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Midsummer Nights [Kadath] UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/07/24 21:33:14 No.1471124   
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New, less colored comic from Kadath
Edited at 2018/07/24 21:34:36
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Midsummer Nights UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/07/24 21:33:16 No.1471125
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Midsummer Nights UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/07/24 21:33:17 No.1471126
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 21:46:15 No.1471131
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i already feel my fucking heart breaking....
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 22:18:04 No.1471141
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jesus christ, kadath reaches incredibly high garbage levels of cuck that shouldnt even be possible.
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Furrynomous # MOD # 2018/07/24 22:33:03 No.1471146
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>>1471141

Dunno, that guy looks the same guy from this one:

>>1333007

So, if it's another commission, it's not canon, and just some garbage a cucking fetishist payed to Kadath to draw
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Furrynomous 2018/07/24 23:23:20 No.1471166
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Wait is he the same dude from that older comic night moves?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 01:41:15 No.1471217
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i'll hold my judgment until i see where this is going...

but i might have an idea where this is going, yes cucking inbound, but it's nightshade pegging the other guy and pat watches... (theory)

or... oh no... nightshade planned this from the start...
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 01:54:26 No.1471221
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My cringe levels are already rising.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 02:01:43 No.1471225
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>>1471146
yes it's the same guy...

but i'm curious ... where did these come from?... it's not posted on FA :/
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 02:35:50 No.1471232
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Why do people even care about Kadath's cuck fetish? Also, can anyone explain to me why they are so salty about it too? It just doesn't make sense to me. If you hate cucking then why even bother watching it specifically? Let alone spamming hate comments all around about how shit of a fetish it is
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 02:41:34 No.1471235
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>>1471232
actually i enjoy this kind of thing... but the way it's done disturbs me >_>
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 03:03:49 No.1471248
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>>1471232
>>1471235

Because back when it was more of him and his sister, Patrick and Puzzle, the comics were honestly a lot better in that regard.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 03:37:15 No.1471256
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>>1471232
I dont care for the fetish, just the execution, which is, let's be honest, far from perfect.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 05:49:38 No.1471285
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Oh boy it's another "Nightshade acts like a domineering cunt while Patrick indulges her" episode
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 17:15:57 No.1471495
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>>1471248
He hasn't drawn them together in forever. Also, you're saying that incest is better than cuckolding?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 17:23:26 No.1471499
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>>1471495
Not him, but yes. Incest is a better fetish
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/07/25 17:54:27 No.1471516
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>>1471495
At least with Puzzle, the relationship seemed genuine and mutual.

With Night, everything seems to revolve around making Pat as uncomfortable as possible. The fact that Kadath enjoyed the shitshow that was Bucking the System suggests (at least to me) that he doesn't understand a healthy cuckolding relationship in the first place.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 22:31:28 No.1471579
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>>1471516

Considering that he was with Necrodrone all those years, I'm not surprised that he's fucked in the head.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/25 23:39:31 No.1471594
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>>1471232

Cause it's funny. Duh.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 04:46:41 No.1471657
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>>1471146
So, if it's another commission, it's not canon

If Kadath was willing to take cash to make it, he can't care enough to make it 'non-canon'. It's a bit hard to have 'principles' if you're willing to make characters a couple for instance, then whore them out to whoever throws money your way, regardless of their status.

I mean it seems Kadath cares more about Nightshade not taking a cock up her ass, then he does about guys fucking her whether Pat is around or not...
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 05:41:04 No.1471692
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I'll give it a fair chance and judge the story once it's complete, but at the moment my hopes aren't too high.

Let's see if we can get some life into this plot or if it'll flatline entirely.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 07:11:45 No.1471717
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Im surprised why so many people care and even go as far as to get super salty about what happens to between two furry erotic character drawings. As someone else here pointed out, it is pretty funny, but only cuz its so incredibly pathetic how so many guys get triggered from seeing an unreal, extremely sub, soy boi giraffe, get constantly cucked by his thrill seeking, bad bitch, super dom jackal girlfriend (who's also just a furry drawn character). I guess most of the guys getting mega salty about these cuck fetish stories see themselvs as the cuck and just cant help but get salty. Either that or they just want to come accross as super mega macho men acting disgusted by this weak cuck shit (but in the end chances are they are mega cucks themselvs. Nuff said)
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 09:55:40 No.1471787
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I just thought their relationship in Dangerous Bedroom Behavior was cute, sucks how it turned out now
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 10:25:04 No.1471802
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>>1471657
What the fuck are you on about
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 15:43:03 No.1471904
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>>1471657

>If he accepted money for it it's canon

So by your logic, everyone that fucked Renamon, Krystal, or other furry sex symbols are canonical in their universe?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 15:55:17 No.1471907
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>>1471904
i don't know how to describe it... but i think you can call it referential cannon.

think of it this way, Nightshade said a few times that she 'trained' a few people but didn't specifically say who, because their existence in Night's story is just a reference, and has no weight to the plot.

like the story of Garry who sells hot dogs, who got killed in infinity war (Just hypothetical example), does he has an epic story? maybe... but the movie is not about him.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 16:53:54 No.1471922
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>>1471495
Abso-fucking-lutely was the Patrick/Puzzle relationship better than this, incest and all. Which should tell you how toxic Nightshade is.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 17:31:22 No.1471931
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>>1471787
You mean the one where she bit and clawed the shit out of him and scared the bejesus out of him? This cucking shit's tame by comparison.

It's funny seeing the rose-tinted glasses people have about Kadath's older comics. You'd rather see Pat fuck his sister and get the shit clawed out of him by his girlfriend rather than see him jack it while she fucks another dude. Fucking hilarious.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 18:47:17 No.1471953
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Everyone has different tastes and opinions. Can we just leave it at that, stop insulting eachother's preferences and stop criticizing others on what they like? I mean it's just porn, why waste time arguing what you think is better and so on?
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 18:50:21 No.1471954
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>>1471931
Fucking duh I'd rather see him fuck his sister, that relationship wasn't near as cocked up and I like incest. Lordy.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/26 19:32:48 No.1471959
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>>1471904
>So by your logic, everyone that fucked Renamon, Krystal, or other furry sex symbols are canonical in their universe?

By that logic are you saying whoever draws Renamon, Krystal and co instantly own them?

Kadath created Nightshade. He's her intellectual owner. Same with Max Blackrabbit and Zigzag. Anything he draws her doing is as close to 'canon' as you're going to get from fictional characters. Doesn't matter if some guy paid him, if he accepted the money, he accepted the idea.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 10:37:20 No.1472151
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>>1471959
>Anything he draws her doing is as close to 'canon' as you're going to get from fictional characters.

The artist gets to decide what is and is not canon for their own characters. You display a sizeable amount of hubris when you all but say you get to decide that distinction for the artist.
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UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/07/27 11:03:02 No.1472158
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 12:39:36 No.1472192
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>>1472158
sigh... Pat knows where this is going... and he wants it.

we are done here.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 16:43:17 No.1472309
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>>1472192
You mean a cuckolding comic is going to have cuckolding in it? Say it ain't so!

All you whiners really grow tiresome. Just don't read it if you hate it so much.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 17:49:07 No.1472323
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This is going to have a completely different vibe to that book Kadath wrote though. Joshua if I remember correctly is not a super alpha male like buck. He is a fairly submissive guy who hired her as a mistress way back before she met pat. ORRR I'm completely off base
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 17:59:50 No.1472328
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Patrick must be disguised as a giraffe.

Since he clearly has no spine.

Edited at 2018/07/27 18:01:25
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Furrynomous 2018/07/27 19:37:28 No.1472348
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>>1472309
that's nice hon.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/28 03:31:09 No.1472455
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>>1472309
what i meant is nightshade didn't plan this, Josh had no malicious intentions, and Pat is ok with the potential of having a cuckold scenario with him.

so most of my reason to be uncomfortable, are gone.
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|M|S| Furrynomous 2018/07/28 04:02:43 No.1472460
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>>1472455

Still doesn't make Nightshade less of a manipulative cunt and the writing in this mini-comic any less autistic.

Edited at 2018/07/28 04:02:59
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Furrynomous 2018/07/28 05:32:05 No.1472484
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You know legitimately complaining about things like cuckolding is probably why all of you are still bitterly single.
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|M|S| Furrynomous 2018/07/29 07:50:06 No.1473056
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>>1472484

Not all of us, my guy. Some of us are upset that Patrick traded down instead of up.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/29 09:25:27 No.1473069
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>>1473056
One of these days Pat would snap and cheats on her, but I doubt that would happen... he isn't the type to hurt anyone he care about.
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|M|S| Furrynomous 2018/07/29 12:12:04 No.1473122
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>>1473069

Especially with how weak-willed he is.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/29 22:05:25 No.1473284
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>>1473069

See, I don't want to be too autistic about this, but I find it extremely hard to believe anyone willing to be cucked by their "loved" one even loves them at all.

It seems to be less of a case of love and more of a case of "In order to fulfill my sexual fantasy I need to value this person" I have a very hard time thinking anyone willing to engage in cuckoldry actually and in fact "loves" their partner. I cant see any way that actual romantic love and cuckoldry can exist in the same relationship.

But maybe I'm wrong.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/29 22:16:27 No.1473291
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>>1473284

Some people are cucks because they need proof that they'll be loved despite their inability to provide something. They expect to be abandoned and only by literally being cheated on and then not subsequently abandoned, can they believe they wont be.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/29 23:59:09 No.1473320
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>>1473284
>>1473291
ok, time to clear a few things... cuckolding is a fetish like any other, it's not for everyone and not the same way, and like any other fetish you have to talk with your partner about it, think of it as boxing... both guys in the ring must agree to it or else one of them is committing a crime.
when i say not the same way, i mean there are flavors of it, some only accept if they are watching the whole thing, some let their partners go on 'dates', some even engages with the Bulls, but let me remind you again it's a two way street, if one gets to have fun then the other is allowed to do the same.

yes, people are willing to do things in the name of love, but they shouldn't be blackmailed by it, no on should give up their well being and harm themselves, that is not how relationships work.

No... people are not cucks because they need proof, it's because they enjoy it, the same way some couples enjoy threesomes, orgies, swinging, swapping, they have some openness in their relationship that helps them deal with Jealousy.

lastly Don't look at the book as an example of how it works, it's not guide for you to fallow, and always talk with your partner.

Edited at 2018/07/30 00:02:08
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 02:07:21 No.1473353
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Furry logic. SMH.

Incest? Nice!

Borderline cub not even in the right section? Great!

Animalistic dicks! Sure!

Cheating! Fuck yeah!

Cuckolding fetish? REEEEE!

Edited at 2018/07/30 02:09:47
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:04:18 No.1473376
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>>1473353

more like.
Incest? pfft it's just porn! *fap*

Borderline cub not even in the right section? pfft it's just porn! *fap*

Animalistic dicks! pfft it's just porn! *fap*

Cheating! pfft it's just porn! *fap*

Kadath writing about cuckolding? um... why did the story get serious all of the sudden :/
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:11:18 No.1473378
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>>1473320

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Fetishes aren't rational, nobody chooses to have a foot fetish so strong that they can't get off in the absence of some foot play... But there are people in that situation.

Some people like cucking without the reason being it's fun and they enjoy it. Just like some people acquire a taste for being beaten and smacked around. What part of vore, as another example, do you think people "like" especially since prey can't really have any practical experience?

Fetishes can be a shackle and a sexual dysfunction that strike people rather than are selected willfully by people. Just like sexual orientation.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:28:23 No.1473385
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>people trying to rationalize crappy porn characters that are balacing on the edge of being 1 or 2 dimensional.

-Girraffe girl is you're typical busty as fuck shy girl
-black dog girl is your typical alternative freak
-girraffe dude is typical insecure acting author self insert.
-every other male character is also just another version of author stand-in, he's cucking himself with his own fantasies anyway. Get the fuck over yourselves
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:36:56 No.1473389
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>>1473378
you are correct, but i was referring to the "acting based on it", you can have a fetish for water sports... but that is something not everyone should experiment.

People enjoy their fetishes because an aspect of it turns them on, could be voyeurism, humiliation, bi-curiosity.

using your argument, if Fetishes are like orientations, then it shouldn't be shackled down, but encouraged to be explored it safely, and like orientations ... it doesn't dictate your lifestyle, you choose your lifestyle the way you want to live.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:39:58 No.1473390
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>>1473385
i wouldn't be bother by it if it was another porno.

but overly written to the point it's uncomfortable to read.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/30 03:52:52 No.1473396
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>>1473385
remember "call me daddy" on the gay board?
in the first chapter, there a guy and his boyfriend and they visit the boyfriend's parents, then later that night they have a threesome (guy, boyfriend, boyfriend's dad).
everyone enjoyed that and loved it.

but then the guy goes to the kitchen and discovers that the Mom knows about her husband's affair with her son.
everyone was like 'wtf', that was a dark twist.

it was fun when it was a just porno, but when porno started leaking in realism it got really uncomfortable.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 03:51:09 No.1474157
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Anyone who's legit bothered, offended or even cares so much about Kadath's cuck fetish (or anyone else's for that matter) has serious inferiority problems and should seek professional help. At this point, they're all proving to be even bigger cucks than the guy getting cucked (who is a fictional 2D personal btw)
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 04:10:27 No.1474165
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>>1474157
please refer to this :P
>>1473376

Edited at 2018/08/01 04:12:02
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 05:44:52 No.1474179
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>>1474157

Not everyone. Nice blanket statement, friend. How closeminded of you.

>>1473390

^This.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 06:25:50 No.1474189
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Part of mean thinks it might be a number of factors as to why some people might get offended by the fetish even if it’s just fantasy (I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a fan). It could: hit too close to home, make others who are fond of the character feel upset if said character is disrespected, poor execution, or might clash with the viewers own morals or views. Personally, cuck stuff feels off putting because of my own feelings on betrayal and such. This being one of the reasons i turned away from Jay Naylor (among other reasons), and I actually kinda like Patrick, he’s one of the few characters kadath does that I don’t have much of an issue with.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 07:58:08 No.1474215
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>>1474157
yeah nah, that's not how it works. it's about the execution (writing, characters, story etc), not the fetish itself.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 17:37:57 No.1474405
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>>1474189
Understandable, but at the end of the day this IS actually still just a porn fetish like any other and no matter how much people try and make it that Kadath's stuff is more than just porn, its not, its just an overly glorified type but still just smut giving people the ilussion that its a deeper ( through characters, story, events etc) but thats all just the false top flavor till you get to the smut. And people who treat Kadath's porn (or any porn for that matter) need to get a grip and accept the fact that its just a fucking smut drawing. (Wich you can easily just ignore rather than complain)
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 17:42:01 No.1474410
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>>1474157
Can you please explain how critiquing bad characters and bad writing equates to having an inferiority complex? Are you projecting?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 18:50:04 No.1474437
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>>1474410
Nice moving the goalposts
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Furrynomous 2018/08/01 20:46:12 No.1474493
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>>1474437
So no explanation is able to be given.

Edited at 2018/08/01 20:46:44
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UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/08/01 22:43:21 No.1474527
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 00:27:44 No.1474567
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>>1474410
Can you please explain how critiquing bad characters and bad writing equates to having an inferiority complex?

Maybe he can, but I can't. I see both as indications of self respect, or at the very least, a sense of perspective. Not everything is good, and so why should we pretend otherwise?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 01:21:42 No.1474576
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>>1474405
>You can't critique porn
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 01:32:43 No.1474581
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>>1474567
i mentioned before to differentiate the comics based on the fact if it's just porn or not.

like 'The Neighbor's Wife' and 'Daddy's Little Secrets', both had issues but one had major problems.

the first had a simple premise, a cheating wife invites her neighbor over for a BBQ ... and 'things' happen.

Daddy's Little Secrets on the other hand tried to tell a big story and a big twist... and then 'things' happen, but we cut back to the story.

guess which one made people uncomfortable :P

it's rare to find comic that has a good fap and a decent story...

Edited at 2018/08/02 01:33:36
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 02:52:58 No.1474611
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>>1474581
I would say the issue with 'Daddy's Little Secret' was that it was a cub-not-cub incest story. That was what crossed the line for a lot of people.

People here only seem to really like porn comics if they have the plot equivalent of the pizza delivery guy set up. Just some scene setting for context, and then full on porn. Some light characterization, maybe. I find that boring.

Personally, I like some character development, plot elements or what have you. It makes me grow fond of the characters and their particular kinks, so I know what I'm getting into whenever I see them return. I'm not saying I want a story as in depth as War and Peace with the porn, but I want to feel some kind of investment in the characters, too.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 03:30:41 No.1474625
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>>1474611
i think meesh does that, 'Little buddy' comes to mind...

Kadath can do a lot awesome stuff, when he had taken his time to develop it on his own...

'Dirty Talk' was interesting in that regard (the concept of experimenting between couples), but the book (bucking the system) was a let down... yeah it had 'hotness', but when it went back to the narrative it whiplashes from jumping between tone, it's Jarring.

it's like putting real people in pornographic situations, then you try to justify but it only makes it worse.

Eg. hypothetically... Pizza guy scenario, the 'girl' fucks the Pizza guy because she is poor (basically whoring herself for Pizza), or because he just broke off with someone recently (a desperate rebound fuck), yes these scenarios may seem logical now but it's uncomfortable to look at, do you see what i mean.

Kadath would have done better, if he wrote it himself, i bet he would love the idea of how real couples explore and push their boundaries, if he chose that path.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 03:35:49 No.1474627
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>>1474576
People who actually spend time criticising furry porn should really rethink their lives. It's about as funny and silly as it is sad>>1474576
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 03:37:25 No.1474628
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Kadath don't give a shite anyway, what's the point in complaining? Jokes on yall
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 04:29:08 No.1474633
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>>1474628
>>1474627

It matters so little, you had to make a post complaining about complainers.

Anons who get butthurt in their artist's defence are the best.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 05:00:29 No.1474638
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>>1474633
And Anons acknowledging them are even better c:
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 05:18:58 No.1474641
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>>1474633
Artist's defence? Has he done something wrong or commited a crime? Why does he need any defence?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 05:21:26 No.1474643
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The last page does help the overall feel of the storyline. It’s less ‘playful nonconsensual’ and more ‘kinky couple’ to me now, simply because the guy is showing initiative and willingness. But we’ll see how it progresses.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 05:50:58 No.1474652
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Um maybe Pat needs to get angry to get an erection just like Bruce needs to get angry to become Hulk.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 05:57:37 No.1474655
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>>1474627
Know what's even more funny and sad?

Someone insisting that people shouldn't discuss and critique porn on a chan DEDICATED to porn. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 06:15:52 No.1474661
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>>1474655
Someone needs a hug...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 06:24:45 No.1474666
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>>1474655
It's one thing discussing porn and completely another getting salty and complaining/bitching about almost every aspect of a smut story. What people say in every kadath thread is far beyond simple critique. There's a difference between giving constructive criticism to an artist and just straight up complaining like cucked punk. Also this site is in no way meant for giving constructive criticism to any artist, its just a place where trolls hang out, making fun of salty idiots and lurking for some free smut. Or just whining like insecure babies for completely silly reasons
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 17:19:28 No.1474846
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>>1474666
It happens whenever a cuckolding comic shows up. Zaush, Meesh, Naylor, Kadath.. any of them do a cuckolding comic, people lose their minds. It's a theme that really unnerves insecure people.

What's funny is all of those artists have explored far more problematic territory in their work. Zaush has drawn cheating, incest and 'cub-not-cub' stuff. Meesh frequently draws hypnosis/dubious consent and watersports. Naylor draws lots of cheating, incest and watersports. Kadath has drawn incest. All of these artists have also done cuckolding works, which seems to be the breaking point for people here. They don't mind the cheating housewife getting fucked and peed on by her brother, but if her hubby's present and shamefully faps to it, that's crossing the line.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 18:14:11 No.1474863
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>>1474846
Zaush has been called out on his "borderline" Chris Hansen (and incest) more than enough; the discussion about the hypnosis comic of Meeesh was very heated, at least just as "bad" as this one, and Naylor is also critisized a lot for his cheating and pseudo-intellectual gibberish. The only time people call debaters "cucks, insecure etc" when it is about cuckolding, though. I don't understand your point - every time people see a weird and/or outlandish fetish and the execution is bad, people critisize it (and complain). That is okay, imho.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 18:30:39 No.1474871
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>>1474666
Except a good deal of the posts in here are, one way or another, discussing and explaining why they think the relationship/act/the depiction thereof in this comic is lacking in their eyes, and with people who think otherwise. It's very disingenuous of you to imply that there is no dialogue occurring in here and that everyone is just saying
>FUCK PAT FOR BEING A CUCK
In fact, I'd go so far as to say the -only- people in here that truly seem to have their panties in a twist are the posters upset over others having a negative opinion of the comic.
Does the thought-provoking, deep and introspective posting of what amounts to little more than
>Hahaha you guys are arguing over a furry porn comic you are such sad fucking fucks and probably cucks yourselves ahahaha
sound like the product of someone not buttflustered?

Also, welcome to U18chan. And chan culture in general. No one is obligated to abide by the maxim of not saying anything unless it's something positive.

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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 18:39:47 No.1474881
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>>1474871
It's fine to criticize something, but it's another when a poster gets so upset they go and rewrite the story, like that guy on the Bucking the System thread did. That's getting into obsessive territory there.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 18:39:56 No.1474882
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>>1474846
I'm guessing you actually weren't there for the threads on Meesh's hypnosis stint. Or Zaush's incest-cuckolding-it'stotallynotcubguys bender. Or...well, any Jay Naylor thread, really. If you genuinely think it's only cuckolding threads that get put through the wringer for their respective gimmicks, perhaps you should be directing some of those insecurity accusations towards yourself, because that's quite the victim complex you have going on.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 18:43:47 No.1474883
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>>1474881
Well bully for him then, I don't see how that means everyone in the thread who doesn't care for the comic doesn't have anything valid to say and should just not post anything. This is hardly the first rewrite to happen either, for that matter. Take, for example, Adam Wan's "Daddy's Little Secrets," which ALSO featured incest-cuckolding-it'stotallynotcupguys, generated heated discussion, and saw a fan-rewrite to make it more tasteful to some readers.
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UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/08/02 20:09:19 No.1474907
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Furrynomous 2018/08/02 23:50:57 No.1474968
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>>1474907

Good lord, the autist writing continues.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/03 09:34:20 No.1475104
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Seeing most of the people getting offended in this thread for a porn fetish is always good for a laugh. (And if you're wondering, yes, this comic just that. A fetish, no matter how much anyone tries to justify or unjustify it, its still at the end of the day just furry porn. Always has, is and will be.)
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Furrynomous 2018/08/03 09:39:01 No.1475106
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Can someone explain to me whats the use of complaining about it on this site? Does it even change anything? I doubt Kadath looks at these threads and even if he does it doesnt seem to affect him. So what's the point in complaining if it does nothing? Or even critiquing something if the artist doesnt see it? It looks more like a waste of time from an objective standpoint
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Furrynomous 2018/08/03 11:56:14 No.1475135
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>>1474907
>>1475104
>>1474968
this doesn't bug as much as before... i guess Kedath became aware he is making a porno...

let's hope he doesn't turn this into a soap opera >_>
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Furrynomous 2018/08/03 16:00:22 No.1475208
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>>1475106
Same as people in book clubs meeting every month to discuss and "critique" books, just for amusement and exchange of ideas. It's fun.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/03 18:48:45 No.1475253
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>>1475106
>stop talking about this furry comic on a chan that's dedicated to furry comics
Fascinating
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Furrynomous 2018/08/04 17:47:02 No.1475712
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time for fucks
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Furrynomous 2018/08/08 03:41:58 No.1477221
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Has this updated again yet? Pages seemed to be coming out pretty fast
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Furrynomous 2018/08/08 14:12:56 No.1477340
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i think page 7 is out...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 00:39:34 No.1478609
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Page 8 too
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 09:37:41 No.1478803
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 10:07:32 No.1478814
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>>1478808
i'm gonna take a wild guess here...

Pat goes to buy condoms... Pat returns to discover they already started fucking... and it's too late to stop it... he cums in her... Pat is worried that she might get pregnant, she explains that she can't because of a reason she didn't mention before -most likely she is on pills or something- and she only asked for rubber to get Pat in the humiliated state of mind to make him cum...

Ps. i'm guessing here based on how the Book handled their relationship, i have no idea what will happen.

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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 12:24:56 No.1478942
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ok im deathly curious as to what the reaction would be if Night gets pregnant because she fucks around repeatedly, like lets say the condom breaks. What would go through Pat's mind or how would he handle it?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 12:33:33 No.1478946
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>>1478942
she fucked around in her past ... like a lot! but i imagine she can't get pregnant (maybe she is impotent).

that is why she is in a relationship with pat... because getting pregnant doesn't concern her.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 12:51:22 No.1478948
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 13:23:10 No.1478967
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This comic seems to update pretty often.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/11 20:12:55 No.1479069
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>>1478967

This mostly just cleaned up line work, no color or super details so he can probably do it a lot quicker.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/12 11:19:33 No.1479245
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>>1471256
It's far from perfect because it's too close to reality for you guys. Yes, this is how people feel when in these sorts of relationships, it's not all sunshine and rainbows on the feelings for everyone involved.

Does this come off awkward in the comic? Yes. Why? Because it is an awkward fucking situation to begin with that normal thinking people don't willingly put themselves in.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/12 18:01:22 No.1479353
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>>1479245

This isn't a novel, its jerk material. It's awkward and uncomfortable because that's what Kadath gets off too.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/13 19:43:29 No.1479992
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Anyone know if the next page is available?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/13 19:45:20 No.1479994
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Anyone know if the next page is available?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 00:21:09 No.1480115
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>>1479245

You speak for everyone in the cuckolding community? At least it's consensual unlike cheating. Most cucks are more secure than the furries here whining about other people's harmless fetish. Normal people. Yeah normal people don't wank to dog people like you either. What's the point? Not normal porn can be hot af.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 18:02:47 No.1480355
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>>1480115

I think the issue is that cuckolding, even if consensual, is pathetic and ugly in nature, being a cuck shows weakness, that your spineless and that you spouse takes advantage of you and doesn't truly love you or even respect you.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 18:24:15 No.1480365
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This is getting hot
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 18:27:37 No.1480368
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>>1480355
Way to completely miss the point.
Cuckolding in real life should always be consensual of course, it's no kink to be dabbled in lightly. It takes a lot of trust. If it's not consensual, then it's essentially cheating, and yes, that does imply a lack of love and/or respect.
And a relationship that involves cuckolding is not gonna always be perfect, far from it. I don't think anyone believes that. And for what it's worth I don't think Kadath is portraying a very healthy or practical version of cuckolding here myself; you're right, real people don't put themselves in situations like what's happening in this comic. But that's besides the point, and it doesn't mean it can't be explored in a more healthy manner in reality.

Plus, spineless? Being taken advantage of? If someone is actually making cuckolding work in their relationsip then that shows they've had enough spine to discuss it with their partner, and prevented themselves from being taken advantage of by essentially 'weaponising' the concept of infidelity, turning into a kink that both partners can enjoy.

Sounds like you're just projecting your insecurities about it.

Also, fix those "your"s and "you"s. It doesn't help your argument.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 18:47:07 No.1480375
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Yea don't you guys see? Letting someone else fuck your GF and prepping the bull is an act of courage.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 18:50:46 No.1480376
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>>1480368
I think it's a pathetic attempt, justify the author (Kadath).

about this shit comic
Okay, it's official: the plot of Kadath's comic really fucked up... big time. Personally, what do I see here? This cunt-lady-jackal wanted to have fuck with another guy, while it makes me jealous of she's boyfriend. Damn, i don't fucking know, what place Kadath thinking (dick of ass probobly), but in real life this would cause rather aggressive-catastrophic consequences, in their relationship. Jealousy is a dangerous thing, and if Kadath does not understand this or does not want to understand - it does not do him credit\\honor (as well as his characters).
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 19:01:47 No.1480383
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All you 'tough guys' on this site laughing at fictional cucks are just as pathetic as the cucks themselvs if not more so. Just showing that you care about their cuck fetish makes you all even bigger and more insecure cucks than the real ones in the first place. No one cares how much of an alpha male you are and yet you big alpha guys care about someone else's insecure fetish, yea you are definetly not insecure at all guys
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 19:03:24 No.1480384
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>>1480368

Cucking dosent seem healthy at all, period, a cucking relationship is more unusual and almost perverse and warp version of what a relationship should be.

And no matter how you put it's still sounds spineless and pathetic, the thought of agreeing to have your spouse being fucked by another man. It shows that your not willing to stand your ground, that your not husband material and if they are going to doing why are they in a relationship in the first place.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 19:08:04 No.1480387
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>>1480383
We are the ones insecure? You are defending cuckolding, that shows that your either a beta cuck, or a scumbag.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 19:43:35 No.1480437
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Anybody seen Boogie Nights?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 20:41:31 No.1480459
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>>1480384
Or maybe it means that they find it hot to watch their SO fuck other people. Sexuality is complex. There's a fetish for everything. This one in particular seems to make people who aren't into it super defensive and judgmental. They just have to have their say, which makes them come off as insecure. And it isn't just Kadath's comics. It's everyone who draws this content.

I notice that the other comic Kadath has going, the one with Sebastian, Puzzle and Diamond, doesn't have the same kind of reaction, even though it's about a couple having a third party come into their bedroom. I'm guessing because it's a girl/girl couple having a guy join in that people are fine with it. The reader places himself in Sebastian's place, and is thinking he's getting lucky fucking two girls.

But with the Patrick and Nightshade comics, Pat is the narrator, so he's the self-insert. He's submissive and gets embarrassed and humiliated, which is also a part of the fetish. And look how that gets received.

In Meesh's Liquid Courage comic, the jock guy is cheating on his girlfriend by fucking his dalmatian buddy, but since the main character is the dalmatian, nobody here minded, and the girlfriend was treated like an afterthought. Wouldn't that be an even worse scenario because the guy is cheating, and his girlfriend isn't consenting to it? And the reader self-insert is the dalmatian, who is basically a huge shithead for doing that, but we're supposed to identify with it? Ah, but like in that Sebastian comic, the reader self-insert is getting more ass than he normally would, therefore nobody complains.

People only get riled up if a guy is turned on watching his girl fuck another guy, being denied, even temporarily. If the fetish isn't for you, move along.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 22:18:46 No.1480516
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>>1480343
huh... i'm actually surprised that it took a different route than i expected...
>>1478814
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Furrynomous 2018/08/14 22:20:41 No.1480523
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>>1473320

Same. I expected she would be fucking the guy without a condom by now.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 00:01:43 No.1480662
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>>1480368
if you actually have to rely on another man to make your wife sexually satisfied then the relationship is inherently unhealthy, as there are more problems that come with that than just "oh no she's having a guy fucking her"

life isn't like a fucking story where the guy just lives with that fact and is okay with it, and I seriously doubt that wives who fuck other men stay faithful to their husband when it's not "consensual" as you put it.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 00:21:01 No.1480675
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>>1480662
Except this is a story. It's a fictional one, and doesn't appear to be going in the negative, destructive direction you're suggesting it would.

You seem really upset. Maybe take a break from the board for a while.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 01:04:04 No.1480684
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Honestly I could say this way is a negative way of going about this situation.
Tmk with cucking generally all three tend to get to know each other for a good while and generally will all have sex together to get everyone used to it all, then having the cuck back off when they are comfortable with it.

Far as I can tell this is all being skipped outside some talking and she basically hopped on his dick as soon as Pat was out of the room, which while in the context of the characters being an OTP means nothing will really come of it but is likely not something that would go over too well from the little I have heard. Feels like it's taken too far too fast sometimes.
And considering Bucking the System happened it can make ya feel a bit apprehensive.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 01:17:44 No.1480687
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Your first mistake is assuming people are insecure, that's at best an educated guess and at worse a projection of your own feelings.

You see, people dislike cuckholdry for the same reasons people dislike watersports and scat. For these fetishes to work, someone needs to let them happen. Key word is "Let". I see piss coming, I move. She saw piss coming, she stayed. She has the fetish, I don't. Its part of the submissive role that some don't care for. You have to let it happen to you, when getting cucked and that doesn't work for some characters like Patrick whom several comics ago was dominant and promiscuous. Kathath does what alot of artists/writers, not just furry ones, "fuck up" with cuckholdry is that it leads to really stupid dialogue and scenarios where things could have been easily avoided but did not because the author/artist purposefuly made these characters LET it happen to for this stupid fetish to occur.

People would still complain if this whole comic was just Nightshade taking a dump after burrito night and kadath drew everything in the toilet. Sure maybe it was a commission, sure people could easily avoid reading some literal shit comics, yeah there is no point in trying to pooh pooh someone's fetish just because we think its weird, but its still a shame that these somewhat popular characters and decent art are wasted on really bad and contrived porn. Again, this is not strictly a furry thing, a lot of people make the same complaint against porn stars doing cuckholdry or "blacked" stuff because its making you sit through more bad story on top of the usual porn story which is pretty bad to begin with.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 01:21:16 No.1480689
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>>1480684
in comparison with the book this is tame... and pat is taking a proactive role...

so yeah so far i'm cool with.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 04:01:58 No.1480720
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Wasn't it established that Nightshade is only doing all this cucking shit because Pat wants her to? Im pretty sure she only does it cuz he developed this cuck fetish and she wanned to make him happy. (Even doe Pat is pretty much a massive beta not only to other males but to Nightshade as well as she constantly is the one on top). So if anyone should be pissed here it should prolly be at Pat for turning from relatively strong male character into a complete softie beta cuck. At least Nightshade is trying to give him what he wants and make him happy. So its not really a case of cheating or him being unable to satisfy her (he more than can as shown previously) its just that he is too much of a cuck now to please her himself or hes just bored of regular old vanilla sex (wich is understandable)
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 04:13:24 No.1480723
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>>1480387
Another lnsecure cuck lel.
Im not defending cucks, i think they are pretty pathetic but losers like you are even more so for getting offended on someone else's behalf. If you dont like dont watch. No one care if you are an alpha or a beta (doe guys like you cant be called anything near alpha after getting offended by fictional cucks) A normal ''alpha'' guy would just shrug off this cuck fetish and either not care or just move along and ignore it
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 04:16:48 No.1480724
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>>1480720
True, but let me clear one thing... There is a deference between having a fetish and turning into a life style...

Pat (here) is in the camp of trying it every once in a while... While in the book nightshade turned it into a life style for pat (without his permission and communicating with him properly).
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 11:29:53 No.1480907
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Pretty sure Kadath has stated that in his universe only closely related species can reproduce and since Nightshade and Josh are both canine there's a risk of pregnancy.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 20:51:53 No.1481041
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Im really not sure I agree with Pat not being able to be dominant. In one of the earlier comics while Nightshade was on top most of the sex Pat had actively taken control after a point and flipped on top of her pushing her to climax pretty easily. He was perfectly capable of being as dominant as she tends to be.

On that note when exactly did the cucking part of their relationship start, anyway? The first few comics I saw of them didn't really have any hints of that but later ones I saw had them cemented as the dom and the cuck duo which had confused me as I am still kind of unaware of when that was established.

Honestly with the book there are so many issues with how things were handled there that it's really headache inducing how it was OK'd. From what I heard Kadath had them put in more moments between Pat and Nadia, so at one point it was even worse with their relationship, which is just baffling.

The fetish and lifestyle point is also something that not so much bothers me but kind of makes their dynamic somewhat boring to me sometimes now though. Outside of the Q&A pages I don't believe we see much of their relationship outside the fetish from what I can tell any more. Every story focuses almost entirely on it, even when they are alone.

Like I don't mind Josh coming back into the picture for some cucking or maybe a threesome or something but from the first page it was looking like a rare glimpse into a nice romantic vacation for them which I can't deny I am sad is another cucking session instead. *shrugs*
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 21:09:17 No.1481044
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>>1480459
The Puzzle/Diamond/Sebastian comic establishes mutual affection between the characters, and doesn't humiliate any of them. What do the genders have to do with it?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/15 22:00:55 No.1481050
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Cucking comic has the guy being a beta male. News at 11.

Also, Pat and Night are clearly affectionate towards each other, or are we not reading the same comic? Plus Night was really affectionate with Joshua in the Nightly Tutor comic. She ran into her old flame and they changed rooming plans so they can have a threesome. I don't see what's the big deal here.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/08/16 11:30:53 No.1481223
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>>1481050
>She ran into her old flame and they changed rooming plans so they can have a threesome. I don't see what's the big deal here.

... The fact that they clearly -aren't- having a threesome?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/16 16:06:15 No.1481299
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Furrynomous 2018/08/16 23:43:30 No.1481423
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>>1481050
>>1481223
More to the point it wouldn't be a cuck story if there was a threesome, hence some of the disappointment. In order for it to work as a cuck story, Patrick has to do nothing. He could watch with his dick out but then it would be voyeurism. No, for a fucking cuck story to work, he has to sit there for stupid reasons and do absolutely nothing.
I want to enjoy seeing Nightshade getting dicked, but i get distracted by Patrick in the same page doing fuck all and looking stupid.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/17 05:34:32 No.1481493
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>>1481299
if the condom breaks its gonna be really tough to continue reading this comic. the comic has just been weird and kinda cringey up to this point but that would push it into "not ok" territory.

i dunno why i see it going that way but i do, maybe its coz of the "dick to big" trope you see in some furry porn
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Furrynomous 2018/08/17 14:15:47 No.1481673
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>>1481493

Almost like some weird Chekhov's condom: "If in the first act you have the guy put a condom on, then in the following one it should break. Otherwise don't put it on."
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Furrynomous 2018/08/18 00:32:54 No.1481881
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>>1471232
You realize this is a collaborated series between Kadath and some beta who's been consistently pushing Nightshade on everyone else for the past year to further his own Night obsession, right?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/18 22:50:17 No.1482514
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>>1481881
lol holy shit really, who?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 01:06:43 No.1482538
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>>1482514
REALLY???! you didn't know?

it's this guy
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/ghostbane/
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 08:24:58 No.1482646
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>>1481881
>>1482538
If he is responsible for the other works with nightshade as well, it would explain the decline in writing.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 09:58:09 No.1482686
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>>1482646
nah... he is responsible for the things that feature 'Joshua'... and some side art
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 12:41:51 No.1482752
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>>1482646
Doubt it. Probably just another bog-standard "guy with money to burn commissions tons of artists to draw his OC fucking their characters."
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 14:28:42 No.1482779
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>>1481881
As much as I'd like to believe that Kadath's nosedive is the result of an aspie with way too much money, I'm more or less convinced the trainwreck is because he found a new fetish and is going full ham with it.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/19 22:46:39 No.1483019
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do people that hate cucking also hate BDSM, threesomes, or infidelity
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/08/20 01:51:05 No.1483086
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>>1483019

No. You're talking about 4 different kinds of fetishes, none of which are dependent on the other.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/20 08:12:44 No.1483167
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Any new pages?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/20 08:54:28 No.1483179
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>>1483167
no updates on his patreon...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/21 14:59:45 No.1483793
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>>1482646
Yeah, he seems unhealthily obsessed with Nightshade and got 2 commission series of her. Imagine spending thousands of dollars for the 3rd best Kad OC. Guess this is what happens when someone has a lot of money and basic tastes.

>>1482779
Not a coincidence everything gets boring and declines when Nightshade occupies the grand majority of the spotlight. Most overrated character ever, IMO.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/21 15:41:28 No.1483814
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>>1483793
Naw, this isn't a Puzzle comic.

Also for disliking Nightshade so much, you spend a lot of time here.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/21 19:07:46 No.1483864
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Furrynomous 2018/08/22 00:26:27 No.1483959
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>>1483814
What do you even mean by that first sentence?

By the way, I don't dislike Nightshade at all, I just feel like she's lost her luster over the last 2 years because of how much attention she gets. She's good, but very overrated.
Also, I can't stand her fans; they're annoying, obsessive, and delusional.

Edited at 2018/08/22 01:08:31
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Furrynomous 2018/08/22 01:35:30 No.1483986
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>>1483864
I'm starting to notice a pattern... 'You squeezed me out' ...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/22 02:36:30 No.1484000
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>>1483959
I was trying to joke that Puzzle is the 3rd best character that fans spend thousands on, but I don't know how to do specific quote replies, so it wasn't clear. My bad.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/22 16:03:35 No.1484246
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>>1484000
Puzzle is statistically the best Kadath character, so that can only be a joke anyways. And trust me, no one has spent thousands on her since 2015, because they're nowhere close to as savagely obsessive as Night fans.

Edited at 2018/08/22 16:07:00
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Furrynomous 2018/08/22 19:58:05 No.1484385
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>>1483986

Hah, I just thought the same thing
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Furrynomous 2018/08/23 17:10:17 No.1484667
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Furrynomous 2018/08/23 20:03:55 No.1484721
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so kadath is talking about size difference, yet makes a habit of making everyone bigger then him? (I.e below the belt.)
physical size he is barely even taller then her.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 04:16:34 No.1484877
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Im....kind of confused by this last page. Pat isn't really all that much bigger than her. Even then one of the first times they had sex had pretty much this exact scenario play out with Pat on top and her clawing into him as he did her. Afterward her being worried that she had hurt him.

Where would this worry about hurting her even come from? He should know she is more than capable of taking it. Is the pre cucking part of their relationship just forgotten at this point or retconned or something?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 06:31:55 No.1484900
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It's pathetic ego feed for the commissioner. Just like the rest of it.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 06:59:08 No.1484907
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>>1484877
Im....kind of confused by this last page. Pat isn't really all that much bigger than her. Even then one of the first times they had sex had pretty much this exact scenario play out with Pat on top and her clawing into him as he did her. Afterward her being worried that she had hurt him.

Notice how, despite what Kadath defenders are saying, there's a cucking thread in Furries general without any of the 'bitching'?

It's because as you've noticed, most people aren't made at cucking, it's that it's been shoehorned into Patrick and Nightshade relationship, who were established before this...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 17:19:13 No.1485117
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i miss the times when Kadath said he wasn't really a BDSM artist and wasn't all that good at it. nowadays Nightshade's increasing exposure has brought dozens of basic BDSM betas into his following.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 19:20:07 No.1485139
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Im more mad at the fact that Pat isn't tapping Puzzle anymore
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Furrynomous 2018/08/24 19:45:11 No.1485143
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>>1485117

What exactly does BDSM have to do with this?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/25 00:41:16 No.1485228
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>>1485143
because the BDSM and femdom crowd are the ones demanding more Nightshade, to the point of getting entire commission series with her
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Furrynomous 2018/08/25 20:33:48 No.1485534
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>>1485228
Then maybe Puzzle and Patrick shippers should put their money where their mouth is and commission an image series.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/26 06:13:46 No.1485695
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>>1485534

That's /if/ Kadath would even do it. Considering Kadath retconned weak-willed Patrick and cuntface Nightshade together, with Patrick and Puzzle never having have been together at all. I doubt Kadath would at this point. Kadath seems content with expression their poly fetish and cucking fetish while still being shit at drawing faces all these years later and writing stories like a 7th grader.

Edited at 2018/08/26 06:16:50
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Furrynomous 2018/08/27 17:28:27 No.1486282
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>>1485534
you realize not everything is black and white where people either just want Night or Puz with Patrick? i just think Night is overrated and doesn't warrant the constant attention she gets

Puzzle is objectively better but has gotten 1/3 of the attention Night gets /shrug
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 10:00:59 No.1486711
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Any new updates?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 18:12:11 No.1486892
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 18:27:16 No.1486898
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huh...ok seriously, is this even a "relationship" between these two? it seems to JUST be a fetish and nothing more than that. I think kadath should just stick to drawing and stay as far away as possible from writing or trying to give characters "personalities"
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 18:33:55 No.1486901
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>>1486898
Insert classic "Nobody is forcing you to read shit you're not even supposed to have access to in the first place. If you don't like it, go write your own comic."
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 20:34:47 No.1486945
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Is every goddamned fucking comic from Kad just going to be Patrick watching Nightshade getting plowed by some wonder-Chad from now on? Is Puzzle only around to take in freakishly long saluki dick every quarter year or so? Does Diamond just not exist anymore?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/28 23:35:23 No.1487016
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In before Night pulls the condom off and tells him to pump a load into her, which would be hot.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 00:22:58 No.1487401
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This honestly just seems....mean spirited at this point to me. Like Im generally on board with this fetish for the most part but I wanted to smack both Nightshade and Joshua in that last pic. :/
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 01:02:46 No.1487413
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I'm not really familiar with the cucking fetish, but shouldn't you clear beforehand if humiliating and/or insulting is fine and within the bounds? I always thought this fetish needed high amounts of trust and carefulness to be executed without hurting anyone, especially settling before what is ok and what is not.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 01:53:24 No.1487421
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>>1487413
Tmk you generally do need to have some guidelines set up and a good sense of familiarity. Like from what I hear in addition to getting to know the person through talking couples would have threesomes with the other person so they are all comfortable with the situation, after which the cuck would choose when to back off and let the others do their thing. Along with having a safeword and discussing what limits there are.

This, like the book, just seems to completely skip several steps.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 09:02:48 No.1487548
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>>1487421
I'm >>1487413
If they skipped these pages for convenience, e.g. establishing that they know each other (intimately) and whatnot in the exposition, it'd feel less akward in my opinion, because it'd be just 3 people going on a vacation doing their fetish. This, however, feels awkward and kind of stilted.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 11:05:32 No.1487575
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>>1487548
>>1487421
you are both correct, Couples who engage in cuckolding setup rules on how things happen.

the comic and the book have different vibes to it.
the book seem to be written by an outsider (someone believes that he knows what the fetish is about)...

while the comic makes the assumption that we (the readers) know know every detail about their relationship, so it's possible that Kadath skipped the rules establishing, safe word picking, boundary lining, because he assumes that we know.

but there is a problem with that, Pat and Nadia are new at this fetish, so they don't have a standard rule book laid out between them.

it is possible the Nadia gave Josh a crash course about the rules when pat was out, but i doubt she would explain that while enjoying the 'oral warm up'.

so basically plot hole everywhere...
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 11:19:22 No.1487580
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>>1487421
continuation>>
for example

remember these guys?
I know exactly how Jack and violet's relationship used to be.
i know their boundaries, how they react... because 'pnkng' took his time building their 'lore'.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 13:18:29 No.1487771
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>>1486898
he's been an all around shit artist since day one. why are you just discovering this now?
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 17:16:53 No.1487828
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 17:43:54 No.1487836
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>>1487828
first of all Ty for posting.

second Damn it Kadath! >_<'
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 19:02:32 No.1487866
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This is seeming more and more mean spirited as pages go by :/
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 19:18:50 No.1487867
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>>1487575
Which for me is partly why I am getting annoyed with Nightshade a bit despite liking her a lot.
Important things about how this relationship works are left out(I also dislike that a lot of their early relationship seems to have been just retconned out but I digress) so it feels more mean spirited, stilted, and disconnected.

Outside of being told they really really love each other and the fact that they are considered an OTP means they will be with each other it feels like this relationship is entirely one sided any more with any love between the actual couple being an afterthought after Nightshade getting to essentially fuck whoever she wants with Pat feeling hurt and humiliated.

Even just having a page or two showing Nightshade explaining some boundaries to Joshua along with what Pat enjoys from the kink would have helped since it would show that she is doing this for his sake to help make him feel good, but she is just shown being more than happy to be with someone else and hurt Pat with no real discussion or safewords.
Honestly the last page could be passed off as netorare pretty easily.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/30 20:21:08 No.1487885
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You have to wonder if Nightshade even remotely likes Pat at all, with comics like this. He's pretty much reduced to being nothing more than a cucking outlet for her.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/08/31 01:14:57 No.1487985
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>>1487867

Shit, at least with Jay Naylor, Persia lets Flounce cum and actually does it herself. There's a problem when -Jay Naylor- does cucking better.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/31 04:03:49 No.1488021
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>>1487885
sometimes i question Kadath's understanding of the fetish?

hearing about his history make me feel sad for him if this what happened to him, and worse if this is how he gets off.

guys... i think we should make him a rule book / guide in cuckolding.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/31 14:21:56 No.1488305
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I'm getting real sick of this guy and his conquest fetish.
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Furrynomous 2018/08/31 18:26:45 No.1488435
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>>1487867
The reason she is doing this is cuz Pat wants that, he's into cucking, she knows it, he knows it, plain and simple. It's not as complicated as you guys make it out to be. She knows exactly what Pat likes and that's why she goes extreme with the cucking, there's no reason to show them explain any boundaries since it would just be a waste of time and writing before they got to the lewed parts. Also Im pretty sure it was established that Night doesn't get off on the cuck fetish as much as everyone here thinks, I mean she obviously does get off of fucking other men (even in front of Pat) since her job is literally being a stripper and a dom at the Safari Club, and Pat is completely aware and accepting of her job so there's nothing wrong with their relationship at this point in time since she enjoys what she does and her job and Pat loves her and doesnt have much of a problem with her fucking other dudes, besides it pretty clearly shown in every cuck story by kadath that Pat enjoys the cuck fetish about 3 times more than Nightshade does, she does enjoy it too (prolly from the thrill) but nowhere near as much as Pat does, thats for sure. (The is kinda obsessed with cucking... and it shows thats why Night does it for him if an opportunity comes on him)
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Furrynomous 2018/08/31 21:49:11 No.1488503
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>>1488435
I (>>1487548) was almost exclusively talking about the third guy, who is behaving in a way that is not really acceptable if you have no information on the rules and boundaries, not Nightshade. Who also made some mistakes in the book which were kind of rookie mistakes as far as I understood.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 01:40:47 No.1488581
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Everyone seems to think this *isn't* netorare, as opposed to some sort of cleanly practiced "cuckoldry" in some manner similar to BDSM.
I don't even think there's a difference in the author's eyes, or in the eyes of plenty of people (even those who enjoy it). It's meant to be an agonizing, nonconsentual, act that dehumanizes and emotionally tortures the cuckold. This is a *feature* for many, not a flaw.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 04:11:50 No.1488617
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I do wonder if the guy through enough money at Kadath to do a condom break pregnancy scare or raw dog second round. Kadath has done some in the past but that was before his no interspecies rule, I'm sure you could pay him enough it's not canon anyway.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 13:30:51 No.1488793
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Honestly even if Nightshade is entirely and completely aware of Pat's boundaries(which going by the book Im honestly wary of in the first place. <_<), Joshua isn't.

Beyond that it's also an old sex friend she is obviously super friendly with that Pat had no idea existed until recently.

Given that honestly I think there is more reason for boundaries and the like to be discussed as this can easily go in a bad direction. Especially because as seen Joshua is openly mocking Pat at this point too, which is a dickheaded thing to do if he isn't actually aware of what he is allowed around a person who is more than likely not entirely comfortable with him yet.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 13:58:53 No.1488816
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I am fine with everything that has happened, except one thing. Joshua is only there by Pat’s good graces. He knew Nightshade would have fun so he told her he could stay. It just bothers me that this is suppose to be Pat and Nightshade’s get away and Joshua is going to be such a dick and brag about breeding his girlfriend. It just seems very mean to someone you don’t know who is allowing you to be there.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 15:54:47 No.1488968
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What do you expect from a dude who commissioned an image series of him losing his virginity to her, and not only being a natural, but by being taught how to be a sexual titan?

Wish fulfillment fantasy usually comes from insecurity and narcissism, but I think we can already tell that from his "character" of "derp I didn't read dates correctly, but now I get to sex the lady now!".

So cringy and sad at the same time. But he is a well hung muscular blue fox alpha, so he will beat us with his e-penis if he found out about this thread. Or he would be embarrassed and cancel this like that one edgy red dog character creator did.

Edited at 2018/09/01 15:55:11
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 02:07:32 No.1489180
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Lel so many salty cucks on here. If you guys are so pissed at Kadath why dont you tell that to him straight instead of acting like lil bitches mingling around in these threads like lil cucks whining about the shit he makes?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 02:31:33 No.1489183
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/09/02 06:31:21 No.1489258
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>>1489180

Interesting you should mention that, since I pretty much did in his recent "here's a creampie that may or may not have your sister's lover's cum in it; bon appetite, bitch" image; I pointed out that Nightshade seems to get off on Pat being uncomfortable, he rarely gets to fuck his "girlfriend", and that the entire "relationship" doesn't seem believable, even for cucks.

Moreover, he actually responded.

His reply was essentially saying that people were taking the joke too seriously, and that Nightshade actually did love Pat. I replied that I wouldn't be making my observation if I wasn't convinced that this was the case. His response was "As their creator, and the person who's been drawing them for over a decade, I can assure you they're fine, and these Ask pages are mostly just jokes and fun things." (I don't recall a time where Pat has ever had fun, sadly)

Which he can say, if he likes, and he could be telling the truth- I'm still not convinced. Just like writing, narrative in artwork strongly favors "showing" over "telling"; his response fails because the observation wasn't just based on his Ask Puz n Pals uploads, but their "history" in art as well.

If what's happening is an unhealthy, one-sided relationship focused on Nightshade taking advantage of him without any care for how it affects him, that would be fine. There are plenty of steamy cuck stories that either paint the parties as being legitimately in love and looking for spice, or paint parties as being deliberately malicious and demeaning; but in both instances, a successful narrative will make it clear what's going on. With Kadath, he's insisting it's more meaningful than malicious, and it's just not convincing.

>>1488581

So, yeah, as it was pointed out, I wouldn't be surprised if Kad's own "cuckolding" relationship was actually abusive and he's just too naive to know it, to the point where he still has no idea how it's done right.

Edited at 2018/09/02 15:20:11
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 06:54:03 No.1489287
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Would it be better if Night actually stood up for Patrick at any point? Like even saying something to Joshua along the lines of “watch it”, or “dial it back “ or defending her “true “ partner would at least hint somewhat that she cares. But nope, if anything she just piles on with insults that are scathing to anyone’s pride
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Prokura 2018/09/02 07:34:39 No.1489299
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after reading the last 17 comments there are some people who likes this comic and people who think Night is a Bitch .... still I like this comic and I don't think that there is a big problem with the cuckolding there.
I know cuckolding is just not for everyone but some people like it just the way it is

If Pat and Night would break up because of this it would be sad but I don't think this is gonna happen
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Prokura 2018/09/02 07:36:48 No.1489302
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>>1489299
happy end maybe ?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 09:26:36 No.1489341
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>>1489287
It would at least back up Kadath's claim that Night actually loves, Pat. It rarely, if ever shows in his work these days, as his work is reaching levels of cringe that are typically found in art by dreamcastzx1.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/09/02 15:35:40 No.1489428
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>>1489341

The difference is that Dreamcastzx isn't trying to pretend that his cuck art isn't abusive or malicious, and he'll freely admit that it's netotare.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 18:08:22 No.1489512
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>>1489299
best way to respond to criticism? snarky normie memes from 3 years ago.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 19:29:25 No.1489557
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>>1489428
Despite the obvious gap in skill between the two, because let's be honest and admit that Kadath is a far better artist, it's pretty damn bad to be compared to a guy like Dreamcastzx1, when it comes to cringe factor.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 21:38:45 No.1489586
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>>1489299
>>1489299

I still can't decide what color fur look the best on her: Black or Brown.

Although I would LOVE to see more of Brownshade myself.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/02 21:59:28 No.1489595
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Anything new available?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/03 18:55:43 No.1489970
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>>1489299
The problem really isnt it being cuckholding but that it is being done badly and is coming off more malicious despite being told they love each other.

This comic looks more like a netorare than cucking here. If you take out the few instances of Pat saying he is excited in the last few pages and you got a basic netorare climax.

No matter how much kadath says they love each other very much if it keeps feeling as one sided and malicious as it does it's hard to believe it. Especially after that horrid showing in the book making it seem that Nightshade really doesn't know when the fetish needs to stop. The ask image while a joke also presses a nerve with quite a few I imagine because that series is one of the few times where we see them as an actual couple instead of the fetish.

Hell honestly I think a threesome should have happened in the middle of this before the cucking with some more talk around it. It would have at least established that they are all comfortable with each other a bit at the least and let them set up some rules. Things that are pretty important in a cucking scenario tmk.
Aside from that it would just be nice to see Pat and Nightshade together for a bit just normally. We don't get to see that much at all which doesn't help either
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Furrynomous 2018/09/03 20:45:32 No.1490018
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What happened in the book? I heard the ending was heartwarming,to say the least, but how far did Night take the dirty talk during the cuckold?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/03 21:58:48 No.1490036
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>>1490018

W-what... Kadath is trying to write a book? But... all these characters are so hateable and just awful. None of the relationships make any sense, Diamond and... jesus, "Night Shade's" rivalry is so vapid and hollow it's not compelling in any way.

Patrick is just as unlikeable as the rest of them.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/03 22:17:16 No.1490046
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>>1490018
Essentially they set up a cuck scenario and Nightshade and the buck ended up jumping way too deep into things way too fast while Pat was pretty much a newbie. A lot of it was stuff Pat wasn't told, like a foursome, which is essentially cheating since he wasn't made aware of it. Also even when the cucking wasn't happening like during a random breakfast she would provoke Pat and show him a ring the buck bought her.

Basically things went too far way too fast and it actually got to the point where it broke Pat.

At the end of it Nightshade ends up finishing with Pat and the buck ends up going to space(Im not kidding) so they won't come back later but it still makes me think really negatively of how kadath goes about this fetish and Nightshade's way of doing it here.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 00:54:44 No.1490086
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He could just break them up, turn her into a turbothot and be done with it already. Might as well start over.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 01:47:06 No.1490099
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>>1490046
i pointed on this thread that book feels like been written by someone who think they understand cuckolding from watching porn and shit.

some of the guys here mentioned that Kadath had a toxic relationship with necrodrone, which bring Kadath's understanding of the fetish in question?

if this is really how Kadath think cuckolding works, then that makes me feel sorry for him...
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 02:39:24 No.1490114
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>>1490099
Yeah the person who wrote it didn't seem to know how it works. Though kadath had signed off on it and considering from what I heard he had them put in more together time between Pat and Nightshade which makes it seem that what was in the book was too much for even kadath without some more time to establish their relationship.

Though the fact that it was even allowed to happen like it was puts me on edge with scenarios like this for him now. Not even taking into account they may have been in an abusive cuck relationship themself which tmk can skew how a person views that kind of relationship.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 03:38:44 No.1490127
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Kadath needs to learn how to write better and be wary of what commissioners want.
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/09/04 07:13:01 No.1490157
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>>1490036

It should be mentioned that Kadath didn't actually write the book, he just allowed a fan of his characters to write it while providing the art for it.

That said, the fact that he enjoyed it to the point of considering it "not-canon, but in-character" shows that neither he nor the author knows how cuckolding actually works. That would be fine if it were a stupid couple who have no clue about it were the ones doing it, except Nightshade is supposedly a dominatrix who -should- know this, and this was supposedly the first time they'd done it.

The foursome scene is just straight-up cheating. It was -supposed- to be between Pat, Night, and the author's OC insert, but for some reason the buck decided to bring in three new strangers just to humiliate Pat, without even discussing it with him.

Edited at 2018/09/04 08:19:58
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/09/04 07:54:16 No.1490163
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Damn double-post...

Edited at 2018/09/04 08:18:18
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 08:18:51 No.1490172
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Any new pages?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/04 21:43:00 No.1490343
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>>1488968
>Joshua
>alpha
pick one

also he's a generic as fuck wolf but hey might as well put a bunch of tats on him to make him unique right?!?!?!?

man, Nightshade fans are so damn generic
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Furrynomous 2018/09/05 02:05:34 No.1490416
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At least Dirty Talk felt a little more even, Pat had at least some control in that.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/05 08:46:59 No.1490525
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New page out
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Furrynomous 2018/09/05 15:22:23 No.1490603
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>>1490525
Lol you say it's out but don't post it? :p
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Furrynomous 2018/09/06 01:10:02 No.1490735
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>>1490603
He means "the new page is out and I can't find a site that posted it nor do I want to pay for it. Can someone else please post it?"
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 11:13:37 No.1491307
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No one has the new page?
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Little_wolf :P 2018/09/07 11:54:40 No.1491311
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>>1491307
my guess they had enough of it :P
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Pride 2018/09/07 13:21:36 No.1491336
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I think beyond the reader knowing where this couple has set their boundaries, which is good, but not the overarching issue, since it should be assumed that they have already discussed that, and that Nightshade wouldn't break them even with someone who doesn't know about their play. Maybe she informed Joshua while Pat was out. Who knows.

No, what the primary issue that I don't recall from Kadath's other pieces is something vital to any relationship of an imbalance of power, control, or status. It's important in BDSM and I've been the bull enough for couples to know it's vital for a cuckolding relationship. That's aftercare. Not just a pity handjob, but some form of discussion, reassurance, something to show that everyone's still on the same page and that they're enjoying things. This kind of communication is key, so that both parties know that the other isn't as heartless as they come off as in their play. There is a very fine line being walked between a loving cuckolding or even BDSM relationship and one that is abusive.
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Little_wolf :P 2018/09/07 13:51:35 No.1491339
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boy do i have a handbook for you! :P

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x0hvgov4qgsfzqx/cuckold%20handbook.pdf?dl=0
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 16:20:15 No.1491448
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I wish I could have the expectation that Nightshade would explain boundaries or at least not go past them but considering Kadath considered her cheating in the book "in character" Im...apprehensive.

Though I think a lack of communication in general is a major problem here. Like according to this comic Joshua wasn't even told that Pat likes this kind of thing until AFTER Pat had come back and he and Nightshade were in each others mouths and more than ready to go at it, which is kind of shitty if you ask me. Like he got permission from her but until Pat came back it looks like he was perfectly willing to fuck someone else's girlfriend with no care about how they felt about it.
Not only was there a lack of explanation for the reader, it is inferred that Joshua wasn't even told about it and didn't really care until Pat was actually in the room which makes both him and Nightshade seem heartless going into it.

Though I really am hoping that this at least ends with something indicating some kind of care between Pat and Nightshade, something showing not only that both parties benefited but that each other is still their top and only priority.
Unfortunately I can easily see this comic ending with Joshua getting a weeklong use of Nightshade with us being told that Pat likes it while looking the opposite. :/
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 16:33:52 No.1491450
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To everyone worried, this seems to be a WIP of the next page, with Kadath's caption reading "go get her, Pat!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmXs7YiVsAAE114.jpg:small
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 17:40:59 No.1491466
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and another page is out...
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 22:40:46 No.1491540
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If someone could post the latest pages, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 22:47:00 No.1491542
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>>1491540
Then why don't you go and buy them? Since no one else seems to want too.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/07 23:47:10 No.1491551
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>>1491542
um you want every anon here to post "i want it"...
are you trying to torment the mods? :/
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Furrynomous 2018/09/08 00:12:59 No.1491622
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>>1491551

.....Yes?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/08 04:50:47 No.1491737
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So we have two pages out that haven't been posted at all. Are the people who posted previous pages not getting the new ones?

Im not exactly sure how these things work honestly
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Furrynomous 2018/09/08 06:34:57 No.1491773
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^This comic is a Patreon release, meaning it's supposed to be "exclusive early content" to those who donate $5 or more every now and then to Kadath.

If the people before haven't updated with it here, it means they just either just haven't been paying a close on it, or more likely they're fed up with the fetish and stopped paying.

Just be patient, surely it'll release in full once it's done.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/08 06:35:45 No.1491774
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^close eye*
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Furrynomous 2018/09/08 12:26:49 No.1491886
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well guys... i think i'm over kadath's uncomfortable writing...

Edited at 2018/09/09 01:59:05
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Furrynomous 2018/09/09 04:50:07 No.1492321
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Thanks for the update
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Furrynomous 2018/09/09 04:56:24 No.1492323
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>>1492317
>>1492318
thanks for the update
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Furrynomous 2018/09/09 06:42:29 No.1492362
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Yay, finally they show SOME kind of emotion.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/09 14:57:49 No.1492455
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well the emotion is good to finally see, but it feels like there was a few missteps in the execution that the pay off doesn't even matter at this point. The few lines of dialogue is nice, but is a small payoff considering what we had to trudge through to get here. Also: giving her used condom like that kinda ruins the emotional mood a bit; but then again i might be an outlier.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/09 17:40:08 No.1492519
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Im just happy that some time is being spent between Pat and Nadia and some dialogue that does seem to be caring and loving to a degree.
Though wish Pat would just go all out. It's obvious she can take it. lol
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Furrynomous 2018/09/10 06:47:25 No.1492741
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I get the feeling Kadath's characters will be stuck in an eternal limbo. Sebastion will constantly overpraise Puzzle's snatch, obssessed with her without good reason, and Nightshade will fuck around with others while Pat claims to agree, yet he flinches every time she does. Let's hope I'm wrong and everything will make sense as this world of Kadath's moves forward.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/10 18:20:51 No.1493083
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welp she obviously had him put the condom on too so she could compare quantities, the question is will it be used for more ntr type stuff (look at how much better his load is than yours) or the opposite?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/10 20:25:35 No.1493119
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>>1493083

I really hope it is the opposite. Or just that she knew he was close and used the condom as a way for them to extend their time together at the end.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/10 22:11:35 No.1493149
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>>1492741
>without good reason
lmao
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Furrynomous 2018/09/11 17:45:05 No.1493432
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new page is out
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Furrynomous 2018/09/12 14:29:45 No.1493747
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I guess even after this you can't really please everyone (or anyone in the case of kadath's stuff) Just goes to show how ungrateful pretty much everyone is. I mean does anyone even say a ''thanks'' to the leaker dudes posting the new pages of this thing? Or did i just miss it this pile of complainments? I mean it's one thing to offer some constructive criticism to the artist but its a whole other thing just ranting and complaining about every lil thing (even when you get what you demand you still complain and whine) you people need to really chill, it's just porn after all, it's not taking itself too seriously anyway (unlike the novel) so you shouldn't over think it either
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Furrynomous 2018/09/12 14:50:48 No.1493756
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It's nice for the people providing the pages(thanks for that) but not sure why people should be grateful for how the comic is going at this point. At the most it's nice that the couple is actually getting to do some stuff together but at worst this will end up another way to demean him. Hoping the former so here's hoping.
It's honestly kind of frustrating at this point to see Pat so timid considering the last comic I saw him in with her he did actually try to be dominant to a degree. Im just confused where this being afraid to hurt her thing has come from, he's been rough with her before, he's more than likely bedded her quite a few times before. He should be well aware of her limits at this point. :/
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Furrynomous 2018/09/12 20:17:48 No.1493821
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>>1493756
is this comic canon? doesn't look like it at all
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Furrynomous 2018/09/13 04:06:26 No.1493906
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>>1493821
yes and no... the idea is there are general canon facts.
1- Nightshade used to be a dominatrix (trained a few people in sex, or had hardcore sex with them).
2- Nightshade and Patrick are into cuckolding (they tried it with some people).

in the canon they don't mention who, so the commissions play with the idea that it was one of the events that happened.

Josh was trained by Nightshade in the past before she dated Pat, and since Nightshade and Pat are into cuckolding this commission can be lumped with "people who they tried cuckolding with".

so basically soft canon, you can ignore it and it wouldn't change anything.

Edited at 2018/09/13 04:07:28
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Furrynomous 2018/09/13 04:18:08 No.1493909
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>>1493821

Of course it's canon, the condom is an infinity stone.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/13 13:45:39 No.1493995
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It's probably like the book where it's said to be non-canon but "in character"
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Furrynomous 2018/09/15 10:28:57 No.1494621
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another page is up...

any idea how many pages it's supposed to be?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/15 11:05:17 No.1494624
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>>1493821
If a lot of the content being produced parallels these current stories it might as well be canon, because it will be the dominate interpretation of these characters' actions. Saying it's not canon doesn't change this fact. Most of us are more familiar with the non-canon versions of these two characters and have little understanding of the so-called canon version of them.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/16 02:38:49 No.1494810
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>>1494782
thanks for the update :3
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Furrynomous 2018/09/16 17:43:31 No.1495071
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Bout time Pat pulled off the kid gloves and just went at it. lol.
Rather liked the last page or two honestly.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/17 02:05:11 No.1495186
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Am I missing some trick of perspective? Text implies equally filled condoms, but the condom on the left looks much fuller than the one on the right.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/17 08:13:28 No.1495246
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>>1495186

It is intentional.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/17 12:02:08 No.1495308
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>>1495186
>about on par with Joshua's
my guess is patrik is kinda bad at estimating volumes *shrug*

Edited at 2018/09/17 12:03:00
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Furrynomous 2018/09/17 13:52:38 No.1495344
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>>1495308
i think he meant ... almost as good as him but not really...

also i can't tell which one belongs to who.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/18 15:58:26 No.1495625
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page 19 is out...
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UNeverKnowWhoUrTalking2 2018/09/18 16:20:55 No.1495637
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Furrynomous 2018/09/19 01:09:08 No.1495779
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>>1495637
thank you :D
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Furrynomous 2018/09/20 12:59:15 No.1496208
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This last page is what I wanted this whole comic to be when Joshua came into the picture
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Furrynomous 2018/09/20 13:04:14 No.1496209
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I think this might be a tired opinion at this point but here it is: I don’t hate Kadath’s art or stories... what I kinda find weird, though, is how he’s changed Patrick and Nightshade’s relationship. She used to be only a Dominatrix, but now it feels like her entire existence is to be a terrible person to Patrick. Patrick, on the other hand, Allows her to be like this because he’s terrible at saying no. In a healthy Sub/Dom relationship, it usually goes at the sub’s pace, and the Don takes off. It would not surprise me if it turned out Nightshade had no safeword, however.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/20 16:15:32 No.1496267
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page 20 is up on patreon :3
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Furrynomous 2018/09/20 17:30:02 No.1496278
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People pay money for massive chin badly drawn cuck art? Yowza
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Furrynomous 2018/09/21 00:51:05 No.1496369
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People pay money for massive chin badly drawn cuck art? Yowza

You mean different people can have different fetishes? Shocking!

Edited at 2018/09/21 00:51:21
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Furrynomous 2018/09/21 05:50:04 No.1496423
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>>1496369

Hard to believe that when the artist themselves don't have a spine.
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??? 2018/09/21 13:44:45 No.1496549
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I still honestly don't see the chin thing and can't figure out wtf you people are talking about.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/21 15:38:29 No.1496589
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>>1496549
Kadath used to draw bigger muzzles on his characters, so some people decided to make it a thing about him drawing huge chins. It's pretty stupid.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/22 07:26:25 No.1496845
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looks like page 20 is the last page ... he released cover art for it...

there is a name attached in the tags, Dragon Cobolt (the writer of bucking the system) is listed... i think he is interested in the comic.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/22 16:40:34 No.1496967
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>>1496845

That's....not a good sign
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Furrynomous 2018/09/24 09:15:35 No.1497792
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Does anyone have the last page?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/25 04:30:09 No.1498234
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>>1497792
and might also need the cover :P
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Furrynomous 2018/09/27 11:22:00 No.1498952
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no updates?
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Furrynomous 2018/09/30 01:57:48 No.1499876
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>>1499764
>>1499762
thanks for the update :3

wait... 'special thanks to Dragon Cobolt'... so Dragon Cobolt wrote this comic?... this might explain a lot of things >_>
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Furrynomous 2018/09/30 05:13:20 No.1499902
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>>1499876
If we're going to take his last literary 'masterpiece' into account then that's one hell of a quality jump. Well, the bar wasn't high to begin with...more like it was on the ground covered in horse shit and poor research. In any case, looks like ol Kaddyshacks and crew are making it their side project to teach Bluey the BDSM Bluetongue (sorry, dragon. I'm never going to take that seriously) the importance of consent and communication. He's got a way to go until his writing resembles real human communication but props to him for trying his darnedest. They even think they added in aftercare into that.

"Hey long-term partner, after those days of cuck roleplaying I want some feedback and validation because I'm in a vulnerable position and that's kind of the deal with our kink. Anyway do you actually find my style satisfying?"

"Oh Pattycakes you silly willy billy fuck-whatever I like you for you"

"That...didn't actually answer the question"

"But see, if I say I prefer you then you should have nothing to worry about and your concerns are invalid"

Oh man, writing that I just realised that this is the 'why does it matter when I still come home to you every night?" line. Okay no, I take back my first paragraph. Kads, Basic-Bro Wolf and Kinky Skink can go back to their rooms and only come out when you know what healthy relationships look, feel, and smell like.

Edited at 2018/09/30 05:14:39
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>>1499902
oh man... that criticism scratches my itch!

to be fair kadath did an ok job with 'Share And Share Alike' and 'Dirty Talk' ... i think his collab with Dragon Cobolt messed everything up regarding Pat and Night...

we could argue that the book and this comic is non-canon, but that doesn't change the fact that Kadath wants Pat and Night to be into cuckolding as canon :/

and i heard the argument that Night is only doing that so that Pat have his 'fun', but that's bullshit... for many reasons.

1- in bed you don't indulge in a fetish, you make short visits ( yeah sometimes it expands to stuff out of the bedroom as a life style but that is rare ).

2- if you are forcing yourself to please your partner... then something went horribly wrong.

3- Night enjoys herself on the expense of Pat's insecurities.
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Furrynomous 2018/09/30 06:42:07 No.1499925
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>>1499902
and don't forget about the fact she doesn't give pat any anal... you may think it's stupid reason but there is a valid explanation.

she claims that her tail hole is sacred and shouldn't be toyed with...

yet in the book she allows strangers in the gym to fuck her in the ass...

it's when your partner says i don't do BJs for some reason, yet you discover she did that with people your partner dated... meaning you are not deserving of that privilege...
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Furrynomous 2018/09/30 21:57:23 No.1500261
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>>1499925

Well honestly if we're talking about the same book in the gym locker rooms, she didnt get fucked in the ass, she was getting fucked cowgirl style while jerking and sucking the other 2 guys off.
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 11:41:46 No.1500816
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>>1500261
She didnt get fucked in the ass in the gym but it was heavily implied she could have been. And she didnt seem to object at all, you can argue that it was all part of her pro roleplay but still that only proves she is a bit sadistic and enjoyed hurting Pat a bit on an emotional level just toying with the idea that she would have let on of them stick it up the ass too. Honestly i kinda wish she would finally give her asshole to someone already regardless who it is either Pat or someone else. Its getting a bit tiresome with all her ''no anal'' fish shit. Also Pat should just find someone else, they are way too different to be together even for furry cartoon standards. They are like water and oil. He should just go back to his sister at least she really appreciates him. And he definetly gets along with Di and Seb so it would be pretty fitting as a double dating thing. Thats just me doe
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 11:49:56 No.1500818
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I love Nightshade as a character, shes hot and has an interesting attitude but despite that, i dont think she is fit for a real relationship. She tends to let fetishes escalate way too far with Pat and makes a lot of wrong by him and forgets to even ask for his opinion at times too. Shes much better off as the lone dom at the Safari that she used to be before she hooked up with Pat. Also anyone else think she seems a bit bored at times with her relationship with Pat? It may be just me but it just seems like their sex life is very dull and boring (mostly cuz of Pat) and that could be another reason why she is the one who always proposes to spice things up (cucking for example. Remember, She was the one who first came up with it, Pat just went along as always)
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 12:43:43 No.1500827
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>>1500816
Everyone does have their own limits and it should be respected, and honestly pat is the one that started cuckolding since he finds it really hot. it's his guilty pleasure, and nightshade is willing to indulge for both of their pleasure. when it comes to cuckolding its takes both partners to have consent. Also it may not look like it when nightshade is cucking pat, but she truly does love and care for him.(forgot to add) also i'm pretty sure she would use the safe word if anyone did try to stuff her butt, which anyone that played with her know it's offlimts. anyone trying doing so anyway without her consent otherwise is not part of the roleplay, it's pretty much forcing.

Edited at 2018/10/02 12:49:30
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 14:20:20 No.1500840
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>>1500827
"but she truly does love and care for him"
there is a rule called "show, don't tell" and well, most of the time, it shows the opposite of what is told, she seems a domineering, selfish person to a lot of people who does not care for anyone besiders herself - this is a refreshing exception, at least the end is. So the critique is mostly not with the character itself, but rather the execution.
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 17:01:32 No.1500879
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So now the discussion has turned into how Kad should break up Pat and Night. Okay. Let's seek him out and rant at him about it. I'm sure it'll go over well. /s
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Furrynomous 2018/10/02 19:44:05 No.1500917
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I'd fuck Nightshade and Pat, because they are very attractive, but I'd abandon them and let them suffer from their own mistakes, because they're not very good people. There are better characters than these two that do cuckolding better. Characters that avoid inciting drama, unlike these two who seem to want to make things unnecessarily worse, when they don't have to be at all. Nightshade is oblivious to Pat's feelings, when he shows hesitation often, and Pat never voices his feelings, when he's clearly not entirely comfortable with this stuff. They're simply too sloppy when it comes to cuckolding and it's shameful. And that's why so many readers ARE shaming them.
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Furrynomous 2018/10/03 19:14:09 No.1501264
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>>1500840
Pretty much this. Kadath doesnt seem to ever write Nightshade out of her domme character. Or he attempts to but it's like he hasn't properly established her real personality so he teeters back to dominant Nightshade and calls her Nadia.
It's certainly possible to write the line between the role play and the person. Hell, look at Sunstone's Allison for an well written example of a bdsm domme and story in general.
But as people have stated before: Pat is a sub who has no boundaries or persona to fall into during cucking. And Nightshade is a badly written dominant who
1. Leaves all the responsibility to the sub to call safe word (hey Kadath, ever done a scene where the sub goes into subspace? Yeah good luck trying to get a word out of them much less the safe word.)

2. Leaps into the scene in full swing without a warm up.

This was a porn comic that didn't know if it was a Puzzle-Di-Seb threesome or a scene. Kadath needs to commit to one per comic and write it properly rather than create a hybrid that fails at both.
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Furrynomous 2018/10/05 20:35:11 No.1502069
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Lot of people seem to blame kadath for the lazy and sloppy cuck writing but it's not him who writes these things usually, he mostly just comes up with the art and idea for a story but leaves it for others to ''write it''. In this case dragoncobalt was the writer (the guy who wrote the Bucking System) so people should lay off kad a bit and actually see who is responsible for the so called writing in these things first
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Furrynomous 2018/10/05 20:37:35 No.1502072
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To be honest i love the ideas in all of Kad's cucking material, both the comics and the novel and the art is great but the writing and the execution of his ideas are... bleh at the very best
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Furrynomous 2018/10/05 20:56:12 No.1502075
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If the writer was trying to set up some sort of conflict between Night and Pat that they have to overcome he failed big time. Also did they really gotta go the cucking route with Joshua? The guy isnt fit for cucking Pat even one tiny bit. First of all he was an insecure and inexperienced kid last time we saw him and now hes back all of a sudden with magic powers and abilities that make any bitch wet... right. Second, his cock and Pats are pretty much the same size (if not smaller) so thats a minus on the cuck appeal. Third his whole personality isnt fit for being a jerk and hes not good at acting either, on top of that Pat is clearly shown to be the bigger male. If i didnt know the characters any better id say Joshua should have been the cucked and Pat the cucker. This comic was a waste of a good idea about Night, Pat and Josh having friendly loving threesome like in the last page, instead it focused on Pats fetish (and insecurities) and the drama between him and Night as well as failing to make the ''alpha'' male seem like an alpha. At least in the bucking system the Buck guy was actually a good choice for an alpha not to mention he was fit for the story too, the execution was just poorly done. Here doe its a complete mess. I really hope Kad does one of 2 things, either start making stories that dont revolve around Pat's cucking fetish and insecure life and make it about anything else with him or make a cuck story with him that actually has a good and informed writer behind it cuz the Cobalt guy dont know shite
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Furrynomous 2018/10/06 17:41:12 No.1502416
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>>1502075
"now hes back all of a sudden with magic powers and abilities that make any bitch wet"

The wish fulfilment in this wolf guy's commissions are painfully obvious. Looking through his gallery and i gotta say the lack of subtlety is remarkable. It doesn't surprise me that the story made him the 'rough sex alpha male'.
I guess that's the irony? The bull in the comic is actually the cuck in real life.
If I'm being honest, a big part of the frustration I'm getting from this comic is that is was a big fat erotica fan fiction with another Gary Stu.
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>>1499876
If we're going to take his last literary 'masterpiece' into account then that's one hell of a quality jump. Well, the bar wasn't high to begin with...more like it was on the ground covered in horse shit and poor research. In any case, looks like ol Kaddyshacks and crew are making it their side project to teach Bluey the BDSM Bluetongue (sorry, dragon. I'm never going to take that seriously) the importance of consent and communication. He's got a way to go until his writing resembles real human communication but props to him for trying his darnedest. They even think they added in aftercare into that.

"Hey long-term partner, after those days of cuck roleplaying I want some feedback and validation because I'm in a vulnerable position and that's kind of the deal with our kink. Anyway do you actually find my style satisfying?"

"Oh Pattycakes you silly willy billy fuck-whatever I like you for you"

"That...didn't actually answer the question"

"But see, if I say I prefer you then you should have nothing to worry about and your concerns are invalid"

Oh man, writing that I just realised that this is the 'why does it matter when I still come home to you every night?" line. Okay no, I take back my first paragraph. Kads, Basic-Bro Wolf and Kinky Skink can go back to their rooms and only come out when you know what healthy relationships look, feel, and smell like.

>TMW youre such an extreme virgin you think legitimate love is unhealthy.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/16 08:57:05 No.1518114
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>>1518089
Kad is aware of issues... i made sure of it :P

at the moment Kadath has not officially made Nadia and pat into cuckolding (in a comic of his writing), so according to him books and commission don't count.

he hopes one day to do so, but he is in a spot where tries to balance Patrick's 'preciousness' and the humiliation aspect of it, although i noted to him humiliation is not a mandatory requirement, and they are new to it... so there would be a progression/transition for that to happen.

meaning if he wants to do properly, he would have to break it down to more comics...
- a comic where they try it with someone (vanilla).
- a comic where they try humiliation (and the drama behind it).
- a comic where they are comfortable with their fetish.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/16 20:54:26 No.1518264
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>>1518114
>Kad is aware of issues... i made sure of it :P
That sounds ominous. What did you do, harass him?
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Furrynomous 2018/11/17 00:36:46 No.1518321
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>>1518264
We exchanged e-mails you dope... -_-
Seems like a descent fellow, I could enjoy a beer with him :P
He explained the backlash he got after published dirty talk... So officially he won't write any cuckolding ( except for commissions ), maybe after sometime has passed and got a good script going.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/19 02:40:36 No.1518963
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>>1518321
So is he working on a new Nightshade/Patrick comic?
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Furrynomous 2018/11/19 05:10:13 No.1518982
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>>1518963
he plans on doing it... but not now or anytime soon...

he'll wait until the shitstrom has passed, so that he could work on it properly.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/19 14:28:41 No.1519107
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I didn't think the comic or novel were bad per se....maybe a bit rushed without telling or showing the relationship they had outside of the acts. It did a bit In the book....but the comic didn't really show how close pat and shade were while in the act. Maybe if the comic had more to it to show them in the more loving dynamic then it might have been better received....but I've noticed longer drawn out comics get bashed even worse for taking to long to get to the fun. So what can an artist really do? Get straight to action without context and risk it sounding stupid....or draw it out to develop character but have readers get bored or frustrated with taking too long
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Furrynomous 2018/11/19 15:45:26 No.1519124
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>>1519107
the comic didn't have real issues, but it was something unexpected... most arguments against it can be dismissed as "a couple imagining a fantasy".

the book on the other have really deep rooted issues... for starters it was written by someone who believes that he understands the Fetish is about, making major mistakes that made the relationship feel abusive.

the length of the comic depends on how good it was written... if someone can't write then should skip directly to the porn (Daddy's little secret comes to mind, i mean if zaush removed the story and just focused on the sex we could have got 6 pages of decent porn)... kadath on the other hand doesn't want just porn, he wants a story that makes the sex remarkable, so if he wants to do it right he has to develop a story and take his time with it, even with the risk of people losing interest.
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Furrynomous 2018/11/19 17:50:26 No.1519149
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So now the comic is okay after months of bitching and whining?

Anyway, besides the knee-jerk pearl-clutching reactions people have to cuckolding, I think the subject matter makes sense within the Nightshade/Patrick dynamic. Seems this and the novel were stories that involved other people's characters, so that may be why they felt rushed or somewhat out of character?
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Furrynomous 2018/11/20 01:29:07 No.1519259
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The book and this featuring other people's characters isn't the issues with them. It's being stories written about people cucking in a relationship while not understanding what that actually entails.

On top of the fetish in question being something that the two main characters aren't shown to be well versed in beforehand. Previous attempts being clumsily handled at best as well.

A lot of the images with these two characters done in the recent years being based on only that fetish too can make it more annoying as well as a lot of the previously set up dynamic between them was kind of thrown out the window too, leaving their relationship as kind of a big question mark.

None of it has been handled well at all which also muddles the actual story with the characters kadath is trying to build up.

The criticism being shrugged off as "why u hate cucking so much?!" also makes things worse as tmk other cucking stories are enjoyed just fine from what I have seen, and is being a dick to the people who are invested in the characters since they can't object to them acting out of character because how dare they not like fetish. Which is even more silly as I have seen several people who were criticizing these stories were into the fetish or knowledgeable in it themselves.

Honestly wanted to see just the two characters be together for once since that is rarely ever shown anymore but even past that this comic and the book have not been handled well. :/
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 09:09:47 No.1537754
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taken from his twitter account

"I'm considering doing a sequel to Dirty Talk called Dirtier Talk. Still working out the logistics though. In the meantime, here's a teaser of what that would likely entail (with an updated Markus design)!

This was posted first on my Patreon: http://patreon.com/Kadath "
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 09:09:49 No.1537755
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>>1537754
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 13:30:51 No.1537825
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>>1537754

I'm going to start calling him Kuckdath, I think.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 14:55:13 No.1537846
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When and how did this cuck shit fetish become so prominent in straight furry porn?
It feels like it's everywhere these days.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 15:19:24 No.1537853
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>>1537846
I dunno, maybe the same time all that incest stuff showed up in Pornhubs most watched tab.
*brrrrr* Damn young people!
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 16:36:25 No.1537877
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>>1537846
Probably around the same time any woman with a huge ass, tits and belly fat became a "MILF". That fetish is waaaay more prevalent than the cuck stuff. It's oversaturated at this point.

Both of these trendy fetishes involve women in a position of sexual power. One is more strict, the other nurturing. There's probably a psychological aspect that hits a nerve with the current (presumably) male demographic.

Eventually artists will burn out on the cuck stuff and users will burn out on MILFs and we'll switch to balloon animal fetishes or something.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/11 17:49:03 No.1537895
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>>1537877
Well JollyJack has been catering the whole inflation fetish market for a long time. Balloon animals for all!

But I feel that the reason the increased prominence in non monogamy in porn is because its consensual flavours like polyamoury is becoming more accepted these days.
But vanilla group sex is le boring I guess so let's tack it onto the bdsm bandwagon and there we get cuckholding.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/12 00:59:13 No.1538013
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>>1537895
You may be on to something. But also, hasn't Nightshade always been a bdsm character? It doesn't seem too out of character for her to cuck Pat.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/12 15:27:54 No.1538253
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>>1538013
IIRC at the beginning not much of her current domme lifestyle was explored. She was this alluring, gothic carnivore 'shrew' character and the violence was hinted to be due to Kadath's world canon that carnivores are more rough and primal than herbivores during sex.

It seemed like the goth thing evolved over time to become bdsm. If you go through Pat's old art (incest era) he was usually drawn with your punk fashion set with collars, studded bracelets and fishnet shirts. As was the fashion back in that scene.
Nightshade followed the same style with fishnets and demonia boots.

It's only relatively recently that Kadath has transitioned them from heavy metal fans to bdsm practitioners. Though its a bit of a loss for myself personally to see Pat's character has traded in his confidence for the more submissive role. I found it pretty entertaining to see him 'turn the tables' on Nightshade.

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