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Onta DNP Discussion shapeshifting fagalot 24/9/2011(Sat)07:40:56 No.1013057   
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If Onta comes to u18chan with a DNP request, why not just say "we are not responsible for images and information posted by our users"

Works well enough for 4chan and that was for CP
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cobalt-blaze 24/9/2011(Sat)08:49:20 No.1013065
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i think its because the admins and staff are responsible for not doing anything about it. but its a great idea i think the dick onta needs to realize he is not in control over what people do with their copys once they have a subscription.
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Silver 24/9/2011(Sat)09:09:44 No.1013066
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I'm not going to bother re-posting the comics if they keep getting deleted. If it ever happens that we are secured against them getting deleted, i'll re-upload what I have, but not until then.

It's a waste of my time.
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Furrynomous 24/9/2011(Sat)10:15:51 No.1013068
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Thing is, most sites unless they are hosted in a foreign country. If they do not follow up with the request to remove said content, then Onta or sexyfur etc etc can sue them and win. Thats what happened to one of my favorite furry forums for simple downloading purposes.

They had to create a DNP list to avoid being shut down and sued, but tried to work around it by making the list only viewable by admins. Didn't fly over with the court and the site was shut down.
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Noni 25/9/2011(Sun)07:18:11 No.1013110
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If the few just post all the images and comics, the rest of us don't have to get a sub. Then we're taking away money from Onta, who spent the time to make the images (plus the cost to run the site and majorly host art from him and others). Although I see the frustration of re-posting and not being able to see/get everything from a users point of view, I also see his.
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Mako 25/9/2011(Sun)10:07:21 No.1013130
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>>1013057
The thing that makes 4chan immune is the threads move so fast that the content is gone before a DMCA request can even be processed by the host. When they go to check for the content, it 404's. Smaller boards don't have this luxury.
The most "we are not responsible for the images and information posted by our users" gets you is legal grounds to avoid a successful lawsuit or charges if illegal content is spammed to the board.

>>1013068
Most webhosts comply with DMCA's from the U.S. The countries that don't honor them tend to be to shitty to run a decent site on or incredibly fucking expensive to foreigners.
The only viable option I know of was using TOR, which is slow and comes with a lot of restrictions and requires a separate browser since Tor2Web decided to go full retard and comply with any blacklist request regardless of validity.
The only reason you see other smaller boards getting away with it is they're so small that they fly under the radar. Petichan started getting monitored when we were getting barely half the visitors that we and u18chan get today.

Edited at 25/9/2011(Sun)10:11:49
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Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)10:54:55 No.1013132
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or heres an idea. Stop uploading Hardblush content...if you guys want it so bad go out and buy it. Artists need to eat too you know.
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Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)01:25:25 No.1013150
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Phuc YoooooooooOOOOoooo 25/9/2011(Sun)01:51:43 No.1013163
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>or heres an idea. Stop uploading Hardblush content...if you guys want it so bad go out and buy it. Artists need to eat too you know.

Here's an idea, go fuck yourself! Is this your first time using U18chan or something?
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Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)02:12:17 No.1013164
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Hellhound 25/9/2011(Sun)03:09:14 No.1013169
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>>1013132

Okay, so here's an idea. Give me the ability to pay for the content and I will do so. Oh, Onta only accepts credit cards? Oh, well, too bad for him, guess that means I and lots of others can't pay for his stuff.

Not to mention that I wouldn't even buy the access for Onta's content, but rather for that of other artists who update so infrequently that it's really difficult to see worth in getting access to it.
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Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)03:49:39 No.1013175
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>>1013132
>>1013164
ITT: lol @ whiteknighting
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Bumpity-bumpity-bump... WHOOOOSH! Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)05:14:05 No.1013181
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>>1013164
>>1013132
Oh, I sowwy. Here's sum art so you not be angwy wit me! It reprizents me an you setling differinsiz. I'm the cyborg horsie!
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Onta DNP Discussion 25/9/2011(Sun)05:36:39 No.1013183
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Here's my beef, for the updates/week you get with Hardblush, charging $189 a year for AT MOST 3-5 updates a week is asinine. If he lowered the price to like $60 a year, I would gladly subscribe. I bet if he lowered the price that substantially more would subscribe and with his larger consumer base, he would end up making more money.

Let's do some maths:
Say Onta currently has 100 yearly subscribers at $189/year = $18,900
Say Onta were to lower the price to the price of ONE YEAR OF XBOX LIVE, btw, this would also lower monthly and quarterly prices!: $60, that 100 customers would be happier and more people would be likely to subscribe to the site. I can pretty much guarantee his customer base would increase 300-500%.
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Furrynomous # MOD # 25/9/2011(Sun)06:25:02 No.1013184
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>>1013132
>Artists need to eat too you know.

Onta pays the artists a flat rate for content. If you think subscribing helps them in any way, you are as nieve as people who think buying a signed artist's album supports them.

Onta thinks that buy making sure his content is not available for free, more moochers will buy subscriptions. Let's test that. Who here is now going to buy a subscription to HB?

Also, distributing makes them more well known and lets people see what they're gonna get. I know lots of people who have subscribed to paysites even though the content was available elsewhere. Hell, I have a subscription to ClubStripes, and still only check U-18chan for updates of it.

Edited at 25/9/2011(Sun)06:45:21
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Furrynomous 25/9/2011(Sun)10:42:11 No.1013255
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>>1013184
Yeah, I'm not buying a sub. And honestly if U18 were to take it down I'll do what 95% of the other viewers will and just go to another free site.
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Mako !kIttyUnArM 26/9/2011(Mon)04:44:55 No.1013348
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>>1013255
We have a winner!
First we went to pawsru, then Bartimaeus started sucking up to every artist he could find and giving them mod status.
Then lulz until threads were flooded off the board and Onta went Bernal
Then there was a short period of scattered updates until I pulled them all on to Petichan, which eventually Onta went DMCA crazy on, including false flags after the content had been removed
Then the furry archive
Then u18chan

There will always, ALWAYS be a new site to put in on.
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)05:11:51 No.1013349
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>>1013255

you can also browse for torrents. every once in a while siterips pop up for torrent. just download them and you get them up to date on a more or less regular interval.

it certainly won't go any slower than buying a subscription.

i remember my time when i had a subscription for sexyfur. i still feel cheated to this day.

it took me just a couple short hours to browse their archives and download all the good stuff on my hard drive and then... well...

the next couple of months i was stupid enough to pay 12 or 14 bucks or something just to get one or two picture updated A MONTH!!!

if i was lucky...

with Furaffinity and the artists i watch, i just have to wait a couple of hours and get like 10 updates. with sexyfur, i paid good money and was lucky if i got 1 or 2 updates per month.

so... yeah, i don't feel any remorse or regrets by downloading torrents or pirating that shit.

if these guys want me to buy a subscription, i damn well expect to get something in return and not to have shit dragged out as long as possible to cheat me out of every coin i have.
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)05:51:57 No.1013353
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>Onta pays the artists a flat rate for content. If you think subscribing helps them in any way, you are as nieve as people who think buying a signed artist's album supports them.

This is both true and untrue. If you buy an album does it directly support the artist? Not really. It supports their label who supports the artist. You're not directly helping them but you still are.

Like wise for Hard Blush even if your money isn't going directly to the site it's motivating Onta to keep dealing with shit. I'm not a white knight by no means. I'm all for piracy of any kind. But if you have the money and you love the porn you should pay up to keep it alive. Albums on the other hand this doesn't apply to >_>.
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)06:29:11 No.1013362
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is this shit art or porn? cuz if its art then art is free, yes artists have to eat but any real artist knows that writing a poem isnt gunna put any food in your mouth. if its porn then he can go ahead and charge for it, even tho no sensible person (with an internet connection) would pay for porn however if he wants to call it art and charges people to view his art then that makes him an abomination
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Mako !kIttyUnArM 26/9/2011(Mon)07:00:38 No.1013364
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>>1013353
>it's motivating Onta to keep dealing with shit.
Assuming that's what we want.

Do you honestly think all of the artists who draw for hard blush would suddenly quit the fandom if it went under? Onta's desire to put up with shit is of little concern. Killing napster didn't stop music piracy, trying to kill imageboards won't stop porn piracy.
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cobalt-blaze 26/9/2011(Mon)10:49:36 No.1013377
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heres a solution merge a server agreement. such as storage of site content and archive the shit with omeone who wishes to give ONTA the finger saying no.

id host it if i could LOL but then id need to get enough things set up for it LOL. but maybe someone like me could do so who is in a place where its legal to say fuck you to people like that and that they cant do shit because its my own personal server my content therefore my sharing is like people coming to my house to view cept it would be more wireless. thats just a suggestion that i thought id offer up. does not have a server up and running yet wont for at least another year or so.
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)11:03:29 No.1013379
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I don't get you people...you go to excessive lengths to getting quality porn yet you won't pay for it yourself. Yah Hardblush requires a credit card...what doesn't these days. It's called go out to a store and buy a prepaid 20$ credit card...problem solved. you aren't that poor are you? Cause if you can't even budget like 14 dollars for a 1 month subscription you really shouldn't be spending money on internet. Stop whining just cause you know I'm right lmfao. I'd get pissed like Onta too if my artwork was being leaked by wankers trying to get off for free. Theres tons of other porn to whack off too, settle for that or pay for the good stuff. That's the bottom line. Derr
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Marker 26/9/2011(Mon)11:49:06 No.1013383
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>>1013379
some people don't live in places where these 'prepaid' credit cards are available.
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)01:06:14 No.1013385
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>>1013379

the issue sometimes is not having to pay for porn. i don't mind paying good money for a good porn comic. sometimes the issue is getting ripped off, my friend.

just like my experience with sexyfur... 14$ a month is quite expensive just to get 1 or 2 pictures out of it...

and in all honesty, i'd much rather save those 14$ bucks up so i can commission a good artist myself instead of waiting my time away for just one or two random pictures... that i mgiht end up not liking so much
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Hellhound 26/9/2011(Mon)01:15:50 No.1013389
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>>1013379

These cards don't exist in my country.

Also, I would rather say that those who are leaking the stuff are actually paying for it, otherwise they wouldn't be able to leak it. Derp.
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Mako !kIttyUnArM 26/9/2011(Mon)04:42:29 No.1013416
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>>1013379
>I don't get you people...you go to excessive lengths to getting quality porn yet you won't pay for it yourself.

What's confusing about this? I want to fap, I won't pay for the porn. Even if all the artists went "lawl I kwit nao", there will be new talent to replace my desire for cute girly boys.

>Theres tons of other porn to whack off too, settle for that or pay for the good stuff.
Or I'll pirate the pay stuff and fap to w/e tickles my fancy. Your little false dichotomy of the only good porn is paysite porn is very misguided.
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EtheralLarethe !RrQMHZJ55I # MOD # 26/9/2011(Mon)05:16:09 No.1013423
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq_1Wy70rE

This entire thread. :D

Edited at 26/9/2011(Mon)05:16:51
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Furrynomous 26/9/2011(Mon)05:35:24 No.1013429
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>>1013423
ARRR!!!
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Mako !kIttyUnArM 26/9/2011(Mon)07:35:57 No.1013442
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Disappointed the translation feature does not include pirate talk.
>>1013423
Yarr!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9t65vLJKx4
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Eeden!8.DawUscl6 27/9/2011(Tue)03:20:14 No.1013552
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>>1013423
I laughed so damn hard, thank you so much for that XD

My opinion on this matter: There's always gonna be pirating. Deal with it. Its your decision to pay or pirate it. No one is making you not pay for it
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1013132 Furrynomous 20/10/2011(Thu)02:46:31 No.1018014
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And a beautiful Redheaded woman Named Tessie!
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Furrynomous 20/10/2011(Thu)03:31:19 No.1018018
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>>1018014
jesus, i never thought id see images from that show again, let alone on an imageboard
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)02:16:07 No.1019641
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So does this pink dog have a name?
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)11:44:54 No.1019680
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here how about you guys gain some artistic talent, draw for a living and see how much you like other people taking your art and posting it over the internet for the world to see so you don't get as much money as you would have. put it into perspective that him not wanting people posting his stuff is as strong as your belief that you should be able to post whatever the hell you want regardless of copyright infringement laws.
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)11:49:04 No.1019681
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seriously though for people who whine so much you think you'd be used to Onta by now. Just don't upload his stuff or get a bloody subscription, having your cake and eating it too, thats called being greedy there pals. There's plenty of porn out there so you cant enjoy champagne on a milk budget. Any of these metaphors getting through any thick heads?

Theres a reason Onta won't stop because it's people like you he hates, just like people like him you hate, thus the battle will continue until someone's in court or something is done about it.
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)12:18:31 No.1019684
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>>1019641

I think it's Chase.
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Jay 28/10/2011(Fri)03:39:36 No.1019738
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>>1019680
>>1019681
You can just use the edit button next time. Also, if you try to draw furry porn for a living, you deserve the slow, cold death you will receive the day you finally starve to death. Artists make money off of commissions or by selling prints/original copies to collectors. You do not charge people for art. You can post a picture of the Mona Lisa if you ant to, and it's not copyright infringement. Therefore, Onta is either not an artist, or an insult to the entire art world. You pick.

I'm sure every single person who works for a paysite has a real job, and just do furry porn to make money on the side, and because they enjoy it. Saying he aught to be able to make a living off of it is like saying I should be able to make a living off of playing videogames. Or hell, maybe even running a massive furry porn site with a large community. Just because you do it, doesn't mean you can get payed.
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)05:43:23 No.1019745
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>>1019738

There are plenty of people who make a living playing video games. They are called game testers or QA testers/leads.
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Jay 28/10/2011(Fri)06:52:23 No.1019749
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>>1019745
Lulz you know what I meant. Game testers have to play the same games for weeks and weeks and don't get to choose which ones they play or what parts. They just have to find bugs and recreate them over and over again. I'm talking about playing games you want to for fun. Don't be a smart ass.

Edited at 28/10/2011(Fri)06:53:10
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Furrynomous 28/10/2011(Fri)10:38:40 No.1019803
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>>1019738
i agree. I would never only rely on commissions as a source of income. I would indeed think about it as only getting money on the side.
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cobalt-blaze 28/10/2011(Fri)11:29:33 No.1019812
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>>1019749
he obviously has not heard of in game betting of which you play to win of which case if you lose you lose irl. makes life a little more fun though in that case not as much a gamble as lotto tickets.

Edited at 28/10/2011(Fri)11:30:00
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Furrynomous 29/10/2011(Sat)12:36:27 No.1019817
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>>1019812
like on diablo 3 and the real money auction house that it has?
well when ever it finally comes out

Edited at 29/10/2011(Sat)12:43:47
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cobalt-blaze 29/10/2011(Sat)02:40:02 No.1019832
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>>1019817
naww try stuff like gaylo and CoD MW and MW2 lol those were pretty much where you would see it happen if you looked for it. but never did it since most of the times its paypal related if not among friends when they knew they would be paid via next visit. LOL
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Hibiki.Neko 11/11/2011(Fri)07:48:33 No.1021851
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Furrynomous 13/11/2011(Sun)12:48:00 No.1022189
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hahaha LOL :)
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Furrynomous 16/11/2011(Wed)10:32:54 No.1022807
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If it was like $60 a year, or included access to another good site or two, then sure I'd subscribe. Otherwise, it's seriously expensive.
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Now this... Peachie 12/1/2012(Thu)10:49:18 No.1034265
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Furrynomous 10/7/2012(Tue)05:14:03 No.1078827
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>That Onta irl surrounded by plushies hasn't been posted yet still

step up niggas
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Mr. Smartass; Man of piss 13/7/2012(Fri)12:54:07 No.1079667
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>>1078827
Post it yourself, I've never seen it.
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Wammertodging 13/7/2012(Fri)01:03:36 No.1079670
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>>1079667
It's not even the real Onta.
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Furrynomous 13/7/2012(Fri)01:45:15 No.1079680
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>>1013379
>Quality Porn

Hate to say it and not to slap in the face any paid artists, but there normally is a free artist who's better than any paid artist. Still is the case here.
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Furrynomous 18/8/2012(Sat)11:55:16 No.1087958
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Did the new gay comic from hardblush get taken down, or am I just bad at seeing?
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Virtualfox 19/8/2012(Sun)12:42:32 No.1087967
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>>1087958
Check /cnt/
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Furrynomous 19/8/2012(Sun)02:51:15 No.1087988
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Well shucks.

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