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Bucking the system [Kadath] Furrynomous 2018/06/08 09:30:59 No.1448497   
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Ok, here's what I found for the moment, not too much, but enough for starting the thread. Maybe someone got more
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 09:31:47 No.1448499
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 09:32:11 No.1448500
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 09:32:30 No.1448503
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FurryFan 2018/06/08 13:27:42 No.1448618
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>>1448497

This is just part of the novel. With words, no pictures.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 14:30:52 No.1448628
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I'm sure he'll make art of key scenes as time goes on for patreon, don't see why not, he only gains from doing it.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 14:31:25 No.1448629
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 18:43:39 No.1448696
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>>1448628

So being with Nightshade is actually causing Patrick's dick to shrink over time, eh?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 21:46:39 No.1448745
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>>1448696

God fucking dammit I hate it when artists do this.

They'll retcon a character's big dick into a smaller one because "CUCK CUCK CUCK"

Naylor did it, and now he is too.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 23:15:43 No.1448765
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Pat's been that size for a long time. Way before the cucking stuff.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/08 23:54:17 No.1448786
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Somehow, I'm not surprised, since Kadath lacks a spine himself, and was a cuckhold with NecroDrone years ago.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/09 09:36:45 No.1448950
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>>1448696
>>1448745
>>1448765
>>1448786

Honestly, despite all that, this would not surprise me if this were true.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/09 10:25:16 No.1448960
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>>1448786
What? They were with each other? Can you tell me what happened or point to the place where I can find more? I like furry drama.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/09 10:58:55 No.1448968
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I miss incest patrick
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Furrynomous 2018/06/09 14:47:00 No.1449026
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While I don't judge people for their fetishe (cuck stuff), I wish these artists would create better characters. Because, to be honest, I have yet to see a good cucking character. Especially Nightshade I can't stand, totally cringe-inducing in my eyes.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/09 19:27:50 No.1449153
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>>1448960

Yeah, they were, many moons ago.

>>1449026

This *is* the furry fandom, cringe is expected.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/11 17:26:57 No.1450336
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Furrynomous 2018/06/11 22:25:15 No.1450444
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Wheres this book exactly
Pirate when?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/12 02:34:40 No.1450529
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So, do any of you read the comics about nightshade? Did you read Bucking the system? Night may be a size queen, but she really does love Patrick with all heart. She would never do anything behind Patrick's back, and she would never cheat on him. Pat is the one that brings this to her attention and she won't do it unless he is okay with it. There is tenderness and love in those quiet moments.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/12 02:41:19 No.1450533
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I've read every comic posted, and all the fanart/commissions are non canon. Bucking the system is in a middle ground where if you wanna consider it canon you could, or not. Bucking the system wasn't written by kadath, however, he suggested/added quiet romantic moments between night and pat. Trust me night has more character than what you're seeing. I understand if people don't like this type of relationship, but it's a real thing. Some couples trust each other being with other partners. Nobody get's mad with Puzzle and Diamond have fun with Seb, even though Puz and Di are a couple. The dirty talk Night gives to Pat is Something Pat likes. It's in the book if would like to read it. I just think you should really give nightshade another look.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/12 03:58:56 No.1450549
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Is night doing Anal in that picture? I thought she didn't do anal.
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Dazzy 2018/06/12 04:07:49 No.1450552
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FUCK gimmie morrrreweeeeeehehfhjvjgjsjdb
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Furrynomous 2018/06/12 21:20:51 No.1451058
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>>1450529
>>1450533
I'm that guy
>>1449026
and well, I guess I've read some comics she was starring in, but I can't remember many details, because, honestly, I wasn't paying that much attention.
At the first glance, she seemed to me like a hypocritic, controlling, demanding "edgy" mary sue-type character, which I find quite annoying.
At first, I was mostly indefferent to her, except for short bursts of groaning when a new "ask tumblr"-picture was on e621 or here.
My judgement down the line may quite possibly have been skewed by my initial opinion of her, to be fair.

Maybe I just don't see the appeal in this character. Not for the dominatrix (or even cuckold) stuff, that's fine as it is a fetish. Even though I feel like it crosses a line (for ME) sometimes. More because her character makes me want to slap my face every time she opens her mouth. Idk. Maybe I'm wrong on that. I'll probably just ignore everything with her from now on since lamenting like this achieves a whole lot of nothing.

Edit: I presume that people don't get mad at Puzzle and Diamond having fun with Seb, because, as far as I have seen, it has less of a cuckolding feel to it - the "power dynamics" of the relationship feel different to me. They are depicted as equals, not as one partner domination the other.
Edit2: As you surely have noticed, english isn't my first language. If anything is unintelligible, please let me know and I will try to explain/clarify.

Edited at 2018/06/12 21:35:20
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/06/12 21:53:45 No.1451061
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>>1451058

Nigthshade seems to come off as self-centered, with everything revolving around her and what she gets out of it- everything seems to be to her benefit, regardless of if it makes Patrick jealous or uncomfortable.

At least when it was Patrick and Puzzle, the relationship wasn't one-sided; both characters seemed to genuinely focus on each other rather than themselves.

Also, I'm fairly certain Patrick used to be bigger- certainly not on the level of Sebastian, but at worst only a few inches short.
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still that same dude 2018/06/12 22:07:28 No.1451069
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>>1451061
Yes, I have the same feeling. That is what I meant when I said "demanding" - you hit the nail on the head, though. Downright narcissistic. She also seems to effortlessly have the upper hand in every situation, regardless what it may be - that is why I called her a mary sue. She does not seem to care or be considerate of other peoples feelings, which is a big turn-off for me. I'm a big advocate for caring and compassionate relationships, this is probably also a reason why her character rubs me the wrong way.
I don't care much for some character's dicksize though, to be honest, but it fits the narrative that Patrik is just a cuck now.

Edited at 2018/06/12 22:11:21
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Furrynomous 2018/06/13 00:39:47 No.1451099
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>>1450529

Are you saying you actually read this... thing?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/13 10:21:28 No.1451327
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>>1451061
We had the genuinely intimate relationship between Pat and Puzz replaced by a selfish dominatrix bitch and a shallow walking penis that has his dick growing with each passing appearance. To say it's a downgrade is a gross understatement.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/13 15:42:18 No.1451682
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>>1451099

I read it, first, few chapters are a bit rough to get through she basically cucks Pat over the phone at first and he just imagines whats happening, Then Erza has Pat mess around with the little doe girl in his office while night sucks him off, Then a scene at the gym where Erza tag teams night in front of Pat which a rhino, Then Pat plays alone with Erza and night in their apartment Pat gets hurt making night break from the cuck fantasy and care for him, earlier in the story Pat and night make a safeword for when it's getting too much for him but he forgets it which leads everything going too far for him. That's a very rough explanation of the entire story.
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still that same dude 2018/06/13 20:14:42 No.1451808
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>>1451682
Did this guy lose all his social skills? Why didn't he just downright say "this is too much for me, I forgot the safeword, stop, I'm not kidding" and to prove his point, go away? This whole premise seems... stupid, to be honest.
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still that same dude 2018/06/13 20:20:41 No.1451811
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>>1451099
I'm rather glad that it is not just me thinking about her the way I do (i looked into some comments on e621 as well), genuinely thought that my judgement may be skewed.

Edited at 2018/06/13 20:24:44
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Furrynomous 2018/06/15 04:29:44 No.1452517
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Not spoiling the book, but it was Pat who brought up the idea of Night and Erza. Cuckolding is kinda Pat's thing within reason. Night and Pat have dinner with Erza to discuss what the terms of their relationship will be. Night wouldn't have done anything if Pat didn't like it/want to. which is where the safe word comes in. Pat never forgot the safe word, and he does feel insecure at times (which is normal for someone new to this kink) He doesn't use the safe word even though, before anything happened, Night herself said to use it if it gets too intense, cause that's the last thing she wants to do is hurt him. Nightshade has layers, she may be intimidating but she really does care. Also, Pat's dick never shrank in size, in comments over the years Kadath himself said he kept Pat's dick size around the same length. Pat and Puz hasn't been a thing in years. They weren't even going out. There are early comics of Pat (when he had long hair) with Nightshade. 'Dangerous Bedroom Behavior' is one of those comics, not even including the pinups of the two around that time. Kadath didn't want to go with the bro/sis route anymore and that's where Seb comes in. Puz and Di have been a thing for a long time 'Day in, Day out with Diamond' from way back proves this. I would say just give Nightshade another look.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/15 08:24:26 No.1452582
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>>1452517

His characters are just so two-dimensional. Nightshade is a super bitch until she goes into super nice, heart-of-gold mode. And having a character with just those two extreme positions is fine for a fetish comic but not if you actually want to develop characters with any depth. That's why I hate Kadath's comics, he tries to write these long comics to develop these characters but they're so boring and there's never a reason to actually like them other than as eye-candy.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/15 11:54:26 No.1452645
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Where are you reading this at? Does it have a text story as a rough draft or is it a patreon thing
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Furrynomous 2018/06/15 18:31:26 No.1452809
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Well, first off the comics kadath draws are porn comics, that's the main aspect of the comics. There are character moments there but porn takes priority. I know you can add story, but people come for the porn. When his web comic comes that will be more character driven and less on sex, which should open up more character growth. I remember people getting mad for example when he tried to give puz another emotion besides happy and go lucky. So what do you do? I understand everyone has their own preferences, but you guys only know a little bit about his characters from the porn comics and the pinups (which aren't canon to his series) I say just reserve judgement.
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still that same dude 2018/06/15 23:18:28 No.1452893
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>>1452809
Well, that is the thing - what I have seen so far was offputting. If he'd make generic, throwaway, maybe even unnamed characters for this porn comics, I'd shut up and just fap. (not really tho, dont like his artstyle)
He is obviously trying to establish his few returning characters, so in my opinion "it's just porn" doesnt really fit, as he as the author himself is trying to do more than "just porn" and fails.
I'm always open to have my mind changed, especially when the webcomic will arrive, though.

Edited at 2018/06/15 23:28:27
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Furrynomous 2018/06/16 03:45:02 No.1452977
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>>1452893
For real. Why invest so much time on these characters, constantly writing stories about them and trying to develop them by having them answer all these questions if it's "just porn".

You can't just hide behind that excuse to avoid critique.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/16 04:30:17 No.1453005
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I'm not making excuses, and saying it's just porn. I'm saying that these porn comics focus more on the porn. There are character moments there, but porn is the main focus. When the web comic comes out, you'll see more of the characters. I believe kadath has more variety in his character interactions and nice moments between them from what we seen in his ask pages and what he's said over the years.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/16 10:04:57 No.1453125
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Its amazing and adorable how the fandom has changed.
Back in the day, we just wanted the porn and we were good. Bonus points if the artist drew our favorite Recognizable OCs that they had.
Now, we seem to care WAY more about characters then the porn itself and stop everything to pick apart and analyze a characters 'Character'

Its quite fascinating.
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still that same dude 2018/06/16 10:08:58 No.1453128
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>>1453005
Okay, point given with the porn comic thing. Though, what I have seen from his "miscellaneous" work like this ask-pages was terrible character design as well, imho.
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still that same dude 2018/06/16 10:21:53 No.1453134
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>>1453125
I'm just assuming things here, but maybe people saw that good plot and characters and porn are not self-excluding and now like it so much they apply these standards to every work. At least, this is what happened to me.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/17 11:39:31 No.1453616
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>>1452893
ok... now i'm intrigued...

does anyone have this book?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/21 14:15:24 No.1455381
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>>1448497
does anyone have this book?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/21 15:26:15 No.1455407
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by KennoArkkan
commissioned by Kadath
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Furrynomous 2018/06/21 19:08:12 No.1455498
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I do but it's digital only and they sent it straight to my kindle app so I dk how I would share it
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 05:51:32 No.1455685
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This one shows Pat used to be a fairly large boy.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 08:19:54 No.1455709
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>>1455685
I stand by what I said. These artists retcon and shrink the character's dicks because CUCK
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 08:47:43 No.1455723
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Is it possible to copy and paste it here? Or at least some parts of it? Maybe the action parts?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 09:36:19 No.1455731
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>>1455709
it's possible, or maybe he exaggerated the size of others to fit the cuck theme.

>>1455723
it's 170 pages long, i don't think he post them here.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 13:46:55 No.1455800
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Maybe copy and paste in Word or something similar? Then put it in a folder and make a download link for it? Maybe in Mega or Mediafire or even Drvie?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 13:52:06 No.1455801
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>>1455723
Take screen shots of each page
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 14:24:51 No.1455814
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>>1455731
I think it's just inconsistent, like how his giraffe necks shrunk to normal size, but then got a little longer again. Most of the time Pat's been closer to average, like in this old picture.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 14:31:19 No.1455816
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>>1455801
it might work ... we can OCR the pages back to text format... in theory.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 17:11:36 No.1455867
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>>1455814

>I think it's just inconsistent, like how his giraffe necks shrunk to normal size, but then got a little longer again. Most of the time Pat's been closer to average, like in this old picture.

Don't know how you could tell that from this image, given Nightshade's thighs, crotch, and legs cover his neck. If this is the example you meant to explain what you typed above, this picture is a bad example.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 17:31:53 No.1455897
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>>1455816
Hopefully that works, really hope someone manages to put it here in some way.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 17:50:09 No.1455902
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>>1455867
I was replying to your comment about the penis size shrinking. The dick in that older pic is similar to the cock chart.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/22 19:17:46 No.1455941
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>>1455902

Oh, apologies. Also, I'm not >>1455731.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/24 05:08:38 No.1456552
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>>1455897
Anyone have any luck?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/24 09:24:13 No.1456631
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>>1456552
still waiting ... and looking :(
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Furrynomous 2018/06/25 06:11:06 No.1457136
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Can someone make a detailed summary of what happens in this novel? Like, all the things Nightshade does with whoever and so on.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/25 16:26:23 No.1457366
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kadath is at it again ...
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Furrynomous 2018/06/25 16:29:52 No.1457368
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>>1457366
Oh no its terrible, he drew something lewd with txt and it offends what I like.

Stop posting please if you are going to keep trying to stir trouble. Its fucking porn gtf over it.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/25 17:39:57 No.1457395
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Nightshade most likely took even larger than Sebastian
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Furrynomous 2018/06/25 22:56:13 No.1457498
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>>1457368

I read that as "Another Q&A!"

Why don't you kindly go fuck yourself and let the adults enjoy the content?
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Furrynomous 2018/06/27 11:45:41 No.1458381
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Anything yet?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/01 01:13:07 No.1459989
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Anything new?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/04 00:59:36 No.1461290
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>>1455407
I feel like Kad ONLY ever gets Nightshade commissions. She's not even in his top 5 of best female characters smh
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Furrynomous 2018/07/04 01:44:32 No.1461299
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Can someone explain in detail what exactly happens in the novel? Please?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/04 16:30:46 No.1461569
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>>1461299
It's $3 on amazon. You're obviously interested, so go and buy it and read it.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/07 11:35:06 No.1462991
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I would buy it, but of course you can only buy it live in the us.Sucks if you are in germany.Damn.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/07 11:50:39 No.1463007
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>>1462991

Why would you want to buy any low quality content made by Kadath?

Edited at 2018/07/07 15:07:07
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Furrynomous 2018/07/07 15:55:18 No.1463192
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>>1463007

Yet you are here, posting in a kadath thread. 🤔
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Furrynomous 2018/07/07 20:35:37 No.1463426
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>>1462991
It's sold digitally on Amazon, so I think you can still buy it even if you're in Germany.
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still that same dude 2018/07/07 21:26:17 No.1463438
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>>1463426
I tried; it's not working. (I am from germany and using a german IP.)
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Furrynomous 2018/07/08 05:57:04 No.1463634
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So, anyone find a way to share it?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/08 11:30:31 No.1463790
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>>1463634
Enjoy
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lim9z3bawel5c3z/Bucking%20the%20System%20-%20Dragon%20Cobolt.fb2?dl=0
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Furrynomous 2018/07/08 13:44:50 No.1463827
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>>1463790

i took the liberty of converting it to pdf, thank you for sharing it :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrnp4ept4w67pc6/Bucking-the-System-Dragon-Cobolt.pdf?dl=0
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Furrynomous 2018/07/09 04:45:23 No.1464176
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>>1448497

I've turned into an audio book, and listened to on my way home.

Nadia (aka Night Shade) is the worst Dominatrix ever existed.

not sure if am allowed to spoil but here is how i explain it.

when a doctor is about to operate on a patient he/she explains the goal, the method, and the result of any surgery.

this is what made me feel sick. >_>
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Confused Furrynomous 2018/07/09 05:27:04 No.1464184
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>>1464176

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're explaining. Could you go into more detail?

Edited at 2018/07/09 05:28:25
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Furrynomous 2018/07/09 09:25:20 No.1464222
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>>1464184
all right this is spoilers territory OK?
don't read this if you are planning to check out the book... ok?!
the story in simple terms pat meets ezra (furry elon musk) for an interview, pat is interested in trying cuckolding with him after talking to Nadia (night shade), they have a meeting and agree to try it.
the two things they agree to:
1- there is no limits.
2- a safe word.
Ezra creates this new persona called buck ( the bull in this relationship ), and initiates by giving instructions to pat via the new phone he give to pat.

it starts hard with 'buck' going on a cuck-date ( the bull and wife go out while the husband stay at home ), and then calls him to tell him that he is fucking night ATM in the restaurant bathroom, and then sends pics of her wrecked.
and goes on insulting, and pushing pat with every chance he gets, pat so far is ok because Nadia is happy and he likes the release he gets after he gets cucked.
Sadly pats mentally breaks after he 'participate' in another session, inside the gym showers with two older men ( a rhino and an otter ), after all was said and done pat stays behind in the showers broken as masturbates the shame away (yes... this happened) and goes to Victoria (night shade's boss) for advice, then she tells him that he must talk to Nadia about this.

Nadia was worried sick when pat was late to return home and tells her about how he feels, she starts blaming herself for miscalculating things, but pat explains that it was his fault for not stopping, then he discovers that the events were orchestrated and planned for(this is important), they kiss and make up.
the next chapter they meet buck, he breaks character for a moment, and then the cucking continues while they were shopping at the mall, they break character again when they were in the car (this is also important).

when they got back to their home, everyone got back into character, and continued their game in the bedroom, the sex ends with Nadia calling it off and asking pat to finish her off, because she wants pat, and makes it clear she want him, not his cum, not his cock, but the person.
then sobby good byes.
the book ends with nadia and pat talking about the book he is writing called "bucking the system".

Edited at 2018/07/10 23:07:44
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Furrynomous 2018/07/09 09:51:43 No.1464229
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>>1464222
here is my issues.
Ezra came in swinging when they went out on the cuck-date.
>(WTF is wrong with you?! people test the water not jump head on.)
Nadia AKA night shade never once mentioned to pat that what they did was staged, even when things got crazy like the partner swap at the office, and the gym shower foursome
> (oh dear, a bit too late to mention that, don't you think? it's in the last few chapters).
this is compounded by the fact that pat has no alternate 'persona', let me explain Night shade is Nadia's persona, Buck is Ezra's persona, they acted with it as a play or staged performance, but to pat it was all real(almost), that is why he couldn't handle it and broke down.
>(guys this was supposed to be a private thing between the three of you, also why no one told pat about this?)
Nadia explains that it was irresponsible of her to let Ezra take the lead since he was supposed to stop it if things got out of hand.
>(you think? )
they start breaking character just as pat creates his own persona.
>(oh wow, how considerate of you to remind us it was all roleplay? and at the end of the book?)
Ezra will never meet them again, he is going to space.
>(convenient -_- )

Edited at 2018/07/09 10:18:00
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still that same dude 2018/07/09 13:56:54 No.1464275
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>Nadia AKA night shade never once mentioned to pat that what they did was staged, even when things got crazy like the partner swap at the office, and the gym shower foursome
That'd be the dealbreaker to me; I'd either break up with my partner or be VERY mad. That's just not okay.

Edited at 2018/07/09 13:58:41
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Furrynomous 2018/07/09 15:25:14 No.1464357
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and let me remind you... she is supposed to be a professional dominatrix, and have been living with pat for a long time.

and still with that amount of experience she made a lot of mistakes towards pat.

and they never get out of character after they were done with each session or draw the line of when is the right time ( i know pat said no boundary but no one wants to be humiliated 24/7 , no matter how of a cuck he is), making it muddy for pat to tell if it was staged or not.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/07/09 20:53:29 No.1464446
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>>1464357

You'd think someone with that kind of profession would understand the importance of communication. It's just another story of Pat being used for someone's entertainment; I believe the relationship even less.

If Pat wasn't even expecting a foursome, then somebody made a big damn mistake. That's pretty much cheating, without the cuckolding; even if some wouldn't call it that, it'd at -least- be a breach of trust.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/09 23:26:09 No.1464496
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>>1463790

here is the audio book i made using speech to text.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FntcO5NZYhV4cxVieqHWI7bsNVxk2qg-/view?usp=sharing
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 02:16:06 No.1470775
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Bucking the System suffers from two conflicting needs.

It's too long for pure porn, so the story needs conflict and tension. There's no conflict in a safe roleplay between friends, so the cucking has to feel real. It has to threaten to spiral out of control unless Pat stops it.

But Pat and Nightshade are an established one-true-pairing, so their relationship can't fail, and the story can't ruin either character. Pat can think Nightshade would choose Buck over him, but it can't ever be true. She can't deliberately violate Patrick's boundaries, so the story needs her to misunderstand them.

Miscommunication is rarely a satisfying source of drama, and it's not plausible in this story since Nightshade is supposed to know what she's doing. If Buck were a lying manipulator who told Pat one thing and Nightshade another, or even blackmailed them, it might've worked. But as written, all three characters have the same goal. They're not working at cross purposes. There shouldn't be conflict.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 10:09:01 No.1470860
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are you talking about the same book?

never once she mentioned to pat that all events with Ezra were all 'scripted', until they actually talked it when he went back after the gym foursome.

heck he never met Ezra when he is out of his 'Persona' except when they first, before the agreement, and at the end of the book, for all he knows it was real.

and speaking about the gym foursome, no one thought about checking on Pat before leaving the gym? for a first timer you would at least keep an eye one him, no?

what else... She can't deliberately violate Patrick's boundaries? DUDE! she is a pro, this shouldn't have happened.

if you ask anyone with 'extreme' fetishes, you are supposed to start slow, not jump in.

real cuckold couples start with a three way date (where the cuck, the wife, and the bull have drinks, talk, even flirt), if everything goes well they invite him to bed for a threesome, when the the cuck is comfortable enough he can distance himself (i repeat himself) from the bed (sex), this takes a lot of time just to be clear.

and lastly the deep end, the role play, the bondage, the humiliation, anything the trio wants, trust is established, the cuck is happy, the wife is happy, the bull is happy.

experienced couples, can shorten the time to establish trust, because they know how things work between them, and any bull they want to meet.

now my dear friend... can you point out which of the things i mentioned above ever happened in the book?
(and please don't use 'it's porn argument', this is not a short comic or a 5 min porno, this is a full book, this is the closest thing to diary)
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The Cumback Furrynomous 2018/07/24 14:18:37 No.1470960
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>>1470775

That is still disgusting.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 16:34:02 No.1471009
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>>1470860
She tells him it was all staged when they have their big talk after his freak out. My guess is she figured it heightened the excitement for him not having it all spoiled ahead of time, but it was too much and he panicked and forgot the safeword.

Do doms usually tell a sub every detail of what they are going to do to them, or do they keep things a surprise and rely on the safeword as a safeguard?

Night says is worried she'll get carried away, and part of the thrill to Pat is wondering if she's finding other men more enjoyable. I think that's why she walks off without him and had dinners without him. It's part of the humiliation. He jerks off every time it happens, so it seems to work.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 18:14:06 No.1471061
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so you are telling for someone who lived with their partner long enough to know if their partner can handle the rough stuff, yet she creates outlandish scenarios just to fuck with his head? (considering he is doing it for the first time)

Yes! the Dom tells the sub what is going to happen... if the sub can handle it then it becomes the new norm for them, and must stop whenever someone is not comfortable.

true, this kind of fetish is about pushing the envelope, but this envelope went to the other side of the universe from the very start, shade is pro! the comics reflected her perfectly, she starts easy and pushes little by little.

also May i point out at the beginning Ezra gave Pat a new phone with his contact id Buck (and the dick pic) ... when did he plan this with shade?! they just met?!

at the start i thought Buck was a persona created by Ezra and night, but no... this is the asshole side of him that he uses on people he didn't like, meaning that he had to hate pat (or at least pretend).

another thing... there is no breaks... as in "today we are having a typical boring day", Night takes Jabs at her mate while Buck is not around, they were have a nice sweet breakfast and then the conversation evolves into "look at this ring Buck bought for me", what is going on here?!.

the only part that made sence were the ending chapters when they went to the mall, Pat knows, Ezra knows, Night know ... that this is all just a sexy scenario, and no one is getting hurt, so they had fun with it, even the forced gayness felt alright to pat.

finally Ezra going to space is a bullshit excuse to remove him from future stories.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 20:30:43 No.1471102
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This... this book actually made me feel awful for pat 'x'


I actually like pat and nightshade as a couple, and this seemed like a good way of ruining their relationship had they not talked to each other.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/07/25 08:21:23 No.1471312
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>>1471102

If this story is how Kadath actually sees Nightshade and Patrick, then I feel comfortable saying Night is a selfish, unlikable cunt.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 09:01:14 No.1471327
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>>1471312
this reminds me... did Kadath actually read the book?
I mean... there are plot elements that came from 'ask puzzle and friends' and the comic 'talk dirty'... but the book feels more like a spin off rather than part of the series.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 14:14:31 No.1471862
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you know what time it is?

Time for a RE-write!

CHAPTER 4

***


“ There was no turning back. Had I opened Pandora’s box? Let the genie out of the bottle? I was about to find out.”

***


Buck opened the door without so much as a knock or a ring of the bell. He strode in, looking like he fucking owned the place. His suit was perfectly creased, a dark red tie wrapped around his broad neck, and his antlers only adding to the effect as he stepped next to the sofa that was laid out before the TV. He looked down at Pat, and Pat saw his rich green eyes flick from Pat's ossicones to his crotch. A cheerful sneer crossed Buck's face and he nodded his head, muttering under his breath. "I hope you are ready..."


The door to the back opened and Nightshade emerged, looking utterly divine in that slinky black dress, her breasts sagging slightly against the filmy black fabric that clung to her – making her look both clothed and nude all at once. A purse was looped around one shoulder, and she had even gone all out adorned herself in jewelry. A gold-chained necklace with a green emerald rested just above her ample cleavage, and a trio of golden bangles rested on both wrists, jangling softly as she reached up to caress her earrings. Her ears flipped up excitedly as she looked at Buck, who walked over to her, held her by her hand, and kissed it.


The kiss that Pat have giving to give her on their first date- a fierce, passionate kiss, Buck's hands found its way around Night's hips, assured that she'd let him. And she did more than let him. She ground back against him, her eyes going hooded, they whispered compliments at each other, expressing their amazement to each other's attire.


"Ready to have some dinner, my lovely Nightshade?" Buck murmured, cupping her cheek, his thumb caressing her muzzle gently. Her tongue darted out, licking the tip of his thumb. But she wasn't tasting him, as she often did with Pat. That implied a kind of dominant, predatory edge. Rather, she was licking his thumb as if it was the tip of his dick, her eyes shining with a submissive glow that Pat had never seen before.


"You can't believe how much, Mr. Maes” she said.


"Just call me Buck, now, I believe you said the Rose Garden was a favorite of yours," Buck said, grinning. "ready pat?” he asked.


"W-Wait, I thought we are doing it here, righ-" Pat started, but Buck cut him off. "I have pulled some favors, it will be just us and some waiters serving us, and our little won't be the same without you," Buck said . "if things played out well, we might some fun on the spot," he said sliding his hand down cupping himself. Night needed absolutely no encouragement to cup and fondle Buck's cock through his pants. She looked at Pat and nodded at him. Buck smirked, then turned to the door, as Pat fallowed unsure of how the night would pan out.


they got to his car, and drove to the restaurant, along the way Pat squirmed in his seat imagining about what buck had planned for them when they head back to their apartment, but from his own experience, it's is most likely that Nadia would take the lead and forces them to indulge her games.

A few minutes later they parked outside the Rose Garden, Nightshade and Pat held hands as they walk in to the newly furnished Rose Garden, the valet took the keys while Buck lead the way in as they were ushered in by an Equine waiter.

he seated them in the VIP section, surrounded by wooden separators, then showed Buck a bottle of wine to which he nodded his head in approval.

"I have been informed that this is a private meeting, the cooks and staff will be available while serving, after the serving the staff will leave as you requested, but if you need any beverages, it will be available on a cart next to you, security are outside if you require any assistance," the waiter explained as he pour into their glasses.

Buck nodded and waved the waiter away, "my friends, I have a nasty habit of attracting unwanted attention, this is the only I could enjoy a night out without any parasite fallowing me around" Buck said.

"Parasites? you mean journalist?" Pat asked.

"hardly, they are just a bunch of rabid Paparazzi looking to score a big scandal" Buck explained.

the waiter came back with their dinner, "I took the liberty of ordering for us ahead of time, just in case," Buck said as he began serving the vegetable soup, "when you are ready for the main course, just call me sir," the waiter said taking his place beside the kitchen door.

pat was about to speak but he was cut off again, "not now, we'll talk after the main course when the staff leaves," Buck whispered gesturing at their waiter, Pat and Nightshade nodded in unison as having their soup. as they were done Buck motion to the waiter to bring the main course, the waiter nodded and made his way to the kitchen and brought out the main course.

he place a large bowl of salad in the middle of the table, it was feast to the eyes with every color presented, then placed a thick piece of stake with garnish and sauce in front of Nightshade, "will that be everything, sir?" he asked.

"yes, you are excused for the night" Buck replied.

"but, sir we haven't finished our service, there is dessert and beverages to be served" Equine waiter protested.

"I am aware of that but as you have noticed, my guests aren't feeling comfortable talking about their, delicate matters in public" he said.

"apologies sir, do you wish to skip dessert?" he asked.

"Hmmm... can you have them wrapped up to take with us?" Buck suggested.

"certainly sir, I'll bring you the beverage cart right away" he said.

a few moments later the waiter retunes with a cart and a security guard, "sir, we will be leaving now, if you have any concerns our head of security will be honored to help" he said as the guard nodded and made his out.

"finally!" Buck sighed in relief.

"do you always make plans like this?" pat asked.

"sometimes, but only for my special guests," Buck replied.

"So do you what do have planned for us" Nightshade asked intertwining her fingers.

"So far, dine, wine, and maybe we finish up at your place," he said.

"sounds good to me, have you ever done this before?" Pat asked.

"Yes, and no, I told before I've fucked my bullies girlfriends, one of them even watched, but someone offering the chance to do so, that's a first" Buck chuckled.

"Oh you have much to learn, young grasshopper" Nightshade said, trying to fake an accent.

"whoa, so mistress nightshade wants to teach me a few tricks?" he said, amused by her charade.

"well, I have some scenarios that we can try out," she said with a predatory grin on her face, Buck was surprised yet curious to know what she was thinking of, but pat knew or the very least he has a vague idea.

"So? like what?" Buck asked trying dig out more details from her, but she only shook her head and began digging into her stake. Buck sighed in defeat and then look at Patrick as he was putting some salad on his plate, "what about you? any other kinks you wish to report" he asked.

Pat paused and scratched his head, he crossed his arms remembering back on things he wished he could try, "a while back I had a thing for partner swapping, there is this story about a guy catching his wife with another man, so he has his revenge by telling and fucking that man's wife in front of them" Pat said.

"oh! oh! I know that movie, uh... I forgot it's name, it's on the tip of my tongue..." Nightshade jumped in enthusiastically .

"wow, that's twisted. but i like the concept" Buck said.

they continued eating, and talking about their old misadventures, and happy memories, share a laugh, a smile, or a kiss, both men showered her with compliments of her beauty and grace, but the night has to come to an end, and this date to grand finale.

Nightshade stood up and told them "I heading to the ladies room" she said, then leaned and whispered into Buck's ear , they both examined her swaying hip as she walked away, Pat found it weird that she would announce her intentions this.

"Hey Pat, i'm going to the men's room, I want you to count to 60 then meet me there" he said as he stood up and made his way to the men's room.

Pat sat there dumbfounded, yet willing to cooperate, as he began counting the gears in his head began turning, which concluded in realizing what is actually happening, but he had instructions, and he is almost there.

58

59

60

he stood up and made his way to the men's room, he want to rush his step but didn't want to attract any attention from the guards, as he found himself in front of the men's room he looked and check if anyone is around before entering.

"took you hiss long enough, we decided to warm up before you come," said Buck resting his back against the wall, while Nightshade was kneeling in front of him sucking his cock, Buck groaned with ever pass she made on his enormous length.

"sorry, I was checking that no one was behind me" pat said, as he blushed madly.

"then you better close the door, just in case" he said bobbing her head, as he continued to savor her bliss, "your lady hiss knows her way" he said .
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|M|S| Furrynomous 2018/07/28 04:00:34 No.1472459
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Furrynomous 2018/07/28 04:43:11 No.1472469
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|M|S| Furrynomous 2018/07/28 04:55:53 No.1472472
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>>1472469

http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=%5EThis+definition
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 10:24:12 No.1473483
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Here’s a sketchcomm for https://twitter.com/ghostbane
Kurt (top left), Terrence (top right), Nightshade (middle), Chase (bottom left) and Patrick (bottom right) © http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kadath/
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 22:46:29 No.1473699
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>>1448497
Wait a minute, so according to this thread this guy is basically furry Elon Musk and he was shot out into space? I am getting fucking Poochie flashbacks from that description!
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Furrynomous 2018/07/31 01:14:47 No.1473729
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i think the idea here is to write him out of the canon, along with the characters associated with him (like his secretary), yes it did happen but it doesn't affect future events. think of it as the commission works about Nightshade.

she mentions that 'trained' people in the past, but she doesn't specifically state who, so any future commission can be lotted to either people who tried cuckolding with them, or people trained under Nightshade.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 20:08:43 No.1480448
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So does anyone have a download for it?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 22:14:46 No.1480508
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here
>>1463790
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>>1463827
.pdf
>>1464496
text to speech audio book.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/13 02:40:21 No.1516888
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Anyone have the new book "London Calling"?
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Furrynomous 2020/02/25 20:04:19 No.1717802
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Looks like it's time to reignite this old flame with Kad's newer edition of it: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/35180844/
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Furrynomous 2020/02/25 20:05:30 No.1717804
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Is reselling the same product but with an extra scene or something like that? If so that sounds a bit scummy...
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Furrynomous 2020/02/25 20:19:24 No.1717808
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>>1717804
Movie studios, game developers, record labels, and even app developers have been doing that kind of shit for literal decades. If you're going to get upset at Kadath and the author of that book for doing it but ignore DVD special editions and album reissues with bonus tracks and game remasters with new content and shit like that, your problem is something other than the practice itself.

Are you really so desperate to dunk on Kadath - on any furry artist, really - that you'll ignore literally *decades* of major corporations doing the same thing you're accusing him of doing to make a mediocre point?
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Furrynomous 2020/02/26 02:55:15 No.1717918
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>>1717808
i'm willing to give it a second reading, but i'm not buying it again.
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Furrynomous 2020/02/26 03:38:12 No.1717925
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If anyone bought it again can you say what's different/new from the older version? Are there any images in the digital version this time? Is it even worth rebuying it?
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Furrynomous 2020/02/26 14:48:34 No.1718090
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>>1717925
Via Kadath's Twitter:

>The new edition includes a collection of new interior illustrations depicting the wild, sexy events of the book. Sadly, Amazon does not allow the interior illustrations for the book, so I will be uploading them on my patreon. They are included in the print edition, though!

>>1717918
Nobody said you had to.
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Furrynomous 2020/02/27 17:34:48 No.1718481
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So did anyone buy the new version?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/01 10:39:17 No.1719530
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Did Kad include any pics in the revised version of this thing?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/01 13:50:16 No.1719596
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not on amazon version, but the hard copy does have that.

he posted the interior pics on his patreon.
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Furrynomous 2020/03/01 16:11:34 No.1719652
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Anyone have those new pics?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/05 08:24:56 No.1721048
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"The interior illustrations are now up on my patreon! There are 8 interior illustrations total.

https://patreon.com/Kadath"

From Kadath's Twitter
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>>1721048
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>>1721048
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>>1721048
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Furrynomous 2020/03/05 08:36:10 No.1721058
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>>1721048
i have a feeling they've been cropped... anyone has the images from patreon?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/05 09:43:18 No.1721075
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Yeah I got you
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Yeah I got you
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Furrynomous 2020/03/05 11:42:52 No.1721111
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>>1721075
thanks you :3
from the looks of it there is another encounter/extended scene with the rhino from the gym.

in the story the rhino only showed up twice. at the gym, and at the mall for a quick Cameo .
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Furrynomous 2020/03/06 08:39:08 No.1721413
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Kind of retarded that almost none of the pictures include Erza fucking Nightshade
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Furrynomous 2020/03/06 16:00:25 No.1721702
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Furrynomous 2020/03/07 18:37:00 No.1722096
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Does anyone have the new digital version of this? if so can it be shared with a download link or is that not possible due to the format?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/11 01:37:00 No.1723287
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Anyone willing to post a pdf format of the new version?

Edited at 2020/03/11 01:37:11
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Furrynomous 2020/03/26 00:27:24 No.1729406
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Is the new edit a better read than the original? Anyone wanna write a review or something for what's changed? Any critiques?
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Furrynomous 2020/07/27 12:26:53 No.1790341
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any one have the new " Fine Dining " story?
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Furrynomous 2020/07/27 14:34:47 No.1790416
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Its in Lit as it has no pictures.

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