>>1274127
"consenting adult incest which does not result in pregnancy should be legal. "
The later caveot about not resulting in a pregnancy....what do you say in response to my contestment of that statement based on the fact that people willingly birth children with down syndrome and that births as a result of incest don't always result in defects? Where would the line be drawn then? You wish to take away reproductive rights of consenting humans to eliminate birth defects in their offspring? In response wouldn't it be also pertinent to force abortions of down syndrome screened expectant mothers, thus eliminating birth defects? It's not a civil right to be born without a defect, and several people (mostly pro-life) that would argue anything is better than not living, even severally fucked up. Mothers get screenings for their babies if they have severe defects or not to decide to abort or not and people have a problem with that. It's their right to abort, but what if they want to have a baby with the disability? It's their right no? Is it only a problem when someone willingly engaged in practices that drastically increase their odds of having a deformed baby? Another example are babies born addicted to drugs. they come out very fucked up. so do we take away reproductive rights from drug users? I don't see a compelling argument in favor of denying incest relations from having children. However strongly encouraged to adopt.
"just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's immoral." couldn't agree with you more. ESPECIALLY on grounds of sex I find. Because the law is deeply rooted in archaic religious history that has yet to change with the century.
"people should care about whether it's legal " of course they should care. Just like a lot of people care that male circumcision is perfectly legal, meanwhile female circumcision is illegal. morally its sexist, and immoral to harm a child, and legally it breaks equality laws.
I'm simply saying, the prosecutors follow the laws sanctioned by the people. If they tried to pass a law that made everyone pissed off, guess what, it wouldn't happen. You see it all the time with attempts to censor the internet, and the like. The laws are made by politicians who represent people. I vote for a politician who represents my voice. That's why its only with proper dialogue and education and openess that people change the mindset and attitude towards a topic in order to change anything in law.
Did you read that article you posted?
"No one has been arrested for bestiality in Washington since, to my knowledge.
Once the law came into effect, the whole Washington community of zoophiliacs moved to states where it was legal to do what they wanted to do. They were absolutely terrified of going to jail. When I talked to them, they weren't breaking the law, and they didn't want to. That's part of the reason this was never a for-profit animal prostitution ring type of thing. After James Michael Tait, the ringleader, was caught, he moved to Tennessee because there are no laws about bestiality there [Tait was arrested and charged with animal cruelty in Tennessee in 2009]. They don't want to be thought of like child pornographers or child molesters." How moral of the zoophiles and bestiality enthusiasts to not want to have their names tarnished by being so low as finding teens or children sexually attractive -rolls eyes-
If you mean ripped apart you mean casually moved? Yeah that's how easy it is. However. like the article quotes, "not a single bestiality conviction" its almost impossible to land...
Bestiality however is a WHOLE other argument I can go over, its another ridiculous archaic law written by hypocrites and people ignorant of basic logic or ethical discourse. A society that finds it okay to murder, butcher and consume animals in unfathomable numbers considers keeping them alive, caring for them and having sexual relations is soething that deserves a prison sentence? Idiots. Animal cruelty? Tell me more as you shove that piece of cow flesh into your pie hole...idiots. Oh, so the quality of life being supreme but putting your dick in, that's a no no, we much rather you keep it alive, long enough to butcher and eat. As long as it results in some kind of beneficial arrangement for someone other than your sexual satisfaction, we're good with however you decide to utilize the body parts of your animals, just not their dicks and vaginas, oh wait, we sell their dried up dismembered cocks to pet stores for dog treats...meanwhile let's become out raged finding someone has a sexual relationship with their horses or cows or dogs. As if you should give a fuck. Once again, personal disgust, is not an argument in favor of anything. I hate stupidity in that form so much. People who have a physical influence over your personal body...who pretend to empathize and cry "rape" when someone fucks a cow...and doesn't cry murder when they shove a burger in their mouth...? moral inconsistencies.
People who pretend to read animals minds. put themselves in the animals position when they have no fucking clue what their perspectives are. If I was a stallion, and was fucking a human, the last thing I would be thinking would be, "woe is me...someone please help me, I can't help it, my cock just goes really big and I ejaculate willingly into this human being, and willingly mount them...oh the humanity!"
I've worked with animals before, never in my experience of corralling pigs into a trailer and hauling off to get brutally slaughtered did I think to myself, "oh well, at least they're not being raped...." cause, our society puts rape, and sex crimes higher than fucking murder...which is beyond the pale of illogical. For example, you can murder a person...you paid for your crime, you served 10-20 years in prison, you get out. Guess what, you can move wherever you want, no one knows you. But as soon as you're a sex offender...well say good bye to privacy. Say good bye to your life cause everyone will hate you worse than if you murdered someone. Even the worst of the worst, lets say, full on child rapist, does their time, tries to clean up their act, she (haha just kidding no one gives a fuck about female child rapists)...he has to notify everyone living around him that he's a criminal....and will stay on that list and require massive amounts of bullshit to continue to live a normal life meanwhile being persecuted and fearful of their existence if someone ever decides to go vigilante on them. Because nothing says justice like murdering someone for a crime they paid for. people are irrational. We used to live in a society where if you offended someone or insulted someone you could legally challenge them to a deadly shoot out....oh I think you're a horrible human being and your wife is a whore, l challenge you do a duel....both consenting adults then engage in a lethal battle of who fatally shoots the other first...that existed barely...what...two hundred years ago? It's as if humans are predisposed to stupidity.
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