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Sabrina Online (New Thread) Furrynomous 2023/02/15 04:18:30 No.2252179

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Old one was getting too full and hard for people to get into, so decided to make a new one.

Here's the old thread if you want to view any of the older comments and pages:

>>1273246

And here's the backup thread:
>>2369127
Edited at 2025/01/08 13:40:52

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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 04:20:33 No.2252180

Can't wait to see the karma and lesson she's going to end up learning after the lack of work she did back in the last storyline.

Oh. And here's the usual.
From Eric:
>Starting up the new comic, brought to you in part by my other computers, the ones with 1/4 the memory and 1/20th the speed.

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 04:54:27 No.2252185

>>2252179
Holy shit! A storyline that doesn't start with Zig Zag or Sabrina? This might actually go somewhere entertaining for once.

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 06:04:38 No.2252206

Oh nice is he going to cheat on his wife and bang Tabitha so we can finally get some good porn?

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 06:07:10 No.2252207

BTW, "HectorNY" at Deviant Art already did a couple renders of Tabitha taking on this job, and Tabitha ended up tied up, gagged and having to be rescued by Sabrina. :-)

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 06:43:45 No.2252239

>>2252207

The "we got one" could be taken in a very different way. They could send the kids off to their grandparents and have a night alone with Tabitha instead. Big money to be made with a long night of hard work.

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 20:07:15 No.2252375

>>2252206
th'fuck is wrong with you

>>2252207
so what

Furrynomous 2023/02/15 22:12:44 No.2252405

>>2252207
Can you post those renders? I can't find them

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 03:50:09 No.2252536

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Here you go.

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 03:50:14 No.2252537

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>>2252536

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 08:05:16 No.2252728

So when's the porn comic of tabitha getting banged?

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 10:10:13 No.2252745

>>2252239

>The "we got one" could be taken in a very different way.

In my mind's eye, my guess is that litter's EWS's answer to the Simpson kids and them being blacklisted by all babysitting services...

(Least this might give her a taste of her own medicine and makes her realise how she behaved around Sabrina whenever she had to babysit her)

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 10:31:43 No.2252746

I just found out about this system called the Amiga CD-32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKqRz64eQD4 What are the odds EWS has one of these?

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 14:29:57 No.2252798

>>2252745

Oh its definitely just that like you're thinking, a very simple and fun story premise. I'm just one of those bastards that are cooking up bad Tabitha fanfic ideas.

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 15:03:45 No.2252804

>>2252745
Not completely her fault there. Tabitha was just a hyperactive kid who was dumped on Sabrina by Endora a lot, who honestly should've started charging money since it kept happening a lot instead of just outright stopping taking her mother's calls. This is more of a lesson for the little one to learn that babysitting is a hell of a lot more work than just hoping kids play quietly while she's messing with her tablet all day not watching them.

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 15:05:34 No.2252806

>>2252745
>In my mind's eye, my guess is that litter's EWS's answer to the Simpson kids and them being blacklisted by all babysitting services...

I forgot that joke. Just thought the parents had a somewhat trust to leave the two unintended or leave them under Abe Simpsons "watch".

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 17:19:16 No.2252864

>>2252746
If EWS owns that obscure game console, I wouldn't be surprised

Furrynomous 2023/02/16 17:19:39 No.2252865

Or it will segway into being about Tabitha getting overwhelmed and calling in Zig Zag for help. 'Cause, you know, of course the arc will have to feature the resident Sue.

Furrynomous 2023/02/17 01:36:04 No.2253010

>>2252865

Dammit this is exactly what's going to happen.

Furrynomous 2023/02/17 16:52:33 No.2253162

>>2252746
>>2252864

I'd be really surprised, TBH, considering that the Amiga CD32 was never actually sold in the USA. (Commodore went bankrupt before they could launch it in the US market.) Eric would either had to have specifically sought it out from a "grey-market" dealer who specialized in imported consoles from Europe, or possibly managed to score one off of eBay much later on... and honestly, Eric doesn't strike me as being as much of a "gamer" that he would go to the trouble.

Furrynomous 2023/02/18 18:22:50 No.2253715

Ah yes. Another fun game of trying to guess what old junk an aging tech junky like Eric has in his house. It really will never get old.

Furrynomous 2023/02/18 20:12:40 No.2253754

>>2253162
Honestly, it's not hard to get something imported by getting it on Ebay. And Ebay's been around like what, 20 years? If it's retro technology, and usable, and has the name Amiga branded on it. Then I've no doubt EWS either has it or wants it. The Amiga CD32 was basically an overpriced console that was made using PC parts. They priced it too high, and that's why it failed. But if they'd cut the price in half and made a better controller for it, then I've no doubt it could have been decent competition for the other gaming console giants of the 90s. XBOX basically did the same thing of being a console made with PC parts. And XBOX is one of the top 3 today. Commodore could have made it work if their management wasn't shit. And if that console had worked out, there's a chance we'd have Amiga or Commodore home video game consoles competing with the others now.

Edited at 2023/02/18 20:14:20

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 00:41:56 No.2253857

Wasn't there an arc in the original run where Sabrina had to send her Amiga to Germany for maintenance or something?

If that was based on something EWS had to do in real life, it wouldn't surprise me.

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 02:08:01 No.2253884

>>2253857
Yeah, her motherboard crapped out. And she had to send it half way around the world to be fixed. And that wasn't even her real Amiga. That was just a franken PC she built to sort of be like a new Amiga. She basically avoided mainstream computers and Windows like the plague.

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 02:17:24 No.2253886

>>2253884
I mean, she's still pretty much doing that to this day only having to get out of her shell when it comes to her day job. At least that's what she says. I don't believe we ever see her use a current Windows, Linux or Mac physically in the comic.

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 05:55:09 No.2253976

>>2253886
EWS seems to have gone out of his way to avoid saying what kind of PC Sabrina uses at work. But in one image Sabrina admitted to having to use Windows, among the other systems she prefers. It really wouldn't surprise me if Sabrina's work computer had to run Windows, since that's a standard most places. And if she did use a different system, she might be the only one in the office. And since ZZ didn't seem to have a problem figuring out how to do things on Sabrina's work computer, However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Windows. More recently Sab even brought in RC to help with the new system. And he's the Windows expert.

All that's really just theory. But it could be true.

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 13:31:17 No.2254133

It's hard to imagine a film company, regardless of the content they produce, intentionally using outdated tech. Especially in the marketing/distributing end of things.

Furrynomous 2023/02/19 16:27:35 No.2254173

>>2254133
My guess is Sabrina's work PC does have to run Windows. But she tries like hell to do any work she possibly can from home on her older off brand PCs. She claimed to still use them professionally. But I bet that only translates to a fraction of her actual work. I wouldn't doubt it though if Sabrina's work station at the studio actually ran more than one computer. I can see her having both a Windows, and a Linux. And she'd probably use the Linux as much as possible before having to use the Windows.

I kinda miss the days of the webcomic where Sabrina chatted with Carli in a chatroom. I wouldn't mind seeing a page of that once and a while.

Furrynomous 2023/02/20 05:35:27 No.2254379

It would make the most sense for Sabrina to use macOS at work. As far as I know Eric doesn't seem to loathe or begrudge Apple products.

Furrynomous 2023/02/20 05:54:16 No.2254386

>>2254379
He also doesn't mention them often, so he probably has an indifferent opinion on Apple as a whole.

Furrynomous 2023/02/20 17:32:01 No.2254512

>>2254379
The odds of Sabrina using Apple/MAC at work are pretty low. She once debated getting a MAC when her franken PC broke. With one even saying "You know you want me" in a window. But she seems to avoid them. I wonder if the reason Sabrina avoids MAC is because it's the easy alternative to Windows. I mean, she went out of her way to use hard to get hardware that was a pain to use/repair. She's like Sheldon Cooper in the Big Bang Theory when he got a new laptop. He said the new one came with Windows 7 instead of Vista. And that Windows 7 was more user friendly, and that he didn't like that. EWS/Sabrina seem like they prefer taking the harder rout out of weird personal preference to avoid mainstream tech. Ego, not using Apple/MAC because it's simply too easy an option to go with.

Edited at 2023/02/20 17:32:54

Furrynomous 2023/02/20 17:35:49 No.2254515

>>2254512
Kind of a hipster move right there. I wonder if that's one of the reasons why she avoids getting a smartphone for herself.

Furrynomous 2023/02/20 18:19:57 No.2254544

>>2254515
With that I imagine it's because EWS prefers to live in a different time. If you watch an anime called: Uncle From Another World, a guy in his 30s came back from an isekai that whisked him away in like 1999. So he went out of his way to get a cellphone that he wanted back in the 90s, even though he can't actually connect it to a network. So he just uses it to talk with spirits.

Furrynomous 2023/02/21 01:14:39 No.2254638

>>2254544
Er Mai Gawd! EWS is da Uncle from anudder wurld!

D_Empress 2023/02/21 01:42:54 No.2254650

Oh, they just did her dirty.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 04:19:25 No.2255163

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From Eric:
>Just a little gloating between sisters.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 04:23:11 No.2255165

A little weird that Sabrina's feeling conflicted about this since in the last storyline she wanted to give out Tabitha's "services" as a recommendation to Carli and Spike while explicitly not telling her young sister about the litter of kids the two have. Maybe it's a small bit of regret seeped in after the moment? Also, does Endora still pester Sabrina for babysitting? Again. Why? Warren never seems to go anywhere as far as we know.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 04:39:46 No.2255174

>>2255163
I just realized that Tabitha has a tablet but not a cellphone. Not even a flip phone. It's like she had a choice between the two as if both parents didn't want to be charged double the cell charges.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 08:30:22 No.2255250

I wish Tabitha wasn't just the annoying kid character. I'm probably the only who feels this since all she's known for is being a pain to everybody, Sabrina mainly, and an audience surrogate to praising Zig Zag as a "cool adult" character.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 10:57:57 No.2255256

I don't understand why EWS decided to add color to the reboot. Not only is he straining himself but it's pointless with these bland, one shade backgrounds.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 12:11:50 No.2255264

>>2255163
Was Sabrina always this bitter smart-ass girl? or i just got hitted hard by Velma's last show?

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 12:42:53 No.2255274

>>2255264
Unlike the Velma show, Sabrina does have a reason to sometimes act like a "bitter smart-ass girl".

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 14:53:30 No.2255303

>>2255256
My guess is that he felt like switching over to Patreon necessitated a bump in quality, ergo, colorization and the switch to portrait orientation.

That being said, I think the flat colors is actually an improvement. If it reduces his strain and helps his throughput I see it as a good thing.

â€˜ Anonymous 2023/02/22 15:23:39 No.2255321

>>2255264
>>2255274
No, I vaguely remember that the little sis is super annoying. The relationship is more/less on how you expect siblings to act.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 15:35:41 No.2255323

>>2255303
And if he takes longer breaks it could also improve the quality of his story writing.

Furrynomous 2023/02/22 15:38:34 No.2255324

>No, I vaguely remember that the little sis is super annoying
She's been annoying since the very beginning of this series. Not sure how that's easy to forget considering that's her entire character. Frankly I hope this storyline will at least show more characteristics of her outside of this one trait now that she's going to receive relentless amounts of karma.

SO/Wrestlemania Story Furrynomous 2023/02/22 21:08:32 No.2255429

>>2255163

Speaking of crashing and burning, whilst still working on my Helen Dish Railroading-B&B story, I came up with another one.

Following a night of wrestling, thanks to some tickets Tina managed to score, ZigZag comes up with a new movie, basing it on wrestling manoeuvres, but during rehearsals nobody has any idea how to wrestle, never mind thinly disguising it as sex. Sadly, Sabrina overreacts when a professional wrestler ZigZag asks to come over a teach them, has ZigZag jackknifed in an arm-lock and hits him over the head with a chair, knocking him out.
To avoid him loosing his chance at winning the cirucit, (and prevent legal proceedings once out of hospital) Sabrina ends up taking his place in the ring - and ZigZag as her tag-team partner!
This later involves Spike having a cameo, and a couple of surprising twists at the end - and one of them is the prize money...

I'll write this up much later, but this is just the general gist of it.

Furrynomous 2023/02/23 02:32:12 No.2255519

>>2255429
No offense, but are u a WWE fan? Cause some parts of your story ideas seem to involve some form of fighting, and/or wrestling.
Dont get me wrong, theyre interesting ideas. Im just noticing a theme is all.

Edited at 2023/02/23 03:42:33

Furrynomous 2023/02/23 17:22:42 No.2255791

>>2255519

In answer to your question, no I'm not. I'm just creative and merely get inspiration from here, there & everywhere...

Furrynomous 2023/02/24 02:05:45 No.2255926

>>2255791
'ight. Keep up the good work. You do you than.

Edited at 2023/02/24 02:10:13

Furrynomous 2023/02/24 03:13:50 No.2255944

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Furrynomous 2023/02/24 03:21:15 No.2255946

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>>2255944

Oddly cute. I could go for more Tabi cosplaying as Sabrina.

Since my request & source post isn't going anywhere, anyone know where this is from?

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 01:34:37 No.2257584

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From Eric:
>All the unearned confidence of a celebrity streamer.

Edited at 2023/02/28 01:35:30

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 01:36:38 No.2257586

Why didn't Sabrina tried saying that her friend had like 13 or 14 children? Yeah there's a chance that Tabitha wouldn't believe her, but it's better than being vague about it.

Edited at 2023/02/28 02:03:51

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 02:05:47 No.2257590

>>2257584
I'd be questioning how Tabitha knows what a VCR is, but I remember she has been a kid since the 90s, so I buy it.

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 05:13:19 No.2257627

>>2257590
Also, with Sabrina for an older sister, there's no way Tabitha wouldn't know what a VCR is

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 16:18:47 No.2257766

Geez. What is it about EWS' writing that makes his characters so unlikeable?

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 17:38:25 No.2257786

>>2257766
That sounds like a description fit for Jay Naylor than Eric W. Schwartz.

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 17:41:57 No.2257790

>>2257766
I blame the fact that very few of them have any actual depth to their development. Most are just made as fanservice fodder, and the rest all have the same handful of personality quirks that make them almost indistinguishable from one another.

EWS also has a very decent and recognizable style, and he has an obvious high level of talent... but he also hasn't *improved* much at all in the 25+ years he's been doing the Sabrina series. The art style looks almost identical to how it did during his early days, and for an artist to not see any amount of measurable improvement after doing a regular series for THAT LONG is kinda... Odd.

A long-winded way to say: EWS has always been a better artist than he is a writer, but not even his art has seen any improvement in 25 years. I think that's the reason I find it hard to get into this new sequel series, despite being a big fan and reader of the original for quite a few years. The characters have aged, but they haven't GROWN.

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 17:58:01 No.2257793

It's been said before in the old thread that Eric either needs a better writer for this series or to just work on a completely different one (Holly & Doug) and let this one just end, but he won't do either since he clearly knows this decades old webcomic is still making him almost as much money as his porn does, so we're just going to get more of the same no matter how much time passes by.

>>2257766
That's what happens when the most you can write besides cute but awkward couple banter is snark and spite. Anything else is kind of bare minimum and the author is a comedy writer first and a story/character writer dead last.

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 18:01:27 No.2257795

>>2257786
Same goes for Kadath

Furrynomous 2023/02/28 20:55:33 No.2257885

>>2257584
Pages like this reminds me that no one actually likes Tabitha. Fans only tolerate her because she's an audience surrogate for praising Zig Zag and she serves as a smartass zoomer that exist to be knocked down a peg.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 00:25:09 No.2257994

>>2257885

Which is actually kind of contradictory when you think about it.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 00:54:56 No.2258005

>>2257994
How so? While not consistent, she still fits the annoying sibling goal of her character.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 02:15:58 No.2258034

>>2258005

EWS uses Tabitha to prop up Zig Zag as awesome and cool. But then he'll turn around and make her this annoying brat embodying parts of the younger generation he doesn't like

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 03:28:31 No.2258051

>>2258034
Oh wow that is just sad. It's like all of his kid characters only exist to be a tool, a joke, a non-presence, or just an inconvenience for others.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 03:28:50 No.2258052

Fans being so unhappy with Tabitha just makes me happy that me and others have other ideas for her in mind. Like Carli and Spike sending the kids away to their grandparents for the night or the pack of kids having a winnie werewolf and the gang going at her like that set of pics by Xennos.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 19:41:35 No.2258270

i never understood why there's so little porn of sabrina and her sister seeing how long this comic has been going on

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 19:52:39 No.2258277

>>2258270
If you're talking about Eric drawing it themselves they have a self-made rule where Sabrina, Tabitha, Richard, Endora and Warren are excluded from his pornographic works entirely. Not even in saucy nudes are they allowed in them.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 20:00:08 No.2258279

Hmmm...

Tabitha - Zoomer brat who adores a porn actress.
Danielle - Perpetually unamused and is attached to their smartphone.
Timmy - Normal toddler who lacks the presence he use to have.
Carli & Spike's pack children - Literal inconvenience
Billy - Emotional punching bag

Yeah. I'm definitely seeing a slight "funny" pattern here.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 20:52:56 No.2258299

>>2258270

For some reason the community just kind of abided by his request to not do anything with the girls.

I get it but at the same time I figured cub artists would just go nuts with Tabi. She's adorable and the setting she's in is just ripe for content and themes. With Sabrina who wouldn't want to see Zig Zag bend her over her office table and test out a new lineup of toys on her?

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 21:25:55 No.2258313

>>2258299
You sure about that with Tabitha? Because I still occasionally run into art depicting her in sexual situations.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 21:31:06 No.2258315

>>2258313

I mean for the most part. You get some outliers but I don't think we get as much as you would probably see considering how long she's been around.

I know firsthand of an artist that took down some art of her he had up on IB not too long ago.

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 22:36:34 No.2258336

>>2258052
>fans
You have an unhealthy obsession with EWS but I wouldn't call you "fans". At least, not in the sense that also means "admirers".

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 23:00:45 No.2258345

>>2258336

Been reading since the early 2000's. Definitely a fan but just want to see more art of Tabi and since she annoys so many people she could be a lot more useful in more ways. art and fanfiction for example

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 23:21:48 No.2258352

>>2258279

Who was Billy in the series? I don't recall him...

Furrynomous 2023/03/01 23:56:23 No.2258366

>>2258345
>just want to see more art of Tabi
then go to the cub board and get it there

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 00:09:21 No.2258369

>>2258352
The child of Helen Dish. I forgot if that was his name or not, but all I do remember him for is that he's mainly used as a punchline for how often Helen is having sex while he's feeling creeped out or humiliated about it.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 00:19:14 No.2258371

>>2258366

Got to keep up with the comic too. You never know when inspiration might hit.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 03:17:38 No.2258451

>>2258369

You mean Bobby.

>>2258270
And originally, EWS used to be a lot more protective of his characters.

He often threatened lawsuits against those who didn't follow his asinine rules regarding fanart. In at least one case, he actually followed through in getting someone's internet service cut-off.

Since then, once the 'net became a mainstream thing, people started drawing more explicit material regarding his characters purely for spite. Especially when it came out that HE was drawing dirty pictures of WB and Sonic characters, some of whom were underage.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 03:24:11 No.2258452

>>2258451
Didn't EWS go by a different username 20+ years ago when they drew smut to hide their identity? But people figured out it was him anyway

Edited at 2023/03/02 03:25:31

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 03:37:37 No.2258454

>He often threatened lawsuits against those who didn't follow his asinine rules regarding fanart. In at least one case, he actually followed through in getting someone's internet service cut-off.

I wonder if he regrets that. At least internally since this is a piece of history long forgotten.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 03:49:39 No.2258460

>>2258452
I could've sworn that couldn't be confirmed nor denied.

Edited at 2023/03/02 03:50:08

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 03:56:29 No.2258461

>>2258451
Surprised he isn't still doing that again since people like Bill Holbrook discerns people from drawing fanart of his characters for legal reasons.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 04:17:44 No.2258466

I think one of the reasons he was so adamant about curbing the porn was a mix of Sabrina being his personal waifu and hopes for a syndication deal.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 04:52:54 No.2258471

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>>2258452

There's the notable porn artist TDK that is incredibly similar to EWS older style. There's a few that look like they border on tentacle rape including a Krystal one where she's definitely forcefully getting stuffed.

This Fifi art is just way too similar to his old work imo for it not to be EWS.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 05:36:04 No.2258486

>>2258466
The deal was having Sabrina Online being a comic strip in Amiga Magazine. Course, we all know how well THAT turned out.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 06:17:39 No.2258519

>>2258466
I could've sworn Zig Zag was Eric's furry waifu.

>>2258486
Yeah. Doesn't really help your wishes for syndication when your enlists actual sex workers as part of the cast.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 13:26:29 No.2258679

Something often forgotten is that Zig Zag and the porn studio weren't part of the original pitch for Sabrina Online.

The first few years of the strip were a basic "Friends" knock-off with a slight hint of "Cathy" and "Dilbert".

It was around 1999-2000 that EWS decided the title character sitting on her duff making old computer jokes wasn't going to have mass appeal.

Sabrina was seen as EWS' ideal woman: she liked what he liked, lived where he lived, etc. Only instead of being an overweight nerd, she was a "cute" girl-next-door type.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 19:11:09 No.2258788

>>2258471

This was long standing drama. During the early parts of sabrina online Eric went on a crusade against anyone doing rule34 of his characters, especially any of Sabrina. He then started to dabble into xxx drawing shortly there after. This mysterious artists unknown artist sprung up out of nowhere doing rule34 drawings of all the tiny room, Animaniacs characters. in the excact art style as Eric, which notably inspired by Warner bro animation. He was then doxxed to have been said unknown artist, called out for his hypocrisy, then the everyone moved on.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 19:53:09 No.2258802

So what made Eric comfortable drawing porn of his chars under his name? He seem to have started somewhere in the late 90s.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 21:01:13 No.2258823

Presumably, once he got called out on it, he decided to roll with it.

Especially since by that point a good chunk of his cast had "works at a porn studio" as their main gimmick.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 21:11:59 No.2258826

>>2258802

He doesn't do xxx pics of certain characters. But as he decided to lean into adult commissions and introducing ZZ studios into the Sabrinaverse he began making his own OCs for the sole purpose of porn. Shelia, stacy/tracey, so on.

But even then, he might have "spicy" drawings if sabrina and certain others, but never full own xxx.

But that was the hypocrisy he was bashed on. He would go irate if people rule34 his waifu, but then would be ok doing rule34 of his own works and that of others. Thus why he created an alias to release his rule34 lewds under until caught.

Furrynomous 2023/03/02 21:42:08 No.2258837

>>2258788
>>2258826
I don't have a problem with artists who don't want to draw suggestive or straight up pornographic art of some of their characters. It's something many artists just can't see them doing to their creations for whatever morality sake that might make them feel uneasy or just uninterested (like with Jay Naylor and his child characters in Original Life). What I don't like is when they try exhibiting that type of prohibiting onto other people drawing rule 34 of their characters at all. It's the internet. You can't stop others from drawing what you can't accept (at least not these days).

Furrynomous 2023/03/03 00:06:50 No.2258868

>>2252179
Time to watch a little girl suffer for her blind arrogance. People do seem to love it when it's children for some reason.

Furrynomous 2023/03/03 02:01:11 No.2258902

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Furrynomous 2023/03/03 08:35:14 No.2259057

>>2258868
There are a variety of reasons people like to see kids get their comeuppance:

1. Because it's a good learning opportunity that everyone gets one way or another in life
2. Because the kid usually deserves it in some way (usually arrogance, and let's face it, calling your big sister to rub it in her face is prime arrogance).
3. Because the situation is usually so absurd that it's fun to watch
4. Because we can relate on some level (see point 1)
5. Because either it'll go exactly as planned, or go terribly off the rails, but end up with things seeming perfectly ordered by the end and we know that trope follows pure chaos. Calling it now: Tabs will be horribly out of her depth, will receive a phone call from Carli at some point to check in on the kids which will be bluffed through (possibly while she's being hog tied and set upon by now tribal painted hoodlums), and at the end of the evening the little ones will all be lying about the living room like perfect angels, worn out from the hours of torturing Tabitha, with her looking worse for wear and greeting Spike and Carli when they return.

Furrynomous 2023/03/03 15:15:15 No.2259120

Meh.

Furrynomous 2023/03/03 20:53:41 No.2259211

>>2258902
Need more giraffes in ZZ Studios

Furrynomous 2023/03/04 02:55:51 No.2259318

>>2258902
>>2259211
This shouldn't be posted here.

Furrynomous 2023/03/04 04:04:23 No.2259340

>>2259318
It's not really a problem dude. People have been giving the "These don't belong" lines in the older thread for years like they'd watched too much Sesame Street. Just move on already.

Furrynomous 2023/03/09 12:58:45 No.2261586

So a new poll for EWS' next project has started.

"Option 1: Skunkettes Stacey and Tracey finally tie the knot, then have a very active honeymoon night, with the help of Zig Zag and the resources of her studio"

Thoughts?

Furrynomous 2023/03/09 15:15:55 No.2261613

>>2261586
The most I can see the main Sabrina cast do in this is be there for the wedding before fucking off because this does not fit in with the webcomic, possible censorship or not. It would just hammer in the fact that the ZZ Studios/FAD characters really don't belong in the Sabrina Online universe with how different of a ratings problem they present, unless they're Holly & Doug where they would fit perfectly as the new awkward nerdy couple in the comic.

Furrynomous 2023/03/10 00:32:38 No.2261743

>>2259340
Is it really too much to ask that threads be kept relatively on-topic? If people want to post style wager art go to the FAD thread.

Furrynomous 2023/03/10 01:12:09 No.2261766

>>2261743
People have been saying that for years. And yet other art still ends up here. If it's related to EWS, Sabrina or Zig Zag, odds are fair it'll end up here. Besides that, it's not even really an issue. It's not like the thread is flooded with nothing but fanart. A side image here and there is no big deal. Just ignore it and move on.

Furrynomous 2023/03/11 01:59:23 No.2262083

>>2257584
Setups like this really does remind me that these comics are basically slightly more down-to-earth sitcom plots. All that's needed is an annoying prerecorded laugh track in the background and it will all be complete.

Furrynomous 2023/03/17 18:33:42 No.2264651

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From Eric:
>Carli is not exactly being the best friend here.

Furrynomous 2023/03/17 21:03:46 No.2264740

>>2264651
Oh she is. This will be an important lesson for Tabitha. If something looks to good to be true, IT USUALLY IS! Someting alot of grown ass people never seem to learn.

Furrynomous 2023/03/17 21:18:34 No.2264747

I wonder what Spike and Carli even do to afford a babysitter on those rates

Furrynomous 2023/03/17 21:29:12 No.2264752

>>2264651
How many private nights of passion does one married couple of 12 or 13 children need? I know A Meeting of Moms made it clear that she likes her offsprings, but pages like this really remind you that her kids are a bothersome annoyance at best and a downright inconvenience at worse.

I guess Sabrina will probably send in Zig Zag to help Tabitha instead of letting her kid sister suffer and learn the actual values and struggles of babysitting.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 01:09:18 No.2264813

Yet another reminder that EWS sees parenthood as an obstacle to booty calls.

Would it be so wrong to SHOW these people actually caring about their kids?

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 01:43:35 No.2264824

Honestly would be a great idea if Carli and Spike got a story where we see their struggles with raising a pack of wolf cubs in their daily lives. They're the most underused characters in the Sabrina Online comic (next to Amy and Thomas) and they deserve more screen time together than in just jokes like this or Carli in a bar talking to Sabrina and Amy about how hard being a parent is for the entire chapter.

More possibilities than this selective draw of appearances and mentions.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 01:49:02 No.2264825

>>2264747
Well we know Spike works as a bouncer. Not sure what Carli does herself besides maybe being a housewife since she can't stream or chat with friends online anymore. Now that I think about it, they should be in more financial straights since they have 13 kids to feed and take care of.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 04:57:43 No.2264868

>>2264825
If I recall, Spike's working as a bouncer in the part where the wives all met up was stated to be temporary as they were starting their own business or something. My guess is Spike wrangles the kids while Carli works from her computer. Prior to that, I'm guessing they had to get government assistance.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 06:46:28 No.2264896

>>2264825
>>2264868
Again. Would probably be fun to see their routines and life with the issues they've been getting. More interesting than technerds barely having to struggle with a phone obsessed baby or a porn studio because the author is far more invested in characters that don't belong and have only one joke going for them.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 10:23:47 No.2264936

As discussed in the previous thread, EWS isn't a "deep" writer.

His style is largely based on the Looney Tunes. One note characters for short, funny one shots. That doesn't usually work for longer narratives. Especially a sitcom.

Heck, probably the only reason he did so much with Zig Zag was because that's Maxâ€™s canonical backstory for her.

If that wasn't there, EWS would have just made her a happy go lucky nymphomaniac without all the baggage.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 10:52:46 No.2264943

>Heck, probably the only reason he did so much with Zig Zag was because that's Max's canonical backstory for her.

Funny part of that is Max never even came up with that backstory for Zig Zag to begin with, if I recall correctly. It was something made up by the fans on some fansite dedicated to her and Max just decided to make that canon to her character even though it really has little effect on anything she does, except for maybe tricking readers into thinking she's deep and complex.

Furrynomous 2023/03/18 11:15:14 No.2264944

The origin of Zig Zag's backstory was from a fanfic called "Zig Zag: the Story". There, she's older and makes it clear alot of her behavior is an act she puts on for the public.

It was largely a way to make her more sympathetic when she hooked up with the author's self-insert OC.

Furrynomous 2023/03/19 19:30:15 No.2265448

>>2264651
Anyone else noticing that the last panel is the most detailed in this comic so far?

Furrynomous 2023/03/19 22:20:42 No.2265531

>>2265448
As detailed as two gradients and an overshadow on a straight faced unamused character can be.

Edited at 2023/03/19 22:25:49

Furrynomous 2023/03/21 05:05:26 No.2266043

>>2264752
probably just once without protection? remember its very common for animals to have more than one kid at a time. heck in some species like rodents and canines 5-10 at a time is pretty common.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 15:58:33 No.2267925

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From Eric:
>Sorry if the three-way conversation is a little hard to follow.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 16:02:21 No.2267926

Could've sworn listening in and talking through another house phone only worked on actual landline phones. Also, this might be the first time Endora appeared in panel in this comic where I didn't want to have a meltdown over. Why couldn't she have just been this: a clueless elderly mother that's weirdly mildly surprised by literally anything she should've already known or learned to look into?

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 17:09:50 No.2267942

>>2267925
Looks like the tough love switch is in the Warren position now.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 17:15:55 No.2267944

>>2267925
He clearly didn't like Tabitha's first babysitting job and attitude towards him.
>>2267942
He and practically everyone else have been saying this since the first page of this chapter.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 20:16:20 No.2267984

>>2267926
Those are landline phones, they are just cordless ones. The principle of "conferencing" is still the same with those.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 20:19:36 No.2267987

>>2267984
Ah. I'm just use to cordless phones doing that since I'm unable to do this with my wireless home phones.

Furrynomous 2023/03/25 23:49:16 No.2268059

So I guess Danielle is out of diapers now.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 00:19:26 No.2268071

And she still has little charm or entertainment to her character like Amy and Thomas' child.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 06:08:53 No.2268159

>>2268071
You kidding? Timmy had more charm than any of the other toddlers. But then again, he was the only toddler at the time. Even so, at least he was more interactive than this kid.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 07:47:35 No.2268187

>>2268071
>>2268159
Danielle really does feel like an afterthought for a cartoon baby. Like it's amazing how easy it is to forget she's even there when the most interaction with her at this point is when Sabs and Richard take away her phone for a short time. The bland flat colored backgrounds and environment have more presence than her.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 07:49:27 No.2268188

>>2267925
Is this tough love or Warren getting back on Tabitha for that snarky line she told him in the last storyline about being an active babysitter? It's honestly more fitting for the latter mostly since he looked pretty steamed by her comment.

Edited at 2023/03/26 08:13:53

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 13:10:17 No.2268263

Is it me, or has Endora gotten thinner?

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 14:59:01 No.2268285

she was a lot thinner at Amy's wedding she looked like an older taller Sabrina

Edited at 2023/03/26 15:07:09

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 17:23:27 No.2268324

Ever feel like characters like Endora don't have a consistent size & weight in their design at all? She's either fat, mostly thin or just Sabrina but with stupider glasses.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 19:35:02 No.2268373

Maybe she lost weight from all the barhopping.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 19:39:20 No.2268375

>>2268373
You don't just lose weight from alcoholism. Maybe she's been hitting the gym off screen. She is always leaving her house to do something private.

Furrynomous 2023/03/26 20:16:11 No.2268385

I was making a joke.

Furrynomous 2023/03/27 00:48:15 No.2268460

>>2268385
I was as well. Guess it didn't come out correctly.

Edited at 2023/03/27 00:50:13

Furrynomous 2023/03/27 05:30:35 No.2268510

>>2267925
You know, whatever happened to that cellphone Sabrina gave Endora way back in the old comic strip years? Like it was only used in one joke (dumping Tabitha on Sabrina to watch because that was the running joke for the longest of times whenever her mother called Sabrina) and was never brought up again. I ask this because no one in that house seems to ever use one.

Furrynomous 2023/03/27 19:27:03 No.2268892

>>2267925
The point of a babysitter is someone responsible is there to KEEP the little tykes from getting hurt. If she's in over her head, that means she can't prevent them from getting hurt. If the little ones fight on the top of a staircase and crack their heads, that's not a learning experience. That's a 'wtf were you thinking leaving a 10 year old to watch a dozen kids?' and a call to CPS for neglegence moment.

Furrynomous 2023/03/27 20:17:11 No.2268916

I'm convinced everyone hates Tabitha and just want her to suffer. Got to justify the shenanigans that will ensue.

Furrynomous 2023/03/28 17:20:55 No.2269276

>>2268916

Some of us do but probably not in the way you're thinking.

Furrynomous 2023/03/28 17:38:54 No.2269283

>>2269276
I meant that for mostly the majority of characters in the comic.

Edited at 2023/03/28 17:39:10

Furrynomous 2023/03/29 01:55:08 No.2269395

>>2268916
On a scale of 1 to 10, Id put tabitha at a 3. Call her an annoying brat all you want, but Ive yet to meet a kid at that age that isnt one. Its pretty much their nature. Even my own kin.

Furrynomous 2023/04/01 06:29:05 No.2270575

I wonder if the original guy who posted the pages on time for free immediately got mad that the old thread got locked because we wanted a new one.

Furrynomous 2023/04/06 18:34:51 No.2272866

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From Eric:
>The age-old tradition of abandoning your child in an uncertain situation.

She's old enough to have her own tablet, but not old enough to have her own smart phone? I guess they still have a limit on what she can and can't do despite how much privilege she allegedly has.

â€˜ Anonymous 2023/04/06 22:10:34 No.2273298

>>2272866
She totally didnâ€™t do any babysitting in her last job if sheâ€™s still relying on her parents to do it. Or that could be her nerves in this scene.

Furrynomous 2023/04/06 22:14:00 No.2273302

This job is either going to make or break Tabitha

Furrynomous 2023/04/08 00:08:04 No.2273808

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i think one ZZ member noone would mind seeing.

(or at least shouldnt)

Edited at 2023/04/08 00:10:18

â€˜ Anonymous 2023/04/08 01:45:44 No.2273823

>>2273808
Off topic, but I would like to see more of her and her husband.

Furrynomous 2023/04/09 02:12:17 No.2274202

More off topic, I would love to see more porn comics with Eric's OCs. Would most likely be better than making 5 different pop culture parody comics that fail to get to the point or satisfy people coming for the porn part of them.

Furrynomous 2023/04/09 15:33:45 No.2274338

Back on topic, I wonder if it's responsible to leave your still underaged kid alone in the dark immediately after dropping them off without seeing them at least get close to the door.

Then again these are the same folks who think throwing a preteen into a dozen of rowdy kids is the same as learning responsiblity, so we're not running with logic here.

Edited at 2023/04/09 17:42:32

Furrynomous 2023/04/09 16:47:53 No.2274373

>>2274338
There's logic, it's just ass-backwards. Less you forget, this underaged kid was allowed to roam around a porn studio, and took part in a couple of "suggestive" photo shots.

Edited at 2023/04/09 16:48:44

Furrynomous 2023/04/09 17:39:29 No.2274378

Also keep in mind that EWS like to emulate shows like "Simpsons" and "Family Guy".

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 03:31:44 No.2274569

>>2274338

This whole story has been poorly designed for Tabitha's well being. This plays out worse and worse for her with each comic he makes.

Between Carli throwing her under the bus and the parents not caring. I have a fic in mind where Carli took the kids for the night and just gift wrapped a babysitter for Spike.

â€˜ Anonymous 2023/04/10 05:05:14 No.2274587

>>2274569
A. It still has just started.
B. This is essentially her first story.
C. That fanfic makes no sense

Edited at 2023/04/10 05:06:10

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 05:53:56 No.2274595

>>2274569
You sound like the kind of person that'd enjoy that horrid cub comic of Tabitha being kidnapped by a dragon

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 06:37:29 No.2274600

>>2274595
That sounds correct. Still waiting on the continuation of that comic. In the meantime a big pent up wolf getting some time with her seems like the best use of her character as of late. She's in over her head, her parents aren't paying attention, it's the perfect storm.

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 09:50:43 No.2274695

>>2274595
Can't believe you had to bring that up. Between the fans that hate her for being a normalish kid and the ones who only like her because she's a Zig Zag fan, there's that other part of the "fanbase" that are just creeps who for some reason think that comic is high art.

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 15:31:58 No.2274773

>>2274600
>She's in over her head, her parents aren't paying attention, it's the perfect storm.
>big pent up wolf getting some time with her
>seems like the best use of her character as of late.

Isn't Tabitha like 11 or 12?

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 15:57:56 No.2274778

>>2274773
dude, look at the site you're on - the fact that at least one person here is aching to see a little girl become the subject of a hatefuck that could genuinely kill her shouldn't be all that surprising

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 17:56:35 No.2274812

>>2274778
It isn't a hatefuck and it's nothing she can't handle. Besides like a proper babysitting job she'll be heavily rewarded.

Furrynomous 2023/04/10 18:54:47 No.2274852

This conversation took a weird turn and I'm not happy about it.

Furrynomous 2023/04/21 22:22:55 No.2278994

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From Eric:
>Here comes that bus Carli was talking about.

Furrynomous 2023/04/21 22:25:13 No.2278997

Why does everyone keep leaving her before she finishes asking for something? It's like they want to avoid the train wreck approaching at terminal velocity.

Furrynomous 2023/04/21 22:45:00 No.2279001

>>2278997
thats_the_joke.jpg

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 08:38:04 No.2279154

>>2278994
You know, the hairstyle and coat makes her look like a tiny 16 year old.

I suddenly feel uncomfortable now that I see it.

Edited at 2023/04/22 08:38:29

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 11:20:03 No.2279215

If it makes you feel better, EWS has drawn 19-year-old Tabitha before, so it's not that bad.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 11:39:05 No.2279218

>>2279154

If seeing a 16 years old girl makes you uncomfortable you got some issues bro.
Unless you're up for the sjw propaganda where underage characters shouldn't be drawn because "omg ur a ped0phile"!!!

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 14:56:15 No.2279251

And then this became a gangrape cub comic...
Come on, you know some one would draw it.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 15:20:13 No.2279254

>>2279215
Oh right. That aged up version of her that Eric's only drawn a handful of times, but does nothing with because that future vision version of herself and the cast was a dumb concept that worked better as a book ending to the series.

Edited at 2023/04/22 15:43:23

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 15:21:48 No.2279255

>>2279251
Probably only on Inkbunny.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 16:46:49 No.2279277

>>2272866
I know why he leaves immediately, but what the hell would Warren have that's important that he can't stay? We never see him work at all. It always felt like he and Endora were living off on retirement money since they have that old Boomer vibe going.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 19:12:12 No.2279325

>>2279277

He's been the most stern out of him, Endora and Sabrina and he did have first hand experience with her being negligent in her babysitting so I guess he really did want to throw her to the wolves. Messed up driving off on your 13 year old kid though even if you're trying to teach a lesson

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 20:09:28 No.2279367

>>2279251

Tabitha surrounded by a bunch of Wolfchilla cubs could easily turn into one of those Winnie Werewolf and her pack pieces from Xennos.

If he's following his old cartoon tropes and ideas she's probably going to be put into a tied up peril situation by the gang of cubs. Just giving those types of fans material to work with.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 22:00:26 No.2279402

>>2279277
Warren is a boomer, but he rarely gets time alone at home with his wife. We can dream he's home fucking her right now. Or it might be like this https://youtu.be/qE9R_ppEs7g?t=11

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 22:12:15 No.2279405

>Or it might be like this https://youtu.be/qE9R_ppEs7g?t=11

I wonder what the Christian version of that would be considering that's what those two lean into the most.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 23:15:11 No.2279411

Given previous strips, Warren probably thinks of Sheila or Zig Zag when he's getting frisky with Endora.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 23:54:58 No.2279418

>>2279411
Wouldn't be surprised that the "old fart" (his words not mine) probably has to in order to screw his stuck-up/slightly absentminded wife.

Furrynomous 2023/04/22 23:56:05 No.2279419

>>2279402
Maybe this time he'll remember to wear protection to avoid another accident like Tabitha.

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 00:29:30 No.2279442

>>2279411

In a perfect world we'd have Zig Zag plowing Endora bent over a desk in her studio office with a thick strap on toy.

Maybe put a few drinks in the older skunk to get her to loosen up a bit.

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 00:48:31 No.2279471

>>2279442
Zig Zag is the queen of failed opportunities and chances when it comes to that skunk family. Then again she's trying to have normal friends for once that didn't involve reaping any benefits.

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 04:39:34 No.2279730

>>2279471

You're right it's just a shame she didn't get a chance with either of them. Sabrina's the one that got away and as much as I'd like to see her absolutely dom Endora we all know there wasn't a chance in hell between those two.

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 07:48:45 No.2279836

>>2279419
I doubt that's a worry anymore. Endora is probably well into menopause. And the odds of a woman getting pregnant after menopause are pretty low if almost non existent for most. Besides, I doubt EWS would throw another sibling for Sabrina into the mix at this stage unless they were adopted

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 15:31:33 No.2279989

>>2279442
>>2279730
Why not commission someone to draw Endora in the situations you want to see and get it out of your system? Otherwise you're just reminding everyone about your fetish again.

Furrynomous 2023/04/23 16:40:35 No.2279999

>>2279989
working on it but I'm already running an idea past an artist for another member of the family.

Furrynomous 2023/04/24 18:42:49 No.2280417

>>2278994
It's amazing how these guys keep their house clean despite having thirteen rowdy kids.

Furrynomous 2023/04/24 21:36:17 No.2280479

>>2280417
You make a good point. My sister had three and her house looked like shit

Furrynomous 2023/04/25 05:01:43 No.2280657

Whose willing to bet theres the classic kids+sugar=berserk trope coming up.

Furrynomous 2023/04/25 08:17:34 No.2280686

>>2280657
Oh no! I just realized the two never really gave Tabitha much to work with besides the being firm advice. Another reason I won't be surprised this night goes horribly wrong.

Furrynomous 2023/04/25 11:06:29 No.2280721

Carli is clearly not the "obsessive mom type" who gives a list of allergies, likes, etc.

The kids are less individuals and more The Horde.

Furrynomous 2023/04/28 21:27:59 No.2282218

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From Eric:
>"When confronted by dangerous animals, try to make yourself appear as large and intimidating as possible."

Furrynomous 2023/04/28 21:37:40 No.2282220

>>2282218

Saved by her natural defence instincts...

...and just wait till those kids ever meet ZigZag. Then they'll see if skunks are stupid(!)

Furrynomous 2023/04/28 23:24:26 No.2282238

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Furrynomous 2023/04/29 00:34:26 No.2282252

>>2282218
Establish dominance quickly

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 01:32:17 No.2282271

>>2282218
This is going to be a long evening.

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 06:27:29 No.2282319

>>2282220
That or Sabrina depending on if she wants to intervene at all.

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 09:32:17 No.2282338

Looks like we have a new Bobby for the fans to hate.

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 15:30:20 No.2282478

>>2282218
Didn't establish their names, their likes and dislikes, their behavior patterns, or what to do if a major emergency comes up. I don't care if these guys operate on a horde-mindset or that the parents were worried if the babysitter would've bailed out knowing what they'd be dealing with. This level of neglectfulness on any sort of detail even when the babysitter arrives is spelling the same disaster as the rest.

Edited at 2023/04/29 15:32:07

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 15:36:30 No.2282487

Are we back on the "racist" allegory too?

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 15:38:31 No.2282488

>>2282487
Definitely not. Just a kid being a kid.

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 16:42:33 No.2282498

>>2282478
it's a sitcom as a furry comic - you might want to relax

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 17:57:47 No.2282518

>>2282498
Not really getting the furry part of your excuse, but whatever. Bad sitcoms will be that way.

Furrynomous 2023/04/29 22:35:12 No.2282645

>...and just wait till those kids ever meet ZigZag. Then they'll see if skunks are stupid(!)

Yyyeeaahh, I don't think ZZ or any skunk from the studio would be a good example to disprove that.

Furrynomous 2023/04/30 03:28:47 No.2282706

>>2282218
You all have to admit. These are some really good designs for chinchilla-wolf hybrids.

Furrynomous 2023/04/30 11:24:35 No.2282980

>>2282645

Zig Zag would just make the kid watch her have a threesome with his parents, then rub his face in it.

Furrynomous 2023/04/30 19:06:07 No.2283112

>>2282706
I've been calling them wolf-chillas and yes they are cute, even the bratty brother.

Furrynomous 2023/04/30 20:19:13 No.2283141

>>2282980
Thanks. I ALMOST forgot that shit with Bobby was even a thing. Man, I hate Zig Zag.

Furrynomous 2023/05/01 06:09:49 No.2283342

That troll rampage and milf traumatic child disorder event is still on many user's minds? At this point, it's nothing but a plain running gag. Not like that was the worse thing Zig Zag's done compared to the other ones (stalking, attempted rape, harrassment, etc).

Furrynomous 2023/05/01 14:59:51 No.2283431

>>2283342
Which image do you mean? I can't remember?

Furrynomous 2023/05/01 17:23:11 No.2283544

>>2283431

page 565 of Sabrina Online, where Zig Zag is on her revenge world tour because people were saying mean things about her on a forum.

One of the mean people was a kid named Bobby. Zig Zag fucked his mom and rubbed it into his face. Then it became a bit of a repeated joke of Bobby's mother hooking up with Zig Zag, either in commissioned pics, or pin-ups. Sometimes we get to Bobby's reaction.

Furrynomous 2023/05/01 17:32:30 No.2283546

That's not really a running gag, though.
Has Helen even appeared in the strip since?

Furrynomous 2023/05/01 18:04:03 No.2283556

>>2283546
No. Only exclusively in a prequel porn comic during that rampage arc and other lewd pinups featuring her. She's less of a character and more of a milf that exist to chase thrills and be drilled into.

It kind does feel like a running joke whenever Eric remembers that kid. It's pretty much what he's synonymous for.

Edited at 2023/05/01 18:04:09

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 01:28:15 No.2283694

Didn't Eric confirm that Zig convinced Helen to join the studio and become a porn star. I'm pretty sure I remember reading about that somewhere. It said that Bobby was annoyed that his friends know who is mom is and what she does, but he is glad that she is happy doing what she likes. Which seems to me like a cop-out to make what Zig did seem not that bad, and that in the end she did them both a favor. If that was Eric's goal, turn that into a situation where Zig looks good, then I can say with 100% certainty that he failed.

Also, I wonder what story arc he plans to do next. This seems like it's going to get old fast. Though if the next thing is about Zig then I have no problem waiting. I know it's unlikely, but I'm hoping for an interest story plot. Maybe a time jump. How much more is there to do with Daniel as a tech-addicted baby who can barely talk, and constantly has her nose stuck in her phone as her only character traits? Gets old fast.

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 02:15:33 No.2283717

>>2283694
I think I recall in January Eric said along with Horde-sitting he's planned out a story that focuses on ZZ Studios. So yeah. Another Zig Zag story. This guy really just can't stay away from that place or those characters long enough without going through withdrawl.

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 04:09:59 No.2283782

>>2283694
That would be Helen's bio on the FAD site. And yeah, it is total bullshit.
>It said that Bobby was annoyed that his friends know who is mom is and what she does, but he is glad that she is happy doing what she likes.
Yeah, that may sound great. But is her new found happiness really worth it if Bobby has to go through constant humiliation, mental abuse, or the possibility of developing a complex?

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 05:09:09 No.2283815

damn, y'all care way too much about what is effectively a gag character

it's just furry porn, you should really just relax

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 06:58:09 No.2283868

>>2283815
So is Mr. Poopybutthole. Yet there are nearly countless debates, theories, and hedcanons of him from multiple platforms. People just like to vent.

Edited at 2023/05/02 07:00:29

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 07:01:57 No.2283870

>>2283815

Don't be hypocritical. you know you get the same way when it's something you like, and you won't shut up about it.

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 10:48:16 No.2283909

I believe the next story arc will be about Stacy and Tracy getting married. Whether that will be completely a porn comic or not remains to be seen.

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 11:16:53 No.2283913

>>2283909
That's a porn comic. Heck. Eric had a comic poll months ago where it won in the second quarter.

Furrynomous 2023/05/02 11:26:54 No.2283918

He COULD use the regular strip to actually give insight into their relationship besides the FAD profiles.

Furrynomous 2023/05/06 16:38:06 No.2285959

If only we could count how many times Eric has missed an opportunity to not only flesh out his characters, but to also keep their development consistent that doesn't get in the way of him making jokes about their base characteristics and existence.

Furrynomous 2023/05/06 21:08:30 No.2286036

>>2285959
again: it's a comic strip version of a sitcom - if you're really expecting character growth beyond what you'd see in Friends or The Big Bang Theory, you're setting the bar way too high

Furrynomous 2023/05/06 22:21:41 No.2286051

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From Eric:
>I've gone through three different generations of Android tablets over the years, and my first one from about 2012 was the only one I ever had that could 'take a punch', surviving multiple drops, including a couple onto asphalt/concrete. Not like these modern thin & light marvels, which crack the glass if you cough loudly in the same room as them.

Furrynomous 2023/05/06 22:36:23 No.2286056

And I thought smart phones were fragile. These tablets can't even survive a simple drop or sudden slam to the ground.

Furrynomous 2023/05/06 23:03:43 No.2286061

>>2286036
There's nothing high standards about expecting actual development with one's characters in a sitcom-ish setting. Not sure who made that a rule that there wouldn't be. When you see a comic and the author talk or act like they've learned their lessons from the past yet they aren't, of course people like me are going to point it out.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 00:15:48 No.2286071

lets be honest: if a kid openly slams your tech on the ground and breaks it intentionally, you would beat that kids ass with no remorse

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 00:43:32 No.2286076

>>2286056
Being violently throw to the ground is hardly simple.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 00:44:13 No.2286077

>>2286051

So the kid's mom will now owe the money for the babysitting gig. Plus, the cost of a new tablet.

Judging by the kids' behavior, their parents are those types that don't believe in punishments. So the little hellions get to run about and do what they want and then only get a talking to. Or maybe at worst a time-out.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 02:20:37 No.2286093

>>2286051
Looks like Carli and Spike have yet to teach their little hobgoblin kids how to actually respect other's stuff and not touch everything they see. Starting to get the real impression that they get blacklisted from babysitters for their kids' behavior than just being thirteen of them.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 02:21:33 No.2286094

>>2286071
Other options is to scream/yell at them or to their parents for the poor behavior of the tykes.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 02:44:41 No.2286097

>So the kid's mom will now owe the money for the babysitting gig. Plus, the cost of a new tablet.

Pretty sure the money from the babysitting gig will be just enough for the tablet. And if not, maybe she'll get a smart phone for just having to deal with this crap for a whole night.

Just realize something. Is this a school night? Because man that would inconvenient for Tabitha's stress levels if she won't be allowed to sleep a whole day after this mess.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 02:48:30 No.2286099

>>2286061
>There's nothing high standards about expecting actual development with one's characters in a sitcom-ish setting.
there kind of is - sitcoms aren't bastions of deep character development and storytelling

> When you see a comic and the author talk or act like they've learned their lessons from the past yet they aren't, of course people like me are going to point it out.
tell me you've never paid attention to sitcoms without telling me you've never paid attention to sitcoms

the whole point of sitcoms is that they're largely not about long-term change and personal growth of the characters - they're largely about "ha ha, funny thing happen"

when Will went from high school to college in Fresh Prince, he didn't change in the sense that his personality changed - he was still Will, just in a new setting

to put it bluntly: you're expecting The Wire from Seinfeld

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 03:00:26 No.2286102

I know the whole plot is Tabitha learning a lesson about how hard a job it is to be a babysitter, but you all have to admit that at this point she's just being set up to fail.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 03:51:07 No.2286116

Trial by fire as they say

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 04:44:57 No.2286125

>>2286116
I think that only works if she had actual skills for the job. Something we all know she doesn't have.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 14:11:57 No.2286388

>>2286099

The thing is, this comic ACTS like it's a long running narrative with deep introspection, character development, etc.

There are plenty of times where the comic says stuff like "We're not the stereotypes the mainstream says we are!" and "Boy, you sure have changed!" etc. but then falls back on "Just kidding! We're a goofy 90s sitcom!"

EWS wants it both ways here. He wants the kinds of praise "Omaha the Cat Dancer" got back in the day. Sure it had smutty moments, but there was a plot (granted a cliched soap-opera-styled one, but still)

While at the same time, he wants to indulge in Looney Tunes-esque stuff that really doesn't mesh well with the "real world rules" he tries to reference.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 16:57:31 No.2286457

> "Omaha the Cat Dancer"
What an appropriate reference considering this webcomic's way to including smutty juvenile humor is through the sex workers in ZZ Studios. A bigger slap to the face in execution when Eric both wants them to be nothing but mostly unfunny sex jokes while at the same time trying to write them as "they aren't just what society demonizes sex workers to be".

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 17:03:33 No.2286474

>>2286388
You explained it better than me. The fact that the characters keep trying to have some level of introspection and rules to their world is why I can't just write it off as "it's a sitcom. Don't get invested in it". I know it likes to act like a mundane sitcom/cartoon in comic format, but it also wants to be down to Earth and humanizing in its characters. The rules are just whatever Eric wants it to be with little pattern.

Edited at 2023/05/07 17:09:42

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 18:48:13 No.2286574

>>2286474
>The fact that the characters keep trying to have some level of introspection and rules to their world is why I can't just write it off as "it's a sitcom. Don't get invested in it". I know it likes to act like a mundane sitcom/cartoon in comic format, but it also wants to be down to Earth and humanizing in its characters.
so do sitcoms

but you're forgetting the key to this whole argument: the whole point of a sitcom is to drop a few broadly drawn characters into a situation and find the comedy in how well the characters can handle the situation; long-term character growth is anathema to sitcoms

sure, things can change with the broad strokes - families can welcome babies and adults can switch jobs and all that - but the characters themselves don't tend to grow or change all that much because of the need to preserve their personalities and quirks and whatnot for the purposes of comedy

hell, you can argue that the point of a sitcom (or any form of episodic storytelling, really) is to keep everyone miserable so there's always a problem to be solved or a lesson to be learned by the end of the episode - just look at how everyone hated everyone else on (ironically enough) "Everybody Loves Raymond"

you're expecting serialized long-term character-driven storytelling from a comic strip equivalent of ABC's mid-80s TGIF lineup, and you're never going to get it

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 23:37:15 No.2286752

>>2286051
Great. Now she'll have to rely on that old ass flip phone to play Snake or Tetris, unless that ends up getting destroyed as well. Come to think about it, Carli and Spike have a house phone, so there really isn't any need to have her borrow Warren's cell. Also, I'm surprised he has a cell phone considering we never see him or Endora using one to my recollection (besides that one joke with Endora using the one Sabrina gave her once). It's always using the house phone even on mundane short calls.

Furrynomous 2023/05/07 23:38:31 No.2286753

>>2286051
They are going to test her patience and either break her down or be the first to succeed where the other 'sitters failed.

Furrynomous 2023/05/08 03:11:58 No.2286783

I kind of wonder if Tabitha might actually end up skunk spraying if she's pushed too far and stressed out by these little demons.

More than likely I think she's going to call Sabrina to bail her out and they might have a heart to heart?

Furrynomous 2023/05/08 19:05:22 No.2287088

So wait, when the fuck is there going to be any sex stuff in this? Who's gonna be showcased having sex? The parents, I hope. And if not then shouldn't this be on a different board?

Furrynomous 2023/05/08 19:15:02 No.2287091

>>2287088

Do all comics in this section have to have sexual content in them? More than likely we'll just see Spike and Carli after they had some alone time together.

I assume it's going to be a clean comic like Skunk's day out.

Furrynomous 2023/05/08 19:41:58 No.2287095

Guys. The whole comic is PG-13, and even then pretty safe for work in general. I don't know how anyone would think there's going to be any porn in this at all.

Edited at 2023/05/08 19:56:04

Furrynomous 2023/05/08 21:55:39 No.2287130

im gonna be honest, Tabitha hasnt been in the house for longer than an hour and i already feel sorry for her. If i were her i would call the parents and tell them the price just went up.

Furrynomous 2023/05/09 00:07:45 No.2287204

>>2287130
Can a babysitter even do that? Bribe or bargain the parents to raise the payment of their services?

Furrynomous 2023/05/09 02:07:58 No.2287242

The babysitter from "Calvin and Hobbes" did it all the time.

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 05:39:34 No.2289367

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From Eric:
>Tabitha doesn't have a lot of experience being an authority figure.

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 05:55:11 No.2289372

>>2289367
Woah! These kids are like five to seven years old and yet that one pup has the body of a small mid-40 year old man? You know, maybe Amy did luck out with Timmy being small when he came out.

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 11:12:45 No.2289429

>>2289367
Looks like she's already caving in to the pressure. Maybe this is the part where she calls for help after admitting how hard babysitting really is.

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 11:41:33 No.2289455

Wasn't there a gag strip or something of Carli post-delivery of this massive baby?

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 12:12:19 No.2289457

>>2289455
I thought that was a non-canon what-if joke.

Furrynomous 2023/05/13 19:28:53 No.2289597

>>2289367
This is starting to feel more like Tabitha fell into an episode of Loud House.

Furrynomous 2023/05/14 06:54:41 No.2289819

Babysitting can be either easy or hard depending on the child . In this case Tabitha has to put up with a platoon of unruly little hellspawn that should have gotten disciplined by the belt . So for her this like playing a game on impossible difficulty

Furrynomous 2023/05/14 07:52:44 No.2289823

There had to be at least some discipline given out by Carli and Spike otherwise how else would this house look surprisingly clean. I mean, where's that talk about one of them having to become the responsible adult and properly raise 13 kids that was mentioned two stories ago?

Furrynomous 2023/05/14 21:51:06 No.2290083

>>2289367

I look at Augie there and all I can see is this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOv1Bleom-M

Furrynomous 2023/05/14 22:06:37 No.2290095

>>2290083
Knowing Eric, that was probably the aim.

Furrynomous 2023/05/24 02:19:42 No.2294480

Surprised there hasn't been an update yet. Just how bad could this job go for Tabitha?

Furrynomous 2023/05/24 23:24:53 No.2295069

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From Eric:
>When there's tons of kids...

>in your neighborhood...

>Who ya gonna call?

Furrynomous 2023/05/24 23:38:51 No.2295088

>>2252865

3 months ago.

Edited at 2023/05/24 23:41:16

Furrynomous 2023/05/24 23:40:00 No.2295089

>>2252865

3 months ago.

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 00:24:45 No.2295124

"I can't tell her! Then she'd think I couldn't handle this job!"

She already thought that before. The results right now won't change anything.

>3 months
At least Eric is smart enough (so far) to only keep her in brief. Hate the fact that the Sabrina Online patrons still think this is development for Zig Zag somehow despite the fact that this is the same "talk to your family" advice given to Tabitha way back in that 'Skunks Day Out' story.

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 12:26:23 No.2295388

Fans seem to like Zig Zag's new friend. So at least the character roster might expand a little.

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 13:45:10 No.2295401

>>2295388
Wouldn't bet on it. Remember how rarely Eric uses his other cast members? Hard to say he'll even use this new randos for a porn comic, which is sad since I want one with that beaver cop.

Edited at 2023/05/25 13:45:32

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 16:44:54 No.2295489

>>2295069

Talk about bad timing(!) Least ZigZag's partner had the decency to be quiet throughout the phone call, and she herself seems to have great control over her love-making (unlike in p2 of the "Curse of the Were-Colleen" comic by el-loko)...

...still, it could've been worse...

Speaking of which, when do YOU think is the worst time to receive a phone call?

a) After just getting into a bath
b) Just as you're going to sleep after getting home from abroad, and suffering from jet-lag.
c) Early in the morning (like 2AM) when you're fast asleep and you have to go downstairs in dressing gown and morning wood to answer it.
or, in ZigZag's case
d) When you're in the middle of sex and about to climax or have someone shoot their load into you?

...and all each time, you believe it to be bad news, or those annoying an persistent cold-callers or inaudible phone-salesfolk trying to enquire about your computers, phone service, lofts, or sell you medical insurance you don't need....

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 18:49:53 No.2295582

>>2295069
Guess she has no choice but to call Sabrina, though it would be funny if she called her own mother and asked her how she dealt with raising Tabitha herself.

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 19:57:50 No.2295597

Why doesn't Spike just get a vasectomy already

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 21:10:05 No.2295615

>>2295597
Probably the same reason Carli won't get her tubes tied: shit's expensive. Plus they've already been to the hospital enough times with how much Carli got injured due to past sexual activities with Spike.

Furrynomous 2023/05/25 23:47:09 No.2295663

>>2295615
Vasectomies can cost up to 490 if you have good insurance. The most you'd pay without it is 3000

Furrynomous 2023/05/26 02:20:06 No.2295717

Actually didn't expect Zig to be sitting this one out.

So who do you think Tabi's going to have a heart to heart with? Her mom or Sabrina?

Furrynomous 2023/05/26 02:53:10 No.2295730

>>2295717
Definitely Sabrina.

Furrynomous 2023/05/26 05:18:54 No.2295798

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Furrynomous 2023/05/30 02:05:06 No.2297981

>>2295069
Now that I think about it, isn't that flip phone Warren's? I'm assuming Tabitha just typed Zig's number into her own tablet just in case she's near an actual phone to call her favorite bad influence of an adult friend.

Furrynomous 2023/05/30 02:06:55 No.2297982

>>2295069
As "cute" as it is that she remembered to call Zig Zag, being that she's such an expert with watching kids, I'm surprised she didn't try her parents first. Unless she's worried that she won't be able to get a smart phone if she relies on them to help her out.

Furrynomous 2023/05/30 02:11:08 No.2297984

I wonder if it was a bad idea to make a new thread for this comic. Rarely anyone posts any new pages early in here like they did for the old one, almost like whoever originally did was petty about it.

Furrynomous 2023/05/30 13:36:50 No.2298193

>>2297984
so what

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 18:30:58 No.2298741

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From Eric:
>There are only so many other skunks Tabitha could call.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 18:35:15 No.2298744

Wait. Has Tabitha always been like that? Lazy? Yes. Entitled? Sorta. A manipulator? Hard no. She's mostly privileged as far as I can tell with how much freedom her parents give her compared to Sabrina back when she was her younger sister's age.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 18:59:42 No.2298751

Guess EWS wants to lean into the "Tabitha is mini-Zig Zag" idea lots of fans seem to have.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 19:07:34 No.2298757

>>2298751
That really doesn't fit her. Would fit better with Sabrina instead since she actually has spent enough time near Zig Zag to develop a manipulative streak. Tabitha mainly just worships Zig Zag as some cool adult who controls boys with her breasts.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 20:51:15 No.2298780

>>2298757
How is Sabrina a manipulator? If anything, she and her husband have been one of the more grounded characters in the comic.
Working with ZigZag has only forced her to adapt to avoid Zig's advances/avoid a debut in one of her adult film shoots.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 22:00:40 No.2298809

>>2298780

yeah, that sounds confusing.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 22:07:37 No.2298811

There was that arc in the original run where she arranged RC and Warren to tour the studio with her to make sure they behaved

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 22:28:54 No.2298834

>>2298780
I know, but I'm just saying Eric has better chances of writing Sabrina as a Zig Zig-esque trickster than a literal child who originally was written to be a Tiny Toons character.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 22:30:19 No.2298835

>>2298811
Sounds pretty reasonable since ZigZag has been known to have rather grabby hands.
There is a comic where she ravishes her hairstylist. If anything sending them in without someone to act as interference would seem more careless, asking to get romped.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 22:48:42 No.2298842

>>2298811
Reminds me. Richard's been to the studio before, yet in that terrible Toy Story, Too storyline acts like it's still a new experience to be in. Consistency is not a clear cut concept for Eric.

Furrynomous 2023/05/31 23:28:33 No.2298848

>>2298741
The rare times the two aren't annoying or sniping each other.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 00:11:27 No.2298860

>>2298741
Guess it was only a matter of time before the word "Entitled" got thrown around. I wonder if they'll say Karen soon too?

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 00:24:11 No.2298872

>>2298860
I'm surprised it wasn't directed towards Endora.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 00:45:29 No.2298875

>>2298872
Endora used to be a Karen. Now she's just a Boomer

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 02:00:31 No.2298900

>>2298875
I find it hard to tell the difference, especially when Karens are applied to anyone regardless of generation. Honestly, I'm assuming Sabrina calling Tabitha "entitled" is just a continuation of the young skunkette's Zoomer characteristics being thrown at us and her. Doesn't really make your main character look good when they're just copying asshole boomer speak.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 02:10:19 No.2298903

>>2298900
While I agree, Endora doesn't show much of the behavior she used to. She seemed to let go the last bit of it around the time her granddaughter was born. If anything, she seems like she's trying to makeup for lost time in her life by hanging with Zig Zag. Were she not a married woman, I bet she'd have gone cougar

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 05:08:57 No.2298936

If the definition of a Karen is " pejorative term used as slang for a woman perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal", than doesn't it seem to fit ZZ more than Endora? Not to mention that out of the two of them, ZZ's the one that's easily triggered.

Edited at 2023/06/01 05:18:44

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 07:37:51 No.2298979

>>2298936
Zig Zag is more of a Brittany than a Karen. ZZ doesn't act entitled, nor does she have the speak to the manager Karen attitude. What she does have is a penchant for being aggressive with hecklers, easily gets physical with anyone she's believed wronged her or her friends, tries to both look and act younger than she is, and openly encourages a work environment that'd get most offices sued. So yeah, she's more of a Brittany. It's kinda in between Karen and Pre-Madonna. That said, you also have to consider ZZ's background. She's a very self made woman in her industry that dealt with terrible parents (Her father especially), owns her own studio, and is completely friendly and casual in her work environment. She also seems to know business fairly well despite not having any formal education on it.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 08:17:29 No.2298983

>>2298979
Most of it is also helped by the fact she has Tina doing the grunt work as well. Then again the comic isn't based on reality, so how that studio stays in business for so long without being affected by some of Zig Zag's shenanigans is left up to imagination.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 13:42:33 No.2299054

I'd say Zig Zag acts a LITTLE entitled at times. There have been moments in the strip when she expects people to bend over backwards for her or let her skirt the rules. And when she doesn't get her way, she'll use her body to ensure it happens.

And let's not get started on her attitude on Freedom of Speech.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 16:17:21 No.2299079

>>2299054
Freedom of speech doesn't apply to Zigzag as she isn't the government or her operations aren't run by the government.
Your assuming freedom of speech means you can day what you want whenever you want. That's not true.

Freedom of speech, allows for protest and gives you the right to speak out against your government without persecution.

Freedom of speech, however isn't Freedom to defame.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 21:26:28 No.2299206

>>2299079
It would be hypocritical to say you have freedom of speech, and then blanket ban or cancel someone from all important public platforms on the point of them being technically private. Freedom of speech protects you from systematic suppression, whether it's by the government or someone else.

Otherwise governments could skirt around the freedom of speech issue by having someone else do the censorship. Likewise, some other party besides the government can be suppressing speech, such as in a theocracy where the church is more powerful than the state, or in a society where powerful special interest groups are trying to de-platform their opposition by threatening the owners of publishing platforms and venues.

Edited at 2023/06/01 21:32:41

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 21:59:43 No.2299238

>>2299079
Lemme explain something to you. Government is downstream of culture. It's that simple. If the culture becomes pro-corpo and thinks they can trust social media companies to decide right from wrong... two or three generations later, you have a voting body and a representative body who is willing to repeal the freedom of speech protections. You might think it's okay if your political persuasion is the dominant power atm but keep in mind, a coup can happen... and the general population will already be psychologically adjusted to accept authoritarian control and oppressive social climates and the boot falls upon you. We're on the road to a cyberpunk future so long as we don't hold our rights as important both versus the government, and one another.

>>2299206
This. Government isn't supposed to even approach the question of being caught enlisting a third party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F

Edited at 2023/06/01 22:04:24

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 22:02:52 No.2299240

>>2298741
Too bad Carli and Spike didn't leave Tabitha their numbers. Must be intentional. Double bad for Tabby in not having Amy and Thomas' numbers as well, though that's probably from the fact that she wasn't really that close to either of them to begin with.

Edited at 2023/06/01 22:03:13

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 22:08:37 No.2299242

I said I wanted to avoid this this discussion...

Bear in mind that (at least this version of her) Zig Zag ISN'T some random nobody who posts homemade videos online etc. She's a world-famous celebrity millionaire.

Comedians have been taking the piss out people like her for centuries.

As it's been said dozens of times before: the Looney Tunes, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, the Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy and MILLIONS of stand-up comics have roasted celebrities/politicians/religious figures. (Hell Animaniacs did a skit featuring the baby Jesus for F-sake).

Are you suggesting THESE people should be locked up too because they bruised an ego or two?

Edited at 2023/06/01 22:18:48

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 22:13:28 No.2299244

>>2299240
She might need to rectify that if 19 Year Old Tabitha plans to get busy with Legal-Age-Timmy in the future.

Furrynomous 2023/06/01 22:37:49 No.2299264

>>2299244
IF she decides to continue babysitting as a career and doesn't blacklist this family like the rest. Frankly, Tabitha shouldn't be taking this job considering she's not even 16 right now.

Edited at 2023/06/01 22:40:59

Furrynomous 2023/06/02 04:59:37 No.2299411

>>2298936
>>2298979
I thought ZZ would be more of a Stacy, considering she's an attractive woman who is rude, vain, and only interested in sex.

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 01:16:42 No.2300108

>>2298872
>>2298875
>>2298900
>>2298903

Let's all be grateful that Eric never did a story where Endora is taught how to use a computer which leads her to make a Facebook account and doing what embarrassing racist family members do and say on a social media platform like Facebook.

Edited at 2023/06/04 02:04:03

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 01:33:42 No.2300119

>>2300108
Like "maybe raccoons shouldn't burn down cities and kill people when a criminal dies from drugs while resisting arrest", and similarly embarrassing things.

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 02:57:50 No.2300150

>>2300119
Sheesh. If that happened it would take a lot more than befriending some sex worker to redeem anything about her. You'd have to retcon her entirely to fix her at all.

Edited at 2023/06/04 10:05:37

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 09:31:09 No.2300399

It probably helps that EWS seems to hate modern internet trends like social media.

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 11:18:01 No.2300458

>>2300399
I mean most social media is brain poison that is ruining our society so he's not wrong there.

Furrynomous 2023/06/04 20:49:40 No.2300710

>>2300399
So he hates modern internet trends, yet loves to make references to whatever's popular like any current memes making their rounds. Nothing wrong with memes, but this must take some form of compromise.

Edited at 2023/06/04 21:09:08

Furrynomous 2023/06/07 13:04:02 No.2302368

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From Eric:
>Dialing that self-confidence back up a tiny bit.

Furrynomous 2023/06/07 13:12:50 No.2302370

I can't believe that threat still works on kids.

Furrynomous 2023/06/07 17:53:06 No.2302527

>>2300458
Considering the aforementioned city burning and people killing was caused by internet misinformation, it's probably better if their world doesn't have it.

Furrynomous 2023/06/07 20:02:20 No.2302617

>>2302368
Kid should've led in with telling his father since we all know Spike is the intimidating one.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 01:50:06 No.2302730

>>2302368

Doesn't look like Mungo there is going for it in that last panel. Still, why out of the horde of kids, why does he look like that?

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 02:24:37 No.2302739

>>2302730

I think the ratty faced one in the last panel is supposed to be the big one. Carli and Spike's genetics took a nose dive with that one.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:09:50 No.2302815

>>2302730
>>2302739
That kids is going to get teased for the rest of his school life. Though on the plus side some will be mildly scared of his size, so the bullying part will probably be a non-issue.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:11:24 No.2302816

>>2302368
Can skunks even spray on command or do they have to feel threatened to do so? Asking because these toon skunks rarely ever do it.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:18:45 No.2302820

ITT: we overanalyze every breath or move from EWS.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:29:47 No.2302823

Have to since there's so little to talk about in a lot of these pages. Even some of Eric's descriptions have little to say for any of these.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:30:14 No.2302824

>>2302816

They can do it on command if they feel threatened but it takes a lot out of them physically to do so.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:53:22 No.2302826

>>2302824
I imagine it's something like this https://youtu.be/yeonXogk2jQ?t=43

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 05:59:47 No.2302828

>>2302824
So it's not an empty threat after all.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 06:08:53 No.2302829

>>2302370
I can't believe those kids didn't get bored of Tabitha waiting in the bathroom and just trashed the house.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 10:55:40 No.2302913

>>2295069
Eric really can't have a Sabrina Online chapter not featuring Zig Zag in any capacity. Well at least she's limited to one appearance.

>>2298741
I don't know how being a lazy, entitled, child (all of which are things Tabitha never was before) is the key to getting through this job.

>>2302368
If it's this easy to get these kids to fall in line then I'm seriously questioning how all previous babysitters had such a rough time with this job.

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 10:56:33 No.2302914

>If it's this easy to get these kids to fall in line then I'm seriously questioning how all previous babysitters had such a rough time with this job.

I smell plot contrivance!

Furrynomous 2023/06/08 11:55:36 No.2302926

You know, outside of the typical slow and spontaneous weekly updates, this story has been going by more faster than the previous ones. Guess Eric really did try to come up with a story to tell without dragging it out solely for Patreon money this time.

Furrynomous 2023/06/11 17:16:50 No.2304557

>>2255429
Whatever happened to this guy? I wanted hear more of his story pitches. He had some good ones in the previous thread.

Edited at 2023/06/11 17:17:53

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 12:20:48 No.2306931

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From Eric:
>Carli does care about others ... to a point.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 15:41:17 No.2306972

>>2304557
You're him

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 16:29:39 No.2306978

>>2306931
>she knew what she was getting into when she took this job, right?
Was that an actual question or was that rhetorical? You were there and should already know that your wife left out the part of you two having 13 rowdy kids, something I'm starting to wonder they do intentionally to avoid babysitters from hanging up immediately. Also, it's a little nice for Carli to care about this whole "throwing your friend's kid sister under the bus" thing possibly jeopardizing what little friendship she has with Sabrina. Too bad she still values dinner and sex with her hubby over even doing the most basic of things such as calling the 'sitter to see how things were going at home.

Edited at 2023/06/16 03:05:22

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 16:59:52 No.2306985

>>2306931
Weird. The restaurant Carli and Spike are having dinner in looks like the one Zig Zag and her ex-anger management therapist went to back in Skunks Day Out. Either there's not a lot of food establishments in this small Ohio town or Eric has a habit of reusing the same background colors often.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 17:23:38 No.2306989

Sociopathy is a common element of sitcoms.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 17:44:56 No.2306999

>>2306989
As well as cynicism and mean-spirited humor. Too bad Sabrina Online isn't a great sitcom though.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 17:48:50 No.2307001

>>2306989
I wouldn't really call Carli a sociopath. She just has a small amount of bitch energy to be abrasively honest about her own thoughts and feelings to others.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 17:51:40 No.2307003

That seems to apply to just about all the women in this strip.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 18:55:05 No.2307014

>>2307001
>>2307003
While not a fun trait, it's better than being a plank of wood like most of the male casts in this series. Now that I think about it, this whole comic is pretty female focused, so that's probably why.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 22:29:19 No.2307054

FAD is pretty much the same. Think the only male character with their own bio is Hoss the Horse. Spike shares one with Carli.

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 23:30:28 No.2307079

>>2307054
The only named male actors on the cast are Hoss and Rod iirc

Furrynomous 2023/06/15 23:59:21 No.2307093

>>2306972
Huh?

Furrynomous 2023/06/16 15:54:40 No.2307416

>>2307054
>>2307079
Kind of brings back what that one guy kept saying in the previous thread about how nakedly straight Eric is even in porn.

Furrynomous 2023/06/16 18:09:27 No.2307442

It might be because a majority of the male staff of ZZ Studios are either EWS' friends OCs or commissioner OCs.

Remember that "Sabrina Online" originated from an online SIMS-like role-playing game among a small group of furries.

Furrynomous 2023/06/17 10:43:19 No.2307820

>>2307442
And here I thought it originated as Eric's college newspaper strip series before it went online.

Furrynomous 2023/06/17 17:31:50 No.2307870

>>2307079
There's Rod Steele, Sheila's boyfriend. And Peter, the male skunk who threesomes with Stacey and Tracey.

>>2307820
Does anyone have a link to this?

Furrynomous 2023/06/17 19:15:31 No.2307899

>>2307870

As stated, neither of these characters has a bio. And are basically devoid of personality.

They're just there to be the dicks to screw Zig Zag, Sheila, etc.

Furrynomous 2023/06/21 23:23:08 No.2309839

Speaking of fucking, when is that passively stale but highly anticipated porn comic of Stacey and Tracey's wedding night going to come out? It's roughly passed the middle of the month already.

Unknown 2023/06/22 05:28:06 No.2309937

>>2306985

So the Hana Barbara of webcomics then?

Furrynomous 2023/06/22 16:07:45 No.2310086

>>2309937
Ironic since the guy's style is mainly Looney Tunes and Tiny Toon Adventures inspired.

Furrynomous 2023/06/23 21:21:54 No.2310653

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From Eric:
>The immediate situation has been defused ... and then?

Furrynomous 2023/06/24 04:52:06 No.2310779

>>2278994
tiny 16 year old.

To be fair, do we even know what age Tabitha is at this juncture? Danielle looked like she was just a head shorter than her mother so I think there's a significant time skip since last comic. I'd venture Tabitha could definitely be well into her teens and the whole "you're too young to have your own phone little lady" is just her parents being old farts

Furrynomous 2023/06/24 09:45:49 No.2310906

That's possible, but considering the last chapter had Sabrina say Tabitha wasn't "old enough to be on your own", so it's why I assume she's at least 12 years old.
>>2106358

Pretty sure if she was 16 she wouldn't be watched as much as she is, except for this instance where it's mainly for her to learn some responsibility for once in her life.

Furrynomous 2023/06/24 10:18:45 No.2310910

>>2310653
I am really starting to question how any of the previous babysitter's had trouble with these kids if a simple Santa Claus threat is enough to subdue all of them.

Anyone else feel like this comic is way too safe? And by that I mean less chaotic or looney compared to its strip days? So far all that's happened is Tabitha was almost jumped and one of the kids broke her tablet. Frankly, I expected more things going wrong, like her being locked in a closet or basement, for the young skunk girl.

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 01:19:04 No.2311129

>>2309839
No idea. I wonder if he hurt his hand again. As soon as I type this he will probably release a page.

>>2310910
It seems safe because not much time has passed in the story but four months have passed irl. There hasn't been enough time for krazy chaos to manifest. Presumably something will happen that causes the lies to snowball and then SHTF. At this rate I'm guessing sometime in October.

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 10:06:36 No.2311207

On the other hand, par the course for EWS to take an interesting premise and tell it in the most boring way possible.

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 17:31:42 No.2311353

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>>2310779

I assume she's still only 12 or 14 at the most. I think her family are still too overprotective if she was any older than that for a babysitting gig.

I don't think there was a time skip, maybe it's just the angle EWS had Danielle sitting next to Sabrina that made her look bigger. She'll probably have a middle period between her current little kid form and her future version which is probably round the same age as Tabitha is right now.

Dry 2023/06/25 18:49:20 No.2311365

hey, i think what i'm going to ask doesn't go here, but i would like to know if there is some kind of tutorial to draw like Eric W. Schwartz. thanks!

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 20:12:37 No.2311386

>>2311365
yes:
watch a lot of Warner Bros. cartoons

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 21:24:13 No.2311441

>>2311365
There's some EWS character sheets out there(mainly the women). They worked for me as far as references go. Check the FurAfterDark thread, or on e621.net.

Edited at 2023/06/25 21:26:35

Furrynomous 2023/06/25 22:26:39 No.2311482

>>2311353
As far as I know and care, Danielle is at least in toddler age now. Which either means she'll start speaking more words that hopefully aren't related to wanting her cell phone again or she'll be like Timmy for a bit and only speak in Garfield style thought balloons.

Edited at 2023/06/26 00:55:59

Furrynomous 2023/06/26 02:12:55 No.2311539

>>2310653
Did she forget the plan to use video games or cartoons to distract these kids?

Furrynomous 2023/06/26 03:07:40 No.2311547

Her tablet was smashed early on.

Furrynomous 2023/06/26 07:32:22 No.2311581

>>2311547
TVs and Blu-ray/DVD players are still a thing, right? We haven't completely switched to streaming services and using tablets to watch all shows and movies, RIGHT?!

Edited at 2023/06/26 07:32:49

Furrynomous 2023/07/04 23:08:44 No.2315669

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From Eric:
>Please forgive me for thinking that repeating roughly the same line four times in a row is comedy. ;)

Furrynomous 2023/07/04 23:14:02 No.2315671

It's official. That Harold kid has zero impulse control.

â€˜ Anonymous 2023/07/05 05:07:04 No.2315755

>>2315669
Oh right, the whole â€œdogs canâ€™t eat chocolate thingâ€. But then again that might just be Harold, since the other wolf seemed okay.

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 08:18:56 No.2315818

>>2315755
Maybe he got unlucky in the genetics game if he's the only one with that allergy to chocolate.

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 09:41:28 No.2315839

Tabitha better hope he's the only one.
Really, this is Carli's fault for not telling her about the kids' allergies etc.

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 10:51:23 No.2315905

no, it's Tabitha's fault for not putting 2 and 2 together when she saw how high up the cookiers were in the cabinet and one of the kids told her they're not supposed to have a bunch of cookies - that would be a sign that yes, giving cookies to those kids would be a Bad Idea

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 12:06:46 No.2315916

>>2315839
More like she better hope vomiting is the only allergic reaction he has.

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 13:55:20 No.2315932

Are we supposed to be rooting for or against Tabitha here?

Like, are we supposed to cheer her on to succeed against this legion and prove she's capable? Or are we supposed to laugh at her getting knocked down a peg over and over?

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 14:20:08 No.2315948

>>2315905

I'd say the fault this both.

Tabitha should be more careful, as you said, the fact that the cookies are on such a high shelf should tell her the kids are meant to get to them.

However, Carli not telling Tabitha anything about the kids could be potentially dangerous. What if one of the kids had a nut allergy and Tabitha had made them peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? She would not know anything was wrong until the kid goes into anaphylactic shock. At which point she would probably panic about it.

Carli's overeagerness to have a night out with Spike and willingness to "sacrifice" others for her goal, could have potentially serious consequences. But we're not meant to think of it like this. We're supposed to point and laugh at Tabitha for her overconfidence and getting in over he head. While sympathizing with Carli.

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 18:24:18 No.2316072

>>2315948
I've said it before. Tabitha only exist to either be a smartass zoomer-ish character to suffer or to praise Zig Zag like a true adult role model.

I swear, the only reflection of guilt we'll get out of Carli is on page 14.

Edited at 2023/07/05 18:25:14

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 19:03:22 No.2316108

>>2315669

And that's the reason why you should NEVER give chocolate to a dog...

Not even the Road Rovers would eat chocolate in their canosapian forms. So that ought to give you something to think...

Furrynomous 2023/07/05 19:54:19 No.2316127

>>2315669
Does the little sister have a name yet? Feel like she might be the one to save the day with everything Tabitha is dealing with.

Furrynomous 2023/07/06 03:51:21 No.2316310

>>2315948
Bear in mind, parents in EWS's world are far from perfect. Only ones I can think of that are pretty decent are Tom and Amy.

Edited at 2023/07/06 03:51:46

Furrynomous 2023/07/06 06:03:14 No.2316359

>>2316310
Yeah. And those two are considered boring by Carli just because they both dare to have a safe healthy relationship (AKA no angry sex).

Furrynomous 2023/07/06 06:50:35 No.2316371

>>2316359
The last few comics have not painted Carli in a positive light. She's ditched her kids without letting Tabi know any important information, was more than happy to throw her into the grinder and hardly seems all that bothered by it.

Furrynomous 2023/07/06 10:16:24 No.2316396

As mentioned in the previous "Sabrina" thread, EWS has a negative view of parents in general.

It's not that the parents aren't perfect.
It's that he frequently presents them as selfish, lazy, whiny, and sex-obsessed.

Like now that they have kids, they can't buy tons of expensive toys, party, drink, and screw anymore. And we're supposed to feel sorry that these people can't act like 20 year olds anymore.

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 08:12:38 No.2316801

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From Eric:
>I have nothing to add to this one.

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 08:16:44 No.2316802

How does Tabitha not even know what Shrek or products related to it? That was an early 2000s movie franchise.

Edited at 2023/07/07 12:08:54

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 09:50:58 No.2316816

Maybe she ignored the hype to follow Zig Zag's "body of work".

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 12:26:13 No.2316834

I take it back. Things can still go wrong for Tabitha even with the Santa Claus threat and having the advantage of being a skunk.

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 21:50:46 No.2317090

>>2316802
She just isn't familiar with analog entertainment. She's had her faced glued to a screen for the last ten years.

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 22:17:07 No.2317098

>>2317090
She's a kid. Even having your face glued to computer screens and tablets shouldn't stop her from knowing that movie franchise in passing, especially with all the advertisements.

Who laughs at these jokes besides the author themselves? These are hardly even jokes.

Furrynomous 2023/07/07 22:48:53 No.2317108

Stuff like this are why "sliding timelines" can be tricky.

The first Shrek came out in 2001. At that time, Tabitha was drawn as 6-8 years old. She was the target demographic for those films and should be aware of them regardless if Endora banned it from their home.

If this strip is taking place "now" and Tabitha is 12, then she MIGHT have a pass by not growing up with the franchise.

It's like those later Simpsons seasons where Bart acts like the 90s didn't happen even though he lived through the whole decade and beyond.

Edited at 2023/07/07 22:56:45

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 01:40:16 No.2317152

More slice-of-life comics really need to adopt a timeless feeling in their stories (not bringing up current day pop culture, trends, real life news, etc). That way they won't always feel so outdated or nonsensical like moments with Tabitha forgetting the late 90s and early 2000s.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 02:47:28 No.2317180

There really is no reason why she would not be aware of Shrek, even with her more carefree apathetic approach.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 03:23:36 No.2317181

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From Eric:
>Update: Comic page graphic updated to fix a coloring error.

Minor error in the 4th Panel has been fixed.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 03:31:31 No.2317183

>>2311353
Anyone else think Future Vision Danielle looks like an Original Life character? From her know-it-all techy personality to the fact that she's written with only one type of gimmick that isn't funny or charming in the slightest makes it feel like she could've fit just right in with the rest of the kid characters in Naylor's work.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 08:24:34 No.2317251

>>2317183
I didn't read much of Original Life but she doesn't look or feel too similar to me. It's not much but in the future comic she at least is expressive and a bit fun, which is more than we can say with current aged Tabitha in my opinion.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 08:46:51 No.2317257

>>2316816
Skunk's Day Out did show she stumbled upon Zig's work but if anything it seems to have scared her off for now. I'd prefer it if it sparked her curiosity and results in her stealing toys from the studio or maybe rushing too quickly to be treated like an adult.

She does want to get drilled by a 16 year old Timothy in the future, so eventually she get's to that point. Then we just need her to start doing some not for public release videos at the studio.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 13:47:59 No.2317310

>>2317257
Despite the slight ped0phelic angle, it could work as a story, but I think Eric is trying to not satisfy that part of the fandom.

Once again that's a what-if thought of what Sabrina thinks future Tabitha will be like. And a creepy one at that.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 14:05:35 No.2317312

So... anyone else think she should just occupy them by introducing them to sex? Plus her idol is a porn star so...

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 14:11:33 No.2317313

>>2317312
She lacks a tablet, so no.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 18:34:51 No.2317504

>>2317312
If only the law worked in fiction the same way it worked in real life.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 20:13:26 No.2317571

Isn't Carli a major tech head? Shouldn't she have a desktop and a bunch of other computer stuff to look for streaming/Youtube options?

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 20:40:00 No.2317582

>>2317571
Knowing the fact she has kids, those computers are probably busted.

Furrynomous 2023/07/08 21:27:37 No.2317586

>>2317310
I didn't even think about the idea that Sabrina dreamed up the whole idea of her younger sis lusting over a teenager. You're right that's a weird detail she added in there.

Furrynomous 2023/07/10 15:27:10 No.2318362

>>2317310
Yeah, now that I think about it that is slightly creepy that future Tabitha is waiting for future Timmy's underage bone to be legal. While I'm still curious about how the characters will be in the future, I'm hoping Tabitha isn't like that. Although Danielle seems to be shaping up to be everything her future counterpart was, so maybe it's still a possibility. But I hope the level of cringe is enough to prevent that.

Furrynomous 2023/07/10 19:49:38 No.2318552

>>2318362
It'd be one thing if it was a couple years later and Sabrina or Zig Zag makes a small joke about her cradle robbing. Instead EWS has Tabitha acting like a stalker like she's got a timer counting down till she gets to ride that squirrel wolf boy.

Offers of S-O Plots Furrynomous 2023/07/10 21:16:41 No.2318581

Following what I started back here;
>>2241675
and with talk surrounding Tabitha's intelligence, I'm still working on new stories for Eric, which I'd be happy to offer him should he ever get Creator's Block.

The plots (although I have yet to come up with titles and I'm still working on writing them up) are as follows;

1. The Self-Defence Classes, leading up to a Sabrina vs ZigZag Tournament (based on episode 3 of "Velma")

2. The Camping Trip, involving Conrad & Rainflower (parodying camping episodes of "X-Men Evolution" and classic "Simpsons")

3. A Wrestle-Mania episode in which Sabrina, after accidentally K-Oing a professional wrestler whom she thought was attacking ZigZag but was actually giving pointers for ZigZag's latest production, is thrust into the ring with ZigZag tag-teaming her, and goes up against the last person she'd expect in the finals.

4. The Fixer-Upper & Railroad Chase Adventure with Helen Dish, parodying "Great St Trinian's Train Robbery". (NOTE: Several parodies of "Home Alone" traps, the "LEGO City Adventure" Crooks and "Three Stooges" running gags are used a LOT in this story.

5. 'A Woman of Letters' (parodying the "Steptoe & Son" episode 'Man of Letters') surrounding Tina and Warren working on an article for the parish magazine together, but when the rest of Double Z Studios get involved with their own contributions, Shelia's the one who spoils it for everyone - including ruining the lives and reputations of the Vicar and his wife.

6. A Halloween Special. Parodying the classic "Dr Jeckyl & Mr Hyde" story, with Endora as the doctor and ZigZag as Hyde (though in this case, instead of killing people, Hyde's making the streets safer for the less fortunate and the night-dwellers). Tina's writing the story, but Sabrina doesn't think it'll work out.

7. "ZigZag's Blunder". Based on a B Plot of "American Dad", ZigZag tells Sabrina of the time she'd made a horrific mistake whilst on her revenge spree when going after the wrong person, due to mixing up her book of names with someone else's - though this in turn gains her two new friends, who become her new writers.
NOTE: This might be considered an FAD story, though whilst there's no actual sex involved, ZigZag does do a lot of semi-torturing and leaves her 'victim' a bleeding mess...

How do any of those sound to you viewers, or even Eric himself?

Furrynomous 2023/07/10 22:54:27 No.2318637

>>2318552
I think it would be less cringy (but not less predictable) if Tabitha was inspired by Zig and decided to start working infront of the camera than lusting after Timmy. Although I doubt Eric would do that either.

I would like to see a story with all of the kids grown up though. Like individual stories that focus on each character. We got a good look at Tabitha and Danielle's characters, but we didn't even really get to see Timmy himself except from behind, and the only thing he said was his name. I'd like to know how he turns out in the future, and how everyone gets along. It seems like a better set of ideas and possibilities than what's going on with the same cast that never changes and the same boring stories with them. ZigZag in particular. At this point I can't bring myself to care about any story where she (or anyone from the studio for that matter) is or shares the focus.

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 04:41:40 No.2319143

>>2318637
You've got some good ideas in mind. I almost feel like EWS brought up Tabitha's apprehension to sex in Skunk's Day Out just to lay the foundation that it wasn't a foregone conclusion that the little skunk who's a big fan of the porn star ends up following exactly in her footsteps. Future Tabitha definitely has the figure and the personality for it, but you're probably right that Eric's going to avoid that.

The new kids though would be interesting to see. If everyone's keeping in touch seeing Danielle, Timmy and Tabitha all interact or have their own story would be nice. But more than likely there will be a future story lined up about what's going to happen with the porn studio or something like that.

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 06:28:00 No.2319170

>>2318637
>>2319143
This is pretty much around what I thought Eric would've at least done with Sabrina Online if he actually wanted to explore his characters more in this continuation. There's definitely not much to do with most of the adult cast as is if going back to the porn studio where nothing really happens and it's just more blatantly unfunny sex jokes is all there is to there.

Strangely enough, I do kind of want a story or two focused on Endora and Zig Zag and maybe Warren and Endora's past and relationship in this comic. Something about the most unseen and shown interactions between these character matchups feels like such a missed opportunity if a guy writing this conclusion never bothered to go into them in the original run of this series.

Edited at 2023/07/12 07:53:56

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 06:33:02 No.2319174

>>2318362
I still find it a bit pointless to even speculate on future predictions from Sabrina considering that whole sliding timeline malarkey in this comic prevents characters from aging too naturally.

Edited at 2023/07/12 07:29:32

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 07:23:37 No.2319195

>>2319174
You are right. It's just kind of fun to speculate what might happen and as critical as we can be, still hoping for the best.

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 12:02:18 No.2319233

An idea worth exploring would be introducing Helen to the strip proper and have her meet Endora.

Think about it. Endora is from a generation that saw marriage and kids as the ultimate goal. She married someone she loved and had kids she actually cares about.

Helen, however, was from one that stressed a college degree and a career. Instead, she ended up with a husband she didn't love (and didn't love her) and a kid she didn't want.

Now both are trying to make up for lost time and indulging in different vices to accomplish that with little regard for others.

By having them talk, you'd get the backstory for Endora AND have Helen be more than EWS' version of Cartman's Mom.

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 17:51:54 No.2319353

>>2319233
That honestly sounds like it could actually work. It would at least give Endora someone else to talk to than Zig Zag of all people to really sink in that those old traditions don't exactly work out for everyone, even if Helen put herself up for a failed marriage in the first place.

Furrynomous 2023/07/12 18:03:36 No.2319362

>>2319233
It would definitely give Helen more to do than just being Eric's main milf character. Although I also see this concept being adapted as a porn story where you'd see gratuitous sexual flashbacks as she tells Endora about herself causing the old skunkette to grow more squeamish as she goes on.

Furrynomous 2023/07/13 00:57:54 No.2319525

>>2319233
>>2319353
>>2319362
Sounds good. So long as theres no traumatized Bobby joke.

Edited at 2023/07/13 00:58:37

Furrynomous 2023/07/14 00:23:03 No.2320030

Was Sabrina Online ever funny? Because I swear I try to go back and reread all of the old strips and I just barely, if not, never seem to be able to muster much of a chuckle like I use to when I was a teenager. The characters are dull and uninteresting, nobody really develops much or at all, and a majority of jokes either don't age well or are just cookie cutter pop culture references that most of the time don't even have an actual punchline. Something that still seem to plague the continuation despite the format change and more "narrative focused stories".

This really was just The Thing That Sparked a Part of the early Furry/Webcomic era.

Furrynomous 2023/07/14 00:26:49 No.2320031

>>2316801
Pre-teen Tabitha. She knows what Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is, but doesn't know a damn thing about Shrek. The author has never spoken to a child.

Furrynomous 2023/07/14 00:38:16 No.2320034

>>2319233
>>2319353
>>2319362
I still would rather like a story that shows us Endora and Warren's past together. The original comic always hinted about how much of a uptight c*nt Endy's mother was to her like she is to Sabrina, yet we never actually explore that. What about Warren was something they hated about him? He wasn't even a different species from her. I've checked and it never goes into detail about it.

Also, I'd like for her to ACTUALLY develop as a character and not make very small steps before walking back on them because it wouldn't be easy to tell jokes involving those old traits like Eric does with a majority of his characters.

Furrynomous 2023/07/14 13:59:48 No.2320182

>>2320034
All I can think about right now is how we never seen either of Sabrina's other side of the family. Like make a story where we meet Sabrina's grandparents if they're the ones that shaped Endora's whole personality and life standards.

>>2320030
Don't forget how small and compact the setting is. Not a lot of locales or point of interests.

Furrynomous 2023/07/16 02:43:54 No.2320822

>>2319525
I agree. Let the kid go. Although I feel like if Bobby was any part of this Helen/Endora set up that didn't involve him being the usual punchline, it still wouldn't end well for him or for Helen. I'm kinda picturing a similar setting with Blitzo and Barbie in the recent episode of Helluva boss, only w/o any death or drugs. Where Helen (after talking with Endora, about their kids) finds herself desperately wanting to reconnect with her son, but he's doing everything he can to avoid her.

Furrynomous 2023/07/16 14:50:43 No.2321018

You guys really will over fixate on that punchline of a character everytime the milf is brought up.

Furrynomous 2023/07/16 15:17:37 No.2321028

Like it or not, he's tied to Helen and what little personality she has.

It's hard to discuss Cartman's Mom without Cartman and how their relationship affects her.

Furrynomous 2023/07/16 15:56:06 No.2321042

Plus if it weren't for him, Helen wouldn't even be a character.

Furrynomous 2023/07/23 20:04:21 No.2323787

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From Eric:
>I think this game might be a bit too advanced for toddlers.

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 04:01:00 No.2323933

>>2323787
Sure hope that's the usual bratty behavior all kids go through. Otherwise that kid's gonna grow up into a BPD case.

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 04:01:57 No.2323934

>>2323787

Edited at 2023/07/24 04:10:58

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 05:36:27 No.2323941

>>2323787
There are gaming streams for board games? Never heard that before.

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 05:38:57 No.2323943

She'll either end up hating kids in the end or start choosing and asking questions before wildly accepting any babysitting offers from now on.

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 09:57:08 No.2323982

I get that Tabitha is a take-that towards millennials.
But I'm pretty sure most kids today know how board games work.

Furrynomous 2023/07/24 10:14:23 No.2323985

>>2323982
Sounds more like a take that at Gen Z kids. Which I honestly wonder if there are any who've never played or heard of Monopoly before for this joke to work? Because if not then this kid somehow went throughout her young childhood probably not even knowing what Candy Land is too.

Furrynomous 2023/07/25 04:17:29 No.2324231

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From Eric:
>"Elise-chan Can't Communicate"

Furrynomous 2023/07/25 10:31:02 No.2324306

This Elise girl looks like a chinchilla Sabrina

Furrynomous 2023/07/25 16:31:47 No.2324402

>>2324306
Oh god. Elise Online when?

Edited at 2023/07/25 17:55:32

Furrynomous 2023/07/27 00:00:50 No.2324796

>>2324231
Wonder if they're going to get a bit bored considering Monopoly games tend to take way too long to finish.

>>2324306
She looks more like kid Velma from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo.

Furrynomous 2023/07/27 04:20:41 No.2324856

>>2324796
Not really

Furrynomous 2023/07/27 04:52:31 No.2324871

The cast of kidchillas are pretty adorable, has the main girl been named yet?

Furrynomous 2023/07/27 19:22:05 No.2325085

Maybe it was too early for Tabitha to call anyone for help. Things haven't really escalated all that much for her to crack that early on.

Furrynomous 2023/07/28 04:46:52 No.2325284

>>2325085
It's seemed to have mellowed out so far. She handled the mobbing after the initial panic, the kids don't seem to be having any kind of hyperactivity from too many cookies, unless the Raoul kid or Augie gets crazy I don't see this escalating any further?

Furrynomous 2023/08/03 23:00:30 No.2328274

File: Embedded Video

Looks like some people decided to make a honeyed review of Sabrina Online. Been awhile.

Furrynomous 2023/08/03 23:05:48 No.2328276

The only thing I could agree on was when they brought up Holly & Doug; personally speaking, one of the best porn comics Eric made that didn't feel or read like shite. Other than that, it's a pretty generalized review the comic and overview of Eric's other works.

Furrynomous 2023/08/04 02:43:31 No.2328331

>>2328274
Eh, feel more with this guys YT short review; https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qlFYKxjT9EM. Nice, and straight to the point, and explains precisely how/when it went downhill for me.

Edited at 2023/08/04 02:53:25

Furrynomous 2023/08/04 03:17:02 No.2328362

>>2324796
They only take long if you play house rules. If you stick to the rules of the actual game it will end pretty quickly as one player snowballs into owning the entire board and makes money hand over fist.

Furrynomous 2023/08/04 04:36:05 No.2328377

>>2328331
Rundown of downfall:
1. When the author's favorite PC becomes obsolete.
2. When the internet became more mainstream.
3. ...the author got horny over someone else's porn character.

Doesn't help that the only reason SO is remembered is for its legacy of being one of the oldest webcomics on the net and because it's another piece of work that introduced lonely people to the furry community. Other than that, skunk prostitute.

Furrynomous 2023/08/04 08:24:08 No.2328424

>>2324796

>Wonder if they're going to get a bit bored considering Monopoly games tend to take way too long to finish.

That's just how my mum felt as we spent 4 nights in a row playing the Christmas edition last year. She prefers board games that have a straight-forward finish.

Mind you, I've come up with several ideas for new editions, including a LEGO edition with "Legends of Chima", I'm planning one with "LEGO City Adventures" and my most recent idea was coming up with a "Dad's Army" edition...

Then again, I've been trying (and failing) to get a Beatles "Yellow Submarine" edition on eBay for some time...

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 02:42:59 No.2328716

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>>2328424

I just got that set, a few months ago.

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 02:47:15 No.2328720

>>2328424

As is, I have 3 Monopoly sets, Monopoly, Catopoly, and Sheboygan-opoly. (I live in Sheboygan.)

I also have an XBox videogame version.

sage Furrynomous 2023/08/05 16:56:53 No.2328930

>>2328716
Ah shit, what up Chris Chan? What the hell is all that fucking gross ass hair on the curtain on the left?

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 21:45:37 No.2329029

>>2328930
Actually that's bodyhair and that's not a curtain its the massive skin folds of his huge fat flabby body.
But, hey follow your dreams or whatever, man.

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 22:46:07 No.2329037

Actually it's cat hair.

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 23:19:09 No.2329041

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From Eric:
>Always good to find out if Harold's going to vomit again. Wish we could've gotten a bit more of a definite answer, however.

Furrynomous 2023/08/05 23:19:57 No.2329042

Like I said. This is getting too easy for Tabitha.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 00:28:40 No.2329056

>>2329041

All those kids just raised their hands to go to the bathroom. Now, to the best of my knowledge, the typical house will have 1, maybe 2, toilets. And there seems to be a lot more than just two needing to use the facilities. So, are they form a line outside the bathroom? Have their parents had the bathrooms remodeled to be like a public restroom with multiple stalls? Or, are they all gonna go squat in the backyard?

Also, I bet that kid is gonna yarf again.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 01:20:25 No.2329063

More likely, another kid is going to be revealed to have an aversion to pizza. Or there's going to be an argument over toppings.

sage Furrynomous 2023/08/06 15:54:38 No.2329308

>>2329037
Get a cat brush or a lint roller and clean your curtain that shit is nasty, do your furniture too I bet it's just as bad.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 17:16:28 No.2329390

>>2329308
Seconded, some of those hairs ARE human hairs such as the one on your little cabinet under the toys front and center of the shot.

Also dust your desk, probably consider cleaning the curtains entirely in the washing machine if they are machine washable. Then get some oil for that cabinet and wipe it down.

Finally sweep your floor Chris Chan.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 18:08:26 No.2329396

>>2329041
Anyone thinking that Harold kid is not being completely truthful about his tolerance to pizza? Whatever. The worse thing that could happen is all of them fighting over what toppings they all want.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 19:40:05 No.2329425

>>2329390

Point 1: I am not this fictional "Chris Chan."

Point 2: Your obsession with my cats' hair is just plain bizarre.

Point 3: You're no doubt just an asshole troll.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 20:08:58 No.2329438

>>2329425
Interesting that you have a cat that has the same fur color and shape and length as humans do, because fully brown cats with long wavy fur are so common obviously. It's not that you like to fuck your curtain and your pubes get stuck on it or anything.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 20:13:41 No.2329439

>>2329041
They just snacked and she's planning to give them pizza? That's just spelling another disaster.

Furrynomous 2023/08/06 21:52:50 No.2329461

>>2329438

Thanks for confirming what a trolling asshole you are.

Furrynomous 2023/08/07 02:57:02 No.2329515

>>2329439
Her overconfidence is still an issue.

Furrynomous 2023/08/07 03:05:21 No.2329517

>>2329056
With how these kids act I would bet some of them would do their business in a indoor bush or outside.

Furrynomous 2023/08/07 04:27:34 No.2329535

>>2329461
Cry us a river degenerate.

Furrynomous 2023/08/07 05:29:52 No.2329542

>>2329041
Huh. One of them is roller skating. Probably the strangest thing I've seen besides that large ugly kid.

Furrynomous 2023/08/09 04:25:24 No.2330609

Well, we know this won't go into porn, obviously, but it is a silly little story of how Tabitha finally learns to stand on her own.

Furrynomous 2023/08/09 06:03:44 No.2330641

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Can anyone make a stable diffusion LoRA model of Tabitha and possible Sabrina? My video ram is too low to learn the characters on my own.

Furrynomous 2023/08/09 12:32:25 No.2330713

>>2330609
As long as it doesn't involve cubs. I've had enough of that side of the "fandom".

Furrynomous 2023/08/09 14:14:06 No.2330735

>>2330641
There's two AI topics in both furry and cub that might be able to help with the respective character. We could use a Tabitha model, her design makes it difficult for anyone to make something similar to her.

Furrynomous 2023/08/10 04:38:30 No.2331004

>>2330609
I wrote in a previous reply if we see anything remotely sexual in this comic it will probably just be Carli and Spike coming in after some time alone with like messed up hair, her dress either hiked up a bit or the top of it hanging loose off her shoulder. Stuff like that.

Furrynomous 2023/08/10 06:41:11 No.2331048

Sad too. Amy and Thomas used to also share in the lewds, albeit in more lighter tones comparably.

Furrynomous 2023/08/15 23:09:20 No.2333153

Got some new ideas for stories following from here; >>2318581

...but I'm having submission issues @ moment.

Might upload later.

Furrynomous 2023/08/16 10:09:11 No.2333444

>>2333153

Here's the attempt...of new stories for EWS to try out...

"Miss ZigZag goes to Washington" Parodying the B Plot of the "Murder She Wrote" Series 1 episode 'Capital Offence' and follows on from "Tina's Apartment". When the state's member of Congress falls ill, his party begin seeking a temporary rep till an official replacement can be found. And who do they choose? ZigZag herself! This leads ZigZag, Sabrina, Richard & Tina on a journey to the Capital State to sort out a bill for some new industries to be build in their state. With some unexpected discoveries made by Tina in the department store she's occupying, ZigZag manages to carry out her term without the means of "subduing" her opponents her own way - much to Sabrina's utter amazement.

TBC...

Furrynomous 2023/08/16 10:20:31 No.2333447

>>2333444

Here's the last part, which precedes the previous entry.

"Tina's Apartment". Parodying a Season 7's episode of "Are You Being Served?" of 'The Apartment'. This story revolves solely around Tina who's trying to move, but when her new house is taken out by a landslide, she and her furniture are stranded! Luckily, her uncle works as a watchman in run-down department store.
With all her belongings stored on the top floor, it's become an apartment in itself, so Tina moves in. And when the city's struck by gasoline shortages, it leaves the cast and crew at Double Z marooned themselves, so they all ask to spend the night in Tina's new flat...though Sabrina hopes of a peaceful night's sleep are easier said than achieved.

How's that sound?

Furrynomous 2023/08/16 11:28:16 No.2333454

Ohio is largely a Republican state.
Why in the nine realms would they appoint a LGBTQ, pro-sex, life time in the porn industry type person like Zig Zag to stand in for them?

Edited at 2023/08/16 11:29:02

Furrynomous 2023/08/16 13:12:09 No.2333469

>>2333454
A "state's member of congress" can be a house rep, and even Ohio has some democratic representatives. But I think in every state the demise of a house rep either leads to a special election or a new one is appointed by the governor.

Furrynomous 2023/08/16 13:57:27 No.2333472

>>2333454
Plot twist, they suspect the Congressman was poisoned and they want to use her as bait to catch the culprit.

Furrynomous 2023/08/17 03:09:13 No.2333818

I don't much see Zig Zag ever involving herself into politics, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me that she would immediately be good at that too.

Furrynomous 2023/08/17 21:18:27 No.2334167

>>2333454
>>2333469

It was mostly due to the fact that ZigZag is a successful actress in the adult entertainment/media industry, and many an actor has gone on to Congress, then the Senate and even further...

Why, in my Train Robbery story, the people of Hicksville KNOW ZigZag is a famous film star, dubbing her as 'Miss Glory' (as she blatantly tries to go into town for supplies, with Sabrina, incognito) yet the townsfolk had NEVER seen ANY of her films or even KNEW of what type of films she'd done...

Furrynomous 2023/08/17 22:11:58 No.2334184

That seems highly unlikely. How would they know she's famous without knowing what she's famous for?

This isn't the 80s or 90s anymore.
It'd be easy to look up Zig Zag's career etc. even if they don't know her actual name.

Furrynomous 2023/08/18 08:34:14 No.2334333

>>2334184

They get glamour and society magazines of course, but the whole town doesn't have internet, so they CAN'T look her up. It's like an Amish/hillbilly community where they have no use or need for computers. (Or just a town full of Endoras; completely oblivious to the true nature of things. For them, a film star is a film star, no matter what they make)

In fact, the crooks in the story don't know themselves who ZigZag really is and call her party a bunch of "hookers", "bimbos" (and in Hoss's case a "himbo") "strippers" and "harlots" (that included Sabrina and Darke who don't even look the part), Tabitha & Timmy as "wannabes following in their parents' footsteps and mistake Warren, Richard and Thomas as "Pimps", thinking THEY are in charge of the women...

...least after their first encounter with the Double Z Crew, they are of the opinion that they aren't stupid as they appear to be (and that included Shelia)....

Edited at 2023/08/18 08:35:30

Furrynomous 2023/08/18 09:38:58 No.2334340

What glamor/society magazine would feature Zig Zag in it and not even mention that she's the biggest porn actress/producer in the country?

Furrynomous 2023/08/19 20:35:08 No.2335061

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From Eric:
>Tabitha is an adaptable girl. Only took her a few minutes to figure out how a phone book works.

Furrynomous 2023/08/19 21:55:20 No.2335096

>>2335061
She also figured out how paper works. Almost thought using a tablet all her life would make her forget that too!

See? I can make all the poor-in-taste zoomer jokes too.

SomeoneElse 2023/08/19 23:43:03 No.2335123

Ice cream pizza, I'm down for that.

I suppose you'd serve it on waffle cone.

And cold obviously.

Furrynomous 2023/08/19 23:58:03 No.2335136

Or it's a TMNT reference.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 00:11:54 No.2335143

>>2335123
Sushi pizza!? I.......actually want to try that.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 02:31:30 No.2335177

>>2335123
That actually sounds disgusting.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 02:49:58 No.2335185

I recently saw a pickle pizza.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 04:54:21 No.2335262

>>2335061
At least she knew what 'paper' was. Give it another generation.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 04:56:30 No.2335263

>>2335061
Is it me or does this job seem to be ageing her? I mean she did just said she only sounds young.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 05:02:31 No.2335264

Even if they are extra large, that doesn't sound like enough pizza for 13 kids plus one

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 06:35:01 No.2335303

>>2335061
Careful Tabitha, lying about how old you are can put you in some precarious positions.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 13:20:49 No.2335464

>>2335263

That could a combo of stress & exhaustion. You see it a lot whenever Bill Holbrook ends a pregnancy arc and the laboring mother's hair gets mussed up...(Only 5 avoided that appearence; Lindesfarne because she has quills, Samantha & Feryl because their hair was curly, Leona on accound she had a C-Section and Auto-Correct as she had a rapid egg-laying...)

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 13:25:23 No.2335465

>>2334340

Either back issues of her acting life BEFORE she founded Double Z Studios (after all, she had to start out somewhere), the magazines were censored before publishing in Hicksville, or that Miss Glory is ZigZag's doppelganger from 50 years ago (the townsfolk only ever saw films in B&W, so it was a natural assumption)...

Let's not Swiss-cheese the plotholes of how and why...

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 14:45:27 No.2335494

Isn't that what we do with the regular plots of these comics already?

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 14:50:56 No.2335495

>>2335264

3 pizzas would be about 24 slices. With 14 people, you'd probably get enough so each person got one plus leftovers. Or one or two would get seconds.

Only one of these kids looks like they'd be able to handle more than one slice anyway.

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 16:10:24 No.2335517

And anyone else notice the address?
Sounds like a "Nightmare."

Furrynomous 2023/08/20 20:33:45 No.2335583

>>2335517
How fitting for those kids.

Furrynomous 2023/08/21 01:03:58 No.2335645

Kids are a nightmare

Furrynomous 2023/08/21 04:29:17 No.2335668

>>2335645

Oh, they can be. What bothers me the most is when they SCREAM.
Talk about nerve-wracking.

Furrynomous 2023/08/21 09:11:22 No.2335726

>>2335303
She pretty much did that to get this job. Remember what she said: she's very mature for her age.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 00:14:35 No.2336031

File: TabiComic_u18chan.png - (953.23kb, 1280x1790, TabiComic.png)

Just found this on Kemono. Good job Raoul, shoot your shot.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 01:13:01 No.2336061

The irony!

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 02:14:18 No.2336070

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>>2336031
Didn't like the file name given to this.

From Eric:
>That's our Raoul!

Edited at 2023/08/22 02:17:51

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 02:19:54 No.2336071

Oh you can just hear the laugh track!

Real talk. Anyone feel like these wolfchillas have the most one-off jokes attached to any character(s) in this webcomic? Like this kid in particular is probably one of the most stalk trope in humor imaginable in here.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 02:23:27 No.2336072

>Good job Raoul, shoot your shot.
So far he's shooting blanks and he's not even of age to do so.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 02:51:09 No.2336075

Feels like EWS is trying to channel Pepe le Pew with this kid.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 02:59:29 No.2336076

>>2336075
Funny thing since Pepe Le Pew canonically exists in the Sabrina Online universe. But nah. Raoul feels like more of a mini Johnny Bravo to me.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 03:31:29 No.2336085

>>2336072
Regardless of age it looks like he's inherited some of his mother's eagerness on the subject.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 03:52:13 No.2336087

>>2336085
Hopefully he didn't inherit her weird chatterbox nature as well.

Furrynomous 2023/08/22 07:21:28 No.2336138

>>2336087
He might have something similar. If Eric wasn't cycling through the rest of the kids I'm sure Raoul could talk Tabi's ear off the rest of the night.

Furrynomous 2023/08/23 05:25:47 No.2336615

>>2336070
Kid keeps this up in future, he's gonna end up working at ZZ's studio.

Furrynomous 2023/08/23 07:21:44 No.2336640

>>2336615
Yeah. Probably as an intern if we're lucky. And do all other porn studios in the world just not exist? It's always that place. It's as if the world revolves around Zig Zag and crew.

Furrynomous 2023/08/23 10:25:28 No.2336682

That's a fairly standard sitcom trope.

Like how "Cheers" is the only bar in Boston or "Central Perk" is the only coffee shop in NYC.

Plus, it was sort of a running gag in the furry fandom in the 90s and 00s that all new OCs had to audition or have a job interview with Zig Zag.

Furrynomous 2023/08/23 19:52:05 No.2336861

>>2336070
>Didn't like the file name given to this.
HEY

no complaining about filenames

you get what you get and you can save it with whatever filename you want

Furrynomous 2023/08/23 23:14:45 No.2336928

>>2336861
I do get it though, some want to keep things uniformed. I just saw it pop up, wanted to share it and just added my own name to it without thinking.

Furrynomous 2023/08/24 03:37:11 No.2336988

>Yeah. Probably as an intern if we're lucky.
If so, than he'll be hittin on Tabitha all over again, considering her future as an intern at ZZ's.

Edited at 2023/08/24 03:37:39

Furrynomous 2023/08/24 03:45:11 No.2336991

>>2336988
Then he better get use to being sprayed or violently rejected.

Furrynomous 2023/08/24 05:48:46 No.2337059

>>2336991
I think he'd probably risk it, he seems pretty infatuated. Besides in the time skip, Tabi seems alright with an age difference. Maybe she'll come around to his old comedy trope like harassment.

Furrynomous 2023/08/24 06:00:26 No.2337062

I now understand why Kevin and Kell only characterizes Gweneth Skunk out of all of her other siblings. It's so Bill doesn't juggle around multiple child characters with one-off joke personalities and none of the charm.

Furrynomous 2023/08/24 09:54:17 No.2337132

>>2337059
EWS uses this trope alot, so he probably would.
Except, since he's a guy, he'll depict it as wrong.

But Zig Zag, Stacy, Tracy, or Tabitha throwing themselves at someone; THATâ€™S comedy gold!

Furrynomous 2023/09/29 21:45:16 No.2341622

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From Eric:
>There's always one who's playing for keeps.

Furrynomous 2023/09/29 21:57:49 No.2341623

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From Eric:
>It's kinda fun to write dialogue where no one involved is the 'good guy'.

Furrynomous 2023/09/29 22:19:12 No.2341626

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From Eric:
>Time for pizza distribution math. Thankfully, small children don't usually eat a lot.

Furrynomous 2023/09/29 22:26:48 No.2341627

>>2341623
You know, the "everyone is awful" joke has been ran into the ground a lot in this comic, yet Tabitha arguably comes out the worse in this exchange.

Furrynomous 2023/09/29 22:39:47 No.2341630

>>2341626
Eh. Alive, dead or severely maimed, it's Sabrina Online. No one really faces any consequences here (and when they do it never really lasts long).

And Tabitha's right. It's almost like Justin's whole gimmick is complaining about anything not being given to him or just being aggressive about it.

Furrynomous 2023/09/30 16:57:37 No.2341755

>>2341626
Big kid's going to need a lot more than two if we're being real honest here.

Furrynomous 2023/09/30 18:22:02 No.2341762

>>2341623
Don’t know what the guy was expecting. Its not like all twelve year olds know how to tip like an adult.

Furrynomous 2023/10/01 16:17:36 No.2341856

>>2341762
He probably was just having a bad day. And it got worse after this exchange.

Furrynomous 2023/10/01 22:23:37 No.2341892

>>2341856

Furrynomous 2023/10/04 12:41:01 No.2342125

I know the joke with Carli and Spike is that it's "unknown" how these perpetually argumentative, loud and mostly immature people could ever stay married for years, but I'm just going to say they both stayed for the sex. Like these two can end up with one of them in the hospital and raking up expensive medical costs every time they get physical all they want. If having a safer marriage meant less sex, then what's the freaking point? I mean, that's pretty much why they seem to always try to trick a babysitter to watch their horde of bratty kids. They're all just too inconvenient for these two enterally 20-something year olds.

Furrynomous 2023/10/07 03:10:37 No.2342337

>>2342125
As odd as they're "angry sex" routine is, they're the only couple with a "odd sex life" than any other couples in this series outside the norm (i.e. SabrinaxRC, and AmyxTom) that same to be somewhat healthy (medical bills aside). Anyone else that's married, which last I checked were StaceyxTracy and CathyxWhat-ever-her-husbands-name-is, seem to be cuckholds that treat it as lifestyle rather than a fetish.

Furrynomous 2023/10/07 22:07:39 No.2342391

I'm just gonna say it again. Why didn't Spike just get a vasectomy? They have all this money to be going out on dates and hiring babysitters even though they have like 14 kids. They must be swimming in cash to be able to blow off money like this, not worry about more kids eating up funds, and seemingly not having any debt. They could afford a 2000 dollar surgery.

Furrynomous 2023/10/09 11:39:00 No.2342480

Because in the 90s, a vasectomy was seen as another word for "castration".

Furrynomous 2023/10/09 23:51:23 No.2342513

>>2342480

Still is.

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 02:18:47 No.2342524

>>2342480
This takes place in the 90's? Didn't Shrek come to theaters in 2001? Or are you saying that the author only thinks like a 90's guy?

>>2342513
???

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 04:05:27 No.2342530

>>2342524

I'm saying EWS still thinks like the 90s.

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 05:12:14 No.2342537

>>2342524
The comic started in the 90s. But EWS updated it's base timeline somewhat every year. Not exactly great story telling. But many webcomics are guilty of doing the exact same thing. Keven and Kell being another example. At least we get to see new tech here and there, instead of having to relate to a comic that takes place two decades ago. I am curious though, what would have happened if EWS had kept Sabrina Online period to the past.Sabrina is around 31 in the comic now. She was 22 when the comic started in 1996. If the comic were period, for her it'd be 2005 right now. And instead of youtube, streaming and smartphones, we'd hear satire about TV shows of the time, Blackberry phones, satellite/cable TV, anime that trended at the time, etc.

Like it or not EWS had to keep Sabrina Online up to day with current years, or the comic likely wouldn't have been as successful as it became.

PS: Sab ur mom ish totally fuckable! Especially theearly version of her.

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 11:01:22 No.2342549

Except EWS DIDN'T keep Sabrina up to date.

She was still using her Amiga for her job well into the 2010s.

The only times he'd mention current events was to talk about Transformers media.

And the studio didn't start offering online material until 2010 and most of the staff didn't even know how email worked.

For a comic with "Online" in the title, EWS hardly ever talks about online culture beyond the 90s.

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 14:58:56 No.2342557

>>2342549
Are you really surprised? Most of the computer jokes made back then were how much Windows sucked, how underappreciated Amiga computers were (and still are), chatrooms not having filters, girls using a computers at all being equivalent of seeing a unicorn, and how many people still treated the internet like a novelty at the time. Even Kevin & Kell had more punch to their internet based jokes than this comic.

Furrynomous 2023/10/10 22:29:46 No.2342577

>>2341630
>Eh. Alive, dead or severely maimed, it's Sabrina Online. No one really faces any consequences here (and when they do it never really lasts long).

>>2341856
>He probably was just having a bad day. And it got worse after this exchange.

That's sort of what happens to the main villains in my 'Fixer-Upper/Train-Chase' story. They thought the Double Z Girls would be pushover bimbos, therefore easy to get around in order to retrieve the stolen loot - and boy were they WRONG.

The first attempt left the Card-Shark and the Safe-Cracker pelted with paint, plaster, DIY debris, eggs, rotten produce and water sludge.

When they came back with reinforcements, they barely escaped with their heads unbroken after getting ambushed in the engine shed.

And their final attempt left them derailed in a muddy ditch, whilst their food-wagon operatives were outsmarted and K.O'ed, and only one member escaping the authorities, and their boss left high and dry in the midst of a heart-attack after he saw the headlines in the aftermath...

Furrynomous 2023/10/11 07:59:36 No.2342607

>>2342549
OK you misunderstood me. I said EWS had to keep Sabrina Online up to date over the years. That's the name of the webcomic itself. But he intentionally kept Sabrina herself retro as the world advanced around her. And besides, Sabrina had to eventually replace her Amiga with a new PC she frankened together as an Amiga's bastard child. And though not a Windows PC, it was still up to date at that time. Also, all the computers Sabrina has to use at ZZ studios are kept up to date. She just uses her outdated PCs that she can barely keep relevant from home. Or so is said. Yet we almost never see her actually using her Amiga to do the so called professional work that she claims to do with them. The Amiga is just a hobby toy for her now. But the world around Sabrina still got more modern with each passing year.

Furrynomous 2023/10/12 04:22:40 No.2342661

>>2342607
You know, this would probably make an interesting story, without the pop culture references and stealing plots from other shows/movies. Sabrina struggling to keep from completely relying on tech she's been use to using since the 1990s. Maybe it would at least touch on her slight annoyance with her daughter being absorbed in her smartphone despite not even being in an age where she hasn't even learned to walk.

Furrynomous 2023/10/12 07:29:15 No.2342666

>>2342661
Fair point

Furrynomous 2023/10/12 12:04:29 No.2342676

It would be kind of nice seeing Sabrina interact with her daughter other than to change her diaper and complain about her always being on a smartphone.

Furrynomous 2023/10/12 13:21:35 No.2342678

I wonder about the day Sabrina will finally have to upgrade from a flip-phone. Or when her outdated PCs are finally SOL with modern applications. Or if we'll see the Renamon shirt again?

Furrynomous 2023/10/14 16:50:28 No.2342823

Tbh the only reason I repeatedly check this story is to know if there's gonna be more Doug and Holly comics atm

Furrynomous 2023/10/14 17:19:15 No.2342824

>>2342823
Probably not for a long time unless Eric can figure out a story for them again.

Furrynomous 2023/10/20 17:26:27 No.2343115

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From Eric:
>Some Monopoly players grow up to run multi-billion dollar tech companies. Other Monopoly players grow up to buy multi-billion dollar tech companies and run them into the ground.

Furrynomous 2023/10/20 17:30:11 No.2343117

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From Eric:
>Whelp, we've done enough damage around this popsicle stand. Time to pack it up and head home.

Furrynomous 2023/10/20 18:30:01 No.2343139

>>2343117
Everyone's an immoral prick #696.

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 03:07:37 No.2343389

You'd think in this world people would invest in solid steel bedframes

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 04:35:29 No.2343418

>>2343117
They do know that there are security cameras in every lobby and parking lot of every hotel out there, right? They’ll have enough footage to track you down, fake ID or not.

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 11:27:49 No.2343557

Gotta remember that in this world, most tech has barely moved past the 2000s.

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 14:49:13 No.2343636

Damn, the bed could not handle Carli & Spike's weight.

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 17:21:05 No.2343768

>>2343418
Mate. In the same story, we just had an underaged babysitter pretty much committing assault on a pizza delivery guy with the kids she's watching. I think it's safe to say that two people getting away with fraud and breaking a hotel bed is possible.

Furrynomous 2023/10/21 23:58:41 No.2343927

>>2343117
>The only part of this comic I'd have been interested in seeing was skipped over

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 06:35:16 No.2345052

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From Eric:
>"Ruthless capitalism shark" ... that's something young girl skunks say, right?

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 11:29:28 No.2345103

Something tells me she's gonna be babysitting these kids again

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 12:41:22 No.2345118

Make your own dedicated Endora thread. Why haven't you done that already?

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 14:39:23 No.2345146

>>2345118
How else are they going to get people to recognize their obsession over some lame prude woman that no fan cares about unless she's glued to a stripped skunk?

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 15:27:56 No.2345155

Sometimes i wonder what is in some people's minds when it comes to spaming about a furry character.

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 18:48:52 No.2345204

>>2345052
What a perfect representation of what it's like to play Monopoly. Surprised none of these kids just destroyed the board minus Harold ruining it with his greasy fingers.

Furrynomous 2023/10/27 21:51:43 No.2345250

Simple solution: kid pukes all over the board. Game is null and void. Everyone runs from the blast area.

Furrynomous 2023/10/29 18:17:14 No.2345953

For a supposedly short story, it's taking Eric awhile to finish. The worse that's happened is Tabitha's tablet getting smashed by one of the kids, and all that was done for was to prevent her from ignoring all of these brats.

Furrynomous 2023/10/29 22:50:21 No.2346005

Now all the babysitting money is gonna go towards fixing/replacing her tablet

Furrynomous 2023/10/30 03:21:21 No.2346044

So... she breaks even. That's better than most people.

Furrynomous 2023/10/30 09:26:54 No.2346073

Fair enough

Furrynomous 2023/10/31 04:07:39 No.2346172

>>2345052
All talk on Justin, Karen, and Harold. And no is pointing out the one kid skating at full speed in the house?

Furrynomous 2023/10/31 04:14:25 No.2346173

>>2346172
If you had to babysit that many kids at once, the one that's quietly skating around and not bothering anyone would be the least of your worries.

Furrynomous 2023/11/02 03:21:53 No.2346457

What's next after this? More Zig Zag shit?

Furrynomous 2023/11/02 03:27:06 No.2346459

>>2346457
Eric did say he wanted to focus on some ZZ Studio related content, so it's inevitable.

Edited at 2023/11/02 12:54:01

Furrynomous 2023/11/02 06:19:55 No.2346485

>>2346459
Well, there goes my interest for the next chapter.

Furrynomous 2023/11/03 00:18:08 No.2346588

>>2346459
>>2346485

Well, it might not be such a bad idea, if you read these synopsis I composed for future S-O stories;
>>2333447
>>2333444
>>2318581

After all in them ZZ;
* Proves her worth in the ring (twice)
* Fixes up a house, drives a steam locomotive and defeats a gang of thieves.
* Non-sexually wins over a case in Congress.
* Rescues an inheritance for one of her own cast members.
* And even helps clean up the streets of Victorian London to make it safer for the Night-Walkers.

Though through most of them she does;
* Get Sabrina involved, against her will (or gets herself involved with Sabrina's life - even when asked NOT to)
* Showed Sabrina up both camping and in the ring (again, twice)
* Accidentally let Shelia shut down the parish magazine due to not proof-testing her crossword puzzle contribution.
* Almost showed Sabrina up over how NOT to dress for a funeral (or behave at one either)
* Robbed the Victorian crooks and blaggards, by acting as a street-walker herself and even sleeping with those she'd rescued (both male and female) only to turn back into Endora in the morning, and occasionally landing her alter-ego in hot water.
* In the wrestling ring, despite passing them off as a tag-team, unknowingly hogs all the work Sabrina does in ring, including all the glory.

Least I have found a way to make viewers not to loose interest or faith in EWS's works, even if ZZ might be the main character in the stories...

Furrynomous 2023/11/04 10:28:03 No.2346732

Ugh, more Mary-Sue stories for her holy horniness.

Furrynomous 2023/11/04 16:18:33 No.2346761

There's no way to please you guys, is there?

At some point you guys need to make peace with the fact that this series is never going to abandon the ZZ studios setting or its characters.

Sabrina Online didn't have some fall from grace when ZigZag was introduced because it was never a rich storytelling experience to begin with.

Furrynomous 2023/11/04 16:31:52 No.2346763

It's not Zig Zag or the studio people have a problem with.

It's that EWS doesn't DO anything with the cast there other than have them sit around talking like they're in a Kevin Smith movie.

Furrynomous 2023/11/04 17:12:10 No.2346767

>>2346763

Not to mention the fact that many characters dissappear and have lost focus almost entirely, while Eric can rarely seem to come up with a story or plot line that isn't about them or doesn't focus on them more heavily that anyone else.

At this point he ought to just get rid of the Sabrina Online title altogether, and just call it Zig Zag Studios since Sabrina can barely be the center of her own story anymore. The majority of the focus seem to be all about Zig Zag and her studio friends/employees, with spatterings of Sabrina, Tabitha, Daniel and RC thrown in every once in a while.

Furrynomous 2023/11/06 18:07:55 No.2347031

The worse part is that Eric just figured out what to put Tabitha in, even if the struggle wasn't all that great for her. If he just took the time to learn what he can do with his normal SO cast, there wouldn't need to be so much ZZ Studio related stuff, of which he somehow also wastes in this comic.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 00:48:52 No.2347270

y'know, I see all this complaining, but I don't see any of you *doing anything*

like, write a fic, draw a comic, do SOMETHING if you really want to fix all the problems you're complaining about

or do you just want to keep whining like bitches because you like the sound?

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 01:30:17 No.2347276

Soooo, when do we get to see spike banging the babysitter?

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 01:52:14 No.2347277

>>2347276
Dude! The sitter in this story is a literal child! Also, I could've sworn Spike and Carli had a monogamous relationship.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 01:58:32 No.2347278

>>2347270
*clap clap clap*
Yes, because writing actual fanfiction not tied to a canon story magically fixes the problems of a comic. Or better yet, helps you wanting to ignore both criticisms and hate comments to enjoy your basic slice-of-life sitcom webcomic.

Have you forgotten this site has a Fap Mode button? Maybe use that so you can better ignore everyone and not want to hear us "bitch about it" everytime you come in here.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 02:34:04 No.2347279

>>2347278
>Yes, because writing actual fanfiction not tied to a canon story magically fixes the problems of a comic.
it doesn't - and the sarcasm isn't necessary - but it would give you a chance to do with the characters what the lot of you keep saying Eric won't do with them

besides, all of your bitching and moaning isn't going to make Eric suddenly make his comics in a way that makes you happy

so yeah, if you don't like what he's doing with those characters, you can either ignore him and do something better or pay him a shitload of money to do something better - but whining like an entitled child isn't going to get you what you want

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 02:53:24 No.2347282

>>2347276
I think Tabitha is only 13, so I doubt that will ever happen.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 05:03:23 No.2347291

>>2347277

I think EWS has drawn Carli and Spike sharing Zig Zag a couple times.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 05:46:48 No.2347295

>>2347276
It's not art but I'm writing a fic about that. My premise isn't that far off from Carli and Spike's conversation a couple strips back about hiring escorts for each other. Either Carli hires Tabitha without her knowing for Spike to blow off some steam or they talk her into being a babysitting side piece.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 14:20:51 No.2347330

>>2347291
He has not. You're probably thinking of a few fureverick fan arts where this happens.

Furrynomous 2023/11/09 17:30:58 No.2347346

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Furrynomous 2023/11/10 06:41:06 No.2347409

>>2347346
For someone who once said she was anything but a home wrecker, this doesnt really help her case.

Furrynomous 2023/11/10 09:06:01 No.2347421

>>2347409
I don't see how. Even in a harmless fantasy, Zig is making it an open thing with both partners, rather than cheating on the one.

Furrynomous 2023/11/10 09:27:33 No.2347424

>>2347409
I don't see how a threesome is home wrecking. That's clearly consent from everyone in that imaginary scene she's conjuring up and not actually engaging in.

Furrynomous 2023/11/10 23:19:34 No.2347468

>>2347421
>>2347409

And if ZigZag ever actually DID anything like that, whether intentional or not;
A) It was probably to teach one of them a lesson
&
B) Who would she leave with? The wife (as it takes a woman to know how to please a woman - to quote JollyJack) or the husband (for his package and the sensation of it all)?

Show your work in the comments below...

Furrynomous 2023/11/12 18:32:13 No.2347706

>>2347346
Huh, I was wrong. I had totally forgotten about this one. It's a shame there is no one site that has a comprehensive ews art archive that is well tagged.

Furrynomous 2023/11/17 15:27:09 No.2348146

Whelp, from what I could gleam, it looks like the story is really starting to wind down now that Carli and Spike finally came home. Tabitha probably didn't learn much besides that kids younger than her are annoying and is probably not going to do this again unless better prepared.

Furrynomous 2023/11/17 16:15:33 No.2348149

>>2347706
Considering his artwork is mostly just exclusives slapped on his pay to view website, I don't expect a consistent archive of it all. Even the torrents of his work are outdated.

Furrynomous 2023/11/18 01:13:36 No.2348186

>>2348146
Is there anywhere to find it being upload beyond what's been posted? I wanted to post the page where Justin flips the monopoly board but that's the newest one I've seen.

Furrynomous 2023/11/21 06:20:29 No.2348437

>>2348186
Probably to other working sites like E-Hentai.

Furrynomous 2023/11/22 06:27:49 No.2348517

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From Eric:
>Falling like flies to Karen's swatter.

Furrynomous 2023/11/22 06:28:50 No.2348518

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From Eric:
>Looks like the game might be over.

Furrynomous 2023/11/23 01:33:30 No.2349189

>>2348146
Really like this page. While this story hasn't really had a lot of punch or excitement it is cute to see Tabitha kind of reeling the kids in and even Justin asking permission to flip the board. Marissa and Raoul already passed out is a cute detail too.

Furrynomous 2023/11/24 17:49:02 No.2350756

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From Eric:
>My (in)ability to keep track of several characters' heights is getting a workout here.

Furrynomous 2023/11/24 17:50:23 No.2350758

There's the ego boost that's seen with a lot of these characters.

Furrynomous 2023/11/24 19:23:37 No.2350800

>>2350756
Marissa adorably sleeping on Tabitha's legs, too cute.

Furrynomous 2023/11/24 23:36:14 No.2350901

damn if Harold breaks shit, you gotta give people a heads up prior XD

Furrynomous 2023/11/25 00:06:46 No.2350918

>>2350901
We are talking about the same woman that threw this tween to her pack of wolfchilla kids with no prior warning to begin with. I have very little faith in her.

Furrynomous 2023/11/25 04:07:56 No.2350998

>>2350901
>>2350918
Don't forget she told the older sister of this tween that she wasn't afraid to throw anyone under the bus even if they were related to their friend, so yeah. Girl cares about getting dicked by her husband than being a good friend or a responsibility mother/adult, regardless of what she said in that bar when she was accused of this.

Edited at 2023/11/25 04:08:57

Furrynomous 2023/11/25 21:37:07 No.2351372

>>2350918
>>2350998
And yet, she's one of the more better characters. To me, at least.

Furrynomous 2023/11/26 01:44:29 No.2351406

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From Eric:
>Time to call the ride service - Familyft.

Furrynomous 2023/11/26 01:48:24 No.2351407

>>2351406
Wait. Then how did Tabitha not see him out there when she was checking the address to the house? Does this mean he came back as soon as she walked into the home just to mess with her?

Furrynomous 2023/11/26 01:57:51 No.2351408

>>2351406
He didn't even call an ambulance for the pizza guy. What a prick.

Furrynomous 2023/11/26 02:53:13 No.2351416

Think the whole gang is going to have a goodbye moment with Tabitha or just one or two specific? I could see Justin getting the last word with her, but Eric might give Marissa or even Raoul a try.

SomeoneElse 2023/11/26 22:58:22 No.2351559

>>2351408
Neither did the parents, ...

Furrynomous 2023/11/26 23:03:32 No.2351560

>>2351559
They're probably used to that by now.

Furrynomous 2023/12/16 02:44:42 No.2353434

Does anyone have any new pages? The Kemono is unfortunately out of date.

Furrynomous 2023/12/16 04:12:22 No.2353455

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From Eric:
>I imagine the kids' sleeping quarters lie somewhere between 'Brady Bunch' and military barracks.

Furrynomous 2023/12/16 05:56:48 No.2353504

>>2353455
Oh this is very cute. Glad Elise is getting a bit of time to shine, an adorable chatterbox but of course he had to make her sad in the fourth panel.

Furrynomous 2023/12/18 11:19:13 No.2354671

>>2353455
The amount of stories one could tell with characters like these guys should be more than this.

Furrynomous 2023/12/18 11:22:44 No.2354672

>>2353455
Geez this story is nearing the finish line. I am not looking forward to a year of this with ZZ Studio members if the next storyline will take the artist as long as this supposedly short story.

Furrynomous 2023/12/18 23:20:23 No.2354945

So I guess EWS is writing these arcs so they can be published in book form?

That's the only reason I can see for making this arc run for almost a full year.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 05:37:57 No.2355016

>>2354671
>>2354672

As clunky, messy and overall unimportant the story was, with it feeling like Tabitha didn't really get challenged at all I am happy that it exists.

Hopefully Tabitha shows a bit more growth in the future and while the horde is probably going to be ignored by EWS sooner than later, I feel like he might use them for the end of the year Christmas group pic he usually does.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 07:31:20 No.2355073

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>>2355016
>Hopefully Tabitha shows a bit more growth in the future

Edited at 2023/12/19 07:33:25

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 08:04:29 No.2355086

>>2353455

Damn I feel bad for Elise. She looks like the shy, non talkative type and when she speaks her mind to her own mother, she's shot down, and looks crushed because of it.

Letting your child speak to you, (no matter how much YOU think that it's unimportant in the moment), doesn't mean it's not super important to the child and can uplift their spirits and make them more outgoing and confident while they grow up.

Let the girl speak!

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 14:10:03 No.2355184

>>2355086
Yeah that whole "You don't have to talk so much" line felt kinda randomly mean for no reason? Out of character too.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 15:44:15 No.2355205

>>2355086
Yeah I didn't want to focus on that, I was just happy to see her coming out of her shell a bit but seeing her mom shoot her down like that was pretty sad. Kid definitely has some emotional support and communication issues at hand.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 18:48:00 No.2355264

Especially since Carli herself was supposed to be a motor-mouth in her early appearances.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 21:11:46 No.2355317

>>2355264
True and it's probably well known that she doesn't talk to strangers so if she's actually opening up and excited like this it would be a good idea to nuture it.

I don't think EWS ever thought most of the feedback from this comic is how awful Carli behaves.

Furrynomous 2023/12/19 22:59:58 No.2355336

>>2354945

No more than other webcomic artists like Bill Holbrook would do if you look at HIS works...

Furrynomous 2023/12/20 00:06:17 No.2355346

>>2355336
At least there's more happening in his comics than Eric's one comic.

Furrynomous 2023/12/20 08:17:36 No.2355498

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>>2355016
Had a feeling this was the case. Don't know if it was already up when I wrote this previously.

There's a random third girl Justin is kicking off there. Elise getting shut down by her mom so recently just makes her distance away from her parents a bit odd.

Furrynomous 2023/12/20 11:08:34 No.2355525

>>2355498
From Eric:
>Finally featuring the entirety of Carli & Spike's family, though Shaun only visible from the waist down.

Furrynomous 2023/12/20 22:34:42 No.2355800

>>2355016
Unfortunately, that is the case with Eric's story telling.

Furrynomous 2023/12/21 02:55:19 No.2355857

>>2355525

Weird that Shaun get's name dropped but the new girl, rollerblades and glasses climbing the tree don't get name dropped.

I do like Raoul trying to be cool looking and Harold just looks dopey cute, surprised Eric didn't just repeat him trying to eat something.

Furrynomous 2023/12/21 03:10:35 No.2355859

Or puking

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 05:08:26 No.2356186

>>2355317
>I don't think EWS ever thought most of the feedback from this comic is how awful Carli behaves.

I think he does. Characters have called out on each other for their poor behavior, but it's always in a weird "ha ha so funny and quirky" vibes. Characters like Carli, Sabrina, Zig Zag or even Endora can acknowledge their problems and say they're trying to improve as a person, but it's always hollow since Eric isn't really interested in writing an actual story with legit character growth.

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 16:14:41 No.2356357

Gotta remember that one of EWS' biggest influences was "The Simpsons".

How many times has THAT show had a character acknowledge their faults or learn a lesson only to be back to square one next episode?

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 17:02:31 No.2356373

>>2355184
I think its meant to imply that Elise never shuts up around people shes comfortable with. So her parents and siblings? Motor mouth. Tabitha (for now)? Not a word.

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 18:16:49 No.2356408

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In the aftermath, Sabrina and Carli learn more about their contrasts.

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 20:27:49 No.2356443

>>2356408
GIF brand peanit butter! The poifect peanit butter for an "Animated" life

Furrynomous 2023/12/22 23:25:33 No.2356473

Sounds like Schwartz was slightly triggered.

Furrynomous 2023/12/23 07:16:09 No.2356608

>>2356408
I guess Sabrina figured out a the perfect password if Danielle has to ask for her to turn it off for her.

Furrynomous 2023/12/23 07:17:55 No.2356611

>>2356408
Better take it, Sabrina. That's the closes apology that will ever come out of her mouth at this point.

Edited at 2023/12/23 07:24:46

Furrynomous 2023/12/23 18:50:35 No.2356692

>>2355016
>>2355800

Least my stories I've written up here might help improve on that...

Furrynomous 2023/12/24 01:14:45 No.2356768

>>2356408
Which stories are you talking about?

Furrynomous 2023/12/24 10:24:00 No.2356819

>>2356768

You'll find the links to those synopses here;

>>2346588

Furrynomous 2023/12/24 11:57:56 No.2356828

I don't understand this veneration of Zig Zag.

Is there some sort of rule in the fandom that she has to be good at EVERYTHING she does?

Furrynomous 2023/12/24 23:44:03 No.2356900

>>2356828

Well, not GOOD, but it shows that she can do things without the need for sexual traits or violence...even if she let's it go to her head(!)

Furrynomous 2024/01/08 14:40:47 No.2359550

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From Eric:
>"What war?" - "Pick one."

>And we finish up this particular chapter. I'll be taking a month or two off to build up and organize story ideas for the next comic, tentatively titled "Stripes and Links", but I'll try to pop in occasionally with updates and news were I can. Until then have a good New Year, and let's all hope 2024 won't be a complete worldwide clusterbludgeon as much as it apparently wants to be.

Furrynomous 2024/01/08 14:49:45 No.2359557

Do Warren and Endora just not have a current home console for Tabitha to play with? They were able to afford standard high-speed internet and PC games for her in the past.

Edited at 2024/01/09 17:46:10

Furrynomous 2024/01/09 01:22:41 No.2359733

Why is Tabitha playing an Atari? I figured she'd have an XBOX or something

Furrynomous 2024/01/09 13:02:16 No.2359792

Because EWS had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 2010s and he'll be damned if he admits the Atari and Desktop gaming eras are over.

Furrynomous 2024/01/10 06:09:42 No.2359930

I love it, it's just one guy constantly ragging on EWS and replying to his own comments lol.

Imagine being like this.

Furrynomous 2024/01/11 10:14:22 No.2360099

>>2359550
It's always the IPhone people want. Never an Android.

Furrynomous 2024/01/11 17:37:48 No.2360185

So, "Stripes and Links".

Sounds like everyone who wanted more Tina is going to get it eventually.

Furrynomous 2024/01/11 21:56:54 No.2360217

>>2360185
Yeah, but it also means Zig Zag will be attached to the story too.

Furrynomous 2024/01/12 00:53:51 No.2360235

>>2359930
You thought I was replying to my own comment? Boy are you convoluted. No, I did not. I asked why Tabitha was playing an Atari, that's pretty much it.

>>2360099
I prefer Andoid actually. I can't stand Iphones. My uncle's family all have them, and are constantly in flux between liking and hating them. I've used Samsung since my first smartphone, and that suits me well.

Furrynomous 2024/01/17 02:48:10 No.2361303

>>2359792
So he's allergic to current tech but not current memes, shows and trends? How very selective.

Edited at 2024/01/17 05:26:07

Furrynomous 2024/01/17 02:52:54 No.2361306

>>2360235

I have an android also, iPhones are just too expensive.

Furrynomous 2024/01/17 09:54:48 No.2361346

>>2361303
You make a good point. You'd think EWS would be resurrecting a ton of dead memes in this comic.

>>2361306
I-phones are not only too expensive, they're highly overrated and over-hyped. Plus Apple devices you own auto link with each other. Hack into one, and you can get into the others. Fixing Apple products is a bitch too. There are times I've heard of very poor service, unjustified delays, and endless up-selling. Using Android is not only easier, it's safer and cheaper. I've bought three tablets for my nephews that ran Android, and they had no complaints.

Furrynomous 2024/03/09 03:03:38 No.2364414

Updating this due to a new Sabrina-Online story being out now...

Furrynomous 2024/03/09 03:05:29 No.2364415

Updating this due to a new Sabrina-Online story being out now...

Furrynomous 2024/03/09 03:27:12 No.2364416

So a new story is out now...

Furrynomous 2024/03/12 10:25:50 No.2364559

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From Eric:
>This story might be a bit different.

Furrynomous 2024/03/12 10:26:36 No.2364560

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From Eric:
>This page brought to you by instantaneous regret.

Furrynomous 2024/03/12 10:31:18 No.2364563

This isn't even the first time the two have kissed each other. Yeah, they weren't beer buddies back then and they're both drunk now, but come on.

Eric better actually be doing things "a bit different" because a story with Zig Zag is going to be complete bullshit.

Edited at 2024/03/12 10:32:38

Furrynomous 2024/03/13 00:08:40 No.2364751

>>2364560
Endora: "I can't believe the sex worker with severe nymphomania kissed me!"

>>2364563
At this point, part of me questions if the author is also going through some form of selective amnesia as much as Endy does daily.

Furrynomous 2024/03/13 04:53:31 No.2364828

>>2364560
>>2364563

Calling it now: Zig Zag will think Endora now hates her, meanwhile Endora is going all "Oh God, what is this feeling? I never felt anything before";

And the whole plot will be Zig Zag trying to apologize to Endora while she tries to hide from her due to this new feeling, with the usual shenanigans from Sabrina Online ensuing

Furrynomous 2024/03/13 09:06:46 No.2364857

>>2364828
>And the whole plot will be Zig Zag trying to apologize to Endora while she tries to hide from her due to this new feeling, with the usual shenanigans from Sabrina Online ensuing

Outside of just guessing the plot, where in Eric's posts did you get that synopsis from?

>Calling it now: Zig Zag will think Endora now hates her, meanwhile Endora is going all "Oh God, what is this feeling? I never felt anything before";

Been thinking that too. It might actually make that prudish skunk interesting to read for once.

Edited at 2024/03/13 09:09:20

Furrynomous 2024/03/19 05:09:04 No.2366318

>>2364751
>At this point, part of me questions if the author is also going through some form of selective amnesia as much as Endy does daily.

Honestly, maybe Sabrina's not!future sight may have been accurate with predicting Endora would be getting Alzheimer's Disease, or at least maybe some early stages of dementia. While shocking that she got a non-consensual peck on the lips, this isn't even the first time Ziggy did this to her.

Furrynomous 2024/03/20 20:34:48 No.2366720

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From Eric:
>Fleeing from the scene of the crime.

Furrynomous 2024/03/20 20:37:15 No.2366721

This weirdly feels like a conversation Sabrina and Richard would be having. I can't be the only one feeling this.

Furrynomous 2024/03/20 23:48:41 No.2366744

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From Eric:
>Looks like someone called 'Lynx Uber', or 'Luber'.

Furrynomous 2024/03/21 05:47:20 No.2366822

>>2366721
I mean, that's pretty much the point. The next page has Zig Zag confirm the fact the two are the same on a surface level. Now the only question here is if Zig Zag will actually learn from this and not regress in her supposed "character development" again like the rest of the cast often do.

Furrynomous 2024/03/29 12:45:20 No.2368586

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From Eric:
>I imagine it would be similar if one had a hardcore gamer roomie.

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:43:26 No.2383567

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Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:43:37 No.2383568

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>>2383567

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:43:50 No.2383569

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>>2383567

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:44:09 No.2383570

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>>2383567

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:51:45 No.2383571

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Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:51:54 No.2383572

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>>2383571

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:52:04 No.2383573

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>>2383571

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:52:20 No.2383574

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>>2383571

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:52:34 No.2383575

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>>2383571

Furrynomous 2024/06/17 04:59:03 No.2383576

Seems like I'm able to get inside here without the need of Fap Mode. What a waste.

>>2383575
You know, there's only so much advice a person can give you that's basically just "maybe don't fuck or molest your friends without consent" before even a therapist finds you impossible to counsel.

Furrynomous 2024/06/23 02:20:34 No.2385228

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From Eric:
>Truly sage advice you can't get just anywhere.

Furrynomous 2024/06/23 03:40:40 No.2385241

Fans keep telling me how wrong I am for saying Zig Zag (and maybe the rest of the cast) hasn't learned a damn thing and that it's silly to take a comic with sit-com television roots in it with anything critical in mind, yet over a decade later we're back in Dr. Black's office once again giving Zig Zag the basic advice he's said before in the past about her impulsive behavior that poses some harm in her life.

Either I'm thinking too hard or the author hasn't really done anything different in this story like he said he'd do.

Furrynomous 2024/06/23 04:20:10 No.2385251

>>2385241
Nah, your not thinking too hard dude. Your on the money. If all goes as predicted, ZZ will end this session either a quickie or a handjob.

Edited at 2024/06/23 04:21:38

Furrynomous 2024/06/23 10:56:32 No.2385324

Going by how the last couple of arcs went, we're probably going to get another flashback to Zig Zag's crappy childhood and her sicko dad.

Furrynomous 2024/06/24 23:56:55 No.2385668

>>2385324
I am honestly curious if we will finally see ZZ's siblings this time

Furrynomous 2024/06/25 00:49:26 No.2385678

>>2385241
No you're pretty much right. It's a problem of the creator never having any fan tell him no and just repeating past plot points because nobody really cares about ZZ or these characters unless they grew up in the 90's and saw these characters way back when buying furry smut was as easy as calling a number and getting a magazine mailed to your box.

It's been sad to see legacy of these characters muddled around because the creator never evolved or matured and is just a stagnate reminder of a bygone era.

Threads. Furrynomous 2024/06/27 00:20:12 No.2386194

>>2385228
Can we keep to posting the new pages and discussion on that other thread? It's unfortunate that people had to make a new one as a workaround but it seems better to continue it there. Otherwise things are just going to get really disjointed.

>>2369127

Furrynomous 2024/06/27 05:49:11 No.2386254

>>2386194
Not unless a mod locks this thread then maybe users will "reconsider".

Furrynomous 2024/06/30 02:44:15 No.2386879

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From Eric:
>Time to go farming for bananas and nuts.

Furrynomous 2024/06/30 02:47:41 No.2386880

Are suppressed memories really a thing? It's not like Zig's problems are all that deep. Child abuse is overly common. At least Sabrina Online fans can pat themselves on the back over the obvious belief that Zig Zag sees Sab's parents as the only authority figures she actually respects.

Furrynomous 2024/06/30 16:47:10 No.2386973

>>2386880
In real life? Certainly not. In fact, the idea of "repressed memories" circulated in psychotherapy was actually discovered to be a quite harmful phenomenon, "implanted memories". Memory is a quite malleable collection of senses strung together by chemical synapses, and if you repeatedly interrogate certain responses, you can quite easily influence them to change. Eyewitness testimony for example is extremely unreliable in court, because repeated police interrogation has shown to change witnesses' perception of events to match what they were told during the interrogation. Questions such as "what color was the stoplight" could convince people over time that there WAS a stoplight at a street with only stop signs. This is why "repressed memory psychotherapy" is a huge sham, basically you're adding up all the weird idiosyncrasies of a person's home life and convincing them it was actually much worse than they remember.

Furrynomous 2024/06/30 18:51:33 No.2386987

>>2386973
Next you'll be saying photographic memory and multiple competing personalities don't happen in real life either.

Furrynomous 2024/06/30 20:13:04 No.2387024

>>2386987
they do, but such cases are incredibly rare and they don't tend to be like what you've seen in movies and TV

but yeah, "suppressed memories" therapy is bullshit

Furrynomous 2024/07/04 03:19:55 No.2387866

>>2385668
Doubt it. We never even seen her “sicko dad”. Maybe in a flashback, but even that was nothing but a silhouette.

Furrynomous 2024/07/04 13:10:34 No.2387947

You know what might be interesting if we're going to hear about Zig Zag's psychology again?

Instead of her dad, how about her mom? According to MBR's backstory, her mom was just as much of an abusive asshole as her husband, even condoning it on occasion with the reason of "as least he's not beating/raping me this time".

That might explain why Zig Zag hangs out with someone like Endora.

Furrynomous 2024/07/05 11:22:41 No.2388089

You know, I decided to look back at that old story of Zig Zag that everyone loves to parade around when you criticize Eric's portrayal of her in this comic and to say that it's a laughable excuse of character growth is an understatement. The whole therapy thing she was doing with Dr. Black only amounted to him stating brass and obvious facts and problems with Zig Zag, things her character should've taken and improved on in the comic over these years, yet it's only there to talk about how cool and strong she was for enduring trauma and becoming a sex worker as a way to "control her faith" and shit. We are never going to see any further development or showcase of her Zig's father, grandparents or siblings, so I doubt her mother will have any relevancy since Eric never really cared all that much for the backstory besides the fact she was made one by old fans.

Also, the trend of Eric having his characters talk about how "strong they've become" or how much they've "grown since the start" instead of showing that growth consistently or at all really did start in the original run. His writing really hasn't changed all that much between the transitions and "scale".

Furrynomous 2024/07/05 11:32:56 No.2388093

>>2298903
Well, makeup and the author deciding to drop an unlikeable trait he was never going to actual do and have the character naturally out grow it over the course of the comic are two similar things.

Edited at 2024/07/05 11:35:03

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 03:42:23 No.2388360

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>Another impromptu therapy session concludes the same way it usually does.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 04:02:46 No.2388363

You know, for a therapist you'd think Black would also bring up Zig Zag's very obvious narcissism too. Her obsession with getting a quick fix and taking advantage of her friends, the people she keeps bribing with her fame and body, her then selfish use of those she calls her "friends" whenever she's looking for said quick fix, her inability to reflect on her poor behavior without her actions negatively impacting her in a way she doesn't like (and even then it feels like there's some form of self-pity whenever these problems happen), and her immediate defense to past it all off as "having fun". All of these, and possibly more that I missed, are things I'm annoyed that this therapist never really brings up, or doesn't bring it up in any hard way like he should. Not helping his case when he's also extremely weak-willed enough to once again have sex with the person he knows is taking advantage of him, although a character in this universe saying no to Zig Zag's sexual advances seems to be a regular occurrence in Eric's writing.

Edited at 2024/07/07 04:04:39

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 04:04:11 No.2388364

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>>2388360
The only commenter that isn't kissing up to Zig Zag or using the "wah child abuse" excuse.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 12:15:29 No.2388499

Man, Zig Zag is becoming more and more like a sociopath.

She completely brushes off what this guy is saying to her because it's not what she wants to hear.

"I'm feeling a little used."
"So? Isn't it worth it to sleep with me?"

Adding in the "I'm a famous porn star, so you should be thrilled to be in the room with me" is just another boost to her ego.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 16:06:38 No.2388551

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>>2388364
Finally, a patreon with common sense.

Edited at 2024/07/07 16:34:01

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 16:47:50 No.2388561

You do realize we are talking about COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS, don't you?

I think some people are just taking this HUMOR comic a little too seriously.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 17:06:39 No.2388562

>>2388561
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If the story wants to dive in once again and talk about Zig Zag's clear issues with controlling her sexual urges both minor and major in a serious as serious as Sabrina Online can reach, then there really shouldn't be this constant flip flop just to for humor sakes about this problem. The whole fiction argument stops working at that point and if someone like Eric isn't going to actually present a serious narrative because these are "comic book characters" again then he really needs to stop trying to. He's failed to actually develop these characters in any natural way that didn't require saying they've developed while showing so little.

Edited at 2024/07/08 09:02:28

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 17:12:20 No.2388564

>>2388561
Then don't have conflict or drama like this presented in the story. I'm getting real tired of readers saying this just because they still want to turn off their brain and laugh at the unfunny porn character.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 17:26:48 No.2388566

I'm wondering, are we SUPPOSED to like Zig Zag in this arc?

I know EWS has a mad-on for her. But at least 3 other characters have told her what she did was wrong without it being played like they're over-reacting, closed-minded jerks for telling her off.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 21:00:26 No.2388629

>>2388566
Maybe she’s gonna have a come to Jesus moment?
She realizes that life isn’t a porno where you can just go to the house of an online hater and fuck his mom as revenge(also proving him right)

There isn’t really a non-porn solution that doesn’t reality check zig

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 21:10:42 No.2388631

At this rate, Eric should just do what he seems to be currently doing with Endora so far and just remove the rapey parts of Zig's character unceremoniously.

Furrynomous 2024/07/07 22:15:43 No.2388640

>>2388631
Second this.

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 06:39:27 No.2388697

>>2388562
Yeah I try to not take it too seriously and excuse some pretty weak writing, but kind of exactly this.

Eric can't seem to settle on whether or not he wants to be serious or almost fly in the face of the issues kind of comedy. and just to be clear I'm not opposed to him doing a completely, play it straight serious moment where Zig finally learns to control herself, but I don't think we're getting much closer with her riding her therapist who also again, admits he's feeling used by the uncontrollable urges porn star.

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 08:21:36 No.2388709

>>2388360

Okay, I wasn't expecting it to go THAT way(!)

Surely, he's old enough to be ZigZag's father, right?

(I mean, even ZigZag has her limitations on who she wants to have a go at. After all, she made sure to draw the line at Tabitha after their photo session together back in 2009)

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 08:43:29 No.2388712

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>>2388709

Bro, this isn't even the first time she's fucked this guy. That's pretty much what ruined their professional relationship to begin with. Whatever her standards and decency are, they seem to really depend on whatever the writer finds funny. For those complaining about Zig's common sense and where her sense of understanding lie in, there's your problem.

Edited at 2024/07/08 16:36:18

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 09:14:02 No.2388716

>>2388561
I'll be honest, I don't know what to feel about this. I can't tell if I'm supposed to laugh or even care to take anything in this story serious and that might actually be the problem here. I was sold on the idea of this story being "different" like what Eric said, but so far very little has shown for that besides Endora's reaction to being snogged on and Warren not taking Zig's shallow apology for not respecting his wife's boundaries.

Also, what happened to that side story with Tina? I think she had something to do with moving out due to her landlord selling the property she lived in underneath her.

Edited at 2024/07/08 09:15:38

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 11:42:53 No.2388732

Welp, aside from banging her former therapist, she is actively seeking to better herself, in her own way. This could be hopefully a redemptionarc for her, which I really do hope Schwartz has planned.
Other than that I also hope she gets knocked up by the former therapist at some point. They seem to compliment eachother pretty good, even looking past Zig beseeching his advices.

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 15:16:13 No.2388816

I don't know. It seems like she's not seeking redemption as much as vindication. She wants everyone to accept what she did wasn't a big deal.

Notice in the original strip and in the new one, she asks her therapist if "it was worth it". As if getting someone to break whatever ethics or morals they have to screw her justifies her actions.

Furrynomous 2024/07/08 23:12:48 No.2388900

>>2388816
That might be what she wants, but the characters and story so far won’t permit that.
Unless we get “it was all a dream”, there is going to be a reckoning(I’m hoping for a restraining order)

Furrynomous 2024/07/10 04:37:47 No.2389227

>>2388712
Whenever ZigZag is involved, the plot eventually comes to "and then they fucked."

Whether or not the reader is OK with that doesn't matter. It's what the character is ultimately all about.

Furrynomous 2024/07/10 06:12:04 No.2389236

You know, at least with Simpsons, before whichever season started its downhill slide, the writers at least tried coming up with enough outlandish plots to keep the cast in more interesting stories and events. Eric could try getting more out of his comfort zone so these storylines wouldn't become so stale on the get go and maybe it could get people in here to stop complaining about the same crap over and over again.

Furrynomous 2024/07/11 22:00:24 No.2389703

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>>2389236
He did do that. Once with Tabitha, and that was the last chapter before this. And that was just a fluke as far as I'm concerned as we went back to this plot immediately.

I mean, I know the babysitting story with Tabitha was always meant to be a short one while the one with Zig Zag was the real story Eric wanted to focus on since the beginning, but you have to admit this was just a blue moon chance.

Furrynomous 2024/07/16 10:33:33 No.2391636

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>I think she just wants to get away from all the lavender in this room.

Furrynomous 2024/07/16 13:31:34 No.2391661

So rather than confront her issues like everyone kept telling her, Zig is just going to run-off?

I guess that makes sense for her character. She did the same thing when she ditched her family for Hollywood.

Furrynomous 2024/07/16 15:35:36 No.2391670

You know, this is getting simsons level stuff and not from the classics.

Furrynomous 2024/07/16 16:34:41 No.2391682

>>2391636
I guess this is in the 'guise of a self-discovery trip which might turn true in the end, just not sure why, though.

Furrynomous 2024/07/17 15:17:43 No.2391929

No kidding; EWS could have started the arc here, and nothing would be different.

Furrynomous 2024/07/17 21:04:04 No.2391988

>>2391636
>"I could use someone to keep me company, keep me on track, and keep my worst impulses in check. Mostly help protect me from myself".

ADHD must take the form of sex to Zig because that all read to me like she just needs to fuck someone while "discovering herself" out on the open road. This might be petulant to say, but I swear she couldn't function without a dildo on hand to keep parts of her mind distracted.

Furrynomous 2024/07/17 21:38:52 No.2391993

It's even weirder when one remembers Tina is usually the one to cheer on Zig Zag's nastier impulses with excuses.

Furrynomous 2024/07/17 22:56:56 No.2392031

>>2391636
I still, and always will, totally ship them.

Furrynomous 2024/07/18 02:39:37 No.2392099

>>2392031
If only Zig Zag wasn't repulsed by commitment then the two would've probably married.

Furrynomous 2024/07/18 11:15:13 No.2392163

On the other hand, it's not like we've seen Tina eager to walk down the aisle with anyone.

During Stacy and Tracy's comic, she wanted to get gangbanged by all the boys.

Furrynomous 2024/07/19 06:46:33 No.2392339

>>2392163
Anyone else felt like that comic was pretty mundane compared to the other NSFW comics under EWS thumb?

Furrynomous 2024/07/19 17:31:49 No.2392394

I think all that needed to be said about that comic was already covered here.

https://u18chan.com/c/topic/2312446

Furrynomous 2024/07/19 21:33:33 No.2392425

>>2392339
So was Holly & Doug, but that didn't stop a lot of users from loving it.

Edited at 2024/07/19 21:34:20

Furrynomous 2024/07/21 17:58:21 No.2392579

>>2391636
Why do I get the feeling that this trip of self-discovery is gonna go about as well as her revenge tour.

Furrynomous 2024/07/22 00:34:41 No.2392605

Probably with more screwing and less strawmen.

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 14:28:18 No.2392835

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>>2391636

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 20:07:31 No.2392915

I really don’t understand why EWS doesn't just retire Sabrina and start a new webcomic focused on ZigZag.

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 20:14:58 No.2392916

>>2392915
Branding reasons probably. It's what made him the most well known outside of his old Amiga animations.

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 20:39:13 No.2392918

>>2392835

>Time for a bit of backstory!

Wow. There was just no proper transition there. Just suddenly we're trusted into backstory territory between these two with no prompts. At least Meeting of the Moms had a narrative device to explain Carli and Spike's first meetup.

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 21:30:48 No.2392949

It's even worse than that.
Zig and Tina are supposed to be longtime friends. They should already know this about each other.

It's not like these two are explaining how they met to Sabrina or another 3rd party.

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 23:19:16 No.2392990

>>2391636

The last two panels sound like the beginning of the camping trip story I had penned to EWS.

At the start, ZigZag is in a slump as her cast and crew don't seem to have enough raw passion in their work, so Rainflower (Richard's hippy mother) invites her and her cast and crew onto her camping trip with her family and in-laws - all behind Sabrina's back, mind.

The story ends with ZigZag and her team invigorated - except for Darke who ended up getting mistaken for a Bigfoot by other campers and captured by rangers and scientists - and Sabrina completely the worst off she's ever been...especially as she finds out both her parents and her parent-in-laws ditched the lot of them, following Endora having a yoga-related accident, and are lapping it up in the luxury of ZigZag's RV, whilst the rest were roughing it...

Furrynomous 2024/07/24 23:23:32 No.2392991

>>2392949
Oh right. This is just a bad writer move where the backstory is only meant for the viewers instead of the characters.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 01:04:07 No.2393011

I'm wondering if Max Blackrabbit signed off on this or at least getting a cut of the Patreon.

Hopefully he's getting a little compensation since this arc is so focused on his characters rather than EWS's.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 01:59:28 No.2393019

>>2393011
As much as I'm against Eric making Zig Zag and Tina so heavily focused on, you make it sound like the guy has to pay royalties for eating all of the screentime.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 02:05:35 No.2393021

Maybe not royalties. But it seems weird that EWS is so focused on the two characters he didn't create in lieu of a large cast he actually owns.

Maybe if this was a separate one-shot it wouldn't bother me so much.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 02:45:33 No.2393030

>>2393021
I see it as the guy finding Zig and Tina more interesting to write compared to his own characters.

Edited at 2024/07/25 06:08:03

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 10:14:45 No.2393072

What does that say about a writer, being uninterested in his own characters?

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 10:31:14 No.2393073

>>2393072
Eric should've moved on to other comic ideas, like Holly & Doug or created a spin-off with the ZZ cast then, but won't since this comic still makes him cash.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 10:55:30 No.2393076

Wouldn't a series based around Zig Zag be as profitable? She's practically the main character already.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 11:25:44 No.2393078

>>2393076
He probably just saves her for the porn. I don't know. The guy clearly doesn't seem like he wants to give up this comic no matter how dry of ideas he has for the Sabrina cast.

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 11:48:09 No.2393079

Is it just me, or does this arc feel a little scattershot?

It started with Zig Zag kissing Endora while drunk and dealing with the fallout from that.

Then there was a subplot about Tina needing to find a new apartment/home.

Then it was Zig Zag visits her shrink. Then it was a proposed "self-discovery" road trip for her and Tina. And now we're in what might be an extended flashback.

Sparks 2024/07/25 12:27:11 No.2393081

It's Toy Story, Too all over again! I was trying to avoid saying it, but you've forced my hand!

Furrynomous 2024/07/25 23:04:25 No.2393183

Did Eric just have three story ideas for Zig Zag and decided to smoosh them all together with a loosely connected thread?

Furrynomous 2024/07/26 05:08:27 No.2393238

>>2393183
Let me remind you that this is the story Eric wanted to focus on while the Tabitha storyline was a mini-story.

This one is what had the most focus on while the last story was just something he wanted to work on in-between.

Furrynomous 2024/07/26 13:23:17 No.2393313

Pacing problems aren't anything new with EWS.

At this point, it's clear he's just milking the patreon.

Furrynomous 2024/07/26 16:29:16 No.2393335

It's been clear since the Homecoming storyline.

Furrynomous 2024/07/26 16:40:07 No.2393341

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>Y'know, I'm getting the impression that this strip club is not 100 percent above board.

Furrynomous 2024/07/26 22:35:07 No.2393407

Trying to avoid a "Traci Lords" fiasco, it seems.

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 00:23:19 No.2393422

Damn! Young Tina was gorgeous!

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 02:48:16 No.2393521

>>2393341
You know, with how Tina was the one who gave Zig Zag a better job offer would mean that the lynx should be the owner and boss of ZZ Studios instead of in the manager position. Then again, I also assumed she would be living in an actual house than in an apartment since having a career as porn actress in this world pays far too well.

Edited at 2024/07/27 05:40:05

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 04:58:59 No.2393555

>>2393521
That's assuming Tina was good with her finances back then. She may have been the type to air responsibility to others, but live in the moment in her personal life. Or she was simply comfortable where she lived because she was a single woman. Zig Zag took initiative as a porn star, and bought her own studio with the money she raked in. Tina was her best friend, so she brought her in as a manager. The rest of the people Zig seemed to personally scout. Like it or not, Zig Zag had good business sense. Her style was just dated. Which is why she brought in Sabrina. ....Thinking of that just gave me a funny thought to if EWS were to ever release animated porn movie of Zig Zag's early career, he might sell it on VHS.

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 10:36:47 No.2393596

Tina was probably the reason the studio lasted as long as it did given we've seen Zig Zag willing to completely shrug off work and responsibility to indulge in her various vices, whether paling around with Sabrina, trolling for booty, or hunting down haters.

Her FAD bio establishes that she's no stranger to clerical work and film making to an extant too.

https://www.furafterdark.com/tourTina.html

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 14:39:45 No.2393623

Damn, old school Tina could GET IT.

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 21:16:56 No.2393717

>>2393341

>"18"?

Would that be her hips, chest or waist she was referring to, instead of her age?

Furrynomous 2024/07/27 22:21:41 No.2393727

Anyone else think it's funny that EWS is using this flashback to dump on California while the VP candidate from Ohio has stated he'd support passing legislation that would make pornography illegal in the US?

Edited at 2024/07/27 22:24:22

Furrynomous 2024/07/28 02:05:12 No.2393749

>>2393727
Pretty rich. I'm not sure what the guy thinks of Cali, but I'm going to venture a guess and say that Ohio isn't exactly paradise.

Furrynomous 2024/07/28 02:16:59 No.2393750

>>2393727
We've had stupid politicians trying to ban everything from video games to sleep. The odds of banning porn are astronomically low. Even China doesn't ban it.

Furrynomous 2024/07/28 04:07:01 No.2393763

>>2393727
Oh please. Everyone knows it's the banks and credit card companies who could actually ban porn. Not some out-of-touched politician needing an idiot in charge to enact such a feat.

Furrynomous 2024/07/29 01:35:08 No.2393875

>>2393341

What's really funny is this focus on Zig Zag's age. Yet about decade later she and Tina will both be fine with an 8-year-old girl wandering around a porn studio, taking suggestive photos of her, and considering putting them on the company website.

Furrynomous 2024/07/29 03:02:32 No.2393893

>>2393875
I blame that part on Eric not knowing when to end a joke before it crosses into some weird territory.

Furrynomous 2024/07/29 22:32:26 No.2394147

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>>2393875

Stumbled across this the other day following that page, and who knows, that sounds like something ZigZag in her youth would've done...

Okay, so it's not like becoming a stripper just to pay your way through medical college, or that there would be a student protest like that in (INSERT NAME OF STATE 'Sabrina Online' IS LOCATED IN) that ZigZag would take part in, but it's a good reference of how she could've come by the role at that joint, nonetheless....

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 00:04:47 No.2394154

>>2393596
>>2393341
WAIT....WAIT..
Tina and Zig Zag are 14yrs apart!?
I thought 2-5 at most...

(Currently Tina is 41 and ZZ is 27)
They.. may need to fix that. It really doesn't fit.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 05:22:53 No.2394221

>>2394154
Is that there current age, or the age they were at the time they were introduced? Can't imagine EWS updating they're profiles.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 11:44:44 No.2394327

I think EWS said that Sabrina is now in her 30s.
But Zig Zag is still in her 20s. Because of course she is.

In any case, if he did age the characters even significantly, Tina would be a retiree and Zig would be in her 40s or 50s.

And then she wouldn't be a zany nympho. But a creepy cougar.

Edited at 2024/07/30 13:18:11

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 11:45:06 No.2394328

To quote "The Wedding Singer", no one wants to see 50 year dudes picking up chicks.

Edited at 2024/07/30 11:52:06

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 15:05:31 No.2394343

>>2394327
If Sabrina's in her 30s, I count 34, that would mean Zig would probably be in her later 30s (37), and Tina would definitely be in her mid-50s (55) at most. Maybe there's an advantage making a cougar like her doing horny VTuber chats beneficial now that people won't have to look at her old grandmother body type or whatever grosses people out due to such an age gap.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 15:48:12 No.2394346

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According to this, Zig Zag is currently 29.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 16:06:34 No.2394348

These age discrepancies is probably why Tabitha suddenly became a preteen between the final strip storyline and the beginning of the Baby Steps story, meanwhile Tommy is still around 5 or 6 years old. All of this, yet there's still attempts to write this comic like it has a sliding timeline effect going on.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 16:11:25 No.2394353

>>2394346
Age really is just a number at the end of the day, just like how maturity is just an option we all choose to take.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 16:17:09 No.2394355

>>2392835
You can tell this guy's an ass and a creep because he's wearing a tacky suit, has an ugly mustache, looks like a hobgoblin, and hired a minor before they became a legal adult. Totally different from the chick with pent up anger issues and violent tendencies, constantly forces her herself onto people regardless if they're attracted to her or not, constantly keeps using others for when it benefits her, and attempted to post a scantily suggestive photo of her and one of her employees kids on the front page of her own website. What a great character we stan!

Edited at 2024/07/30 16:20:36

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 17:44:53 No.2394360

>>2393727
>>2394355

Gotta realize that the point of this flashback is to explain why Zig Zag, the world-famous millionaire porn star, is operating out of Ohio instead of L.A. or some other part of Southern California.

According to the much-ballyhooed backstory, Cali's porn scene was too corrupt and misogynistic for her liking. But Columbus, Ohio? Way more open and accepting for her needs. Plus, she wanted to be closer to her siblings. Instead of, say, take THEM as far away from their parents as legally possible.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 21:52:24 No.2394421

>According to the much-ballyhooed backstory, Cali's porn scene was too corrupt and misogynistic for her liking. But Columbus, Ohio? Way more open and accepting for her needs. Plus, she wanted to be closer to her siblings. Instead of, say, take THEM as far away from their parents as legally possible.
I thought it was because she didn't get into Hollywood.

Furrynomous 2024/07/30 22:48:42 No.2394435

She got into PORN because she couldn't get into Hollywood. Outside of a few commercials and VA jobs.

Sparks 2024/07/31 07:18:38 No.2394490

More accurately, she got into prostitution and strip dancing because of California's bigotry.

Furrynomous 2024/08/01 03:23:27 No.2394671

>Cali's porn scene was too corrupt and misogynistic for her liking.
So the woman that’s been known to harass people in/out the office, uses company money on unnecessary amenities, brings in minors to an adult studio, paid her employee extra to data mine her subscribers……….thinks Cali’s porn scene is too corrupt and misogynistic!? Hello, Kettle. Name’s Pot, have we met?

>Instead of, say, take THEM as far away from their parents as legally possible.
I still don’t get why she didn’t do that BEFORE she ran off.

Furrynomous 2024/08/01 05:52:40 No.2394686

>I still don’t get why she didn’t do that BEFORE she ran off.

Best guess is she didn't have the money or legal power to do so until Tina met her and gave her a better employment deal.

Furrynomous 2024/08/01 07:23:35 No.2394695

>>2394686
Did it never occurred to her, or EWS, to call anyone? The police? Child Protection Services? A teacher? Hell, maybe her grandparents (considering they took custody of her siblings after her court case with her parents)? You don’t need money/legal power to call for help.

Edited at 2024/08/01 07:25:49

Furrynomous 2024/08/01 08:52:00 No.2394698

All this talk about how the real world ways a writer could've portrayed a dumb kid wanting to run away from their shitty home and find a job rather than calling any authority figure is such pointless detailing to constantly criticize when it originally came from some dumb horny fan story back in the 90s. I swear, this is why the comic fits much better as a comic strip than a graphic novel with supposed "story arcs". Eric just can't write much worth for character expansions, "lore", or serious drama in wake of a decently paced plot without ending up retreading old grounds or meandering all the way to the end.

Furrynomous 2024/08/01 12:14:16 No.2394713

>>2394671

Remember that most of the backstory was written by another person WWWAAAYYY before EWS turned Zig Zag into the unhinged jerkass she is now.

I think it was said that Zig Zag's family was poor (on top all the other cliches). So CPS, cops, and teachers wrote her off as future white trash anyway.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 07:27:53 No.2395508

Should just rename this comic Zig Zag Online if Eric loves to write her so much instead of his actual characters.

God I hope Zig doesn't just end up bringing practically everyone on this road trip of discovery as an excuse to get close to the only family that even tries to treat her like a function person of society.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 12:45:24 No.2395535

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>I'm guessing those tax forms use a lot of vague terminology.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 12:50:15 No.2395537

I don't think we're learning anything new about these two. This is just an extended version of that one part of Zig's backstory that she was telling her therapist about.

Edited at 2024/08/07 15:30:03

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 14:19:55 No.2395546

>>2395537
That's pretty much ZZ's role in this series so far. Just reestablishing and extending plot points from the old series.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 14:40:40 No.2395548

Is this comic still supposed to be PG-13?

Because it feels like EWS should up the rating if he's going to have all the partial nudity and implied sex.

What will happen when Zig Zag shoots her first movie? That blocking scene from Austin Powers?

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 16:25:59 No.2395632

>>2395535
As 'meh' as this is just going through the origins of ZZ, it could be neat to see how she ended up meeting and recruiting the other members of her studio
MBR was going to do a Sheila origin comic decades ago that was abandoned

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 16:30:04 No.2395633

MBR already did the Sheila origin comic.
She just walked into the studio one day looking for something fun to do.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 19:20:34 No.2395666

Yeah, I think the only ones that haven't had any background are the male pornstars, other than Hoss.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 22:36:00 No.2395680

>>2395666
Another reminder that Eric is disinterested in a majority of his male cast unless they have something to do with his female characters.

Furrynomous 2024/08/07 23:50:07 No.2395696

You know what probably would've added some meat to this? Actually seeing Zig's siblings and grandparents.

Furrynomous 2024/08/08 03:23:03 No.2395731

Maybe we'll see them in a flashback-within-a-flashback if Tina asks Zig Zag about her family.

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 02:53:27 No.2396206

>>2395696
She does keep going on and on about how close they were, and how she was more like a mother than they’re actual mother. Yet I’m willing to bet that she hasn’t called, text, emailed, or visited any of them since the court case.

Edited at 2024/08/10 02:59:10

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 08:24:54 No.2396230

>>2396206

Or the likes of the Mollinari Family, who also showed ZigZag more love and affection than her parents ever did...she even wanted to live with them, though sadly it was impossible at the time...

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 10:10:01 No.2396292

>>2396230
what the fuck are you talking about

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 10:32:06 No.2396302

>>2396230
>>2396292

The artist LordFoxhole created an alternate backstory where a couple of neighbors took Zig Zag in as a kid and sort of raised her while her parents were off getting loaded, high, etc.

And they happened to look like Sabrina and Endora only with MASSIVE breasts. This was to explain why Adult Zig Zag lusts after Sabrina and hangs out with Endora.

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 11:46:05 No.2396340

>>2396302
Ah. I forgot about that. Doesn't make sense when connecting it to Sabrina Online and the fact that Zig Zag mainly only lusted for Sabrina. Glad Foxhole stopped writing that slop.

Furrynomous 2024/08/10 13:05:50 No.2396379

No, he still draws it.

Furrynomous 2024/08/11 08:23:38 No.2396532

>>2395535
I like this younger Zig Zag more than the Zig Zag we have now. She's a lot less sociopathic and narcissistic.

Furrynomous 2024/08/11 16:39:58 No.2396595

>She's a lot less sociopathic and narcissistic.
Guess that's what fame and fortune does to an abused young adult.

Furrynomous 2024/08/16 02:35:01 No.2397222

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>Any excuse for a little fanservice!

Furrynomous 2024/08/16 05:01:14 No.2397256

This all would've made for another one of Eric's Fur After Dark porn comics considering it's another Zig Zag focused one that takes place in the past.

Edited at 2024/08/16 10:47:26

Furrynomous 2024/08/16 09:44:53 No.2397300

I get the feeling that this was something planned back in the early 2000s.

Because "10 years ago" was 2014. And it looks like this is the late 80s, early 90s.

Furrynomous 2024/08/16 15:08:29 No.2397341

I am hoping we'd see some backstory involving Zig's remaining family, like the day she threw her Father into a jail cell.

Furrynomous 2024/08/17 02:23:15 No.2397501

>>2397341
Think it’d be an interesting twist if said parents are now reformed, and living happily together, and wanting to make amends, all while ZZ is being a drama mama trying to prove they’re full of shit. Like Bretta and her parents from Community, and that everything ZZ remembers is actually leads to the Self-Serving Memory trope.

Edited at 2024/08/17 02:29:42

Furrynomous 2024/08/17 04:03:38 No.2397515

Unfortunately, I doubt that would happen.

As we've discussed:

1. EWS kinda sucks at drama and character interaction. He's writing like this is a daily strip, which means there's always got to be a punchline. Doesn't matter if it fits or not. All his characters are baseline stereotypes that would fit a 5-10 cartoon short.

2. EWS will NEVER depict Zig Zag as wrong. No matter what she does, it'll always be someone else's fault, and they'll need to get on board with her worldview or apologize for not understanding it.

Furrynomous 2024/08/17 17:08:04 No.2397687

Don't forget, this is Eric Schwartz's work, it what HE wants to draw.

Not what everyone else wants.

If the storyline doesn't agree with shat you want, fine.
Just ignore it then.

Right now at FurAffinity he's posting that Star Trek satire/porn we have here already.

Fine.

I read it months ago, and it was a little silly at times.

But again, this is what Eric HIMSELF wanted to draw.

Not what WE demand.

Furrynomous 2024/08/17 18:16:50 No.2397708

What a sad day when criticism is equated to people just "wanting what they want over the creator". And I thought we lived in a post-Dobson internet.

Furrynomous 2024/08/17 18:49:59 No.2397725

>What a sad day when criticism is equated to people just "wanting what they want over the creator".
in this thread, it kind of is that, because a good chunk of the complaints here are "but he's not drawing what I want to see"

I'm not going to disagree with the bulk of the actual criticisms of his writing - especially that bit about how he's writing pages as if they're weekly comic strips, that shit is totally on-point - but when the "criticism" boils down to "he should be drawing [x] instead of [y]", it's not criticism, it's a demand borne of entitlement

yes, EWS is making these comics his way - so if you don't like it, minimize the thread and get on with your life instead of bitching about how he's not drawing the comics to suit your specific personal tastes; hatereading doesn't get you anything but further entrenched into anger and hatred and other negative emotions that aren't going to serve you in any way

you want a better Zig Zag story? write it yourself and make it better than what EWS is doing, because that's pretty much the only option you've got

Furrynomous 2024/08/18 04:20:10 No.2397941

Awwwww, but we wanna vent. XP

Furrynomous 2024/08/18 12:33:42 No.2398029

>>2397941
no, you want to enjoy complaining about something beyond your control instead of doing something that will most certainly take more effort than helplessly and endlessly whining about how you dislike the thing you dislike

if you want a better Zig Zag story, you're going to have to write it yourself, because EWS clearly isn't going to write one based on your demands on what a good Zig Zag story should be - that's reality, and nothing short of paying EWS off with a dumptruck full of money is going to change that reality

if you want better, either find better or do better; stop begging and praying and powerlessly demanding better from someone who either isn't listening or doesn't want to listen to you being a bitch

Furrynomous 2024/08/18 15:16:14 No.2398054

This guy's a Debbie Downer and a mood killer all rolled in one, huh?

>>2397222
Pointless as usual. Time to see where this road trip will take these girls if we're really going to waste more time not focusing on the center problem.

Edited at 2024/08/18 15:17:03

Furrynomous 2024/08/18 15:22:33 No.2398055

>>2398029
Welcome to U18chan. You're either complaining about a shit artist's work being leaked or being unsatisfied by what you get here. For this comic, you either have something, anything to say or you just have nothing. It's boring as sin at its worst moments, but that's what makes it fun to discuss about. Can't really get that feeling with most other boards and places who do nothing but sing its praises just 'cause it and the artist are still being revered as the Furry Renaissance period of webcomics and art.

Furrynomous 2024/08/18 15:23:50 No.2398056

>>2397222
For a guy who doubles as a porn artist, this is pretty tame for some PG13 fanservice.

Edited at 2024/08/18 15:24:24

Furrynomous 2024/08/19 09:03:44 No.2398222

>>2398055
>For this comic, you either have something, anything to say or you just have nothing.
that's my whole point: you're so enamored with your ability to complain about things you don't like that you do that instead of clicking the "Hide Thread" button, finding something you actually like to look at, and singing its praises

like I said earlier, it's fine to critique EWS's writing, because God knows the "every page has to end on a gag because that's how newspaper comics do it" schtick deserves that - but once you've talked about the problem, what good do you accomplish by continuing to complain about something you literally cannot control in any way?

complaining may be fun to you, but consider that continually and endlessly complaining about something you obviously hate is FUCKING WITH YOUR HEAD in ways you either can't or won't admit to yourself - and I used to be someone who tore into every last bit of Jay Naylor's work with the same gusto that a lot of the complainers in this thread are showing, so I know from experience that consuming media from a place of hate and complaining about that media for many times longer than it took me to consume it really does mess your head up

all I'm saying is, instead of complaining about something beyond your control as if those complaints will somehow magically change EWS's writing style or whatever, you could try hiding the thread and finding another activity to do - like writing your own ZZ story or drawing ZZ getting pounded or picking up Mongolian basket weaving

Furrynomous 2024/08/22 19:11:32 No.2399074

>>2397222
I wonder if they're going to end up bringing Sabrina and Co. along for the ride? It's pretty much the only way to make this story connect in any way. Fans have been dying for a change of scenery.

Furrynomous 2024/08/24 16:35:08 No.2399491

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>With great power comes great I-don't-really-wanna-do-this-but-whatever.

Furrynomous 2024/08/24 16:40:20 No.2399492

Never mind. I guess it really is just a Zig Zag & Tina roadtrip after all.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to close the place while the two are gone? I think Zig's really underestimating just how much she and Tina actually run this business if she's trying to dump the responsibilities again on a techy Amiga skunk girl like Sabrina. Only good thing is it at least isn't because Zig preoccupied herself on internet related shenanigans again.

Edited at 2024/08/24 18:04:55

Furrynomous 2024/08/24 17:59:53 No.2399526

Okay. What the heck was the point of the flashback?
EWS could have had the pillow talk and Zig Zag pole dancing to prove she's still got the moves on the road trip.

And yeah. Raise your hand if you predicted Sabrina would be tagged to run things while Zig was away.

Furrynomous 2024/08/24 23:12:39 No.2399561

>>2399491
I only care about the Sheila cameo in the background
She should be featured more

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 00:42:51 No.2399997

Sooooo.....we're just gonna leave Endora as is right now (traumatized), so ZZ and Tina can have they're soul search trip!?

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 00:44:04 No.2399998

Sooooo.....we're just gonna leave Endora as is right now (traumatized), so ZZ and Tina can have they're soul search trip!?

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 01:31:44 No.2399999

>>2399997
The old prude did say she didn't want to talk to Zig Zag right now. I expect her to be relevant again once she's ready.

Edited at 2024/08/26 05:42:50

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 02:05:06 No.2400016

>>2399998

So instead of leaving her alone and go have a look at herself in a soul-search trip, and get back with hopefully a fresher mind and Endora able to talk it out, you prefer for her to stick around and keep trying to talk to Endora, further making things worst?

I swear EWS' writing may be bad, but goddamnit you'd make a even worst writer

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 10:22:22 No.2400149

>>2399998
if you were in Endora's position, do you think you'd want the person who did what ZZ did to Endora constantly harassing you and your family in the hopes of seeing and/or talking to you again? because I wouldn't

ZZ giving Endora time and space to process what happened on her own terms may be annoying (to you) on a storytelling standpoint, but from a psychological standpoint, it's the best thing ZZ could do for Endora

deal with it

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 11:13:30 No.2400152

Maybe it would help if we saw Endora's side of this for a bit. Her dealing with the trauma and why it was so traumatic for her to begin with.

She hasn't made an appearance since June. And only in the background.

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 12:05:49 No.2400156

>>2400152
see, that is a much more valid criticism

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 14:47:21 No.2400200

>>2400152
Let's be honest. Endora having any exploration of her problems or how she has to deal with them never was something Eric cared to go into. She's such a background element that even when she's the actual catalyst for Zig Zag to go on a self-discovery road trip was just an excuse for the writer to write a story solely around his skunk waifu again. We all knew it was going to be the case one way or another when your storyline is titled "Stripes and Links".

Furrynomous 2024/08/26 22:16:17 No.2400289

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>Dressing up for a trip, or rather - down.

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 00:04:26 No.2400314

So much for inconspicuous

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 03:17:38 No.2400382

Not a bad page

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 06:37:55 No.2400463

Where’d they say they were going?

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 12:58:03 No.2400507

I have to imagine one stop will be to check in on Helen and how more empowered she feels since becoming the neighborhood bicycle. And remind us that Bobby is still a butt-monkey.

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 13:09:39 No.2400511

God, please no. Hopefully Bobby moved out and away from all this with a different name.

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 13:34:04 No.2400514

Seriously guys? This actually is an okay page and yet you still find a way to crap on it.

Furrynomous 2024/08/27 16:45:38 No.2400586

I don't think anyone was dumping on this particular page. Just what might happen on this "road trip of self-discovery".

Since the comic is PG-13, it's not like Zig and Tina are gonna be shown constantly banging in motels over and over.

Furrynomous 2024/09/01 18:25:19 No.2401280

>>2400507
>>2400511
Seems to be a lot of defense every time this kid is bought up. Think someone were to make a fan comic on him, people would read it?

Furrynomous 2024/09/05 23:42:46 No.2402285

>>2400514
Not only did they manage to complain, they also managed to bring up Bobby again.

Furrynomous 2024/09/07 20:27:08 No.2402623

new page is out.

Furrynomous 2024/09/07 21:18:36 No.2402635

>>2400507

Actually, I also composed a story involving Helen for EWS, but it revolved around a fixer-upper job she'd been given from her ex-husband, the discovery of a lost steam locomotive containing a stash of stolen money (along with two attempted robberies in which the Double Z crew came out victorious), a high-speed railroad chase and cameos/parodies of the crooks from "LEGO City Adventures" done in EWS's anthrofied style...

Furrynomous 2024/09/07 21:41:45 No.2402641

>>2402635
You keep advertising these "stories", yet never mentioned where they are or update us on on the editing?!

Furrynomous 2024/09/07 21:42:16 No.2402642

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>She didn't pick up the cheeseburger Doritos.

Furrynomous 2024/09/07 22:54:32 No.2402648

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Furrynomous 2024/09/08 00:27:10 No.2402657

>>2252179
"y'know" who? It's not like she's going to end up meeting Endora or anyone important. Also, I don't recall Zig having much problem with publicity in the past.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 01:50:49 No.2402666

>>2402657
Her family perhaps? Or what’s left of it.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 01:59:20 No.2402669

>>2402666
Pretty vague wording if that's what this will actually lead to.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 02:42:03 No.2402678

Anyone else thinking this part of the comic is inspired by Fear Loathing in Las Vegas?

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 05:04:37 No.2402695

>>2402642
Why hasn't Zig Zag tried to dye the much of her fur black like a typical skunk? Sheila did it in that other storyline. No need for frumpy incognito getups.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 08:56:08 No.2402744

>>2402641

It was mentioned in one of the earlier 'S-O' topics, but full synopsi can be found here;
https://www.deviantart.com/ccb-18/art/Stories-for-Sabrina-Online-Comics-972789143

Hope that helps?

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 09:26:38 No.2402748

>>2402642
So, the joke is that even though she wants to go incognito, Zig Zag still purposefully draws attention to herself?

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 09:27:59 No.2402749

>>2402642

Those last two panels are the reverse of what took place in my 'fixer-upper' story;
ZigZag and the Team are out in Hicksville to mend the property Helen's come into possession of, ZigZag goes incognito when picking up supplies in town, and although she DOESN'T flirt with anybody there, she gets recognised...but not as the Adult Film star she is. She gets mistaken for Miss Glory instead.

(Sadly it was the unexpected arrival of the local newspaper reporter who popped over to get the story of why 'Miss Glory' had returned and was fixing up the old station house, that lead to the robbers attempts to invade the property, which in turn lead to the discover of the old locomotive and the stashed cash in the engine shed on the property)...

Though, I also have a similar story in which either ZigZag or Tine are out and about in another community that doesn't know them, they have car trouble and, whilst asking for help, are mistakenly taken up as a nanny answering an advertisement...

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 13:46:50 No.2402774

>>2402748
No, it's that the low-key disguise worked.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 16:15:10 No.2402798

You know, even though it occurred off-panel, the idea that someone didn't fall for Zig Zag's schtick and not be vilified for it is actually a nice change of pace.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 16:51:18 No.2402805

>>2402635
>>2402744
>>2402749
who gives a shit about your fanfic, bro

go to /d/ or /lit/ if you want to self-promote that badly

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 21:51:02 No.2402845

>>2402805

For your information, my good sir;

a) >>2402641 asked about them, so they do...plus, I'm not promoting them, just recalling them.

b) They aren't fanfics but proposed stories for EWS, should he get creator's block.

c) Least they are within this subject matter more than we usually get with/from Trolls.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 22:17:41 No.2402852

>>2402845
>They aren't fanfics but proposed stories for EWS
ahahahaha, holy shit, the absolute state of your ego to think Eric would accept outside proposals for stories of his own creation - do you think you're pitching a script idea for a comic to Marvel or DC, you pompous ass?

my god, dude, get your head in check - unless Eric is out there begging for ideas, he's not gonna need yours or anyone else's, and if you want him to draw your ideas, you should pony up a SHITLOAD of money first, because that's just about the only way it's ever gonna happen

did you really believe, deep down, that you were somehow going to "save" Eric and Sabrina Online? did you really think he'd care that much about your ideas when he's already got enough of his own?

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 22:39:28 No.2402854

>did you really believe, deep down, that you were somehow going to "save" Eric and Sabrina Online? did you really think he'd care that much about your ideas when he's already got enough of his own?

The story ideas are dumb, mostly because some of them are taken from actual sitcoms, but I guffaw at the notion that Eric actually has "enough ideas" for his own comic when a majority of them are just characters faffing about for 20+ pages.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 22:41:45 No.2402855

>>2402852
DUDE!!! Calm you're tits, and take sleeve or chill pills. Let the guy cook. He ain't harming anyone.

Furrynomous 2024/09/08 23:58:41 No.2402860

>>2402854
>I guffaw at the notion that Eric actually has "enough ideas" for his own comic when a majority of them are just characters faffing about for 20+ pages.
you wanna know which one word in that sentence leaps out and screams "I enjoy the smell of my own farts"?

listen, dude, Eric's been writing SO since the mid-1990s, and he isn't showing any signs of slowing down - if he needed anyone's help in coming up with new ideas for SO stories, he's probably got a number of trusted friends he can turn to well before he would ever have to be so desperate as to turn to you and your ideas

you're writing fanfics that he will never illustrate - and probably won't ever read, given that you could conceivably sue him for copyright infringement if he yoinked one of your ideas for his own use - so the sooner you come to terms with the fact that you're writing fanfic that's probably even worse than the derivative sitcom bullshit Eric comes up with, the sooner you can get your ego in check and stop believing you're a five-course meal when you're most likely the same kind of hot shit on a cold plate as the rest of us meatbags

>>2402855
learn the difference between "your" and "you're" (hint: one means "you are" and the other doesn't), and who the hell asked him to cook in the first place?

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 00:36:34 No.2402864

>>2402860
I draw porn comics, and I can attest to people coming to me many times with ideas with the belief of me having writer's block, or if I were to get writer's block with my comics. I don't get it. Never have. But it's astounding how many people were talking to me like they were doing me a favor with ideas as absurd as Rainbow Dash in a soiled diaper.

I don't mind fan-fiction. I used to read a lot of it back in the day. But never act like it's there for the original creator or artist to use. Because odds are slim to none. If you want to see it made, draw it yourself, or pay someone to draw it for you.

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 01:48:18 No.2402873

>I draw porn comics
Which ones?

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 02:00:23 No.2402879

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Hey everyone was just curious if anyone has a high quality upload of the cover of Sabrina Online #13? or any of the others for that matter.

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 02:08:15 No.2402883

>>2402873
My username is Foxtide888. I've drawn many comics. And even some Hazel Weiss fanart. I don't mind people telling me their ideas. But I got so many that acted like I had to draw what they wanted. There was even one who implied I should draw for him because I supposedly had no life

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 03:47:23 No.2402900

>>2402879
I'm surprised I've never seen that one before. Where'd you find that image specifically, some archive site or ebay listing?

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 03:55:02 No.2402902

>>2402879
It looks like that's the cover from the period where Zig Zag had the red eye because Sabrina tackled her

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 04:51:58 No.2402906

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>>2402900
It's on the back of the Vol 2 Hardcover collection. I think it's the cover for the small paperback collection. Likewise I don't know if I've ever seen it before but I'd love to see a higher quality of it.

>>2402902
Oh i couldn't remember how or why she got that. But yeah it's the story where Zig gets it in her head that doing tastefully suggestive photos with a little kid and putting them up on the net would have been a reasonable idea. Doesn't go through with it but still, she was going to go full steam ahead until Sabrina pointed out the obvious.

Still can't believe EWS did this art for/related to that chapter though.

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 05:21:49 No.2402917

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Ran this through an upscaler. I actually expected it to turn out worse

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 06:20:03 No.2402925

>>2402917
oh wow yeah that did tune it up a bit. Thanks for giving it a shot.

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 06:39:31 No.2402929

>>2402925
No prob. This was the site I used https://dezgo.com/upscale

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 09:15:56 No.2402942

That cover makes it look even worse, to be honest.

And I think the red-eye thing was the result of an "on-the-job injury"

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 09:22:14 No.2402943

>>2402942
yeah the comics leading up to it the whole thing is playful and Tabi being blissfully ignorant. This cover makes it look like she's about to be fed to the wolves.

As for the eye it's either from when Sabrina tackled her after beating her repeatedly in a game of Quake, that "rough four-way" she had or when she sneezed.

Furrynomous 2024/09/09 15:24:51 No.2402992

As much as we joke about it, those last few images really make Zig Zag look like some kind of sexual predator.

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 09:40:01 No.2403176

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Furrynomous 2024/09/10 11:21:44 No.2403198

>>2402992
she kind-of is, tho'

not a child predator, obviously, but a sexual predator who sees other adults as sexual conquests - consider how Zig Zag seduced Helen Dish only minutes after meeting her, used sex to make her shrink break his ethics, flirted with the studio's hairdresser (and later fucked her without even waiting for permission), and tried getting physical with an obviously uncomfortable Sabrina

in the world of Sabrina Online, Zig Zag is a low-key sexual predator who uses her fame/infamy as a porn star to excuse away her predatory urges - anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't been paying attention to her behavior

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 11:52:10 No.2403200

I actually was referring to her being a child predator.

Maybe EWS wasn't doing it on purpose, but seriously, look at how he draws her with Tabitha in those last few pics.

In the "studio photo", she's giving the viewer "come and get us" looks.

On that cover, she looks like she's going to go after Tabitha herself and not stop. And Tabitha looks like she's not comfortable with this at all.

I know she's supposed to be this "Pepe le Pew/Minerva Mink" type character, but Christ, what was EWS thinking when he drew these?

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 12:29:21 No.2403210

>>2403200
Someone needs to check that dudes hard-drive ASAP.

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 15:04:54 No.2403229

>>2403198
I've already said it before that readers wouldn't be able to pick up on this behavior of Zig's unless the tone was decidedly non-humorous. Every other thing you mentioned was portrayed in porn stories and/or the normal comedic tone of the series, so only a minority will take this characteristic of Zig's seriously. And if they do, Eric will twist the story around her to make you feel bad for her.

>>2403200
I just took that as dumb edgy humor that Eric especially thought was funny until it stopped being it when he grew more aware of THAT side of the fandom over Tabitha and Zig Zag's friendship.

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 16:36:52 No.2403240

>>2403229
>Eric will twist the story around her to make you feel bad for her
there's a level of sympathy one can feel for someone whose life got so fucked up that they act like Zig Zag and think sex is the answer to every question and the solution to every problem - but at some point, acting like that is less "uncontrollable impulse" and more "knowing decision to be an asshole", and Zig Zag would definitely be in that realm by now

and yeah, I get that Zig Zag's hypersexuality is both a running gag and a primary draw to her art/character - but in the Sabrina Online canon, she tried to sexually assault Sabrina and got decked for it, so excusing her behavior as "ha ha funny sex joke" or whatever is ridiculous

and I'm not here to say "you can't enjoy ZZ art any more" or any dumb bullshit like that - I still fap to porn art of her, for fuck's sake - but if we're gonna go in on the writing of SO, we can at least be honest about Zig Zag's writing and characterization instead of ignoring or whitewashing it

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 17:08:23 No.2403243

Have ya'll tried not reading the comic if you don't like the story or humor?

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 19:32:24 No.2403263

>>2403243
I don't typically go for tearing apart SO's writing - letting the comic go by without comment is more my thing - but I felt like jumping into the "ZZ is a sexual predator" thing because I thought it was a worthwhile point to explore

Furrynomous 2024/09/10 21:35:00 No.2403276

>>2403243
If you want basic convos go to the SO Patreon page. Place is full of it.

Furrynomous 2024/09/12 03:00:16 No.2403533

>consider how Zig Zag seduced Helen Dish only minutes after meeting her,

Technically, Helen wasn't subdued. She kissed first. ZZ just went along with it, and fanned the flame.
Helen is a lot like Stolas from Helluva Boss now that I think about it. Got stuck in a loveless marriage, desperate for sex, gets it with a complete stranger w/o hesitation, makes a deal (job offer in her case) with said stranger that ends in sex, and completely oblivious to her kid's wellbeing.

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 18:14:57 No.2405296

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>>2402642

"We interrupt our previous skunk coverage in order to bring you... skunks!"

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 18:22:04 No.2405298

You know, maybe it's best to not have to force Endora into talking about this right now. It's only been like two days ago that Zig macked on her against any better judgement and she's clearly not comfortable speaking about the subject currently.

As happy I am seeing Danielle show a face that isn't moody and disinterest, is this what kids do these days? Show off and compare phone apps they've downloaded? Really pushing that expansive knowledge with the kids these days, Eric.

Edited at 2024/09/16 18:25:51

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 18:42:34 No.2405300

>>2405296
Anyone convinced Endora might be a closet lesbian or is she just skittish and uncomfortable?

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 19:07:51 No.2405303

>>2405300

Lots of people in the Patreon post for that page

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 20:06:56 No.2405311

>>2405300
If it turns out she's lesbo, than that just confirms ZZ is a homewrecker. But knowing the author, he'll somehow turn that into a "good" thing.

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 21:21:27 No.2405319

>>2405296

Plot twist, Sabrina kisses her mom and says "i can taste ZigZag on your lips, you slut".

Hope theirs lesbian fan artwork of the 3.

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 22:08:27 No.2405342

Well, if you go with the idea that Endora is still a Boomer, it kinda makes sense she'd have issues with homosexuality.

Plus, it's been implied her parents were even more conservative than her if Warren wasn't "pure" skunk enough to marry their daughter. So they probably drilled some "gays are evil, diseased-riddled scum" into her head.

Edited at 2024/09/16 22:14:23

Furrynomous 2024/09/16 22:51:15 No.2405348

>>2405319
I used to post Endora pics I made here. But the mods kept removing them. So I stahped

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 01:03:00 No.2405370

>>2405348
Try posting them in /fur/

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 01:24:36 No.2405374

>>2405342
At this point, I just go off on the implication that Endora's relationship with her parents was so bad that she's cut off all contact from them. Why else have we never seen the two make an appearance to show us the contrast? It's probably why she wouldn't be able to handle the idea of Sabrina doing the same to her.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 03:55:58 No.2405382

>>2405374
I'd say it's more likely Endora's parents were simply no longer alive by the time the webcomic started. Endora's father was possibly in Vietnam, and I had lots of family members that died middle aged. Either way, at this pont Sabrina's grandparents (Both maternal and paternal) have gone so long without ever being mentioned apart from page mentioning Endora's mother, that there's no point in introducing them now. Unless EWS decides to do a time travel or young Endora arc. Or maybe Sabrina searching her family tree.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 04:11:53 No.2405384

Gotta remember that Endora and Warren were already in their 50s when the strip started back in 1996. So THEY would have been the ones to deal with 'Nam etc. Heck, originally Conrad said R.C. was conceived during Watergate/Nixon's resignation.

That's the rub with sliding timelines. If Endora is in her 50s/60s NOW, she would have been the one to have grown up in the post-70s culture, with the rise of tech and LGBTQ awareness, not Sabrina.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 04:46:00 No.2405390

>>2405384
I figured they were in their mid 40s when the comic started, because in the beginning Tabitha was 2, and Endora had one more baby before menopause. Logic would denote that her age at the beginning of the comic may have been around 45.

Edited at 2024/09/17 04:48:37

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 08:39:34 No.2405415

>>2405300

>Anyone convinced Endora might be a closet lesbian or is she just skittish and uncomfortable?

Well, when you look at it, ZigZag broke both the mind of her youngest daughter and now she's done it again to the mother.

But all that Sabrina needs now is for Sabrina to walk in on a scene like this; https://www.furaffinity.net/view/1449748/ - or find both her boss and mum in bed together, like at the end of episode 4 of the second season of "Velma"...and then ZigZag's broken all three skunkettes' brains(!)

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 12:39:48 No.2405442

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Thought Zig Zag already broke Sabrina back in 1999.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 15:16:46 No.2405478

>>2405442
No. She "loosened her up" as indicated. It was a slow process to break Sabrina down until she's mostly non-prudish.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 21:21:45 No.2405530

At this point that will end up destroying their marriage, but it would be hilariously fair since Zig failed to even come close to bedding Sabrina and she still seems to keep asking.

Furrynomous 2024/09/17 22:07:03 No.2405535

I know EWS loves Transformers. But anyone ever ask his opinion on Gundam? Especially with the new series coming

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 04:58:53 No.2405586

>>2405535
who gives a fuck what he thinks about Gundam

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 05:10:51 No.2405587

>>2405535
I think a better question would be is what he thinks of the new Transformers One movie.

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 05:51:44 No.2405597

>>2405586
Guy makes his whole geeky identity out of liking Amiga and Transformers. It's interesting to learn if he has opinions on anything else.

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 06:23:30 No.2405603

Considering Gundam actually predates Transformers, I am quite curious about EWS's opinion on it. I'm not hoping he sings it's praises or anything. But as something from almost the same time as tTansformers, and EWS's chronic nostalgia for things of days' past. I'd be quite interest in his take on the subject.

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 16:59:05 No.2405680

>>2405603
okay but WHY, though

why do you give a FUCK what he thinks about anything

are you looking to have him validate your opinions or something?

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 21:31:25 No.2405706

>>2405311
So much for her telling Sabrina that she wouldn't wreck someone else's marriage for her own benefits.

Furrynomous 2024/09/18 23:40:25 No.2405719

>>2405680
Ok, now you're jumping the aggressive meter from 0 to 100. There's nothing wrong with asking someone's opinion on something. Especially someone you think may have similar tastes on something. I'm not one ofr those people who try to say what EWS should or shouldn't draw. I just know he's got an obsession for yester-year. And so I'm curious about what he'd think of Gundam. It's not like he doesn't like anime. Because it's been mentioned several times in the webcomic. You're literally flipping out over nothing by saying things like "Why do you give a FUCK what he thinks about anything". Take a chill pill man. If you want drama, focus on the trolls and the haters. Not the guy who had an honest mundane question.

Furrynomous 2024/09/19 15:38:25 No.2405772

>>2405719
okay but why do you want to hear his opinion on anything? why are you seeking his approval of your Japanese cartoon show like a desperate child looking for an "I love you" from their parents?

Furrynomous 2024/09/19 19:23:56 No.2405782

>>2405772
You're still doing it man. And you're badly twisting words. If you've got a hate boner for anime, just say it. But I really don't give a fuck if you do. Gundam isn't just something you can label as a children's series. Considering they have multiple full sized (18 meters) Gundam statues in Japan with moving parts, basically a whole street dedicated to it, and many many series released over the course of 40 years, I'd say it's world-wide popularity easily exceeds any idiotic and antagonistic thing you'd have to say about it.

And secondly, you're acting like I'm seeking EWS's approval like a lost puppy. I'm not. I literally never said anything like that. I'm curious what he'd think. But a curiosity is all it is. I'm not going out of my way to contact him about it. You literally started this mess over absolutely nothing because you were looking for someone to pick on. Which makes you the most childish person here. Go back to the schoolyard and look for someone else more on your mental level to mess with.

Edited at 2024/09/19 21:01:44

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 00:24:00 No.2405794

>>2405772
Man I think you got some issues

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 02:32:39 No.2405801

>>2405782
you know what

YOU KNOW FUCKING WHAT

yeah, you're absolutely right, I was being an unreasonable bitch-ass asshole bitch for no good reason

I apologize for my rancid bullshit and I'll try harder in the future to think thrice before I metaphorically shit all over the floor like that again

my bad, not yours, I'm a stupid fucky-fuck

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 02:40:54 No.2405802

>>2405801
It's fine. Believe me, I know the feeling.

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 06:17:02 No.2405813

>>2405296
I'm reminded that Tabitha is Danielle's aunt yet is still around maybe 12 or 14 right now. The one weird thing with these sliding timelines is that the kids seem to show more visual aging than the adults, yet Eric never really bothered to ever give anyone an official age reference to work off of.

Edited at 2024/09/20 06:18:55

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 08:40:34 No.2405819

>>2405813

>I'm reminded that Tabitha is Danielle's aunt yet is still around maybe 12 or 14 right now.

I'll say, look at Rudy & Coney with Turvy over on "Kevin & Kell"...

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 09:42:15 No.2405824

You can somewhat discern Tabitha's age by the fact she's two years older than Timmy. She was two when he was born. So 16 when she was 18 in Sabrina's future vision. Then there's when Sabrina turned 30. Which we can assume Tabitha was 10 years old at, because Sabrina was 20 when Tabitha was born. This should put her current age in the comic as roughly 11.

Furrynomous 2024/09/20 09:49:38 No.2405826

Just found this pic of a young Endora https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10692667

Furrynomous 2024/09/22 03:39:04 No.2405955

>>2405826
obvious ai

Furrynomous 2024/09/22 04:33:54 No.2405957

>>2405955

It even have "ai generated" and "stable diffusion" on the tags

Furrynomous 2024/09/28 23:23:58 No.2405958

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>Sometimes shared experiences just make things worse instead of better.

Furrynomous 2024/09/29 04:39:26 No.2406040

>>2405958
.......didn't she already explain this Endora, like before her wedding?
>"She's calm down a lot, and hardly does any of that stuff anymore."
Why would she, when she has a bottom-half sex toy tailor made to look and feel like you, and a locker shrine dedicated to you.

Furrynomous 2024/09/29 04:40:43 No.2406041

>>2405958

Edited at 2024/09/29 04:52:27

Furrynomous 2024/09/29 05:17:31 No.2406059

>>2405958
Yeah, I'm not sure what I was expecting when it comes to trying to defend a sexual predator who supposedly has "calmed down" over time. It's almost like the Eric is self-aware on just how bullshit that claim is. It's almost funny in a way with how Sabby actually thinks that's a worthy defense.
>>2406040
It's in-character for Endora to have a very selective memory.

Furrynomous 2024/09/29 09:12:12 No.2406175

This feels like a subplot that should have been dealt with years ago.

Furrynomous 2024/09/29 21:09:43 No.2406443

>Zig has kissed me before, several times in fact, and I didn't go catatonic over it!

Seen below. Sabrina TOTALLY not going catatonic over being kissed non-consensually by Zig Zag for the first.
>>2405442

Furrynomous 2024/09/30 19:01:40 No.2406717

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>>2405958

>Time to retreat and regroup.

Furrynomous 2024/09/30 19:05:26 No.2406719

This went no where as expected. Are we supposed to think Endora's being unreasonable and stubborn? This is a different feeling she's never had to deal with after getting snogged on.

I don't get the punchline. It's not like Tabitha downloaded a bunch of free-to-play games on Danielle's phone.

Furrynomous 2024/09/30 19:18:37 No.2406721

>>2406717
Patreon peeps are still claiming Endy's a closet lesbo. Honestly reminds me that this character hasn't been a passive aggressive bigot in awhile.

Furrynomous 2024/09/30 20:11:13 No.2406733

>>2406721

Is the Mom's name Endora or Eudora?

Furrynomous 2024/09/30 23:02:20 No.2406791

"Endora"
The gag is that all of the women in Sabrina's family are named after TV witches

Furrynomous 2024/10/01 04:58:16 No.2406860

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>>2406791
Endora

Yes, the great Agnes Moorehead.

Edited at 2024/10/01 05:04:35

Furrynomous 2024/10/01 14:59:22 No.2406964

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Do we know if Endora ever became aware of the Zig and Tabi photoshoot? She might kill Warren if she finds out that Zig has gotten up close and personal with all the girls in the family.

Furrynomous 2024/10/01 15:33:25 No.2406968

>>2406964
I guess sexy photoshoots with his underaged daughter was a minor misdemeanor if she liked it compared to his wife's overly distraught behavior from getting kissed by a porn star.

Furrynomous 2024/10/01 23:00:12 No.2407095

>>2406964
If she did, she would've stopped being drinking buddies with Zig Zag a long time ago.

Furrynomous 2024/10/01 23:43:20 No.2407104

The fact she didn't erupt when she realized she let her younger daughter walk around a porn studio willy-nilly suggests she was fine with it.

Furrynomous 2024/10/02 00:30:14 No.2407114

>>2407104
Wait. Does she actually know that part? Because as far as I remember it was one of the few things not explicitly revealed to her.

Furrynomous 2024/10/02 01:46:36 No.2407128

>>2407114
Yeah I don't think it directly came up but with how often she's pawned off Tabitha on Sabrina and how often Zig's been involved in all their lives I think she can put two and two together.

I mean Tabitha had to get that "movie star" outfit from somewhere when she was little.

Furrynomous 2024/10/02 02:12:17 No.2407129

>>2407128
I just have a hard time believing she can figure out anything by herself with how dense and slow Eric tends to write her often.

Furrynomous 2024/10/03 00:59:13 No.2407408

>>2406860
There's really no need to post photos of what you're trying to reference.

Furrynomous 2024/10/07 17:10:43 No.2408418

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>>2406717

Furrynomous 2024/10/07 18:50:00 No.2408438

>Zig Zag has relatively little experience combining hats with convertibles.

Furrynomous 2024/10/07 19:18:36 No.2408441

I think this new page really demonstrates the problem with EWS’ need to end every page on a punchline.

Furrynomous 2024/10/08 01:06:43 No.2408544

>>2408418
OK, going to see her siblings (which is about time) for closure or insight I can understand. But going to see her parents, which last I checked included a mother that neglected all her kids, and a father that beat her and somewhat molested her? I mean, I'm all for forgiveness and/or conquering your demons, but I don't think her parents are one of those things.

Edited at 2024/10/08 01:13:22

Furrynomous 2024/10/08 01:20:13 No.2408546

>>2408418
>>2408544

I thought Zig's parents were in jail and lost custody of their kids and placed them into the care of their grandparents after Zig sued them. Is Eric just suggesting her parents, mainly her father, calmed down enough to raise anyone in their family again?

Edited at 2024/10/08 01:54:41

Furrynomous 2024/10/08 01:47:20 No.2408548

>>2408546

Either that's a massive retcon, or considering Eric's track record he simply forgot that was a plot point and decided to ignore it

Furrynomous 2024/10/08 02:26:11 No.2408556

https://web.archive.org/web/20150819161034/http://www.furnation.com/Black_Rabbit/zgallery.htm

This is the original source of Zig Zag's backstory as written by Max Blackrabbit. I believe one version of events implies that as least her dad is dead. It's hard to say for sure since many of the original art sites are long dead.

Furrynomous 2024/10/08 04:40:07 No.2408566

>>2408548
Probably retcon. I mean he pretty much did that with Helen and Bobby.

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 16:05:00 No.2410687

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>Setting up a base of operations, or just somewhere to operate on her base.

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 16:06:56 No.2410688

JUST DATE ALREADY!!!

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 18:14:00 No.2410716

sigh, old people boinking....

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 18:21:33 No.2410720

>old people
aren't they supposed to be in their thirties or something? Zig Zag was 18 when Tina first met her, and I can't imagine Tina was much older than Zig Zag back then

also, even if they're in their 40s, if you think being in your 40s is "old", you must be under the legal age to view this site, because only dipshit teenagers who think they know everything about everything would think 40 is "old"

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 21:11:45 No.2410752

Zig Zag is 29.
Tina is in her mid to late 40s.

And I really wish at this point EWS would just make a FAD comic of Zig and Tina boinking just each other. This "cut away as they start taking their shirts off" thing is getting repetitive.

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 21:35:45 No.2410757

Has it been said WHERE they are geographically? Like are they still in the city or even still in Ohio?

Edited at 2024/10/17 21:39:09

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 22:29:02 No.2410767

>>2410687
>no Sheila
Boring comic

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 23:15:55 No.2410781

>>2410752
Zig Zag isn't in her 40s. When she and Sabrina met, Sabrina was 22, and ZZ was 27-28. Sabrina's last birthday in the comic was when she turned 30. From the amount of time that's gone on since, I'd say Sabrina is probably currently 31. Making ZZ around 36-37. Tina is pushing 50 since she was 41 at the beginning of the comic, as I remember her Fur After Dark profile saying.

Furrynomous 2024/10/17 23:37:47 No.2410786

>>2410757

On the page before the latest one Zig said they were on "a part of the country she hasn't been in years" and that's the state where her parents live;

Considering the comment on the latest one by EWS mentions 'setting a base of operations' the hotel they are right now is probably on ZZ parents' town. Now for what state or city not confirmed yet

Furrynomous 2024/10/18 00:26:35 No.2410795

>>2410720
>>2410752
>>2410781

Can we all stop constantly discussing the age gaps of fictional characters in this comic?! It barely has a factor in the story or to Eric as is.

Furrynomous 2024/10/18 00:34:41 No.2410796

>>2410781

>>2394346
EWS keeps Zig Zag in her twenties while Sabrina is now in her 30s.

Edited at 2024/10/18 00:36:28

Furrynomous 2024/10/18 02:38:21 No.2410808

>>2410795
Kinda hard to ignore considering Sabrina just had a kid that’s now 7yrs old, more or less, and she was just introduced a few months ago. And since then has little to zero development.

Edited at 2024/10/18 05:43:28

Furrynomous 2024/10/18 04:58:19 No.2410821

>>2410796

I feel that's more of a joke that Zig keeps considering herself to be "eternally" 29 even after years since her actual 29th birthday, not EWS literally keeping her as 29

Furrynomous 2024/10/18 17:54:51 No.2410907

>>2410821
Honestly, that joke would be uncharming if she was still thinking that even in her early 60s.

Edited at 2024/10/19 06:47:56

Furrynomous 2024/10/19 12:35:56 No.2411023

>>2410796
Zig is likely in her early to mid 40s. She's just saying she's 29 as a joke.

Furrynomous 2024/10/20 05:37:24 No.2411185

>>2410808
Is Danielle supposed to be 7? Given her vocabulary at the end of Horde-sitting and her still somewhat limited sentences I'd assume she's still like 5-6 at most?

Furrynomous 2024/10/20 21:04:24 No.2411264

>>2410808

>Kinda hard to ignore considering Sabrina just had a kid that’s now 7yrs old...

Actually, it's 6. She was born a year after Turvy in "Kevin & Kell" who was born in 2017...

...still, it was a shame neither EWS or Bill Holbrook didn't do any crossover filler art, like it happened with Tavie in "Gene Catlow" & Danielle of "K&K" in 2006 by Wallaroo...

Furrynomous # MOD # 2024/10/24 20:45:51 No.2411850

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>>2410687

Furrynomous 2024/10/24 22:22:58 No.2411881

This feels kinda random.

Furrynomous 2024/10/24 22:45:50 No.2411894

I can only imagine how much that guy was kicking himself after Zig Zag went on to open her own studio and make vmore money than him. Hell, she might have even driven him out of business.

The porn industry back in the day was kinda lazy. They repeated a lot of the same stuff. And a lot of the people they hired weren't the best looking. Good looking actors costed more money. I remember in a documentary, one guy who was involved in porn back in the day said it started with a few guys saying "Hey. Let's hire a few ugly people and get them to have sex with each other". Once VCRs were out, it opened up a whole new window for them past theators. But over time a lot of them got stuck in their ways and refused to innovate. Old porn studios were like the Henry Ford example. Build and produce one great thing, and then try to keep it the same for decades. And then once the internet really got going, they had to scramble with the loss in sales.

Furrynomous 2024/10/24 23:17:25 No.2411932

Wasn't the gag early on that Zig Zag's crew were making pretty much the stuff you'd expect a 90s porn studio to make? Pizza boy specials, etc.?

Not really sure what "innovations" Zig Zag made other than hiring Sabrina to create and manage the company website. Heck, they didn't offer 'net exclusive stuff till 2010.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 00:57:12 No.2411952

>>2411932
Sure Zig Zag still did the classics after opening her own studio. But she did new things too. Even using her own eye injury for a ghost pirates shoot. Beyond that though, I'm kinda thankful EWS didn't go into more detail about what ZZ Studios do other than Sabrina's part.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 02:26:29 No.2412006

>>2411894
>>2411952
You'd think the advancements of the internet/computers would make for an interesting arc or plotline. Like choosing whether not to keep Sabrina full time, or switch to a web building app. Or the studio battling against the use of AI on their work.

Edited at 2024/10/25 02:28:14

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 03:43:36 No.2412020

This is EWS we're talking about here.
Current tech isn't one of his strong suits, ironically.

Even these flashbacks look dated to be taking place in the late-80s/early 90s.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 04:15:15 No.2412021

>Current tech isn't one of his strong suits, ironically.

Except for Vtubing. And even that was just a forgettable b-plot to a Transformers-themed Toy Story.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 06:36:08 No.2412031

>>2411850
>Flashin' back,

>back to the past,

>Samurai Jack!

What? No exact timestamp? Just "Years Ago"?

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 06:45:08 No.2412032

I still struggle to see what these flashbacks add in for this story outside of once again seeing a younger, less narcissistic Zig Zag. It's nice, but it doesn't really feel like they expand much on Zig or Tina as characters.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 09:24:14 No.2412056

This is why I said before that EWS should have kept this comic period to a more typical chronological year-set, instead of just jumping it ahead technologically every few years. Honestly, the comic should be set in something more like 2006 for early 90s style flashbacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31npQarKWKI

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 09:53:22 No.2412062

It also doesn’t help that we don’t know how long Zig Zag has been working here. So it comes off as a little pretentious to argue with her boss this way.

I know. I know. Just a furry webcomic. But the storyline here could have been a lot better as a character piece for Zig Zag and Tina.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 14:27:29 No.2412153

Put on the plus sign, it adds one too many subplots to a chapter/arc that's already telling a bit too much.

Furrynomous 2024/10/25 14:47:05 No.2412154

Or not enough. Feels like EWS is skipping over a ton of information just to get the main story beats out of the way.

Furrynomous 2024/10/31 02:58:30 No.2413704

>>2412153
A flashback like this isn't really what I call a subplot. Feels like these are only here to punctuate some kind of character building or establishing why Zig and Tina are so close to the point of being far more than just business partners/friends with benefits.

That is if it actually developed them at all to begin with since the two pretty much didn't come in not as strong as they were before, so these flashbacks feel more like padding than anything important. Not really knowing anything new besides more men and the industry holding Zig Zag back on reaching her full potential.

Edited at 2024/10/31 03:05:06

Furrynomous 2024/10/31 16:57:18 No.2413845

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>Birth of a notion.

Furrynomous 2024/10/31 17:06:09 No.2413850

I forgot that this was way before people collective started liking mature women. Although, I could've sworn there were at least some porn actresses in the 70s that were popular despite being in midwife age.

Edited at 2024/10/31 17:08:22

Furrynomous 2024/10/31 18:23:25 No.2413881

Seriously, what exactly is Zig Zag doing in her own studio that's so wildly different than what her competition is making?

Furrynomous 2024/10/31 21:05:01 No.2413929

>>2413881

You need to remember this is a flashback. So probably that's early 90's. Also considering their old boss considered the same cliche scenarios, and that Tina was "too old" to be an actress... in her early 30's (like MILF isn't a big tag in a lot of porn sites) their new studio probably does more variety;

Specially considering (although not sure if that's canon) they kinda have a sentient tentacle monster in their staff, something I feel many other studios don't have. And some people are really into tentacles, so you already have a step up the others right there.

Furrynomous 2024/11/01 05:10:30 No.2414006

>>2413929
And we're never getting the Slimy origin story because his patrons want to see more Holly and Doug.

Furrynomous 2024/11/01 14:43:35 No.2414059

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed how more and more "Sabrina Online" strips revolve around the characters drinking?

Furrynomous 2024/11/01 21:29:20 No.2414192

>>2413929
> (like MILF isn't a big tag in a lot of porn sites)

EWS is still mentally in the 90's when porn was on VHS because nobody had enough bandwidth to download video over the internet, and acronyms like MILF weren't even invented yet.

Furrynomous 2024/11/02 01:43:02 No.2414232

You know, with all the pornstars constantly being the focal point in this webcomic usually centered on an nerdy skunk girl with an aversion to current day tech, there's never a mention of porn mags or the like. These guys have to be spreading themselves more on other physical media that isn't just home video or the internet. Heck. Where are the pornstars coming out as big Hollywood celebrities in this world?

Furrynomous 2024/11/02 12:18:53 No.2414367

What's interesting is that along with the "origins of ZZ Studios", we're also starting to see the narcistic jerk-ass Zig Zag start to form here.

There's no indication she's being exploited or mistreated by the place she's currently working for. She admits to making good money and is now pretty famous (for a porn actor). But because she's bored and one guy isn't catering to her whims, she wants to break off and start her own business.

Tina has more of a reason to be upset and want to branch off than Zig Zag does.

Furrynomous 2024/11/02 23:42:22 No.2414602

>>2414367
even people who fuck for a living can feel creatively unfulfilled

ZZ probably has ideas for porn films that go beyond the generic bullshit her boss shoots, but because she's young (likely in her early twenties during this specific flashback) and she's just a piece of fuckmeat to him, she can't get him to listen

in her position, I'd probably feel like taking the same risk she did, especially if ZZ got Tina to help handle the parts of the business that ZZ doesn't particularly care for handling

that besides: no one in their twenties *isn't* kind of an asshole - if ZZ didn't grow out of that phase, that's a problem, but at her age and in her position, being a little narcissistic and self-centered is at least understandable

Furrynomous 2024/11/03 17:32:20 No.2415023

>There's no indication she's being exploited or mistreated by the place she's currently working for. She admits to making good money and is now pretty famous (for a porn actor).
Was there any indication of that happening before? Cause only negative aspect of her career I can recall was her not getting into Hollywood.

Edited at 2024/11/03 17:33:25

Furrynomous 2024/11/03 17:55:05 No.2415026

It was all but stated that Zig Zag was also turning tricks in the backroom of the strip club she was working for. So, there's that.

What I meant was that Zig Zag's griping about her job comes off as shallow and whiny because:

1.) We don't know how long she's been working here. She could be the newest hire so she's fresh to the industry and how it works.

2.) We don't know anything about her boss aside from this one scene. He may be a creep or maybe her ideas ARE too expensive. Porn studios aren't exactly the place to go to get "Avatar" made.

3.) We don't know anything about her co-workers aside from Tina. Maybe THEY'RE drained too. Maybe they're jerks. Or junkies. Or Zig Zag is starting to become a prima donna.

Edited at 2024/11/03 19:22:49

Furrynomous 2024/11/03 22:13:25 No.2415165

Kind of tells you that this storyline should've just been a look into Zig Zag's past entirely instead of a "roadtrip self-discovery after violating your employee's mother's comfort zone with bits of flashbacks sprinkled in" story.

Furrynomous 2024/11/08 04:25:41 No.2416019

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>>2413845

>"Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak got started pretty much the same way."

Furrynomous 2024/11/08 14:56:24 No.2416064

>>2416019

Bad example, jobs abused woz to death, jobs was/is a fucking loser who just looked good, a walking paul atreides.

Bill and Ballmer are a better example, I unironically love ballmers developers rant.

Windows 7 baby.

Furrynomous 2024/11/08 15:02:32 No.2416066

>>2416064
Yes but which duo is more relevant for the public? The guy who took all the credit for developing the social media site made for your racist grandparents or the guys who are responsible for making an operating system Eric continues to hate?

Edited at 2024/11/08 17:16:20

Furrynomous 2024/11/08 15:39:51 No.2416070

>>2416066

My grandparents are boomers, they complain about Qnone and other shit while never actually using the internet. You could also apply that to Jack or elon and come off just as absurd.

Furrynomous 2024/11/13 07:52:40 No.2417065

The next page has RC showing up and talking again. After two storylines I was convinced Eric took away his speaking role permanently with how much nothing he adds in whatever is going on.

I still believe he could've found another job by now and hire a babysitter or put Daniel into daycare for the day. You literally don't have to have one parent watching a child 24/7 while the other one is the breadwinner.

Furrynomous 2024/11/13 08:02:20 No.2417066

>>2417065
There needs to be a storyline where Sabrina struggles to find any reason why she should continue working in a porn studio as its tech consultant for the rest of her life. I'm still not convinced she's fully comfortable with the people she's works around or how it doesn't impact her image when you have 'porn studio' in your resume. There'd usually some self-consciousness to the whole thing especially if you were raised with some conservative ideals regardless if she's more tolerant compared to her mother.

Furrynomous 2024/11/14 00:13:37 No.2417150

>>2417065
It may be a case of practically here.
EWS can barely handle the cast he already has and only seems to genuinely give a crap about Sabrina, Zig Zag, and maybe Tina now.

He probably doesn't want to have to go about creating a bunch of brand-new characters for RC to interact with and basically rehash a ton of "Dilbert" and "Office Space" jokes.

Furrynomous 2024/11/14 00:23:02 No.2417152

>>2417066
So... basically what the comic was supposed to be for most of the 2000s?

Unfortunately, Sabrina might not have a ton of options at this point. Her insistence on using outdated tech would have gotten her blackballed years ago. Her skills, while impressive in the 90s, are fairly basic by today's standards or even moot with "Do-it-yourself" software and apps everywhere. And even then she has to call in her husband to make things like the VR desktop work.

Edited at 2024/11/14 13:16:05

Furrynomous 2024/11/14 05:30:23 No.2417166

>>2416019
That Futurama reference means this is set in the early 2000s. Second half of 1999 at the earliest.

Furrynomous 2024/11/15 00:35:27 No.2417270

>>2417166
Ah yes the simpsons problem, where the writers become so distant from the original period that the adults move into popculture of their children.

Fucking kill me.

Furrynomous 2024/11/17 18:45:51 No.2417609

>>2417066
>>2417152
Honestly, these seem more like plausible reasons Sabrina would put up with ZZ's "antics".

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 02:45:26 No.2418108

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>>2416019

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 14:28:55 No.2418464

That's less therapy and more basic advice. Then again, that family of Sabrina's is so quick to judge each other that something like this would sound like a life changer.

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 15:59:31 No.2418480

Anyone else finding this constant jumping around multiple plotlines really jarring?

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 16:08:51 No.2418482

>>2418480
Not really. It just feels like none of these scenes have a lot going for them, but at least this one had more progress than the A plot.

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 17:02:03 No.2418532

I thought Endora freaking out over Zig Zag kissing her WAS the A-Plot?

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 17:13:13 No.2418535

>>2418532
It's Eric, so a Zig Zag story usually gets more priority by default.

Furrynomous 2024/11/21 21:48:54 No.2418605

anyone got the most recent page?

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 17:31:40 No.2419190

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>>2418108

>"It's probably easier than it looks."

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 19:05:56 No.2419199

How many subplots are we up to now?

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 19:10:32 No.2419200

Sabrina running ZZ Studios for a day or a week has potential of being entertaining, in the old days, but we all know this is going to be as average as Tabby babysitting Carli & Spike's brats.

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 21:45:14 No.2419219

>>2419199
Three or four

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 21:58:27 No.2419221

>>2419199
Let's see. There's ZZ's self-discovery trip w/Tina, and there's Aurora's traumatization recovery, than there's the ZZ's flashback, and now there's Sabrina juggling between her new job as temp CEO, and helping her mom. So, 4 so far.

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 22:37:51 No.2419239

>Aurora's traumatization recovery
who the fuck is Aurora

Furrynomous 2024/11/23 23:01:01 No.2419244

>>2419239
Endora. Sorry, auto spell was being stupid. XP

Edited at 2024/11/23 23:07:24

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 09:36:11 No.2419458

>>2419200
>>2419221

Least, unlike Kell who unintentionally became CEO of Herd Thinners Inc in mid October 2010, Sabrina won't have her co-workers trying to get rid of her in a similar takeover challenge or refusing to actually listen to her or respect her as their new - albeit temporary - boss...

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 12:39:48 No.2419531

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Furrynomous 2024/11/24 14:07:12 No.2419548

Holy crap! Sheila got a few lines of dialogue!

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 15:18:14 No.2419563

>>2419531
Did her fur color get darker?

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 16:30:13 No.2419585

>>2419531
This is just like that future scene of Sheila arguing with Darke Kat over the cost of a new idea she wanted to shoot.

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 20:55:40 No.2419658

>>2419531
>>2419585
You know, for a studio whose business claim is to be all about fun, creativity, and open mindedness, they seem to be turning down a lot of ideas unless it's from the higher ups.

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 21:03:21 No.2419659

>>2419658
It's different when you're actual running a business. Although, I could've sworn it was mentioned before that the crew can come up with under the budget stuff that was still creative and fun enough for them to work on.

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 22:37:13 No.2419685

>>2419563

That could be a side-effect of EWS using such dark, drab backgrounds for the studio interior.

Furrynomous 2024/11/24 22:42:32 No.2419686

This might be the first time we get to SEE how ZZ Studios actually works, instead of all this inferred/implied/suggested stuff people keep mentioning.

Honestly, I'm starting to think EWS is using this arc to burn through ideas he had during the original run he never got around to.

We have Zig Zag going to (possibly) visit her family.
We get the origins of the studio itself.

And Sabrina will finally get some meaningful one-on-one time with her co-workers BESIDES Zig Zag for a change.

Edited at 2024/11/24 22:45:32

Furrynomous 2024/11/25 03:32:38 No.2419766

> We have Zig Zag going to (possibly) visit her family.
>We get the origins of the studio itself.
>And Sabrina will finally get some meaningful one-on-one time with her co-workers BESIDES Zig Zag for a change.

Sounds promising, and would be all for it. But I feel that even if it does go along those lines, our expectations are gonna be subverted.

Furrynomous 2024/11/26 00:43:43 No.2420191

>>2419563
>>2419685
Could also be a long-term side effect of her paint job she did in that Skunks Day Out comic.

Furrynomous 2024/11/27 03:09:02 No.2420499

>>2420191
I don’t think EWS keeps a color palette for his characters. U look back at his work, or E621.net, and it looks like he’s just spitballing colors that are close to the original,unless they’re black or white.

Furrynomous 2024/11/27 20:49:08 No.2420755

>>2420499

Also he has been doing this comic since the days of 256 screen colors. Can expect some color palette shift

Furrynomous 2024/11/29 11:59:42 No.2421115

>>2420755

The beauty of an Amiga 500 desktop screen still haunts me to this very day.

Furrynomous 2024/11/30 05:53:53 No.2421282

>>2420755

Eric started drawing his comics on an Amiga, which had 4096 colors.

Furrynomous 2024/12/06 02:37:53 No.2422531

Was there any key indication as to why ZZ/Tina chose Sabrina to run the studio while they went on they’re little vaca? Other than moving the plot forward or nepotism?

Edited at 2024/12/06 02:45:21

Furrynomous 2024/12/06 04:36:00 No.2422541

>>2422531
Zig said Sabrina was the most responsible besides next to Tina and Zig Zag herself.

Furrynomous 2024/12/15 20:09:35 No.2423348

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>This better not awaken something in me.
>>2369127

Edited at 2025/01/08 13:34:01

Furrynomous 2024/12/15 22:02:46 No.2423426

>>2423348
....that's it? Just "easier job than I thought?" No surprise assignments, awkward situations, no hilarious hijinks, no more to this job than Sabrina thought? Come on, EWS, stop turning your waifus into mary sues.

Furrynomous 2024/12/16 03:27:39 No.2423555

>No surprise assignments, awkward situations, no hilarious hijinks, no more to this job than Sabrina thought?

This ain't her story, mate. She's basically a Family Guy B-Plot in her own comic. It's all about Zig Zag and her character arc, such as right now where we'll finally be given the privilege to see her siblings on screen for the first time in the next page.

Edited at 2024/12/17 22:03:13

Furrynomous 2024/12/16 05:14:49 No.2423583

> right now where we'll finally be given the privilege to see her siblings on screen for the first time in the next page.

Anyone got that page yet?

Furrynomous 2024/12/16 16:08:50 No.2423902

At this point, EWS is the King of the Anti-Climax.

He’ll set up an interesting scenario with his characters and have literally nothing happen besides them sitting around talking.

Furrynomous 2024/12/17 19:33:01 No.2424477

>>2423902
At this point i love fan comics more than what OG artist do with their comics; just put the fries in the bag Eric.

Furrynomous 2024/12/17 20:49:28 No.2424484

>>2424477
Are there any fan comics of this out there? Aside from the nsfw ones.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 06:35:00 No.2424639

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>Reactions are mixed to Zig Zag's appearance. She probably should have called ahead.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 06:37:05 No.2424640

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>I guess it's worth asking ... If your close relative had an OnlyFans or whatever, would you check it out? Would you - 'enjoy' it?

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 07:22:23 No.2424653

File: Embedded Video

>If your close relative had an OnlyFans or whatever, would you check it out? Would you - 'enjoy' it?

Edited at 2024/12/18 07:24:59

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 10:46:32 No.2424696

So I guess her brother is going to be the “bad guy” for most of this.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 12:40:13 No.2424710

Well, I can one of these happening, now we've met ZigZag's siblings for the first time;

1. ZigZag gives them controlling stock of Double Z Studios, whilst keeping the majority of shares for herself (though making sure their parents don't see a single penny of that stock)

2. Giving her siblings employment by putting them on managerial & administration teams for Double Z, thus keeping the studios in the family she'd both had and built up. (Similar to the B*tchkitten Sisters of "House of L.S.D" where they even allowed their younger sister to be their receptionist, and even the head of their financial department is the male doppelganger of said sister)

3. Will we ever see the only childhood friend who ever showed ZigZag family love and affection, Sandra Mollinari appear in this comic, or was she just a collab from Lord_Foxhole, and therefore isn't canon to the "S-O" series in any way, shape or form...?

Anybody else see these happening?

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 13:34:42 No.2424713

>>2424710
NO

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 13:43:33 No.2424714

I say Tina bangs one of them. Probably the brother to get him to be more supportive of Zig Zag.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 15:12:38 No.2424724

>>2424639
>>2424640
Okay, I'm gonna skip the question on "Why is zigzag is all of a sudden acting like her therapist?" and move on to the other question of why are her 2 siblings, who are most likely in their mid-twenties, living together?

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 17:50:27 No.2424753

We still haven't seen the parents.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 18:18:00 No.2424757

>>2424724

Her sister mentions that their grandparents are "there early" so they probably don't live together, they're there for some family reunion thing;

And even if they live together: what's so weird about it? Adult siblings can very well live together, specially for budget reasons (even more considering he don't want to use ZZ's fund money, so he's probably working to get enough to move to a house by himself)

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 18:19:25 No.2424758

>>2424753
I don't think we want to. But I wouldn't doubt it if ZZ's father is either in prison or no longer alive. And her mother can kick rocks

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 18:24:21 No.2424760

>>2424757
I'm probably not remembering things correctly. But didn't ZZ make a remark once about an older couple next door that helped her siblings? Those might be who they're referring to as grandparents.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 19:47:16 No.2424773

>>2424714
Sexual persuasion. Classic.

Furrynomous 2024/12/18 23:38:32 No.2424797

So we're not gonna mention her brother is just gender swapped Sabrina?

Furrynomous 2024/12/19 00:24:57 No.2424803

>>2424797
Don't make it weird

Furrynomous 2024/12/19 03:45:07 No.2424823

>>2424714
>>2424773
Eh, why not. This series is notorious for ZZ and company getting away with any form of debauchery.

Furrynomous 2024/12/19 13:57:54 No.2425003

I can't believe even Zig Zag's whole family is also the property of MaxBlackRabbit. I mean it's obvious, but it really is just Eric borrowing, drawing and using almost everything this side of ZZ Studios and Zig Zag related that he has allowed usage of.

Furrynomous 2024/12/19 15:08:19 No.2425009

It's actually kinda sad that EWS turned his comic into one long-running fanfic dedicated to someone else's character.

Furrynomous 2024/12/20 02:11:40 No.2425138

>>2425003
>>2425009
To be fair, Eric and Max both founded Furafterdark. So I guess free use?

Furrynomous 2024/12/20 03:11:34 No.2425195

>>2425138
Eh. Still doesn't really feel like Eric is using his cast of characters much for anything major or interesting compared to how much he wants to focus on Max's OCs, but I digress. Fans have been looking forward to seeing Zig's siblings and family for years, so they're getting what they want.

Furrynomous 2024/12/20 13:23:34 No.2425301

>>2423348
Who is the french maid?

Furrynomous 2024/12/20 14:29:13 No.2425306

I believe his name is Pete. EWS uses him as a butt-monkey for pieces involving Stacy and Tracy

Furrynomous 2024/12/20 16:12:31 No.2425320

>>2425301
>>2425306
He's also another one bland ZZ Studios male actors that don't have a personality or a character. He was first introduced briefly in Skunks Day Out.

Furrynomous 2024/12/21 06:16:15 No.2425455

>>2424797
He looks more like a species swapped RC.

Furrynomous 2024/12/22 00:59:42 No.2425617

>>2425320
Other than Hoss, aren't all the male actors just as bland with zero personalities?

Furrynomous 2024/12/22 10:42:46 No.2425739

When did Hoss get a personality?

Furrynomous 2024/12/22 17:19:42 No.2425948

>>2425739
Since his profile was posted on the FAD page.

Furrynomous 2024/12/24 14:28:25 No.2426486

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So her brother looks just like Sabrina and her mom apparently looked just like Endora. Nothing to unpack there.

Furrynomous 2024/12/24 15:01:47 No.2426491

>>2426486
You're clearly overthinking this. Ever just figured that most people in the world have a slightly similar appearance to another person you know? This ain't anything special.

Furrynomous 2024/12/24 15:01:52 No.2426492

And her sister is like Tabitha

Furrynomous 2024/12/24 23:43:54 No.2426567

>>2426491
Still doesn't make it less messed-up that ZZ's thirsting for someone that up until now, we see bares a resemblance to her brother. Or tonguing said someone's mom that share some similarity to her own.

Edited at 2024/12/25 01:28:47

Furrynomous 2024/12/25 02:57:23 No.2426591

I guess this version of Zig Zag’s mom was a little better since she isn’t trying to cover her face in the photo.

Furrynomous 2024/12/25 05:02:24 No.2426602

>>2426591
Wasn't she a victim of her husband too?

Furrynomous 2024/12/25 10:15:27 No.2426632

Depending on the version, it was stated that Zig Zag’s mom was also abusing her daughter as well as passing on the self-loathing of being mixed species. It was also said that she would allow her husband to beat and molest Zig because he stopped doing it to her.

Furrynomous 2024/12/26 02:11:05 No.2426733

>>2426632
How is any of that more tolerable/forgivable?

Furrynomous 2024/12/26 10:52:03 No.2426788

Again, this version of her mom might not have done those things.

Furrynomous 2024/12/26 20:33:10 No.2426873

>>2426788
If so, and she is a somewhat normal being that just took the abuse, that notion might downplay ZZ’s whole childhood trauma. Maybe not by much, but probably a little less than what she tells her therapist.

Edited at 2024/12/26 20:37:18

Furrynomous 2025/01/02 23:44:45 No.2428599

Her sister is cute, but I know Eric won't make porn of her.

Furrynomous 2025/01/03 00:38:09 No.2428602

>>2428599
Wait for enough pages with her drawn in them and there will be an AI Lora of her shortly after.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 06:04:27 No.2428905

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>>2428602
Case in point, teenage Tabitha.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 07:35:00 No.2428937

>>2428602
Which is why i trust the fans to do better work than Eric.
Love them.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 07:42:14 No.2428939

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I've always liked the potential future ship of Tabitha and Timmy

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 08:14:53 No.2428943

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>>2428939
Personally I like the idea of tween Danielle in the future having a schoolgirl crush on the older guy she used to hang around when they were little kids being babysat by her aunt.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 16:12:37 No.2429154

Why is a safe comic here? Should it not be in cute?

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 16:33:54 No.2429181

>>2429154
Users won't stop posting porn in here. That's why.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 16:36:54 No.2429182

>>2428939
seems like you enjoy the idea of current Tabitha and Timmy as a ship, judging from the image you posted that sure as shit belongs in /cub/

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 17:12:04 No.2429203

How did this turned into wanting to goon over a 13 year old?

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 18:53:14 No.2429252

>>2429154
Cause pornstars make up about 80% of the series.

Edited at 2025/01/04 18:57:18

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 19:07:36 No.2429269

Because EWS thinks this
>>2402917
is comedy gold.

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 21:27:05 No.2429334

>>2428939
Didn't Tabitha wanted to bang Timmy in the timeskip chapter?

Furrynomous 2025/01/04 22:35:57 No.2429344

>>2429334
Yeah she's prowling on hin pretty hard while he's mowing the lawn. Can't remember their ages at that point but Sabrina points out what she's thinking about is probably illegal.

Furrynomous 2025/01/06 12:50:35 No.2430020

I believe the flashforward fantasy takes place 15 years from "now".

Timmy is stated to be 16 and Danielle is about 12-14.

That'd make Tabitha 19-21 years old since she starts working at ZZ Studios.

Furrynomous 2025/01/06 16:56:33 No.2430124

>>2424639
So her Brother bitches about how they barely make a living alone without her help, then is too proud to take the Money ZZ sends them ?
What stops her Sister from using the Money anyway regardless of what the Brother thinks ?

Furrynomous 2025/01/07 16:54:02 No.2430508

anyone got Page 40?

Furrynomous 2025/01/07 18:22:21 No.2430526

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>>2424640

So, seems ZigZag's original name was Tanya, and those are her actual grandparents, not the neighbors like someone theorized before

(I would put EWS' quote about the page, but I'll save you all from an embarassing bad joke)

Bear 2025/01/07 20:21:39 No.2430554

Ok maybe it’s just me but the grandma looks kinda hot. Maybe she’s just younger because her mother had Zig like way earlier than a person usually would but the grandma looks way more like 40.

Furrynomous 2025/01/07 20:39:25 No.2430559

And now her grandmother looks like ...... Tina. WHAT THE FUCK KINDA OEDIPUS SHIT IS GOING ON HERE

Furrynomous 2025/01/07 22:21:14 No.2430572

>>2430554
>>2430559

Maybe that's why ZigZag's been fascinated by Sabrina...it's like looking into a mirror from her past...

Furrynomous 2025/01/07 22:31:52 No.2430573

EWS is pretty lazy when it comes to character models.

It's already been pointed out how many of his characters are Minerva Mink knockoffs. Now he's just copying himself.

Furrynomous 2025/01/08 04:54:21 No.2430656

>>2430526
Too bad. I'm posting the quote to this comic page anyway, and yes I hate this fucking comment.
>We get a big reveal with this page - that Tina was hanging around just outside the apartment.

Edited at 2025/01/08 13:47:47

Furrynomous 2025/01/08 13:43:59 No.2430910

>>2430526
Tanya is a way better name than Zig Zag. Screw you Maxblackrabbit.

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 01:43:01 No.2431045

...those are grandparents, not parents? How old is Zig Zag supposed to be?

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 07:43:51 No.2431113

>>2431045
It’s been speculated that’s she’s in her earlier late 30’s/early 40’s. Then again, she has been hinted that she’s of those women that round down their age.

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 11:53:41 No.2431166

>>2394346

According to this and her FAD profile, Zig Zag is still in her late 20s.

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 12:21:21 No.2431175

>>2431166
It also says Sabrina's still in her early 20s. Ever thought the site's cast page is outdated and that the comic you linked is just making a joke around Zig and Sab's age compared to the webcomic?

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 12:25:00 No.2431179

>>2430526
The grandfather here looks way more interesting design-wise, but I can't help but feel like he looks like another character Eric's drawn in the past.

Furrynomous 2025/01/09 13:31:49 No.2431186

>>2431175

Or EWS is doing sort of a "Simpsons" timeline deal. Like how Apu and his wife had eight kids reach toddler/pre-school stage while Maggie is still a 2-year old?

Furrynomous 2025/01/10 02:21:54 No.2431455

>>2431179
I think there’s a tiger guy in ZZ’s staff in Stacy & Tracy’s wedding that EWS could’ve used for grandpa here. Speaking of which, kind of more interested in their take on this family drama. Can’t imagine what him and his wife went through knowing they’re son turned out to be a drunk, and abusive nutcase.

Furrynomous 2025/01/10 03:44:26 No.2431462

I think they’re actually Zig Zag’s maternal grandparents. Notice her mom has tiger-striped arms in the photo.

Furrynomous 2025/01/12 17:50:22 No.2432231

Page 41 is out

Furrynomous 2025/01/17 16:31:17 No.2433427

Page 42 is out

Furrynomous 2025/01/19 18:54:13 No.2434023

Anyone on the new pages?

Furrynomous 2025/01/21 08:17:17 No.2434400

>>2432231
It's weird how Eric hasn't unlocked that image by now...

Furrynomous 2025/01/21 08:18:39 No.2434401

>>2432231
It's weird how Eric hasn't unlocked that image by now...

Furrynomous 2025/01/22 16:38:46 No.2434736

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>You chop up the vegetables. I'll go order the party sub sandwich

Furrynomous 2025/01/22 19:17:34 No.2434778

What was Brandon's barely subtle passive aggressiveness based on again? Is it Zig Zag not visiting often, her abandoning them, not wanting to be dependant, her career choice, or all of the above?

Furrynomous 2025/01/22 19:56:01 No.2434796

>>2434778
In ZigZag's original backstory her brother never really knew her dad was raping her and when she got the two of them taken away from him he kept in touch with his dad who insisted he was innocent, that Zig made the whole thing up and turned her sister against him and broke up the family.
Not sure if Eric is treating that as canon since ZigZag's original backstory is a bit grimdark for this comic...

Furrynomous 2025/01/22 21:07:54 No.2434840

Was that in “Zig Zag: The Story”?
I don’t remember Max going into that much detail about the siblings.
It’s really hard to separate the creator facts from the fan wank.

Furrynomous 2025/01/23 05:55:48 No.2434994

>>2434796
I feel like ZZ’s bro would’ve bailed the moment she walked in if that were the case.

Furrynomous 2025/01/23 06:22:13 No.2434998

>>2434840
Honestly can't remember, it was ages ago, but could be...

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 00:40:52 No.2435280

just came across this, does anyone have more art CDs by eric?

https://vilaa.neocities.org/art/eric/

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 02:47:01 No.2435329

>>2435280
The sad part of being on the internet for so long and being a fan of Eric W. Schwartz is when you realized you've seen every picture listed on that ancient looking website.

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 02:52:17 No.2435332

>>2435280
Try this gallery. It's not a CD archive, but it's a collection of Eric's work from 1989 to 2024.
https://e-hentai.org/g/2900661/85605886ac/

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 04:46:47 No.2435353

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>>2435280
Huh, how'd you stumble upon that? That one has been around for a long time but finding it hosted where the images are webp is new. No one has the 2012 or 2019 cds online. But you could always email the guy who made the site.

I do not own those. If I see one on ebay I'll pick it up and rip it.

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 19:12:18 No.2435505

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>>2434736

>"Controlling the flow on information is difficult when each person in the room has a different base level on understanding."

Also grandpa totally knows what she does for a living

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 19:24:18 No.2435507

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>>2435505

>A joke bad enough that it can't be used only once.

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 20:32:51 No.2435521

>>2435505
Eric is aware that boomers activity use smartphones and the internet, right?

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 21:22:18 No.2435536

>>2435505
Granddaughter, Grandmother, and Grandfather incest art when?

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 21:24:21 No.2435537

>>2435505
Leave it to Eric to put some parts of Sabrina and Endora's old schtick into Zig Zag and her grandmother. The grandpa gets a pass since he's practically similar to all the male characters in this comic.
>>2435521
I don't even think he believes boomers use credit/debit cards. He really is thinking all oldies are this tech illiterate/behind the times with current tech if smartphones and the internet are still considered a fad in 2025.
>>2435507
Point for the granny. She's not LGBT-phobic. Just genuinely ignorant of the other sexual backgrounds. This wasn't even a bad joke like usual.

Edited at 2025/01/25 13:10:47

Furrynomous 2025/01/24 21:37:54 No.2435542

>>2435536
Find that shit somewhere else.

Furrynomous 2025/01/25 08:25:52 No.2435702

>The grandpa gets a pass since he's practically similar to all the male characters in this comic.
Seems kinda both mundane and unfair when compared to the women of this series. If you're a dude, you're easy going, and pretty chill about everything. But if you're chick, you're either a slut, or a prude.
>Leave to Eric to put some parts of Sabrina and Endora's old schtick into Zig Zag and her grandmother.
Sorry. But that just makes her relationship with Sabrina and Endora even more weird, now knowing she wants to f@#$ a girl that's basically a rule36 of her brother, and tongued a woman/friend that might as well be a younger, easy-going version of her grandmother.

Edited at 2025/01/25 08:35:14

Furrynomous 2025/01/25 12:27:07 No.2435807

Once again, it feels like this was an older idea EWS had and never got around to before.

This "durrr... the internet? What's that?" really doesn't work as a punchline anymore.

Furrynomous 2025/01/25 13:11:55 No.2435902

>>2435807
It can somewhat still work, and you can definitely find a minority of people who don't know the internet even in 2025, but that requires having to change it up to something like old people just not being all that into it other than being forced to use it, such as having to do most of your payments online only. Granny here should at least have a flip phone on her person if she just wants to use a phone as intended than just a cord phone.

Furrynomous 2025/01/25 17:05:32 No.2436117

>>2435902
How many land lines are even left?

Furrynomous 2025/01/26 14:25:06 No.2436566

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>>2428599
>>2428602

Aaaaaaaand there it is.

Furrynomous 2025/01/26 14:25:18 No.2436567

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>>2436566

Furrynomous 2025/01/26 15:12:45 No.2436581

>>2436117
It fluctuates between 78-28% left in America. It seems to be declining with how more convenient cellphones are these days.

Furrynomous 2025/01/26 15:48:49 No.2436614

>>2436566
>>2436567
Don’t suppose you know the prompt used to make these do ya?

Furrynomous 2025/01/26 16:13:37 No.2436634

>>2436614
https://civitai.com/models/1179029/brandy-zumbrowski-zigzags-sister

Furrynomous 2025/01/27 05:16:43 No.2436791

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>>2436566
>>2436567
>>2436634
Anyone know if it could be used for "flashback" versions of Brandy?

Furrynomous 2025/01/27 05:38:41 No.2436793

>>2436634
hope to get the whole family in that AI machine.

Furrynomous 2025/01/27 18:12:46 No.2436875

>>2436791
Zig Zag's mother looks astoundingly normal. Like, the you'd expect her to be a massive rugsweeper to keep up an image to the outside world kind of normal.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 16:50:05 No.2439699

The problem with this whole story is really just its direction. It starts off on an interesting note, Endora becoming a target to one of Zig Zag's unwarranted advances, and then it pivots to Zig having to go visit her family again and it just drops in quality from there. I know it should've been obvious what the real focus was going to be with a title like "Stripes and Links", but why couldn't this have just been "Zig gets a letter from her grandparents or her sister to come and visit after figuring out where she lives" and worked itself from there? It's like Eric thought of the hook, thought of Zig Zig's old backstory fanfic, and then just smashed them together hoping it will work better than his past storylines.

Edited at 2025/02/06 16:52:44

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 18:53:03 No.2439770

Remember that this comic is now largely funded via Patreon.

EWS has stated that his working on Sabrina Online post-2016 would be based on a "when he's motivated" schedule. I.e. the more subscribers he has, the more "motivated" he'll be to uploaded pages.

This arc has been going on for almost a full year now and seems largely made of fluff and subplots meant to drag it out as long as possible.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 22:04:43 No.2439829

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>>2435507

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 22:07:59 No.2439831

>>2439770
Which isn't new because he's done this even before this chapter started. He's just more blatant about dragging this out, which is sad since the last chapter with Tabitha was better. It wasn't perfect, but at least it was shorter and had a lot more going on in it than this.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 22:12:31 No.2439832

>>2439829
You forgot this worthless quote.
>The crankiness reaches its boiling point.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 22:54:14 No.2439872

>>2439829

Never understood the whole adults being told to be quiet by an elder family member and obeying it. They're not children anymore and allowed to voice their opinions, no matter how conflicting it is. Guess it's probably part of respect your elders and they are part of the family. But still, once a person is an adult such things should have no bearing on an individual's choices or words.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 23:24:58 No.2439907

I just took this as the typical "yelling at family member or friend to not say something they will likely regret" than a typical "respect your elders" garbage.

Furrynomous 2025/02/06 23:52:13 No.2439919

>>2439872

Some people have a hard letting go of the authority of parenthood.

I'm pushing forty and my uncle still expects me to wait on him hand and foot at gatherings or hang out with him because "he said so". And he gets super-pissed when I tell him I already made plans with my wife and kid.

Overall, I kind of like that Zig Zag has been getting called out a lot in this arc. Granted she's immediately backed up by someone else, but hey, better than the constant ass-kissing she got before.

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 01:49:13 No.2439947

>Overall, I kind of like that Zig Zag has been getting called out a lot in this arc.
It is pretty cathartic that her mistakes are coming back to haunt her. But it’s kinda hard to think this’ll change something in her. Mainly because of her rep in and out this series would be lost if she goes soft.

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 01:55:54 No.2439948

>>2439829
Brandon really is just going to be the only antagonistic force in this story, huh? It was pretty obvious from the moment he "greeted" Zig, but I assumed it was going to be paced a little better outside of some mild barely passive aggressive comments from earlier.

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 02:00:57 No.2439949

>>2439947
Wouldn't that boost her's more? Fans already have a belief that she's grown and endured many hardships all her life, so being humbled would be a welcomed addition. I know it's not going to happen because consistent character growth and Eric's sitcom-level writing don't mix, but it's the hypothetical thought that counts.

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 02:23:15 No.2439968

I doubt Zig will be humbled or anything. As seen in that last panel. She's about to go on the whole "He's right, I did leave and I'm sorry" type of speech. She's already got the grandparents and his sister on her side. Now, does the brother know of the whole molestation thing? Or are they about to pull that out and humble him, as he'll be all, "I didn't know that dad did that. I'm sorry."

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 04:57:25 No.2440003

Hey, dudes. Sorry to throw the subject off a bit, but I could use some suggestions. Trying to start a comic (or at least a set of images) based on Bobby Dish, Helen Dish’s son that EWS/ZZ like to traumatize as a running joke, about starting a new life away from them both. He finds love in a scalie chick (I’ve noticed EWS doesn’t do a lot/if not at all of those), and I’m trying to figure out what unique type of scalie to make her. So far, I’ve whittled down to a utahraptor, or a dragon. Which do you guys think works?

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 05:08:27 No.2440007

I think a lot of people like to pair Bobby up with Roberta Kane (the Batgirl knock-off EWS likes to draw getting humiliated and raped).

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 05:15:52 No.2440009

>>2440003

Either or. Though I'd say go for a lesser-represented species. Like say gecko of kind; Tokay, Leopard, crested. Or maybe a crocodilian, get that dinosaur/dragon kind of vibe.

Furrynomous 2025/02/07 06:23:01 No.2440018

>Or maybe a crocodilian, get that dinosaur/dragon kind of vibe.
Hmmm, that could work. It worked for Bea Santello and Olivia Hanford.

Furrynomous 2025/02/08 12:22:54 No.2440344

>>2439947
>>2439968

While I'm not expecting a complete, permanent 180 for Zig Zag, it's just simply nice to have other characters push back at her and not be villainized for it like in previous storylines.

We've had Sabrina, Warren, the therapist, her boss in the flashback, and now her brother all criticizing her at various levels.

It's like that episode of "Family Guy" where Meg calls out Peter, Lois, and Chris for their hypocrisy and bad behavior. Sure, by the end of the episode, the status quo is restored, but the moment was refreshing to see.

Furrynomous 2025/02/08 20:21:11 No.2440470

>>2439829
I wasn't expecting such a passively insulting line to spark such an argument. Frankly, everything Brandon's said before this has been the least terrible thing to say to someone he earlier had a mix of feelings over.

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 06:23:57 No.2441665

I don't get that he's blaming her for abandoning them. Was she just supposed to stay ang get raped by her dad over and over? Why isn't Brandon pissed at his grandparents who were adults and could have done something?

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 06:36:27 No.2441669

>>2441665
He's definitely just mad that his big sister "ditched" them to be left with someone like their father and hasn't gotten over it despite her paying to have her siblings out of there. It only matters what comes out of the horse's mouth.

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 07:08:56 No.2441673

Also take into consideration how he might perceive his sister’s lifestyle. For him, Zig Zag was living a life of wild hedonism with tons of money and sex while their parents treated him like crap.

Not saying either one is completely right here.

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 08:23:05 No.2441676

>>2441673
Yeah, but she's been sending them tons of money. And before she had that she was an underage stripper/prostitute, it's not like she could have taken two younger siblings with her.
I could get the 'shame by association' hostility if he was a prude, but this idea that he blames her for running away from her rapist is weird.
And again, why is he perfectly fine with the grandparents, especailly since tiger-GILF could have crippled their abusive dad with one hand tied behind his back?

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 13:12:47 No.2441688

>>2441676
I think the better question is if the grandparents were all loving and trustworthy, why didn’t she bring this whole abuse thing to them, and ask them to look over her siblings BEFORE she went off?

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 13:14:48 No.2441689

Except the “underaged stripper/prostitute” bit wasn’t part of Zig Zag’s plan.

Her plan was: graduate high school, run off to Hollywood, become the next Scarlett Johansson, and bring her siblings along when she had enough money to fight for custody.

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 14:04:13 No.2441692

Has anyone considered that maybe the audience is SUPPOSED to see Zig Zag’s plan as rash, selfish, or even FLAWED? And NOT some selfless act of a martyr?

Like she got so fed up with her parents’ shit she decided to just high tail it herself and THEN realized she made a mistake.

Furrynomous 2025/02/12 18:05:21 No.2441732

>>2441692
Ideally, yes, but it's Zig Zag we're talking about here. The comic will spin a positive to her bad deacons anyway. Plus this still has nothing to do with how she treated Endora in the beginning of the story.

Furrynomous 2025/02/16 22:38:35 No.2442946

Page 45 is up on Patreon

Furrynomous 2025/02/20 00:56:55 No.2443825

Looking at it, it's another long, uninterrupted and dry speech that's supposed to tug at your heartstrings, but falls on its face again due to the fact Eric isn't all that good at writing organic down-to-earth emotional scenes?

Furrynomous 2025/02/22 20:07:57 No.2444935

>>2442946
And now Page 46 is up as well.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 07:48:25 No.2445211

>>2439829
Wow this guy is an asshole
"You should have stayed so our father treated YOU as the punching bag, not us!"

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 08:00:38 No.2445218

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>Tonight, on a very special episode of "Sabrina Online"...

"I allude to the exact reason why I even bothered writing this story".

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 08:06:13 No.2445219

>>2445218
Terrible reason to even come back to visit a character's family both writing wise and character wise. Makes one think she wouldn't ever even try to if not for what happened in the start of this storyline.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 10:21:01 No.2445242

>>2445219
Eric can't really write long dramatic narratives like this since he's trapped in a comic-strip mindset where every page has to have a sitcom-like punchline.

>>2445211
"You should have stayed so our father treated YOU as the punching bag, not us!"
Replace 'punching bag' with 'fleshlight' and yeah, that's pretty much it. Imagine living in a house where you know your dad's raping your sister, you can't do anything about it, then she runs away and you... hate her for it? Especially since they never had it as bad, because with one runaway CPS would have had reason to keep an eye out on the family.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 10:52:58 No.2445243

And just like that, any sympathy points Zig Zag earned go out the window.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 11:41:44 No.2445248

While it's clear Brandon is SUPPOSED to be the bad guy here, like most of EWS' "evil" characters, it's hard not to at least partially sympathize with him.

Consider, how old was he when Zig Zag split? If he was say, at least 12 years old, he may have felt betrayed because his big sister, who promised to protect him and their other sister from their parents, abandoned him with vague promises to return someday. She also never really came back. Just pulled some strings to have their grandparents take care of him and sent sums of money on a regular bias.

That doesn't exactly scream "close, loving relationship".

Again, I'm not saying Brandon OR Zig Zag is 100% right. Just pointing out how EWS fumbled the ball in writing this relationship.

Edited at 2025/02/23 12:54:10

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 17:29:31 No.2445317

Wait. If she had the grandparents to check in on them while she was gone, than they knew about this abuse......why didn't THEY do anything about this? Hell, they would've had a better chance of getting help, or stopping the situation.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 17:49:39 No.2445322

>>2445317
It's almost like this was a poorly developed expansion on an old story told numerous of times. Although, considering the circumstances, I bet the reason in-universe was, again, because they lacked the financial sway to get custody of the kids out of there.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 18:03:10 No.2445328

I just chalk it up to EWS not knowing how custody battles actually work. Probably gleaned it all from bad cop shows.

And, once again, he's applying 90s standards to his writing. Face it, a lot of how the world works has changed whether he wants to admit it or not.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 18:29:33 No.2445329

>>2445328
There are plenty of current series that follow this trope. I mean this abandonment issue with ZZ and her brother sounds a lot like Stolas and Octavia. The series wants us to feel sorry for them for living through abusive relationships. But in the end, you feel more sorry for the kid who has to deal with the outcome of they’re BS.

Edited at 2025/02/23 19:06:52

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 18:30:29 No.2445331

>>2445328

Edited at 2025/02/23 18:32:37

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 20:26:18 No.2445361

Anyone else feel like Tina hasn't really done much in this part of the story? She's mostly been silent as a background character throughout Zig's little family reunion.

Furrynomous 2025/02/23 22:54:10 No.2445412

>>2445361
what did you think she was going to do, strip naked and finger herself in front of everyone or something? this isn't her family or her fight - she was there to lend a little moral support to ZZ and that's pretty much it

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 03:43:09 No.2445450

>>2445218
Sweet home Alabama, incest content in the works.

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 06:28:09 No.2445475

>>2445218
This is the storyline Eric said would be "different" from previous stories, yet the only "different" thing about it was that Warren wasn't going to take an empty apology. I seriously question what the point of including that B-story with Sabrina trying to talk to her own mother was since this is the plot Eric couldn't even put the right amount of effort in despite its priority. I'd say Zig Zag should've seeked a therapist instead of a family reunion, but we all already know how what she did back there!

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 06:34:07 No.2445476

>>2445475
It was her therapist that suggested this reunion. While she was banging him.

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 09:42:10 No.2445501

>>2445476
Oh right.

It's still a really weak connection between her sudden feelings of not bouncing back from a faux pas like smooching her employee's still married mother compared to the employee herself just because it's linked the "suppressed memories" of her childhood. Although, considering how Endora is a mouther/the parental authority it lead me to assume Zig would have to get into contact with her estranged mother since her backstory barely touched up on her compared to her father.

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 09:48:46 No.2445503

>>2445218
Okay forget the poor attempt at writing actual emotional weight in a serious story moment. How come Eric hasn't brushed up on his comedy chops? This guy's humor just doesn't hit at all anymore. It's like the guy's punchlines miss the hook beforehand, and it's been like this since the latter half of the late 2000s.

Furrynomous 2025/02/24 09:53:14 No.2445504

>>2445476
Didn't he also say that Zig lacks self-control and the ability to think her actions through? I'm so sick of this series and everyone who reads it thinking her problems are so deep when it's not.

She was raped and abused by her father and neglected by her mother.

She moved out, failed to become a Hollywood actor, so wound up becoming a stripper and underaged sex worker.

She met a lynx and started a business in adult entertainment (pornography).

She got her siblings out through custody and had her parents arrested.

The End.

Basic.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 01:27:27 No.2445713

Why didn't Zig tell all to the grandparents, and then go to the police with it? Seems that would've gotten the situation resolved sooner, than her leaving and sending money while having grandma and grandpa check in on the kiddos still living with their abusive father.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 02:47:59 No.2445726

>>2445713
YES. THANK YOU!!!! That's what I've been talking about.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 03:13:58 No.2445730

>>2445713
I know for a fact this question has been brought up before, but we all already know why. It's not dramatic enough nor was a relevant thought to the person(s) who wrote this over two decades ago. Every porn star in fiction has to have the tragic backstory.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 04:05:06 No.2445751

>>2445730
Except for Sheila, Hoss, and Raven. Think Cathy has had it okay. Maybe Tina?

Edited at 2025/02/25 04:22:37

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 04:22:55 No.2445753

The sloppy writing is what happens when you try to staple a melodramatic backstory onto a Looney Tune

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 04:28:18 No.2445755

>>2445751
Raven Hunt isn't a porn star though. She's a college professor or a teacher who likes to prey on her students.

Tina has a BIT of angst since she was forced out of the spotlight due to her age. (something this very story arc touched on)

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 05:33:43 No.2445768

>>2445755
True, but she’s no stranger to ZZ Studio and its crew (maybe Sabrina). So odds are she’s done some freelance work there.

As for Tina, I was referring to any angst to her growing up. But there’s not much in her profile.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 08:16:49 No.2445793

>>2445755

That would've made a better story. Perhaps on the night out Zig tries to use her looks to her advantage only to find guys who aren't interested in her. Maybe even commenting on her age.

Thus begets the self-discovery journey for Zig as she tries to work out who she is beyond being an object of desire. Tina can come along like she's done here, as she helps her friend work through this "getting older" bit.

Would be more interesting than what's happening now. And could help expand Zig's character.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 10:00:06 No.2445804

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>Maybe not a resolution, but at least a cease-fire.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 10:22:17 No.2445808

Zig Zag scolding someone about their temper. Ironic.

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 16:53:47 No.2445884

>>2445804
If there's one thing I hate more than a contrived emotional resolution is "consensual" gaslighting. Zig Zag's temper is way worse than Brandon's little outburst. I mean, even that same therapist who told her to meet up with her family said in the past that her anger problems and constant need to force herself onto others, like Sabrina and now Endora, was the result of leftover abuse from the hands of her father.

Speaking of which, they're all really just going to ignore what was said in the previous page about what caused Zig Zag to finally visit them, huh? We're just expected to treat it like a joke despite it being the main conflict of the whole story?

This whole page is the worse thing Eric has ever written in this entire comic.

Edited at 2025/02/25 17:22:46

Furrynomous 2025/02/25 17:09:42 No.2445886

>>2445804
I think this might be the first time I've seen a story centered on familial drama and abuse where everything doesn't work. The conflict is resolved, or in this case "mended", way too fast and way too easily. No one who has that much pent up aggression and issues over being abandoned by their eldest sibling while not knowing the extent of the abuse said older sibling was put under while agreeing and knowing their parent/guardian was a monster, yet come out to still being self-centered about their own issues in the end would ever turn over and becoming forgiving about their terrible attitude causing a stir.

I know this is a fictional comic in a cartoon world, but if you're going to write a grounded story about abuse, trauma and estranged family relations, than you should actually commit to it fully instead of just writing excuses for the conflicting characters to quickly, yet supposedly not completely, resolve everything.

Edited at 2025/02/25 17:15:32

Furrynomous 2025/02/26 04:21:51 No.2446136

*sigh* Once again, EWS’s Mary Sue waifu prevails w/o consequences or change. Seriously, is it really that hard for the writer to hurt these characters, despite past traumas?

Edited at 2025/02/26 04:24:06

Furrynomous 2025/02/26 04:28:48 No.2446137

>>2446136
You're talking about the same guy who had his main character get mugged in an alleyway and recovered without any mental issues from the accident. Eric just isn't interested in long-term consequences.

Edited at 2025/02/26 04:32:57

Furrynomous 2025/02/26 05:24:23 No.2446139

I get the feeling EWS just wanted to get this arc done with and go back to watered down T&A and sitcom jokes.

Furrynomous 2025/02/26 21:31:05 No.2446334

Everyone, especially the people mentioning "sitcom". The point has been made.

Furrynomous 2025/02/26 22:20:15 No.2446349

>>2446139
>>2446334
Like I've said before. If he didn't want to do drama don't bother doing it at all. Could've at least innovated his sitcom side and get more experimental with his cast. Mix them up with each other and put them in different scenarios so it doesn't feel stale. His last storyline at least tried that with Tabitha getting the first center role in the comic that wasn't being annoying sibling/Zig Zag glazer.

Edited at 2025/02/27 00:30:14

Furrynomous 2025/02/27 00:01:07 No.2446405

>>2445218
>>2445804
Despite the page numbers being in sequence, it reads like a page is missing here.

Furrynomous 2025/02/27 05:09:58 No.2446427

Brandon got to be in a sister sandwich. I'm jealous

Furrynomous 2025/02/27 06:34:45 No.2446435

>>2446405
I was thinking the same thing - it feels like there should've been at least a brief convo about ZZ and Endora that leads to some sort of breakthrough about ZZ's behavior or *something* other than the jump cut from the "you WHAT" gag to "the audience goes 'awwww' here" moment

Furrynomous 2025/02/27 08:49:03 No.2446454

To be honest, I wasn't expecting much except for a more longer conversation. This is pretty on-brand for Sabrina Online to address a problem, talk about it a little and then move on from it.

Furrynomous 2025/02/27 17:06:02 No.2446492

>>2445218
>>2445804
Can we go back to the other plot point, AKA the main one that resulted in this reunion? It's pretty much wrapped up unless Zig's parents show up out of the blue.

Furrynomous 2025/03/01 17:37:20 No.2447186

>>2446492
Most likely gonna have to introduce her mother before we go back to Endora's dilemma, or at least more time with the grandparents. Doesn't really make sense for ZZ to gain understanding just from getting forgiveness (total bullsh*t BTW) her siblings.

Furrynomous 2025/03/07 18:54:07 No.2449190

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>... And that's how Zig Zag got those fractured ribs. ;)

Furrynomous 2025/03/07 19:06:38 No.2449191

>>2449190
Haha, cannot get it out of my mind that her grandpa watches her content. Lol

Furrynomous 2025/03/07 19:10:00 No.2449192

I have a hunch Zig's mother is going to have a royal tantrum.
"You put my hubby in jail!"

Furrynomous 2025/03/07 22:56:33 No.2449223

This is what's so frustrating about EWS' writing. He'll take forever to basically say nothing.

So much of this arc has felt drawn out, yet at the same time rushed.

Furrynomous 2025/03/08 08:41:29 No.2449331

>>2449191
…..that…..that’s fucking messed up. Seriously, what (grand)parent watches their own kids fuck.
>>2449223
What’s really frustrating is how easy she’s getting off.

Furrynomous 2025/03/08 09:25:38 No.2449336

>>2449331
Getting off with what? Running away from her rapist, helping get her siblings away from him and supporting them financially?
Oh yeah, she hurt her bitchy soy-boy brother's fee-fees. I guess he was fine with her getting fucked and beaten by daddy, but when she fled to safety that left him emotionally scarred?

Furrynomous 2025/03/08 12:08:03 No.2449345

They might be referring to the fact that Zig Zag told them she kissed her best friend's mom on the mouth without consent.

She flat out says she decided to visit, not because she missed them THAT MUCH, but because she felt guilty about her actions.

Her family immediately drops it in favor of just being happy she's around.

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 00:32:50 No.2449884

>>2445804
Her sister has a cute butt

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 00:56:33 No.2449887

Y'all are such basic creatures, no cap.

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 01:30:42 No.2449891

>>2435280
thank you for sharing my site :3

>>2435353
I had to compress it due to limitations from neocities, the website is mostly meant for easy viewing of the things that I archive

speaking of...

I've been trying to archive the United Publications issues of sabrina online but have only managed to find the first 5:
https://archive.org/details/sabrina-online/

If anyone here can help me out please email me!! uwu[at]petlover[dot]com
(yes it's real, also posted on my internet archive user description)

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 01:55:40 No.2449897

>petlover
yeah, so, I'mma need you to upgrade your shit to at least Gmail because no one should be using an email domain that screams "I fuck cats and dogs"

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 03:00:07 No.2449904

>>2449897
I didn't think of it that way, it was just one of the default domains from the email provider I'm using (mail.com)

you can also use: furry[at]collector[dot]org

Edited at 2025/03/10 03:12:19

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 04:41:36 No.2449925

>>2449891
Why even bother with that? A majority of those old books have been out of print for years with the only ones left being Year 7, 6 and 14. You're archiving efforts should be focused on the compilation releases of the old strip series instead of those old budgeted books.

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 04:50:05 No.2449927

>I've been trying to archive the United Publications issues of sabrina online but have only managed to find the first 5:
>https://archive.org/details/sabrina-online/

Man. These take me back. I'm starting to think the only reason we hate (or are the most critical at least) the way Sabrina Online became these days is because Eric hit a point back then where he ran out of things to write his characters in around 2010 and just never recovered since then. These old comics somehow always took me back to the days before social media sites became the new gallery sites due to people being more obsessed with visibility now than before and making their hobbies their main jobs than just getting their creativity out to the world and being satisfied with that instead. A time where a modestly attractive skunk girl who obsessed with an old out-of-date operating system and transforming toys was considered quirky and revolutionary and not a sign of a 20-30 something woman being so far out of date that it became embarrassing and stale.

Edited at 2025/03/10 16:31:05

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 09:03:07 No.2449969

>>2298741
Even after reading her ref in one of the old Sabrina Online books, this statement Sabrina made about Tabitha isn't accurate. The only thing that's accurate is the fact Tabitha is lazy and entitled which is in reference to how much Warren and Endora spoiled her due to the both of them being too old to be as strict with her as they were with Sabrina at Tabi's age. This is also why she was often dumped onto Sabrina before she stopped taking Endora's calls altogether.

Edited at 2025/03/10 16:25:47

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 11:17:31 No.2449987

The obligatory "new page is up" post should be here by now. Usually someone here is begging for an early release.

Furrynomous 2025/03/10 14:55:46 No.2450061

>>2449925
>You're archiving efforts should be focused on the compilation releases of the old strip series instead of those old budgeted books.

The compilation releases have already been archived extensively but not the UP series, although they are mostly the same, the UP books do have bonus text and art which would otherwise be lost to time (see Sabrina at see-CAD in volume 5).

My efforts focus more on archiving entire collections of officially released comics rather than compiling strips, see below:
https://archive.org/details/@vilagamer999/lists/2/furry-collection
(filter by: texts)

>>2449927
Agreed, nowadays it feels like he just draws for the patreon money rather than enjoyment.
I've seen many of the old popfurs try to stay relevant nowadays but the fandom has changed so drastically that not many people care anymore

Edited at 2025/03/10 15:01:11

Furrynomous 2025/03/12 00:56:25 No.2450462

>>2449190
Every page of this visit was the epitome of shit happening and none of it being relevant or important despite otherwise.

Furrynomous 2025/03/13 13:41:08 No.2451135

It's almost ironic the way "Sabrina Online" is/was compared to "The Simpsons".

Like others have said, most of the push-back to the recent storylines seems to come from the fact that the strip used to be considered great. Now so much of this just feels tired and drawn out.

You'd think with more pages and more panels, EWS would take advantage and really flesh out his characters.

Instead, he seems determined to keep the status quo even though it makes the strip increasing dated and behind the times.

The porn industry has changed. The internet has changed. Social attitudes have changed. Yet the writer acts like it's still the early 00s at best.

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 01:12:06 No.2451989

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>>2449190

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 01:17:18 No.2451995

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>>2451989

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 01:17:26 No.2451996

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>>2451995

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 04:25:51 No.2452081

Endora definitely looks like her weakness would be through her stomach

Edited at 2025/04/02 04:32:18

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 12:37:11 No.2452192

>>2451995
It would really help if Eric would actually use timestamps for these instead of saying "years ago" on all of them. Wouldn't have realized this flashback takes place around the late 90s when these two are considering hiring someone good with designing a website. That certain someone being an out-of-work skunk if you will.

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 13:11:02 No.2452202

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So we're going to recon the fact that ZZ Studio's was pretty well already established once Sabrina came along and have her there as an early employee now?

Also, heres some Granny Zumbrowski smut.

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 13:41:09 No.2452220

Isn’t it illegal to lie to investors about what you are selling/producing too?

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 14:17:13 No.2452230

>>2452220
It isn't illegal if you're going to do it anyway on what you're promising.

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 18:19:44 No.2452489

How does Pets.com work in this universe?

Furrynomous 2025/04/02 22:30:25 No.2452617

>>2452202
Please, we need to see authentic Grandma Zumbroski smut, not AI-generated trash.

Furrynomous 2025/04/03 04:45:54 No.2452661

>>2452202
Oh. So it wasn't just me. I was seripusly questioning if I misremembered ZZ Studios being an already established adult studio in Ohio by the time Sabrina answered their Zig and Tina's help wanted ad. At least this is a more noticeable oddity than Tina stealing a quote from Futurama while in the wrong timeline for that show to exist.

Furrynomous 2025/04/03 12:07:47 No.2452754

Gotta love how, even if this flashback is 10-20 years ago, Zig is like "Internet? What's that?"

Furrynomous 2025/04/03 14:32:33 No.2452799

>>2452754
Wasn't there a time around 2010 to 2011 where she didn't know the internet even then and only started using it because she and the studio needed to branch out past the DVD and home video market? It's not that hard to believe she had no understanding of the World Wide Web back then, especially when all you needed to do was hire someone who did.

Furrynomous 2025/04/03 15:07:54 No.2452812

Because Zig Zag is supposed to be 19-20 in the flashback.
By 2005, most people that age had at least an email address.

Remember Zig Zag is supposed to be SMART as well as hot. Not “nerd smart” like Sabrina, but able to run and maintain a small business empire.

She should at least know what the internet IS for gods’ sake.

Furrynomous 2025/04/03 15:35:58 No.2452825

Short history lesson:

Amazon went public in 1994
Sabrina Online itself debuted in 1996
Facebook started in 2004
YouTube started in 2005

Pets.com went defunct in 2000.

Furrynomous 2025/04/04 01:03:55 No.2453024

>>2452202
Cannot wait to see zigzag's mom in this comic, that thick milf.

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 16:30:04 No.2454427

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>>2451996

>"Cheesecake gets to the heart ... of the matter."

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 18:20:50 No.2454446

>>2454427

Impending threesome between Sab's parents and Zig Zag?

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 19:04:08 No.2454454

>>2454427
And like always, Zig Zag avoids consequences once again. It's like any woman she comes across become either bisexual or bi-curious.

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 19:08:56 No.2454455

>>2454454
I think Sabrina wasn't bi-curious. She decked Zig when Zig made her move on her.

But you're right about the free pass. The plot of this is "OMG, drama!" and then "Oh, false alarm, it's all good!"

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 20:38:01 No.2454462

>>2454446
Ship it, Sabrina's mom be bi-sexual.
Good content, Sabrina, ZZ, and Endora threesome.

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 21:12:10 No.2454472

"Remember kids, it's not rape if they enjoyed it!"

Seriously, what was the point of all of this?
It feels like EWS wanted an easy way to get Zig Zag off the hook.

So, after MONTHS of sidetracking the plot, the pay-off is "Eh, no big deal".

Furrynomous 2025/04/08 21:51:52 No.2454477

>>2454427

10-1 it turns out like this;
https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/alpacinosbaby/folder/186623/Mother-s-Intervue

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 00:40:50 No.2454519

>>2454427
Eric. Half of the audiences saw this outcome coming. It's literally some people's fantasies when it comes to Zig Zag and anyone in Sabrina's family. This is as subversive and unexpected as an episode from the later seasons of The Simpsons. There's only one way this whole thing would end and be resolved, and enough readers knew it wasn't going to be Zig Zag fully coming to terms with her behavior again.

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 03:06:14 No.2454542

>>2454454
First Helen, now Endora. Seriously, stop Mary sue-ing this bitch.

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 14:07:54 No.2454648

>>2454427
OH FOR FUCK SAKES

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 14:26:17 No.2454654

Tabatha comic when?

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 14:59:48 No.2454658

Does this mean we're gonna get kissing fanart of Endora and ZZ?

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 17:09:07 No.2454706

>>2454427
Then why was she even avoiding talking about it at all? Was she just embarrassed over these new feelings over getting kissed by another woman?

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 20:18:00 No.2454734

Honestly, I get it. It's your classic twist in a sitcom where the audiences gasp or laugh at the revelation to the confliction right around the middle or last 10 minutes of the episode. It's too bad it's partially ruined because of the semi-serious story about Zig Zag confronting her past issues and trying to improve as a person again, of which would most definitely just get walked back anyway.

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 21:03:46 No.2454747

>>2454706

remember Endora is like your stereotypical sitcom "boomer" character (she was somewhat 'racist' with Sabrina's boyfriend not being a skunk) so her being embarassed about it kinda fits her stereotype;

"Oh but then why she's fine with ZZ being a porn star and is even friends with her?" don't ask me, ask why Eric is so inconscistent with his own character personalities lots of times.

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 23:25:07 No.2454767

Jezuz, EWS gives more passes on ZZ's antics than Vivziepop does with Stolas.

Furrynomous 2025/04/09 23:31:54 No.2454768

While the writing in this arc has been especially bad, can we talk about the art for a moment?

Feels like EWS has gotten really lazy with scene composition anymore. This has to be the umpteenth time he's used the "two/three characters sit at a table and navel gaze" set up.

This might also be contributing to the feeling of repetitiveness and dullness in this comic anymore.

Furrynomous 2025/04/10 02:43:52 No.2454792

>>2454427
At this point, the rest of the family really shouldn't be all that surprised by this anymore. This is the same conservative woman who stayed being friends with the porn celebrity because they were eccentric, are the most fun she's had in years and Zig Zag's probably the only friend she has since Eric never really established if Endora has an actual friend group the same way he never established Tabitha's social life outside of her family and her sister's friends.

>>2454747
Because prude + sexual provocative character = funny comedy. Eric has loved this dynamic back in the 90s and he won't ever stop doing it even if it harms the "serious" parts of his stories.

Edited at 2025/04/10 07:07:16

Furrynomous 2025/04/10 05:19:19 No.2454806

>>2454747
Do you get paid every time you mention the word sitcom here?

Furrynomous 2025/04/10 08:56:00 No.2454843

Can we please stop using sitcom as an excuse for bad writing? Let's be honest with ourselves here. The writing and directions in these stories are stagnant, boring, and far too safe to try anything risky and we're all just hate-reading it.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 04:35:34 No.2455068

Fuck it at this point let her get her hands on Tabitha, she's already gotten her hands on the rest of the women in the family and either she gets a rocky start but lasting friendship out of it, or sparks Tabi's curiosity. Regardless she'll get away scott free apparently.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 12:55:43 No.2455113

Zig Zag already got Tabitha in that creepy “Photo Shoot” storyline back in ‘09.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 13:41:31 No.2455119

>>2455068
>>2455113
Last I checked, she already got Tabitha curious about how sex feels back in that Amusement park storyline of which Zig Zag try to get around without telling the kid by basically saying "you'll understand it when you're older".

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 16:39:14 No.2455158

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>>2454806

...Maybe

>>2454843

It's not using sitcom as an excuse for bad writing. Eric literally uses a lot of tropes for his characters, and that's part of why his writing is so bad at various points, it clashes massively when you have something like "Oh ZZ SA'd Endora and is going on a trip to find herself, but wait Endora was quiet only because she was embarassed to admit she liked it hohoho so funny";

That's why it's bad: he doesn't know how to not put two clashing tones together, and so we have sitcom tropes tossed alongside more serious stuff all messy.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 17:05:33 No.2455172

>>2455158
So in other words, Eric is uncreative and unoriginal. We've all known that since one of his most common things in a majority of his works is rooted in pop culture and parody humor.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 17:20:34 No.2455176

I really hate saying this, but even Las Lindas has better writing than Sabrina Online

shit, even JAY F'N NAYLOR has better writing most of the time (I'd still take Sabrina Online over Puppy Love, though)

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 17:25:16 No.2455177

>I really hate saying this, but even Las Lindas has better writing than Sabrina Online

Watch your mouth there. At least Eric isn't constantly changing his mind and the genre of his comic just because of unsatisfaction and a need to add new info to his well-established canon.

Furrynomous 2025/04/11 23:54:39 No.2455244

>>2455158
Good. Yes. Point made. No disagreement here. Can we move on and stop reiterating how this is or is not like a sitcom? This insight has been elaborated on repeatedly and does not need to be reiterated every few months.

Everyone here should align their expectations and move on. Don't rant that you're not getting a three-star Michelin experience from the drive thru at McDonald's.

Furrynomous 2025/04/13 11:58:19 No.2455670

I don't think it's as easy as that.

The comic has TRIED to be more than just punchlines and zany antics on several occasions.

There are several crumbs of deeper themes besides just Zig Zag's "Lifetime Movie of the Week" backstory.

Stuff like Amy and Thomas' relationship at the beginning.
Zig Zag's speech about how porn actors are "misunderstood".
Endora's racism/classism.
Sabrina's mugging.
Helen's failed marriage.
Tracey's parents being homophobes.

You can't just introduce these kinds of ideas, treat them seriously, then drop them.

It's more like someone promising a 4-star meal and delivering lukewarm leftovers.

Furrynomous 2025/04/14 16:03:22 No.2455863

>Tracey's parents being homophobes.
I thought her parents got over Tracey being a lesbian, but didn't get over her being a pornstar?

>Sabrina's mugging.
To be fair, that one did last a while. Though, I do question how Sabrina didn't develop any PTSD after that incident.

Edited at 2025/04/14 16:15:58

Furrynomous 2025/04/14 16:40:20 No.2455868

>To be fair, that one did last a while. Though, I do question how Sabrina didn't develop any PTSD after that incident.

Probably because the author didn't want to have to contend writing permanent character change, he wanted Zig Zag to be more affected by it for her character, and the whole thing was more or less just a webcomic version of a ratings trap do to the fact that the comic was slipping into unpopularity during before that storyline, not helped that the previous story was Eric getting meta and sniping at the common criticisms/"criticism" readers have had or were having with the comic at the time.

>>2455670
You're kind of just showing that Eric is only interested in writing surface level seriousness without having to actually dissect that thoroughly in his comic. I mean, we just had Brandon go off about his issues with Zig Zag abandoning him and his sister for years and it all just gets resolved underwhelmingly fast in the span of one dinner scene.

Edited at 2025/04/15 02:25:55

Furrynomous 2025/04/14 19:44:27 No.2455907

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>>2455670
>no Sheila
don't care and won't care about this shit comic until Eric decides to do something with her

Furrynomous 2025/04/14 20:59:24 No.2455918

>>2455907
Why do you simp so hard for her? She's nothing but an equivalent to a ditzy blonde chick.

Furrynomous 2025/04/15 00:10:03 No.2455967

>>2455907
take that slop back to the AI thread, prompt goblin

Furrynomous 2025/04/15 04:42:07 No.2456044

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>>2454427

>"Woke garbage. Enjoy!"

Edited at 2025/04/15 13:08:56

Furrynomous 2025/04/15 05:03:37 No.2456050

>You're slowly becoming more tolerant and progressive.

No she isn't you scrawny four-eyed Velma knock-off! She's just experiencing some new feelings and isn't sure what to believe anymore about herself.

My god. The one time her conservative mindset is brought up again and it feels like a course correction again, and it happened in the same chapter!

Furrynomous 2025/04/15 22:02:42 No.2456239

>>2456050
It's still better than Zig Zag's terrible excuse of an apology speech earlier.

Furrynomous 2025/04/15 23:42:47 No.2456357

>>2456044
Sadly, this is as "woke" as Eric will go in these trying times far after the 90s.

Edited at 2025/04/15 23:47:04

Furrynomous 2025/04/17 11:44:20 No.2456929

What are you talking about?

Going by most YouTube Reviewer standards, "Sabrina Online" is very 'woke'.

The main characters are women. Who are constantly lauded as amazing, smart, talented, and beautiful. All without them really DOING anything to earn that praise.

Hell, all Zig Zag needs is a lightsaber, and the fanboys would be calling her Rey.

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Ya'll need jesus...

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 02:18:08 No.2458671

>>2458203
Thanks, bruh.

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 17:27:31 No.2459098

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>>2456044

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 17:27:45 No.2459099

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>>2459098

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 17:33:43 No.2459100

>>2459098
>Treat your friends like family, your fams like friendlies, your fends like farmblys, your...
>>2459099
>"This is the worst kind of prejudice - prejudice against ME!"

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 18:03:37 No.2459110

>>2459098
I like how this comic is just going so far to make Zig Zag the best friend Endy's ever had that Eric pretty much confirmed the old timer has no friends and is trying to softly rewrite the scene about her being upset over Sabrina marrying a black guy, or whatever the race equivalent of a raccoon is supposed to be in this comic, to her being afraid of being alone. Keep in mind her fears of dying alone was only a small part of her character back then, and even then was a threat made by Sabrina that went ignored after that dinner storyline ended, as it was hatred for mixed species couples that was the major reason she hated Richard, who now that I remember has yet to ever get a real conversation/apology out of her on screen.

>>2459099
Anyone else feel like this comic is talking around Endora's bigotry? Like I know they're technically talking about it what with her being in turmoil over her newfound feelings over Zig kissing her, but it feels like Eric is just vaguely bringing up her past conservative behavior as just her saying or doing the "wrong thing". It's almost like he really regrets that past characterization or doesn't want to bother bringing up this part of her character again without having to be coy about it throughout this conversation. And this is supposed to be her developing as a character!

Edited at 2025/04/27 21:29:21

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 20:27:11 No.2459216

The sheer amount of stuff that happens off-panel in this strip could be its own webcomic.

Wait a tic...

Furrynomous 2025/04/27 22:29:36 No.2459304

>>2459216
You're telling me. With all the times Eric has written his characters in scenes like this we would've gotten a story centered on Endora and Zig Zag sitting in a bar late at night having see what their friendship is like fully, and maybe get a lot more of Endy's personal baggage, life and backstory.

Furrynomous 2025/05/01 00:25:14 No.2460293

This is still way better than that dinner scene with Zig Zag at her grandparents' house.

Furrynomous 2025/05/01 23:39:30 No.2460626

>>2459098
I had a similar, but much worse talk with my own mother back when she was going through menopause. She started treating me like a sonsband, and told me I was supposed to be her best friend. And I had to tell her that's not how that works. Family is family, but you go out and make friends.

Furrynomous 2025/05/19 21:04:26 No.2466039

So Eric's unlocked Page 54, but not Page 53 now. Why? This is like the second time that he's unlocked a later page on Patreon before an earlier page was unlocked!

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 00:48:14 No.2466083

Anybody wonder how Endora would look doing the Forbidden Pants Meme?

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 05:11:02 No.2466169

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>>2459099

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 05:11:32 No.2466170

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>>2466169

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 05:17:20 No.2466174

Incoming Endora makeover?

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 05:17:42 No.2466175

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>>2466170

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 06:15:52 No.2466207

>>2466169
>Moms need love too! - and Mars needs Moms.
>>2466170
>Remember, Zig Zag is considered a controlled substance in many territories, so always be careful, and take Zig Zag in moderation.
>>2466175
>Many people don't like to think about the idea that their parents have 'relations', even in light of the fact that they are literally living proof of that.

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 06:47:02 No.2466215

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>>2466175
Meh. They haven't been frisky since '05.

Edited at 2025/05/20 06:48:02

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 07:03:40 No.2466219

>>2466169
Kid really needs to get some sound proof headphones and learn to leave the room.

>>2466175
At this point I'll accept the fact that Eric wants to move away from Endora's bigot personality since Skunk's Day Out with how light everyone talks about it. What I'm not is what Warren's talking about. Since when has he taken advantage of her? He's mostly just passive about everything unless it concerns him. If anything, wouldn't that apply to Endora since she was characterized previously as privileged and fussy back then?

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 07:59:09 No.2466225

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>>2466215
Too smol

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 09:06:51 No.2466238

>>2466174

Or Endora does what Tabitha did in 2009 and does a photoshoot with ZigZag...

...or she goes one further and does an short MOVIE with her(!)

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 09:11:02 No.2466239

>>2466175
>>2466215
>>2466225

And that's how Tabitha got conceived(!)

10-1 Endora goes like Georgette in "Tina's Story" and has another kid at her age...

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 09:57:47 No.2466246

>>2466175
>>2466215
I'm starting to see why so many fans keep salivating for a sex scene with Endora and Zig Zag. She has the power to rekindle someone's marriage and sex drive.

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 11:00:21 No.2466247

Sounds a bit like Endora is guilt tripping everyone, saying they aren’t paying her enough attention.

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 11:00:44 No.2466248

Got to love how even when she doesn’t appear, Zig Zag completely dominates these people’s lives.

Edited at 2025/05/20 11:06:28

Furrynomous 2025/05/20 11:13:54 No.2466249

>>2466247
If she was old Endora, definitely. But this is new Endora, so she's just being pitiful and miserable over the fact that she has no living friends her age.

>>2466248
Zig Zag can do no wrong even when she does something extremely wrong.

Furrynomous 2025/05/22 06:56:06 No.2466782

Amy Squirrel Walk in The Park AI Remastered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gErufndaqno

Still looks like crap, but better than the last time years ago

Furrynomous 2025/05/23 04:07:26 No.2466951

>>2466170
After seven pages of this Zig Zag won't even need to apologize anymore. This whole incident has been written off as a bad attempt at writing a self-reflection story.

Furrynomous 2025/05/23 16:59:53 No.2467021

>>2466951
Bitch could commit murder, and EWS would rub it up as self-defense at this point.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 10:29:59 No.2467175

>>2466951

At this point, Eric really just needs to stop writing these types of stories involving Zig Zag if he's not going to give her actions any real weight. There's only so many times he can write "Zig Zag is an impulsive nymphomaniac with daddy issues" before that well dries up. There's only so many times you can write a character who makes a butt mold of one of their favorite employees without their knowledge or consent and pass that off as a joke (>>2125645) before suddenly having to deep dive into their abusive upbringing again for the eleventeenth time. You can't keep making a character's open sexual behavior and general dismissal over others' personal boundaries a "charming and comical" trait before suddenly trying to make it a serious problem, especially on the same page.

Endora's whole segment is just embarrassing. What was an interesting hook for this storyline turned out to be nothing but gay panicking, self-pitying, guilt-tripping bullshit made into some faux self-reflective character moment, and even then it's not a good one. These pages seem uninterested in actually unpacking Endora's actual negative traits, that being she is, or was, a bigoted woman who was so self-interested in her own issues that she kept getting into fights with Sabrina over marrying Richard, whom she never really apologized to or had a real conversation with since their first meeting, and for trying to live their own life. Instead, Eric spends seven pages trying to make it all about how "old, ugly, undesirable, and lonely" Endora is and how Zig Zag and she are meant to remain friends together. Yeah, she was the least effective controlling parent in fiction with how much Sabrina wasn't taking her shit, but it doesn't change what she originally was. Hell, ironically, these pages accidentally make her sound more self-obsessed over her own feelings than empathetic with how surface-level it all is. Skunks' Day Out really was the last time Endora's prejudiced beliefs were given any serious look with how lightly Eric has treated it afterward, as if the guy would rather sweep it under the rug and forget about it unless he's obligated to mention it again. What makes this worse is I don't even know what Warren's talking about at all. The guy has never once in his life taken his marriage with Endora for granted. It's like Eric forgot to establish him having an actual character or personality outside of being old and somewhat passive and has to make up new things to keep him involved in the current situation.

So far, Adventures in Horde-sitting really was the only new and different way Eric has written any of his stories in this continuation, and that was only because he, for the first time in his life writing this webcomic, had that story focused on someone other than Sabrina and/or Zig Zag as the starring role. It feels like such a fluke looking back on it now with how short and out-of-the-way it was, but it's true. It's much more ambitious than the current storyline, where Eric tries to do something different with how he approaches Zig's behavior but backpedals and turns it into another one of his toothless SO stories. Dude just needs to stop trying to write serious or big storylines. He's not good at them at all. He's never been good at them even in the past (>>1979723). He's just a comedy writer who really should just stay as a comedy writer.

Edited at 2025/05/24 14:00:05

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 13:07:13 No.2467200

^pretty much all of this.

The characters have become so boring that they fail to make a good story anymore, mainly because Eric refuses to confront the issues they have. He failed to do it here with Endora and ZigZag, and he's failed to do it in the past. Maybe he's afraid of addressing ZigZag flaws because she's his favorite and he doesn't want to paint her in a bad light with any seriousness, or maybe he just doesn't know what to really do with her outside of funny sex stuff. Either, as pointed out, he's not good at serious stories. But he could make good or interesting ones. The problem is that he's pretty much tossed all of his other characters out the window except ZigZag, Sabrina and Endora, and just kept the characters closest to them: Richard, Danielle, Warren, Tabitha, and a few of the porn studio characters. The problem is that apart from Tabitha's story there's nothing interesting about these characters left. Atleast not without going places Eric has already shown he's not willing to go.

I don't see why he doesn't just take the focus off of Sabrina, ZigZag, Endora or the porn characters, and switch it to other characters that he could make funny, lighthearted, or dramatic stories with. Sure it would be taking the focus off of Sabrina who is SUPPOSED to be the main character of this universe, but let's face it: Eric has done that a LONG time ago. ZigZag has pretty much completely over showed Sabrina in Eric's works, pushing her out of the spotlight more and more until the stories pretty much just become the ZigZag show. And his work has greatly suffer for it IMO.

Hell if he can't really think come up with anything for the characters anymore then why not just shift the timeline ahead and create a new stories with the future generation. The one interesting story Eric has written has demonstrated he could do more with them than he could dragging out the same tired tropes or attempting to take the his comics in a serious direction only to backpedal when the story actually starts to push back on the character's flaws. I think the brother was the most disappointing part of the story for me since since he appeared to be the one point where something ZigZag did would be held to some actual standard of accountability, but as usual that turned to shit so that Eric could maintain the status que of "best girl ZigZag can't do nuffin wrong". This whole story was a huge waste of time.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 14:00:26 No.2467206

From what I understood, the original plan back in the day was that there would be TWO webcomics based in EWS' world.

Sabrina Online would remain the SFW free strip focused on Sabrina, her family, friends, etc. so he'd have something "clean" to pitch to the syndicates/networks.

The second would have been focused on ZZ Studios, be less "serious", be NSFW, and be pay-to-view ala FurAfterDark. This way people wanting more Zig Zag would be satisfied without alienating people just wanting a silly slice-of-life strip. Both EWS and Max announced potential launch dates around 2005 on various Yahoo Groups (remember those?).

Those plans fizzled out for unknown reasons (mostly attributed to various personal issues in the real world). Other artists and writers retired from the fandom or EWS had banned them from playing in the sandbox.

The problem with another Time Skip has been already brought up:
EWS hates modern tech and internet trends. He can't deal with the fact the internet isn't a niche thing anymore. EVERYONE has access now. Other people have created webcomics and animations and reached Mainstream Status that he never did. (ex. Axe Cop, Helluva Boss/Hasbin Hotel).

A person or business having a website isn't a quirk, it's practically a necessity these days. Media, especially porn, isn't reliant on physical distribution, theaters, or stores anymore. Most people KNOW they can get smut for free and get specifically what they want without "skimming" past the boring parts. The average person now is carrying around a computer that makes his beloved Amiga look like a dollar store calculator.

PLUS, he'd have to age his beloved Zig Zag to a point where someone like her would have long retired from the business. Unless she became Tina 2.0. And as it was said way earlier, no one wants to see a 50–60-year-old still playing the field like they're in their 20s-30s.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 14:32:04 No.2467208

>>2467206
The guy makes references to Venmo, VTubers, and whatever meme comes across his feed, so he can't possibly still have that hatred for the tech world changing around him. Maybe for the landscape for the internet, but that's a common enough issue everyone who have been using the world wide web before 2010 has had with it. If anything, it just sounds like he's slow on staying up-to-date with most advancements happening around him. Happens to a lot of people with their own hang-ups over what's familiar to them.

Eric could also just go with the timeless comic angle like other webcomic authors would do to avoid being outdated and trying to stay current. The only real problem is that he's obsessed with pop culture references and satire, so that's probably a contributing reason why he wouldn't be able to do a time skip, other than it wouldn't really improve much anyway.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 16:40:25 No.2467224

>>2467208
>>2467206
>>2467200
>>2467175

TLDR = ( Not skilled enough to wright my own story so I'm gonna rage shitpost on someone elses )

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 17:24:29 No.2467231

>>2467224
Sure, gooner. Let's pretend that's the only reason.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 17:33:24 No.2467232

>>2467224
Anon who's not intelligent enough to defend blind consumption material so assumes everyone is jealous of a furry artist's success.

Furrynomous 2025/05/24 17:46:20 No.2467234

Well since it was a bust, let's get back to Zig Zag visiting her mother, if anyone has the new page for this week.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 07:04:14 No.2467337

>>2467200

You know, I had that same idea a long ago as well, but that's going to be hard to do what with how he never tried to set up a strong supporting cast of characters. Perhaps time jumping could work for characters like Timmy, Tabitha and Danielle who definitely need more spotlight, but I sincerely doubt Eric's creativity well on anything outside of porn.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 09:36:42 No.2467356

>>2466175
She better be going through menopause, otherwise they'll end up with another accident like last time.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 10:05:55 No.2467362

>>2467231

What? You wanted a 2 hour post on why you're dumb? That's why its TLDR, chob.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 11:09:56 No.2467368

>>2467362
That depends on if you have the vocabulary and time spent before your ADHD brain loses the already small attention span you have. Learn to do more with your brain than filling it up with endless smut material, you chicken choking goblin.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 13:20:25 No.2467407

>>2467368

Damn you sound desperate to be taken seriously. Trying to pretend you arnt the very thing you hate while using someone else's playground inaults, just so you can go polish that ego you keep mistaking for intelligence.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 14:28:51 No.2467413

>>2467407
This coming from the guy using said playground insults when someone says anything longer than three sentences in a thread.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 14:35:22 No.2467415

>>2467224
What the hell? Can't a user just vent their frustrations and disappointment with a story arc? Not like anyone else was giving this compliments anyway, especially when this isn't even a porn comic.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 18:53:32 No.2467449

>>2467415
>Can't a user just vent their frustrations and disappointment with a story arc?
can't you do it in a word processor on your own computer? whining about how a thing sucks isn't just lazy, it's pointless on two levels: nobody really cares how much you dislike a thing and the person making the thing you dislike will likely never see (or care about) your complaints

I used to rip on Naylor's shit all the time, but now I don't because bitching about his shit writing didn't make his art/writing better and it didn't do anything to make me productive

you wanna whine and complain? do something more productive and go write a fanfic where you execute the idea for this specific comic chapter BETTER than Eric

I know it's rich coming from me, but whining and bitching and moaning about anything and everything is pointless and only ever makes you sound like an asshole who never takes any joy in anything

in short: you're like a more useless version of CinemaSins

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 19:00:35 No.2467450

>>2467413

Yeah, I'm the juvenile using ADHD and masturbation insults. If you think those are unique burns then there isn't much more I need to say to validate my point.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 19:07:17 No.2467451

>>2467449

Honestly the most legit response. A little harsh but to a point I can't argue with.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 20:56:19 No.2467467

>you wanna whine and complain? do something more productive and go write a fanfic where you execute the idea for this specific comic chapter BETTER than Eric

It's always the "do it yourself" response. The weakest response to anti-criticism I've ever heard and will never stop hearing when people can't handle "written whining".

>>2467450
I cna say the same about your lame "write it yourself" response and basically lambasting people with the whole "retard" talk. Already proved your juvenile speak the moment you opened your response.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 21:09:16 No.2467471

>>2467449
Ah yes. You're the type of guy who hates reading long paragraphs about people "whining" over material on a pirate site and use terrible rebuttals like "writing your own fics" as a way to combat the main source. We already have one of those here and all they do is steal from the sitcoms they watch daily.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 21:55:26 No.2467478

>>2467467
>It's always the "do it yourself" response. The weakest response to anti-criticism I've ever heard and will never stop hearing when people can't handle "written whining".
"anti-criticism", what the fuck are you even talking about, lmao, out here trying to invent new terms just to dunk on people

my point is that all your criticism and whining and nitpicking at Eric's work ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE IT - Eric's not here reading your shit, and even if he were, he's the one making bank off his art while you sit here yoinking it for free and talking about him and his work, so who's really fucking winning here?

there are two ways to keep something you dislike from getting more attention: ignore it altogether or outdo it with something better, hence the "do it yourself" bit - if you really think you can do the story for this SO chapter better than Eric's doing it, you shouldn't have any problem writing it yourself, even if it's a broad outline instead of a full-blown story/fanfic

but if all you're going to do is whine and complain, go look up the "it is not the critic who counts" quote from Theodore Roosevelt, because it applies directly to you: as much as you'd love to delude yourself into thinking otherwise, whining and bitching and complaining (even under the guise of criticism) doesn't really change much of anything

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 22:35:44 No.2467483

>>2467478
So you wish to promote silence and head nodding compliance like his patrons do on every page? Explains why your position is so antagonistic. And if you didn't want people to think that, don't compare someone to CinemaSins like you're some redpilled YouTube commenter. Makes people think you throw that at other "whiners" every single day when they get a little too passionate in their replies.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 22:44:57 No.2467484

>>2467483
>So you wish to promote silence and head nodding compliance like his patrons do on every page?
no, I'm telling you that if you ignore creative works you dislike and don't talk about them, they're not going to be getting a room in your head for free and you'll contribute to those things being seen as unpopular

hate it all you want, sure, but like the old saying goes, any press is good press - which means the more you're talking about SO and keeping this thread alive and bumped, the more people (including you) are going to see it REGARDLESS of how much you hate it

>don't compare someone to CinemaSins
trying to make me stop comparing whiners to a shitty film nitpicker as if you have ultimate power over me and my life choices *ding*

my broader point is that critique is at least trying to be useful, but all the whining about Zig Zag and Eric's writing really isn't accomplishing that - and if you really hate SO, you'd hide the fucking thread so you'd never have to see it on this board again

I don't much like SO these days because most of the main criticisms (Eric's writing, Zig Zag being treated as right all the time, the boring-ass comic layouts where each page always ends with a punchline because of Eric's writing), but it's part of how I came up in the fandom, so I pay attention to it out of nostalgia and such; you don't see me bitching about it all that much because (1) everyone else already has that covered and (B) if the comic gets to the point where it's worse than mediocre, I can just hide the thread like I've hidden dozens of threads of comics and content types that I don't want to look at

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 22:52:15 No.2467485

Look guys. People are going to bitch and complain in here regardless and yelling at each other to stop being "anti-critical" or "whining" isn't going to change anything. U18Chan is full of these users and it's only a matter of time before the mod gets here to delete these posts for being "unrelated to the comic" or whatever they like to claim should be in /discussion/. If some of you don't want to read any Nostalgia Critic level, late 2000s ass "reviews" in the form of shitposts, the Fap Mode button is right up there on the top right of this site's page.

Furrynomous 2025/05/25 23:07:55 No.2467487

>>2467356
These two better have a condom on hand then just to be safe.

Furrynomous 2025/05/26 01:58:50 No.2467525

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Furrynomous 2025/05/26 03:51:43 No.2467536

>>2467467

Pot calling the kettle black. Just the next one up in the sidewalk rap battle.

Come on gents, this has devolved far enough by now that yall should be insulting each other's mothers by now. Bout time this thread had something interesting to watch.

Furrynomous 2025/05/27 14:02:14 No.2467823

There's something sad about how a comic can be so boring and lacking in anything of interest that a fight breaking out is the only entertainment a thread like this has had in years.

Edited at 2025/05/30 18:03:27

Furrynomous 2025/05/27 20:39:15 No.2467856

>>2467823
I can't deny that. Debates do make the threads more interesting. Though I wouldn't say there's much to talk about right now. ZZ just resolved most of her family issues. Sabrina is resolving most of her mother's issues at the moment. If anything we need a focus on Amy's family for a bit. Or maybe the Transformers toys again. I noticed the Minicon Whirl was basically written out of the comic some time ago. A return from him might be nice.

Furrynomous 2025/05/27 21:26:25 No.2467861

>>2467856
Amy's parents haven't been seen since the really old years of the comic, unless they made other incredibly minor appearances in the background. If anything, RC's parents have more potential for story ideas, mainly because it's nice to see a non-prudish parents for a change that isn't Spike and Carli again.

Last I checked, the Transformers toys are the least popular characters who worked better back in the strip days. I swear, they're only "good" when the current storyline has no real focus like Toy Stories, Too.

Furrynomous 2025/05/27 22:03:13 No.2467862

>>2467861
Perhaps if EWS drew in some sexy Transformers more, that might resolve the issue. The Transformers are good for occasional comedy. They just don't need their own story arcs. That said, I wouldn't mind a timeskip in the comic seeing future Tabitha flirting with Timmy

Furrynomous 2025/05/28 15:09:28 No.2468044

>I wouldn't mind a timeskip in the comic seeing future Tabitha flirting with Timmy

You and a minority people would really like that, wouldn't you? Would just become the Simpsons of future timeskips if it happened where now Eric has little to do with them but they're older.

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 06:46:57 No.2468285

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Mom alert bois!

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 07:05:49 No.2468289

>>2468285
>Just in time for twelve days after Mothers Day.

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 07:08:05 No.2468290

>>2468285
Oh look at that. A unique design that doesn't look like a copy of any previously existing characters.

So what was the relationship between Zig Zag and her mother again? A lot of attention and cause of Zig's physical and sexual abuse always seems to have been her father while her mother rarely was ever talked about. The most I got was that she was complicit in her husband's actions.

Edited at 2025/05/29 09:54:28

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 09:33:21 No.2468299

>>2468290
My guess is that she enabled him to do the things he did to her and told zig to just put up with it. It's shitty to think about, but sometimes the reason the mother sides with the father in cases like this is because they're the main providers of the home and the alternative is to live on the streets.

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 09:39:57 No.2468302

So I guess Tina decided to sit this one out?

Furrynomous 2025/05/29 10:07:41 No.2468305

>>2468285
Rule 34 bros, start your engines.

Furrynomous 2025/05/30 01:58:45 No.2468491

>>2468305
Let's be real, who is even drawing fanart of these characters? A majority of Eric's fans don't even know Sabrina Online is still going.

Furrynomous 2025/05/30 09:19:52 No.2468555

>>2468491

SOME does. I remember first (quite good) fanart of Sabrina's daughter Danielle showed few days after publishing strip with her.

Furrynomous 2025/05/30 12:29:07 No.2468581

>>2468290
If I recall correctly, ZZ's mom was basically a huge rugsweeper in regards to her husband. She let him abuse their children, ZZ especially. And that guy abused her sexually. Though I don't know the full extent of how far he went. Either way the mom is just as guilty for letting it happen. Looking at her though, I'm guessing she suffered from an inferiority complex because of her pointed ears and tiger striped arms. People an inferiority complex like that will settle for whoever, and then fight way too hard to keep the relationship. My guess is she only got out once all her kids flew the coop. Or she's a widow. One or the other.

Edited at 2025/05/30 12:31:16

Furrynomous 2025/05/30 14:53:14 No.2468611

Zig Zag's mother is actually kinda hot

Furrynomous 2025/05/30 17:18:35 No.2468634

>>2468611
Well, yeah. Where'd you think ZZ got it from. ;)

Edited at 2025/05/30 17:24:47

Furrynomous 2025/05/31 07:03:19 No.2468765

>>2468491
I've actually been going through some of the other rarer characters of the comics in the last two years. But most of it falls into stuff that ends up in the basement on this site.

>>2468555
The first fan art of tween Danielle is one of the best and sadly it's an anon artist.

Furrynomous 2025/06/07 19:49:57 No.2471039

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>>2468285

That's it bois, we're getting into Freudian territory with this comic. Embrace for the deluge of weird comments and discussions

Furrynomous 2025/06/07 21:11:06 No.2471051

>>2471039

OMG, ZigZag can see Sabrina in her own mom!

It's like Hayley seeing her mother in her husband, when she though SHE was turning into Francine...

Furrynomous 2025/06/07 21:54:34 No.2471057

This storyline is never going to end, is it?

Furrynomous 2025/06/07 22:15:52 No.2471060

>>2471039
I don't get it. She looks weirdly like Sabrina or Endora? What's the implication here?

SomeoneElse 2025/06/07 22:16:50 No.2471061

>>2471051

Which brings up interesting questions with Endora.

Furrynomous 2025/06/07 23:34:29 No.2471074

I guess now he’s repeating character designs intentionally

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 00:23:15 No.2471085

>>2471039
>Usually they say someone looks like a different person once they take OFF their glasses, as opposed to the other way around.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 00:23:17 No.2471086

>>2471039
>>2471051
Chances of this revelation resulting in ZZ being turned off by any sexual fantasy/any intimate thought of Sabrina?

Edited at 2025/06/08 00:25:11

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 00:37:50 No.2471090

>>2471086

Nah, now it's gonna have the forbidden love angle. The desire so secret that she dared not speak its name.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 01:22:11 No.2471097

>>2471090
Oh great. With that route, FAD, and EWS are on they're way to becoming the furry version of JABcomix.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 01:28:25 No.2471098

Seems contradictory, considering how often it's depicted Zig and her dad as the worst thing ever.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 02:07:41 No.2471101

>>2471039
This complex is so weird. Is the fact that Zig's mother, in turn Sabrina/Endora, looks like someone close to her that she has some sort of sexual or comforting urge when around them or is she just a real big fan of skunkettes wearing glasses? Guess when Zig said her grandmother didn't look like Endora she meant she should've slapped on the same glasses used by two of Eric's skunk girls.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 12:48:24 No.2471290

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>>2471074

Not really?

Edited at 2025/06/08 13:21:48

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 15:55:55 No.2471314

>>2471039
Definitely a weird direction to take this but in true EWS fashion Zig's mom does look really cute with her glasses.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 18:33:23 No.2471378

Zig's mom looks like an older Sabrina, not like Endora. Endora is rounder with much smaller glasses.

Furrynomous 2025/06/08 18:45:47 No.2471383

>>2471039
These implications are weird and a bit too out of left field for the same author who writes extremely basic personal drama and comedy. One would hope Eric would stick the landing if he's going to go that far in tying Zig's obsession with Sabrina, but something tells me it won't mean anything by the next story with how relatively safe this comic can be.
>>2471290

Furrynomous 2025/06/09 05:25:46 No.2471483

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>>2449891
>>2450061
Your best bet is getting an ebay account and setting up an email alert based on a keyword search. Some people auction off the whole set and some just do single issues. If you check right now you'll see several that are going for $9.

Edited at 2025/06/09 23:20:14

Furrynomous 2025/06/09 05:26:13 No.2471484

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It's rare but you can sometimes find art that the owner never shared before they put it up for sale. Pic related.

It's a shame the seller watermarked it but I'm sure someone could edit it out. I can post others in the Eric Schwartz thread if people care.

Edited at 2025/06/09 23:25:44

Furrynomous 2025/06/10 03:06:10 No.2471726

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A friend of mine fixed the picture.

Furrynomous 2025/06/10 21:53:29 No.2472008

>>2471483

I'd love t get a chance to own #13 >>2402917. It seems so weird in contrast to the actual photoshoot comic with Zig looking like a deviant, makes me wonder if EWS had a different story ideas in mind for it.

Furrynomous 2025/06/11 00:03:46 No.2472038

The days of a webcomic creator constantly releasing issues yearly and expecting everyone to just buy them in the dozens. You'd think they'd go completely out of style by now with how much of a time sink they can be just to reach a certain page quota while filling them up with extra content for individual mutuals to contribute to each release.

Edited at 2025/06/11 08:32:14

Furrynomous 2025/06/11 04:56:08 No.2472147

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>>2472008
Its going for nine bucks on ebay if you feel like buying it.

>>2472038
Keep in mind that he used to go to conventions and sold stuff at the dealer's den. A booklet with a handful of extras for four dollars doesn't seem that moneygrubbing.

Furrynomous 2025/06/12 22:41:49 No.2472948

>>2471039
Wonder what documents she wants her to sign!?

Furrynomous 2025/06/14 01:36:41 No.2473734

>>2472948

As her mother said, it's not for her to sign, it's old stuff she thinks Zig Zag should have for her own records

Furrynomous 2025/06/16 19:51:39 No.2474649

Probably her birth certificate and other similar documents. Though I'd imagine she'd have to have gotten copies for herself a while back to get her studio originally financed.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 07:43:45 No.2475219

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>Just like a heartwarming advertisement for instant coffee or some such.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 07:45:49 No.2475220

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>Happy Fathers Day!

>oof.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 07:59:06 No.2475222

Love the visuals in the last panel, but doesn't Zig already know this? Heck, I'm assuming everyone who's reading this already knows the rundown.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 09:20:51 No.2475229

>>2475220

For a moment thought that was the mother he was grabbing in that last panel. Guess there was a bit of a time jump between those panels. On the left we see Zig as a kid, then on the right she looks teenage. Not the best transition for. That probably would've been best saved for the opening panel of the next page.

>>2475222
Yeah, this page is just exposition. The part with the mom talking about them being younger fits as it's her explaining why she was with him. But after that is unnecessary background dumping.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 10:00:53 No.2475230

>>2475220
... fuck. This is really dark.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 10:33:05 No.2475232

My own father probably would have become a lot like this guy if he'd stuck around. That said, sometimes alcohol only brings out what was already there deep inside. And once someone like that goes far enough down that path, they just say "Fuck it!" and keep going because they don't see any point in getting better. Also, I'm guessing the man never got convicted of the things he did to Zig Zag, or he might not still be alive in prison. Zig could probably end him just by telling fans of her past, and someone would track him down. The biggest twist I could see in this comic would be Zig Zag's father sharing a cell with the badger that stabbed Sabrina.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 10:38:36 No.2475233

>>2475220
Okay-okay, we get IT: Zig-Zag is a rape victim. Because of this event, she became who she is. Get it. But I have a simple (as a dollar) question: why the fuck, is she still leading a depraved lifestyle? Her friend ALREADY has a child and a loving husband.Why doesn't she, change her life for the better, too??

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 11:05:32 No.2475236

Anyone else notice that all the villains in this arc have been men? Zig’s father, her brother, her employers. Heck even Warren is portrayed as kinda neglectful of Endora.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 11:35:57 No.2475238

>>2475220
Maybe this is too much, but: is there any official - or semi-official - art of what happened to Zig Zag, at this moment?

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 11:53:49 No.2475240

https://web.archive.org/web/20150819161034/http://www.furnation.com/Black_Rabbit/zgallery.htm
This is pretty much it from MBR.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 12:12:51 No.2475241

>>2475240
Some information may have been changed or redacted over the years, but it's all pretty much the same shit that's been told and used for Zig for over 20 years now.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 12:35:06 No.2475243

>>1610956

There's also this.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 12:45:03 No.2475244

>>1610956
... mother-fucking-hell...

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 13:09:53 No.2475250

>>1610956
Unbearable social conditions. Punishments, for nothing. Hard work, in the house. Finally, a sexual violence (incest).
Jesus Christ, man...!

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 13:15:05 No.2475251

>>2475233
Because she doesn't hate her life. It's just her actions that keep getting her into these troubling situations. It won't matter in the end on how Eric tackles this because she'll be back on her semi-depraved nature by the next story.

>>2475236
Kind of inevitable when your comic has a female-centered cast, but it's more of a coincidence.

>>2475238
Real fucked up wanting to see art of a teen getting sexually assaulted by her drunk and abusive dad.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 13:28:08 No.2475253

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>>2475220
Can some make an AI comic of this dude fucking the shit out of teen big zag already?

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 13:48:44 No.2475254

>>2475253
In that case, do it yourself. AI doesn't need any real skill to use if you want something for yourself.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 13:58:21 No.2475255

>>2475233
You can't fix a hoe sadly

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 14:11:14 No.2475258

>>2475219
Every time I keep hearing about the father I question how the courts haven't just forced him into mandatory rehab, if that's even possible.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 14:21:44 No.2475261

>>2475240
It's ironic how a character who couldn't get into traditional acting at the time has the most cliche Hollywood sounding backstory imaginable for a #tragic person. Too bad she's extremely content with running and working in the same studio until she'll grow old and eventually retire.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 14:40:16 No.2475263

>>2475240
For some reason I thought she was Half zebra-half skunk (misremembered), because her mom had an affair with some guy.
I assumed that her dad found out about the affair which head to the abuse and drama. *shrug*

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 14:40:40 No.2475264

The latest strip might be the first one in a long time that didn't end on a punchline (sorta).

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 16:46:57 No.2475300

>>2475258
The original premise was that Zig's mom was helping cover form him, which explained why she sued to have her siblings taken away from *both* of them rather than just having her dad sent to jail, which made sense. Somebody pointed out she might have done it because he was the breadwinner, but he'd wound up as a bum who couldn't hold down a job and drank everything he earned, so even that premise falls apart.
None of this makes because nobody seems to have a natural reaction to years of knowing that ZigZag was being raped and beaten by her dad.

Mom: Yeah, he used you like a punching bag/onahole but he used to be so nice.
Brother: WTF, you left us just because you were being raped and smacked around every night?
Grandparents: Yeah, we're super involved with your siblings now, but when we were actually needed, I dunno, we kinda didn't feel like it?

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 18:28:25 No.2475430

>>2475233

But why she should regret it? She likes her career (and enjoys the fame, not mention monie$$$), she has friends and even people she can call family. Here traumas brought her directly to the fur-trade world, but she made it there and is succesful person. She don't hate her life.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 18:42:07 No.2475439

>>2475220

Know it's been asked before, but again, why did the grandparents not get involved. Grandad stripes there looks like he could have taken this dude.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 18:57:23 No.2475460

>>2475439
I just go with the assumption that the grandparents just didn't know what was going on. Not a lot of courage to speak out your terrible living conditions when the abuser still has the most control over communications outside from his house and over his family.

Edited at 2025/06/18 18:59:10

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 19:33:44 No.2475478

>>2475460
So when Zig does get the courage to run away, she doesn't run to her supportive grandparents, one of whom happens to be an apex predator? Seriously though, tigers are the biggest of big cats and Siberian tigers are the biggest tigers. Unless she was being molested by a goddamned T-Rex, that's the door you knock on...
This arc literally has more plot holes than plot.

Furrynomous 2025/06/18 20:58:20 No.2475538

Got to remember this whole thing was born out of a low-tier fanfiction designed so someone could live out the 90s fantasy of "saving" the broken, emotionally closed-off porn star and pursue a monogamous relationship with her.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 03:45:19 No.2475690

>>2475232
The idea Zig Zag's father might share a prison cell with the badger that stabbed Sabrina is kinda a scary thought.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 10:54:39 No.2475792

>>2475300
The unnatural reactions are there to enforce the melodrama in this paper thin storyline.

>>2475232
She already had to deal with lawsuits and a court mandated anger management sessions after using doxxed addresses to get back at online trolls and for assaulting said badger assailant. Do you really want her to add swatting to her short list of crimes?

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 15:03:48 No.2475899

Wasn't it also said that Zig Zag doesn't WANT the public to know about her past?

She flipped out at Sabrina when she found out, saying she didn't want people giving her pity points and thinking "Oh, she just acts the way she does because of her fucked-up childhood".

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 16:51:51 No.2475937

>She flipped out at Sabrina when she found out, saying she didn't want people giving her pity points and thinking "Oh, she just acts the way she does because of her fucked-up childhood".

Pretty ironic since all the audience want to do is pity her.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 17:02:15 No.2475938

> after using doxxed addresses to get back at online trolls.

You'd think this would've landed both ZZ and Sabrina in jail for unethical (probably unauthorized) use of data mining. But we know the drill, EWS's furry waifus are beyond reproach.

Edited at 2025/06/19 17:05:05

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 17:08:35 No.2475939

>>2475938
>You'd think this would've landed both ZZ and Sabrina in jail for unethical use of data mining.
without intending to get too political: the asshole who shot those lawmakers in the US this past weekend used info gained from data brokers to find the houses of his victims - if he's not going to be criminally charged for that, there's no reason to think Sabrina and ZZ would be charged for Zig Zag's Mother-Fucking Revenge Tour

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 19:04:50 No.2475992

>>2475937
It's more "ironic" how despite how "strong" Zig Zag is, all her backstory amounts to tragedy upon tragedy literally written to make her sympathetic.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 20:26:08 No.2476031

>>2475792
It's not "Swatting" unless you actually call in a swat team. Which doesn't really apply to what I said. What I said was that if Zig Zag's fans got wind of what her father did, some of them would probably go after the guy. And the fact he didn't get ended in prison already, likely means that Zig Zag couldn't prove the things he did to her. But she clearly got enough evidence to at least get her siblings taken away from her parents. And from the way things look, her mother had no reason to keep trying to rugsweep once the kids got taken away.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 20:56:58 No.2476061

>>2476031
Yeah, but I doubt she'd want to waste time or abuse her influence to send her horny fans after her piece of shit father. From what I recall she tends to want to keep her family drama to herself, her therapist and to any close friends (mainly Tina).

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 21:20:57 No.2476076

I had an uncle who was an alcoholic, finally his liver blew up and he died.
But until he did, he made everyone's life he could miserable.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 21:22:31 No.2476077

>>2476061
On that, we are agreed. She doesn't want the world knowing. I just mean that she could easily destroy what's left of her father's life if she wanted to. Though she's more likely to kick his ass if she ever meets him again.

Furrynomous 2025/06/19 22:08:15 No.2476096

“There’s no better justice than Angry Mob Justice!”

Furrynomous 2025/06/20 06:54:48 No.2476230

>>2475220
I don't expect it to happen but I hope we get a few more flashback frames of Zig and her siblings. She's absolutely adorable in that 3rd panel

Furrynomous 2025/06/20 16:17:37 No.2476375

For everybody wondering why the grandparents didn't do anything this is unfortunately common or at least in my experience. Having grown up myself with an abusive alcoholic (mother in my instance) it's honestly disheartening just how much my family was willing to look the other way for to "not rock the boat". Even as I got older and started flat out telling them how she was to live with they would just gaslight me that I was making it all up. She chose to be extremely verbally and emotionally abusive over physical abuse so they though it was okay as long as I didn't have any external injuries.

Furrynomous 2025/06/20 18:34:34 No.2476413

>>2476375
But you managed to get the attention from other authorities, right? Friends, neighbors, police, CPS, etc.?

Furrynomous 2025/06/20 19:37:27 No.2476426

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>>2471484
>>2471726
tensor.art has an AI tool called Kontext, and I used it to remove the watermark

you tell me whether it's better than the one done by hand where the watermark is still visible, though

Furrynomous 2025/06/20 21:27:22 No.2476447

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Furrynomous 2025/06/21 02:09:48 No.2476552

>>2476447
There's no way EWS doesn't have a stash of Fur After Dark quality porn of Sabrina at the ready.

Furrynomous 2025/06/21 04:21:07 No.2476595

>>2476552
You're probably right. I bet he's got an Amiga full of it. Some of what is out there we have to be careful not to let become lost media. A while back I was looking for a certain swimsuit pic of Sabrina that was both in sketch and finished forms. Lots of swimsuit pics got posted. But none of them were the ones I was looking for. And people here started telling me what I was looking for probably didn't exist. Till I finally found them and posted them. I got some apologies too.

Furrynomous 2025/07/01 23:18:13 No.2479949

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>>2475220
>One might get the impression that this wasn't the happiest of families

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 06:17:29 No.2480028

>>2479949

Sad, but it still doesn't excuse her completely. Regardless of sharing the abuse, she still ended up allowing it to get worse for Zig, basically enabling it and all that. Inaction is still a form of action.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 15:11:09 No.2480133

Wonder where Tina is while this is going on.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 15:12:19 No.2480134

>>2480133
Outside most likely. This isn't really her business anyway.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 16:20:14 No.2480144

>>2480028
Yeah, mother's aren't exactly good role models in this universe. Helen's pretty much as guilty as ZZ's mom in terms relationship negligence. Endora!? Well, she maybe a conservative boomer, but I'm not hearing anything out of the ordinary like; physical/emotional abuse, communication problems (at least not an extreme level), neglect, etc. So, I'm putting her second on the bottom of the list. RC's mom (whatever her hippie-ass name is), probably a little above Endora. Yeah, she did love and support him. But it sounds like she was one of the parents that would give they're kid all freedom, and no structure (e.x. Greg Universe, Toph, Ned Flanders parents, etc.). Bottom of the list would be both Amy and Tom's mom, and only because both are almost, if not completely, not mentioned. And the little time they were, they seemed pretty normal.

Edited at 2025/07/02 16:26:06

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 19:18:40 No.2480187

>>2480144
You forgot about Carli, who's mostly middling in the motherly role model department.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 19:52:11 No.2480191

I think it was said Rainflower (RC’s mom) wasn’t intentionally negligent or “free range parenting” style. It was that she and her husband were too wrapped up in their own hippie lifestyle, always moving around, not providing a stable income etc. that made RC resentful.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 20:49:44 No.2480201

>>2480187
I was speaking more towards the mother's of the current cast. But yeah, you're not wrong on Carli.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 21:26:32 No.2480212

>>2480191
Personally, I find RC's father Conrad to be a little worse since he seems to mostly enjoy the free range hippie lifestyle just so he can bang hot chicks. Not helped that he pretty much said to Sabrina that he would've boned her if he was around her age.

Furrynomous 2025/07/02 22:14:05 No.2480224

EWS' handling of parents in his comics was brought up before.
>>2130009

Basically, the only GOOD parental figure in his work is of course Zig Zag. Because God forbid, she be depicted as bad at something.

Furrynomous 2025/07/03 10:34:03 No.2480368

>>2480212
I don't recall RC's father being guilty of infidelity apart from groping. He and his wife have a deal that they can each fondle certain people like celebrities free and clear, and both hasve done so. If I recall right, RC's mother knew the exact years she'd gotten to do it.

Furrynomous 2025/07/09 16:38:21 No.2482166

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This might be the only one where every member of ZZ's family appears on the same page, though no necessarily on the same panel.

Furrynomous 2025/07/09 18:12:39 No.2482182

>Basically, the only GOOD parental figure in his work is of course Zig Zag. Because God forbid, she be depicted as bad at something.

Case in point,
>>2482166

Edited at 2025/07/09 18:14:35

Furrynomous 2025/07/09 18:33:39 No.2482186

>>2482166
Okay. This whole heroic thing they keep stuffing in with Zig Zag is just stale. I get it was made in the time where people loved idealizing the shit out of people getting themselves and those they were close to out of a bad situation in the pre-GoFundMe days of the world, but no one in this story seems to be able to stop eating out of Zig's snatch.

I'm fine with a standard abuse story if it gets its basic message across, but take the tongue out of your daughter, lady.

Edited at 2025/07/09 22:55:23

Furrynomous 2025/07/10 06:57:55 No.2482358

>>2482166
Kind of expected the CPS to show up to the door instead of the grandparents. You know, since Zig Zag had to make enough money to even file a case against her parents.

Furrynomous 2025/07/10 09:02:38 No.2482379

I wonder if Zig's mother would enjoy hanging out with Endora?

Furrynomous 2025/07/10 11:07:00 No.2482392

Endora, Helen, Rainflower, and Zig Zag’s mom meet at a bar….

Just so something MILDLY different can happen for change.

Edited at 2025/07/10 17:54:57

Furrynomous 2025/07/10 14:23:52 No.2482452

>Endora, Helen, Rainflower, and Zig Zag’s mom meet at a bar….

And then Meeting of Moms 2 happens

Furrynomous 2025/07/10 22:32:10 No.2482530

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>>2475253

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 00:26:50 No.2482542

>>2482530
lmao, that's fucking great

(now let's see him fucking Tina Lynx)

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 01:06:18 No.2482544

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>>2482542

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 02:41:18 No.2482551

>>2482544
not what I wanted, but hey, it's nice nonetheless

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 04:31:15 No.2482555

>>2482392
Somehow, I don't think that that meeting of the moms would end on good terms. More like end with a police car outside the bar.

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 04:32:13 No.2482556

>>2482392

Edited at 2025/07/11 04:35:05

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 05:34:15 No.2482562

>>2482530
Is that supposed to be Zig Zag's dad, or an OC?

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 06:04:05 No.2482577

>>2482166
Well this just confirms it. Neither grandparent knew about what their son-in-law was going to his family until Zig Zag spoke up about it. Sorry to anyone who still thinks it makes no sense at all.

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 16:22:31 No.2482642

>>2482577
Which also means ZZ didn't think to tell them, or any authority, a lot sooner.

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 18:02:20 No.2482653

How many abused people are likely to trust authority figures to actually help?

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 19:48:45 No.2482677

>>2482653
An abused child would be desperate and try to get help from anyone they think might give it, like close friends and relations.
Either that, or the trauma would cause them to withdraw into themselves to the point that the abuse would be obvious to anyone with half a brain.
ZigZag's story worked better the way Max had done it - very few, very dark details that gave the impression that it was all to painful to recollect.
Eric is half-assing this but even if he wasn't the slice-of-life tone of the Sabrina comics can't handle actually diving into something as dark and traumatic as ZigZag's past.

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 20:14:54 No.2482679

>>2482562
I tired to make it her dad but I was like "fuck it, it's an AI shitpost anyway."

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 21:32:54 No.2482700

>>2482679
shitpost or not, that Tina Lynx pic you did looked so much like Eric's style that I really wish you'd do a legit pic of her getting fucked

Furrynomous 2025/07/11 23:38:53 No.2482726

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>>2482700

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 00:27:23 No.2482739

>>2482726
still cute, and I appreciate your peak shitposting energy, but c'mon, man, there's so little actual Tina porn out there ;_;

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 01:07:18 No.2482750

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>>2482739

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 01:20:55 No.2482752

>>2482750
lmao

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 01:24:22 No.2482758

And I thought tracing was the worst thing humans have ever done to art.

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 01:30:12 No.2482759

>>2482758
generative AI has precisely two good uses: shitposting and porn

and of the two, shitposting is the better use

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 17:55:31 No.2482896

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>>2482759
Why not both?

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 18:08:47 No.2482897

>>2482759
Not really, not by a wide margin, genAI regardless of use, will without fail look like shit.

Even by shitpost standards and that's saying something.

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 19:14:41 No.2482912

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>>2482897
This reminds me about how I originally wanted to troll the guy asking for Tina porn by posting this instead.

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 19:16:34 No.2482913

why am I not the least bit surprised that an AI genner is an unrepentant asshole

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 19:59:25 No.2482935

>>2482897
I get what you're saying, but the genuinely sad fact is most AI slop beats Eric's work these days. I've been into furry for a while and I remember the days when his stuff was top-notch, but his art is stuck in the era when people had screens working in 800x600 resolutions displaying 256 colors...

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 21:17:50 No.2482942

>>2482530
I find it both ironic and disturbing ZZ's father is angry-humping a tiger-striped pillow. Well I guess he can get all the humping he wants in prison. I can only imagine how bad he'll look if he actually appears in the comic. If anything he'll either become an in-and-out character, or he'll try to go after ZZ or her friends in some twisted way till he gets his ass kicked and sent back to prison. Either way, I do wonder just how much of a narcissist he'll be if he appears.

Furrynomous 2025/07/12 22:35:50 No.2482952

>>2482935
The death of art integrity is always inevitable when the easier option is the more satisfying for the common user. Can't believe some of you are this open enough to say something that only comes from other already existing pieces is automatically better just because an artist's input and productivity is outdated.

Foxtide888 2025/07/13 01:28:15 No.2482973

I don't usually make myself known on this website. But I never minded that EWS's style is outdated. I live a little bit in the past myself. It's 2025, and I still use portable DVD players, drive a truck from the 90s, and game on retro emulators or old consoles. I'm more interested in the story. I've been invested in this webcomic for 15 years. If anything I actually find it comforting that EWS's style has remained consistent. And he actually has his characters age. Sabrina was 22 at the start of the comic, and is around 31 now. ZZ was 27 when she first appeared, and that'd make her about 36 now. And if I can recall right, RC might be two to three years older than Sabrina, so he's maybe 33 or 34 now. I admit it's been a long time coming showing ZZ's family. But at least this arc is putting more understanding with ZZ's obsession with Sabrina, since it turns out Sabrina reminds ZZ of her mother. And in the future, I hope we see more spotlight on Sabrina's sister Tabitha as she navigates being a teenager, and eventually an adult that's starting her own career, as well as looking for love.

Furrynomous 2025/07/13 01:48:44 No.2482976

>>2482973
>I don't usually make myself known on this website.
you should've kept it that way

Furrynomous 2025/07/13 04:13:24 No.2482992

>>2482942
I was hoping for enough of his face or stature to be revealed for a commission and thankfully I think there's enough to work with.

That pillow ain't going to be the only striped thing he's humping.

Furrynomous 2025/07/13 07:50:02 No.2483019

>>2482913
How can I be unrepentant if I post Biblically accurate Tina porn?

Also, I feel the dyslexic gag has run it's course. I don't like posting gens if it's not bouncing off of something.

Furrynomous 2025/07/13 08:16:41 No.2483020

>>2482976
>you should've kept it that way
Well that wasn't very nice

Furrynomous 2025/07/14 03:01:22 No.2483200

>>2482677
It's not just Sabrina Online. Eric generally isn't good at writing anything serious or generally not committing fully to it for a storyline regardless if it's PG, PG13, or hard R. We're just lucky he at least finally bothered to have Zig Zag's family show up after nearly 30 years of this comic.

Furrynomous 2025/07/24 07:22:35 No.2485762

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Clearly in a moment of rage, she attacked and tried to crush her estranged daughter.

Furrynomous 2025/07/24 09:29:12 No.2485773

I wanna say something funny, or witty, or even intentionally stupid. But this time I got nothing....

Furrynomous 2025/07/24 11:26:05 No.2485787

How about, "No tongue, Mom!"

Furrynomous 2025/07/24 19:05:28 No.2485881

>>2485762
Mom and daughter porn moments at the studio?
Mama Z is gonna find out the money is really good.

Furrynomous 2025/07/27 00:59:16 No.2486393

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>>2476426
Tough to say. The watermark removal looks more thorough but the slight upscale has made the whole image grainier.

I barely know anything about touching up images. Jacking the contrast up makes it look like the older images Eric used to publish in black and white. That's probably the way to go with these.

Furrynomous 2025/07/28 07:35:27 No.2486769

>>2485762
We will probably never see her family again after this storyline, so we'll probably never see all of their feelings resolved unless Eric pulls a Transmission.

Furrynomous 2025/07/28 10:07:58 No.2486790

If anything, I'd like to see ZZ's mom hang out with Endora and RC's mom. They could be the mom trio

Furrynomous 2025/07/28 16:57:08 No.2486859

>>2486790
I feel like it'd be hilarious if they ended up at each other's throats in contrast to the previous meeting of the moms.

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 18:17:54 No.2488106

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>>2485762

>(cheesy announcer voice) "AND WE'RE BAAAACK!!"

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 19:50:34 No.2488124

>>2488106
……….da hell was that?

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 20:14:33 No.2488139

>>2488106
That's a telling sign she still has far too many issues to work out in a single story.

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 20:18:17 No.2488140

>>2488124
A fizzle. I really don't get why Eric chose to do this arc. It's a good idea in general, but it would have required seriously heavy drama - words shouted in anger, characters breaking down in tears... heavy cathartic drama shit. I don't think he can pull that off, and even if he had it wouldn't have fit the slice-of-life tone of the Sabrina comics.

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 21:53:18 No.2488161

>I really don't get why Eric chose to do this arc

My guess is that he felt like it was a self-imposed requirement. Zig Zag's his favorite character to write and he knows that most expect more exploration into her past, so he decided to have it while giving his Sabrina cast something to do as a B-plot. Problem is the fact he can't commit to heavy drama since that's way out of his wheelhouse, as you said, so it was always going to be unsatisfying. I'm still more upset how he handled Endora and "I'm so lonely" speech.

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 23:08:48 No.2488168

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>>2488161
More or less. All I get out of this from what he said back then in that Toy Stories, Too story is that he wanted to make it a "more ambitious ZZ Studio-focused story", but it's mostly just Zig Zag practically throughout this run. Feels like he didn't think of the premise all that much more other than having Zig Zag in it, but I digress.

Point is, this is a weak family drama story with Sabrina tacked onto it, with a weak B-plot focused on Endora that started so strong before fell over itself and died in the corner. It especially didn't help that it came after the Tabitha story which was actually pretty good for once.

Furrynomous 2025/07/31 23:20:04 No.2488170

>>2488161
Endora's behavior there was mild compared to people in similar situations. When I became an dult and moved out, my mother started infantilizing me any time I was around her. And she once told me while sobbing that I was supposed to be her best friend. I told her to go out any make some friends. At least Endora did that.

Furrynomous 2025/08/03 04:06:04 No.2488717

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Furrynomous 2025/08/03 04:14:39 No.2488720

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Furrynomous 2025/08/03 04:15:06 No.2488721

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>>2488720

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 04:55:53 No.2489602

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>>2488106
>Not wanting to risk seeing something improper at their parents' home, two skunk sisters decide to lay low at a porn studio instead.

>(AKA the 'butts' page)

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 04:59:01 No.2489603

While I know this is just a breather page, I really wish this was the main plot.

Anyone else think Sheila's fur color is getting darker?

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 05:15:11 No.2489611

I was expecting Darke Katt at the desk, considering an old image showed she got promoted in the future to work the budget, and clashed with Sheila.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 05:30:19 No.2489614

>>2489611
That was an old pic of her in the future. That has no relevancy here. And besides, she's a grumpy foul-mouthed janitor who's barely ever present in any of these stories to begin with.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 05:42:01 No.2489615

>>2489614
True. But wouldn't you like to see more of Darke Katt? I would.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 05:44:25 No.2489617

>>2489602
How old is Tab now? Cause seeing her in a porn studio still feels wrong.
>>2489603
Yeah, I’ve been noticing that too.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 05:52:56 No.2489622

>>2489617
Tabitha is around 12 at this point. But Sabrina has been bringing her into the studio since before her parents knew. And besides, I'm sure Warren and Endora want some alone time right now.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 06:04:14 No.2489624

>>2489622
There's her or Amy and Thomas's apartment, but that wouldn't be as funny as where they decided to hang out for awhile.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 08:01:05 No.2489693

OK, I get that Tabitha has been at ZZ studios before, but responsible Sabrina is having people pitch porn ideas to her tween sister? A I missing something here?
Darkke would have been a good choice here, if Sabrina feels uneasy about saying no to people, the studio's grumpycat would make an ideal hatchetman.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 10:52:06 No.2489759

>>2489693
Yeah, I don't think EWS really thought things through with this page. Darke Katt would have been a much better choice

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 11:57:37 No.2489767

This is a pretty standard joke. (avoiding the dreaded s-word here)

Like when Bart worked for a burlesque house in one episode.

But yeah. Still creepy that EWS is continuing to have Tabitha hang around this place during work hours.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 12:22:52 No.2489770

>>2489767
Yeah, but this is a hard-core porn studio. A project pitch would need to be extremely graphic, like shocking for most adults.
At first I thought Sabrina did it so that the actors and actresses would get cold feet at the thought of explaining that kind of stuff to a child, but then the skunkettes got their appoved. Maybe their project was something really tame which was why it got turned down up until now?

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 12:41:00 No.2489774

Yet another reminder that EWS doesn't really know how these places actually work.

Just plug in the type of jokes that have been done elsewhere with the twist of "but it's a porn studio!".

Thinking about it, it clashes even more with the months of previous strips going on and on about how Zig Zag and her family dealt with decades of physical and sexual abuse.

Edited at 2025/08/06 12:47:20

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 18:44:30 No.2489838

Guys, I'm pretty sure this is just a prank. Stacy, Tracy, and Sabrina are peering through the door frame and Tabi is phoning it in while wearing Sabrina's thick glasses.

Edited at 2025/08/06 19:55:48

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 19:15:00 No.2489850

>>2489838
Ahhh, missed that one. That actually makes sense. It could backfire catastrophically though...

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 19:22:01 No.2489851

>>2488717
Whoever did this Amy comic, keep 'em comin'. Amy needs some time in the sex spot light.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 21:22:50 No.2489882

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Furrynomous 2025/08/06 21:42:11 No.2489886

>>2489602
Going to have to keep Tabitha with glasses in mind, as well as what Sheila could do to wow her if the other skunks weren't keeping an eye.

Hopefully the next comic we see more Tabitha and Danielle.

Furrynomous 2025/08/06 22:44:29 No.2489891

>>2489602
At first, I wondered what had happened to Sabrina's glasses.
Either she was going for contact lenses, to make her look less nerdy, should a client arrive at the studio for a contract offer, or EWS had simply forgot to draw them in...before I saw them on Tabitha*

>>2489838
...then I read this and understood why they were missing from her face.

* = Let's hope Tabitha doesn't end up turning into Sabrina and vice versa**. Man that would be a freaky Friday(!)

(** = Ironically, that IS how this series take on "Jekyll & Hyde" ends, with Endora being Jekyll and ZigZag as Hyde; Sabrina, either in the role of the secretary to main protagonist lawyer (played by Warren) or a young female police officer, out of curiosity, downs the last of the Hyde formula and turns into Tabitha!
And whilst Hyde-ZigZag made the streets safer for the night-walkers and women of the streets, Tabitha-Hyde would make the streets safer for the urchins and street-kids, and thus became a take on the Artful Dodger)

Furrynomous 2025/08/07 05:05:35 No.2489949

>>2489602
>Meets and befriends a famous sex worker to the point of being her only role model
>Starred in a personally safe but saucy photoshoot with said famous sex worker
>Has basically been exposed to pornography at an early age
>Repeatedly is allowed into porn studio regardless of age

At this point, she may as well just work here with how much exposure and indirect "grooming" she's had ever since Sabrina was forced to watch her back in the day while at work. Let's make that future vision come true early since nobody has a problem with a 12 year old being inside a porn studio.

Furrynomous 2025/08/10 06:16:28 No.2490905

Looks like Zig Zag's father finally makes a physical appearance, and in prison no less, in the newly released page based on what I can tell from the blurry preview. At least this time he looks different than how Eric's been drawing the rest of Zig's family.

Furrynomous 2025/08/10 06:59:08 No.2490912

>>2490905
WTF?
So it's gonna be:
>Hey kiddo, sorry I beat and raped the shit out of you. It wasn't me, it was just the booze.
>That's okay dad, sorry for getting you sent to prison.

This is like "Press F to get closure..."

Furrynomous 2025/08/10 06:59:22 No.2490913

>>2490905
I can only imagine how much of a creep Zig's father is. After seeing that AI image of him humping a tiger striped pillow, thus far I can only see him as a daughter obsessed lunatic that's just waiting to show up

Furrynomous 2025/08/10 07:28:16 No.2490917

>>2490913
Zig's father had always been 'too terrible to portray'. I don't think there was ever any canon art showing his face. What is Eric thinking, trying to actually depict an unrepentant, violent child abuser in a lighthearted slice-of-life comic? Who thinks they can have talking toys and kiddie-rapists in the same comic?

Furrynomous 2025/08/10 09:26:53 No.2490932

>>2490917
You make a good point. But I wouldn't say no to seeing Zig beat the shit out of the guy if he shows up.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 12:27:42 No.2491526

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>>2489602
>Many of you were wondering. Now you know.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 13:16:56 No.2491530

>>2491526
Not surprised he's an unapologetic POS. At least he's not trying to pretend to be a good guy.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 14:37:39 No.2491547

>>2491526
Holy shit, he's actually trying to make those lame si***m jokes about this? Seriously? Years of violent beatings and rape of a little girl be her dad?
That's it, I'm out. There's bad ideas, but this... this is "Maybe we should put grandpa in a home..." kind of stuff.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 15:05:45 No.2491552

Dude. He's an asshole in prison. Zigzag's hate is justified. He's supposed to be this level of shitty person. Bad people are bad. If you want safe non-triggering content, this isn't the comic for you. Go watch Steven universe instead.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 15:33:38 No.2491559

>>2491552
You're missing my point. This IS safe, and there's no safe way to cover a subject this grim and raw. The only way to actually tackle it would be with something that needs a trigger warning, like the original dark art Max Blackrabbit did of this part of Zig's life.
Eric's trying to cover the topic in the comic strip/webcomic mindset he never grew out of where every page has to have a weak punchline. It's not triggering, it's cringe as fuck...

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 15:56:02 No.2491565

I’m suddenly imagining that line in Peter Griffin’s voice…

Seriously, why is this even happening?
Is she really expecting closure or forgiveness from him?

Who am I kidding. 5 to 1 he breaks down and begs for it while admitting how awful he is compared to her.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 16:21:04 No.2491577

I'm kinda lost here. How does confronting her alcoholic, molesting father resolve her tongue wrestling her best friend's mother?

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 16:24:21 No.2491578

>>2491559
Seriously, this kind of content and Eric's comic-writing style go together like peanut butter and shards of broken glass. He was better off cutting to Zig going back home than cutting to Zig visiting her child-molesting, wife-abusing, irredeemable piece of shit father in prison. I get that dark humor is a thing, but there's no amount of "every page needs a joke at the end" writing that can lighten the mood in this specific situation. For fuck's sake, the "joke" is that her father is trying to justify RAPING HIS UNDERAGE DAUGHTER. That's not funny - that's some sick sociopathic shit.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 16:51:22 No.2491592

>>2491526
>"Sure you were underage, but the sexy kind of underage."

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 18:06:02 No.2491616

>>2491577
I think Eric wants to 'clean up' ZigZag the way he cleaned up Endora from her racism/speciesm, but since Zig has been kind of a one-note sexual harassment joke for ages he has to make a big dramatic arc to change her.

And speaking of ages, how long has her dad been in prison? I think we're talking something like... 20 years? Like, how long a sentence could he have gotten for child abuse/rape, especially if his wife didn't testify about her own beatings? Bad behavior could have gotten the sentence extended, but the only people he ever beat were his wife and child. Guys like that usually end up like prison bitches when they do a long haul, don't exactly go around picking fights.

Furrynomous 2025/08/12 18:37:21 No.2491622

>I think Eric wants to 'clean up' ZigZag the way he cleaned up Endora from her racism/speciesm

Except dealing with "my dad is an chronic alcoholic man who beat my mother and molested me" isn't on the same level of "my mom's a fussy bigot". This is way to delegate of a topic to write in your overly comedic webcomic, so when you're not even bothering to treat it with the weight that it deserves by dropping all the weekly punchlines, you're doing it a massive disservice to the subject.

Also, Endora's racism was only one aspect of her character to fix, but let's be honest, Eric kind of abandoned that like her passive hypocritical self-centrism years ago.

Edited at 2025/08/12 18:41:24

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 02:11:41 No.2491801

>>2491526
Got to say, featuring a child molester in your mostly safe for work slice-of-life story is definitely a choice to make. Hopefully this doesn't end with a forced emotional speech and unearned apology from either party. That would be the worse thing this comic would ever done just to avoid any complicated feelings.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 02:30:25 No.2491805

I'm wondering that since ZZ's father is the only inmate in the visiting room, if he's a sequestered prisoner. They do that sometimes for inmates like him.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 03:12:19 No.2491810

>>2491526
Hmmm. You know, I thought he'd be bigger.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 03:33:21 No.2491814

>>2491805

If Zig wants to really get even with her father, she should tell someone in that prison that "That's the guy who molested me when I was a teeny bopper."

The other inmates willl say, "You molested THE Zig Zag when she was underage?"

He's never get out of that prison alive.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 03:41:22 No.2491815

>>2491810
People like him can often seem big when bullying and forcing their will on others. But then you see them years later and realize, they're not that big

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 06:09:39 No.2491857

>>2491814

Depending on the prison, they do keep sex offenders in separate units away from gen pop, and never let them mingle. If that is the case, he'd only be around others with similar offenses. So, Zig could mouth all she wanted to other prisoners, but there is little they could do to reach him.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 06:30:42 No.2491860

I wonder if Zig's father was ever actually convicted of what he did to her. He was still at home for some time after she left, and the mother was paranoid enough to have a doorbell cam in case he got out. Thus far it seems like he's only in prison for lesser charges like battery. Because if he'd been convicted of the stuff he did to Zig Zag, he might have been in prison all that time. I'm guessing there was either no evidence, or a stature of limitations. That said, openly talking about it with a guard nearby listening might not do him any favors.

Furrynomous 2025/08/13 10:23:38 No.2491888

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SomeoneElse 2025/08/13 23:37:00 No.2492047

>>2491814
A lot of prisons are not near population centers so visitors tend to be more sporadic in nature.
And a lot of times the prisoner is being held halfway to bumfuck egypt from their home town so anyone who wants to visit them needs to schedule a whole day off to drive there and see them.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 03:48:10 No.2492081

Lately I've been seeing a news story about that associate of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell.
She's been moved from a Florida prison, to a minimum security prison in Texas. Complete with work release priviledges. Something in this case of Epstein and his crony really stinks.

As to Zig's father, I think he was caught in a really serious crime, like selling dope or armed robbery.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 04:33:50 No.2492093

>>2492081
Dude! This isn't the place to bring up politics or Epstein. Keep it on topic to the comic.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 04:56:15 No.2492095

There's no politics in my post.
This has to do with prisons, and sex offenders.
Epstein and Maxwell are sex offenders, as is Zig's father. Probably he is in jail for this, maybe for something more.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 05:54:44 No.2492107

>>2492095
There is politics in your post, because you mentioned something didn't smell right about the case. And then about Ghislane Maxwel being moved to a more comfortable prison. Politics were the reason for all of that. It's all over the news enough as it is. We don't need it here too.

Also, this comic is about a fictional prison, with a fictional inmate, that may not even be a registered sex offender because he may not have ever actually been arrested for what he did to Zig Zag since left home as a teenager, and then came back later when she had the money to get her grandparents custody of her siblings. And by the father's own admission, he never sexually did anything to his other daughter. He was potentially arrested for wife beating and other stuff like that. But from the way Zig and her mother talked about it, the father's current stay in prison may have nothing to do with the past family situation. The mother wouldn't have needed a restraining order if he wasn't free at some point.

Just keep stuff like Epstein out of this thread for all our sakes. The real world is depressing enough. That's one of the reasons people come here.

Edited at 2025/08/14 07:51:01

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 13:23:52 No.2492199

Hopefully soon we'll find out excatly why Zig's father is in jail.
I did notice in the last panel that her father sort of blamed her for being molested, sex offenders are notorious for doing that.
"It's not my fault, he/she seduced me!"
"He she was wearing sexy clothes!"
Or in this case, Zig "filled out crazy."

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 13:34:37 No.2492200

Also remember that Non-consensual/rape is a frequent theme in EWS’ work and often used for humor.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 14:06:23 No.2492202

>>2492200
Except for when Zig Zag's father issues resurface. That's when it suddenly needs to take a small step back.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 15:55:31 No.2492210

>>2492199
Admittedly yes. Passing the blame is something they do a lot. "It's her fault for being such a tease!". They even made fun of that sort of thing in the second Airplane movie with that horrible dad that was on the shuttle.

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 17:03:01 No.2492216

>>2492210
In her original backstory, her father had been beating her because of her 'attitude' or something for years before she hit puberty, and then he started raping her. It's sadistic sociopath behavior - sex was just a new way of hurting her.
In the original Brandy never got raped but it wasn't because her boobs weren't big enough. It was because by the time she hit puberty ZigZag was already a runaway and things like that tend to flag you with CPS, so her dad had to tone things down or get sent to prison as a child rapist with no street rep. Right into the hands of the booty warrior...

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 20:22:33 No.2492240

Zig's life is the way it is because of how she grew up. So, the question is then what her life would be like if she had had a normal youth? Would she just be an office worker? A wife with a couple of kids of her own, going to PTA meetings, and taking part in bake-offs? Or would she still have gone into stripping and limited prostitution, as was shown with the flashback when she met Tina?

So, in some twisted way, then, she owes her current life and success to him and his actions.

Edited at 2025/08/15 03:57:05

Furrynomous 2025/08/14 20:48:16 No.2492242

Zig Zag's dad abusing her is only part of her backstory.

Another part of it was that despite her amazing acting talent (cough), Zig was rejected by mainstream Hollywood because of her appearance.

So she might still have gone into porn anyway.

Furrynomous 2025/08/15 07:41:13 No.2492357

>>2492242
So, in other words, she would've just been a normal sex worker without the baggage.

Furrynomous 2025/08/16 13:53:10 No.2492637

>>2491526

This page pretty much sums up when people say "Sabrina Online" has a tone problem.

For *decades* whenever Zig's dad was brought up, the comic treated his actions as dead serious. There weren't jokes made about whether Zig enjoyed it or compared him to her later flings, co-stars, etc.

He was always this dark, vile monster that she wanted to forget because the law already dealt with him.

Now, when he finally shows up, not only does EWS treat what he did as a joke, he gives HIM the punchline.

It's practically a Seth MacFarlane cut away gag. "Of course I molested/raped you! You were hot!"
You can almost hear the line being given in Glen Quagmire's or (later seasons) Peter Griffin's voice.

It's like Frodo and Sam getting to Mount Doom and they start making fart jokes.

Furrynomous 2025/08/16 13:54:42 No.2492638

Her dad being in jail for so long may depend on what else he was caught doing.

Remember, "white trash backstory". And I think the Zig Zag Story fanfiction implied he was a career criminal by the point he decided to start beating/molesting his kids.

God, I hate having to keep looking back at that. It's really boring writing, to be honest.

Edited at 2025/08/16 14:06:26

Furrynomous 2025/08/18 06:34:28 No.2493160

>And I think the Zig Zag Story fanfiction implied he was a career criminal by the point he decided to start beating/molesting his kids

Bro. What is with people adding so much lore to a character? We're dealing with a porn actress. Abuse stories don't need to have this much depth for someone so two-dimensional.

Furrynomous 2025/08/18 11:16:02 No.2493199

>>2493160
Not unless if you're reusing an old story from a fan in the past that the artist decided to stick to the character as canon (which sucks really).

Furrynomous 2025/08/18 11:39:36 No.2493211

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Furrynomous 2025/08/25 01:03:55 No.2495339

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>Once more unto the breach!

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 01:07:27 No.2495340

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>Gotta test out that shatterproof glass!

Edited at 2025/08/25 01:08:40

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 01:33:04 No.2495341

This whole idea of closure is such nonsense. Of course he isn't sorry about it. This is the biggest waste of time in this whole trip.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 02:15:10 No.2495345

>>2495341
Eh, closure itself is nonsense.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 02:36:14 No.2495350

>>2495341

>>2495345

I wouldn't call closure nonsense, it can be helpful. The idea that closure needs to include forgiveness is nonsense. I wouldn't call her visiting her dad a waste of time, maybe she just wants to confirm he's a POS.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 04:25:18 No.2495358

I don't blame ZZ a bit, for wanting to really physically hurt her dad.
I would have used a taser though, at the very least.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 04:44:46 No.2495362

>>2495339

"Some things happened," like kissing the mother of a coworker, which somehow started this whole soul-searching arc.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 07:55:39 No.2495380

>>2495350
Her siblings might not be sure he's a POS, but after years of having him kick the shit out of her and then switching to raping her... I'm pretty sure Zig knows.

But this whole arc is basically just ZigZag ticking things off her troubled past checklist. Eric is so bad at writing human drama and emotion that he went into more depth on how *toys* feel when a new version of their character is released than covering one of his main characters trying to resolve childhood abuse and trauma...

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 13:18:38 No.2495410

>>2495380
>Eric is so bad at writing
You could have stopped there and still been accurate. This is the same guy who, not two pages earlier, ended the page with a "joke" about the sexual assault of an underage girl. He's so stuck in the "newspaper strip" style of writing that he thinks every page needs a "punchline", even when the "punchline" is "hey, you were hot as a kid, look what you made me do to you".

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 21:55:28 No.2495509

"Eric can't write actual drama" has been repeated so often that I'm more questioning why he continues to try. He has to have an actual interest in touching subjects like this even if he's only good at newspaper/sit-com style writing structure. Otherwise, he wouldn't still be writing this supposedly emotionally charged story if he liked keeping things slice-of-life.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 22:07:25 No.2495510

>>2495340
hoenstly I'm glad this isn't becoming some moment of empathy.

Furrynomous 2025/08/25 23:27:41 No.2495516

But exactly WHAT is he in jail for in the first place?

Furrynomous 2025/08/26 01:31:53 No.2495529

>>2495516
My guess would be domestic violence, non-sexual child abuse of ZZ's siblings, or both.

Furrynomous 2025/08/26 08:57:51 No.2495594

>>2495509

It's the curse of being a furry artist. You want to be known for drawing something other than porn, so you try to add realistic life problems to your story; but this isn't real life, it's erotic animal cartoon people. Unless you're making Bojack Horseman, which is divorced from porn entirly; furry porn and deep story dont mix.

Furrynomous 2025/08/26 09:42:03 No.2495598

>>2495594
That's the thing - the Sabrina Online comics are Eric's SFW, story oriented comics, but it's just light-hearted slice-of-life stuff. As people have pointed out, you can't have both a woman confronting the father who beat and raped her and Toy-Story transformers segments in the same comic.
And you can't even have a decent comic if you're stuck in the comic-strip mindset where every page needs to have a punchline, no matter how weak.

Furrynomous 2025/08/27 01:51:36 No.2495702

>>2495339
>>2495340
Anyone notice how significantly bored this guy is? He didn't bat an eye until Zig attempted to punch him through the shatter proof glass.

Furrynomous 2025/08/27 02:47:58 No.2495718

>>2495340

So, depending on how her fist hit that glass. She's either got a sore hand. Or busted knuckles, a possible fracture/break in the long bones of the hand, and messed up her wrist. If that is the case, good job, ZIg. Sure showed him. Now, off to the hospital for your resulting splint and cast.

SomeoneElse 2025/08/27 22:43:11 No.2495965

>>2495718
From the angle I would say kin to pounding a fist on the desk, only against the plexi.

Furrynomous 2025/08/30 12:12:55 No.2496532

It's not so much a desire to be "taken seriously" as much as it's a desire to "go mainstream".

It's been pointed out a few times that EWS' dream job was to be a professional animator, mainly for WB (ouch). That's why his art resembles the cartoons of the 90s. He's admitted this a few times in the past.

So, he throws everything at the wall, hoping the strip will get picked up for newspaper syndication or a prime-time series.

That's why the comic is such a mishmash of tones and styles. EWS is more an emulator that a writer with his own unique style.

Sometimes it's a Looney Tunes short. Then it tries to be "Dilbert" or "Doonesbury". Then it wants to be an episode from TGIF or Disney Channel. Then it's a scene from "Boogie Nights". Then it tries to copy the satire and references-style humor of Simpsons and Family Guy. Then he tries to copy the "Navel Gaze with wit and profanity" of Kevin Smith. Then it wants to be like "Omaha the Cat Dancer". Now EWS is trying to copy the cynical "Generational Trauma" of Rick and Morty and Bojack Horseman.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 14:51:32 No.2497270

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>>2495340
>Ruined or not?

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 18:03:43 No.2497358

>>2497270
I try not to give EWS too much shit for his writing but this is just weird. I'm not sure if this is going to end with her not thanking him but at least appreciating the strife that made her who she is, but I don't think we need her rapist father to be the one to bestow that lesson.

I say all this as someone who commissions lewds of Danille and Tabitha, even I think this story has went off the rails.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 18:21:46 No.2497370

>>2497360
it was to drive the point that even this is weird for me.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 18:35:51 No.2497375

Wow. A Joker Speech in "Sabrina Online".

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 19:41:57 No.2497404

>>2497375
Joker speech? This is classic gaslighting tactics as well as just him being a bit pissy over his shitty life choices, self-pity at his own actions.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 20:08:20 No.2497412

It's also a standard comic book trope where the villain says something like "You're no better than me!" or "You wouldn't exist without me!"

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 21:47:25 No.2497438

Eric drew a comic with a woman being gangraped, and that still pales in comparison to him writing a fucking child rapist defending the rape of his own daughter with "well, it made you a better person". What the actual fuck. Even Naylor had the decency to let a young Fisk swing a bat at the guy who was trying to rape his mom and say "yeah, dude sucked, and rearranging his face with Li'l Slugger felt good" to a psychiatrist, and analyzing the list of fucked-up things he's written would probably take more space than this entire thread.

When JAY FUCKING NAYLOR is a better writer than you, fucking pack it in.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 22:26:53 No.2497442

We get it.
He's a remorseless jackass.

But JEEZ, could EWS have at least TRIED to have Zig give a comeback to ANY of this?!

You'd think he have his Mary Sue Waifu able to make better arguments and not just sit there and take this.

Furrynomous 2025/09/02 23:19:56 No.2497444

>>2497442
Yeah, that's what burns the most here: Zig Zag went to see her dad for some kind of closure or whatever, and all that's happened is he's gotten the rhetorical upper hand on her on nearly every page. I'd like to think Eric would identify more with Zig Zag than her rapist, but given who's "winning" the war of words between the two, I'm inclined to think Eric is justifying child rape, intentionally or otherwise, as a "character-building exercise".

Like I said: When Jay Naylor writes both the victim and the perpetrator of a sexual assault in a better way, you're kind of cooked as a writer. Even the dude who tried to rape Fisk's mom got got by friends of Fisk's dead dad, and the worst that'll probably happen to Zig Zag's dad is ZZ will get a weak-ass mic drop moment before leaving.

If the next page of this comic isn't Zig Zag telling off her dad with no interruptions and no lame-ass "joke" at the end, that's how you know Eric Schwartz is more fucked up than Jay "my old fursona is a sister-fucking American terrorist" Naylor.

Furrynomous 2025/09/03 04:31:29 No.2497473

>>2497444

Schwartz has written himself into a corner. He now has two options:

-- Take the strip to a new level of emotional honesty.

-- Back off and run away.

A good cartoonist would take the risk of breaking the format of the strip-so-far, and write an arc of sincerely-felt, gag-free drama. A bad cartoonist would never have the guts.

Furrynomous 2025/09/06 22:28:31 No.2498137

>>2497270
I've seriously lost so much interest in this story that I didn't even know this was her dad in the flesh.

This comic isn't terrible. It's just almost boring. The one interesting story to explore Zig's abusive past and it's weightless. It's like a newspaper strip trying to be a young adult graphic novel.

Furrynomous 2025/09/08 17:01:49 No.2498517

Meh. Most likely will happen is Zig Zag talking about how she came here for closure, tell off her dad, and say “don’t drop the soap” before walking away.

Furrynomous 2025/09/08 18:18:39 No.2498525

>>2498517
"Don't worry." A huge figure looms behind Sabrina's creepy dad. Meaty fingers curl around his hip possessively. "I catch it for him."

Furrynomous 2025/09/08 18:56:36 No.2498531

>>2498525
"So, you're ZigZag's dad, huh? I love her anal scenes... let's see if the apple falls far from the tree..."

Furrynomous 2025/09/10 08:52:34 No.2498784

On a lighter side note, I had a dream/premonition about a future plot for this comic, following earlier events.

Basically, it was Endora sitting at the kitchen table with Sabrina and telling her some surprising news that could, once again, change her life.

Endora tells Sabrina in broken sentences that she'd gone to see the doctor, and when Sabrina asks her how serious it is, Endora tells her the doctor gave her 8-9 months.

Sabrina is shocked, and tells her mother that she's sorry for the way she treated her and will do the best to make her last days has happy, memorable and love-filled as possible...

...only for Endora to bring her down to Earth, just as Tabitha comes into the room (from under the frame), by bluntly pointing out that she's NOT dying but PREGNANT.

How does that grab anyone? Or was that too much like "Tina's Story"?

Furrynomous 2025/09/10 12:03:23 No.2498798

Anyone remember that Tina subplot about the apartment problem?
>>2368586
>>2383567

She has so little relevance in this storyline that I had to go back to see what she has in stake at all again, and it's just something completely irrelevant in the current situation. You'd think this chapter being called "Stripes and Links" would be a double meaning.

Furrynomous 2025/09/10 12:13:12 No.2498799

>>2498784
At this point, Endora and Warren better start believing in the Earthly option called abortion.

Furrynomous 2025/09/10 16:45:31 No.2498827

>>2498784
>How does that grab anyone?
Like a limp noodle.

First off, the biggest problem I see with your setup is the whole "the doctor's giving me 8-9 months" thing - NO ONE phrases a pregnancy announcement like that. Writing such a thing in such a weird way, and doing so only to produce an artificial conflict/set up a awful punchline, would actually be WORSE than Eric's writing.

Then there's the fact that Endora MUST be past menopause by now, and while it's not unheard of, a woman in her 50s isn't likely to have a child, and Endora might be older than even that. And yes, I know - it's just a webcomic - but still, there's got to be a little grounding in reality, and Endora already had Tabitha when Sabrina was a full-grown adult, so Endora getting pregnant AGAIN wouldn't be a good storyline unless you wanted to make it about Endora's health and whether she can even handle having another baby at her age...which is not a storyline I would trust Eric to write with the kind of grace required to write such a storyline.

Basically, your biggest problem is you're trying to write a dramatic storyline for a slice-of-life comic, and...well, you can see how well that's working out for the actual author of that comic in this thread.

Furrynomous 2025/09/11 11:41:07 No.2498919

Not to be mean, but yeah, I think "X is pregnant" has been played out way too often in this comic.

Furrynomous 2025/09/11 19:29:33 No.2498962

>>2498919
Zig Zag, and now she has to call up half the county to find the father... culminating in a special episode of Maury set in a stadium to seat all the possibles.

Furrynomous 2025/09/19 16:19:18 No.2501117

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With how this comic has turned out, from Zig's dad making quips about how her little sister wasn't big enough to molest, him apparently getting the one up on the conversation so far to justify his shit behavior, I'm reminded of an earlier strip.

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 16:29:53 No.2502743

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>>2497270
>Yep, ruined. Ruined forever.

Edited at 2025/09/23 16:32:11

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 16:34:25 No.2502744

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>Who knew lizards lead such lives?

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 17:00:52 No.2502758

>>2502743
You know, if Eric wanted to write a therapy session he should've done one with the actual therapist instead of having Zig meekly whine to her dad over her "inability" to act like a function person in society because of her dad.

>>2502744
This is a deep conversation.

Edited at 2025/09/23 17:02:37

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 17:11:56 No.2502759

>>2501117
Wow, the irony

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 17:14:45 No.2502760

Oh, for God's sake!
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS GUY RELATABLE!!!

"It's not MY fault! My daughter was hot, and I was horny. Who wouldn't do what I did in my position?"

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 17:26:41 No.2502761

>>2501117
I guess Eric forgot about this lesson.

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 21:38:08 No.2502803

Eric Schwartz is now a worse writer than Jay Naylor. I mean, 90% of Naylor's characters are unrepentant assholes and he lets his politics and beliefs about women bleed onto every page of his work, but at least he isn't trying to make an out-and-out sex offender relatable. Even the guy who tried to rape Fisk's mom was written as a creep who got domed by Fisk and "euthanized" by friends of Fisk's dad.

I'm kind of amazed that Eric's still trying to keep this digression going because it only makes Zig Zag look bad and his writing look worse. What the actual fuck.

Furrynomous 2025/09/23 23:09:49 No.2502816

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>Do you think I ever considered I might be where I am as a result of the things you did when I was young?
>but…something in me keeps trying to take things too far, and I either drive them away or add another name to my list of conquests.
Seriously!?

Edited at 2025/09/23 23:14:47

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 01:29:55 No.2502887

Gotta love how this alcoholic trailer trash is able to go all Hannibal Lecter on Zig Zag, but her actual therapist could barely scratch the surface before hopping between her thighs.

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 02:26:06 No.2502898

>>2502816
Out of context, good short speech. In context, disproportionate anger and absolute hypocrisy from one of the most irresponsible and self-pitying characters in the show.

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 04:03:55 No.2502906

>>2502898
Yeah. Todd's blowup is a fitting response to Bojack's patterns of destructive behavior and bad-friending, but the event that triggers Todd's blowup? It's that Bojack had consensual sex with Todd's platonic adult friend Emily. Oh noooo...

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 09:11:05 No.2502942

>>2502744
Wonder if that means Zigzag has a lot of half-siblings out there...?

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 22:43:25 No.2503133

>>2502942
Oh my god you're right, this does kind of open that door.

>>2502759
>>2502761
Yeah it seems like such a stark contrast to every following page that comes out of this new comic.

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 22:58:19 No.2503147

>>2503133
>stark contrast
are you fucking using AI to write your comments, what the fuck

Furrynomous 2025/09/24 23:53:51 No.2503236

This might actually be worse than the "Revenge on Trolls" arc.

While that was a low point in the strip's run, it was relatively short.

This just keeps going on and on. The fact that Zig Zag can steam roll hundreds of random guys who sassed her on a message board but can't do jack shit against the guy who used to beat and molest her shows just how terrible a writer EWS is when it comes to genuine emotions and situations that haven't been done to death on an episode of Must See TV.

Furrynomous 2025/09/25 01:07:29 No.2503264

>>2503147
Cause I used stark? That seems a bit stupid. Comparing all the pages involving Zig's dad to the old 2008 strip is a pretty stark difference.

Furrynomous 2025/09/25 01:44:43 No.2503274

>>2503264
When you've read a bunch of AI writing, you tend to notice consistencies in how LLMs write - like overuse of the specific phrase "stark contrast". Part of that is because it's a phrase often in news stories, which LLMs were partially trained on. Even if you didn't use AI to write your comment, the use of that phrase is a red flag in that regard because I never see it in any context other than news reports and AI writing. I mean, you can use it all you want, but using it is bound to make people familiar with AI writing think you're using AI to write for you.

Furrynomous 2025/09/25 02:04:33 No.2503276

>>2503274
Actually when you explain it like that I do understand, I didn't realize it was so commonly farmed and used for AI writing, guess I just have a weird and maybe a bit of a robotic way of writing? Sorry for snapping at you like that, I was more taken back by it like the idea that "stark contrast" was too big or high and mighty of a word to use in day to day conversation.

Furrynomous 2025/09/25 02:58:38 No.2503281

>>2503276
I could've been less confrontational, so I apologize for my initial aggression. And "stark contrast" isn't an "uncommon" phrase, but as I said, I tend to see it in news reports and AI writing more often than any other kind of writing. Seeing it outside of those contexts raises a red flag for me. It's less about it being a "high and mighty" phrase and more about it being a phrase that people don't really use in everyday conversation/writing.

Furrynomous 2025/09/25 04:24:35 No.2503302

>>2503281
No I get it and appreciate the insight on it. Definitely something I have to consider with how wooden and outdated some of my writing can come off. Glad cooler heads prevail :)

Furrynomous 2025/09/26 06:29:35 No.2503665

>>2502744
I don't really see this as relatable. It has just been several pages dealing with a self-pitying deadbeat who has no regrets over the fact he ruined his own life. As in the only thing he regrets is the fact he's in prison and has nothing to his name. All he's done is envy his daughter's success and is trying to gaslight her into thinking his abuse benefitted her in someway to become a famous porn star.

I would commend Eric if it weren't all treated as a bad comedy skit.

Furrynomous 2025/09/26 06:34:26 No.2503666

>>2489602
I want to go back to this. It's way better than the circus act we're dealing with.

Furrynomous 2025/09/26 07:00:34 No.2503670

>>2489602
>>2503666
...Seconded.

Furrynomous 2025/09/27 04:57:12 No.2503831

>>2503666
Still feels creepy seeing Tabitha in the studio.

Furrynomous 2025/09/27 07:32:05 No.2503905

>>2503831
More creepy than seeing Eric trying to put a positive spin on Zig's dad beating and raping his own daughter?

Furrynomous 2025/09/27 12:03:45 No.2503938

Not gonna lie.

Yeah. It IS creepy how EWS keeps doing this thing where a pre-teen girl wants to join a porn studio at the same time sorta-kinda defending a sexually abusive father.

Man should probably see a shrink himself.

Furrynomous 2025/09/28 00:55:55 No.2504008

>>2503938
>>2503831
As weird as it is at least Tabitha's getting old enough to kind of make sense of what she's surrounded by? In a taking it too serious moment it's still probably not good for a preteens development but I think it's at least a bit better than when she was younger and completely oblivious to everything around her.

I mean she did "make art" with Zig-Zag in that tasteful photoshoot, it was a trying to make the best of a situation but still was a little kid unaware that she was having photos taken in a porn studio.

Though with this page I'd like to imagine Sheila being too ditzy to get it's a joke and proceed to explain in vivid detail what she wants to do before Sabrina comes rushing in to stop her.

Furrynomous 2025/09/28 04:40:51 No.2504098

>>2504008
If she can't make sense and is oblivious to it, it's probably got little to no impact on her innocence. And the old B&W arc had a more comical vibe, and the absurd question of "how do you child-proof a porn studio?" was a good comedic premise.
But this comic is more slice of life (and failed attempts of drama) now and having a child who is aware of (and curious about) sex in a porn studio... in the same chapter that is implying Zig owns her success to being abused as a child...
Yeah, Eric is raising serious red flags with this one...

Furrynomous 2025/09/28 08:33:54 No.2504133

>>2489602
>>2503938
>>2504008
>>2504098

Mind you, it would be no weirder slice-of-life tale if a preteen was to discover their recently deceased mother WAS a mega porn star who ran her own studio and said kid is now the inherited OWNER of business...

...I mean, you wouldn't know where to turn in general, let alone at something like Show-&-Tell...(!)

Furrynomous 2025/09/29 20:46:27 No.2504477

>>2504133
Classic "save the family business" plotline with a comedic twist. It'd work better with three siblings. That way, they could bounce child logic off each other and build it into wacky schemes. Whereas if it's just one kid running the business, they'd only be interacting with adults, so it's harder to build the zany energy and have kid antics bulldoze the adults.

Furrynomous 2025/09/30 02:23:18 No.2504517

Wasn’t that the plot to “House of LSD”?

Furrynomous 2025/10/10 02:25:27 No.2507113

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>>2502744
>Don't play the blame game. Play Ms. Pac-Man instead.

Edited at 2025/10/10 02:26:48

Furrynomous 2025/10/10 03:14:21 No.2507128

It’s funny because in the original run, Zig Zag made the same argument about herself. That she chose her lifestyle and doesn’t want anyone blaming her messed up childhood on her choices.

Furrynomous 2025/10/10 16:40:48 No.2507230

I can't believe EWS is trying to turn a child-raping, wife-beating drunkard into a sympathetic father figure by way of "you know, I learned something today" moralizing. His shitty-90s-sitcom writing has no business being near a situation like "a child abuse survivor is confronting her molester so the survivor can get some kind of closure". JFC, this really better end with ZZ being allowed a chance to fuck up her father physically or the entire Sabrina Online comic going back to ZZ's introduction should be purged from the fucking timeline.

Furrynomous 2025/10/11 05:17:21 No.2507341

>>2507113
Nice lesson, but it really could've been said by anyone else. Her dad doesn't even seem to regret the part about what he's done to his family. More like he hates his life, but is aware enough that blaming others has only gotten him in prison time and time again.

And yes the sit-com humor isn't appropriate, but at this point that's always going to be a regular.

Edited at 2025/10/13 03:16:06

Furrynomous 2025/10/11 16:56:51 No.2507447

>>2507341
>Her dad doesn't even seem to regret the part about what he's done to his family.
THERE. That's what makes this whole little side arc particularly disgusting.

If he was more remorseful about his abusive behavior and honest about how he was responsible for the decisions (including the decision to drink) that led to the abuse, MAYBE this would work as a reconciliation/"I learned something today" moment. Instead, Zig Zag is being lectured by a CHILD MOLESTER who is being framed as having AN ACTUAL POINT about her, the abuse she endured, and how it affected her. He might be right about her, but he isn't the person who should be telling her that - and the writing shouldn't be trying to make him sympathetic in any way.

This whole storyline better end with a page where Zig's dad finds out what happens to child molesters in prison. It's the only fucking way to redeem this shitty writing. That, and it'd be a better ending than whatever Eric has planned to sorta-kinda-maybe wrap up three distinct plotlines (Zig Zag's feelings about kissing Endora, Endora's feelings about being kissed, and Tina needing a new place to live), at least two of which have gotten lost in the shuffle of "I need to have Zig Zag's rapist father psychoanalyze her instead of having her find a way to beat the shit out of him".

Furrynomous 2025/10/18 21:05:33 No.2509749

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>>2507113
>"a lot of 'D' stuff"

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 00:50:53 No.2509872

>>2509749
>"Reconnect with mom?"
.........seriously!?

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 00:52:06 No.2509873

>>2509749
>"Reconnect with mom?"
.........seriously!?

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 01:14:29 No.2509883

Zig suddenly looks like she aged 10 years in a couple of the panels

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 15:45:28 No.2510202

NOW he sounds regretful/remorseful?!

Beating and molesting his daughter, not a big deal. But screwing up his wife's life? THAT'S what he's mad at himself for?!

Fuck this storyline...

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 17:59:00 No.2510276

>>2510202
I mean, yeah. The guy made it clear he couldn't give less of a shit about someone in his family who managed to become moderately rich and famous possibly because of how he treated them. Again. He only really seems to care about himself and how shite he is at controlling his anger and drinking habits. Maybe if we're lucky the next time we see him he'll be in-an-out several anger management sessions and court-mandated therapy visits despite being a repeat offender and register child molester and actually take what he's taught in any of them to heart compared to Zig Zag screwing it up.

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 20:15:29 No.2510361

>>2510202
>>2510276
It kinda makes sense. Some guys are better ex-husbands than they ever were husbands. The reason he can't really be bothered to care what happened to ZZ is because he knows he can't undo his past, and at least ZZ became successful in spite of him. So he doesn't even need to worry about her. And he also knows ZZ will take care of her siblings without him. So he doesn't need to worry about them either. But ZZ went no contact with her mother for a long time. So it makes sense he'd be worried about her, because she was the one left alone after the kids were taken away. He knows he can't save himself. So he probably feels like his ex-wife is the last bit of good he has. Even if he never sees her again. That said, I highly doubt he's on the offender registry, because he was never arrested for what he did to ZZ when she was a kid. He was arrested for other things after ZZ left. And he never laid a finger on his other kids.

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 21:43:39 No.2510393

>>2510361
>The reason he can't really be bothered to care what happened to ZZ is because he knows he can't undo his past, and at least ZZ became successful in spite of him.
Yes. And? Doesn't change the fact that EWS has been writing him as a remorseless CHILD MOLESTER who MOLESTED HIS UNDERAGE DAUGHTER and thinks everything is okay because said daughter turned out fine. He hasn't really apologized to ZZ or shown any hint of actual remorse for what he put her through. Nothing about what he's said to ZZ makes him sympathetic when you think beyond the surface, but EWS wants us to have at least some level of sympathy for a man who raped his own underage daughter and JOKED ABOUT IT TO HER FACE.

And I understand that EWS's writing has gone to some weird fucking places after he ended Sabrina Online. The Jane Cottontail comics started with her getting gangraped. Same for the Batgirl parody series. But writing a remorseless child rapist as a sympathetic figure - or making the attempt, at any rate - is a level of fucked up beyond anything he's ever posted before. Shit, I would've accepted this better if her father had been a serial killer instead of a child molester. At least the dark humor of a character like John "Jigsaw" Kramer is more understandable than someone trying to make light of raping children.

Furrynomous 2025/10/19 22:10:15 No.2510408

>>2510393
Calm down man. I understand your anger. And believe me, I feel no sympathy for ZZ's father either. He is remorseless about what he did to her. But what can you expect. He knows that having remorse won't change anything. He did what he did, and has to live with it. No amount of apologies would ever make it better, or even offer closure. Nor would it save his soul. And he knows that. So instead he's just being what he already knows he is. If anything, he may have a worse time after prison. No home, no family will take him in, and a rap sheet decades long. He's most lucky ZZ didn't dox him. Because if she came out and publicly said the things her father did to her, someone would track him down. But she doesn't do that, because it would mean sinking to his level.

Furrynomous 2025/10/20 00:32:12 No.2510543

>>2510408
>He is remorseless about what he did to her. But what can you expect. He knows that having remorse won't change anything. He did what he did, and has to live with it. No amount of apologies would ever make it better, or even offer closure.
I get that, but it's still shitty writing to make him that remorseless and STILL have ZZ sit there and take everything he throws at her like SHE is the worse of the two. Like you (and her father) pointed out, she survived being raped and still managed to eke out a successful (and slightly fucked up) life for herself. But metaphorically, she's been taking hit after hit after hit from her father in this conversation - as if Eric wants to make him a "voice of reason" or some path for ZZ to get some kind of emotional closure. It's fucking baffling that he's gone this far to make her child-raping wife-beating shithead of a father seem almost LIKEABLE if you forget about the domestic abuse and child rape.

And as far as apologizing not meaning much: So what? Even if it can't erase the past, it can heal in the present. The whole point of apologies is to show remorse and repentance for how you wronged someone in the past so you can, in some way, help repair the someone you wronged. Being this remorseless about RAPING A CHILD shows that if he had the chance, he'd probably do it again - and that's not the kind of person that EWS (or any other writer) should trying to be painting as sympathetic in any way. Like I've said before, even Naylor had the decency to kill off the guy who tried to rape Fisk's mom in "Better Days". EWS probably won't even give ZZ the satisfaction of telling her dad off for good. When someone's writing is so bad that Jay fucking Naylor can be considered a better writer, that should be a warning sign for that someone to wrap up their bullshit and move on to something else. Which, yes, is exactly what EWS should be doing.

Furrynomous 2025/10/20 01:40:23 No.2510554

>>2510543
Yeah, the father is a narc. But He didn't go to ZZ. She came to him. If you went to talk to someone like him in prison, how do you think he'd reply? With tears? Not really. They're gonna deflect, then act like you are who you are because of them. Then they're gonna either get mad, or just act casual about it because there's a wall of unbreakable glass between you. As messed up as it is, this is a more realistic situation than you think.

You're getting a little too graphic man. But he did have the chance. He had another daughter in the house, and he never tried to do to her what he did to ZZ. Even he mentally grasped how fucked up it was after ZZ left. And he could have gone after anyone else during the periods he was not in prison, and didn't. But when you do what he's done, apologies aren't enough. They'll never be enough. If he just looked at illegal stuff online, or snuck a camera into a bathroom, then sure, he could apologize for that. But what he did, there's no real apologizing for. All he can really do is explain why he did it. The problem with people who go bad on that level is that once they realize they've crossed the line too far, they often just stop caring. Basically thinking "Well I'm damned anyway. So why bother to change.". That's what kind of person ZZ's father is. Yes, some part of him still cares about his family. Cares enough to know to stay away unless something were to happen to his ex or children. He knows exactly what he is, and even the idea of him possibly coming back for any reason would probably incite the family to make sure he never has that reason. In his own fucked up way, he's saying to forget about him and go live their lives better than he had. But ZZ isn't the one walking away yet, even though she already should have.

Furrynomous 2025/10/20 04:07:50 No.2510590

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>>2509749
>Some things you just don't wanna hear.

Edited at 2025/10/20 04:09:15

Furrynomous 2025/10/22 19:40:16 No.2511750

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Furrynomous 2025/10/23 20:21:38 No.2512143

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>>2512112

I agree. He had a lively style, one perhaps inappropriate for this current storyline. (Or is the current storyline unsuited to his real abilities?)

Furrynomous 2025/10/24 03:03:37 No.2512201

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Furrynomous 2025/10/24 06:39:39 No.2512241

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Furrynomous 2025/10/24 15:57:19 No.2512302

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>>2512241
You reminded me that EWS characters look so much better when not drawn by EWS

Furrynomous 2025/10/24 16:22:18 No.2512306

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>>2512302

>>2512302

Generic, artificial, and bland.

For all of his limitations as a writer, Schwartz has (or had) a hand-drawn aesthetic much more lively in its linework, gestures, and postures, than the stuff drawn by his imitators.

You might call this old-fashioned cartooning, but it retains the old-fashioned virtue of individuality.

Furrynomous 2025/10/25 03:49:57 No.2512454

Thanks to EWS's crappy writing any future fan works of Zig-Zag molesting Tabitha can be hand waved off with her thinking it'll make her a stronger more independent individual. It seems to have worked out well for her if her loser dad's reasoning is anything to go by.

Furrynomous 2025/10/25 05:03:18 No.2512459

>>2512454
On one hand I wanna say that's absurd, but a year ago I would have said the same if someone told me Eric would have Zig confront her father and do end-of-the-page jokes about what he did to her. He literally did a strip about how no one in their right mind would do that and now...
When Eric first had Tabitha visit the studio, I saw nothing wrong because I knew there were lines he wouldn't cross. Now...

Furrynomous 2025/10/25 14:05:48 No.2512523

Future tabitha porn comic? Hell yeah

Furrynomous 2025/10/25 14:38:47 No.2512533

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Furrynomous 2025/10/25 15:11:18 No.2512538

>>2512533
Geez. How many kid touchers are there in this comic?

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 01:29:57 No.2512661

>>2512538
Really only Zig's dad, and even then EWS made sure to point out that he only went after Zig when she hit her "growth spurt" and conveniently never touched Brandy.

Zig-Zag did have some worries about getting too close to Tabitha and not realizing she had to put some kid barriers up to protect Tabitha from seeing more than she should at a young age. She did do that sfw but risque photoshoot with Tabitha, but most of her worries about that was her willingness to want to put it online without thinking of who might actually want to see a porn star and little skunk girl together.

Tabitha in that future comic has to only be 4-5 years older than Timmy if I had to guess, and as weird as it is with this comic page. I could see them kindling something when he's actually old enough and not being preyed upon. But also I do like a head cannon idea of Tabitha's niece Danielle having a crush on a slightly older Timmy when she's a tween.

>>2512459
Obviously being a bit dramatic but yeah this story feels like it crossed a weird line for me. Like he didn't need to give Zig's dad so much screen time let alone the final word or the one up so many times. Now instead of future Zig saying she looks at intern Tabitha like a little sister, I could see her thinking she has a great opportunity to be a start a career getting gangbanged.

. Chatin # MOD # 2025/10/26 07:25:33 No.2512733

Some of you guys need to chill the fuck out. jfc

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 08:51:10 No.2512750

>>2512661
Ultimately, Eric fucked up because he didn't pick a lane.
Zig's mother painted a man who was initially a really good father and husband but who became violent and abusive when he slipped into alcoholism. Which is real - some people who normally aren't aggressive get unreasonably so when drunk. But you can't really be that much of a drunk in prison and Warren does seem sober, so without alcohol as a trigger he would have shown some remorse.
But in prison he acts completely remorseless and devoid of guilt. This is also a real thing and is the mark of a true sociopath - people who only recognize pain as bad if if it is inflicted on them. That kind of person could never have kept up a loving husband and father act for over a decade.

A person can't be both, he had to pick a redemption/remorse arc or a true villain/monster arc.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 09:08:27 No.2512751

>>2512750
It really makes you question why Brandy comes and visits him at all even though she's been told her father was an awful person. Young or not, no one in that family should even be that trustworthy with someone so dangerous his wife has to install locks to avoid him visiting her at all.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 10:07:07 No.2512755

>>2512751
Yeah, that's the weirdest choice. Wives of abusive men tend to have an unfortunate tendency to return to them, but ZigZag's mom took out a restraining order so she's not the type.
And Brandy lived in a house where she saw her dad first kick the shit out of her sister, then move on to raping her. When ZigZag ran away, I imagine she would have been scared of being the next in line.
The only likely bit of sympathy Warren could have gotten would be his son. And if he'd been buying his dad's excuses, it would have explained why he's antagonistic towards Zig (he could have convinced his son that ZigZag had always been a slut, that she broke up the family etc.).

But everything in this arc feels like someone's been picking tropes out of a hat...

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 10:31:00 No.2512762

Warren is Sabrina’s dad.
Did EWS get lazy and give this guy the same name for more Freudian BS?

Cornchowder 2025/10/26 12:11:42 No.2512766

>>2512661
Tabitha was 2 or 3 when Timmy was born. That future version of her was 18. And future Sabrina said future Timmy was "Like 16". So it seems to be a roughly two to three year age gap. And not to get all Freudian, but I think Tabitha's attraction to Timmy might be a sort of reason someone might be sexually attracted to a biological, adopted or step relative. Someone a long time ago here pointed out incest is so tempting for some because they feel like there's less fear of rejection. Like it mentally feels safer for them because it's someone they've known for so long, and it's like unconditional love, but with sex, despite it being wrong. In Tabitha's case, she grew up with Timmy like a close but not biologically related cousin. And Timmy has always been a bit of a strong silent type. Which some wmen might find attractive. Especially since Tabitha is a chatterbox that always walked all over him. She sees Timmy as so attractive because she's already so close to him from knowing him literally his entire life, and could likely seduce him with ease once the time comes. For all we could know, she might be his date to senior prom. And I could see a future arc where she gets jealous of other girls hanging around Timmy. And frankly, I'd welcome a time skip in the comic that goes to when Tabitha is an adult working at ZZ studios and navigating adulthood like Sabrina was when this webcomic started in 1996. It'd be a nice change to get past this current arc.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 12:22:11 No.2512767

>>2512762
Sorry, that's my bad. Somehow got confused and didn't realize that Eric still seems to be keeping ZigDad nameless other than his inmate number.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 13:01:51 No.2512772

No worries.
With how EWS has portrayed Zig Zag's parents in this arc as basically a messed-up version of Sabrina's family, it wouldn't surprise me if he did something like that.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 17:38:12 No.2512805

>>2512766
I always thought she was closer to 4 or 5 when Timmy was born, but you're probably right around 3 with how much baby talking she used to do.

Despite how much she's leering at a 16 year old Timmy in the future comic I agree, I honestly wouldn't see too much wrong with it. they grew up side by side, I wouldn't be surprised if they napped together, even though it's not shown in every strip I feel like that could have easily had that kid next door kind of crush, relationship. Certainly Timmy couldn't keep her away from him when he was much smaller.

I think the comic could have used a bit more cute one offs with those two, like a real traditional comic strip. If Eric wanted to he might be able to do something similar with Danielle and Timmy, but she hasn't exactly shown the same kind of crazy ball of energy her aunt did, and Timmy hasn't had anything too exciting happening character wise since was crawling around and hunting roaches or the transformer toys.

Furrynomous 2025/10/26 19:43:54 No.2512839

>>2512805
>Despite how much she's leering at a 16 year old Timmy in the future comic I agree, I honestly wouldn't see too much wrong with it.
People forget that the average age of consent in the western world is much closer to 16 then 18. 18 is the age limit for participating in porn, not sex.

Cornchowder 2025/10/26 23:49:03 No.2512880

>>2512805
At the start of the webcomic. Sabrina was 22. And Tabitha was born when Sabrina was 19 or 20, and was 2 when she first appeared. Amy got knocked up in the comic pretty fast. So Tabitha was three at most when Timmy was born.

One of the problems is, EWS kept Timmy looking like a toddler way too long in the comic, even though Tabitha clearly aged. I think EWS just didn't think of how to make Timmy start to grow up till a new baby was on the scene.

Furrynomous 2025/10/27 00:16:26 No.2512882

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Furrynomous 2025/10/27 01:51:23 No.2512901

>>2512880
Do you just have this comment copy & pasted anytime an anon talks about age differences in this comic?

Furrynomous 2025/10/27 06:13:13 No.2512919

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>>2512880
Yeah Timmy spent a good amount of time in toddler limbo. In the same story where Tabitha's got a few snappy lines and even remarking about how she's not sure she's old enough to be an aunt yet, Timmy's still stuck with single word responses.

In Meeting of Mom's he gets a bit more chatty and in Toy Stories Too he's downright polite and fully conversational. Thankfully much like the rest of the cast he's still adorable.

Hopefully in the future Eric gives the kids some time in the spotlight, might be fun and lighthearted compared to whatever the hell we've been subjected to for the last while here.

Furrynomous 2025/10/27 08:09:27 No.2512924

>>2512919
To be fair, it's not a unique problem. There's tons of series that either struggle to gradually age their characters up naturally or choose not to to avoid having to come up with new things to do with their characters as well as how to write them later down the line.

Let's not forget Eric didn't even have Tabitha be a preteen until the continuation came in when suddenly she becomes a snarky know-it-all obsessed with her tablet. Despite this, it took years for him to write one story focusing on Tabitha with this new character angle that wasn't just focused on her admiration over Zig Zag and it was the shortest since Baby Steps and Homecoming that only dragged a little due to just how lacking in ideas Eric tends to get when writing anything storyline these days. I doubt he'd have much idea what fun scenario he could put Timmy in when his current characterization is quiet and polite, the opposite of the kind of characters he writes in his story, unless he rips the bandaid off and shows the only two active kid characters what their lives are like outside the adult casts dull activites and ever present drama.

Cornchowder 2025/10/27 10:04:59 No.2512928

>>2512901
While it has been a correction I have made a lot of times in the past, it's far from the only one others have made in these threads. Someone even recently pointed out someone was calling ZZ's father by Sabrina's father's name. If you think I'm a broken record, see some of the other stuff that got posted not long ago. All I did was state some character ages.

Furrynomous 2025/10/28 17:46:13 No.2513305

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>>2510590
>What's in a name?

Furrynomous 2025/10/28 20:57:38 No.2513383

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Furrynomous 2025/10/29 00:08:11 No.2513402

>>2513305
This is the worst "girl confronting her rapist" plotline I have ever scene in my life. Why would someone write the rapist being able to make accurate points against his victim in a light-hearted fashion?

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 01:39:35 No.2513417

>the me that thrives not because of you, but in spite of you,

Z, your a slut that made a fortune out of putting out. If anything, you turned out exactly as what your perverted deadbeat dad saw you as when you filled out.

Edited at 2025/10/29 03:23:34

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 02:52:04 No.2513428

I guess now we gotta wait some more to see how this pans out.

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 05:41:31 No.2513453

>>2513417
Yikes. Careful, Skippy. With that much edge, you might summon the ghost of Tim Langdell.

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 06:50:23 No.2513468

>>2513453
<_<….>_>………who?

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 09:42:17 No.2513496

Feels a little too late for Zig Zag to become all Girl Boss in this conversation

Furrynomous 2025/10/29 14:48:20 No.2513542

>>2513468
Guess I'm showing my age. Google "Tim Langdell Edge lawsuits" and learn a bit of insane gaming history. It's a wild ride.

Furrynomous 2025/10/30 12:35:54 No.2513834

>>2513305

She's giving that vibe of, "don't call me Tanya, that's my dead name".

Like how I see Trans people do with their own names to start anew.

Furrynomous 2025/11/04 18:22:11 No.2515128

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>>2513305
>Unloading some baggage.

Furrynomous 2025/11/04 19:00:36 No.2515148

This is the most impersonal baggage unloading I've ever read in a slice-of-life comic. It's so insincere, vague, and a little too safe to write about a character coming to terms about their past influencing their present decisions. Not to mention this isn't something you just say to your abusive father who has no context on what the fuck you're on about. This is something she really should've been open about to her therapist.

No wonder this guy can't take her seriously.

Furrynomous 2025/11/04 19:07:59 No.2515153

>>2515128
Does this mean she's going to stop sexually harassing Sabrina? Because that shit was getting gross, especially when she got married.

Edited at 2025/11/04 19:11:23

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 00:24:04 No.2515364

Good lord, this arc is still going on?!

So, she FINALLY fires back at her dad and it's THIS? This is the kind of speech you make to a counselor or a therapist. NOT someone you've had a burning hatred stewing for decades.

Honestly, I'm starting to think this whole thing is EWS venting at his own parents or something and can't do it physically because they're probably dead/senile.

And yeah. I call bullshit. Zig Zag will go back to peeping/pawing at Sabrina, nagging her for at least a threesome, being inappropriate around Tabitha etc. because that's EWS' only jokes he can make with this character.

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 01:55:54 No.2515373

Of course he crossed his arms and has that look on his face. That's the classic "I don't like the way you're talking to me!" look. Ticks me off that this guy thinks he still has a right to act that way after what he's done.

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 03:07:26 No.2515389

Again, I have to wonder if Schwartz is trapped in a comic strip format that won't allow him to grow as a cartoonist, or if he *prefers* that format because it won't compel him to grow as a cartoonist.

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 03:44:44 No.2515390

>>2515364
*sigh* So much of an apology tour for her revenge tour. Eh, was stupid of me to hope for one anyway.

Edited at 2025/11/05 03:49:15

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 05:05:20 No.2515404

>>2515364
> Zig Zag will go back to peeping/pawing at Sabrina, nagging her for at least a threesome, being inappropriate around Tabitha etc. because that's EWS' only jokes he can make with this character.
Possible, but I'm betting this godawful mess is there to justify him cleaning up ZZ and presenting it as "character growth". Eric's version of ZigZag has always been just a Pepe le Pew knock-off, back from the days he dreamed of becoming an animator for WB. Fuck, even their species are the same. But Pepe hasn't aged well and Eric might be looking for a way to salvage ZigZag because he can't afford to ditch her.

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 05:21:01 No.2515406

People forget that in context, Pepe is TECHNICALLY the bad guy of his cartoons.

Most of his shorts show him getting injured or rejected for his behavior.

Chuck Jones even said Pepe is that guy at a bar who THINKS he's God's gift to women but just comes off as a sleazy jerk.

By contrast, Zig Zag is shown to be 100% right in her actions. She's just trying to loosen Sabrina and Endora up. She only beats up people who deserve it. People would just "misunderstand" her posing half-naked with a under-aged girl on a porn website.

Edited at 2025/11/05 12:43:49

Furrynomous 2025/11/05 20:12:06 No.2515613

>>2515406
Her reasons don't justify her actions. Pinning Sabrina to the wall and tongue-diving Endora, both w/o consent, isn’t “helping them loosen up”. It’s f#%$ing sexual assault. Misunderstanding or not, bring under-aged kids to a porn studio/website (even if the kid is related to someone in the staff, or has nothing to do with the studio) is f#%$ing illegal.
She may not be a bad guy, like Pepe, but she is a sleazy jerk like him.

Edited at 2025/11/05 20:17:42

Furrynomous 2025/11/06 02:10:32 No.2515723

Plot twist

Tabitha asks zig to let her join in a scene

Furrynomous 2025/11/06 08:54:54 No.2515770

>>2515613
>She may not be a bad guy, like Pepe, but she is a sleazy jerk like him.

The reason Pepe was likeable was because he was an antagonist, but like all Looney Tunes antagonists (Wiley Coyote, Elmer Fud etc.) he was incompetent and inefectual with every scheme blolwing up in their face (often literally).
You can have bad guys like that in a toony setting, but that's not what SO is. Eric could have grown her character when she went to therapy, but he just bailed on that and her her seduce her therapist who naturally just jumped into the sack with her and the status quo marched on until this godawful mess.

Furrynomous 2025/11/09 01:42:05 No.2516708

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>>2515723
I'd prefer if Zig went back to her old ways, brings her along to the trade show and surprises her with the single bed trick.

I don't think Tabitha would be able to knock her on her ass quite like Sabrina can though.

Furrynomous 2025/11/09 02:31:48 No.2516717

Is it just me, or does this whole arc with ZZ and her dad feel like Eric is trying to minimize or mock, among other things, the trauma caused by child rape and the idea of rebuilding one's identity to help get over that trauma? Like, I get that the whole "I chose Zig Zag to take back an insult" thing is mocking trans people/"wokeness", but it still feels like ZZ should be a lot angrier than she seems because of being raped and all.

Cornchowder 2025/11/09 03:18:19 No.2516722

>>2516717
I think you're reading too hard into it man. I don't think EWS is mocking anyone's pain with this. It's more like a personal hurdle ZZ just needs to cross, while also being used as comic filler for a few months. Hopefully after giving a face to ZZ's father and unloading the baggage, the comic and viewers will just move on.

Furrynomous 2025/11/09 12:42:38 No.2516802

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>>2515153

Furrynomous 2025/11/09 17:24:39 No.2517013

>>2516802
Ironically, this pic was drawn way before she was married. Guess Eric loved this joke enough to make it canon.

Furrynomous 2025/11/09 17:53:19 No.2517016

>>2516722
>I don't think EWS is mocking anyone's pain with this.
I'd like to think otherwise, but the way he's been trying to make a literal child rapist seem at least somewhat likeable AND smarter/wittier than his victim (who also happens to be the artist's favorite character that isn't Sabrina herself) makes me think he has no idea how to write this sort of thing without having more sympathy for the rapist than the survivor. His comics turning to rape - and trying to paint those instances of rape as "somewhat humorous" instead of "horrifying" - as part of their sexual content doesn't help him here, either. Seriously: Jane Cottontail was groped and gangbanged against her will in her first comic and a good chunk of that had jokes about her facial expressions while she was being sexually assaulted. That's fucked up, and so is this mini-arc.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 03:59:08 No.2517183

>>2516802
She should have a pair of toys buried deep in it at all times, let Sabrina know what she'd do if she had the chance.

Cornchowder 2025/11/10 07:15:52 No.2517305

>>2517016
Calm down man. No need to get heated again. EWS isn't trying to make ZZ's father likeable, he's trying to make him relatable, with ZZ anyway. Likeable and relatable are not the same things. I'm sure plenty of good people have things in common with plenty of bad people that they wish they didn't. It's not wrong that him and ZZ share some traits, and that's because of what he did to her. I'm by no means denying or downplaying the messed up stuff that guy has done to her. And the fact that he was never prosecuted for it, does hack me off. But if all you're going to do is rant and rage about what the guy is any time someone even mentions anything not negative or relatable about him or the situation, it's not gonna change anything here. And while that other comic did something rather nasty while trying to make it comedic, know that I didn't enjoy that comic at all. It's far from EWS's best work. But with Sabrina Online, all I feel seeing this scene is ZZ seeking some form of closure. Her old man is an obvious unrepentant narc who tried and failed to gaslight and play head games, and now he's upset they didn't work. But he still shows a very faint glimmer of a father in him, even though he will NEVER be deserving of it ever again. And this situation is ultimately about ZZ and the resolution she seeks to have after going there.

Anyway, I'd rather look forward to how things will be in the comic after ZZ leaves the prison, and we hopefully never see her old man again, unless he beats up the badger that assaulted Sabrina or something. I'd be ok with that.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 09:32:03 No.2517328

>>2517305
This isn't character complexity, this is disastrously bad writing or - since we're talking about Eric- bad copy-pasting.
He took two sources - a decent father sinking into depression and adicton which drove him to violence. The second source is some sort of interview with a serial rapist/killer, a person who is completely devoid of guilt or sympathy. Those are drastically different mindsets but for this character he's trying to just mix-and-match lines, bungling it further by shoe-horning his rather weak jokes where they can't fit.
A true remorseless socipoath would have never been a loving husband and father, those people are fundamentally inhuman.
So let's go with the more relatable version of a good dad fallen on hard times and making awfull mistakes because addiction *is* a downward spiral and that tracks. He's sobered up in prison and years later, out of the blue, his daughter and victim shows up to face him. This would have been a *staggering* event, an emotional bombshell, but he doesnt emote. Because this part is a rip off with the "interview with a sociopath" trope and they as a rule don't emote in situations like this.

And with his recent works like Jane Cottontail and Chiropterana, this is a major red flag. I don't think Eric's going to get this out of his system and move on, I think things are going to get worse...

Cornchowder 2025/11/10 11:40:50 No.2517336

>>2517328
Did I ever say it was good writing? I most certainly did not. Secondly, I would not call this a copy-paste. And to be frank, how can anyone write a scene like this now and somehow be wholly original with it? Considering how much it's been done in media for like the last century. Also, the father is not a killer. I don't know why you used that as part of an example. Stop taking your rage replies to 11. Next. people can become remorseless sociopaths with time. It's not always a born condition. And sometimes when it is, it can take decades to appear. For many, once they go too far down a dark road, they stop caring about redemption. So trying to make them feel guilt is pointless. ZZ's father doesn't care because he knows he's damned, and nothing will change that. I don't know why it's even a debate with you to continuously rant the same things over and over again. It's like you enjoy baiting people into saying something you don't like, just so you can make a long rant detailing your opinion. You've done that enough here already. And you're repeatedly taking about what kind of person the man is and what he's done isn't a win all argument. Otherwise this would have stopped long ago. You need to take a chill-pill and let this part of the comic play out.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 12:46:01 No.2517342

>>2517336
Uhhhh, I think you have me confused with someone?
Also, I didn't mean he's a killer, I meant it's that trope - a cop/journalist/therapist intervewing a serial killer or rapist in prison. A sociopath who calmly and candidly talks about what he's done, plays subtle mind-games, dark glimpse into a deranged human psyche, yadda-yadda-yadda...

Cornchowder 2025/11/10 13:15:44 No.2517345

>>2517342
Oh? So you're not the rage replier from before? Could have fooled me.

And yes, it's a trope. But not one that fit here because ZZ's father isn't that. He's a horrible person, but comparing him to something he isn't was poor terminology to use. ZZ's father isn't even serial anything. He beat his wife and sexually abused his eldest daughter. But he didn't go on to do those things other women or kids, or his other daughter wouldn't even want to be near him. I also wouldn't call ZZ's father deranged. Just remorseless. He didn't like being confronted by his past. From his behavior, I doubt he enjoys thinking about what he's done. He just doesn't care to regret it because he can't undo or make amends for it.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 13:23:27 No.2517347

>>2517336
>let this part of the comic play out
You keep saying this as an attempt to deflect criticism of the writing of this comic. But I never see you say that about any other comic on this board. Kadath's latest crime against art had shitty writing throughout, but I didn't see you stepping in to say "hey, let's just see where this goes, guys" to stop people from ripping into Kadath's shitty writing. What is it about this specific mini-arc - this extended scene of a child rapist being smarter and funnier than the survivor of that rape - that has you leaping to its defense and begging people to let it play out before criticising it?

Cornchowder 2025/11/10 13:50:15 No.2517350

>>2517347
No, I keep saying it because of ragers who keep ranting at the slightest thing they don't agree with. And that's because this board isn't about the other comic. If you want that discussion, take it to the other board. I've actually stepped in on Kadath posts a few times. Usually just to laugh at the stupidity. But I don't usually see anyone in the Kadath posts flipping about about people like ZZ's father. They mostly just rant about the relentless cuckolding Kadath keeps drawing. It's so predictable that no one really has to take the time to wait to see where it goes, because they typically already know with Kadath's work.

And now you're using words like Smarter and Funnier for ZZ's father, when I've literally never described him that way. Nor has I think anyone else here. I said that he tried nd failed at gaslighting and shows no remorse. You really twisted my words for that one. Again, take a chill pill man.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 14:02:02 No.2517352

>>2517350
Where are you seeing rage?
And "wait until it plays" out is seemingly reasonable, but we've gotta be about... 80-90% into this scene? That's enough for people to form some opinions and having formed them share them. I know Eric Schwartz, I've been reading SO for fifteen years or more. I know what he's capable of and I know he can't salvage this mess.

Cornchowder 2025/11/10 14:20:54 No.2517354

>>2517352
I see rage when someone seems to say anything about ZZ's father not hateful, and then someone rants about what the guy did to her over and over again like a broken record. The repetition gets tiresome. At least you didn't do it in caps like the other guy. And I've been reading this webcomic since about 2010, if not earlier. I found out about it by finding a paperback of the webcomic year of when Amy got married in a used book store. So I'm at the 15 or more year mark too. And EWS doesn't need to salvage this. All he needs to do is have ZZ walk away and not come back. I'd be angry if EWS tried to make the father a regular character after this, which frankly he shouldn't. But I'm fully willing to forget him once she walks out the door.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 16:16:59 No.2517378

>>2517354
There's the admission I've been waiting for: This is about nostalgia for you!

Look, I get being nostalgic for SO. I found it in the very early 2000s and followed it to the end in its original form. Wouldn't call it "great", but it was enjoyable for what it was. But the fact remains that Eric's never been good at writing "serious" stuff, and it's showing in this attempt to end every page of this mini-arc - an arc featuring a child rape survivor confronting her rapist - with a stupid joke, including one that tried to justify that rape. As was pointed out earlier, the original SO did a bit where Tina and Sabrina were discussing ZZ's past and the gag was a fourth wall-breaking "you didn't really expect us to make a joke about rape, did you" look at the viewer. Here, one of the "jokes" was "I raped you because you got tits early", and it's not played off as the horrific bullshit it should clearly be treated as.

Nostalgia is dangerous because it makes you put on rose-colored glasses and see red flags as just flags. The old SO was never like this. When ZZ tried to kiss Sabrina in the hotel room, ZZ got decked and the strip made sure to say "yeah, what she did was wrong and she deserved what she got". Here, one of the "jokes" is her rapist all but saying "you deserved what you got because boobs". You're so eager to defend an at-best incredibly flawed piece of writing that you're telling us we literally can't criticize it until it's over, then in the same breath, you're telling us we have your permission to rip into Kadath or anyone else with gleeful abandon as if we needed it, wanted it, or should've waited for it. Your willingness to defend the flaws of this writing and demand that we see where this goes while making no such demands of other artists and their writing - not Kadath, not Naylor, not Rick Griffin - is a sure sign of nostalgia fucking up your brain.

Let go of the past. Or at least take off the rose-colored glasses and look at all the red flags without letting your brain tell you they're not red flags. Nostalgia rots your thinking; don't let it rot yours just because you fap to Zig Zag.

Furrynomous 2025/11/10 16:30:35 No.2517379

>>2517378
>Sabrina were discussing ZZ's past and the gag was a fourth wall-breaking "you didn't really expect us to make a joke about rape, did you" look at the viewer.
Yeah, this is the really creepy part. Like what happened to Eric from between now and then to make him think *that* line was a good idea? Even if he thought he could somehow make a "let's hear the child-rapist's side of the story" work in favor for ZZ, what could have possessed him to think that joke was a good idea when at one point he knew that it was just in the worst possible taste?

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 00:48:45 No.2517473

>>2517378
I don't know how you got nostalgia from that. If I was speaking nostalgic, I'd be saying something like the webcomic should have stayed period instead of a floating timeline, or act gaga for Sabrina's retro tech or her and RC's mutual love of certain toys or figures, or even talk about the series as if it had ended, or missing the old black and white format. And I don't do any of that. The very definition of nostalgia is to be sentimental longing for the past, which in the case of this webcomic, I am frankly not doing. Just because I've read this webcomic for over 15 years doesn't make me nostalgic. It just makes me a fan waiting for the next installment. Much like how someone waits for the next episode of a TV show. But I don't really obsess over this comic, or EWS's work in general. Especially since I can and do draw my own comics. And you can't call it nostalgic just because I'd rather forget ZZ's father once she walks out of the prison. People like him you want to forget. And I doubt people would like him getting brought up over and over again once he's not appearing anymore.

Realistically, if I confronted someone like Sabrina's father in prison, them joking about what they'd done would not surprise me. That's not EWS trying to make a joke about it, that's him correctly portraying how someone like ZZ's father would act in the situation. Which is basically DARVO. Especially since the guy has almost nothing left to lose, and no remorse. And though it doesn't compare, I am no stranger to the pain of someone I cared for going crazy and doing very bad things. But I really don't want to get into that here.

You're twisting my words again, and badly. I fully admitted before that this was not good writing. Or did you somehow miss that. But bad writing aside, it's not inaccurate. And the fact that you think my words even implied that anyone needed my permission to say anything about Kadath is just idiocy. All I said was that I'd stepped in on Kadath threads in the past, usually to point out stupidity. I didn't say I was focusing on commenters. I was speaking of Kadath's work itself. Which has become incredibly predictable. These days Kadath has alienated most of his original fanbase. But it's also stupid that you're bringing other artists into this that have nothing to do with EWS.

Also, you keep trying to look for a 'gotcha' moment with me to act like I'm being the crazy one. You took the idea of nostalgia, and then acted like I have rose tinted glasses. I don't, and nothing I've said even implies that. You act like you're so desperate to win that you're focusing on any little key detail you can twist and then use against me. Which frankly is poor debate, and only makes you look bad. My whole beef with this is people like you who won't shut up about the same details about ZZ's father over and over again in this thread. You can't even be original and say anything new about it. It's just back to the man and what he did in the past, instead of focusing on what kind of POS he is now, and how ZZ is confronting him for her own peace of mind.

At least I'm not one of those people that say "Dude, it's just porn", which is frankly unoriginal, and not a win all argument. And I think we could agree on that. You don't read a comic like this for so long and not get invested in the characters or story. But I'm more focused on seeing what's around the corner, not what's in the past. So no, not nostalgia.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 02:53:53 No.2517520

>>2252179
The distinction of "I'm not nostalgic, I'm a fan" has little difference, at least from where I sit. You're still nostalgic for the SO of old and hoping it gets that good again. And you're defending it with "let's just see where this goes, guys!" when you don't do that with any other artist or any other comic. If you're not nostalgic for SO, you're doing a bad job of proving it by basically trying to shut down criticism of this shitpile of an arc.

I brought up other artists to make a point: This comic is the only comic on this board where, in the face of writing that even you admit is awful, you're saying "you're not allowed to criticize it because the arc isn't over yet" and implying that anyone who does is a shitty person. If you're willing to admit the writing is shitty, why should any of the rest of us be barred from saying so? You simping for Eric Schwartz as an artist, Sabrina Online as a comic, and/or Zig Zag as a character doesn't give you the right to shut down criticism that even you admit is valid.

And since you're on that "it's realistic" kick again, let me explain this to you one more time: The issue with the writing isn't that her father is an asshole willing to joke about raping his own child. The issue with the writing is that her father keeps managing to one-up her at every turn, psychologically dissect her like he's a professional therapist, and basically shut down any attempt at ZZ holding any sort of moral high ground on him! "You raped me!" "Yeah, well, you grew tits early and you're probably a lot like me, so who's the real monster, you dumb bitch." "I guess you're right." That's not any of the actual dialogue in this comic, but it sure as hell reads that way regardless. You concentrate so much on the "realistic psychology" argument that you're avoiding the "shitty characterization" argument and it's making your other arguments weaker by association.

Zig Zag confronting her father has gone from a "this is for my peace of mind" kind of confrontation to one where the story is saying "you know, maybe this child-raping asshole has a good point that our sexy and meant-to-be-beloved protagonist should consider" while trying to make him at least as sympathetic as the daughter he raped. Again, fuck all that "BUT IT'S REALISTIC" bullshit because it doesn't really matter when the story is trying to engender sympathy for a man who raped his then-underage daughter. If you can't agree with me when I say "trying to make people feel bad for a child rapist is incredibly fucked up even coming from a guy who wrote and illustrated a gang rape with the intent to provoke laughter", that's on you. And you don't get to demand that anyone here, least of all me, stop criticizing this comic and its primary focus just because a specific bit of criticism is pissing you off.

I'm focused on both the past and the future because the past informs the present and the future is descended from the present. The prior writing in this part of the comic hasn't lead me to believe right now that what's around the corner will be any better. And no, I'm not going to ask your for permission to say that or anything else I want about this comic in the future. So please, tell me again how I have to wait and see where this goes before I criticize this story. It hasn't worked out well for you in the past, and it certainly isn't working right now, but maybe the success in making me shut up that you've been desperately aching to have is right around the corner.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 03:27:13 No.2517523

>>2517520
Oh, it is very different. The literal definition of nostalgic is "A sentimental longing for the past". I'm not longing for the past of this webcomic. I'm waiting to see what's next. That's not nostalgia, and the term does not apply. From where you sit has no meaning or bearing on the actual definition of the word, or the way in which it's used. And no, I'm not nostalgic for the Sabrina Online of old. I'm just waiting for the next arc. I'm not expecting it to be like the older stuff. I want something new.

I'm not saying you're not allowed to criticize. I'm saying to stop being a broken record repeating the same things over and over again. We all hate ZZ's father for what he's done. But people ranting about it and what he's done over and over again won't make this arc end sooner. After the massive flamewar previously had on this thread about it, just about everything you could possibly say about the father's past and the monster he is now, has been played out, ranted about, countered, defended, accused, counterbalanced, and twisted. It's all been played out.

Is it really so surprising that someone who's spent the last 20 years in and out of prison that they'd know a thing or two about psychology. A bartender learns enough about it after a few years on the job. When you've seen enough, it's not hard to psychoanalyze someone. And ZZ isn't exactly a hard puzzle to solve. People who end up in prison have to deal with other prisoners and their behaviors. It's basically a walled off enclave of horrible people who only have each other most of the time. ZZ's father has also been alone since he got kicked out. Loneliness often gives one a new and unwanted perspective on life and the the lives of people around them. And when one gives up on emotions like regret, it leaves them open to learning something new to replace it. It's like quitting drugs, but taking up gambling to replace it. Replacing one habit with another, or one emotion with another. Hence why the father is a borderline master of DARVO. But he's a hollow person or it.

Even if the story acts like it's trying to give sympathy to the father, I've felt none for him the entire time. I've admitted he had a point on a couple things. But that's not in any way sympathy. Sympathy isn't what this comic feels like it's giving off. Just understanding and DARVO. To psychoanalyze someone is to understand them, no matter how good or bad they are. Sympathy has nothing to do with it.

Yes, forgetting the past means you're doomed to repeat it. But, that doesn't mean you long for the past. At least I don't in the case of this webcomic. But ok, if you want to constantly rant the same things over and over again, go ahead. But it takes two to tango. And I'm frankly tired of this dance. You twisted words, doubled down on the wrong terminology, falsely accused me of rose tinted glasses, and and are a broken record. If you have something more creative to say about the situation, I don't mind obliging. But this should end here for both our sakes.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to pull my dinner out of the oven.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 03:49:28 No.2517524

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Holy shit.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 04:04:25 No.2517530

>>2252179
"I'm not longing for the past of this webcomic. I'm waiting to see what's next." But you wouldn't be looking forward to what's next if you weren't nostalgic for what that property was in the past. I liked the MCU in its first three phases, but after Endgame, I didn't find myself interested in seeing any new MCU movies unless those movies were good on their own. (So far, only Thunderbolts has managed that.) I can enjoy what came before without being interested in everything that comes after, and while I still hold a little nostalgia for that era of the MCU, I'm not so blinded by it that I fail to see the shortcomings of that era or the "phases" that followed Endgame. Similarly, I've watched cartoons from my childhood that I loved back then and there's a great many of them that don't hold up. Being able to admit that is putting any fond, rose-tinted memories aside and being real about how my tastes have evolved. Keeping a foot in reality while you look back at the past is the only way to handle the brain poison that is nostalgia.

As for everything else? The psychology of ZZ's father being "realistic" doesn't mean a fucking thing. Nobody but you cares about that angle, and everybody but you is ignoring it in favor of criticizing how Eric's writing has constantly allowed ZZ's father to one-up her in the conversation. This whole confrontation is ostensibly about her finding some sense of closure for her own peace fo mind and the writing is doing everything it can to not only deny her the huge "fuck you" moment she deserves, but give her father - the man who raped her when she was a teenager - a bevy of "fuck you" moments, including one where he literally jokes about raping her because of her breasts. "Psychological realism" is fucking irrelevant because of the bad characterization and bad dialogue. I can't explain it any clearer than that, so if you still can't understand that, don't ask me for help in doing it because I've given you more than enough. And if you don't like people ragging on this point over and over again? Hide the thread and go keep up with the comic somewhere else. Bitching about other people bitching won't actually stop the bitching, my good bitch.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 04:34:14 No.2517532

>>2517530
You're doubling down again. It's not nostalgia man. I barely think of the past of this webcomic unless I need to. If it was nostalgia, I'd go back and re-read all the old chapters. And I've not done that in at least five years. Not even for my favorite webcomic Sequential Art. And I couldn't even be bothered to read more than half of the old Sabrina Online comics when I tried.

And what exactly am I to be nostalgic for? When Sabrina was still using her original Amiga PC? Amy's wedding? Endora's old attitude before she opened up, or how she used to be in the dark about ZZ Studios? The fact Sabrina can't find her old fur-print pants for sale anymore? Her and RC bickering about Linux VS Windows? Or their awkwardness when they first started dating? Zig Zag's repeated attempts at seduction? The April Fools pages? That Sabrina doesn't talk with Carli much anymore? ETC ETC. I really don't care. It's all moved on from that. I'm just waiting for new stuff as the characters grow older. So again, zero application of nostalgia. I have actual nostalgia for the Babe in The Woods webcomic, because I really liked that one, and it was canceled some years ago. But even in regards to Sabrina online, the old tech she likes isn't even stuff I like. She's nuts for Amiga computers, flip-phones, 8 bit video games, clothes she can n o longer buy, etc. I'm more into N64 and DVD players because I don't like streaming much, and most new video games are of little interest to me. The only I think Sabrina and I even have in common, is a like for Transformers. And I don't even own any of the toys. I'm more of a Gundam fan. I had one Transformers toy as a kid, and that was it. Instead I enjoyed legos and hot wheels cars. I have no nostalgia for past Sabina or past ZZ. Or even the past of any character in this comic. I actually like that the characters are aging, and that makes me look forward to new pages. But that in itself isn't a form of nostalgia. It's anticipation.

For me to be nostalgic about something, it'd have to be old cartoons I like, like Tiny Toons and Talespin. And lamenting that Bonkers didn't get a DVD release, or Bucky O'Hare didn't get a second season. And I don't know if you've heard of a series called Exo Squad. But that was really good. And old video games of my youth, like those on the N64. All that gives me nostalgia. But not this webcomic.

Anyway, I'm done talking with you about ZZ's father, because we'll never agree. So there's no point.

Edited at 2025/11/11 04:59:19

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 04:58:45 No.2517533

>>2517532
For someone who says they're not nostalgic for classic Sabrina Online and they barely think about its past, you sure were able to rattle off a whole bunch of shit about classic Sabrina Online that would've taken me at least a half-hour to research because I wouldn't have remembered half of it off the top of my head.

And not for nothing, man, but the reason you "disagree" with me about ZZ's dad isn't the reason you think. Even if I were to agree with you that his personality is "accurate" given what he's done and what he's been through, that still wouldn't fucking matter to me. The writing should be putting Zig Zag - a rape survivor facing her rapist - in the driver's seat and giving her lines that would at least give the audience some kind of emotional catharsis before she leaves and breaks down emotionally and all that. Instead, her rapist is getting to joke about having raped her to her face while the writing damn near tries to let him justify what he did with a form of "you were totally asking for it, you slut". "Realism" is irrelevant. Characterization and the tenor of this entire confrontation are the problems here. No amount of giving either ZZ or her father a "realistic psychology" will fix the inherent issues with giving a rapist more of a chance to shine than the ostensible protagonist of this particular comic. Now say "realistic psychology" again time like it matters. I want to see you once again avoid the point that you have up to now refused to address because I may be an asshole, but you're a fucking coward and that's worse.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 05:07:39 No.2517535

>>2517533
I may be an asshole

More than likely.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 05:13:38 No.2517536

>>2517533
I remember it because I've been in enough debates in these threads that I had to go back and look things up a lot. And the knowledge just stuck with me over the years. And learning through debate is often how one learns the most. If one learns and remembers history, it's not like they're nostalgic for it unless they really like it. For me, it's just history. In this case, webcomic history. If you wanted to get me nostalgic, I'd have to be talking about the RX-78-2 Gundam, or one of my favorite video games, or something. I also find it odd that someone who has read the webcomic as long as you have, doesn't remember details like that. What I detailed was actually pretty sparse. I just have anticipation for what new pages will bring. So again, no nostalgia. I don't think I've even been to the actual Sabrina Online website in roughly two years.

Again, done talking with you about ZZ's father. You're beating a dead horse.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 05:16:20 No.2517537

>>2517536
Look at the coward run away instead of addressing the point he intentionally refuses to understand! Look at him and laugh!

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 05:20:48 No.2517539

>>2517537
(Laughs) Oh man, are you ever toxic. I can't even take you seriously.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 05:22:07 No.2517540

>>2517537

Oh, I'm laughing, but not at Cornchowder.

He's given you a graceful escape-hatch. Why not use it?

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 05:27:14 No.2517541

>>2517523
>People who end up in prison have to deal with other prisoners and their behaviors. It's basically a walled off enclave of horrible people who only have each other most of the time.
Being in prison makes you better at dealing with prison and it's inmates, not people. It's such a specialized environment that it cripples your ability to deal with anything outside it, that's why people who spend a long time behind bars find it hard to process the real world. If prison gave you deep insights and the ability to psychoanalyze, recidivism would be a statistical error and not a sad fact. ZigZag's father is a blue-collar guy who has failed at everything he's tried to do in his life, this does not suggest a keen analytical mind.

Zig could have gotten help with her problems from a support group or a therapist, but Eric just treated these as a farce. We aren't really discussing the character of her father here, we're discussing why Eric chose to give this much screen time to a child rapist. Because the premise that she can get closure by confronting him without a third party on hand to reel him in and prevent re-traumatization is absurd.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 05:36:01 No.2517543

>>2517541
Still on this are you? It's a dead horse man. Quit beating it. And not everyone who goes, learns from going to prison. Doesn't mean they can't learn though. Prisons these days often have their own educational systems for teaching inmates skills like cooking and other basic trades before they go back out into the world. Prisons often have their own counselors, chapels, libraries, focus groups, etc. It's really no surprise one could learn from being stuck there.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 05:55:30 No.2517548

>>2517533
>"Realism" is irrelevant.
What!? In a comic with talking toys and pants that look identical to a naked lower body, how can realism be irrelevant?

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 07:47:23 No.2517569

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>>2517541
Edit: Just to note, this is Sabrina with a water cannon

Edited at 2025/11/11 08:14:29

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 10:23:09 No.2517593

>>2517473
>These days Kadath has alienated most of his original fanbase.
Agreed. (also not nostalgiaAnon)
But can't you see how this latest scene might be alienating EWS fans? Even if you think he is handling the subject matter well, can't you see how poorly the subject matter fits into SabrinaOnline?

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 11:42:15 No.2517601

It's been said before that this comic has a tonal problem.

One month's strip would feature talking toys, a kid asking why everyone is hugging on the internet, or two characters starting an orgy in a busy amusement park.

The next month will be about 9/11, a character getting mugged/hospitalized, or someone confronting their childhood abuser.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 12:16:48 No.2517603

>>2517601

Tonal shifts are not a problem if handled with skill. Look at various episodes of THE X-FILES.

The trouble here is that Schultz is not up to the task -- at least, not yet. I'm not optimistic.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 12:28:13 No.2517604

>>2517593
I agree it may be alienating fans. Personally I don't care for it either. Which is why I'm just waiting for this arc to be over. EWS could have ended this scene like two pages ago. Either way, this won't stop me from reading.

>>2517601
Yes. But in a way, that's what I like about it. It doesn't stay just slice of life. It shows the good with the bad.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 13:39:47 No.2517607

>>2517603
EWS has been doing this for almost 30 years.
If he hasn't been able to figure it out yet, he really should just switch to zany antics. He seems more suited to that that these attempts at "heavier" topics.

Edited at 2025/11/11 13:41:31

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 13:40:25 No.2517608

>>2517543
You keep making the same mistake so much that I have to believe you're making it on purpose now. Ain't no other way to see it after you keep missing the point so much that you'd have to be retarded to not get it even when it's been spelled out for you. But on the off chance that you really are that retarded, I'm going to spell out the issue people have with this mini-arc one more time.

First off: Drop the "BUT MUH REALISM" argument. It's a non-starter because nobody is arguing against it. ZZ's father being an amoral bastard who copes with what he's done using dark humor? Not the actual problem. And nobody cares if his psychology is "realistic" or whether it's "realistic" if prison humbled him a bit (or if it didn't). Don't go down that road again because it's not the road everyone else is going down in regards to their criticism, okay? I don't want have to call the short bus for you.

The reason people are criticising this part of the comic - and I want you to really take your time to sincerely read and understand this, even if you want to intentionally misunderstand it in favor of the "muh realism" argument - is that ZZ's father has been getting too much screen time and too much deference by the writing. He's been allowed to one-up the comic's ostensible protagonist without her really able to fire back anything that has as much bite as he's been dishing out. The format of this comic dictates that every page end with a joke/punchline, and as we've established many times before, one of those "jokes" was ZZ's father saying he raped her when she was a child because puberty blessed her with nice tits. The framing of the joke, the format of the comic, and the way Eric keeps writing ZZ's father dismantling her own mindset and arguments, the audience is clearly supposed to be laughing at a "joke" that makes light of rape by way of going "well of course the dumb cunt had it coming". Not only is that a shitty rape joke (good rape jokes "punch up" at rapists rather than "punch down" at rape victims), it's also giving a child rapist the chance to be seen as humorous in a way that we shouldn't be seeing as funny. The problem a lot of us here have isn't with ZZ's father having a "realistic" psychology - it's with the writing giving him way too much credit and giving Zig Zag virtually no real chance for a big, dramatic, emotionally satsifying "fuck you" moment. Every extra page of this nonsense, which should've ended at least three pages ago, will keep deflating that moment so that its landing will have all the emotional heft of someone coughing into their hand. And to reiterate so you get the fucking message: The psychology of ZZ's father and how "realistic" it may or may not be has ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING to do with the writing being this shitty.

>>2517604
"It shows the good with the bad." You say that like a slice-of-life comic with the kind of outlandish stuff seen in Sabrina Online would actually benefit from the tonal whiplash of going from a comic about babysitting a horde of young children to a comic about a porn star sexually assaulting her best friend's mother and going on a personal journey into her past. Half the reason this particular comic (and especially this specific mini-arc it's in) isn't really working for a lot of people is because of the tonal whiplash. It's also not working because Eric's started at least three different plot directions - ZZ dealing with what she did to Endora, Endora dealing with what ZZ did to her, Tina needing a new place to stay - and of the three, only ZZ's story is getting any real time because apparently we all needed to see ZZ's family but especially her child-raping wife-beating asshole father. The story with Tabitha babysitting was at least more focused in that regard. This comic feels like it's going to wrap everything up in the last couple of pages as if Eric had spent most of the comic building up to their resolution instead of ignoring the other plot points to show us Zig Zag's origin story. To put a finer point on it: ZZ's father probably has more screen time in this comic than Endora, and this comic started with ZZ kissing Endora. If you want to tell me how that can ever be a good thing, especially given the way this writing has treated ZZ's father, I hope you have a better argument in your back pocket besides "BUT MUH REALISM" or "well ackshually slice-of-life comics all need a dark side to them or else they're just not really about life" (which is a "BUT MUH REALISM" argument in a costume). You seem so eager to defend this writing - especially given how you've been trying to explain the nuances of the psychology of child rapists - so why stop now? Please, dig that hole deeper while you still have a chance to get out of it without help.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 14:32:08 No.2517615

>>2517608
Still beating the dead horse with both fists like a toddler I see. And resorting to extremely petty insults to boot. At this point, you're just rage baiting. You're even replying to things not even meant to talk to you. And you made a text wall reply to two very short commnts. Congratulations, you've turned a molehill into a crumbling mountain. You must be proud. You get the satisfaction of getting your rant in. Even though by this point, you know I could care less. I'm not gonna enable your rage baiting. All you do is look for any excuse to twist and enflame anything I say. And now, I find it more amusing than anything else. I don't care if you want to argue about what's realism and what isn't. What's plausible and what isn't. What's stereotypical and what isn't. What's heinous and what isn't. What's good or bad writing. You're just looking for someone to make an example of. Find someone else to have this conversation with.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 14:43:11 No.2517616

>>2517615
And once again, the coward runs away to avoid actually engaging with an argument he intentionally refuses to understand. Are you afraid to engage it because you know you don't have an actual counterargument and you don't want to destroy your affection for Sabrina Online/Zig Zag? Or are you genuinely too stupid to understand how bad the writing is?

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 15:02:28 No.2517618

>>2517616
Again, more rage-baiting. Calling me a coward will get you nowhere. I said my piece before, you're just incapable of understanding. You just want someone to rage at. And frankly, I don't give a damn. You were amusing in your bait attempts. Now you're just boring.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 15:23:00 No.2517621

>>2517618
Now you can't even answer a simple question. You really are too stupid to understand the argument. Ha ha ha, oh wow.

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 15:27:32 No.2517622

>>2517621
Whatever makes you feel smug, man. I really don't care. You're boring, repetitive, insulting... I can't even be bothered to say much more about you.

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 15:34:40 No.2517623

>>2517622
>I really don't care.
You're still replying, though. How close to the truth did I get when I said you were too stupid to understand my criticisms of this comic - too close for comfort, or right on the bullseye?

Cornchowder 2025/11/11 15:38:54 No.2517624

>>2517623
You're right. It does take two to tango. So I'll take my leave now. I hope you find whatever it is you're so lacking in life that you feel the need to be a keyboard SJW so badly.

Edited at 2025/11/11 15:40:57

Furrynomous 2025/11/11 16:08:10 No.2517633

>>2517624
Ooooooh, I hit it dead center, didn't I.

EDIT: Wait, "keyboard SJW"? Are you so mad about me criticizing the writing of a character who raped a child that you're calling me a Social Justice Warrior over it? Holy fucking shitballs.

Edited at 2025/11/11 16:36:35

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 02:16:45 No.2517736

>>2517633

Not that anon, but he's right. I only typically see SJWs complain that badguys are badguys. Like, it's not the conservatives, chuds or enlightened centrists who write 3 page articles about the problematic misogyny of a character like the joker. I get you're mad about **how** the character is being handled by other characters, but if the purpose of the portrayal was goal scoring / getting an abused character to dunk on the abuser, the abused character stops being a character. It becomes a marry sue vehicle to wish fulfill for the audience.

For good writing, I'd honestly rather have an abuse victim that's still a normal person rather than a manifestation of wit and snark just to fulfill your sense of justice.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 02:45:39 No.2517741

>>2517736
I have no problem with ZZ's father being written as an unrepentant asshole. I have no problem with Eric giving the bastard a dark sense of humor. What I have a problem with is the writing putting him in a position to continually one-up the character that, for literal decades, Eric has treated so well that she's usually the one getting ahead in any situation (and maybe giving head while she's at it). I get that her dad has to be written the way he does as a character, but the writing here is so shit because, as I've said before, this could've ended pages ago with ZZ telling off her father and walking out of the prison only to THEN emotionally break down and consider whether the bastard had a point. Moreover, this scene/mini-arc/whatever you want to call it didn't need a page where the punchline was near-literally "you had your rape coming because puberty gave you big boobs" and the audience is ostensibly meant to find that funny instead of horrific.

I brought up the MCU earlier, and that provides a good counterweight to this argument. Thanos got a whole-ass movie to himself to espouse his ideology about balance and to effectively "win" by snapping half the universe's living beings into dust. Nobody had a problem with the bad guy being allowed to win in Infinity War because everyone knew Thanos would eventually get his comeuppance in Endgame (which he did). This is why the writing in this scene sucks: Whatever comeuppance could be coming to ZZ's father will probably never be seen (or will be glossed over if it is), so the only real comeuppance he can get that would matter in this context is from ZZ telling him to go fuck himself and trying her best to put herself on the moral high ground before leaving him to rot. But instead of that, we're getting pages' worth of ZZ's father giving her a comeuppance she didn't even really have coming while she sits and sulks and comes off as a brat. And yes, I UNDERSTAND that it can be "realistic" for that to happen in real life and all - but this isn't real life we're talking about here. It's fiction. And since all of Sabrina Online has never really been about letting "the bad guy" win - remember, even ZZ herself got decked when she tried to sexually assault Sabrina - seeing it happen here is so fucking jarring that it almost feels like a betrayal of the entire comic (and Eric's treatment of ZZ) to date.

One of the best movies ever made, The Dark Knight, ends with the bad guy ultimately winning: The Joker didn't blow up the boats, but he corrupted Harvey Dent so much that it forced Batman to break his one rule and take the credit for the murders Harvey committed. Same goes for the end of The Empire Strikes Back: Han was frozen and delivered to Jabba, Luke lost a hand, and the Rebel Alliance wasn't any closer to beating the Empire. Even though those two movies had sequels where the good guys ultimately won, those movies ended with the bad guys winning - and they're regarded as great movies anyway. The bad guy winning isn't the problem. The problem is making that win "work" within the context of the story so the audience feels like that ending was the only reasonable outcome of the story and thus creates the proper emotional effect. This scene in this comic sucks because it's hard to know exactly what Eric wants out of it due to how he's letting ZZ's dad verbally stomp a mudhole in his daughter and walk it dry. If this had ended pages ago in the way I described, I'd probably have a lot less hate for it. But now it feels like he's dragging this scene out so ZZ's dad can have the final word and thus an unearned comeuppance over the daughter he raped. "Ignoring realism" or "the bad guy winning" isn't the problem here - it's how the bad guy winning here would be an unearned moment that leaves a sour taste in the mouth of everyone who reads it.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 03:10:52 No.2517743

>>2517741
What I have a problem with is the writing putting him in a position to continually one-up the character that, for literal decades, Eric has treated so well that she's usually the one getting ahead

That's 3 paragraphs to admit I'm right. As I already put it, you want the scumbag to end up getting his shit slapped by a character, that by your own admission, ends up on top far more often then she should.

In-fact, I'd say it's karma. Zig sexually harasses married women who are straight, so she has no respect for sexuality or marriage. In real life, that behavior would result in big fucking lawsuits and the business getting ruined with 99% of people saying fuck that bitch, it's deserved.

It's a lot like people watching 2077 for the first time, having no experience with the motto "there are no happy endings" for the universe, and complaining that everybody dies.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 03:34:01 No.2517745

>>2517743
>That's 3 paragraphs to admit I'm right.
In case you missed it, I suggested that one of the ways this scene could've ended is with ZZ getting the verbal comeuppance (which would give the audience that bit of emotional catharsis) before leaving the prison and breaking down while wondering if her father was right about her. Again, think of Joker in The Dark Knight: His whole plan was to corrupt at least one of Gotham's two "white knights" so that even if he was either arrested or killed, either Harvey Dent or Batman would be corrupted in the eyes of the public, who would collectively lose hope in things getting better as a result and let the city fall back into chaos. (Die a hero, live long enough, etc.) No matter what happened with Harvey and/or Batman, "the battle for Gotham's soul" was won by Joker the moment Harvey and Rachel were put in those warehouses to die - and that's because Joker gave Batman the choice of which one to save and intentionally misled Bats about who was where so that he would be punished by the decision no matter what. (In choosing Rachel, Batman saved Harvey, which led to the woman both of them loved dying and sending both them into a mental tailspin. In choosing Harvey, Batman would have saved Rachel, but he would have been made to think he was responsible for Harvey being killed by having made the wrong choice.)

To repeat myself again, I have no issue with a bad guy winning. What I have an issue with is whether that victory feels right both emotionally and logically. In this comic, in this scene, ZZ's father winning would feel unearned and thus leave a sour taste in my mouth. Even if Eric's plan is to end this scene the way I mentioned above, the scene has gone on for so long and given ZZ's father too many chances to verbally one-up his daughter that ending the scene that way now would almost feel like a cop-out. And so I'm absolutely clear: I love being sucker punched by endings where the bad guy wins. One of my favorites is The Cabin in the Woods - not only do the bad guys win so big that the story implies they might wipe out all of humanity, but the victory is so earned within the context of the story that it feels like the ending was the only real conclusion to the story that made sense. And even though the good guys manage to eke out a "win" by facilitating the deaths of all the bad guys in the facility (and killing The Director), that ends up giving the big bads their victory. Nothing about that ending feels cheap, and when you consider how it's a satire of slasher flicks as a horror subgenre and the state of horror films in general at the time, it even feels like a "good" ending. That's why this comic's current scene leaves a bad taste in my mouth: Nothing about it feels as earned as the movie endings I've talked about, and I highly doubt this scene will end in a way that makes the overall story of this comic any better.

Edited at 2025/11/12 03:36:37

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 03:49:20 No.2517748

>>2517745
To repeat myself again

Oh, the surprise of it.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 03:57:37 No.2517750

>>2517748
It's not my fault if you intentionally refuse to understand my argument. All I'm doing is making my argument as clear as possible so it can't be misconstrued unless you're intentionally trying to do exactly that. But if you want it boiled down in a sentence: Bad guys can win in a story without it feeling unearned and/or tonally wrong for the story - and in this specific story, this scene has been so uneven in terms of dialogue and tone that it seems like it'll end in a way where that "victory" will feel unearned and leave behind a shitty emotional aftertaste.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:09:51 No.2517752

>>2517750
It's not my fault if you intentionally refuse to understand my argument.

Actually, I'm someone else; no harm done.

But has it occurred to you that people might understand your argument, and that they disagree with its application in this context?

And if they disagreed on its first appearance, how likely are they to agree on its twentieth?

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:21:15 No.2517753

>>2517752
That's why I drilled down into specific examples of "the bad guy wins" endings: I can argue that a bad guy winning in a story can work while also arguing that it doesn't work in this particular story because the story hasn't really earned it. The dialogue has been so uneven in favor of ZZ's dad that Zig Zag, the protagonist of this story, hasn't really had a chance to get the better of her father the entire conversation. Even in instances where that sort of thing does work (think of Clarice and Hannibal Lecter in The Silence Of The Lambs), it's typically because the characters are written well enough to make it work. Good dialogue creates tension, a push-and-pull between the characters that heightens until the tension is broken at just the right moment to create the proper emotional response from the audience. This scene's dialogue is bad because ZZ's father has been getting the upper hand on her so much that no real tension exists - and it would still be that way even if you take the jokes out of the equation.

Once more, with feeling: Bad guys winning can work, but it takes good storytelling to make it work - and this scene in this comic is about the furthest thing from good storytelling that Eric's done since he tried to make a gangrape funny.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:28:34 No.2517754

>>2517753

Or on its twenty-first?

Why waste your time making the same point over and over and over again, when people have told you, with great patience, why they disagree? Repetition will not make your point any stronger.

Cornchowder 2025/11/12 04:32:09 No.2517755

>>2517754
This is kinda the point I tried to make. And when it wouldn't get through, I stopped caring.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:36:28 No.2517757

>>2517754
Because the disagreement is rooted in an idea I'm being told I believe in - specifically, that I believe the bad guy should never win in a story - despite arguing at great length that I don't hold that belief at all. I have pointed to several stories where the bad guy wins that I have no issue with, but I'll likely still be told what I believe despite not believing what I'm told I believe. If I believed the bad guys should never win in fiction, I'd be a fucking idiot. I can't rule out being someone with so much autism that I hog the whole-ass spectrum on some days, but I'm not so stupid as to believe what some people keep telling me I believe about bad guys winning as if it were an undisputed fact.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:41:05 No.2517758

>>2517757

Or on its twenty-second?

You seem to really love that hillside, Sisyphus.

Cornchowder 2025/11/12 04:46:13 No.2517760

>>2517758
I had to look up Sisyphus, and that was brilliant.

I Am Sisyphus' Inner Peace 2025/11/12 04:46:23 No.2517761

>>2517758
Hey, don't look at me, it's other people trying to tell me I believe something I don't. I've made my fucking point; it's on them to actually get it.

Also: If none of us imagined ourselves happy, none of us would be happy.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 04:53:47 No.2517762

>>2517761
I've made my fucking point

And now, you're free to move on to better things.

I mentioned earlier that Cornchowder had given you a graceful escape hatch. You've given yourself another. Why not use it?

I Am Jack's Lack of Impulse Control 2025/11/12 04:58:14 No.2517764

>>2517762
My "I'm likely hella autistic" shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 05:17:21 No.2517766

>>2517736
True, but she is taking this abuse needlessly. Not only does she have the freedom to leave any time she wants, she has the motivation. ZigZag is impulsive and brash often to a fault. Now you could say that facing her dad knocked her back into an earlier version of herself - into a time when she had to endure his abuse and now she's kinda doing it without realizing. But even that doesn't track. Even before the rapes, her dad used to beat her because she would get into his face and mouth off to him. She wasn't submissive even when it was the sensible option, let alone now.
That's the thing here - there's no character motivation for her to stay. In fact running off with a "screw you!" might not be smart, but it would be in character. She's staying in this scene because it is convenient for the author to have her to do so. I don't think anyone here's upset that the child-rapist is shit, they're upset that the writing is.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 05:27:11 No.2517767

>>2517766
>She's staying in this scene because it is convenient for the author to have her to do so.
And it's worth asking what that convenience is for. Is it because Eric thinks she needs to sit through this abuse to make her a "better" person when she finally tells off her dad, or is it because Eric is trying to give ZZ's dad some sort of moral high ground on the daughter he raped? Either way, it's shitty fucking writing with no tension to be snapped and thus no emotions to be tapped.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 05:40:19 No.2517769

War never changes.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 06:32:43 No.2517798

>>2517767
Yeah. There was never a moment when someone tells Zig that she'll never get over her trauma unless she confronts her father, or her telling Tina that it's something she needs to do. Right or wrong, it would establish why she's staying and ground the decision in the story.
Honestly the confrontation with her mom should have been the big deal since it had more potential for good drama, catharsis etc. but the ineractions were just so wooden and flat. A waste of actual storytelling potential.
Even people defending the prison scene admit they are just waiting for it to be over and hope to never see ZZ's dad again, so it really doesn't make sense to make the least worthwile scene in this arc the longest one.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 11:56:03 No.2517849

>>2517752

100% this. This is the issue. Four people talking here, including the guy who's really upset about how this story is going. Sometimes I wish we had automatic unique identifiers the same way lulz did.

Guy who keeps repeating himself -- we understand, we disagree! There is a very small overlap between true-to-life story telling, and satisfying storytelling. Even less so in slice-of-life which is what this whole comic is meant to be in terms of genre. Zig not getting her win makes it more authentic to life, and as a story. Some of us are all about the power of friendship, some of us aren't. Some of us want the sad and bad endings to some story threads.

There's an old saying. The best revenge is living well. Does Zig really need to slam poetry dear old Dad? Did you forget her success, her long term poly relationship with Lynx chick? Friends that wont leave her even when she's being a sex pest? Family that forgave her and was willing to come back and give being family another shot?

There's a deep lesson here -- envy is the thief of joy. Always wanting what you don't have is a surefire way to under-appreciate what's gone right.

Cornchowder 2025/11/12 13:26:32 No.2517854

>>2517849
I couldn't have said it anywhere near this good. Very well done, man.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 15:04:05 No.2517874

>>2517849
>Guy who keeps repeating himself -- we understand, we disagree! There is a very small overlap between true-to-life story telling, and satisfying storytelling. Even less so in slice-of-life which is what this whole comic is meant to be in terms of genre. Zig not getting her win makes it more authentic to life, and as a story. Some of us are all about the power of friendship, some of us aren't. Some of us want the sad and bad endings to some story threads.
Remember how I said earlier that people were intentionally refusing to understand my argument and were telling me that I believed something I don't actually believe? You did at least one of those in that paragraph. So since you fuckers refuse to understand me, I have to make my position clear again.

Have I said that I want, as an absolute, Zig Zag to get the last laugh and suffer no ill effects from voluntarily sitting through what amounts to verbal abuse from her father? No. Have I said that I wish there were no such thing as a story that ends with the bad guy "winning" in some way? No. Have I said that I avoid media with such endings? No.

What I have said is that it requires good writing - and I said "good" writing, not "true to life" writing, though those two are often one and the same - to pull off an ending where the bad guy wins and have it come off well. I've given examples of movies where the bad guy ultimately wins even if all the bad guy did was set events in motion that would ultimately achieve his goal without his direct in-the-moment involvement. I've dissected why those endings work in the context of those movies. That you still think I somehow have a problem with the concept of "sometimes the bad guys win" in storytelling despite everything I've said to the contrary is on you.

This scene in this comic sucks not because the bad guy might "win", but because there's no tension any more. If ZZ had left after her dad did the whole "we're a lot alike, you and I" bit, maybe there would be internal tension within ZZ as she tries to reconcile what her father said with the kind of person she thinks she is/wants to be. But this scene has gone on way too long to have any tension now. No matter how it ends - no matter who gets the last word and the emotional comeuppance over the other - there's no tension to break because the emotional impact of the dialogue has been so one-sided in favor of ZZ's dad that it robbed the scene of any tension. And has someone else pointed out, this whole situation is one ZZ put herself in - she went in voluntarily, she could leave voluntarily, and she probably already should have left. That she hasn't isn't "true to life", but bad storytelling that robbed the scene of any emotional tension it could've had. And I apparently have to say this again so people will understand it instead of twisting it to mean something else, so here we go again: Yes, I would've been fine if the scene ended several pages ago with ZZ walking out after a big "fuck you" moment, only to break down emotionally and really consider if her father was right about her being like him. That would be a "bad guy winning" ending for this scene, and to be 100% clear so there are no more misunderstandings (unless you choose to misunderstand), I WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT KIND OF ENDING TO THIS SCENE. The issue I would have is that even if Eric does it now, it's come way too late to have the emotional impact that it could have if he'd done it pages earlier.

My dislike of this scene has never been about ZZ's dad being a remorseless bastard, the potential for ZZ's dad to get the emotional upper hand on her in the end, or the writing being "true to life" or "realistic" in terms of the psychology. My dislike is rooted in principles of storytelling - dramatic tension, good "attack and defend" dialogue, pacing, satisfying endings regardless of the emotion invoked by said endings - that this scene thoroughly disregards. The writing is shit because it lacks any clear direction for where this is going and the dialogue has drained all the tension out of the scene. Have I made myself clear now, or will you once again tell me that I believe "there shouldn't be any bad guy wins endings" despite this entire fucking post (and at least a half-dozen posts before this one) telling you in terms as clear and unambiguous as I can manage that I 100% do not believe that bullshit in any way?

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 16:23:55 No.2517878

>>2517874
>Yes, I would've been fine if the scene ended several pages ago with ZZ walking out after a big "fuck you" moment, only to break down emotionally and really consider if her father was right about her being like him.
Honestly, this makes sense. She could have gone back to Tina and aired out these concerns, especially since Eric hasn't found a good use for her in this arc since the flashback part.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 21:49:12 No.2517958

>>2517874
You completely misinterpret what other people are doing. Look, I'm autistic too. I used to argue just like you do, it wasn't until 35 that my brain development caught up and I stopped doing this.

People are not taking your meaning, when they are critical, and repeating it back to you in a way that will be charitable or will support your point if they disagree with you or do not want the outcomes that you do. As I said, some people are here to have some story threads and unhappily so that other story threads feel like Karma balancing the scales. This logically means that they are not going to make you happy when they repeat only the flaws of your argument and leave out anything that would be beneficial to your argument, that's just how people argue when they are neurotypical or approaching neurotypicality.

You have to understand that the direction you want the story to go in is diametrically opposed to the people who wanted to go a different direction or who are fine to enjoy it as written by the author as intended.

No amount of explaining yourself repeatedly is going to move these people, it means that they heard your argument and they disagree with it and they have filtered it down to distill it to the most dismissable form. This is why debates have judges, this is why they have special rules and flags for fallacies. Most conversations outside of an actual debate format do not run purely based on logic or the robotic thinking process that ignores connotations of words and sentiments. People do not operate in debate mode and debate was only really invented to have regulated conversations that would not be possible without mediators because of the strength of emotional involvement creating permanent impasses.

Please read this twice. Please absorb this. You do not need to wait for your brain to arrive to this place naturally to save yourself a lot of time, one of the big failings of autism is a failure of what is called theory of mind. Theory of mind is our ability to put ourselves in the shoes of other people and think like them instead of think like ourselves. We assume everybody thinks like we do and that they would come to the same conclusions we would. That's just not the case.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 22:07:56 No.2517963

>>2517958
Okay, so, that's a whole hell of a lot of words to call me a fucking idiot. Coulda just said that and been done with it.

I recognize that disagreeing with my point is a thing people will do. I recognize that acting in bad faith and misrepresenting my argument is a thing people will do. But I have the right - and so long as I'm not banned, the privilege - to say "hey, you're misrepresenting my argument, so here it is in good faith". I've made my point clear a half-dozen times, and I'm still being told that I believe something that I don't, and I don't care if you think I'm fucking stupid for caring about people attacking my argument in good faith.

The direction this story goes from the most currently available page is irrelevant to my argument because no matter what happens, the dramatic tension of the scene has dissolved and left me with no reason to emotionally invest in the outcome of the scene. If ZZ gets to one-up her father, fine, whatever, who fucking cares any more - she got verbally stomped this whole scene and getting the last word in means nothing any more. If ZZ's dad gets the last word in, it'd be an emotionally inert moment at best and an outrage-causing moment at worst, but there is no sense of satisfaction to be found in the storytelling that led there. My issue has never been "realistic psychology" or "true-to-life writing" or "you're mad the bad guy might win" or even "you're mad that people in stories do bad things" (which is an argument so fucking stupid that even I can call it that without hesitation). My issue is, and always has been, how the writing sucked all the tension out of the scene and replaced it with the emotional weight of a dog farting.

Now I'll be glad to drop this argument so long as the people who've made it a mission to needle me into these long-ass replies by intentionally misrepresenting my argument and telling me that I believe something I don't will stop doing exactly that. When they drop the bullshit, so will I. But as long as I keep getting poked into explaining my position again, I'm going to keep doing it because I would prefer to repeat myself and make sure I'm understood as clearly as possible than let people shove words down my throat and try to make me choke on them. Do I have your understanding now?

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 23:38:51 No.2518016

>>2517963
Oh fucking please don't Marty yourself like a child. Pointing out that there is a brain development rate issue is not to call you an idiot. It's a goddamn stated fact of the fucking condition and it just means that your brain works differently and will evolve on a different time scale whereas other skills of your brain developed ahead of schedule. That's the science of the dam condition and has no bearing on your intellectual capability. I have the condition myself and talking about the mechanics of it is not the same as calling you an idiot. I'm not going to fall for that pity party crap.

Furrynomous 2025/11/12 23:45:11 No.2518017

>>2518016
Who's throwing a pity party? I know I'm a fucking idiot, my dude.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 02:03:36 No.2518101

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Furrynomous 2025/11/13 02:53:43 No.2518130

>>2518017
I know I'm a fucking idiot

And we know you are, too. It's one of the few perspectives on which we can all agree.

But do you really need to be so persistently, so loudly an idiot? Could you perhaps tone it down?

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 03:27:48 No.2518139

>>2518130
Dude... c'mon. Don't be like that to him. You treat people like that, they get into the "nothing left to lose" "they hate me anyway" behaviors.

Cornchowder 2025/11/13 03:36:47 No.2518140

>>2518139
I have to second this. They have been very petty, and resorted to making assumptions, pointless insults and rage-baiting. They thrive on the drama.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 03:50:56 No.2518144

>>2518139
You treat people like that, they get into the "nothing left to lose" "they hate me anyway" behaviors.

He's behaved that way for some time, now. I think we're justified in pointing this out.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 04:05:21 No.2518145

>>2518144
You don't know what it's like to have a 3b on your board, trust me.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 09:24:37 No.2518190

What a sad day when criticism is equated to people just "wanting what they want over the creator". And I thought we lived in a post-Dobson internet.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 09:50:10 No.2518194

>>2518190
Said the pirate, on a content pirating imageboard.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 10:03:38 No.2518195

said the pirate

SAID THE PIRATE

sad little pirate...

Sad pirate find the one piece!

KING OF THE PIRATES!!!!!

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 14:26:47 No.2518215

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oh thank fuck, we're finally fucking done with this shit

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 16:37:49 No.2518226

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>>2515128
>A tiny bit like discovering a certain magazine or video hidden in the back of a drawer in your parent's room.

>(It's pronounced 'feh-LEEN', BTW)

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 16:41:47 No.2518227

This was the most underwhelming/uneventful "meeting your abuser" story I've ever read. Let's pretend this never happened.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 17:03:19 No.2518229

>>2518226

Overall, this whole encounter felt far too safe and clean for a story about a character coming to terms with their terrible upbringing. There's frankly no debate. Eric can't write an actual serious topic. We've seen him write the basic bitch self-examination schtick in past storylines from this continuation.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 17:44:02 No.2518234

Wow. You really showed him, Tina.
Girl Power! (Sarcasm)

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 17:49:03 No.2518235

Was this last scene written by Eric Schwartz or Tommy Wiseau?

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 18:18:09 No.2518238

>>2518226
Wow. It's somehow more underwhelming than I imagined it would be. Even the last panel feels like a shitty version of a sticom end-of-episode freeze frame. Just a complete fucking waste of everyone's time, including Eric's.

>>2518229
>We've seen him write the basic bitch self-examination schtick in past storylines from this continuation.
It's worse because at least there was some self-examination in those storylines. Here, the whole point seemed to be "the audience needs to see Zig Zag's father and learn what a remorseless child-raping bastard he really is to explain why Zig Zag, who was already feeling like shit over kissing Endora, has some issues that she needs to work out". Like, all of this "ZZ takes after her father in some ways" shit could've been a single page between ZZ and her mom where they talk about how ZZ's dad was a piece of shit and ZZ sees a bit of him in her own behavior, then another page or two where she visits her dad's grave and emotionally breaks down over how she got her bad habits from him. This bullshit we got? I don't even know where it goes from here because it clearly isn't trying to be an actual dramatic story with a viable dramatic throughline, solid pacing, and a more satisfying climax than one of Zig Zag's romps with Tina. This entire "Stripes and Links" comic can and should be ignored, and the sooner it ends so Eric can get around to Amy dealing with Timmy going to school for the first time or something equally as mundane, the better off everyone - including Eric - will be.

Cornchowder 2025/11/13 20:13:12 No.2518247

Up until this point the writing wasn't so bad. But EWS can't write an ending at all. Rather than Tina walking in, ZZ should have stood up, said something about understanding herself a little better, tells her father to never show his face to her again or she'll cave it in, and then walks out. Instead now we see her father was a huge Tina fan, and now EWS has left an open reason for the father to come back and harass them later. Lord, I hope we never see this guy in the comic again.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 20:55:07 No.2518248

>>2518247
>ZZ should have stood up, said something about understanding herself a little better, tells her father to never show his face to her again or she'll cave it in, and then walks out
Better, but still really predictable. The writing was so bad there was really no way for any ending to fix this scene. And it is hard to write an interesting scene where the basic outline is: two characters sit down, talk, and then get up and go their separate ways. Eric kinda set himself up for failure with this one...

But it's over and now he has the excuse to change ZigZag's character, which I figure was the whole point of this arc. Still a bit skeptical about that since the guy obsessed with the cartoons of his childhood and the first computer he ever owned isn't exactly the kind of person who embraces change.

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 22:00:15 No.2518262

Difficult, but not impossible.
Some of the best scenes from "Silence of the Lambs" were two people talking, with one literally in a cage at one point.

The difference as stated before was the pacing, actors' chemistry, dialogue, and having actual TENSION between those two characters.

This was a slog to get through. And perhaps most frustrating of all, the ending acts like the girls SOMEHOW pulled a win out of this.

Seriously, how does Tina casually claiming Zig's dad misidentifying her count as point scoring after all the times he got one over his daughter?

At least she could have said something like "I don't fuck prison bitches" given the last panel shows a hand reaching out to grab him.

Edited at 2025/11/13 22:07:52

Furrynomous 2025/11/13 22:07:04 No.2518266

>>2252179
>And it is hard to write an interesting scene where the basic outline is: two characters sit down, talk, and then get up and go their separate ways.
It really isn't. All you have to do is figure out where the tension in the conversation lies.

Consider the setup for this scene: Zig Zag is visiting her father in prison; beyond the familial relationship, we know that Dear Ol' Dad physically abused and raped Zig Zag when she was a kid. She's visiting him to ostensibly seek some kind of closure over what he did to her and how it affected her. The tension thus lies in how Zig Zag tries to reconcile the person she wants to be with the person her father helped shape her to become, including her hypersexuality and her anger issues.

The conversation between them would therefore need to stretch out that tension until it hits a point where breaking it will create the intended emotional effect in the audience. Maybe the conversation would be a bit cliché if it were a straightforward "we're not so different, you and I" scene - but it would still be better than the tension-draining bullshit we got from Eric.

Let's ignore the shitty joke from the first page where this scene began and get to the next few pages. ZZ tells her dad that she's there because she's going over her past and felt it was important to see him one last time. He apologizes for what he did after being a bastard about it, she punches the glass separator, and he tells her she's doing pretty well for someone who's life he fucked up. That point right there is an excellent start to the tension that could've carried this scene: ZZ has to reconcile her life as Zig Zag, a hugely successful and famous porn star, with her life as Tanya, a woman who was sexually abused by her father at a young age. And the next few lines help with that tension, too: ZZ's dad (henceforth "Dad" because it's easier) all but demands credit for Tanya's life turning out the way it did. This is an excellent way to turn the screws and tighten the tension by having Dad put Tanya on the defensive - "attack and defend" dialogue is the hallmark of quality dialogue writing.

But it all goes downhill on the next page when Tanya starts saying direct shit. She openly talks about all the shitty things she's done to people - specifically, going further than trying to be friends when that's all she wants - and spelling out everything. One of the biggest problems with this scene is the fact that everything is so direct and out in the open, leaving no room for implication or suggestion. A scene with good back-and-forth dialogue never tries to be so openly direct the whole way through; it leaves a little bit for people to gnaw on through implication and indirectness - a way for them to add 2 and 2 together instead of being told it's 4, if you get my drift. The worst offender of this is the page where Tanya does the whole "I call myself Zig Zag to take back that insult" thing; it's so cliché and direct and overwrought that it feels more like parody than sincerity.

If you want a good example of a back-and-forth dialogue scene where two characters meet, talk, and go their separate ways (until a little later, at least), Batman Returns has one with the scene between Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne - they're dancing together, talking with each other, and they're both unaware of each other's secret identities until they each say something to each other that gives it away. But once they realize the truth, they don't outright say "you're [Batman/Catwoman]". They both basically go speechless as they try to figure out what the hell their newfound knowledge means and what to do with it...right before The Penguin crashes the party they're at and forces them to go their separate ways. The tension in the scene comes from our knowledge of who Bruce and Selina really are; it's snapped when each they realize who the other is, but it creates a new tension by making us wonder whether they're going to be on the same side in the end, which carries through to the film's climax.

A back-and-forth dialogue scene doesn't have to be boring or cliché. It can have plenty of tension in it. All a writer has to do is figure out where the tension lies and how to best stretch it out without being too on-the-nose about it. Directness is the surest way to make that kind of scene boring as hell. Even the smallest of dialogue scenes can be made interesting through implication. In the Clooney-led Ocean's Eleven, Danny is sitting at a bar with Rusty; Danny says "ten oughta be enough" in reference to the heist job they're planning, and Rusty says nothing. Danny asks Rusty "you think we need one more?" and Rusty still says nothing. Danny says "we need one more" and Rusty still says nothing. The dialogue implies how well Danny and Rusty know each other - they know how the other thinks and don't need to say a word to get that across - and sets up the following scene where Danny recuits the eleventh member of his crew. It's a scene of dialogue that's maybe a minute long at best, but it stands out because it says a lot about the characters without the characters saying a lot.

This whole scene in this comic probably could've been whittled down to half its length and been much better if Eric had learned how to write drama in addition to (or even instead of) Garfield-level "comedy". Even if it had to be the most cliché conversation of its type, I'd still prefer that to the garbage we actually got.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 03:14:27 No.2518310

As a little test to see if I could make the scene's dialogue any better, I wrote this bullshit:

https://rentry.org/SNLAltDialogue

I'm not claiming to be Shakespeare or anything. Hell, this is the first real bit of dialogue I've written in a length of time longer than I want to admit to. I also knocked it out in, like, an hour at most. But I bet this is still a better read than the shitty dialogue Eric wrote for this scene.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 05:50:44 No.2518340

>>2518310
Not bad. Though ZZ claiming she “doesn’t want sex all the time” seems a bit hypocritical given her nymphomanical nature. But hey, I’d this over the original.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 07:10:49 No.2518363

>>2518310
It kinda hinges on the old Max Blackrabbit backstory - Zig was a strugling actress doing bit roles because of her "too exotic" look until her manager found her a lead in a pornographic movie. In that one, the manager was reluctant to even bring it up but ZigZag took it - her own decision to get into porn.
In this retcon Tina finds her working as a stripper/prostitute in a place that doesn't mind hiring underage girls (shady as fuck) and offers her porn as a way out of a much shittier situation.
Might be a nitpick, but in the first scenario she's picked the path of an actress and is willing to accept sex-work to stay on it, while in the other she's already having sex with strangers for money and takes a shot of doing it on film.
I get that her dad is shitty enough to suggest he's resposible for her success, but the notion is too ludicrous to entertain. Every success story, from little to big, starts with a person leaving home and becoming independant. It's quite possile to achieve this without having to flee your home in fear four your safety. That line makes him come off not as a villain but - an idiot. Which he is - blue collar turned white trash, never accomplished anyhting, even as a criminal, only ever fought people he percieved as weaker... This is kinda my pet peave - I need something impressive about a villain no matter how loathsome, and this guy just checks every field in the 'Looser' column. Even doing time as a known child molester would make him the absolute bottom rung in prison.
That could have been the therapeutic take-away for this - the last time Zig saw him he was the monster in her life, and now he's been reduced to a worm...

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 08:16:12 No.2518373

>>2518363
Yes yes! That's everything this story is supposed to/should've been! Not this unbalanced, half-hearted, impersonal, didn't even try to explore what it's like being in the situation as victim of a terrible act done to you as a child, "comedy bit" that we all had to endure for months.

Nobody has said it, but this incurious attempt to explore Zig's past is the same way he did in the book exclusive Amy's Wedding for the old Sabrina Online books. It's when Amy's father decided to just dump a panel's worth of information, with no prompt or warning, about how Amy was assaulted by a boy at 16 and apparently has had trust issues with others to Thomas before the two even got to the alter. It doesn't do anything for her character, it's the only time we ever receive this information, as far as I know, anyway, and it's forgotten about afterwards anyway. It's like Eric just took this idea from whatever dramatic episode of his favorite sitcom and added that into his little book exclusive story with the intentions of trying to get an emotional beat out of the reader despite its lack of substance and presence overall. It was something made back in the 90s and he hasn't changed how he approaches a topic like that in the 29 years he's been doing this comic. Just now it's worse since it's an abuse story with the topic of child rape being the focus and yet he can only see it as just another story about sad characters being sad and melodramatic as if he's going through every trope in the book to slap onto garbage story like they're porn tags on an imageboard.

While Eric loves Zig Zag, he doesn't really love her story as much. If anything, the reason this this whole storyline is triple-lengthed is because he hasn't written a Zig Zag focused Sabrina Online story in years and just wanted to use her backstory for it and to fill out his number quota for the next physical book release. If anything, he isn't really invested in the serious aspect of it as much as everybody, whether here or on his patreon, try to care for it. It's more Zig Zag with in a story so safe it's actively avoiding being challenging, what with even Endora's side of the story not bothering to treat the consequences with any really sincerity either. It's why this whole encounter ended so toothlessly. He's not making comics to put/challenge his characters in various situations, he's just fulfilling another financial quota.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 12:50:52 No.2518406

>>2518340
>ZZ claiming she “doesn’t want sex all the time” seems a bit hypocritical
You can take it that way if you want. That bit was predicated on the original dialogue and ZZ expressing remorse at pushing people away when she just wants a simple friendship. I'd taken that dialogue to mean that yes, she doesn't want sex all the time, but she can't help but push things too far because of how the abuse fucked her up.

>>2518363
>It kinda hinges on the old Max Blackrabbit backstory
So did this comic. I just rewrote the dialogue for this specific "ZZ visits Dad in jail" scene; anything beyond that is above my pay grade, so to speak.

>That could have been the therapeutic take-away for this - the last time Zig saw him he was the monster in her life, and now he's been reduced to a worm
Shit, why didn't I think of that? Damn.

Edited at 2025/11/14 13:11:23

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 15:36:04 No.2518460

Overall, I think you did a good job.
Even if this was just a quick bit of work, you nailed a lot of the points this arc TRIED to convey.

It's much more concise and focused.
Her dad tries the same schtick but your version doesn't give him the punchline or the victory.

Zig's words hit harder and don't come off nearly as mealy and broken.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 15:46:26 No.2518462

>>2518460
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. I did my best to give Dad more "attack" lines to get under Zig Zag's skin, but I peppered a few "attack" lines for ZZ in there until the "this is where I fuck you back" bit, which is where she goes full "attack". That's the key to good dialogue: There has to be give and take ("attack and defend"), and most of what happened in Eric's version was ZZ taking ("defending") far more than she gave ("attacked"). I also didn't want to give her the upper hand the whole time because it would've been just as bad. The only thing I regret is, as pointed out above, not using the idea of "he was a monster to her when he abused her, but now he's a pathetic old man" - but that's only because that idea didn't come to me in the moment as I was writing. It was an hour-long rush of an idea, so there was only so much I could do. Still, it felt good to actually do some writing again after so long away from it, so at least this whole shitty ordeal of a comic made something good happen.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 16:56:37 No.2518473

>>2518460
Flow's much better too. Shows you what can be accomplished when you treat the scene as a whole and not the page.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 19:21:56 No.2518540

I think..... After this story arc... I'm finally done with this comic.

Like, I've been reading Sabrina since it first started getting published online back in the 90s. I'm probably one of the most dedicated readers of this series. But this... This was beyond a bullshit story. This was insulting to read. This ham-fisted attempt at a "very special episode" where ZZ confronts her sexually-abusive criminal father by LETTING HIM TALK and then it ends with him being allowed to call her "baby girl" while she remains SILENT?

Nah. Fuck this whole comic now. I kept up with it through a lot of questionable storytelling choices, but this isn't just bad writing. It's problematic on how Eric views these types of issues as a person. He's trying to portray a p*do-inc*stuous rapist as a sympathetic "Well maybe he's not SO bad" character. No fucking thanks.

I thought better of you, Eric. I'm done now. Ugh.

Edited at 2025/11/14 19:24:43

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 20:38:24 No.2518577

>>2518540
If I had to wager a guess, I would think Eric doesn't actually like child abusers. That initial joke about Zig Zag's body filling out aside, he didn't actually try to paint ZZ's dad as anything but a bastard. The problem is more that Eric stuck so hard to the six-frame comic format and the "every page has to have a punchline"-type writing that it hampered the whole scene. Yes, every page needs a "hook" to lure people into wanting to see the next page - but it doesn't always have to be humorous, and it especially doesn't need to be in a scene about a subject this serious.

What made things worse was how Zig Zag sat there and basically took a ton of verbal abuse from Dear Ol' Dad without landing any lines that emotionally bruised him in the same way his lines bruised her. (As was pointed out by someone else, she could've pointed out how much of a monster he seemed like back when he was abusing her and compared that to the powerless piece of shit he is now.) My dialogue rewrite was an attempt to balance things out a little better by letting Zig Zag express some actual frustration and anger in a way that seems more human than sulking in a chair like a brat, then giving her a chance to low-key threaten her father with effectively being raped (or worse) in jail - sure, that makes her a shitty person, but this whole specific comic has been about ZZ trying to figure out why she's a shitty person to her friends, so it at least fits in with the idea that her father fucked her up by abusing her even if we can understand the impulse.

I maintain that the page format could work, but it would require better writing to make it come off as sympathetic towards Zig Zag. I have to assume Eric tried his best because laziness would still result in less bullshit than this, but his best wasn't anywhere near good enough to do this subject justice. Shame, really. I know Zig Zag is really just fap material and all, but she could still be given a whole Dark And Tragic Past that she worked to overcome and avoid repeating by being better than her abuser. At least we can all just ignore this bullshit in the future.

Furrynomous 2025/11/14 23:37:14 No.2518630

This is what's so frustrating about "Sabrina Online".

The storylines COULD be amazing. The characters have so much POTENTIAL.

I'm not saying this needs to be the furry webcomic answer to "The Sopranos" or "Breaking Bad", but it's been shown by other writers/artists that this comic could be a lot better.

There's tons of examples of modern cartoons that balance edgy/raucous/zany humor with drama. But EWS wastes it by sticking to a ho-hum PG-13/TV-14 rating. It's like he doesn't realize if he wanted an animated series out of this, he could pitch it to Netflix or Amazon Prime, not 90s-00s network TV.

Furrynomous 2025/11/15 00:41:54 No.2518639

>>2518577
Yup, I see your point. And as a professional comic creator and writer myself, I can honestly say I vastly prefer your version of those pages. Eric really dropped the ball with this whole arc, sadly; it seems to be pretty much universally hated.

Furrynomous 2025/11/15 08:07:58 No.2518704

>>2518540
Kinda this. Stopped reading after the "got boobs early" bit. Not because a child rapist made an off-color joke, but because Eric made it. This is his punchline formula - joke in last frame, shrug with palms up, eye-roll, head-tilt-to-4th-wall. Eric thought it was funny and was trying to get laughs out of it and that just creeped me out, and his stuff has been doing that a lot lately. I figured I'd just ignore it and wait for a normal story to pick up, but from the comments I read, it seems to have gone really down-hill in a bad way.

Also, anyone find it ironic that Eric's "confront the rapist" arc got a "pretend it isn't happening and wait for it to be over" reaction from almost everyone here?

Furrynomous 2025/11/15 09:22:06 No.2518724

There comes a time where an artist needs to be not only put on a watchlist but also have their brains dissected to search for the clear answer on what the fuck they were on thinking they could handle anything past a quirky out-of-college tech geek running an ancient motherboard from the mid-90s.

Furrynomous 2025/11/15 09:25:06 No.2518725

>>2518226
Never have I thought I'd see the day Eric could make a worse story than Toy Story, Too.

Furrynomous 2025/11/15 18:35:30 No.2518888

>>2518725

That's debateable. I say Toy Story is still worse than this chapter because at least this one has a direction to follow and knows where it's trying to go with. Toy Story, Too is just an aimless mess that shouldn't exist and only existed just to waste time and fill up space.

Furrynomous 2025/11/16 17:16:37 No.2519127

At least this means we'll get back to see how that prank in the studio has been going.

Edited at 2025/11/19 05:13:59

Furrynomous 2025/11/19 04:22:11 No.2519676

>>2519127
I'm still hoping that Sabrina takes her eyes off of Tabitha for a minute so Sheila can throw her on the desk and give her a proper pitch for her movie idea.

Furrynomous 2025/11/19 12:54:48 No.2519716

>>2519676
This is not /cub/ so keep that kind of shit there.

Furrynomous 2025/11/19 14:35:44 No.2519735

Just about anything would be better than dealing with more of Zig Zag's Daddy Issues

Furrynomous 2025/11/19 18:51:02 No.2519770

>>2519716
Considering how this story's been going it's starting to feel like it might be par the course.

Maybe Zig-Zag will come back getting handsy with a renewed sense of vigor since she was apparently better off for it, she gets to grope and teach life lessons apparently.

Furrynomous 2025/11/21 01:21:08 No.2520132

>>2519770
Yeah, can’t have FurAfterDark’s main star go clean now can we. Honestly, I think that’s the real reason why EWS writes her with little to no change.

Edited at 2025/11/21 01:24:14

Furrynomous 2025/11/21 05:41:12 No.2520181

>>2520132
Who says she needs to be clean? A sexy character can continue being a sexy character. You just need to drop the sexual harassment and perverted stalker traits from her.

Furrynomous 2025/11/23 19:06:10 No.2521038

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>>2518226

>"It is the wise skunk that knows when to bust down the bulletproof glass to attack someone, - and when not to."

Furrynomous 2025/11/23 19:38:32 No.2521055

>>2521038
My god, he did the right fucking thing here and did the whole "he's just a shitty old man now" thing.

Too bad he couldn't have cut a bunch of pages out of the story and gotten here a lot fucking quicker than he did.

Also bad: This probably won't result in any actual character change for Zig Zag, despite this being a good moment for her to grow as a person and move beyond being what she was before kissing Endora.

Furrynomous 2025/11/23 19:40:55 No.2521057

>>2518363
>That could have been the therapeutic take-away for this - the last time Zig saw him he was the monster in her life, and now he's been reduced to a worm...
>>2521038

Called it! Not that it was difficult, it's pretty much a cliche. And it could have been done in half the page count with paced-for-drama dialogue, not this creepy shit.

Furrynomous 2025/11/23 21:44:07 No.2521085

>>2521038
Well at least Eric has enough self-awareness to know how much of a bad idea it would've been to actually make the nameless father of Zig Zag a sympathetic man. Now if only he actually made the conversation between him and Zig sound like it instead of giving us what we had to sit through for a couple of months.

Furrynomous 2025/11/24 04:59:48 No.2521152

>>2521038
Now where was the cathartic attitude during that whole conversation?

Furrynomous 2025/11/24 06:30:44 No.2521208

>>2521085
Intentionally or not, he came as close to being a child rapist's advocate as you can without being cancelled. Even so, I'm willing to bet this arc lost him readers. Now he has to salvage it and the first step will be avoiding doing something creepy with an underage girl's second visit to a porn studio. Not exactly 'easy mode'...

Furrynomous 2025/11/24 07:12:37 No.2521216

>>2521038
Too bad all that self revelation and catharsis is gonna be weird to think about if not relevant in the upcoming FAD comic with her and Helen.

Edited at 2025/11/24 07:16:02

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 01:03:41 No.2524409

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>>2521038

>Putting this one back into storage.

Edited at 2025/12/11 05:20:08

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 01:15:42 No.2524412

>>2524409
>I'm not looking for sympathy
But Eric is still trying to actually make people feel a little sympathy for him anyway. Fucking awful.

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 02:28:26 No.2524420

funny enough i can understand that point of view. it happens once i was with someone, just for two months, she got involve with me out of pity, not love, once i confront her she leaves without a word. it was more painfull at the end when you look back. how would you feel about that? anyone?

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 03:21:35 No.2524433

>>2524420

While I feel sorry for your situation, let's not forget in his case he was a abuser who not only beat his wife, and even attacked a police officer when he was confronted, he literally raped his own daughter when she was still a minor;

This whole segment was a poorly-made catharsis that could've very well be resolved by cutting nearly all the pages between her visiting him in prison and the back at the hotel one, and then we go back to this one all "please feel sorry for the disgusting criminal asshole";

If Eric thought this would somehow benefit ZZ's whole catharsis, this only made it even more forced and also filled it with a pity-party for someone who doesn't deserve it

Edited at 2025/12/05 03:22:32

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 05:04:11 No.2524451

>>2524433
>this only made it even more forced and also filled it with a pity-party for someone who doesn't deserve it
Yeah, if you're trying to milk pity for a character, the most cliche line he's going to have is the self-deprecating "I don't deserve pity...".
Fuck it, I'm done with Eric. All he had to do was walk away from this POS arc and move on, but he only made it one page.

New video from Eric... Furrynomous 2025/12/05 05:23:16 No.2524456

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Cute video with his singing Amiga.

https://youtu.be/w7xGEPO1hws

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 06:31:38 No.2524473

>>2524409
Obvious damage control is obvious...
If he "wanted his daughter to hate him" he could have just said "I have nothing to say to you, whore..." and walked out. Instead we got a "child rape builds character!" arc that Eric is now trying to back-track from. So even the initial angle of her dad being a villain with dialogue too poorly paced to make a villain confrontation work is out.

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 07:27:42 No.2524478

>>2524456
Bro. It's 2025. Nobody but tech geeks like him care about these old ass computers. Go back to making animated shorts with your characters already instead of this.

Edited at 2025/12/05 07:28:33

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 07:36:47 No.2524479

>>2524409
Sometimes I got to wonder what anyone outside of here thinks of this whole story arc in a nutshell. There's no straightforward tone, character behavior changes on a whim, the whole plot feels too safe and too disinterested in itself to take anything they presented seriously, and when they do it's far too late to begin with, and I just want this storyline to end so we can go back to poorly aged slice-of-life humor.

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 18:31:33 No.2524677

>>2524479
To answer your question, my wife has been a regular reader for years, and she thought every single page of this was dogshit.

Furrynomous 2025/12/05 23:39:25 No.2524788

>>2524677
Well, your wife definitely has some proper tastes.

Furrynomous 2025/12/06 02:25:35 No.2524824

>>2524479
I couldn't imagine trying to show this comic to anyone with normal sensibilities and tastes.

Furrynomous 2025/12/06 03:09:06 No.2524835

>>2524677
>>2524824

That's weird because I mentioned this story to someone else and they thought this was better than any of Rick Griffin's writing. They thought the fact we got to meet Zig Zag's mother and father was the best part.

Edited at 2025/12/06 20:43:32

Furrynomous 2025/12/06 15:59:46 No.2524990

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>>2524835

Furrynomous 2025/12/06 18:07:06 No.2525007

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>>2524835

Furrynomous 2025/12/07 00:55:44 No.2525109

>>2524456
I'm glad he feels accomplished with this homage. I'm surprised this took a year to make.

I have a feeling someone could have knocked this out in a month using blender on a modern computer. I've never animated or rendered anything, so what the hell do I know? Tell me if I'm wrong.

I suppose an Amiga tribute *has* to be made on an Amiga for authenticity (it was emulated but still). That requirement almost certainly made this take way more time and effort than it would otherwise. To me it shows the value of keeping up with what others are using to create art.

Call me entitled but I'm disappointed. This project was so time consuming that none of his patrons got drawing rewards in '25. By extension none of us got to see that new art either. None of those patrons have said anything or dropped support. Which sucks because he's probably learned that he doesn't need to offer top tier patrons four drawing requests a year. Now it'll probably be one black and white sketch once every 9 months.

Ugh. It sucks to be a fan of someone that has the skill and work ethic it takes to produce so much more than the notable and most popular furry artists of today, but doesn't because he sticks to his old workflow.

Rant over.

Furrynomous 2025/12/12 03:32:16 No.2526646

>>2521038
>>2524409

If Eric wanted us to feel bad about Zig's father, why even write that entire prison visit the way he did? In fact, why even have him in prison seemingly not giving two shits about his daughter's anger towards him? Was this really a part of his self-harming "I don't deserve forgiveness" angle? Because it surely didn't feel like that at all. If he wanted the readers to treat this as a not so black-and-white mentality, actually write him as more of a reclusive loner in capable of holding onto a job or something. Not some prison rat who'll sooner rot than change while still regretting his actions in the past.

It's like Eric wrote one thing, realized it made no sense for what's supposed to be a serious encounter, and retroactively changed courses slightly.

Cornchowder 2025/12/12 07:04:56 No.2526677

>>2525109
Don't tell me he actually animated that with an Amiga?

Furrynomous 2025/12/14 10:44:22 No.2527676

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>>2524409

>Gotta watch out for those 'unresolved feelings'!

Edited at 2025/12/25 02:05:04

Furrynomous 2025/12/14 14:56:11 No.2527774

Is it wrong I'd rather see EWS draw that last panel more than any more of this?

Furrynomous 2025/12/14 15:10:51 No.2527778

>>2527774
On the contrary - that's the most correct thing anyone has said about this comic since it started.

Furrynomous 2025/12/14 20:54:18 No.2527878

>>2527676

Maybe Zig will now go on an apology tour as she did with her vengeance tour. If it leads to her showing up at the fox boy's house, whose name escapes me, and offering herself to him to make up for sleeping with his mother. Then all will be forgiven.

Furrynomous 2025/12/14 21:06:10 No.2527879

>>2527878
I doubt he'd ever draw that (or consider drawing that), so if anyone could do it with genAI or whatever, I'd be down for that. Better than nothing, at least.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 04:53:12 No.2527942

>>2527878
Not even close. Helen's (the boy's mom) comic won the poll, and it's going to be about her porn debut. The New and Improved ZigZag's literally going to throw a bunch of guys at her, film the whole thing and the boy's going to have an interesting time when all of his friends have seen his mom get gangbanged...

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 09:38:45 No.2527977

You guys really need to learn how to draw your own versions of events.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 15:23:12 No.2528023

>>2527942
Last Helen and ZZ meet, Bobby was 17. New upcoming comic says he’s 18 now, so pretty sure it’ll take place years before “stripes and links”.
Which now that I think about it probably makes this all the more worse, considering that EWS is now bringing up an issue that’s somewhat related to ZZ’s current revelation. Just makes her look all the more hypocritical.

Edited at 2025/12/15 15:25:18

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 18:58:28 No.2528053

>>2528023
In the comic I hope we get to see Bobby and Tabitha interact, I think they'd be at each others throats with Tabi getting off some good insults on Bobby while his mom's getting gangbanged.

Fan content wise, Bobby and Tabitha existing in the same comic can lead to some works where Bobby gets some revenge on Zig by going after Tabitha.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 19:59:12 No.2528071

>>2528053
How old do you think Tabitha is in the current comic? Because despite everything EWS has written and drawn since starting his Patreon accounts, I doubt even he would draw her at the age she's at now - maybe 13, probably younger - being hit on by, or even having sex with, an 18-year-old boy she doesn't even know.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 20:15:02 No.2528074

Helen goes with Zig to the studio, gets gangbanged. But unbeknownst to her, Bobby followed and slipped in with the group, and bangs his own mom to get back at Zig. He busts his nut then walks up to Zig Zag and whispers in her ear, "I bang my mom." Afterwards, he turns and struts out. That would be a flex that would probably leave Zig there flabbergasted and horny.

Edited at 2025/12/15 22:29:43

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 20:38:15 No.2528082

>>2528074
That's even worse than the "Bobby hits on Tabitha" idea.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 20:52:11 No.2528084

>>2527878
>>2527879
>>2528053
This guy seems to have the right idea for Bob; https://www.furaffinity.net/view/63304841/

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 21:10:46 No.2528088

>>2528071
That's why I said fan content wise, obviously EWS wouldn't do anything like that but just them interacting together could be fuel to the fan fire.

The two of them interacting in the comic if it happens should be good though, Tabitha would know how to twist the knife if Bobby gets dragged into the studio.

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 22:38:50 No.2528105

>>2528082

Well, we've seen how lonely Zig's mom is. Maybe Bobby can hunt down Zig's momma and seduce the old gal into bed. Then send a pic of them together to Zig, saying, "I banged your mom."

Furrynomous 2025/12/15 23:23:36 No.2528113

>>2528105
That's better-ish, but not by much.

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 01:40:08 No.2528134

Ok, what is it that makes people hate Bobby so much?

He bad-mouthed a porn actress on an internet message board. And by all accounts, it was relatively tame. There's no indication he said anything racist/speciest or made threats against her or the other ladies at the studio.

Considering what people post on YouTube these days, he did the equivalent of saying "Megan Fox is a shitty actress".

Stuff like making him a p-XXX or Chris-Chan just seems like you want an excuse to hate a fictional character while not coming across as a hypocrite.

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 02:22:24 No.2528196

>>2528134
Not sure, especially considering how much people on here seem to dislike Zig-Zag.

I think he's just an immature troll that got one upped by Zig and that's it, I don't think they need like an on-going rivalry, but it will be fun to see him squirm a bit if he has a minor role in the new comic.

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 02:29:56 No.2528205

>>2528134
To quote Rick Sanchez, “Everyone wants people they like to be right. That’s why popular people are f#%@ing dumb.” People like ZigZag and Helen cause they got the goods, whereas Bobby’s got nothing despite all justifications. It’s kinda like how fans call Octavia a spoiled brat for not forgiving Stolas, even though she has every right not to.

Edited at 2025/12/16 02:32:20

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 02:31:44 No.2528206

>>2528134

People don't hate on Bobby. They hate on Zig Zag for doing what she did to Bobby, and to a lesser extent, his mother for going along with it. Then, with EWS, continue trolling Bobby with various images he's made over the years. People have felt it was rather petty of Zig to take it to that level. After all, he was a minour, so she could just beat him up as she did to all those others in her "Revenge Tour". So, she fucked his mother and bragged about it to his face. Now days, people just want Bobby to get even with her.

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 14:01:11 No.2528342

>>2528206
Those people are fucking stupid.

Bobby exists to be a fucking punchline, like how a bunch of furry characters - like Helen Dish and, to a broad extent, Zig Zag - exist to be spank material. Even if they do have actual personalities and such, the fact of the matter is that most furry OCs are generally going to be one-dimensional if the primary purpose of their existence is "masturbation aid" or "modern-day court jester".

I get why people feel the way they do. They're not wrong to think what they do, in terms of morality and such. ZZ traumatized him by fucking his mom and bragging about it; that was a shit thing for her to do. But beyond the fact that Bobby is an 18-year-old who presumably lives an otherwise normal middle-class life and would therefore lack the material resources to get revenge in the same way Zig Zag could, *they're all fictional characters* and the whole point of Bobby and Helen even being a thing in the first place was to set up a punchline for a bad joke in a comic strip should be the first thing that comes to mind whenever you think about either character. So ZZ fucked Helen and traumatized Bobby about it - so fucking what? There's thousands of stories and comics you can go read instead of the one EWS is about to do about Helen at ZZ Studios. Why get all hung up over this one gag character when you can go get hung up on a character with some actual depth?

And YES, pot-kettle-black situation here. But the difference between the people obsessing over Bobby and my own semi-obsessive criticisms of this comic's "we gotta hear ZZ's dad out" arc is that I have the dangling nutsack necessary to admit I'm stupid as hell. What's their excuse?

Furrynomous 2025/12/16 23:59:52 No.2528468

>>2528342

Guess people just like to root for the underdog. And compared to Zig, Bobby does come off a bit more sympathetic. But that's probably due to EWS' terrible handling of characters and their plots.

Like you mentioned about Zig's father. People wanted to see her confront him. Then EWS goes about trying to make him come off as him being just a pathetic loser, yet he writes the character as if we're almost supposed to be sympathetic to him. Just the cherry on top of his inconsistent writing and inability to really handle heavy topics.

Furrynomous 2025/12/17 01:52:34 No.2528526

>>2527676
k what is that thing on the lynx's face? I always assumed they were sunglasses but in these angles you'd assume they'd slump off or something.

Furrynomous 2025/12/17 01:56:03 No.2528527

>>2528526
They're sunglasses. Lore goes that she has some kind of issue with bright lights (I forget exactly what), so she keeps them on almost all the time.

Furrynomous 2025/12/21 22:45:22 No.2530060

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So, Eric posted this year's Christmas picture from Sabrina Online and... yeah I can't even anymore

Furrynomous 2025/12/21 22:59:43 No.2530062

>>2530060
Holy fuck seriously? He could have done anything else. Could have done Warren and Endora either kissing under the mistletoe after Warren promises to try and be more present in their relationship, or could have just had Tina cradling Zig falling asleep in her arms after such a daunting family trip.

This is like him trying to give the mugger who stabbed Sabrina some sort of deeper insight.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 00:39:19 No.2530099

>>2530060
Just when I thought he really couldn't sink any lower, he goes and does this. Man, this almost makes the gangrape in the first Jane Cottontail comic seem quaint in comparison. (Almost.) Jesus, Eric, did you visit Epstein Island or some shit?

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 05:06:52 No.2530156

>>2530060
Fuck, this has got to be Eric's call for help. The guy has a photo of the daughter (and possibly wife) he used to rape next to a poster he spanks it to? And that's Eric's Christmas-card strip?
This whole arc has been him fast-forwarding through Zig's siblings and mom so he could get to the clumsy child-rapist apologetics part, and he's still not letting it go?

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 05:53:03 No.2530161

>>2530156
As much as I'm worried about EWS and his decision to focus so much attention on ZZ's dad, I'm more worried about the people who actually *like* what Eric did with this. They see Eric writing a strip that tries to generate sympathy (or at least pity) a wife-beating daughter-raping alcoholic shithead and they *approve* of it, to the point where Eric not only did an extra page with him to generate more pity for him, but made him the focus of an annual Christmas illustration for a reason that can never be described as "good". What the actual fuck.

Exploring ZZ's past and showing her dad in some way wasn't a bad idea. It's the execution that matters. And if this were Burger King and I could have it my way, I would anthropomorphize this specific Sabrina Online comic so I could have it executed by firing squad.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 05:55:59 No.2530162

>>2530062
Or he could have had ZigZag's mom reconnecting with her kids and parents for the holidays. Or transformers or... literally *anyhting* other than this!

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 06:46:18 No.2530170

>>2530161
I'm calling it now - Eric's gonna keep beating this dead horse. Soon enough ZigZag will feel that her dad could change, she's gonna try and get him paroled, write letters or more likely trade sex for favors like that creepy-ass scene at the bar (most likely with an old/fat/smelly male because that's Eic's kink these days). Then he's gonna have both ZigZag and her mom *appologize* to this guy who worked so hard to support them and they weren't there whan he needed them or some shit. What then - a porn comic with Zig and her dad "reliving old times"? Maybe Tina gets involved? Will they film and sell it? I know, sounds like ridiculously bad taste, but a year ago so did a Christmas card with a child rapist.
What does the room say - how low will Eric go? Because every time I think he's hit rock-bottom he finds a new level of just plain wrong...

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 08:33:01 No.2530183

>>2530170

Hey, if that's where Eric takes it, I'm on board. This ship's sinking, the train has derailed, and now we get to watch the house burn. Bust out the weenies, it's gonna be a good roast.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 09:27:46 No.2530198

>>2530060
Alcor's Patreon got shut down without warning because a comical pic of his character getting pantsed (to show her hyper-nedy undies) was deemed as "Glorification of rape".
Yet Eric does a whole arc of actually trivializing child rape ("you had big tits, you were asking for it!") and even does a child-rapist Christmas card and nothing?
Fuck, maybe his Patreon is actually a police honeypot and they're trying to lure in creeps?

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 10:00:56 No.2530204

>>2530198
Are you so internet brain-rotted you don't see the difference? I don't agree with it, mind you, but the picture in question was jerk-off material. Eric's shit is just bad writing. Key difference? One is jerk-off material, the other isn't.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 10:13:13 No.2530206

I GET what EWS is trying to do here.
Call back to last year's Christmas strip with Zig Zag holding the same photo, etc. (good lord, has this arc been running this long?!)

But damn, man. Like everyone else said it's really creepy how he wants us to feel bad for this guy.

Despite what the comic tried to say, he's not a tragic type of criminal. No one FORCED him to do what he did. He made his choices and now has to actually deal with the consequences.

And no, including a poster of Tina in her prime is NOT a funny little in-joke or whatever.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 11:11:19 No.2530210

>>2530206
>Like everyone else said it's really creepy how he wants us to feel bad for this guy.
A sure sign that the author is trying to milk sympathy for a character is that character having a line like "I don't deserve sympathy.".

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 11:33:55 No.2530212

>>2530204
Jerk-off meterial is relative. For some people, a close-up of feet is jerk-off material.
But unless there is a nude alt I'm not aware of, Alcor's pic showed a girl with her panties exposed. I got a laugh out of that because she was wearing Cadia-green boyshorts with 40k logos all over it.
Eric's Christmas card, by contrast, features a poster of Tina buck-ASS-naked that Zig's dad taped to the wall. So that he could look at it while he jerks off. Y'know, litteral jerk-off material.
So yeah - a convicted incestous child rapist looking at either his family or a porn-star (or both) while he spanks it. Talk about dreaming of a white Christmas...
PATREON APPROVED!

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 11:49:27 No.2530216

It's creepier when you realize one photo features his family AND a porn star.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 13:18:04 No.2530227

>>2530170
>how low will Eric go?
He had Jane Cottontail gangraped, he had Chiropterana effectively blackmailed into performing a sex act, he wrote a story-within-a-story about a girl being tentacle raped (including "all the way through" penetration), and he made what can only be described as "sex-crazed Tribbles". At this point, even Naylor's crazy-ass bullshit is less off-putting than whatever it is Eric's been going through the past few years. At least with Naylor, you know what kind of hell you're getting; with Eric, there's a new circle of hell waiting for you somewhere that he hasn't yet pushed you into.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 13:31:02 No.2530228

>>2530206
The callback would have been so much more meaningful if he showed Zig looking at a selfie of her with her siblings and grandparents and/or her mom. It would have shown her (a character people actually care about even though she is kinda highjacking *Sabrina* online at this point) reflecting on the progress she'd made in this arc.
Instead he chose to focus on an un-named scumbag who no one wants to see and who (to any sane person) is beyond redemption.
And to end a year of Sabrina Online without Sabrina, or even any of the main cast...

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 13:36:51 No.2530230

At least with Naylor, it's mostly just political BS.

EWS has basically gone all "Family Guy" with his material. i.e. He'll do a bunch of gags centered around rape, abuse, etc. Then use his "clean" comic to lecture the audience about why those things AREN'T funny in the most confused, half-assed way imaginable.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 13:46:04 No.2530233

>>2509749
>>2524409

I think her parents are named "Ellie" and "Ray".

Not sure if those are supposed to be references or shout-outs to something. Feels like they would.

Furrynomous 2025/12/22 16:18:53 No.2530259

>>2530162
This arc has been so dizzying and confusing that I actually already blanked on her mom and the kids. He could have absolutely done something involving them having a fragile but attempted reconnection.

If we wanted to just get away from all of this could have had Tabitha and Danielle dressed up for the holidays sitting next to each other but also heads down and focused on their phones, simple and cute.

Furrynomous 2025/12/23 19:53:17 No.2530568

>>2530259
Well, if it makes y'all feel any better, this guy got an alternate version of "stripes and links" that seems a bit real. Artwork could could've be better, but I'm liking it.
https://alternate-links.thecomicseries.com/

Furrynomous 2025/12/23 20:22:26 No.2530576

>>2530568
If the writing is supposed to be better, the artwork doesn't make me want to stick around and find out.

Furrynomous 2025/12/24 00:02:53 No.2530650

While not as detailed as the actual series, the artist at least adds variety in panel count, composition, framing, pacing etc.

It's not just months of two or three characters sitting at a table having a back and forth, shot-reverse shot conversation. And the pages don't try to force in a punchline at the end either.

Best of all, the other characters aren't constantly validating Zig Zag's actions. They actually take the time to call her out on her BS.

Furrynomous 2025/12/24 18:58:17 No.2530807

>>2528468
Kinda counterintuitive that he writes ZZ’s dad as a pathetic loser that we’re suppose to pity, but we really show hatred for. Only to make an FAD comic canon to SO, where a kid is being ridiculed and mocked that we’re suppose to hate, but we really show pity for.
>Best of all, the other characters aren't constantly validating Zig Zag's actions. They actually take the time to call her out on her BS.
Just goes to show how much EWS fawns over ZZ.

Edited at 2025/12/24 19:13:42

Furrynomous 2025/12/25 00:46:49 No.2530942

>>2530650
I can't say it's perfect, it borders on being a melodramatic piece, but it is more of what a reader who likes the original source should've been given instead of having to make multiple excuses for why this means anything to them. It's not asking too much, just for characters to have actual agency and objections that aren't filled with compliments about how "epic and cool Zig Zag is" just because she was one of many then popular furry characters on the early internet.

Furrynomous 2025/12/25 03:06:53 No.2530978

>>2530807
I don't think people are meant to "hate" Bobby, so much as they're supposed to think he was being a dumbass by fucking around and leaving those mean comments about Zig Zag. He didn't think he was going to find out by way of ZZ fucking his mom. You seem to be projecting way too fucking much about this one particular character, in that you're standing up for him so often - and with a level of fervor that I've reserved for Eric's decision to portray a child rapist in a sympathetic light - that it feels like you took what is supposed to be a character meant only to be a punchline for a bad joke and turned him into a martyr of/patron saint for your own personal (and possibly incel-adjacent) bullshit.

Furrynomous 2025/12/26 11:42:29 No.2531241

>>2530942

Fair points.
I wasn't suggesting the original had to be DEVOID of jokes.

But as several people have said, often EWS will cram in a sassy remark or something in the last panel because it HAS to end on a punchline. Because that's what newspaper comics do, right?

Furrynomous 2025/12/26 11:50:57 No.2531242

>>2531241
Shit's not even a newspaper comic anymore, yet Eric is too stuck in it to get away from that format. At this point, it all is and has came back to a sheer unwillingness to ever change or evolve in his work.

Furrynomous 2025/12/26 11:56:06 No.2531244

>>2531242
We're talking about someone who still insists on using an Amiga and whose website says that it's best viewed in an 800x600 resolution. You know, the one that was replaced by 1024x768 which has itself gone the way of the dinosaur?

Furrynomous 2025/12/26 13:05:03 No.2531251

>>2531244
It also doesn't help that he seemingly surrounds himself with lickspittle. When he uploaded that holiday image on FA, he instantly got a load of praise from people who make it quite obvious that they haven't read the comic lately.

Furrynomous 2025/12/26 20:06:21 No.2531337

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>>2531251
Thought you'd be kidding but there's literally one guy in the whole comment thread that didn't call this junk absolute cinema.

Furrynomous 2025/12/28 13:47:28 No.2532015

Ironically, I think that's the guy who made the AI models for Zig's sister and grandmother.

Furrynomous 2025/12/29 04:13:58 No.2532235

Is the strip "Stripes and Lynx" over?

If not, where would Zig and Tina head next?
Tina's relatives?

Furrynomous 2025/12/29 06:43:30 No.2532266

>>2532235
Don't think it's over quite yet. Tina still had that renter and landlord dispute at the beginning that I'm sure will be dropped.
https://www.sabrina-online.com/pages/SO-SNL-06.jpg

More than likely I could see Endora finally letting Zig see her, either for a more personal apology at home or maybe just them reuniting at the bar.

Furrynomous 2025/12/29 18:12:55 No.2532405

>>2532266
Eh, odds are Tina's deal is gonna be solved by ZZ beating or banging the landlord.

Furrynomous 2025/12/29 20:04:31 No.2532450

>>2532405
Yeah, but she'll call him "daddy" while she does it, to emphasize how much she's grown as a character during this arc.

Furrynomous 2025/12/30 02:38:06 No.2532541

>>2532450
……how the hell does THAT show her character growth?

Furrynomous 2025/12/30 03:20:14 No.2532542

I believe they're being sarcastic.

Furrynomous 2025/12/30 04:01:41 No.2532546

>>2532542
Plain text doesn't get across sarcasm.

Furrynomous 2025/12/30 07:00:04 No.2532576

>>2532542
I was, but to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised anymore. After the child-rapist Christmas card, I honesty doubt Eric is still 100% sane, so who knows?

Furrynomous 2025/12/31 05:20:00 No.2532867

This storyline highlights everything wrong with this continuation: there's no point in it existing.

There has been nothing of value brought on from this comic still going after Baby Steps and it continues to just keep running in place. Each story is paced worse than the last and the one interesting thing this arc opened up with gave up on its tone so early on. Now it's just offensive to read for most who aren't thrilled by the "extended lore" with Zig Zag's childhood.

Furrynomous 2025/12/31 18:00:34 No.2532939

>>2532867
Yeah. The fact that someone decided to make a fan comic on this arc only is a big indicator on how much it sucks.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 02:33:06 No.2533035

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>>2527676

Son wake up, is time for more train crash watching. Also

>That escalated pretty fast between the last page and this one.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 06:43:58 No.2533133

>>2533035
Again. More ass kissing in both terms of grammar.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 09:01:15 No.2533165

>>2533035
>You keep going after 'Forbidden Fruits'

The fact Zig went on this trip to arrive at an obvious problem yet still doesn't seem to understand this problem herself despite meeting her father who re-confirms everything wrong with him doesn't make sense as a reveal or a conclusion. We've all known Zig Zag has a weird fixation on prudish people like Sabrina and Endora to a mostly unhealthy degree, especially Sabrina, so why are they still acting so casual about dropping it now? Either have the character trying to reflect on their past actions as something wrong and in need to actually work to not repeat it in the future or piss off.

This constant need to protect and validate a character while making light jokes about their actions no matter what just keeps showing how much Eric just wanted to draw his wife without having to paint her in anything negative.

She's just the victim no matter the circumstances she puts herself in.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 10:34:30 No.2533170

>>2533035

"Forbidden fruits," Zig is her father's daughter. Guess the old bastard had a point in all that dribble he spouted.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 11:45:23 No.2533174

Why hasn’t Tina taken her sunglasses off yet?
Can’t they lower the light in the room?

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 14:22:46 No.2533186

I wouldn't call Sabrina or Endora "forbidden fruit".
I thought the gag was that Zig likes to screw with prudes and "normies".

And it's really sad how EWS has reduced Tina and the rest of the cast to basically Zig Zag's cheer squad.

Edited at 2026/01/02 00:23:56

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 22:04:58 No.2533283

>>2533186
Maybe not Endora, but she definitely looks at Sabrina with more importance. She started off just messing with her but she did get very defensive of her pretty early on and I think her and her therapist even talked about how she thought that Sabrina was a "one that got away" situation when she finally got married.

Furrynomous 2026/01/01 22:09:23 No.2533285

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>>2533035

>Once more flashing to the back.

Cornchowder 2026/01/02 01:47:15 No.2533313

I kinda wish EWS had kept the comic period, instead of the floating timeline. But back in the 90s, I imagine a porn studio could be a lot more successful, because people still had to walk into a shop and buy it on VHS. But nowadays all that stuff is free online. I'm surprised ZZ isn't doing podcasts and stuff to keep her business going well.

Furrynomous 2026/01/02 02:01:43 No.2533314

>>2533313
They've established that growing lack of home video sales years ago and started doing cam videos and recently V-tubing to stay afloat.

Furrynomous 2026/01/02 02:24:20 No.2533316

>>2533313
I'd pay to see an arc where she fights a losing battle against genAI. Considering porn has been a dumping ground for it.

Furrynomous 2026/01/02 04:26:31 No.2533358

>>2533316

You mean when Sabrina discovers Zig Zag has been using genAI and deep-faking porn of her?

Furrynomous 2026/01/02 05:29:48 No.2533368

>>2533358
More like ZZ trying to sue AI companies, and their clients, for using her, and her employees, likeness.

The whole ZZ using genAI for her personal fantasies of Sabrina? Eh, if ZZ making a silicon replica of her ass, and tongue wrestling her mother barely phases her, I doubt AI art of her and ZZ will have any effect on her.

Edited at 2026/01/02 05:35:00

Cornchowder 2026/01/02 07:09:32 No.2533399

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Furrynomous 2026/01/02 09:39:14 No.2533439

>>2533285
I assumed we were done with the flashbacks after the two bought the warehouse. None of these flashbacks really do anything to expand on information readers already parsed from old fanfics to this comic itself.

Furrynomous 2026/01/02 10:42:42 No.2533448

You know, instead of spending months trying to make the audience sympathize with a drunken, wife-beating, incestuous creep, EWS COULD have focused on explaining who those other people are in the flashback.

Furrynomous 2026/01/03 00:34:19 No.2533657

>>2533285
>last panel
I wish this comic was as toony and exaggerated like the old strips.

Furrynomous 2026/01/03 04:00:42 No.2533677

>>2533657
Yeah, EWS's style has degraded a bit. Not much, but somewhat noticeable.

Furrynomous 2026/01/16 03:08:08 No.2537202

Is there a new page at all?

Furrynomous 2026/01/16 04:57:58 No.2537217

It's been out on Patreon for five days, yeah.

Cornchowder 2026/01/18 03:52:18 No.2537697

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Furrynomous 2026/01/18 05:48:53 No.2537714

>>2537217
Maybe you could hook us up with it?

Furrynomous 2026/01/18 13:30:26 No.2537818

>>2537714
I don't have access to locked Patreon posts unless someone gets them up on Kemono. If you want them badly enough, go get them yourself.

Furrynomous 2026/01/18 23:05:05 No.2537979

>>2537697

This is an Eric Schwartz original, that was altered in the 3o years since i came out.

Furrynomous 2026/01/22 08:44:50 No.2538103

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>>2533285
>From a temporary to a more permanent arrangement.

Look, it's more of the same. What was said two pages ago applies here.

Furrynomous 2026/01/22 11:43:31 No.2538138

Geez. There’s no conflict at all here.
What’s even the point of this whole arc? Other than to drive home how awesome and wonderful Zig Zag is for the billionth time?

Furrynomous 2026/01/23 13:37:28 No.2538587

Eric must of ran out of ways to suck off Zig Zag as the next page seems to jump back to Sabrina as Zig Zag and Tina finally come back from their trip.

Furrynomous 2026/01/25 22:28:36 No.2539430

I'm trying not to be too negative but I really just want this story to end.

Are we sure Eric's doing the Helen in the studio story after this? Wish we got more Sabrina and her family before we go back to another Zig focused story.

Furrynomous 2026/01/25 22:49:53 No.2539440

>>2539430
The Helen Dish comic isn't the next Sabrina Online arc, but I believe it is the next porn comic he's working on through his ES Productions account on Patreon. The first page of that one, "Adventure Comes to Town", is already up on that specific account.

Furrynomous 2026/01/26 03:16:34 No.2539496

>>2539430
>>2539440
Think it’s safe to say that the only characters from ZZ Studios that'll ever have any story arc in Sabrina Online is ZZ herself, the rest of the crew is just fap material for FAD, and cameos for SO. And, honestly Helen seems like a character that wouldn’t fit nowhere else but a porn comic. If EWS gave her an arc in SO, it’d be just as frustratingly absurd and controversial as any of ZZ’s arcs.

Furrynomous 2026/01/26 21:51:38 No.2539730

>>2539440
>>2539496

Mind you, Helen Dish appears in my 'SO' story after she's given property her former husband inherited from a deceased client.
The story at first starts with the Double Z Studio staff doing the property as a fixer-upper, with "Home Improvement" and "3 Stooges" slapstick, then it turns into a parody of "Home Alone"-esque traps for a gang of thieves and ends up as a take from the chase scene from "The Great St. Trinian's Train Robbery" a mystery is uncovered on Helen's property - along with a missing bank raid haul AND a lost steam locomotive...

Furrynomous 2026/01/27 03:55:12 No.2539792

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>>2538103

Furrynomous 2026/01/28 02:20:37 No.2540034

>>2539730
And this story where?

Furrynomous 2026/01/28 03:09:21 No.2540044

>>2539792
Again with the Shelia bashing. Seriously, what she do wrong?

Furrynomous 2026/01/28 06:24:35 No.2540088

>>2540044
Another one of Erics great new ideas. We've had a pitty-party for a gaslighting childrapist, now we're watching an actually beloved character smile while she's get sh*t on.

Furrynomous 2026/01/28 08:45:01 No.2540124

>>2539792
>>2540044
>>2540088

Shelia is just forever stuck in the blonde bimbo category for the rest of her life. Not allowed to grow or be an actual character. You all should already know why she's always the punching bag of the ZZ studio members and Sabrina.

Man I would've killed to just spend the rest of the story in the studio than with Zig Zag and Tina.

Furrynomous 2026/02/03 05:10:29 No.2541878

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>>2539792

Furrynomous 2026/02/03 07:19:23 No.2541908

>>2541878

Ha ha, the ol' "I've seen the error of my ways. And I'll try to be good. But don't count on it."

Guess Zig Zag just can't change. If she did, then where would all this riveting side content come from?

Furrynomous 2026/02/03 08:58:19 No.2541936

>>2541878
Why does everyone keep doing this; suddenly entering the Yappolympics in dumping larger batches of monologue over their own feelings for themselves or each other? Because it's obviously not deep, the characters aren't going to retain the lessons outside of these very specific moments, and nobody outside the most die hard and overly loyal of fans will find this peak writing.

This is apparently where the "Sabrina and Zig Zag have a deep understanding of each other" comes from and I'm still unconvinced it's fully believable.

Furrynomous 2026/02/03 10:42:47 No.2542021

>>2541908

>Ha ha, the ol' "I've seen the error of my ways. And I'll try to be good. But don't count on it."

That was something my last work place gave me after I'd been there for just a week - only THEY were the ones who were the "don't count on it" - and all because I went that extra mile towards customer satisfaction...only to get FALSELY accused of touching someone's face, when it was no more than pulling-a-coin-out-of-the-ear trick - completely harmless.
Every other place would've accepted that, but not THEM...and they worked for a venue that was all about Christmas magic and make-belief...

...I'd seen the error of my ways and wanted to prove I could improve, but the guy in charge on the inquiry had already made his mind up. They then planned to put me in a no-gust-facing role, and yet nothing ever came up...

Furrynomous 2026/02/05 02:23:57 No.2542688

>>2541878
How many times has she came to the realization that aggressively teasing Sabrina with sexual undertones is bad?

Furrynomous 2026/02/05 22:58:42 No.2542888

Speaking of Zig Zag, she just got an animation by Kabangeh.

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 04:20:58 No.2544024

>>2542888
And is a reminder that Zig Zag does not look that great in 3D

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 04:48:01 No.2544030

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>>2541878

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 05:46:55 No.2544039

>>2544030
BHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!!! XDDD Oh, ZigZag...!

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 06:20:45 No.2544044

>>2544024
I think it's possible to do a 3D Zig Zag that doesn't look bad.

But it would take some heavy stylization to do it. I'm talking Spider-Verse levels of stylization. Generic 3D styling doesn't work for her.

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 08:03:41 No.2544054

>>2544030
>No one's all that sure how genuine that hug is.

I mean, why even bother? The author sure isn't convinced in his own writing.

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 10:17:01 No.2544087

>>2544030
>>2544039

And let's not forget that Endora makes Sabrina look like ZigZag...

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 12:15:55 No.2544095

>>2544030
I actually don't mind this page? Yeah Zig's going down the same path we've seen before but seems playful yet still sincere. Plus it does show off how far they've come that Sabrina's willing to bring up punching her.

Furrynomous 2026/02/10 14:09:01 No.2544112

>>2544087
Still the most wildest remark ever said.

Furrynomous 2026/02/14 16:04:46 No.2545039

Everyone keeps mentioning that Sabrina socked Zig Zag. They seem to forget that almost RIGHT AFTER that happened, Zig Zag climbed into bed with a sleeping Sabrina because she HAD to cuddle with someone to get real sleep. And Sabrina didn't kick Zig out of bed either. she apparently dream-made-out with her thinking it was R.C.

Not exactly a "relationship changer".

Furrynomous 2026/02/14 17:26:08 No.2545064

>>2545039

Yeah, people defending this friendship always pull out the decking scene as a weapon love to ignore the fact she's still too handsy and touchy with Sabrina. Unfortunately, that cuddling scene is more comedic, so nobody really mentions it.

Furrynomous 2026/02/14 17:33:38 No.2545065

Off topic: You know one missed opportunity of Adventures in Horde Sitting? Having Tabitha at least reflect a little on how much trouble she gave Sabrina in the past when she was the same age as Carli's kids, but times that by 13. Wouldn't be much, but it could be seen as another additional karma now that she's more aware of things at her age.

Furrynomous 2026/02/14 21:01:24 No.2545102

>>2545039
Between the family trauma and the overly casual nature of the studio, Zig Zag has far more deeper psychological issues than Eric is willing to write.

Furrynomous 2026/02/14 21:07:00 No.2545104

>>2544030
We're really not going to deep dive into that? How Zig's mother and grandma look like Sabrina and Endora respectively? It's just going to be a punchline?

Typical

Furrynomous 2026/02/18 23:53:40 No.2546010

>>2545039

You're asking for people to take the comic indifferent to consequences and contradictory actions to be honest with itself?

Furrynomous 2026/02/26 09:10:12 No.2548274

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>>2544030
>I guess we'll need to get back to Sabrina's mother sooner or later.

Furrynomous 2026/02/26 17:48:17 No.2548361

At this point, she doesn't even need to apologize anymore. Zig kissed a married woman, Endora's possibly bicurious, and she can't live without having a wild young friend in her life.

Everyone wins no matter what wrongs they commit! That's the true moral of the story here.

Furrynomous 2026/02/26 20:58:00 No.2548405

>>2548361
Doesn't anyone know how to write consequences anymore.

Furrynomous 2026/02/27 07:44:07 No.2548557

>>2548274
Sabrina's mom coming out of the closet moment.

Furrynomous 2026/03/03 15:50:03 No.2549856

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>>2548274

Furrynomous 2026/03/03 19:49:49 No.2549900

>>2549856
And here comes Tina to interrupt... does anyone know how many frames of Zig and Sabrina each standing in their own half of the gray void that is ZZ Studios exchanging speech bubbles?

Furrynomous 2026/03/03 20:15:01 No.2549903

>>2549900
It's at least 28 frames. So, you know, absolutely nothing but empty emotional resonance as usual.

Furrynomous 2026/03/03 23:55:35 No.2549927

It's been 10 years since the comic "ended" and the "revival" began... has a single thing happened that was as memorable as the first 10 years? Remember trying to get her Amiga online? Amy getting knocked up? "Sticky fingers?" Playing Quake at 10 FPS? Sabrina's new car? It used to be so comfy.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 00:35:36 No.2549931

>>2549927
"Sticky Fingers"?

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 00:45:53 No.2549932

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>>2549931

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 00:57:19 No.2549935

Dear god.
Could somebody please tell EWS he's not beholden to this 4-6 panel format? That he can change things around? Splash pages, close-ups, different angles. SOMETHING!

For a guy who claims to love comics and animation, he sure doesn't seem to UNDERSTAND them.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 01:23:59 No.2549937

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>>2549935

For example: here's Walt Kelly, from 1953. Schwartz could learn from Kelly's POGO, if he took the time to study its methods.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 03:03:47 No.2549973

>>2549927
There was Sabrina's actual pregnancy and giving birth. Even if most of it was rehashed from when Amy was pregnant.

Since then, not much. Heck, it's been months since we've even SEEN the kid.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 05:53:36 No.2550001

>>2549973
Yep just brought her around to her mom's place during her emotional crisis, pushed her towards her aunt and the punchline was video games on a phone. Hope we get more Danielle in the future, she's missing in action almost as much as Timmy.

>>2549932
How far we've come. Exciting first irl RC encounter on the horizon, some sexy keyboard romance before this panel, Timmy about to make his big appearance that would change the living space dynamic.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 06:30:17 No.2550005

I don't think there are any fans outside of diehards and Eric's patrons that even know or care much about Sabrina Online ever since 2016. I meet more users who have still not read the comic since 2012 who aren't notified of this comic's continuation, yet for some reason will still act like it's THE furry webcomic, as if everything else that came after it doesn't matter. Eric's just living off the fame at this point.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 06:44:51 No.2550010

>>2549973
I'm standing here and I still claiming the only other reason this comic is going is because Eric needs the money. Better webcomic artists know when to fold 'em after exhausting all possible stories they can tell with their old cast. Guy could've made a spin-off comic connected to the same verse, yet he chooses to continue this comic mainly because it's his most known project. This is latter day Simpsons but with less attempts to stay current and accepting of the changing times.

That baby may as well not exist with how little Eric seems to want to do with it. Timmy was active even if most of his gags revolved around torturing Sabrina's Transformers collection. Danielle is just there to be the Gen Z (or Gen Alpha) for this run. It's more perplexing she hasn't aged up in the 9 years she's been introduced to the cast.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 07:30:30 No.2550026

>>2550001
>>2550010
I blame the fact this comic won't stop introducing storylines. They don't develop the any of the characters and despite the format change are still written like longer Sunday strips. There's just not enough space for all of Eric's characters to have equal screentime and their own stories compared to two of his favorite waifus.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 08:17:24 No.2550030

>>2549935
>Could somebody please tell EWS he's not beholden to this 4-6 panel format? That he can change things around?
Is there any page in this thread except for the first one that isn't on an *identical* 2x6 grid? Not sure if lazy, or some kind of autistic obsession...

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 10:37:32 No.2550044

>>2550026
EWS has always had this problem, even during the original run. He wrote his comic like a daily newspaper strip. Yet he would upload 2-4 strips a month.

That meant a story that would take say, a week or two in a newspaper, would take him the better part of a year to finish.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 17:10:03 No.2550117

>>2550026
>>2550010
Like how did we not get any comics involving Danielle and the transformer figures? There was the brief one where they were looking at her sleeping, but I don't think there's been anything else after that right?

It would be very easy to have her interact with them just like her mother did, even if it was a dismissive Gen-Z joke like her being surprised that she'd have to actually move them or that they don't have a wifi function or something.

I am holding out hope that after this story he'll focus on something a bit more grounded and involving Sabrina and her immediate family.

Furrynomous 2026/03/04 23:29:56 No.2550162

Honestly, I wish he didn't.

Sorry. Between Carli and her kids, Helen on the other thread, and Zig Zag with her dad, I'm sort of burned out with EWS' half-assed attempts at "generational trauma" and whining about how parenthood sucks.

Dude, your generation sold out and grew up just like everyone else's. Deal with the fact not every woman wants to be Nina Hartley.

Furrynomous 2026/03/06 09:32:23 No.2550725

Maybe Eric should retire Sabrina Online, or just put it on an indefinite hiatus, and work on that Star Trek parody comic he's been trying to push. Put his energy into something else instead of this soon to be 30-year old webcomic.

Furrynomous 2026/03/06 17:58:00 No.2550762

>>2550725
I do get why some people are completely done with it but I still hold out hope that there can be some fun or interesting stories to do still.

I was a fan of Adventures in Horde Sitting, it did have a bit of that old fun and wacky spark, aside from the Carli selling out Tabitha just to get a night out kind premise.

Furrynomous 2026/03/06 18:27:42 No.2550765

>>2550762
>I still hold out hope that there can be some fun or interesting stories to do still
Even if there are such stories, EWS is not the person to write them. Illustrate them? Sure. But write them? Nah, I'm good. Besides, at this point, what stories would even be left to tell about Sabrina or Zig Zag that wouldn't feel like a retread of previous stories?

Furrynomous 2026/03/06 23:03:32 No.2550827

>>2550765
Roommate chaos with Tina and ZZ, business rivalry with another studio, the threat of AI taking over the industry, slice of life stories of the actors/actresses, getting Danielle off her phone/tablet, etc.

Furrynomous 2026/03/06 23:54:50 No.2550842

As it's been said before, it's not that there's a lack of stories you could tell with these characters. It's that EWS doesn't seem to care anymore.

Several of the subplots in this arc could have been emotional, hilarious or both.

Tina needs a new place to live: we find out about the stigma that comes with being in the sex industry for years. People won't sell to her. Or people in the neighborhood are WASP assholes. Some places are dumps. We learn she's got a nest-egg in the millions. Etc.

Sabrina being put in charge of the studio for a couple days: She gets to know the rest of the behind-the-scenes crew, learns it's not just "point a camera at two people screwing". She green-lights the type of movie SHE'D get off to, and everyone else thinks it sucks.

Stacey and Tracey's wedding COULD have been used to explain how these two strike a balance between being in a relationship vs. watching each have sex with different partners. Add more bits with Tracey's brother, talk about how LBGTQ attitudes have changed. Wacky Bachelorette Party antics.

Instead, EWS primarily just has them all sitting or standing around in a blank void having a word-balloon fight.

Furrynomous 2026/03/07 00:24:25 No.2550847

>>2550842
>Sabrina being put in charge of the studio for a couple days: She gets to know the rest of the behind-the-scenes crew, learns it's not just "point a camera at two people screwing". She green-lights the type of movie SHE'D get off to, and everyone else thinks it sucks.
I like this idea up until that last sentence. What I'd go with instead is Sabrina greenlighting a more romantic/softer porn scene that aligns with her tastes, but while SOME of the other studio regulars dislike it (including Sheila), Zig Zag sees potential in that direction and decides to let Sabrina script another scene like that. Sabrina consults with RC on the script, which leads to them acting out the whole scene - including the sex. Sabrina turns in the script the next day and, after a little needling, tells Zig Zag about her and RC acting it out. Zig Zag shoots the script down, but while she tells Sabrina the script doesn't "click" with her, ZZ privately reasons that no one could do it better than Sabrina, whom ZZ would never (at least these days) ask to perform on camera. She puts the script in a locked drawer for another day, but still considers filming more scenes that someone with tastes like Sabrina would enjoy.

EWS would never draw that story because he would NEVER sully his precious OC Donut Steel like that. But yeah, the idea is solid enough that it could be fleshed out into a short story or whatever. Shit, if I weren't so out of practice with my writing, I'd even give it a shot. But if anyone wants to take a stab at it, feel free.

Furrynomous 2026/03/07 11:30:11 No.2550917

>>2550842
>Tina needs a new place to live
>We learn she's got a nest-egg in the millions.
Come to think of it, it's weird that she can't afford to even rent. While she was a star she worked for a shitty studio so she probably didn't make serious money, but isn't she a partner/part-owner of ZZ Studios?

Furrynomous 2026/03/07 11:57:14 No.2550919

>>2550917
EWS is very inconsistent with how financially successful these characters are.

It's only confirmed that Zig Zag is richer than God despite her studio being such a seemingly small organization.

Everyone else lives in apartments in sketchy neighborhoods.

Furrynomous 2026/03/07 20:14:02 No.2551009

>>2550917
>>2550919

If everyone in the studio were as rich as Zig Zag was then her reputation as a Good Samaritan would hold less water if she didn't keep overpaying her favorite prude nor offering her not girlfriend/business partner a room to stay in. I mean, we couldn't go through any subplot without these characters talking about how much of a benevolent sex goddess she is even in "self-discovery" story like this.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 03:05:15 No.2551466

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>>2549856
>Circling back around to the start.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 03:18:54 No.2551472

>>2551466
Endora is a closet Bi-sexual, calling it.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 03:40:12 No.2551478

>>2551472
If that's true, I wish stories like this didn't go out of there way to triggered them from mild non-consensual means. This could've at least been a funnier chapter without all the daddy abuse and poor tasting humor centered in-between.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 18:07:44 No.2551590

>>2551466
Business is in quotes, Tabitha just really needs to ask how the fucking is going.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 21:26:05 No.2551620

>>2551466
Milking it for what? Is she actually trying to play hard to get? You're not even upset about it. More confused and it's not even that deep.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 22:01:10 No.2551625

>>2551466
90 pages?! This is the longest Sabrina Online story Eric's ever written and it's a lot of fluff and nothing substantial. Skunk's Day Out was also a long storyline, going up to at least 71 pages, yet there was more happening in that chapter compared to this.

This is not helping my theory that Eric's just trying to fill up a page quota for his next physical book and has to make up as much shit to justify the costs.

Furrynomous 2026/03/10 22:42:45 No.2551642

Lady, you've been milking this for almost 2 years now. Shit or get off the pot.

So, we're FINALLY getting this confrontation. How long do you think EWS will drag THIS part out? Betting at least through May.

Furrynomous 2026/03/11 14:58:05 No.2551773

>>2551466
You know, I use to hate Endora for being every single trope of the racist parent with old fashioned values, now I just don't care about her anymore. She's a self-absorbed, whiny woman and yet for some reason we're supposed to care about her solely because she's friends with Zig Zag. It's like the only value people have with her is the same kind of value they have with Helen: Zig fucks with her and that makes the comic worth reading despite both mothers having little personality to themselves and each have pretty generic banter when they meet up with the only other woman that matters in this universe.

Furrynomous 2026/03/12 02:10:39 No.2551875

>>2551773
IDK. Endora, for all she’s worth, seems to have more personality than Helen. I mean, yeah, not necessarily any good personality, but I at least can tell who she is and what she stands for. Helen? Still can’t tell if she’s with ZZ cause she’s either sex-starved, or going through a midlife crisis.

Edited at 2026/03/12 02:13:34

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 09:14:01 No.2552341

I'm just going to say it straight: This whole story feels gross. The moral is all wrong, it missed the point of a plot about a rape survivor, and I think EWS might've finally slipped in his sense of comedy after almost 30 years making this comic.

He couldn't be in the papers and he couldn't be Simpsons, so now he's just becoming Family Guy.

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 11:23:28 No.2552360

>>2552341
>and I think EWS might've finally slipped in his sense of comedy after almost 30 years making this comic.
He slipped his common sense. Remember the 'christmas card' strip? A convicted child rapist looking fondly at a photo of the family that he'd ruined. That last-panel joke about how he raped ZigZag and not her sister because she got her tits early? What needs to go wrong in a person's head for them to think of that and then go "Yeah, that's a good idea!"?

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 13:43:03 No.2552397

>>2552341
I can't believe I'm saying this, but even current-day Family Guy is better written than basically anything EWS has ever done. Quagmire is a literal rapist whose sexual escapades (legal or otherwise) are a source of dark humor for the show, and he's STILL a better character than Zig Zag's dad.

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 14:17:34 No.2552400

It was mentioned before that EWS seems to be channeling that "Domestic Violence" episode of Family Guy and for all the wrong reasons.

It's not clear if this is supposed to be a genuine look at that issue or making fun of it and parodying all those "Very Special Episodes" that cropped up in 80s and 90s TV.

You REALLY can't have your cake and eat it too when it comes to certain things.

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 16:37:22 No.2552430

>>2552360
Still can't believe he chose to do that when a solemn gathering of Zig's mother and the other kids was right there. Didn't even have to make it solemn, but could have had them crying happy tears and feeling like a part of them has healed.

Instead we're supposed to feel for the guy who made an offhand comment about why he decided to rape his one kid but not the other.

Furrynomous 2026/03/14 17:41:18 No.2552438

>>2552430
>Still can't believe he chose to do that when a solemn gathering of Zig's mother and the other kids was right there. Didn't even have to make it solemn, but could have had them crying happy tears and feeling like a part of them has healed.
This would have made a lot of sense because the arc was about ZigZag reconnecting with her family. It would have been both in good taste, and a meaningful way to wrap-up the arc in one pic - the survivors of the abuser coming back together.
The whole pitty-party for the child molester is extra creepy following in the footsteps of the rapey-as-fuck Chiropterana and Jane Cottontail...
The whole prison visit was a horrible idea, and the Christmas card was just doubling down on it. I know Patreon's an echo-chamber, but didn't anyone try to talk sense to Eric? Ask him what was going on in his mind? If I was his fan, I would be seriously worried about the guy after seeing that...

Furrynomous 2026/03/15 05:49:55 No.2552523

>>2552438
Well, there's always the FA...

Furrynomous 2026/03/15 07:45:24 No.2552533

>>2552523
There's only a few users who hate that 2025 Christmas Card, some who see it as a "bold decision", others who are trying to make it sound deeper than it seems, one who wretched over the whole storyline as a whole, and the rest who clearly haven't read a Sabrina Online comic for over a decade.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 01:39:43 No.2555113

Anyone got any new pages?

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 03:12:41 No.2555132

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>>2551466

For some reason Page 91 is still paywall-locked, so here's 92 only instead;

Also, this whole mess of a arc, who had a whole apologist vibe to a criminal (ZZ's father) ends up with the reason it started repeated as a gag, including a underaged girl this time, and without Zig Zag learning any lesson...

Real classy, Ertc, real classy...

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 03:33:02 No.2555136

>>2555132
There's no way this is real. It's gotta be a troll

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:01:36 No.2555141

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>>2555132

Edited at 2026/03/24 04:11:12

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:09:23 No.2555144

>>2555132

I'm reminded of the storyline from 2009 where Double Z Studios had the photoshoot with Zig and Tabitha. Zig had to be talked down from putting the photos on their official site due to the implications and unwanted attention that could bring.

Now here we are a good 17 years later and Zig is full on kissing the same child. Comedy or otherwise........ it's not a good look.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:31:51 No.2555148

A peck on the cheek or forehead would have been ok. Maybe even cute.

But THAT?! Dear god, why? Why after all of this does Zig Zag try to tonsil smash a 12-year-old?

EWS has finally lost it. This... this is just... no.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:32:32 No.2555149

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>>2555144
That was an odd one. The original strip was a bit weird but he doubled down with the full art piece of Zig holding her giving the most fuck me eyes we've probably seen in this entire strip but then he went even further with the book cover with Tabitha and Sabrina looking nervous and Zig-Zag looking like she's ready to prey on her.

>>2555132
Can't actually believe he went this far, Tabitha might be having a comedically bad reaction but Zig looks like she's trying to see how deep she can get her tongue.

I think Zig might need another therapy session after this one.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:41:07 No.2555152

>>2555132
WARNING:
PRETENTIOUS COMMENT BELOW

Going to be honest, what exactly is Sabrina Online to Eric W. Schwartz? Is it an irreverent comedy, an edgy sitcom, or grounded with a bit of exaggerated whimsy? Because the least thing I was expecting as a way to resolve this was possibly to allow time for Endora to come to terms with the kiss after Zig comes out to her about her years of childhood mistreatment and abuse and possibly ask if Endy would've liked a more honest person out of Zig rather than just the wild 40-something looking porn actress with little worries. The attempt to "quick fix" everything about making the problems "even" isn't charming. It's not funny, clever or subversive as EWS thinks. It's not even charming or endearing.

It's just gross.

It's an admission to how little care there was to explore Zig's trauma and how that affects her daily life outside of her environment. It's a pointless story that's only here for fans to enjoy finally seeing Zig's family, all of which had little personality and reflection on Zig as a person and how cut off she's been with them.

This whole story feels like it's trapped in an early 2000s time capsule where shocking the viewer with something unexpected is the point, but we also spent 90+ pages where most of the comic wanted to be a hard-hitting tackle of child/domestic abuse where the character is somehow vindicated not because she's dealing with the reality that her overly perverted and nymphomaniac (emotional self) self is a reflection of how she's made no progress healing herself despite the fame and friends she surrounds herself. But because she's her, and she's just trying to be better, but she's not going to lie to herself about it just to suit what society thinks what's right. That she isn't her father because she's not a loser deluded in thinking she only got to where she is because of him, but in spite of him.

All this is to say that Eric is so irony poisoned and obsessed in his favorite character that he doesn't realized that that very same character kissing a 12 year old writes off everything he's worked on and has stopped writing any of his characters with real agency for a contrived joke. Somebody please check this man's hard drive.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:41:41 No.2555153

As it's been shown multiple times, EWS clearly has no faith in the psychological profession.

Prison inmates are shown to be better qualified therapists than actual doctors.

After all, "Therapist" is just "The Rapist" with a space in between.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:54:44 No.2555155

>>2555132
I know this goes against everything I've been saying for years, but I miss when Endora was a self-centered conservative mother. It's an annoying trope, and a test of tolerance in real life, but at least it meant she had a personality. What is this giggling old woman who's just cool with some porn actress making out with her husband, a thing she didn't like at all back then, and her preteen daughter?

All characterization is gone. Everybody in the cast exist only to have funny reactions to whatever's happening in the foreground and nothing else.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 04:55:28 No.2555156

>>2555148
It certainly feels like the kinda creative decision that would get a ton of backlash from fans, causing him to change it to something like Zig moving toward Tabitha and everyone going "NO!" before she kisses her.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 05:00:28 No.2555157

>After all, "Therapist" is just "The Rapist" with a space in between.

You want to know who's also rapey? The porn actress who spent 90+ pages feeling bad for herself thinking multi-non-consensual kisses are a form of getting on even ground!

Seriously. Eric quite doesn't even know what kind of comic he's writing anymore.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 05:03:05 No.2555158

>>2555132
Wow. Someone didn't learn their lesson about their own childhood trauma.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 05:09:17 No.2555159

>>2555132
This is probably what fans meant about SO!Zig Zag being on understanding terms with Sabrina: She can violate your comfortability and personal space as long as she's honest that she's a broken but successfully hot person in the end.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 05:14:29 No.2555160

>>2555156
I really would love to see the patron fan reactions to this page.

If Eric truly doesn't like to see Tabitha get lewded I think he's going in the wrong direction.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 05:45:53 No.2555166

>>2555132
This is waaaay to spicy for Patreon (although the way things are going, extramarital sex is going to be too spicy for Patreon soon).
Even her kiss with Warren is less rapey - her hands are cupping his cheeks and her mouth is closed. With Tabitha, she's gripping her arms tight and it's an open-mouth/tongue kiss.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 07:56:19 No.2555188

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>>2555132
Tabitha asking how business is in the last page, Zig getting rapey again. She should bring Tabitha to next industry trade show, she might have better luck this time.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 08:09:42 No.2555193

What.. in the actual fuck..
I think we're done here folks.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 08:30:18 No.2555198

>>2555188
These old comics just show hom Eric used to know where the line of good taste/common sense was.
A strip that brings up child abuse doesn't get a punchline.
ZigZag gets too rapey - she gets punched in the face because she deserved it.
Now we have her dad joking about why he raped her and ZigZag molesting a kid in front of her parents and everyone being fine with it...
EWS has fucking lost it...

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 09:20:11 No.2555204

>>2555188
>>2555198

Sometimes I wonder what goes on in the head of an artist who has worked on something for all their adult life and decide to throw away all common sense just for indulgence.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 09:25:27 No.2555205

What really gets me... is in the last three panels.. aside from a slightly raised eyebrow during the kiss..

NOONE CARES SHE JUST FRENCH KISSED A TWELVE YEAR OLD!?

Nah let's look at family pictures instead; ignore the possible trauma and fuck knows what conditions she could have given our daughter. And the fact she just forced kisses on two people, again, without consent.

What the fuck, Eric?

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 10:00:00 No.2555210

>>2555205
>And the fact she just forced kisses on two people, again, without consent.
...in a long-winded arc that was supposed to show her learning that kissing people without consent was bad.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 13:08:53 No.2555229

>>2555210
I'm stretching my mind thinking it's because now there's a better UNDERSTANDING between her and Endora that her kissing anyone with zero consent is more of a "personal compliment" than anything sinister.

This is as far as I will go before I come off as a p3do.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 15:30:53 No.2555286

>>2555132
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

Between this, the entire subplot with Zig Zag's dad, the sexual assault in Chiropterana, and the gang rape in Jane Cottontail, I'm beginning to think we're one porn comic away from seeing some fucked up shit from Eric that goes beyond anything we've seen from him already.

Also, yes, Zig Zag should be in jail alongside her father now. Someone Tabitha's age kissing her like that would be weird even with consent; Zig Zag doing it without her consent would probably count as sexual assault in more than a few states. (Yes, I know, fantasy story, but it's clearly meant to be something of a mirror to reality.) How the other three adults in the room aren't freaked out at ZZ doing that is a symptom of something being seriously fucking wrong with Eric - not as a writer (though he is a shitty writer), but as a person.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 16:13:52 No.2555294

Unfortunately, this kinda thing has ALWAYS been a part of this comic.

The repeated kids days at the studio. The photo shoot in 2009. Tracey and Stacey having an orgy in an amusement park surrounded by families.

I get that EWS wants to do the whole “teach your kids about sex, don’t shield them, yadda yadda”. But this seems more like he’s advocating exposing children to pornography early and regularly.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 16:35:08 No.2555295

>>2555294
In the only bit of fairness I'm willing to give him at this point, Eric has never shown Tabitha to be directly involved with any of the studio's output. Like, yes, the photoshoot (especially the way ZZ looked in it) was CONCERNING, but it wasn't like ZZ was about to start producing porn with Tabitha or have her directing a shoot. Even now, Tabitha may be AWARE of what goes on at ZZ Studios, but she still hasn't been shown as directly viewing any of the studio's output (or any porn in general), and she's never interacted with any of the ZZ Studios regulars in a way that so much as implies that Tabitha has seen them naked/watched them have sex.

Maybe this changes in the future. (I really fucking hope it doesn't unless he ages Tabitha up so she's, say, a high school senior.) But for now, Tabitha's awareness of the nature of ZZ's career is implied to be peripheral at best. It's a small comfort, but I'll take it.

And God help him if he ever implies otherwise.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 16:49:50 No.2555298

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This implies otherwise.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 16:52:03 No.2555300

>>2555132
Okay, at first you could just say it was dumb humor with Zig kissing everybody. But Tabatha?! A thirteen year old?! That's way too much even for the mess that the Zig-Zag show has become. And also Endora and Sabrina reacted when she kissed Warren, but NOBODY has anything to say when she fully mouths a CHILD RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM?! Like really? Like nobody has an issue? She can just do that now?

Not to mention all of this is coming off the back of her trip to face her past. I could have sworn with what she was telling everyone, her father included, was that she was going there to confront her past and move on from it and avoid becoming like her father. Maybe im imagining it, but I could have sworn she said to her father's face that she sees a lot of what she doesn't like about him within herself and she doesn't want to be like that. So her journey to move on from her past and avoid becoming like her abuser ends with her "comically" crossing that line with the little sister of her favorite person? Like WTAF?!!

Also, since this happened, does that mean that this will go down in canon lore that Zig is Tabatha's first kiss? This is not a good look for EWS. Especially coming off the back of that botched deep dive into Zig's past. Not a good look at all.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 17:16:27 No.2555303

>>2555298
It wasn't a good look for him back then, but it could be excused as Tabitha not knowing what sex is or not seeing any sex despite seeing, say, the filming of any "setup" to the sex. With everything that's happened in "Stripes and Links", though? That excuse is retroactively less credible.

Man, it's kind of wild how this one comic - basically from the first page! - has wrecked Zig Zag, or Eric's version of her, as a character AND Sabrina Online as a comic series. I haven't seen a downfall this bad since Family Guy got renewed.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 18:30:42 No.2555323

>>2555300
>Like nobody has an issue? She can just do that now?
Honestly, Patreon might wind up having an issue since this is clearly non-con sexual contact with a minor. And to be honest, getting suspended might be the slap in the face Eric needs to bring him to his senses.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 20:15:58 No.2555333

>>2555132
I always noticed how when a lot of people talk about Sabrina Online it's always the old comic strip run and rarely the continuation. Someone should show this page with no context and see if this gets any genuine concern or reaction out of those same readers and fans who clearly haven't kept up with the series after 2016.

Furrynomous 2026/03/24 21:59:04 No.2555386

Poor Tabitha is probably going to be thinking about the entire history of Zig-Zag's mouth. How many cocks, how many times Zig has had her mouth filled to the brim with cum, how deep she's gone with ass rimming.

Furrynomous 2026/03/25 07:35:42 No.2555537

>>2555132
page 91 still missing

Furrynomous 2026/03/25 10:29:10 No.2555571

>>2555537
Page 93 is also out on his Patreon as well.

Furrynomous 2026/03/25 11:41:36 No.2555576

I have to issue a correction on an earlier comment I made in the thread. After having said I didn't think Tabitha ever saw Zig Zag or any of the ZZ Studios crew naked, I went back to re-read that specific arc of SabOL to make sure I was right. Turns out that she did see at least ZZ naked through the ZZ Studios website, since that's what kicks off the whole "Tabitha at ZZ Studios" arc. Now, whether she saw ZZ or other ZZ Studios regulars naked (or having sex) *in person* is a different matter, but I did fuck up with my recollection of the story, and that shit is on me.

That story and this story being what they are, however, is all on Eric.

Furrynomous 2026/03/26 06:23:35 No.2555829

>>2555386
Next arc: Tabitha develops an STI. X(

Furrynomous 2026/03/26 15:39:35 No.2555962

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>>2555829
Knowing what effect Zig had on her last time, we might see an updated version of this where she's practicing her ahegao face instead.

Furrynomous 2026/03/26 21:34:17 No.2556022

>people surprised when the ZigZag show has her doing her "I am shameless" bit after she just did a huge trauma dump

Next you also gonna complain on how ZigZag is always right and everyone who is against her is bad and evil.

Furrynomous 2026/03/26 22:28:08 No.2556026

>>2556022

People have a right when the author seems to be showing lesser tact in how he's writing these stories.

Furrynomous 2026/03/27 00:14:19 No.2556036

>>2556022
There probably wouldn't be as many complaints about ZZ's shamelessness if Eric hadn't drawn her tongue-kissing a twelve-year-old. We're used to seeing ZZ be a handsy slut; getting frisky with an underage girl is a whole new thing, and Eric deserves the callout on that.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 04:40:03 No.2556258

...why does it feel like Eric is actively trying to kill his career as an artist with this latest story? I've seen nothing but universal condemnation over this entire arc, even from longtime readers of the original series. But this latest page just seals it. Either he's losing his ability to inhibit his inner thoughts as he gets older, or he's actively trying to alienate his readers so he can stop drawing Sabrina and just focus on drawing porn instead (which really seems to be all he wants to draw these days anyway).

I also wonder how Max feels about Zig being portrayed like this.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 05:40:33 No.2556266

>>2556258
>...why does it feel like Eric is actively trying to kill his career as an artist with this latest story? I've seen nothing but universal condemnation over this entire arc, even from longtime readers of the original series.
The scary thing is that his Patreon has seen a small uptick (about two dozen) in paying members. If you factor in how many people have been driven away by the child-rapist pity party and now this page of ZZ actually going full-p3d0 and been replaced by people who like this "new direction"...
Now that those people are the new voices in Eric's echo-chamber, his stuff is going to get a LOT worse...

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 06:32:52 No.2556280

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Finally remembered he skipped a page.

Page 92
>>2555132

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 06:35:50 No.2556283

On the bright side, this whole story will be over soon next month.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 06:44:09 No.2556288

>>2556266

Is there even a noticeable decline? The comic Patreon has over 2,300 members while his adult Patreon has only 331 members, and it's a paid one too. I find it hard there was much of an exodus if Eric is still seeing plentiful readership compared to whenever he posts on his main adult account. Although, attention spans and critical awareness seems to be either budding heads or ignoring the what's going on specifically in the story with how lacking the responses have been getting throughout its run.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 07:19:00 No.2556292

>>2555149
Zig zag going the cub route, would not be surprised.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 08:50:35 No.2556301

Wonder if Zig Zag was a guest at a certain notorious island?

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 12:33:32 No.2556357

The thing about the Sabrina patreon is that you can join for free. So EWS isn't necessarily getting tons of money for this.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 12:44:21 No.2556358

>>2556357
And it's only, what, a dollar to see the new pages early? No way the SabOL Patreon is making him more than his porn Patreon.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 12:54:22 No.2556359

The actual PAYING supporters of the Sabrina patreon are about 340 people.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 12:56:47 No.2556360

>>2556358
>>2556357

But those are just Patreon numbers. There's also book sales. He's got to print out these pages for physical release annually. He must be making back enough money to justify continuing this webcomic, otherwise it wouldn't be anything but a hobby.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 16:27:26 No.2556376

>>2556301
Why travel when one of her most trusted employees keeps bringing her cubs?

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 17:13:03 No.2556383

>>2556280
Considering that ZigZag just full on kissed a child, regardless if it was meant to be taken as a joke, her words mean nothing here. She can talk about "inherited traits" and wanting to be a better person and NOT do those things all she wants, but it doesn't make a difference. She still literally went against all of those things a few seconds ago when she forced a kiss on a minor. And im still a little shocked that Zig's non-consensual kiss on Tabitha, who clearly didn't want it, is going unacknowledged by every adult in the room. I mean I know its been established forever that Zig can pretty much do nothing wrong, but holy shit is this bad.

Sabrina: "You know, speaking as someone who has known Zig a long time, that was actually pretty good". Like seriously, Sabrina? You're going to comment on her apology and not the fact that she played a quick game of tonsil hockey with your underage sister leass than 60 seconds ago?

Sadly I doubt this will be addressed. Or worse, if it is it will just be some shit like "don't think im going to forget you kissed my little sister" and then the issue will get dropped immediately afterwards and never be brought up again.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 19:21:18 No.2556400

>>2556383

They don't comment on it because it hasn't happened yet. The pages are out of order.

The kiss page is 92, and this page is 91. So the kiss comes after this.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 22:07:56 No.2556424

>>2556383
>>2556400
Yeah. If anything, page 92 ruins whatever point 91 and the rest of the pages before it were trying to do. Eric really could've just had Zig Zag kiss Warren and be done with it. Hell. Forcibly kiss Sabrina too. She's used to getting sexually harassed by her rich boss.

Furrynomous 2026/03/28 22:24:39 No.2556428

>>2556400
I hadn't noticed the pages were in the wrong order, sorry.

But reversing the pages I stand by my point that Zig's words mean nothing since she went and did what she said she didn't want to do by acting like someone she claimed she didn't want to be. And I'm still almost certain nothing is going to come of her display of kissing Tabitha infront of everybody.

Furrynomous 2026/03/29 10:36:10 No.2556655

>>2556428
Either way, this last page invalidates this long-ass arc. The premise was that Zig is going to learn that something as innocent as a kiss can affect someone as bad as sexual assault and that she needs to respect boundaries.
And with one page we're back to the way everything was because Eric's fear of change keeps him from evolving his characters no matter how many pages he cranks out about them changing...

Furrynomous 2026/03/29 14:43:32 No.2556784

No kidding.
You could pretty much cut out the entire road trip subplot, the meeting Zig's family business, the flashback, the "Tina needs a new home" bit, etc. and nothing would really change.

Honestly, I don't think it's a fear of change that's holding EWS back. It's that he wants to copy the "Status Quo Restored by the End" business you see on the Simpsons.

The difference is, an episode of that show only lasts about 20-30 minutes.

THIS story arc was almost TWO YEARS long. So, for it to end with Zig Zag going "tee-hee, back to square one!" feels like a MASSIVE middle-finger to the readers.

Furrynomous 2026/03/29 18:00:29 No.2556822

>>2556784
oh my god I never realized that this arc has been going since 2024.

Furrynomous 2026/03/30 08:00:59 No.2556952

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>>2555132
>Aftermath, after algebra, after calculus.

Someone should really tell Eric to stop writing descriptions when he can barely come up with anything funny or relevant. Like, you don't have to write something below each of your comic posts if you don't have anything interesting to add in.

Edited at 2026/03/31 19:13:04

Furrynomous 2026/03/30 08:07:28 No.2556962

>>2556952
Well. This slightly makes the last page look less disgusting if framed as the final time she'll ever do something like that again.

Furrynomous 2026/03/30 08:19:21 No.2556964

>>2556952
For a chapter talking about change it really doesn't commit to it besides talking around the subject as if anything really happened.

Furrynomous 2026/03/31 19:33:03 No.2557361

So what was the point of showing Zig and Tina's past together? It didn't amount to anything and they were so unprompted. Did Eric just threw them in here as filler? Because it really doesn't feel like the two ever bothered calling back to each other's past in the slightest to justify them popping up.

It's been said many times before, but this whole arc is a mess. Makes me wonder if Eric's mind wasn't really into it as much as he thought with how poorly paced and lacking it was in the grand scheme of revisiting Zig Zag's past. I don't even believe the sit-com status quo reset is completely true with how much time Eric put into this storyline, yet it feels like not enough was done other than setting up events. I don't even understand why he set up such a serious topic if he wasn't going to pay off anything equally substantial. It's like he views abuse, rape, and other hard subjects as "big sad" and his only recourse is to have his cast self-pity all day for how bad they feel about it.

Furrynomous 2026/03/31 21:14:44 No.2557392

>>2557361
The sad thing is, this didn't have to be that bad. I went over how the whole "Zig Zag and her dad meeting in jail" scene could've been improved (and even did a quickie rewrite to prove it), but the whole arc could've been saved by a much better writer. The primary issue is there's no real throughline for the main plot (ZZ figuring out why she acts the way she does) because it ends, or at least ends up, at a place where ZZ can apologize for her behavior but still exhibit that behavior and go "well that's just who I am" without consequence. The subplots that go nowhere or offer nothing of importance to the story can be axed without issue. The flashbacks to Tina and ZZ meeting each other and forming ZZ Studios and all that could've been a comic in and of themselves.

The ending of any story is its conceit, and there doesn't seem to be an ending here besides "ZZ still gets to be an asshole because her father sexually abused her when she was a teenager, but now she's slightly more apologetic about it". Endora is basically back to normal, Sabrina's whole family is basically ignoring how ZZ slid her tongue down a teenage girl's throat, and nothing's really changed in the sense of character growth or evolution. The fact that Endora's whole "okay, the kiss made me feel weird in a good way" bit was basically ignored in favor of the bullshit with Zig Zag's dad says more about Eric's writing than anything else. That said, Eric writing Zig Zag frenching Tabitha without consequence does say some things he probably doesn't want it to say about him.

Furrynomous 2026/04/04 13:25:51 No.2558340

So the current, blurry, early pages on Patreon seem to be Tina doing her dumb VTubing hustle and Zig's father meeting that one badger guy that mugged Sabrina back in 2012 across his cell.

I don't get why we need to see more of either of them.

Furrynomous 2026/04/04 17:35:41 No.2558350

>>2558340
Didn't he wrap up the Sabrina mugger story with a prison rape joke? Wouldn't be surprised if he fell back on that joke again.

Furrynomous 2026/04/04 17:41:10 No.2558352

>>2558340
WTF? The whole reason he inflicted Zig's dad on his audience was because he was supposed to be important for her arc (he wasn't). Now he's giving the child-rapist screen time without any of the main chars involved? Is he going to have him beat up the badger and be the hero or some shit?

Furrynomous 2026/04/04 21:04:52 No.2558383

>>2558352
Fuck you're right, that is exactly what's going to happen.

Furrynomous 2026/04/05 05:07:07 No.2558498

>>2558350
No. We wrapped it up with him getting told why Zig Zag got a slap on the wrist despite her (rightfully) beating up the mugger to near death and all those lawsuits she got from her troll revenge tour, the latter being omitted from the conversation.

Furrynomous 2026/04/05 06:17:44 No.2558551

I just thought of something - how could you keep domestic abuse secret in a skunk household? Other than the fact that there wouldn't be enough tomato juice to wash Zig's dad after getting sprayed non-stop by his wife and daughter, their whole house would smell like a landfill in August. Sus as fuck...

Furrynomous 2026/04/05 16:03:32 No.2558683

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>>2558498
I screwed up, I thought it was the last comic related to the guy but Eric does the new cellmate joke earlier on when he's first locked up.

Furrynomous 2026/04/07 01:51:11 No.2559131

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>>2556952
>Felicia Nebula returns, with an updated avatar model since last we saw her.

Furrynomous 2026/04/07 05:22:44 No.2559184

>>2559131
Eric seriously can't break out of this 2x3 panel grid long enough to show a landscape screen? Or is it just that he's still on 800x600px and doesn't know that widescreen is a thing? Seriously, if you're gonna be late to the sex-stream-chat party, at least show the damn chat sidebar!

Furrynomous 2026/04/07 06:50:44 No.2559206

>>2559184

Dude's been insisting in using an Amiga computer for years now, you think he knows about any aspect ration that isn't 4:3

Furrynomous 2026/04/07 07:45:24 No.2559259

>>2559131
I'm shocked Eric never did anything with the whole Vtuber thing and made it the new "ZZ Studios discovers a new way to interact with fans" story like he did when they were introducing camwhoring.

Furrynomous 2026/04/07 14:20:25 No.2559549

>>2559184
Expecting Eric to change how he formats his comics is like expecting him to learn how to properly color and shade a comic again. At this point, he's just cutting corners.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 04:34:50 No.2561820

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>>2559131
>The meeting no one was asking for, yet many still seemed to be expecting.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 06:53:31 No.2561827

>>2561820
you ever just suddenly feel really proud of the kid that you used to rape? must be a magical feeling.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 10:46:48 No.2561862

>>2561820
Well, at least Eric is aware how pointless this was. Now if only he stuck with not drawing this to begin with.

Next early page is dealing with Zig's therapist again. Crossing fingers this is the final update for this story.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 11:29:14 No.2561867

>>2561862
I honestly think that people who were predicting a PDfile parole were right. Zig's therapist is going to tell her how 'healthy' her interaction with her dad was, she's going to keep seeing him in prison and probablly fuck someone to get him a parole. Then the child-rapist will become a regular cast membe, and if Tabitha thought getting kissed by ZigZag was bad, well...

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 15:59:48 No.2561919

>>2561867
first order of business is having Tabitha give him an unsupervised tour around the studio.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 21:36:36 No.2561968

>>2561919

No worries, Tabitha isn't developed enough for his tastes. After all, he makes it clear that Zig was an earlier bloomer, and that got his engine going.

Maybe if there is a time skip, and his parole took a few years. Then, if Tabitha shows up at the studio and has grown curvy. Then, she might be safe from Zig's father.

This is still so strange that it's gone back to dear ol' dad here, and how proud he is of his kid for beating up a guy. Guess he's not so bad after all. Maybe after he's out, he and Zig can rekindle the relationship where they left off, catch a few ball games together.

Furrynomous 2026/04/14 21:40:08 No.2561969

Furrynomous 2026/04/15 11:34:07 No.2562071

>>2561820
I'm just going to accept that Eric legitimately hates establishing a serious tone in his work. How do you take a long existing story about how your favorite character goes through a terrible childhood experience under a intoxicated and abusive father and then turn it into a big lark where he's giggling by the coincidence that his own daughter beaten up the mugger across his cell? Is this supposed to make Zig's father seem cool, that he's passed on that "toughness" he tried to shove in her head, or is this just because EWS thinks he's so funny wasting a page on seeing this man?

God, there's absolutely nothing salvageable in this arc.

Furrynomous 2026/04/19 12:52:54 No.2563096

Were the fans really demanding more strips dedicated to this guy?

It's really bizarre how EWS is treating Ray like he's your standard comedy criminal lowlife. He didn't steal hubcaps, spray-paint a wall, or try to photocopy money at Kinko's.

It's not like this series is lacking in "Dad" characters either. You obliviously have Warren. But you also have Conrad (R.C.'s dad), R.C. himself, Tommy, Tommy's Dad, and Spike.

If he wanted an older male character, he's already got a few. God forbid he focus on ANYONE not mildly tied to Zig Zag.

Furrynomous 2026/04/19 13:19:56 No.2563099

>>2562071
>God, there's absolutely nothing salvageable in this arc.
It could have been decent if he'd just avoided putting a child rapist in it. More space for ZigZag's family and her reconciliation with her mother, who was actually a salvageable character. More worthwhile and he could have kept it light and with his comci-strip jokes sprinkled in.

But at this point Eric is simping for ZigZag's dad, and I don't think anyone can possibly try so hard to make a criminal, wife-beater and child molester likable without realizing what he's doing. Eric seriously needs help but nobody in his bubble is going to tell him that.

Furrynomous 2026/04/19 17:35:33 No.2563153

>>2563099
If anything, having ZZ's familial reconciliation come with the revelation that her father is dead - thus denying her a final confrontation with him and forcing her to concentrate on her own awful behavior - would've been a far, far, far better choice than trying to turn a character who raped their own teenage daughter into a sympathetic and somewhat likeable character.

Furrynomous 2026/04/19 21:35:15 No.2563204

>>2563096
No joke I would love to see more of RC's parents. They're a bit one note, but they're a pretty harmless and well meaning duo, plus you could do a fish out of water with new tech if they visit kind of story or have them ending up liking Sabrina's Amiga cause it's a lot older and basic compared to all the confusing new stuff.

>>2563153
Her dad being dead actually would have been a good way to take it, even if it's her just screaming at a grave for a bit. Could give her the emotional payoff that Eric's looking for, could have involved her family more and wouldn't have put so much focus on such an awful character.

>>2563099
Agree and I still can't make sense of his decision making to focus on him.

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 05:31:22 No.2563257

>>2563204
>and wouldn't have put so much focus on such an awful character.

It's not just focus, it's positive focus. Like him making a joke about why he raped his daughter and Eric expecting people to find it funny. Like presenting a rapist gaslighting his victim as therapeutic. Like that Christmas card, and this latest comic about him laughing at the mugger...
Zig's dad spent years beating the shit out of her (and her mom) until she hit puberty. Then he spent years raping her. Night after night, year after year, no remorse whatsoever. Let that sink in and then wonder what has to go wrong in a person's head for them to think "Everyone loves this character! I'm gonna give him more space in my comic!"

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 07:01:56 No.2563275

>>2563257
It's not even that people "loved" him, it's that Eric clearly didn't give a damn if they did. Anyone with any sense would've told him that trying to turn a child raping domestic abuser into a character who's meant to be seen as sincerely funny and sympathetic would be a bad idea. Any other writer might try to course correct and fix the issue. They wouldn't keep doubling down on it as if they actually have a future planned for a character so unsavory and disgusting. But Eric has continued to double down, which leads me to believe we're about one or two sex comics away from seeing Dear Ol' Dad get his own sex comic - and it's a toss-up as to whether it's actually going to show him raping Zig Zag when she was a teenager because we know for sure that Eric doesn't have a problem with drawing rape.

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 16:06:39 No.2563327

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Still can't believe this is a real comic panel.

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 17:57:01 No.2563356

Maybe this whole thing is some kind of 6-dimensional chess move that EWS is making with this character.

Maybe this will be all revealed to have been a fever dream as he lies barely conscious in the prison infirmary after his latest round of beatings from the guards and prisoners.

Or perhaps, it's all in Zig Zag's head. Turns out she never went anywhere or did anything, and she's just fantasising about this whole mess as she gets railed in her newest film shoot.

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 19:04:07 No.2563373

>>2563356
Or Eric is working with federal law enforcement and is trying to turn his Patreon into a honeypot for sex offenders. Seriously, could you imagine still being subbed to SO after all this? It's practically a watch-list at this point...

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 19:49:41 No.2563381

>>2563327
Does this mean zig was fucked as a young teen/pre-teen?
(Is there art/fanart?)

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 20:56:04 No.2563401

>>2563381
The story doesn't specify an exact age, but I'd wager Eric would say it happened after she hit 13.

Furrynomous 2026/04/20 23:21:37 No.2563443

>>1610956

This is pretty much it.
For the record, this was used for the "Zig Zag: The Story" fan site and Ok'ed by MBR

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 00:06:48 No.2563451

>>2563443
This feels too dated. >>2563275 might have the right idea, we could use a mini comic showing off exactly what happened so we can feel more emotionally connected to Zig and her history.

Either that or the idea of her dad getting his hands on Tabi once he's sprung from jail on good behavior.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 00:23:36 No.2563454

>>2563451
Would you please keep this kind of absolute degeneracy quarantined to the appropriate board? I really don't need to know how much you want to fuck children, stranger.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 00:38:22 No.2563459

>>2563275
That sounds weird, “predators can’t be funny and likable”? This kind of thinking is how people make themselves blind to evil. People who believe evil means you have to be a detestable loser or fat and ugly are delusional. Evil always wears a mask otherwise you would be weary or reject it outright, preventing evil from achieving its wicked goals.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 00:44:57 No.2563460

>>2563327

And yet, I remain unsympathetic.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 02:39:07 No.2563478

>>2563459
>This kind of thinking is how people make themselves blind to evil.
We're talking about a fictional story where someone admitted to raping an underage child. The only person being blind to evil is the person writing that child-raping sociopath in a way that tries to make him seem not just sympathetic, but entertaining to be around - despite him, you know, joking about WHY he raped his then-underage daughter. If you think that's good writing, I invite you to ask yourself why.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 02:50:11 No.2563479

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>>2561820
>Always visit your doctor regularly.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 09:13:43 No.2563543

Anyone got Eric's drawn image that he posted on the P, since kp is out of commission at the moment?

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 09:47:58 No.2563545

>>2563478
The uncomfortable truth that hebes can be charming or handsome is fundamentally uncomfortable. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad story or poorly written, just that you are facing uncomfortable truths you have not confronted yet.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 10:23:13 No.2563559

>>2563204

You know what might be a fun story?
R.C.’s parents visit Tommy’s weed shop and give him pointers on growing different varieties of cannabis.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 11:26:00 No.2563576

>>2563479

Well at least she won't be bribing him for free sessions anymore. Although, paying him back for them with actual money that she has would also be a good way to apologize too.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 11:35:50 No.2563577

>>2563545
I'm not "facing uncomfortable truths you have not confronted yet". I know full well that people who rape, regardless of the age of their victim, can be outwardly charming and likeable and such. That's part of how they get away with it.

My point, which you avoided addressing, is that Eric is writing a child-raping domestic abuser in a way where his "charm" is meant to make the bastard genuinely endearing to the audience DESPITE the crimes he's committed and the lives he's wrecked by being a child-raping domestic abuser. If we were supposed to be horrified by him, Eric would've made him come off as creepy instead of "folksy" or whatever. Combined with Eric's relatively recent penchant for writing/drawing sexual assault in his porn comics - Chiropterana and Jane Cottontail both got sexually assaulted in their debut comics - there's an uncomfortable truth about EWS lying beneath the surface that I don't think you're ready to confront.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 12:06:39 No.2563596

Dude, EWS has been drawing rape/non-consensual pieces for years before either of those comics.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 13:31:23 No.2563611

I like how some user's excuse is " EWS draws rape/dubcon art" forgetting that that was in service of the porn and this is story is supposed to be in service of a supposedly serious plot dealing with everyone's favorite sex worker.

Thing is Eric wanted to tell this story because he believed he could, yet, despite the start, executed it poorly. Doing everything he usually does the same way he's been writing this continuation.

Guy can draw as many rape fictions he wants since that's what sells for the coomers/gooners out there. Just don't try that in story we're supposed to read as character development for his favorite skunk girl.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 18:20:08 No.2563737

>>2563577
This.
Arguments had been made that Eric was trying to portray Zig's dad as a monstrously elaborate predator (even though he was just an abusive violent drunk). But those fell apart after the "holiday card" and the latest strip. It is now painfully obvious that Eric is actually doing everything he can to cast the most horrible character in his IP in a sympathetic light.
Seriously, how can you have a guy who beat his wife and beat and raped his under-aged daughter feeling superior to a mugger who assaulted adult strangers?

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 21:56:20 No.2563807

Watch how this story doesn't end up hurting Eric's career.

Furrynomous 2026/04/21 23:54:33 No.2563827

>>2563807
He's not even talking about it on his accounts. He genuinely doesn't even know the degree of fuck-up he did because nobody is telling him.

Furrynomous 2026/04/22 21:57:29 No.2564097

Not to be too mean, but what career are we talking about here?

Most of EWS' "career" is made up of drawing Sabrina Online, drawing stuff for FAD, and having a booth/table at cons. Even FAD is now mostly made up of re-posting stuff he drew for patreon.

Plus, this is the furry fandom. It's not like rape and incest isn't already recurring fetishes. Just look at Naylor's work. Even this site has a place to post cub shit.

I'm not DEFENDING any of this. Like everyone else, I think it's disgusting and downright stupid to try to make Zig's Dad a relatable/likable character.

I'm just pointing out that it's not like EWS has any real bridges to burn.
He did most of that decades ago when he decided the internet was a fad and the best computer ever was a beige box.

Furrynomous 2026/04/23 03:45:35 No.2564141

>>2564097
>Not to be too mean, but what career are we talking about here?

You forget that drawing smut and an ongoing webcomic is a career. He's still getting money from these revenues and, as far as anyone knows, this is his main source of income. He hasn't burned as many bridges if people still look up to his work, even if he's more of a stagnant relic than a leading artist.

Furrynomous 2026/04/23 03:57:40 No.2564144

>>2563479
You know, if Zig keeps doing this, people will start believing she fears commitment.

Cornchowder 2026/04/23 04:08:48 No.2564145

Holy cow! I joked about ZZ's father and that badger that attacked Sabrina sharing a cell like a year ago, and now they're actually neighbors. I mean, my prediction wasn't spot on, but it was close.

Furrynomous 2026/04/23 11:04:54 No.2564195

What I meant was that EWS isn’t like Scott Adams or Frank Miller, etc. Someone with a big, mainstream following that said/did something offensive or stupid that caused the rest of their profession to wash their hands of them.

As long as he draws the big breasted skunk lady, he’ll be fine. No matter how many rape jokes and “p3dos are good people” messages he puts in his work.

Furrynomous 2026/04/23 21:52:54 No.2564299

>>2564195
Pretty much all this. He has to do something really offensive like grooming or actively drawing cub for his credibility to take damage.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 06:12:47 No.2565618

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>>2563479
>Circling back to check in with the fam.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 06:32:28 No.2565621

>>2565618

'Nice' to see these two show up again. I'm remembering why people had a problem over how Eric draws these guys compared to how he draws Zig Zag deadbeat, convicted father. It's like the most effort was put into the worse character who, as far as I know, doesn't even have a name.

I can't believe this story had been going on for two years and reached over 90+ pages, yet nothing of value or story changing even happened, and it wasn't even fun to read through.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 06:42:18 No.2565628

Someone upload the last page, please. The final page seems to be right back to where Zig and Endora started this story, and I want this over and done with.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 07:30:21 No.2565640

>>2565618
Thankfully the comic does have some cute stuff and glad that he hopefully is trying to end it on Zig and the family and not so much her scumbag father. I know we probably won't see her again but Brandy's got a cute design and I wish we got Zig's mom in glasses again.

>>2565621
It's not the end of the world but yes he very clearly put way more effort into drawing Zig's dad and the prison chat scene more than any of the other family members. I'm sure he meant it more for emotive purposes but yeah he clearly is making some weird decisions on who to focus on and where to put his effort.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 11:00:38 No.2565651

>>2565621

Her dad is named Ray

>>2524409

Edited at 2026/04/28 11:07:52

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 12:44:29 No.2565676

>>2565628
No. I'm sure you can wait a few extra weeks for the last page of this chapter to be publicly release from Patreon.

Furrynomous 2026/04/28 23:50:28 No.2565810

Is it just me, or is Brandy sans underpants?

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 10:10:07 No.2565947

How long does everyone think we'll have to wait until Zig draws her little sister into porn? And before you say "she'd never do that", let me remind you she's currently filming a respectable single mother getting gang-banged with her son in the studio (although not yet in the "splash zone").
Bonus points - her brother will also be there, forced to watch and to apologize for ever having a problem with what ZigZag does for a living...

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 12:06:38 No.2565965

>>2565947
Please stop telling us how much you want to fuck little children and/or see little children being fucked.

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 13:51:20 No.2565977

>>2565965
I meant until Zig draws HER little sister into the porn biz, not Sabrina's...

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 14:59:33 No.2565987

>>2565977
I apologize for the misunderstanding. We've had enough people in this thread talking about Tabitha doing porn and whatnot that I assumed you were one of them as well. That fuck-up was on me; my bad.

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 17:10:42 No.2566029

I think Zig Zag said she’d keep her sister away from the studio. At least the on-camera stuff.

But honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me. Just about the only women in this comic who DON’T want to be “stars” are Sabrina and Endora

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 17:18:40 No.2566033

>I think Zig Zag said she’d keep her sister away from the studio. At least the on-camera stuff.
And ZZ's laundry list of hypocrisy continues.

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 19:23:26 No.2566047

>>2566033
Was just about to say this. ZigZag's sexy, single twentysomething sister can't go near the studio, but Sabrina's preteen sister? Oh hell yeah, bring her in, do a photo shoot and have her visit again and listen to people's porn movie ideas!

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 19:44:35 No.2566052

>>2565947
>>2566029
I think if it were to happen, I have a feeling it'd be Brandy trying to push her sister into letting her get involved, Zig might have her reservations and think it's weird only to get into it for the porno cliche of "I never thought this would happen to me"

Or maybe they might get into a sisterly rivalry of trying to one up each other.

Furrynomous 2026/04/29 23:16:34 No.2566101

It’s even weirder when you remember that on the other thread, Zig Zag is dedicating lots of time and money so some random person can get over their mid-life crisis and screw with their son’s feelings.

Furrynomous 2026/04/30 00:19:34 No.2566116

>>2566101
>screw with their son’s feelings
Again with the "WON'T ANYONE THINK ABOUT THE POOR BOY'S FEELINGS" bullshit for a fictional character whose entire existence is owed to being the punchline for a bad joke. Jesus Christ, what the actual fuck is wrong with you people who think we need to have infinite pity for that dude.

Furrynomous 2026/04/30 01:29:11 No.2566130

>>2566116
Same reason people constantly point out other shit in EWS's world like Zigzag's bullshit, Endora's conservative prudeness, Jane Cottontail constantly getting r*pe, Holly dating Doug, that batgirl knock-off whatshername titfucking a diseased homeless man, etc.

Furrynomous 2026/04/30 13:38:55 No.2566211

>>2566130
When other people point out those things, it's in the context of either "Eric's writing really sucks ass" or "wow, Eric's going to some dark places with his art". It's not like I'm asking everyone to feel sad for Jane Cottontail when I point out that a porn comic character got gangraped in her debut appearance - it's pointing out that, compared to the bulk of his past work (at least the stuff that's been publicly released), Eric is drawing some really fucked up stuff nowadays. Everyone coming in here to complain about Bobby is basically asking us to treat a character who exists only to be a punchline of a bad joke - and I really can't believe I have to keep saying that as a reminder to you fuckers - as if he's a real person who survived a tragedy worse than the Holocaust and needs all the world's pity.

Why the fuck do you have an emotional attachment to him, anyway? Nobody cares this much about a character without one. And he's not even as much of a character as Jane Cottontail; the entirety of his characterization is "stupid teenager who said dumb shit on the Internet". What the fuck is there to even connect with?

Furrynomous 2026/04/30 14:11:42 No.2566214

You completely missed the point of what I said.

My comment WASN’T about Bobby or his character.

My point was that EWS depicts Zig Zag wanting to keep HER sister out of the porn business but is perfectly fine with getting other women to sign on because THEY should have fun. (Or because she personally wants to fuck them. I.e. Sabrina and Helen)

Furrynomous 2026/04/30 22:50:30 No.2566322

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Furrynomous 2026/05/01 04:32:22 No.2566374

>>2566322
……..why?

Furrynomous 2026/05/01 09:17:51 No.2566445

>>2566322
Lol, he doesn't care about ZigZag's messages, he just wants to see if Brandy keeps nudes on her phone... :P

Furrynomous 2026/05/01 11:09:42 No.2566458

Maybe Brandon and Brandy have a “siblings with benefits” arrangement like Fisk and Lucy did in “Badly Drawn Kitties”.

Cornchowder 2026/05/02 06:30:24 No.2566657

>>2566458
That wasn't Badly Drawn Kitties. It was Better Days. Jay Naylor and the artist of Badly Drawn Kitties both had a female feline character named Lucy. I think there was some big issue over it. But I can't remember what.

Furrynomous 2026/05/02 06:53:00 No.2566658

>>2566657
It used to be the same character - Lucy Black. Even Fisk had made a few cameos in BDK in the early days when Naylor and Mat Sherer were in some kind of... 'relationship' before Naylor got deep into his republican christian "MURRRRRICAAA!" phase. Then Sherer changed *his* Lucy's last name and had his universe's Fisk die in the Iraq war.
And to kinda-sorta bring this off-topic discussion back on topic. BDK Lucy also dated and worked for - ZigZag!

Cornchowder 2026/05/02 08:58:34 No.2566680

>>2566658
Wow! I wonder how many other webcomics connect like that?

Furrynomous 2026/05/02 10:01:21 No.2566697

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Comic from Badly Drawn Kitties.
Fisk and Lucy clearly have a “casual sex” attitude towards each other.

Furrynomous 2026/05/02 12:54:15 No.2566704

>>2566658
>Naylor and Mat Sherer were in some kind of... 'relationship'
Like, a friendship?

Furrynomous 2026/05/02 15:40:50 No.2566729

Brojobs with Matt tucking it.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 08:10:56 No.2567238

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>>2565618
>So close to 100 pages......

>I'll be taking a bit of a break after this, then return with a new story focusing on Sabrina, RC, and Danielle, (I haven't decided on a title yet) with a distinct possibility that Zig Zag may not appear at all. (!!!) Will the toys appear again? Maybe!

Edited at 2026/05/05 04:44:02

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 08:18:36 No.2567239

Finally this hot mess is over.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 11:24:36 No.2567251

>>2567238
Well, at least ONE person learned something in this story.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 14:27:54 No.2567284

Given how long this thread is, whenever the next Sabrina Online arc begins, we should start a new thread for it.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 14:45:26 No.2567286

>>2567284
Nah. Let's just keep going until it reaches the point where the thread takes too long to load in. It's what happened to the first thread.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 14:58:39 No.2567293

>>2567286
You're the kind of person who tortures small animals for the hell of it, aren't you.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 15:50:55 No.2567314

How symbolic. Two years. A lot of huffing and puffing. And Endora moves TWO FEET away from Zig Zag.

Bravo.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 16:05:26 No.2567317

>>2567314
I mean, when you don't bring up the length it took to finish this storyline, the page numbers and the "character development", it's a little funny.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 17:10:36 No.2567323

Do we have confirmation on what the next story will be? Hoping for something a little more home focused. RC and Danielle getting more page time would be nice, earlier comics Tabitha brought some cute fun to the panels, Danielle probably won't hit that same high, but she deserves a bit of time to shine now that she's talking.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 20:37:21 No.2567358

>>2567323

Eric currently is doing a Helen Dish/Zig Zag sex comic, myself, I hope to see more Holly and Doug comics.

Furrynomous 2026/05/04 23:52:58 No.2567396

>>2567358
That's not really relevant; he did this Sabrina Online story while doing...what, two or three different sex comics in the same span of time?

Furrynomous 2026/05/05 01:44:22 No.2567414

>Do we have confirmation on what the next story will be? Hoping for something a little more home focused.
Whatever it is, no doubt ZZ will somehow be involved more than she should be.

Furrynomous 2026/05/05 04:11:49 No.2567427

>>2567414
Just as long as her dad isn't...

Furrynomous 2026/05/05 05:17:51 No.2567435

>>2567323

Something like this from the artist:
>I'll be taking a bit of a break after this, then return with a new story focusing on Sabrina, RC, and Danielle, (I haven't decided on a title yet) with a distinct possibility that Zig Zag may not appear at all. (!!!) Will the toys appear again? Maybe!

Looks like we might get another Homecoming/Toy Story, Too type of story.

Furrynomous 2026/05/05 13:54:46 No.2567544

>>2567435
>with a distinct possibility that Zig Zag may not appear at all.

I got a feeling she either will show up in some form, or it will be a pretty short story. Lord knows Eric cant really do anything substantial without ZZ anymore. You know, despite the fact that Sabrina is his main (and titular) character. Why more of the stories don't focus on Sabrina and her family life I don't know, but for some reason she's been more or less sidelined in favor of ZZ in her own story. It's pretty much ZigZag online now with guest appearances from Sabrina.

Furrynomous 2026/05/07 01:11:30 No.2567908

>>2567544
Guy really needs to put his characters in more unfamiliar situations or experiment with them more. You don't run a story for nearly 30 years and keep sticking them in safe, easy to reset situations.

Furrynomous 2026/05/09 15:18:35 No.2569104

>>2567544

I can sort of see why EWS stopped focusing on Sabrina.

From a narrative perspective, her story was "done". The comic started with her as a shy, single, under-employed nerd. It ends with her married, successful, her family situation settled (mostly), a social circle, and with a baby on the way.

I know we aren't supposed to use the s-word anymore, but in TV terms, that fits most series finales.

It also sort of fits EWS' writing. He never did much with Amy and Tommy once they tied the knot. Same with Spike and Carly.

I'm not saying a person's life ends once they're married or have kids. But as far as I'm aware EWS doesn't seem to have much perspective on that front. It's probably why the "new generation" of parents in this comic come off as so shallow and in-different to their kids.

Furrynomous 2026/05/11 06:38:42 No.2569871

>>2567358
I don't understand the appeal of those. I would rather see anything from the mainline zz studio cast.

Furrynomous 2026/05/31 04:43:26 No.2575280

From Eric's Patreon:

>"The next Sabrina Online comic story is in its early stages, set to debut in mid-June. The title for this chapter is "Frontlines and Backwoods". I won't go into detail here, but after the events of "Stripes and Links", Sabrina has earned a vacation and will be going on a trip with husband and daughter, knowing nothing of a growing power struggle she left behind.

>BE THERE!!"

So drama back at the studio while we have Sabrina in a rip-off of a lot of 80's road trip shenanigans comedy movies

Furrynomous 2026/05/31 07:25:16 No.2575312

>>2575280
I think the power struggle is going to be some toy thing, not at the studio. How can you have a power struggle with a ZigZag-caliber Marry Sue?

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