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Blackgate Furrynomous 2016/07/25 01:49:34 No.1098578   
Blackgate thread, numero trois I believe. Updates are at the end of every month.

Download new releases and support the project here: https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame

And check out the wiki here: http://blackgate.wikia.com/

Blackgate can also be found on social media at: https://twitter.com/blackgate_vn for the game + the creator's personal account (Bane!) is https://twitter.com/mytruebane

(This is a Diskussions and therefore should be in /d)
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Furrynomous 2016/07/25 05:05:08 No.1099563
Cheers for good work.
I am glad that enjoy again.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/25 09:31:45 No.1101481
I love this game novel thing
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Wulfy 2016/07/25 13:21:19 No.1102088
For those who missed the latest updates from the patreon:

16 July 2016 Friday Night Update:

Hi there Bane here,
It has been a while since I last did a Friday update. I'm getting back into the swing of things and with it are coming some Gruff stuff. It's gonna be rough Gruff stuff or maybe Gruff will stuff it rough? Last time on his route it was a cliffhanger, there will be resolution for those resolute enough to make the right decisions. Also in the works is some actual pay off with Krane, if you know what I mean. That's about it. I'm not dead yet.

And Saturday, Bane posted:

Hi there Bane here, Working on the latest update, weekend looks packed with visiting family. Update shall be Monday/Tuesday. Good news! 0.46 will have 8k words. Important! A FAQ will be released along side the update. While we have compiled several of your questions already, if anyone has any they think should be in, comment here! Mildly interesting news, we've read through the wikia for the first time. We're awed and humbled by the love and attention you guys have given to this game. But got to say, some of your theories are wild! And who made that spreadsheet?!


Expect next update today or tomorrow and then a likely end of month update later this week.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/25 21:06:15 No.1104131
Ah good, we're back. Too bad everything in the previous threads were lost.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/26 04:57:59 No.1106290
I can not wait.
Gruff is I want to see soon. And sex!
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 03:31:28 No.1111073
Need more Gruff sex. Hopefully the update comes out tonight...
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 05:56:06 No.1111551
>>1111073
don't trust bane to follow up on his release schedule. Always expect it to be about 2-3 days after.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:19:23 No.1111632
welp, he delivers have at it folks https://www.patreon.com/posts/blackgate-links-6155414
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:24:08 No.1111650
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:24:13 No.1111651
anyone have the krane WIP picture?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:33:05 No.1111701
Maybe heaven really does exist
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:35:05 No.1111711
When does it go public?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:38:02 No.1111725
patreon only?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:47:25 No.1111752
>>1098578
please tell me there are more pictures from this scene
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 06:52:13 No.1111774
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>>1111752

Just this
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 07:18:10 No.1111855
>>1111711
It's already public
>>1111725
No
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 07:30:49 No.1111901
>>1111855

The link just leads to an image saying "patrons only"
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 08:34:05 No.1112203
>>1111711
>>1111725
>>1111901

Getting the same thing, both the recent update and the FAQ are behind the Patron only paywall, if this is a sign of the way things are going to be I don't like it. Was a Patron for the $10 per release reward for about a year, work cut back hours, can't afford to do that anymore.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 11:03:26 No.1112400
>>1111752
well, e621.net has pictures of Blackgate (Gruff, Leraje (Plox), Jack, etc.)
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 12:30:23 No.1112463
do it free?
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Wulfy 2016/07/27 13:17:35 No.1112507
Just tried the link as a non patron, and the faq/links were available to me. Bane probably made a mistake and it is now fixed.

Note: Onedrive link is down because Bane "Exceeded his share limit." Which is an incredibly stupid feature on part of Microsoft.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 16:33:32 No.1112640
So i got through most of the options in gruff's new updates and here is some interesting points in it (I'm gonna do my best on not spoiling it for others)

1. Alin is the MVP for this update. Even though this update was about gruff i got a new insight and respect for alin. He's well surprisingly strong and reliable, when he's not drunk as fuck.

2. Kody knows alot, too much i suppose because it ends up costing him. He definately knows something is up with the mayor and blackgate, hopefully it will be revealed in future updates.

3.Though vincent, alin, and gruff are all greiving their losses. It seems like gruff and alin are taking it the hardest and doing it in a very self destructive way. Gruff really not is not taking the losses well(obviously since his night 5 update).

4. Gryz is a douche bag. How the hell is he so nonchalant about his son being on the border of life and death. He definitely blames gruff for angela and gear's death and has actually disowned him. Hell he even go as far as saying that he would dump his body off in the woods somewhere and not be buried next to his family because he doesn't deserve it. I'm really curious on what really went on that night and from gruff's side it seems like his older brother was possessed by something or someone. Given rotis's night 6 convo with plox and long'maw, i'm guessing plox had something to do with berserk gears. You think that experiencing a great loss like that you would hold on to your remaining family members, grieve with them and help them heal. Instead he just throws blame on someone for something that really was out of his control.

5. Apparently MC is a killer, i wonder if it happened during his blackout during night 5?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 17:07:47 No.1112651
>>1112640
Yeah that was really something. Seeing Kody become sharkfin soup and all.
Back on Jack's Night 6 I thought someone else murdered/put a corpse in the cabin but that's looking a lot less likely.

Honestly every update just gives more questions so I'm hoping there is an actual unified underlying story.

Also Alin confirmed MVP.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/07/27 19:29:00 No.1112699
Hi there Bane here,

In regards to the patreon page being all wonky and making things patron only, I didn't mean for that to happen and I definitely clicked make public but it auto resorted to patrons only. The links should be available for you all to see now. If not just yell... I can hear you scream from here. One drive hates me but the mediafire link should still be working. If you need a third hosting site let me know (dropbox doesn't work since it pulls another one drive after like ten downloads). There's a unified story. It's just telling it all from so any different angles naturally leads to questions. Also group sex is tougher than I thought. Who's on top? Who's on bottom? Is the human in the middle? These are the real important questions.
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Wulfy 2016/07/27 20:33:52 No.1112729
>>1112699
Bane:

The most difficult part about writing group sex is that everyone has an idea of how great it'd be yet it's actually really scary and awkward and weird. Even people who'd be really up for it don't generally end up loving it. The most normal way to conduct a group, let's say 3 way specifically, seems to be spit roasting.

Double pen: Problem is thrusting. One guy is basically stationary and his gratification is restricted to the rubbing of another person. The bottom is generally in pain without some sort of drug, and if you're not into that, woo-boy. Also, there's the added issue that it's not appealing to MOST people of a bottom who is actually opened up enough to take two dicks (particularly from the monsters in your story) at once.

Train-penetration: Okay, so this seems almost fine, but their is a topological problem in the grouping. If all three are standing, then the guy on bottom is no going to get a very good thrust, but let's say the guy in the middle is the only one who moves. Well, he's heavily restricted by the top's cock and managing to bounce back and then forward without slipping is really difficult, but for a story, there's almost too many feelings at once to easily describe without doubling back to cover what was happening simultaneously. With spit roasting, it's easier because the guys can interact, and the writing becomes more natural. With a story-teller in the middle, it's difficult to give much detail short of "Hey man, let me tell you about this sweet hook-up I had with..."

Once you get into details, it gets clustered and weird to read.

If the story-teller isn't in the middle, it's almost lame. Oh man, that guy banged you while taking it, huh? That's...great...

On a related note, there is a (sorry in advance) brony comic that involved a bit of group fun and while I'm not a fan of the art from the series, this comic is actually very good at handling it. Essentially, the pony ends up taking turns with a couple of gryphons, and it's basically a spit roast, into the top nailing him while the guy who was recieving oral watches, then when the top cums, the guy who was waiting convinces the bottom to have another turn, and then more sex. Which is a kind of nice if not cheap out of doing a threesome. But to be honest, it was more enjoyable to read and it's one of the few multi-partner sex scenes where I thought, "Yeah, I'd like to be one of those guys."

In that case, it's sort of like...watching a porn and then getting to join in (if you're oral into sex), OR back to back sex with people who are into you, which is like performing and then getting another guy so riled up he just wants to keep the game going. (I'm gonna link it here https://e621.net/post/show/698144/clothing-comic-cover-english_text-equine-etchpony-).


Personally? I'm far more of a top, but I find the monsters on top more sexually gratifying. Maybe I'm alone there.

In any case, I think a threesome scene can be really fun and different, but it could also unintentionally suck. Mostly cause it just seems better in our heads than it actually is.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/27 23:28:37 No.1112781
>>1112699

We need a scene where Vincent bottoms. Make my dreams come true
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 03:49:33 No.1112844
>>1112729
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I think that most of the issues you raise can be mitigated with a bit of suspension of disbelief. Porn is a fantasy, after all, and so doesn't really need to follow all of the logistics of real sex. As long as it's written well, of course.

>Personally? I'm far more of a top, but I find the monsters on top more sexually gratifying. Maybe I'm alone there.
I'm a bit more of a switch, and while I do agree that having the monsters top can be very sexy, I kinda sorta hate the "the human/protagonist/human protagonist bottoms always and forever" trope that a lot of furry stories seem to have. And which, bar Alin, seems to be the road Blackgate is heading down currently. Variety is the spice of life, as they say, and reading variations of "I got fucked by the big sexy beast and it was awesome" over and over gets... very, very boring. For me, at least.

Of course, we don't know what exactly Bane has planned. Maybe a few of the characters we haven't seen sex scenes for may be bottoms, or even switches (please oh please oh please). I guess we'll just have to see, but it's my personal hope that it's something Bane's at least considering.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 04:13:54 No.1112846
Hi there Bane here,

>>1112844
I can assure you that not all of them are tops as evident by Alin. Alin is just the bara bottom flavor. Krane is a switch. Gruff is a switch. Hilariously enough Vincent likes to top for the same reason Leraje and Rotis are tops (something about having power and yatta yatta). Although, Rotis' character development pushes him more towards bottoming/ being in your debt/ honor bound type stuff. So you can top him eventually. Longma is DEFINITELY a bottom. I try to keep things different but makes sense. Make sense in the way that a town filled with monsters and other cosmic things with mystery and death and all of that can make sense.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 04:17:23 No.1112847
>>1112846
Gruff is a switch? Oooh boy this is gonna be good!
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 04:50:01 No.1112852
>>1112846
Thank you very much for the reply, Bane. I can honestly say that you've kinda made my night, and not just because you've mentioned a few things that I was hoping for very much. I definitely agree that things, above all, need to make sense for the characters, and since they are what made me fall in love with Blackgate, it's great to hear that you're taking such care to keep things consistent with them.

Also, I'm sorry if my earlier comment was a bit harsh. But, again, thank you very much for dispelling my worries.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 04:53:38 No.1112853
>>1112846
Gruff is a verse now, interesting.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 05:02:28 No.1112854
I'm glad Gruff is switch. I like that size play
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 05:24:16 No.1112856
It was good that Gruff was survival...
Probably two people become the affection. I want to go together.
Should love Gruff more. and want sex!
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 05:51:11 No.1112871
>>1112846
Oh boy this is gonna be good.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 06:06:05 No.1112874
>>1112846
>not all versatile/switch
lame
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 06:26:42 No.1112899
Following is worrisome.
I can not wait.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 07:48:41 No.1112924
>>1112856
did you use google to translate that?
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Wulfy 2016/07/28 14:46:50 No.1113719
>>1112874
Lame but accurate. I mean, I can't imagine having a good time if, say, Rotis bottomed. It doesn't really make sense for his character, nor does it makes sense for plox/leraje. Since I predominantly appeal to top, it's a power/domination play for me. THat's also why I like the monsters on top, but some are obvious, such as Longma being on bottom. And since Alin is a power bottom, it works (although a scene where the player and Alin are on "equal" footing a la 69ing would be nice), with his personality.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 15:47:28 No.1113784
>>1112924
There's only one country that comes to mind when I see google translate Otsukaresama.

>>1112856
You've got some good taste over there.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 17:33:17 No.1113951
>>1113719
I think Rotis bottoming is pretty hot :P
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Bookwyrm 2016/07/28 18:49:58 No.1114012
>>1113719
Totally agreeing with >>1113951 here, it can make sense for Rotis to become versatile, as part of his character growth.

Now I kinda wonder about the construction Route. Crome acts bold, but is insecure when confronting something he doesn't know, so he might turn out to be a bottom. Eterni... he might be versatile? So far he looks like the monster with the most balanced personality. Malo... uh... that's a tricky one. I mean he's so adorable and naive, so I'd say bottom, but who knows?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 19:31:28 No.1114025
Bane you made me cry but now I know certain character can be saved.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/28 22:05:19 No.1114221
>>1114012


I'll third liking the idea of Rotis bottoming, because I think it would be one good way to show that he's getting close to and trusts MC if he's taking the submissive position. Also, I'm glad to hear about Rotis' development since I enjoy his route.

As for the Construction trio, I agree that Malo would likely be the bottom of the bunch, his personality kind of fits for it. Crome I think will be versatile since his insecurities can cause him to be distant, so I think he can be either position. Eterni I have no clue, he really could go either way.
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Wulfy 2016/07/28 22:11:05 No.1114227
>>1113951
I like to put myself in the position of characters in stories. And with its awkwardness and sort of sadness about it, I actually think Rotis is one of the few I'd be fine submitting to. In terms of rational responses, his is the most sensible. He's strong and powerful by most accounts, but he's not overconfident and thinks he can do everything. Plus, his route helps you appreciate being with him and it promises one of the best outcomes in terms of "would I stay with this character long term?"

My "husbando" would be Krane because I'm a fucking weird person (it was originally Alin), but with either of these two, the ultimate outcomes appears to be something along the lines of a fun adventure, but ultimately, I'm going to come back home. I couldn't imagine forsaking my actual life to stay there even if the charactesr are hot, lovable, or worthy of my friendship.

Rotis, however, wants to escape. He's pretty impassioned about it, and he's open to helping me get home and in a weird way, traveling the galaxy with my closest friends with a new love would be great.

For those who care, IRL, I'm engaged to a girl and in a closed relationship. But Rotis is one of the few who I feel ...yeah, let's try a partnership with all of us. My family could explore the stars and that's ultimately the goal of humans anyway (to develop tech to do that).

So, it's one of the few endings that I'd, personally, work toward, EVEN IF the game ends up making it clear that this cannot happen.

I dunno if Rotis (or any) route has a positive ending. However, I wouldn't be utterly surprised if Rotis along with most routes have a different if not altogether expected ending (waking up at home on Earth).

I am really excited to play through more routes and while I know Bane is working hard, I'm really anxious to get to the end of the story because it's a lot of build up with the occasional "here's a sex scene to relieve some tension. XD"


On another note, Leraje and Gruff routes are the only ones seeming to indicate the story progressing. Krane is mentioned to be doing something on Gruff's Night 6, but if he goes to Helle by himself, I'd be very surprised if things turn out well for him. He's a weird stalker character who needs help controling himself. I think the only good ending for Krane is his route, but I'd be surprised if it turns out well for the MC as well.

Anyway, I'm off. :D
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Furrynomous 2016/07/29 12:35:23 No.1115054
Good to see this thread is back!

>>1112846
I know it's a long shot, but I'm hoping Andras is an option and that he's a top. I'll also be interested to see if Helle is a dom or a sub, I would guess the latter because it contrasts her normal assertiveness.

>>1114227
>I dunno if Rotis (or any) route has a positive ending.

I think it's highly doubtful Leraje will allow people to leave Blackgate. It would diminish his power. But more importantly, I think there is a conspiracy with the Watchers as indicated in Eterni's route, where they are essentially running and using Blackgate as a labor camp. Surely they would not allow their laborers to leave.

Plus, there is a contradiction between closing the gate and allowing people to leave.

It would be interesting to see if this actually happens, and Rotis realizes the folly of trusting Laraje, and that he will never be allowed to go home. We shall see.
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Bookwyrm 2016/07/29 17:23:06 No.1115096
>>1115054
>I think it's highly doubtful Leraje will allow people to leave Blackgate. It would diminish his power. But more importantly, I think there is a conspiracy with the Watchers as indicated in Eterni's route, where they are essentially running and using Blackgate as a labor camp. Surely they would not allow their laborers to leave.

Therefore the Watchers should work against Leraje, considering that they depend on Andras pulling people in Blackgate to upkeep the flow of Edgless Stones.
I also expect them to work against Andras's plan as well though, since if the Eternal is destroyed, there will be no more stones.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/29 18:04:19 No.1115251
>>1114227
My husbando for the game would be gruff, character and story wise he's gotten a big improvement over the earlier builds of the game. He's a bit more affectionate towards MC now and is opening up to him. I like him because i know how it feels to die on the inside, to kinda numb yourself emotionally so it doesn't get the better of you and it's a very painful thing to do especially when you have no one to talk to or have a positive outlet. Finding out gruff isn't the cool calm and collected type he appears to be post night 5 He grieves for his loss, and to make matters worse, his relationship with his ONLY living relative is beyond repair. Though i feel like gryz is being unfair for throwing all the blame on gruff. Gruff's story is definatly interesting and has nice progression. Though i hope to see more rotis, krane, and helle story updates as well.


Also congrats on your engagement.

>>1115096
I always feel like laraje never had the best of blackgate in mind, he's just using his influence over the cult to gain pawns who will believe his "make blackgate great again" plan. He's definitely more sinister than the rest of the cast and definitely should not be trusted. Though i want to see more of plox/laraje's route unfold.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/29 18:25:45 No.1115329
>>1115251
Really? Plox got sinister than Vekk or Jack?

I should really stop taking a look at this thread as I haven't played the game since the update that introduced Vekk's route. Good to see things coming along, will have a blast when I get my hands on the entire thing and play it to the end.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/29 19:00:06 No.1115376
>>1115329
Wow, you are WAY behind.
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Wulfy 2016/07/29 20:53:47 No.1115514
>>1115251
tfw engaged for years.

Not gonna lie...ya miss penis XD

I dunno. The gruff/andras conference was a little disconcerting. I'm also not super sure that he's affectionate toward you. Maybe a bit, but I guess he's not my type. I find him more...
friendly than romantic.
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Bookwyrm 2016/07/29 21:32:40 No.1115523
>>1115251
>I always feel like laraje never had the best of blackgate in mind, he's just using his influence over the cult to gain pawns who will believe his "make blackgate great again" plan. He's definitely more sinister than the rest of the cast and definitely should not be trusted. Though i want to see more of plox/laraje's route unfold.

My thoughts as well. He's just power-hungry and he's envious of Andras, because he was smarter and he didn't charge the Eternal head on, so he didn't lose his powers in the first place.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 01:44:10 No.1115754
Haven't played in a while. Do we know when this will be finished?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 03:20:19 No.1115846
>>1115514
He becomes affectionate to you night 4 onwards, that's how i felt. Especially if you get the option of holding his hand on night 4. Night 5 onwards he's starting to open up to you.
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Suggestion? Furrynomous 2016/07/30 03:34:55 No.1115850
Fellas! I need more Kitako!

Am I the only one who went that route on purpose?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 05:44:33 No.1115893
I like kitako, too.
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Wulfy 2016/07/30 06:14:18 No.1115909
>>1115850
I really don't like Kitako. XD I never understood people who wanted this route, but more power to ya? lol
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 07:19:59 No.1116063
>>1115909
Oh come on he's cool, he's a really interestingly built character which easily makes him my favorite. The way he gets into it before the home invasion was just the best; it was also so funny. Without him there's no point playing the library route in my honest opinion. He's right up there with Alin and Cop Routes as my favorite.

Come on, don't you want to share your heat XP
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 08:44:45 No.1116137
kitako feels that there is not much popularity.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 09:45:47 No.1116156
I like Kitako as a character but not for the sexy times
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Furrynomous 2016/07/30 10:59:03 No.1116168
>>1115850
Aside from a good ol thermal transfer I haven't seen enough to really judge if I like him or not or if I'd consider him trustworthy. Than again that was quite a while ago before Leraje and Andras so maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/31 08:17:24 No.1117335
>>1115850
i have a thing or big guys so yeah i like kitako. top 3 for me
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Bookwyrm 2016/07/31 08:28:56 No.1117336
>>1116063
While I'm a fan of big guys as well, Kitako is a bit too... different. I mean, he can be a good bodyguard, but I don't know if I'd put my trust in a monster whose mind is even more alien than the other Blackgate citizens.
Compare him to, let's say, Eterni. I mean, Kitako would sure beat him in terms of brute strength, but what about brains?
Eterni, or Gruff, or Crome are smart enough to figure out less apparent dangers; it's not like Kitako could be of much help in a situation where you can't just smash the problem to a bloody pulp (not that you can fight E-shards by conventional means anyway). Maybe his different way of cognition could help MC to think out of the box as well, but that seems rather situational and not too reliable. Then again, just because his speech pattern is different it doesn't necessarily mean he's dumb.
I can understand that him being so different is part of his appeal, though; I mean, a route with him will sure make the story a whole different experience.
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Furrynomous 2016/07/31 16:45:37 No.1117972
Is this being updated again today or should I just download 0.46?
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Furrynomous 2016/07/31 19:40:51 No.1118216
Is the mobile version of this game going to ever be updated?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/01 03:54:08 No.1119640
Version 0.47 is out. It's a Vincent update.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/blackgate-links-6155414
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Furrynomous 2016/08/01 03:59:24 No.1119655
>>1119640
>>1116168
I take it back, Kitako's pretty cool what with that built GPS like heat vision.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/01 04:12:11 No.1119672
>>1119640

i thought he said he was doing stuff with krane

boo :(
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Furrynomous 2016/08/01 04:24:11 No.1119676
>>1119672
You will get your fill (or should I say get filled :p) in the next update. Bane posted a sketch and Darkgem is already teasing it on twitter, too.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/01 04:58:25 No.1119682
Any new sex in 0.46 or 0.47? I can't take being blueballed again
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Wulfy 2016/08/01 17:03:58 No.1120435
>>1119682
No, I got mildly blueballed. Waiting on my husbando Krane like (sonovabitch)
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Furrynomous 2016/08/02 00:37:06 No.1120647
bannnnnneeeeeeeeee

pls gib krane
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Furrynomous 2016/08/02 01:39:56 No.1120678
Fuck, I know it's probably going to be a while but I'm so anxious for the Krane update. Please be good...

Also, Krane confirmed for switch? Perfect husbando confirm. (As if there was any doubt.)
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Furrynomous 2016/08/02 04:34:33 No.1120870
>>1119640
>Something went wrong with One Drive

Fucking A, why am I not surprised
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Furrynomous 2016/08/02 17:10:25 No.1121563
Finally some more Vincent time, I've been waiting for this for quite a while. This update felt really good
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Furrynomous 2016/08/02 19:42:41 No.1121671
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Possible spoilers ahead.

By replaying Vincent's route after quite some time, something that caught my interest were the tarot cards on Sooth's apartment. Since I'm crazy about this stuff, I went and looked for their meanings. The results are quite interesting. Nothing mind-blowing but interesting nonetheless. And that's why I'm sharing it.

I also made a picture showing how most likely the cards were arranged. For better understanding. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but please bear with me.

-At the top are the faced down cards.

-On the left there are:
The Tower: It's meaning is rarely positive. Means change and crisis.
The "Shit's going down" card.

Ten of Swords: Means destruction, incapability, hopelessness.
How delightful for it to be just below The Tower.

Knight of Wands: Travel, determination.
Next to those other two "Obliterate everything" cards? Uhh, I got nothing.

-Next, on the right, are the four cards in sequence:
The Fool (Upside down): Creativity, potential. It's upside down, so maybe it means the opposite?
Maybe it's the protagonist? The Fool always means the protagonist.

King of Swords: Intellectual understanding, maturity.
The "king and swords" deal makes me think of Andras. But keep reading and it would make a ton more sense if the King of Swords meant Vincent.

Justice: It means justice. Don't know what I was expecting. It also means objectivity and rationality.
Gruff comes to mind.

Devil (Upside down): Addictions, A "slave to ones' own impulse and feelings".
It's Alin. The other meaning is commitment and awareness. It's got to be him.

Yeah, these four cards likely mean the "Four warriors of light" of the game.

-There's also the three cards that were missing. More characters? I just have a feeling that Andras HAS to be in there somewhere. And considering him and Aradina seem to be routes within Vekk's route... I wonder...
I could, of course, be completely wrong since I don't even KNOW which cards were missing. Or just completely wrong in general. Aradina is mostly speculation but Bane DID give hints before and, again, Vekk's route.

Any toughts?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 00:03:03 No.1121798
>mac version just links to the windows download

When did my favorite VN become... this?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 00:40:47 No.1121835
>>1121671
Yay, I'm not alone!
Anyways, I looked it up some time ago and tried to find what the cards meant
So the faceup cards were arranged into three sets (like in your picture), according to one of the spreads (i forgot which one though) it represents past, present and future
Past: Ten of swords and Tower. I intepreted this as a tragedy or crisis that was linked to betrayal. Could it be the library incident? Or perhaps further back, the destruction of the old Blackgate?

Present: Knight of Wands, it can represent adventure, determination and being full of energy. I think this somewhat refers to the MC and his arrival in Blackgate

Future: Reversed Fool (since it's upside down), which refers to foolishness or naivete,
King of Swords, authority or responsibility
Justice, truth or cause
Reversed Devil, breaking free or reclaimation of power

The future, I intepret it as the MC, with all his naivete or freshness(?) to how things work in Blackgate (I'm sure everyone else is pretty jaded already), is or would be put into a position of responsibility to find out the truth behind Blackgate and liberate it

I'm not sure about the missing cards though, they could be just a ruse
That's what I got anyways xD
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 00:44:56 No.1121838
Oh hey, Gruff now has a moving portrait
When did that happen? Is he the only one?
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Wulfy 2016/08/03 01:08:44 No.1121849
>>1121838
If you mean sprite, he's had the most sprites of any character for a fairly long while. So, his always "moved" or was just inherently more expressive.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 01:48:54 No.1121857
Man, that Vincent update was great. Nice to see more of him being nice too.
But was it a continuity issue that Rotis was at the bar when Alin and Kody are fighting? The narration says he was one of the few that stayed to watch, but hes already dead.

Does he not die if you are following Kitako or Logma's path?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 02:09:32 No.1121868
>>1121857
I'm guessing Bane just copypasta'd that part from Gruff's update, and Rotis is alive in Gruff's route.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 02:41:49 No.1121921
>>1121835
Oh, nice! I guess I didn't look far enough to understand that the sets meant past, present and future. In that case then it makes a LOT more sense.

It seems to, roughly, tell the events of that happened/will happen. The "Shit goes down" to "Human appears" to finally "The four warriors of light join up"-kinda thing. The "past" prediction seems to be especially interesting since, again, Andras seems to have some knowledge to the past of Blackgate and the human. What with the Gruff update and all. (What doesn't Andras have knowledge on at this point?)

I'm still bothered by the missing cards but I guess the real importance of the prediction would be WHO received it. In which I have no idea who could be.

...We'll have to wait. Like usual. This is fun stuff, though. It's nice to see such little details in games like these. You have to really look for it to understand it, assuming you didn't already know.

Also, Persona-inspired cards. Thought I should do a silly reference to it in a picture since it's tarot we're talking about.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 03:46:37 No.1121979
Honestly, I kinda just get thrown off by how quickly you just have to accept everything, y'know? Unless I missed something during the whole of Night 1, they never explain WHY you can't leave or WHY you HAVE to stay. I just feel like that missing bit is pretty crucial, especially when it's implied that your character is throwing away their entire lives up to that point without so much of an argument. Cuz in that place I would be pretty fucking upset
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 03:56:46 No.1121996
>>1121979
They do explain why you can leave. Im pretty sure most paths do explain that you can TRY to leave if you want, but you won't get far.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 04:07:48 No.1122009
>>1121996
But then again, most of them are rather vague or cryptic statements
Like, can't cross over due to being made of live fleshy bits or amassing enough fortune can help one to leave
Stuff like that
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 04:14:59 No.1122014
>>1122009
Well they seem to be pretty clear about the whole "If you try to leave the premises of Blackgate, you will die" aspect.

The more obscure parts are the actual ways you can leave Blackgate
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 04:37:25 No.1122025
>>1122014
Here's the thing though, they say that but from your character's view didn't you JUST drive there with little to no issues other than your car breaking down? They never give any sort of evidence aside from their word, either. It's just my own personal critique that that portion of the story seems a tiny bit ham-fisted to me, and I'm not talking about Gruff
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 04:39:47 No.1122030
>>1122025
I mean how you entered is magic. Unless they do explain more, I don't think they really NEED to explain more about how you wound up there specifically.
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Wulfy 2016/08/03 04:44:52 No.1122037
>>1121979
>>1122014
So, on most routes, it's at least partially explained, but imagining myself in this situation, it's pretty easy to figure out how you might accept it.

Without any real memories in a dream, you assume things are fine. This human phenomenon was used to great affect in the House, M.D. episode "No Reason."

Minor spoilers, House cannot recall how the scene transition happens. They walk down stairs talking about a patient, but he suddenly stops and asks, "How did we get here?" This happens several times, even though the audience readily accepts this break in time because of the standard pacing of an episode of any TV show. For us, we normally jump in when the director starts a scene, but House rejects this because his character is *literally* experiencing these jumps and slowly begins to realize that he's hallucinating and that he should remember how he got there.

Much the same, we dream and perhaps start to fabricate memories from our real life to fit the dream world. For me, I had one dream where a memory completely rejected the world I was in, and it caused me to try and fix them together until I realized I was dreaming (I have no control over this and it didn't become a lucid dream, even though when I wake up, the fact it was a dream seems painfully obvious.)

So, for at least the first night, the characters assertion that he's asleep in his car seems reasonable. He even asserts "this can't be real."

Later, on Nights 2 and 3, he starts to accept this new reality because the one thing humans have forgotten about themselves is their ability to cope. In fact, the ability to accept massive changes of reality (outside of literature where we want things to make sense) is an important theme in blackgate. MC's lack of empathy for someone he doesn't know dying shocks and scares the other citizens.

By N4, you're given a "satisfying" answer on why you can't leave or how you can in virtually every route except construction. But in construction, the reality of your situation has literally almost killed you.

As for Police, Charlie explains how he travels "like riding waves, but if you fall off, you die." and in Bar, you are offered a ticket to "win" the chance to go home.


The best part about blackgate is our beautiful and limited understanding of the universe. In theory, the blackgate scenario presented to a human, an average but well-read human, would seem very plausible.

For one, wormholes are not actually restricted to a big galactic event, and so the idea of driving through one into the far reaches of the universe, perhaps another planet, makes sense.

We do NOT know what blackmatter is, so the potential for it to be some godlike being isn't farfetched so far as we are still primitive enough to accept that maybe its some sort of lesser god-like being or a creature so advanced that what it does appears to be magic (note, we understand today that "any sufficiently advanced technology is equivalent to magic to a primitive mind" and that would appear to be the case here).

So, blackgate works because it has a nice theme, pokes fun the human condition (Human Psychology is in the fiction section, haha), and works pretty solidly to create trepidation and encourage closeness to one or two characters.


On a super unrelated note, I really thought more about if I were the MC, and I'm about a 100% certain that I'd take some particular routes based on the random chance involved in the police route and otherwise.

For those who wanna hear my stupid thoughts, keep reading.

Police
Gruff-
Wind up with Alin because I cannot fucking handle how hot he is, and I'd likely decide to stay the first night there, take him aside, and ask him if he was actually interested in dinner or was just flirty with everyone. If he was flirty/affirmative, I'd likely stay there till they closed, and offer to walk him home for Helle, which i'd do every night until (see Alin's route).

Krane
-I'd totally end up with the bat. <3 This route's spot on.

Plox
-Whew boy, I'd reject him outright, which might be rude, but I don't find Plox engaging enough. I wouldn't follow him, probably end up on some side route. And this ends up well cause as hot as "use me daddy" Leraje is, he is strictly not my type. I'd die 90% of the time here because if I had to stay on Plox' house N5, he'd kill me cause I'd hang out at the bar, Meet Alin, see Alin's route. These groups are probably not friendly.

Rotis-
Gimmie, gimmie. <3 I like a challenge and he's so silly and hot. I love it.

Library:
I'd almost strictly end up with Vincent/Alin, depending on if I was allowed to stay with Alin. Even though I'd prefer a switch (see krane), Alin is just 1000% my type cause fucking wolf-man, is hot, man. I wouldn't end up with Kitako ever. He's too alien to me, and Longma certainly has an appeal, so I'd be interested if he wasn't so...distant.

Bartender
Alin.

Sorry sharkdude/cow woman. Fucking Alin, man. <3


Construction
I would never choose this job. If vekk forced me into it, and I had my choice, they all seem fine to me. Hyena boy seems a bit better than others if not for being a tad bit of a moron, but it's pretty clear that he's sweet if not too distant for my taste. However, this is what I'd do as ME in this game, and let's be real, I'm not made for this. Even though its not construction, if someone offered me that gig, I'd think hard, back breaking work and instantly nope.gif the fuck outta that.

...long post is long...
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 05:20:11 No.1122079
>>1122037
Sorry, but you lost me the moment you started talking about House. Lemme give you my thoughts by bulletpoint as if I were the MC

1: Car breaks down middle of nowhere. Shitty situation but not unusual.
2: Turn on radio app on phone and hear someone talking about a "metallic object with living organism inside". Nobody talks like that unless they're an extreme shut-in or an alien badly pretending to be human. Suspicion is at peak.
3: Assuming you waited anyway or didn't hear the radio message, cop car pulls up and immediately you're told to get on the ground or die. Overreaction much? Did I drive onto a military base by mistake?
4: Fast forward a bit and this guy is telling you you HAVE to give them your car because "we need it more than you because lol reasons". You're given the "choice" of staying for the rest of your forseeable life or dying. Why? Not explained, just that "it's dangerous to go alone".
5: You're given a cabin and at no point does the idea of making a break for it occur to you? Why should you trust these people?

A normal person isn't going to assume it's all a dream for long and afterward the likelyhood of them just accepting their fate is NOT going to be a thing for anyone I've ever met. It's "Fight or Flight" not "Lay down and accept what's happening". THIS is why I think it's not handled well, the MC's Fight or Flight just turns off almost instantly.

PS: I'm sorry but, what??? Wormholes?? Dark matter?? What have you been smoking and where can I get me some of that cuz it's gotta be good.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 05:26:40 No.1122083
The new update was pretty great.
But i got multiple error messages during it. And it played the music that played during Vincent's sex scene the entire update.

Which I mean wasn't terrible, since its a better song than the usual sex scene music.

Speaking of, is everyone getting multiple sex scenes?
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Wulfy 2016/08/03 07:25:57 No.1122131
>>1122079
I'm making a psychological note and how rapidly humans adapt to situations. The House episode uses this effect, which Blackgate also uses, which is why it drops hints in the changing mental state. I also note that the dream explanation ends by the start of N2, but at this point, protagonist is in a situation and due to N1 has some reference for how things happen. The routes then go on to explain things like how one could escape and why it's dangerous/unlikely.


Finally, you are confused by dark matter and wormholes?

Dark Matter is discussed heavily in Rotis' route, and I'd assume many people over 20 (I first read of it around the age of 13) would at least have the basic knowledge that MC mentions, that we don't really know what it is and that it makes of most of the known universe. (MC doesn't mention, of course, that we detect it because of its affect on light.)


As for wormholes, my point is that out limited REAL LIFE understanding of such things like wormholes would allow MC to accept that some super advanced science (ie, appears to us to be magic) transported him to Blackgate, and a wormhole is a valid argument for how he got there. An EMP-type device affecting his car explains the "sudden breakdown."

Bane clearly understands the human mind, and it stands to reason that a person in a similar situation would form a chain of causality, no matter how faulty, to explain how one arrives in a situation. Once that is established, human beings will continue to improve their situation, usually by manipulating their environment to their advantage. This behavior is actually a motif of Blackgate, the VN, which is why Bane has other characters point out that its weird for MC to not be particularly bothered by the death of those who he didn't know personally. To him, death just happens, but it's part of the human condition. We don't care for anything that isn't related to us the way we morally think people should. So, if these "monsters" seem to be more morally accurate than humans, and Bane points that out.

He also has Kody mention "things seem to work out for humans," but that's just how it appears to monsters. More accurately, humans rationalize fucking everything. If something goes wrong, we say we should have seen it coming and then make the best out of it. We always focus on our minor accomplishments and ignore major problems while pretending they don't matter, it'll solve itself. Sure, it probably doesn't, but the fact is life never really bites people in the ass the way it should. It's actually a commentary on people, and it's done really well.

I am, however, pointing out that the science as we understand it now is the prefect time for this VN because we don't understand it well enough for it to not be, essentially, magic. However, we do understand it well enough that if a reasonable human who paid attention in HS science classes were to be thrown into this situation, they'd know just enough to not become useless and shellshocked but instead actually contribute to their society on some level. Yes, magic exists in their world, but for the first few nights, the scientific understanding we currently have allows a human to create the initial chain of events that maintains sanity.

As a point of contention, I strongly disagree with the implication Bane leaves us regarding Newton and Amelia. Certainly Newton, the historical man, was such a man of science that perhaps he would have been able to survive and learn from these strange creatures, though it cheapens his intuitive understanding of the universe by having him learn Calculus from sources beyond our scope of knowledge.

Amelia on the other hand? Woo, I realize that he has her "disappearance" tied to never coming back from Blackgate and some sort of accident involving Vinny and others, but I'm not sold that she could have maintained her sanity. Unlike Newton, she didn't have that level of intellect and soundness, but instead was more an adventurer. Eh, I digress and no one living really knows either's psyche well enough to establish if they would mentally handle such an event. In any case, I realize you probably stopped reading this but to those who did, hopefully this clears up my previous point.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 07:32:55 No.1122132
>>1122025
What if the real twist is that Blackgate is still on earth and you're just in the middle of the forest and it's all a big fucking lie?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 08:10:25 No.1122136
>>1122132
Or it's all just a dream. Then the MC dies of sadness because his monster husbands aren't real.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/03 08:46:39 No.1122252
>>1122131
Ok, can I just mention that you first responded assuming I've had at least 1 playthrough of the game involving a certain character. I only just tried it out a few hours ago. So referencing that lost me entirely.

On another note, I sincerely have to disagree that this would be how someone would naturally react to this situation. In fact, I'd had to say that in order for the MC to accept things as quickly as they do they would have to have some small sense that they were in a game and that none of the concerns actually mattered.

The progression of acceptance is much like the stages of grief: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance.
While the MC does have a short period of denial, they move straight past the other 3 and into acceptance. I only played the Gruff route and my MC only showed anger near the very end, just before the sex scene. It seems to require you to dispose of immersion for the storytelling to work.

> other characters point out that its weird for MC to not be particularly bothered by the death of those who he didn't know personally

Again, you're assuming I've seen a variety of routes, because I didn't see this at all in Gruff's.

Also, we must have had VERY different upbringings if you would find yourself so willing to throw away the life, family, and friends you had to unquestioningly accept another, completely alien, life as your new reality. Which is why I cannot understand your assertions that "this is a brilliant show of how a normal human would react" because I have never met anyone in my 27 years who would fit that description.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 01:00:17 No.1124676
Looks like the krane scene is done. Hope the wait isn't too long.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co9nrZOXYAAGjoj.jpg:large
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 02:30:34 No.1124766
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Bat Balls
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 03:19:10 No.1124816
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 14:17:45 No.1125196
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>>1124676
Krane doesn't have an actual bat face this time? Good.

Because in the other scene... Well, let's just say MC's hand accurately depicts my reaction.

https://youtu.be/-2phajBXE8g?t=310
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Lusteroy 2016/08/05 14:22:03 No.1125198
How did you get the picture of Krane ? Not on the last vers of BG or am I wrong ?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 16:17:21 No.1125227
>>1124816
>>1125196
So instead of looking creepy but realistic, Krane now just looks stupid as fuck. Great-o.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/05 16:30:02 No.1125231
>>1125227
He looks actually just fine but that's just my personal opinion
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Wulfy 2016/08/05 17:37:32 No.1125244
>>1125196
To be honest, I think both are okay, but I slightly preferred hyper realistic Krane bat to this one. But really, both are acceptable interpretations of his sprite.

His spirte, however, seems a bit more dignified while the scene seems to have him a bit like Goofy, which is sorta fine cause he's...cuter?

I dunno, I think his Sprite his handsome, the hyper real one is mesmerizing and the new one to be "cute."

I woulda liked something a bit less "funny" face wise, but I'm not the author nor a patron (cause I'm fuckin' broke).
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Wulfy 2016/08/05 17:39:20 No.1125246
Side note: Rotis is a little different in his scene, and plox gets more manly in his shower scene, but luckily, Alin is hella spot on for his sprite. So, go Alin <3

(Double post cause I'm an idiot)
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Furrynomous 2016/08/06 02:02:57 No.1125651
I just thought of something today... wouldn't Krane do better in the construction route instead of the police route? I think a batman would do best in a cave, where he could echo-locate paths and treasures, hide in darkness, and be alone in a lower level.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/06 18:15:25 No.1126004
Wow Krane looks like fucking Donkey now.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/07 04:18:34 No.1126319
>>1124766
>>1124816
Is there two different pieces of artwork for the same scene?

Are we getting a continuation of the defanged route?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/07 09:16:19 No.1126511
>>1126004
You're absolutely right. Oh, that pitfall of thinking that "longer snout = better". Darkgem, why...
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Furrynomous 2016/08/07 23:02:05 No.1126836
meh I like how Krane looks there

The super realistic face kinda creeped me out LOL
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Furrynomous 2016/08/08 04:48:04 No.1127057
>>1127038

NOBODY RESPOND TO THIS. IT'S A GOD DAMN TRAP!!! D:<
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Furrynomous 2016/08/08 07:10:38 No.1127158
I just downloaded and installed the android version on my phone but can't find it anywhere, help
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Wulfy 2016/08/08 08:59:48 No.1127288
>>1126511
Yanno, there was something off about the picture, and it might be snout size. Looking at Vampir bat pictures showed you might be right.
>>1126836
I liked the hyper realisim, but correct me if I'm wrong, I believe that Darkgem made the shower scene as well.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/08 13:27:24 No.1127332
>>1127288
Yes he did but I bet some chucklefucks complained about the style of that pic. So it isn't Darkgem's fault since he can draw realistically. Blame the normies.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/08 19:03:54 No.1127436
>>1127340
"hi guys im self aware"

please go and stay go
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Furrynomous 2016/08/09 01:30:51 No.1127961
I'm conflicted about Krane's new appearance...

On one hand, making his snout longer, giving him normal eyes and beefing him up makes him more conventionally attractive. But it takes away from the more feral/exotic feeling of Blackgate, which makes the characters feel more flawed and real. The relationship is interspecial, which means there will always be differences, but there should be enough attraction to tolerate physical and personal differences. That seems to be the theme of the game.
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Zoop 2016/08/09 19:14:08 No.1128667
Wait, based on those two preview pics, does that mean the MC bottoms for Krane? Assuming this is the case, and the only choice for the scene (all following comments assuming this), there goes my hopes and dreams for my favorite husbando. Talk about a bait and switch, considering the character. What a waste of invested time waiting. I'm getting the impression Bane is just throwing his fetish for bottoming at all the characters (outside of Alin), turning this into such a lopsided game. Two of these disappointments in a row for my two favorite characters, I'm pretty much out.

Of course, he is the creator, and he can do w/e he wants/feels is right with his game and characters, before anyone else points this out. Just realize he's shrinking his potential and current audience.

And it bears repeating, under the condition I am wrong about the scene, or that it is an optional path (and not the only 'adult' one), ignore my preemptive rant.

Edited at 2016/08/09 19:20:21
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Furrynomous 2016/08/09 20:09:57 No.1128690
>>1128667
>ignore my preemptive rant.

Sure.

No, but seriously, though. The only other scene with Krane is also where he bottoms. Granted, you can't access it in HIS route, but that's what makes me think that there would be at least one more scene in his main route. So, don't lose hope...?

And what did Bane say about Krane being a switch? He was going to top sooner or later.

>there goes my hopes and dreams for my favorite husbando.
>What a waste of invested time waiting.
>I'm pretty much out.

Also, you would seriously lose all interest in a character just because another character wouldn't fuck him in the specific way and time you wanted? Talk about shallow.
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Zoop 2016/08/09 20:23:09 No.1128696
>>1128690
Lo fucking L. It's a fucking video game. If there aren't enough choices in it that I find satisfying (this goes beyond this one scene), I'm not going to play it, just like any other video game. I'm not dumping a real life person, I fail to see how this can constitute me as "shallow". I'm choosing to not play a video game because the choices I can or cannot make with the fictional characters (nearly the entire premise of the game, lets not pretend this isn't at least half an interactive romance novel) are not satisfying enough to me. I would do the same thing with any other VN that didn't have enough satisfying route decisions and results. I would do the same with any RPG if I didn't like where the story was going (FFVIII, *spiolers*, when they all turn out to have amnesia and coincidentally come from the same orphanage). It's pretty fucking sensical given the genre and medium. There are plenty of other games and activities out there for me to sink my time into. You want to enjoy the game, then enjoy it.

Edited at 2016/08/09 20:31:45
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Wulfy 2016/08/09 20:31:05 No.1128697
>>1128696
The real issue is that you're claiming a bait and switch when Krane's placement as a versatile lover and not strictly a bottom was made clear.

Darkgem has two make all those scenes, so if there is another option, big deal, it's not done first. However, the shower scene with Krane has him in the submissive position, whereas this one has him topping. It's a good change of pace. Eventually, there'll probably be a second sex scene where you top Krane.

But just because the only available scene has MC bottoming doesn't make it a bait and switch, so the problem people have is that you're being an asshole when you were told upfront, Krane does both.
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Zoop 2016/08/09 20:37:55 No.1128698
>>1128697
'Bait and switch' was based on my impression (and a rather strong one at that) of the character thus far and how it relates to the upcoming content, as presented in game. I haven't read every sentence Bane has posted (though I have read quite a lot over the course of the development, and haven't happened to come across what made it 'quite clear'). It's not meant to be an objective insult toward the creator (the real complaint is how lopsided the game is becoming in that regard), but my own impression of the content. Calm your sensitive tits. Or don't, as it's really rather amusing to see you get yourself worked up over my personal impressions and disappointments. Did I call Bane an 'asshole' or anything of that nature? No I did not.

Edited at 2016/08/09 21:16:53
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Furrynomous 2016/08/10 00:57:09 No.1128877
>>1128698
>Calm your sensitive tits
Dude, you are the one flipping your shit here.

Its okay that you don't like how the scenario is going, but calm yourself.
Maybe wait for the actual update to come out before whining?
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Zoop 2016/08/10 01:44:40 No.1128894
>>1128877
Hahaha holy shit, this just gets funnier. 0 shits have I flipped. Once again, who are the people calling others 'assholes' and 'shallow'? I had insulted no one. I gave my impression of a preview and what it could possibly mean toward my interests in the game, in a level-headed manner, and without resorting to ad hominen attacks. Not my fault you have the inability to view a negative opinion/reaction without perceiving it as aggressive, whiny, or condescending. Not the one who needs to learn how digest potential criticism of a product on a non-personal level.

Also, I already have built into my initial argument that my comments are presuming certain things that may or may not be true, and are instead based on an impression. So your "Maybe wait for the actual update to come out before whining" advice has already been implemented before received.

If you would like to hear more negative opinions of the game I have though, I am perfectly ready and willing to give more. Or I could restate my initial negative reaction as many times as you like until you find it properly palatable.

Edited at 2016/08/10 01:51:17
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Furrynomous 2016/08/10 02:07:04 No.1128901
>>1128894
All I'm saying is you are the one being overly emotional right now.

I never said you insulted Bane, but you are definitely being overly dramatic.
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Zoop 2016/08/10 02:12:04 No.1128904
>>1128901
Emotional? I think you are reading extra and erroneous meaning from my comments. Keep in mind, the person who I told to "calm their sensitive tits", called me an asshole. I felt the response was appropriate advice.

Edited at 2016/08/10 02:15:17
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Furrynomous 2016/08/10 02:14:22 No.1128905
>>1128904
Whatever man.

Anyway, Blackgate

Vincent's update was pretty great.
I wonder when Logma will get content. Not that I particularly care about him yet, but I'm pretty sure hes one of the few characters with out any updates at this point.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/10 14:52:56 No.1129119
>>1128696
Alright... So, a lot of this conflict could've been easily avoided if I didn't add that last part. Sorry about that.

Yes, I do realize they are fictional fucking characters and that I expressed myself very poorly in pointing that out. The reason why I added that comment was simply because some things you said previously rubbed me in the wrong way. It's entirely my fault for viewing them in such a negative way, however.

Regardless, it was unnecessary for me to write something like that, especially since it would result in nothing but aggravation from either sides. I, again, apologize.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/08/10 20:40:48 No.1129173
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Hi there Bane here,

Everything will be okay. I said that there would be the option to top or bottom... it just takes a bit of time. I see a divide in Krane's face. By that i mean some of you like it some of you don't. I can easily explain it away as the human seeing him as less of a monster but that's kinda a cop out but also makes some narrative sense. I'm not saying that's the reason. Krane's face is just what Darkgem did. It's not final and everything can be changed... that's the whole point of developing is to listen to feedback and change things as necessary. I'm on team creepy monster faced krane that looks like a real bat but that's just me (i'm a creep). I'll put up a poll on my patreon to see if people like the creepy faced krane or the more snout and nicer faced krane to get an idea. I'm not saying it will change anything but option is there. Also, that's just a tiny itty bitty thing of the other option i was talking about.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/10 23:57:40 No.1129232
I'm kind of conflicted about Krane's new CG. The new version looks more attractive but I feel it deviates from the spritework too much and makes him look like a simpleton. Creepy monster face Krane somehow looked much more elegant and regal...

>>1129173
Be sure to include all the relevant options
-monster faced Krane
-after plastic surgery Krane
-both are fine
-I don't care about the bat
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 01:14:58 No.1129252
>>1129173

Fuuuuuck. I wasn't going to look and just let my first impression be organic during the next Krane update, but now I really want to look. I was doing such a good job resisting temptation...

>>1129232
>i don't care about the bat

how dare u
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 01:52:00 No.1129274
>>1129173
Both are fine in my opinion, but I think the new face is really cute.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 03:25:59 No.1129324
>>1124816

Who-- who is this man?

That is not my husband!!

STRANGER DANGER
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Wulfy 2016/08/11 07:53:09 No.1129460
>>1129173
HAHA, true, Bat <3

>>1129173
I think the newer face is fine, but I preferred the hyper realism. Maybe a compromise of shrinking his snout a bit in order to align it more with the sprite?

Lots of options, and I love how it's going, but I'm willing to cede opinions to the patrons, who actually can/do contribute.
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Wulfy 2016/08/11 07:57:00 No.1129466
>>1129173
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_720/images/live/p0/2f/bm/p02fbmqk.jpg

This is the PERFECT picture for how adorable vampire bats can be. (Yes, the fox bat is far more lovable, but lookit his cute, blood-licking face <3)

I think the number one complaint (calling him a donkey, too cartoonish, etc) is that Krane's face is too long (someone else pointed out the snout, I agreed).

It's just a thought that the newer "friendly" face can be akin to his sprite (though I love "creepy Krane"), but the above picture also elucidates the visible issues with the current iteration of the Krane topping sex scene.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 14:40:18 No.1129562
>>1129173
I'll vote in the poll when it comes out, but I wanted to say here that I am 100% for the original Krane look. It's off-putting at first, but the texture on his fur and his dilated eyes make him mesmerizing the more you look. That's quite symbolic of Krane's character.
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Zoop 2016/08/11 16:20:38 No.1129588
>>1129119
Everything is alright~

>>1129173
That is good to hear, sorry I had not been caught up on your recent announcements regarding the matter.

As far as his face goes, I definitely prefer the old "creepy" face. Never had any real problem with it, it is quite adorable to me.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 18:05:52 No.1129603
Is their a chance we could get number draft example that are closely resemble Krane's snout so that we can pick which one is best, since he is a vampire bat and all?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/11 21:15:46 No.1129727
>>1129173

For clarity, I don't think anyone here supporting the 'creepy' version of Krane is looking for a drastic departure from what Darkgem produced, just some minor adjustments to be more true to his sprite, and to the way Darkgem initially portrayed him.

I think what people are getting at is that this new look doesn't match his character as he's a little too handsome for all the talk around town of how much of a creeper he is. If the concerns were more of people being seduced and subsequently never heard from again, this look would fit, lol. Plus, many of us became attached to the character even if he wasn't our cup of tea at first glance...and speaking for myself, that only made me come to love him more, if that makes sense.

That said, even if I am on team "muh realism", it brings me great joy to see Krane actually look happy for once. Not to mention the overall quality and attention to detail is incredible, which I feel like nobody ever mentions because it's just what we expect from this artist.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/13 13:13:34 No.1130667
Bane, do you think it is going to be difficult for you to write Helle's sex scene (presuming you're not bi)?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/14 18:11:02 No.1131470
Anyone know if the update is coming out tomorrow?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/14 18:16:39 No.1131471
>>1131470

Bane releases 2 updates about a day apart at the end of the month.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/15 01:17:50 No.1131659
>>1130667
Some dick in vag sex really shouldn't be that hard to write. Sadly i feel like helle's route will be the last to be worked on for obvious reasons.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/15 04:19:06 No.1131715
>>1131659
We've gotten more Helle than other routes. Like Longma
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Furrynomous 2016/08/18 22:43:51 No.1134533
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Furrynomous 2016/08/19 00:49:06 No.1134561
>>1129173
I personally like the bat-like face, he looks cute.
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Ethos 2016/08/19 14:26:35 No.1134787
>>1134533

100% accurate
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Wulfy 2016/08/22 13:11:57 No.1136207
>>1134533
Replace ugly with weird looking, and you nailed it.

I love this comic. Should do more. XD
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Furrynomous 2016/08/22 19:41:17 No.1136420
I have to say I like Krane's new face more, he just looks fucking creepy in that shower scene.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/23 00:01:23 No.1136487
>>1136420
But isn't that the point of Krane's character?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/23 03:14:25 No.1136614
remember when updates used to come out every two weeks instead of two crammed in right at the end of the month?

pepperidge farm remembers.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/23 10:34:43 No.1136723
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>tfw your best shot at getting your husbando to have a sex scene is commissioning it to darkgem
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 01:33:27 No.1137053
Has the soundtrack for Andras been released?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 02:53:24 No.1137104
>>1137053
His song is the track "melody of the stars" in the game files.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 03:04:54 No.1137111
Wasn't there supposed to be an update a couple days ago, what happened to that.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 04:18:59 No.1137169
Do you think Bane self flagellates when he is late on an update?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 04:39:53 No.1137176
>>1137169

more like laughs all the way to the bank since he figured out the people funding the project don't care how late his first update of the month is or that his second update is basically a money grab
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 05:03:26 No.1137197
>>1137176

I stopped being a patron the second time he was late with an update. The first time, I wanted to opt out but I was feeling generous and thought maybe it wouldn't happen again...I was completely wrong.

It's unprofessional and especially when you're asking for money, you need and BETTER deliver...that being said, a lot of the patrons are still loyal. Guess they have a higher tolerance than me or just have money to blow like that.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 05:33:15 No.1137209
>>1137197

I agree with you though I was a little more forgiving of the late updates.

What I wasn't able to stand was the second update that he releases several days after the first update just so he can get the second payment. He can't do that and expect me to believe that the second update has "two weeks" worth of content updates. After that happened a couple times I also cancelled out.

If he's only got it in him to do one content update a month, fine whatever, do what you are able to do, but if he doesn't have the time to put out a proper second update then he shouldn't be getting money for it.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 05:40:10 No.1137213
>>1137208
Its by update, not by month, isn't it?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 05:40:20 No.1137214
>>1137209
Let's not forget that the work released in the updates is not even two weeks worth more like 2 or 3 days of work and that's with breaks. What very little can please so many furries, leaves me speechless. This is going the Amorous route and that is not a good sign.

Edited at 2016/08/24 05:41:34
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Wulfy 2016/08/24 07:11:20 No.1137229
>>1137214
I'm going to abstain from work discussion's on Blackgate because I do not know Bane's bottle neck and why delays happen.

Instead, let's talk about Amorous.

It actually went on a massive haitus, and finally charged for the first time in like
8 months over the summer (once), and it was a pretty big overhaul of the game. From a programming stand point, it looks like some serious work was put in to change how the game worked, and taht .05 (.5? It's the fifth demo) came out for patrons at that charged demo. It also will come out for public release soon, using patrons as beta testers. That public release was delayed (of course), but the fact is, Amorous (for those interested) seems to not be dead, but slow.

Unlike FLW, which could be dead? IDK, Kho's been gone a while.
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Bookwyrm 2016/08/24 07:48:34 No.1137241
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>>1137229
>I don't want to talk about Blackgate
>Blackgate thread

Just... uh... see if there's an Amorous thread and post there?
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Wulfy 2016/08/24 08:09:01 No.1137242
>>1137241
If you bothered to see what I was posting in response to, you'd realize I was refuting his note that blackgate is becoming Amorous in terms of content because Amorous just posted their update recently.

I didn't say I won't talk about Blackgate (I like it), I'm just not gonna join the speculation about Bane's schedule, etc.
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Bookwyrm 2016/08/24 09:32:04 No.1137252
>>1137242
He's just terrible with deadlines, that has been the trend for a long time.
I think at this point he should just state "two updates per month" and call it a day. Hell, if that's too much to handle (which I understand), maybe he should just promise one update per month, with some extra ones when he manages to.
Promising and not delivering IS bad pr after all.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 11:56:09 No.1137282
>>1137229
Maybe it was a bit much comparing Blackgate to the train wreck that is Amorous. My point is that this project has been losing its momentum and the rush jobs some of the updates get have very little content.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 14:05:37 No.1137309
>>1137209
I ended up limiting my donation to one update per month. That way I don't end up paying for two half updates.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 16:41:46 No.1137333
Can we take a moment to apreciate that this filthy degenerate game is based entirely on judeo-christianity?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 17:38:03 No.1137400
>>1137333
Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Krane has already brought up that MC has a "karmic burden", so it at least has some elements of eastern philosophy.

But it will be interesting to see what the Eternal ends up being... I'm not sure if it's Satan (Plox said something about the Eternal looking like "his creator") or if it's Jehovah, wanting to wipe out the non-humans.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 18:02:48 No.1137463
>>1137400

"Karmic" means essentially nothing nowadays.

I think it's clear it's Satan. The Eternal could be God, but the whole "enemy of humanity" angle and the fact that the MC is the messiah seem to suggest that it's Satan.

Furries are too christian to accept otherwise
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Bookwyrm 2016/08/24 18:51:03 No.1137536
>>1137333
Bane is from the US, which culture is of European descents, ergo mainly Christian. What's so unusual in having Judeo-Christian mythology thrown in? Besides, most of the christian references are based on the Key of Solomon and Ars Goetia, so I wouldn't say the game is entirely based on that.
Demonology is fascinating, after all.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 20:21:04 No.1137568
>>1137536

No, angelology is. Every game has cheap references to the Ars Goetia, but none (sans Bayonetta) about the lovecraftian angels and divine beings in actual religious texts.

But since Bane is a christian he would be offended by that.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 20:57:40 No.1137576
Just to be clear, every update since May's been patreon exclusive, right?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 21:14:06 No.1137578
I honestly don't care how delayed the update is...

but if the moment that MC finally gets some action with Krane (not counting the BJ because it wasn't his route) is tarnished by the usual typos, misspellings, grammatical errors or just flat out lazy writing that occurs when it's obvious Bane is rushed or distracted...I'm probably done.

If he's taking some extra time to make sure he's happy with it and that it's at least proof-read then that's just fine.
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Bookwyrm 2016/08/24 21:32:00 No.1137588
>>1137568
Where are the references to Angels? Beleth, Andras, Flauros, Leraje are all demons. One of the characters (I can't remember who) mentioned that Andras is an angelic being, but that's technically incorrect, according to the Key of Solomon and angelology. I mean, you don't see stuff like Ophanim in Blackgate. Or other freaky angels like the Living or six-winged Seraph.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/24 22:25:31 No.1137597
>>1137576
...no, every update has always been public.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/25 01:06:05 No.1137642
>>1137588

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Goetia spamming and no angelic characters/monsters.
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Wulfy 2016/08/25 05:53:13 No.1137767
>>1137588
I thought the point of including demons is that they could be living creatures of a different dimension.

The demons seem to not be necessarily the strongest, but often the most ambitious (hence so many around city hall). Hell, I believe the group (plox et al) reference Alin as "not being a problem" strictly because he's too drunk to do anything.

In my personal (limited) view, I would suppose demons are not from a judeo-christian hell, but another dimension/planet, and our (human) stories and account of terrible beings is from some long forgotten connection or fever dream in which we made them to be evil instead of simply different. (It's even possible that the Grecian satyr was just another interpretation of some of the demons, hence Plox's appearance.)

Therefore, the good that's being done isn't done by angels or God. It could simply be that the good is by those (regardless of appearance, etc) who want to better themselves and help others, even in the face of an unthinking, persistent evil.


BUUTUUTUT I just thought about the ...being thing (shard?) that refused to hurt a human. It could be that the eternal is God harming (destroying?) those it views as wrong because they are not human, which is why I doesn't attack the human (or at least, kill it), and the point of the game is that we're all the same, so is the eternal justified in its actions?


Which brings up some interesting philosophical points about God. Can God do something "wrong?" (Various answers, but by many definitions, no, he can't. If he murders and is Godly, then murder is Godly and therefore good. Other responses exist, of course, just one such example.)

That said, I didn't view the story upon any reading as particularly Christian. The inspiration from it seems to be from the mythology of western philosophy while possibly being aware of this bias (and not really trying rectify it), but this isn't necessarily bad.

While Eastern philosophegions (philosophy-religions) are often interesting, I can see how it'd be difficult for someone to draw inspiration from them. Particularly for a story. and if one does, it often ends up affecting character's actions and choices to be more eastern (as the cultural impact is more measurable and apparent than particular stories), so short answer "I get it."

But I really don't think he's aiming for a particular christian message. I think he's aiming to use available mythology and in terms of convenience (ease of use?), the west is just easier to incorporate.
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Bookwyrm 2016/08/25 08:30:52 No.1137797
>>1137642
Well, six-winged Seraph are very fascinating creatures. I mean, if they unfurl their wings while you look at them, you die. That's brutal.
Also, Ophanim are just badass. And they are HUGE. I mean' they are so big that some of the otherr angelic hosts live on them. They're like giant fiery spaceships from heaven.
And they say angels are wussies.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/25 11:51:38 No.1137821
>>1137767

Thing is, demons in game are evil. Plox is basically a sociopath, Aradina is a bitch, Decaradia is calculating and Vekk is Vekk. The only one with "good" intentions would be Andras, who seems to have some civic duty, and he is still the central antagonist.

Your point about the Eternal could have some merit (it's in the name after all), but the protagonist is hinted to be a messiah and to stand against it, not beside it.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/25 12:32:02 No.1137885
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>>1137797

Some apocrypha also describe the seraphim as dragon like.

And then there's the Chalkydri, angel dragons that live on the Sun according to 2 Enoch
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Wulfy 2016/08/26 02:59:51 No.1138087
>>1137821
Fair points. Also the general personality of successful people is to be asshats in fact but publicly appear to be working for the good of others. Anyway, just my two cents.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/26 04:00:37 No.1138133
apparently spending a day with friends causes you to miss your deadline by a week
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Furrynomous 2016/08/26 14:47:57 No.1138565
>>1138133
I would prefer he delay the update, though, if it means avoiding another infamous "injured Krane" moment...

>MC: Are you going to die?
>Krane: I don't know...
>TO BE CONTINUED!
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Furrynomous 2016/08/26 14:53:07 No.1138567
>>1138565

i know, i'm just being frustrated and venting
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Furrynomous 2016/08/26 22:39:35 No.1138718
>>1138565

LOL. I remember bitching about that so hard in the current thread at the time, and then like, a day later Bane announced a re-write of the update.

I felt a LITTLE bad about it because it was obvious he saw it, but...well, say what you will about Bane and deadlines, he does take our feedback into account.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 01:35:27 No.1138788
Ugh the dialogue in this game is so bad. WHY CAN'T I STOP PLAYING?

Krane, you are bae.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 04:13:11 No.1138875
Blackgate Build 0.48 has been posted!

CHANGE LOG
+Krane Nights 6 & 7 & 8
+New Artwork
+No Cliffhanger...

https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame/posts
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 06:33:25 No.1138896
>>1138875
>No cliffhanger
You lying fuck.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 06:45:34 No.1138902
Well, damn, the MC is totally fucked...

Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 07:30:54 No.1138908
what

i'm not crying, you're crying
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 08:16:39 No.1138916
On my end, a data seems to be corrupted. Can someone tell me what to do? Does it depend on the computer local?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 08:48:39 No.1138928
>>1138916
Try redownloading it.
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Wulfy 2016/08/27 09:53:04 No.1138971
>>1138908

....Jesus Christ I'm unhappy.
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Wulfy 2016/08/27 10:10:17 No.1138974
That face when you start doing other choices to change things, but shit doesn't get better.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 10:20:19 No.1138980
>>1138928
It helped. Thanks for the help, man.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 12:50:55 No.1139047
Krane, no. ;__;
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 15:05:15 No.1139059
Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 15:15:31 No.1139067
I guess this means my blackgate adventure has come to an end. Hopefully those of you who chose differently have better luck than I.

It's been fun. Cheers, all.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 15:48:16 No.1139075
Let me start by saying I really love Bane's work, so this is only nitpicking and overanalyzing.

I gotta agree with the others, this was still a cliffhanger. It feels even worse than a cliffhanger, since it's post climax without a true resolve. But I suppose it also depends on what the player prioritizes.

Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 16:06:06 No.1139081
>>1139067
You could just wait for the other Krane path to update.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 16:39:21 No.1139085
Unless I missed a line, we don't know that Krane is dead.
He has super regeneration powers, we know he got mauled by the creature, but we don't know that it actually killed him.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 16:51:44 No.1139088
>edgy gothic game has everyone die

You surprised why?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 17:27:48 No.1139093
>>1139085

Hate to break it to you, but we also know that he needed to consume blood to fuel his regenerative ability.

MC offered, he refused. I guess the thinking being that the wounds were so grievous, he would have had to suck MC dry to survive them.

Come join me at the 5th stage of grief, brother.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 18:23:01 No.1139114
>>1139093
Hes had blood that morning, its not like hes running dry.

I mean he could be dead, but its not super conclusive yet. I dunno why you guys are acting like its a sure thing.

Besides, who else is gonna save you from that monster bearing down on you?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 18:37:32 No.1139125
>>1139059
Too many bad ends. Game would be bad without possible good endings and or solutions.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 18:49:19 No.1139162
Wont lie, I still don't even know the plot for blackgate. Seemed so messy and shrouded I lost interest a long time ago and just stayed for the characters.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/08/27 19:54:14 No.1139184
Hi there Bane here,

I warned you. Sure there are going to be bad endings but this wasn't an ending. No character is safe but that doesn't mean they have to die. A lot of your theories are fun to read but only one thing was right, that I'm unpredictable. Rather it's that you're not predicting correctly. Things aren't red, blue, green. There's a plan and a story and it's still chugging along. Don't get discouraged so easily; Alin is next. Or do get discouraged... I'm awful anyways.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 20:05:32 No.1139186
>>1139184
NO! Not my husbean

pls D:
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 20:20:33 No.1139188
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>>1139184
>Puppy-Husbando is next

Edited at 2016/08/27 20:21:45
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 20:38:57 No.1139189
>>1139184
Theorist here, glad to hear my theories were incorrect. I'm emotionally invested in the story and the plot, so I was actually stressing out before hearing that... probably not mentally healthy, but I can't help it!

It must be fun to stir the pot with each update and watch us go crazy... Is it a strange and rewarding feeling to know that your characters effectively exist in other people's minds too?
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Blackgate Bane 2016/08/27 21:09:49 No.1139198
Hi there Bane here,

>>1139189
I won't lie, it's a lot of fun to see the reactions, positive and negative. To get a rise out of everyone is validating but that just means I have to be careful to not go overboard with the same thing. That's why some characters are destined to have more bad ends than others. However, just because a character dies does not mean it's the end of the story. The story only ends when the human dies. It's hard for me to accurately predict how each character, mystery, plot point, story will be received. I have a good idea but I've noticed that a lot of the smaller details get missed which I like. That's where the rule clues are. Point in case there's a massive spoiler in this past update that has been echoed in other routes but no one's put the pieces together yet which is always fun to see. I really shouldn't be saying anything since some enjoy the mystery more than the characters and some enjoy the characters more than the mystery. To each their own and that's part of the point. Alin's update will solidify this motif so I hope you stay tuned to the next update which will be coming soon since I'm awful at time management. I will get better, maybe, hopefully. I'm the worst.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 21:33:08 No.1139199
>>1139198

Is the hyena bf in the "most likely" category?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 21:36:27 No.1139201
>>1139198
Hey Bane,

I want to say that I really like Blackgate - the plot, the art, Blackgate in general. I really appreciate that you hear us out what ideas, suggestions or opinions we might have.

I will try to become a Patron to support your project before this is finished but unfortunately, I am very short on money at the moment. To be very honest, I can't really promise I will but I still want you to know that I'll try to do it when things get better (I hope I didn't disappoint you by that...)

I'm very excited to play the finished version of Blackgate. Even if you miss the schedule, it happens, so don't pressure yourself too much.
You're doing an awesome work (many kudos to the others that are working on it also!) and I think I can say that for many people.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 22:12:36 No.1139210
>>1139198

Please, please, PLEASE, next time you decide to off your partner don't end the scene abruptly in the middle of the action. Either a.) end it right as your partner gets hit (hard cliffhanger) or b.) keep going until there's emotional resolution by the MC.

Killing off a romantic interest needs to be impactful or else you risk alienating your audience. As it is, the MC doesn't react to his death at all and the death itself is mentioned as if it was an aside. This is poor writing because it doesn't respect the emotional attachment of the reader. Come on, man, this is writing 101 stuff.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 22:21:48 No.1139215
>>1139198
>massive spoiler in this past update that has been echoed in other routes

I've re-read every new line in the update at least three or four times now.

It's something to do with the red marker isn't it? Tell me it's the red marker.

EDIT: WAIT, SHIT. IS IT THE FIRE POKER?

Edited at 2016/08/27 22:26:22
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 22:27:05 No.1139216
Sigh now I can only hope that Rotis gets a good ending and I can travel the Galaxy with my husbando
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Furrynomous 2016/08/27 22:27:10 No.1139217
>>1139210
I really hate it that Krane dies. He and Vincent are my favourites. But I can't complain how he died. I mean he shoved the MC away and took the hit, then saved the MC again by killing the monster. Then he refused the blood offered by the MC. Also, in Kranes route it is mentioned quite often that death can come pretty quick and plain; no drama.

So just because YOU don't like how it is handled by Bane doesn't mean it is bad writing.

Also:
> it doesn't respect the emotional attachment of the reader
makes you sound like a feminist
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 00:15:11 No.1139233
>>1139217
Believe it or not, there are rules to good writing. Bane can write however he wants but that doesn't mean it's necessarily good. Respecting the reader's time is important and, in a romance-focused story, that means respecting the reader's emotional attachment to the story and characters as well. Killing and changing characters abruptly and willy-nilly tends to make people care less, because what's the point?

And implying that saying one should respect the reader (especially for a furry-pandering, crowd-funded project like this) makes you a feminist makes you sound like one of those mindless anti-SJW drones.

Edited at 2016/08/28 00:16:33
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 00:42:24 No.1139237
You guys know theres still Fangless Krane.
He could still survive this.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/08/28 00:45:53 No.1139240
Hi there Bane here,

>>1139233
Yes my writing is terrible.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 01:08:15 No.1139242
>>1139240
Don't take his opinion too close to heart, your writing is good. I can see where they're coming from (in traditional storytelling, Krane would have lived until the final boss instead of getting killed to a random enemy), but I think that fits the theme of Blackgate being an unpredictable, violent place.

Still, what upsets me the most is that Krane didn't understand that MC loved him, and that Krane mattered. Krane was still self-critical at his death, which suggests that his demons (guilt, shame) still haunted him, and his death was not peaceful. If he realized that he was not a monster, that the other citizens were the real monsters, and felt validated by MC, it would have at least been a peaceful death, which is far easier to handle emotionally. As it's handled here, it's pretty emotionally rough (like ripping a bandaid off a scab).
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 01:09:40 No.1139243
>>1139217

You do realise that this is storytelling and a wishful fullfillment game, right?

Being an anti-feminist is pathetic enough, but going the extra mile and accusing something that is actually required in this context...
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 01:28:19 No.1139245
>>1139217
Just realized that there was another route. As much as I don't want Krane to die, the full scene is much better. Disregard my complaints, I'm a huge faggot.

>makes you sound like a feminist
Bruh, the mark of good writing is making the reader emotionally invested and respecting that investment. That's not some "manspreading is rape", "disagreement is harassment," "muh safe-space" SJW bullshit, that's just good writing.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 02:39:21 No.1139255
Hope alin's upcoming update is happier than the krane update ;_;
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 04:52:42 No.1139358
>>1139242
But that's why storytelling has such a timeless structure. Making something anticlimactic and suddenly the story falls flat. The complaint has more to do with unexplainable character decisions and pointless deaths. It's more annoying than anything. Krane is an important character, therefore his death should have been pulled off with more meaning and reason. Here it felt forced, trying to draw feels for something that didn't feel deserved. Of course, the story isn't done yet, so it's yet to be seen...
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 13:48:28 No.1140095
>>1139198
I think I just realized what the spoiler is... When a Vekk appears suddenly, Krane says "nice parlor trick." When MC calls Leraje a shapeshifter, Leraje says that shapeshifters are parlor tricksters. In Kody's route, the Chosen is described as a shapeshifter. Therefore, is Vekk the Chosen? Or at least a shapeshifter? Maybe he absorbs dead monsters' souls like Shang Tsung, and then can shift into outsiders to test MC.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 14:11:31 No.1140098
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 14:12:07 No.1140099
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 14:56:09 No.1140102
>>1140098
Alin is love~~ <3
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Galileo Amador 2016/08/28 17:06:24 No.1140140
I swear, if something happens to Alin i'm going to just cry buckets of tears.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 17:42:59 No.1140155
>i might have missed out so much detail here...

soo who's that guy helle killed?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 18:07:00 No.1140183
>>1140155

Maybe Crome?
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 19:19:11 No.1140222
>>1140155
The guy was her downstairs neighbor, who was a member of the Insightful and a construction crewman. He's the one that approaches you in the Library route, requesting his neighbor be subpoenaed for his leaking roof on night 5.

I guess if you don't take the library route, Vincent ignores his request, and he goes crazy. Or if you don't authorize the subpoena, the same thing happens. It will be interesting to see Helle in court.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 22:38:13 No.1140306
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 22:41:51 No.1140314
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 22:41:52 No.1140315
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>>1140314
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 22:41:54 No.1140316
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>>1140314
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Furrynomous 2016/08/28 23:40:46 No.1140334
>>1140140
>>1140102
Im still not sold on Alin yet. He was the first route I did, but in the end I feel so far hes just been waaaay too pathetic.
Im hoping he redeems himself later in his route, but his alcoholism and self pity is starting to grate on me pretty hard.


I was also surprised how much Im loving Vincent's path. Having him have a genuinely nice side is great, I hope we get to see it more as the route goes on.

I was also surprised how much I love Rotis's route. Especially since hes such a dick on other routes, having him be cool in his own is great. He and vincent are easily my top 2 right now.

I do wonder how high the body count will be in each route. I everyone can die in routes that aren't theirs (and apparently routes that ARE theirs, though Krane's isn't over yet, so maybe something magical revives him)
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 00:34:15 No.1140359
>>1140334
I think it's ridiculous that Alin was drinking while riding MC. That seems very disrespectful, I know that he fucks casually but that is on another level.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 00:45:12 No.1140360
I hope that Rotis doesn't end up having one of the darker paths. He already gets slapped around (see: impaled) and hated in the other paths. I'd hate to see him also get offed in his own route. That, and he is my true bae. Realistically though, some bad shit is probably going to happen to him going by the song "Rotis' Pain" in the files. Unless it already was used someplace and I'm just missing something.

>>1140359
To be fair, he was going through severe mood whiplash. I mean, just when things start to look like they might get better for him, you die. Plus, he was already drunk IIRC when you came back to life.

Edited at 2016/08/29 00:46:21
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 01:04:24 No.1140366
bane you ruined my weekend, you asshole

even while hanging out with friends and family i kept thinking about it

fuck
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 01:43:55 No.1140371
>>1140366
I know that feel, I was torn up about it yesterday too. Funny how entertainment can affect our realities.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 05:11:07 No.1140407
>>1140360
I dunno, just because he died in other paths doesn't necessarily mean he dies in his own.

I think its gonna be the kind of thing where nobody is safe outside their own routes.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 06:32:12 No.1140414
Out of contex, but how come there's no thread for Aego?

Edited at 2016/08/29 06:32:40
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 13:01:18 No.1140463
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 13:01:58 No.1140464
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 13:06:03 No.1140466
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Wulfy 2016/08/29 15:45:09 No.1140517
>>1139242
Actually, the guy is kind of straight up wrong. Martin has made a career out of countering tropes of the fantasy Genre and killing off people I love.

More importantly, Krane being killed off can be an important story telling element. For one thing, the MC died and then came back through some sort of black void...tearing through into light before waking up with Vekk.

In stands to reason that EITHER the MC is awakened to do something in particular in response to losing Krane OR that we'll learn more about that blackness and MC will bring Krane back OR something. The point is, Krane's death is only bad if it doesn't go somewhere. But since we don't know what happens (he lied, it's a cliff hanger), we just have to wait and see.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 20:50:58 No.1140565
>>1140466
Wow, this is great. And I can't believe a project like this is getting art like this.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/29 22:01:20 No.1140596
And this is why I dislike these types of release schedules. With games being released in increments, or episodes if you prefer, we are left with many unanswered questions until the next episode is released as opposed to a typical release of the finished product all at once.

It leaves me feeling like a crack addict waiting for his next fix as continually watch the days roll by hoping for the next release to get to me sooner. Guess it shows how invested a person can be, or addicted, with even just a tidbit rather than a full meal.
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Wrath 2016/08/30 01:34:33 No.1140693
maybe the mc will use the outsider's blood to save him
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Furrynomous 2016/08/30 13:16:39 No.1140969
In the last update, it's revealed that it's illegal to manipulate others. This is problematic for MC if he forces Gryz to tell Gruff's allergy. I can't imagine Gruff would be happy to hear what MC did either, nor to hear about MC killing Gaile. That should be an interesting path...
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Furrynomous 2016/08/30 16:04:16 No.1140991
>>1140969
Not sure, gryz hates gruff and the reason why is kinda petty. Understandable but very petty. But i do think gruff wouldn't be so happy about hearing MC using his dead mom and brother into getting gryz to spill the beans about the family allergy.
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Xylex Doomdale 2016/08/30 17:43:31 No.1141020
I legit cried from this update.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/30 19:40:31 No.1141040
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Why is there a Satan?
Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/08/31 00:26:30 No.1141180
>>1140969
Presumably being a Librarian gives you more authority than average citizens.
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Furrynomous 2016/08/31 09:49:32 No.1141430
Damn the feels in this last update. Before now I had never played through Krane's route. Usually I tend to just stick with Alin, Rotis, or Malo. But I got curious and gave the gentlman Bat a whirl. And boy does he have a way of endearing himself to you. So I really find myself hoping that he's not truly dead. That perhaps its just a temporary thing or there is a way to save him. I mean i only just got to know him and now I have lost him. Please say it isn't so.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 02:03:07 No.1141741
>Rotis is next update
My body is so ready
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 02:34:04 No.1141766
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Soon
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 03:18:21 No.1141785
So Flauros IS a he?
It seemed like they were keeping his gender ambiguous, I think this is the first time its been explicitly said.

I mean I assumed it was a he, being how just about everyone in the story is gay, but I thought maybe it might have been a she
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 03:28:54 No.1141791
>>1141766
Did Bane say something about Jack?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 03:45:43 No.1141792
>>1141785
No, not everyone is gay in Blackgate. Most are just bisexual. I think the only gay ones are alin and krane. Yes Flauros was male, I remember Helle's story about the whole librarian incident she did call flauros a HE.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 11:22:12 No.1141926
New update

Change Log
+Alin Night 5 & 6 & part of 7
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 11:44:10 No.1141928
I think I just found out how Vincent sounds like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Sv-4Zaepc
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 12:45:08 No.1141938
>>1141928
lol, this made my day.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 15:28:11 No.1141963
>>1141928
That's... pretty close to what I had in mind, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEhPYaM-RoU
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 16:28:15 No.1141970
>>1141928
Not quite bitchy enough but otherwise perfect
>>1141963
Dunno, thats more blatantly agressive than I see Vincent. Hes bitchy, but not gonna make such angry threats. At least not that we've seen yet.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 21:10:13 No.1142081
Am I the only one who catches that Vekk is basically the main villain? While you were dead, he took your phone and your fire-poker. the flesh on the last one was from a random (yet one of the disappeared) monster killed by Vekk taking your shape.
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God and Jesus Furrynomous 2016/09/01 21:18:53 No.1142088
>>1142081

I figured as much, but is he established to be a shapeshifter?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/01 22:28:14 No.1142121
>>1142088

Not in a full statement, indeed, but it's quite the only suspicious character (aside of the watchers and the unappeared members).
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Furrynomous 2016/09/02 03:05:48 No.1142195
Is it just me or was Alin's transition from drink-the-feels-away to serious-mode-now less emotionally impactful than it should have been? :<
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God and Jesus Furrynomous 2016/09/02 03:17:27 No.1142210
>>1142195

Depends. He basicallyy admits resentment and anger at the old man, much like Vincent, yet cannot help but grieve and love him much.

Prior to this, his mourning seems rather sudden
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Furrynomous 2016/09/02 11:17:06 No.1142482
>>1142210
I thought he was affected by yet another death in Blackgate, rather than mourning for Sooth himself

I see why it felt that way now
The graveyard scene was mostly dialogue and didn't have any descriptions during the discussion.
Coupled with the static sprites and me being half awake, I couldn't really tell their tone and how they were acting (cept for Vincent though, that sarcastic arsebutt)

Edited at 2016/09/02 11:19:24
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Furrynomous 2016/09/02 13:56:17 No.1142499
Alin being my favorite path up to this point, I'd say I enjoyed the recent update quite a bit. I don't know if others would disagree but Alin and MC seem to be becoming fairly intimate, in some weird way I almost preferred the spooning in this addition than the sex scenes with Alin in the previous ones. I think if any character deserved a 'and they lived happily ever after' storyline with MC it would be Alin.
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Garg 2016/09/02 17:13:21 No.1142766
I have been fkin struggling to get 3 out of 3 kills on the training thing AND I CANT FOR THE LIFE OF ME GET THEM. If anyone can help a brother with his OCD please do.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/02 18:11:49 No.1142933
>>1142766
Deal with it, you cannot get 3/3 on first try.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/02 19:47:53 No.1143140
>>1142766
Only if you train with Krane.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 05:18:03 No.1143350
How do I download the latest update? Keep saying it's not there? Do I have to become a backer?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 06:29:08 No.1143372
>>1143350
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gd7skuncl5j8b5c/Blackgate-0.49-win.zip
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 20:47:37 No.1143809
>>1143350
The newest update is in the update post at the bottom. Dunno why he stopped updating the thing at the top of the page.

But yeah, just go to the patreon updates and the links will be there. If the first one doesn't work, the second one should.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/04 01:53:59 No.1143926
Wait, is the Amelia that Vincent apparently loved Amelia Earhart? Since the fugitive route says that she ended up in Blackgate.

If so, I guess time is wonky in Blackgate for you to arrive only years after Amelia Earhart.

Unless its a different Amelia.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/04 01:55:01 No.1143928
>>1143926
Guess I should have just read a little longer, its definitely the same Amelia
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Furrynomous 2016/09/04 01:57:13 No.1143929
>>1143926
>>1143928
Well shit, now I just feel worse for Vincent.

I can't wait for more of his route. But oh well, I'm excited for Rotis's update too
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/04 02:42:36 No.1143954
>>1143928
>>1143929

As if the tsundere cat wasn't a bitch it is also a desperate cishet scum.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/04 06:57:29 No.1144030
>>1143954
I can't tell if you are just shitposting right now or not.


I do hope we see more of Vincent turning back to how he used to be on his route. Nicer and not bitchy.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/04 22:46:36 No.1144232
>>1143372
>>1143809
Thank you very much
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Furrynomous 2016/09/05 14:05:09 No.1144392
>>1142088
Leraje refers to shapeshifters as "Parlor tricksters," and when Vekk appears suddenly on night 7 of Krane's route, Krane says "nice parlor trick." Plox also theorizes that Plox is an e-shard, which would explain how he could assume shapes.

My own theory now is that Vekk is perhaps like Agent Smith. Perhaps he is indirectly trying to get MC to hate the residents of Blackgate, so when it's time for MC to make a choice, he chooses to destroy the town (thus freeing the Eternal) instead of saving the town and destroying the eternal (what Andras is trying to indirectly steer you towards.)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/05 20:09:35 No.1144493
I wonder, does Krane die in all the other routes on Night 7? Since he's not involved with the Insightful, he would probably be the only one at the police station, and therefore would be the one sent to deal with the outsider. Maybe he would be less distracted without having to protect MC, and could kill the outsider, but it seemed like the outsider was especially strong.

Here are some other "defaults" that happen on other routes:

-Helle kills her neighbor on night 6
-Kody poisons/kills Gruff on night 6
-The Insightful begins its attack on night 7

Is there anything else that happens on every other route?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/05 21:24:39 No.1144517
>>1144493
I am not sure if Helle kills her neighbour in all routes. In the library route said neighbour comes to you in the library to ask for a hearing. I guess you can find a solution without him dying. But we'll have to wait and see.

Also if you're playing Kodi's route, you can choose someone who will be tested if he's the shapeshifter. It could still lead to Gruff being poisoned, but it could also lead to a completely other event.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/05 23:07:32 No.1144626
>>1144493
Gruff is confirmed dead on other routes?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/05 23:30:19 No.1144634
>>1144626
Well, I don't think he has been confirmed dead. But it would be the natural conclusion, since Kody only tells you since he trusts only you, and Gryz only tells you if you threaten to kill him. Maybe they could find the cure in time but without MC I would doubt it.

Although Kody's test is a witch trial. If the victim survives, he was the Chosen, but if he doesn't, he was a regular person. Pretty sloppy way to determine who the Chosen one is.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/06 04:43:47 No.1144787
Good news, now you can fuck Alin IRL

https://twitter.com/jl_wol
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Midojin 2016/09/07 22:06:33 No.1146028
I made a QuizUp page for Blackgate :3

If you are interested to try it go here:
http://quizup.com/topics/_9c2c6b23-2b41-4120-b711-fadfb0ba6820
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 00:38:21 No.1146090
>>1144787
I'm so deeply confused by this.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 01:35:28 No.1146114
>>1146028
>requires an account
No thanks.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 22:13:33 No.1146661
Hi there Bane here,

I was contacted before the suit was made and asked if it was okay for it to be made. I thought it was a great idea and said absolutely. I love the suit and it's amazing. If anyone wants to make fan art or a suit of any of the characters I'm all for it. I want to see an Andras suit cause that'd be awesome.
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Bookwyrm 2016/09/08 22:22:57 No.1146663
>>1146661
Party pooper here. Feathers must be a bitch to reproduce in a suit. Not to mention the wings. A plush-textured andras with tiny wings would look... less than impressive, I'm afraid. One might pull off a decent Krane or Vincent, I suppose. Eterni too, but since he's not a char of your design I guess he does not count.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/08 22:31:02 No.1146665
>>1146663

Yes, almost everything uses actual feathers instead of artificial ones. Maybe if you have access to chickens and dye.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 22:33:56 No.1146667
>>1146663

Ahem

https://twitter.com/shy_matsi/status/749688453273677824
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 08:32:28 No.1146905
Currently, Kody is conspicuous bad impression.
He is being sought?
However, I want to that the sexual ...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 15:16:33 No.1147031
>>1142081
I don't think Vekk did the murders, I think MC subconsciously did it. One piece of evidence I saw in Alin's update is "my right forearm is still sore for some reason." This would imply MC was pummeling whatever monsters he ended up killing.

>>1146905
I don't understand what you are saying... are you saying that Kody is suspicious, but you still hope MC can bone him? I wonder if Kody's off-limits because of his human penpal.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 15:48:14 No.1147034
>>1147031
How could MC have done it though?
He was with his respective husbandos pretty much the whole time after he woke up in the police station.
Unless he somehow snuck out during his sleeping times. But I think that's unlikely given that Jack was awake (iirc, but I may be wrong) during that time, on his route.
And Alin was being MC's blanket again, after sexytimes~, on the same night.
That's off the top of my head though, so take it with a grain of salt?

Edited at 2016/09/09 15:49:11
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 15:55:49 No.1147035
>>1147034
Probably somehow happened after you get stabbed.

I mean you clearly don't remembering it happening, so it presumably happened during a period you weren't conscious of.

Which most likely is when you got stabbed.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 15:57:21 No.1147036
>>1147034
>>1147035
Very likely since I believe in Vincent's route, he says something like "There were 1 1/2 deaths the night you got stabbed"

So presumably whoever the poker killed was the other dead guy.
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Bookwyrm 2016/09/09 16:03:10 No.1147040
>>1147035
But how would the puny human overpower one of Blackgate's residents? Is that a +5 monstrous humanoid bane fire pokerr? Even scared, monsters would fight back and easily rip in half/blast him into oblivion.

Edited at 2016/09/09 16:03:50
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 16:05:51 No.1147042
>>1147035
But weren't the police already there when MC retreated to his room?
What a mystery @_@

>>1147036
One and a half deaths
I should not have laughed at that D:

>>1147040
Perhaps MC's passive, "Induce Fear on Blackgate Residents" affected said monster?
EDIT: Nvm, maybe the poker is magic
Andras commented on it too, but idk if we should take that literally

Edited at 2016/09/09 16:08:24
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Wulfy 2016/09/09 16:42:36 No.1147060
>>1147042
More likely: Something was disguised as the human, and Andras is unaware of the disguise.

Owl-man mentions that he doesn't know why you don't "remember the chairs." You have blood and murder with things appearing "back" in your bag, but now it's been used. So, someone has access to your personal effects.

I smell a rat.

Vekk is probably more important (and antagonistic) than he seems. He knows your condition isn't that serious. Adriana (demon woman) seems legitimately concerned that she "screwed up" but claims to be framed.

Also note, this bad even happens on every route regardless of your partner, except for Andras, who likely wanted you to be entirely shielded in the underground chamber. We are forced (due to lack of information) to exclude the Vekk route from consideration. So, we're left with this:

N4, events always leave you to be vulnerable and "die." Some people have more or less an idea that this will happen (Plox route), but it doesn't seemed tied to an agency (Police, library, etc.) other than possibly the Town Hall. However, Andras' desire to keep you privileged but safe is resulting in the interesting scenario where he is actually denying himself information (less so on the gang of 4 routes).

Note:
Andras clearly thinks that you have some sort of active work with him and are aware of something important or perhaps are privy to the eternal or something. However, he MUST think you did something bad which he is covering up AND that you know something about some "chairs." In most routes (not gang of 4), he doesn't know you're unaware of this. This means that someone is masquerading as you (whether morphing or mind control) in order to trick Andras, and the fact that he won't bring out the violent actions to the town's attention (that "you" killed someone) nor can he afford to talk to you other than by yourself about the chairs (and seemed to not trust talking in his office, and otherwise, you were with gruff or vincent at the time, etc) or any other secret information he thinks your privy to.

In short, Andras is the only one who COULD have enough information to figure out everything, but his actions are actually denying not just the town but HIMSELF information.

I have no idea if this is correct, but it seems to point at the above.

Which, by the way, support Kody's theory; there is a shapeshifter. Of course, given that mind control is banned, it could be that as well. And Vekk is the most likely culprit in my opinion.

So about those route things:

Gang of 4 routes are probably best for the town. The particular route likely doesn't amtter much, but may determine who leads once you leave.

The Plox group routes are probably pretty bad and result in the most casualties. It's hard to say if there a good ending in here, but there might be. It's also possible these routes might end up with you in blackgate permanently, but with varying degrees of freedom based on your action. Plox might make you a fuck toy, and while it's hot in the abstract, living in a permanent hell and used as nothing but a cumrag has got to suck.

The Andras routes: No idea. Probably a mixed bag.

The Husbando endings: PROBABLY MOSTLY BAD FOR THE TOWN.
Just calling it here. I don't think Krane's route could reasonably end up good in any case at the moment. I believe bad things will come from it.

As a note: I am sure there are a handful of good endings sprinkled in, but I'm more looking for bad ends and the fact that despite what the monsters of Blackgate thing, the human is powerless.

"Things working out in your favor" isn't a real power. It's honestly writer convenience.

Anyway, just scattered thoughts for now. Later when I'm less lazy.
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Bookwyrm 2016/09/09 16:56:22 No.1147064
>>1147060
Your reasoning is sound. The only one who explivitly has access to your stuff is Vekk, that leaves him as the main suspect.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 18:51:48 No.1147097
>>1147060
I imagine both factions will probably have good and bad effects.

I do hope you can get good ends with your husbandos.
Would be a shame if you or they gotta die in every route, or you end up separated.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/09 22:02:24 No.1147165
>>1147097

The Insightful are basically trumptards lead by a rapist and the government is the stereotypical fascist one.

The only "good" faction is the Library, and they are basically totalitarian fascists who can get away with murder easily
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Furrynomous 2016/09/10 00:23:24 No.1147192
>>1147165
You summed up both factions quite nicely.

>>1147097
I do believe casualties will happen on all routes weather it's yours, the person you're trying to woo or other characters in blackgate. But i do believe the insightful(Plox/Laraje, Rotis, Longma) and the retinue(Vincent,Gruff,Alin,) routes will lead to the most casualties. In vincent's night 5 he didn't hesitate to off rotis right then and there. I do believe the main casualties between those routes would consits of Rotis, Gruff, Vincent, Longma, Kitako, Andras, and Helle(?)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/10 10:32:14 No.1147291
>>1147165
>and the government is the stereotypical fascist one
wtf I love the Insightful now!!!
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/10 13:08:23 No.1147335
>>1147291

To be fair we don't actually see the government do any truly shady shit, but no one likes Andras so...
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Bookwyrm 2016/09/10 14:56:18 No.1147349
>>1147335
I believe they don't like him because it's easy to blame shady stuff to the creepy, machine-like speaking owl-man with the FTL-slashing sword. I mean, sure, it might be reassuring know he's on your side, but since apparently he never leaves the town hall, he's bound to look mysterious and villainous to everyone.
Doesn't help the fact that he's the "No free will" kind of guy.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/10 21:12:23 No.1147524
>>1147349
I think there must be something else, because Decarabia has been there since forever and apparently she hates his guts. Even Vincent dislikes Andras, and they're on the same side. The only person who seems to tolerate Andras is Gruff, although he seems more like a servant or duty-bound than anything else.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/11 09:47:12 No.1147774
>>1147165
You sound very triggered my friend, are you sure you should be on the internet?
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/11 13:19:40 No.1147799
>>1147774

Yet you're triggered by seeing the word "trumptard". I know conservatives are pathetic projectors, but even then this is sad.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/12 00:52:22 No.1148099
>>1147774
>>1147799

Yeahh guys... lets not do this here.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/12 19:11:45 No.1148527
Bane, your team says you are trying to get back on a bi-weekly release schedule. Do you think Rotis' update will come out this week? I need my fix...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/15 22:12:17 No.1149936
Oh huh.

I was looking at the patreon page, and I saw that Rotis and Plox had different sprites originally.

Huh, I kinda like them, they are more unsettling than the current sprites.


Though the current ones do look higher quality.

I still kinda miss old Vekk. Just seemed fittingly off. But I guess the new one fits in with the rest of the sprites better.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/16 07:56:33 No.1150233
>>1149936
You can also look at the game assets after you download the game. I do this sometimes when I'm not on Windows.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 03:40:58 No.1150580
Bane, any update on the merchandise you guys are planning on releasing next month?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 03:22:49 No.1150986
Did Bane ever say what the finished product will be like? Will it be converted to another engine (like Unity)? Is he planning on having alternate sprites for every character like Gruff has?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 03:54:17 No.1151018
>>1150986
Have there ever been any visual novels in Unity? Honestly ren'py is a decent VN engine.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 07:25:32 No.1151095
>>1151018
Creating a VN in Unity is the same as creating a modern browser in assembly. Pointless.
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Grawl 2016/09/18 13:57:50 No.1151141
>>1151095

Can't really agree with you there. Renpy has a really basic set of things it can do. If you want to create a VN that is different from others by adding complicated programming, I'd go with Unity. Let's say that if I want to see a heart coming out with small particles effect when you select a good choice (which would be a bad game design in my opinion), add 3D elements or walk around a town to see that the game have more than just male characters everywhere, you'll never be able to do it in Renpy (maybe you could, but it would be a lot more difficult using that engine). Everything depends on what you want in your VN. If it's a normal, simple VN, Renpy is definitely the way to go as of now though.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 16:08:11 No.1151167
>>1151018
Yes, there is one that is in development.
https://www.patreon.com/PaintedBees

There's only a basic trial demo of it out, but so far, it looks incredible. The environment is interactive and fluid. That's the reason I asked if Blackgate will have a similar setup... that would make it easily the best furry visual novel. I understand not using it during development, since that would be more time consuming to program, but as a finished product, there's no better setup.
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Anon98127 2016/09/18 19:14:31 No.1151232
>>1151167

I see something about a demo on there but i cant see one to download, do i have to support to actually get a demo?

*edit*
nvm, i posted on their page asking about a demo and they deleted the comment. Lost interest.

Edited at 2016/09/19 01:57:06
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 03:00:11 No.1151401
>>1151232
Hmmm, that's too bad that they won't at least release the earliest demo for download... at any rate, it shouldn't be too difficult to imagine what it looks like, since their promotional images are indicative of what the game looks like. You can interact with the objects in the background, and the character sprites move around the room, talk, etc. It looks very fluid, I hope the final version of Blackgate looks that good (and with their budget, I see no reason why it shouldn't).
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Anon98127 2016/09/19 04:05:50 No.1151420
>>1151401

Yup tried asking again and message was deleted...dont like the way they handle stuff so i hope they fail. Its a shit way to treat potential backers.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 04:33:30 No.1151424
Hory shet Darkgem's renderings are so godly that it's scary...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 15:22:29 No.1151527
Well, next version is delayed a day or two...

Edited at 2016/09/19 15:24:51
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Crazy 2016/09/20 05:09:06 No.1151806
>>1151420

If what they have posted is right, they don't currently have a demo available, and it's even posted in their description. "Presently, we are working to produce a demo for our first project titled ABRAXAS.". It's kinda like standing in a isle of candy and asking where to find the candy bars :P
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Anon98127 2016/09/20 10:38:41 No.1151931
>>1151806

Ummm nooo its not as the description goes on to say:
We've budgeted for six months of full-time production out of our own pocket; starting February and ending in the first week August. By the end of this six month stint, we'll have created a functional and fully polished demo chapter that will be free to play!

pretty sure we are way past the first week of August... So it was a valid question to ask.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/21 23:50:15 No.1152432
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>>1151018

See No Evil was made in Unity. I'd link to it, but the website where you get it is down for some reason.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/22 22:45:41 No.1152884
Hmm, I have been looking into the meaning of the Tarot cards found on the library route, here is my interpretation:

1. The tower- this represents the city hall, and the battle Leraje will wage against Andras.

2. Ten of Swords- I'm not sure about this. Considering it was underneath the Tower card, this could represent Andras' defeat and execution, or it could represent MC's death and resurrection.

3. The knight of wands- this represents MC and his energy/drive/courage. It explains why people ask MC what he is working towards on other routes, since his power is in his intuition and creativity.

4. The Fool (reversed)- There is something interesting regarding the Fool card:

>When the first card in a spread is the reversed Fool, then the querant must be warned against embarking on a journey that is unwise or unhealthy for them. They really need to give much thought to what they are about to do or may have already started doing.

This reminds me of Plox's route, given how many people ask MC if he's really sure of what he's getting into.

5. The King of Swords- I think this represents Andras, and the knowledge he can give MC.

6. Justice- This perhaps represents the ending MC will face, depending on his choices throughout the game. I guess we will have to wait to see what they turn out being.

7. The Devil (reversed)- I think this represents the Eternal, who is not the evil that people think it is, but instead empowers MC and makes him the most powerful figure in Blackgate.

Those are just my thoughts, does anybody who knows more about Tarot have any input about my analysis?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 02:37:18 No.1152966
>>1152884
Aren't readings dependent on the question asked though?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 02:44:36 No.1152968
>>1152884
I feel like the cards were grouped for some reason though
I posted my analysis somewhere above xD
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 21:25:47 No.1153215
Version 0.50 is out

https://www.patreon.com/posts/blackgate-links-6155414

Another update and another step closer to getting to the end of the road. This one may not seem as revolutionary as an update but I had to rewrite a lot of stuff surrounding Rotis. There were things that were missing and things that I messed up. I felt as though the character progression for Rotis wasn't going the way I wanted. Rotis has historically been the most difficult for me to write (sometimes it is Plox) so I tend to scrap content. This update doesn't encompass a whole number of nights but I do have most of night 7 and 8 done for Rotis. It's just getting there correctly and that's the content I keep scrapping. Speed and pacing of information regarding backstory is always fun.

Change log
+Rotis Night 5&6
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 22:34:13 No.1153282
>>1153215
Well, it seems as though the most important revelation in this update is that the letters MC keeps getting are from the Chosen. It is also revealed that the Chosen is a group of people. If that's true, it seems that the MC is not simply a replacement that Andras picked, but rather was chosen by the Chosen. I suppose that means Plox/Leraje won't harm MC regardless of which route you choose, since the Chosen would instruct him to keep MC safe.

Here are all the red letters in the game:

Night 1, red letter in fridge:
>Welcome

Bartender Night 2, when Sooth hands you one with the key:
>'Beware those with eyes. You're being hunted.'
>On the back of the note card is a symbol. The writing below it says, 'This is their flag. If it is claimed, you are in the wrong place.'

Police Routes, night 2, when Vekk hands you your money and the note:
>'This is enough for food and drinks. There is a bar where I will be at eating'

Night 6 Helle/Alin/Vincent, red note in Sooth's funeral book. I won't bother pasting all of that.

Night 6 with Jack, it is revealed that the document regarding the reaper's capture was modified with the red ink.

Night 7 with Krane, a red marker rolls off (presumably his) desk

Well, I suppose this confirms that Sooth was a member of the Chosen. His murder must have been committed by an enemy of the Chosen. In Eterni's route, he theorizes that the Watchers are the ones who collect ambrosia/edgeless stones, and he also reveals that he found a bag with the Watcher's symbol on it (beware those with eyes).

I have a feeling one of the Watchers assassinated Sooth, because by killing the Chosen, the Eternal would rise and turn everybody into ambrosia, which they could then mine into edgeless stones. It also makes sense that Charlie would make up a lie to justify those who were native-born in Blackgate, since most of those on the list would be The Chosen. It also makes sense that Kody would ask how many chairs were left, since that would reveal how many more people needed to be assassinated. The one missing chair would be Sooth's.

I also noticed something peculiar. In Vekk's night 1, Newton says he was writing the journal entry in the year 1630. However, he was born in 1643. I can't imagine this being an accident, considering his bio is readily available. Perhaps this will have significance later.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 02:05:27 No.1153436
>>1153215
So, are we getting night 7 and 8 for Rotis like next update? Or what?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 04:10:00 No.1153462
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>>1153436
Bane's said that construction route is next, then jack, then kitako. Though he may have some minor updates to other routes. Speaking of which
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 04:15:27 No.1153463
>>1153462

It feels like I've waited so long for this, yet all it does is make me sad.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 04:45:21 No.1153469
>>1153463
Ugh, thanks for reminding me of that again... I was really starting to get into that image. Fap ruined...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 07:03:32 No.1153486
No Rotis humps :(
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 12:40:05 No.1153515
>>1153462
Too handsome.
Fug.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 14:01:07 No.1153523
>>1153469

If I'm going to be miserable, I'm taking you with me

sadboners for everyone
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 20:13:07 No.1153637
does anyone have the original WIP jacksexscene.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/24 20:43:00 No.1153643
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>>1153637
Someone should shoop a paper bag over his face.
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Wulfy 2016/09/25 01:00:05 No.1153855
>>1153643
It's just an outline so that the mask could be fitted.... >.>
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Furrynomous 2016/09/25 01:36:52 No.1153889
>>1153855
I know that... it would still be hilarious if Jack shoved a paper bag over MC's face instead of that bondage mask.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/25 09:38:52 No.1154000
oh...I want to have sex with Rotis…. I am worried about a continuance.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/26 01:58:08 No.1154273
>>1153462
Dem husbando teeth, <3
Now that Krane we know and love . . . T3T *Dem feels*
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Furrynomous 2016/09/26 22:52:53 No.1154527
Is the only change .50 Rotis?
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Wulfy 2016/09/27 02:56:40 No.1154613
>>1153462
ALL HAIL DARKGEM,

I never doubted you.

(Krane, ride me, bend me over, take me now. <3)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 14:00:39 No.1156005
argh Rotis why do you keep avoiding MC.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/01 15:39:48 No.1157065
Omg please, somone, krane's face after cum wen mc id the top, omg is so weird and funny. Btw blackgate 0.51 is out whit malo rest of night 6 and part of 7. Along whit krane bottom route and some minor changes in alin's route as well.

Edited at 2016/10/01 15:42:48
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Furrynomous 2016/10/01 19:06:19 No.1157111
What route should I play/is the most finished, for my first time through?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/01 19:10:56 No.1157112
Seek what your heart desires! But so far, the longest route (and the saddest one) its krane's that goes until night 8 go see in the blackgate wiki and chose your monster husbando
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Furrynomous 2016/10/01 23:59:09 No.1157153
>>1157111
None of them are complete or close to completion yet.

My personal favorites are Krane (Pick Techno on the radio at the start then choose to be a cop. Also the longest currently), Rotis (Pick random on the radio, then become a cop), and Vincent (Choose to be a librarian and it should be obvious how to continue from there.)
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Furrynomous 2016/10/02 03:55:46 No.1157242
Jack root in the next schedule will be updated.
Jack! Jack!! Jack love-! It's fun!
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Furrynomous 2016/10/02 06:35:10 No.1157306
Has Bane ever set a target date for completion? Seems like even the assets aren't close to done.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/02 10:19:50 No.1157340
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No, he didnt yet but if you look in the images in the game files you will see that there's a picture for night 13, so im guessing that will take some time for the game to be finished. I hope, more suspense and mystery for us
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Furrynomous 2016/10/02 13:30:57 No.1157372
>>1157242
Yeah same, really looking forward to it. Hoping there's a sex scene with it too but there probably won't be
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Furrynomous 2016/10/04 20:28:14 No.1158913
I just realized, I don't think the end of what we have of the Krane route where he removes his teeth has a "to be continued" screen.

Thats not just a bad end is it? I sure hope not, theres definitely potential to be had there.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/04 20:40:07 No.1158916
>>1158913
Upon checking again, there is a "To be continued" screen.
So i was worried for nothing
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Furrynomous 2016/10/04 21:40:07 No.1158945
Man, Malo's path is pretty good so far.

I wonder what the relevance of Spoiler will be. Maybe its the actual being that calls the eternal?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/04 23:56:26 No.1158968
>>1158945
What if it IS the eternal @_@
Dang "TBC" D:
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Furrynomous 2016/10/05 00:26:38 No.1158973
>>1158968
Or perhaps... the human that'll save the town?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/05 02:05:15 No.1159012
>>1158973
I dunno.
I especialyl dunno how any of the other groups would justify ending up all the way down in old blackgate.

Unless theres like a passage in the Mayor's office that leads there.
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/05 07:22:45 No.1159083
>>1158968
Let's go deeper! (heh heh)
We are told the Eternal wants to trample Blackgate to get to the other side.
What if the Eternal is just a human who wanted to go back to Earth so bad, they turned into this eldritch horror?
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Anon98127 2016/10/06 21:35:42 No.1159702
>>1151806

Seems that ABRAXAS game you posted about is gone i guess...the patreon page was deleted and either way its not a gay game since the MC is a girl
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Furrynomous 2016/10/07 22:04:48 No.1159991
I'm about to give up. I picked 'construction' as a job and now I'm LOCKED in a story I'm not interested in and being PUSHED toward one character as a route that I didn't even get to see beforehand.

Usually you get to meet different people and decide who you want to get to know. There really should be some kind of preview before you decide a job if that is the only choice you get.

Is there a way to interact with the Boar police officer? He said he left his number but you are given no opportunity to use it.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/07 22:19:59 No.1159994
>>1159991

You can partner with Gruff by choosing soft rock on the radio and becoming a police officer.

Check the wiki if you want to see how to partner with certain characters.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/08 04:03:46 No.1160321
>>1159991
Theres so many characters, its not really feasible to give everyone time before you make your choice.

I guess just check the wiki and see which one looks good to you so you know what the conditions are to get them.

With the Library and Bar, you can hang out with them a bit before you make your decision, but with the cops and construction crew, your decision is made before you meet them.

Though currently Vincent is the only one with any actual path at the library.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/08 04:11:31 No.1160323
>>1159991
Don't have to be so dramatic about it ya know.

FYI, the construction routes are basically their own thing, the other routes have cross group meetings, but the construction route basically is just you and your partner without any real connection with any of the other workers.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/08 08:20:24 No.1160407
Gruff update in November... *dies waiting*
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Furrynomous 2016/10/08 17:25:31 No.1160557
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>>1159994
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I'll give it another try. I chose 'pop' because I was role-playing trying not to go to sleep.

>>1160321
I think maybe they should give the player a day or two before choosing a job. Perhaps have you help deliver the pay rolls or do odd jobs around town so you can meet all route options and get an idea of what the storyline is about. But really I would prefer it if the job choice wasn't so damning in general.

>>1160323
I was not dramatic enough. This is very odd to be locked into such a small world by a single choice that sounds so superficial. After choosing construction the game became work-sleep-work-sleep-work. One character to interact with (That I wasn't at all attracted to) and the game constantly is throwing him at me.

I just wanted muscles and a hardhat...
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Furrynomous 2016/10/09 03:29:14 No.1160885
Gonna be honest, I was hoping MC had some latent powers, but that doesn't seem to be the case based on Malo's update. Granted, he is Spoiler, but he is still very weak physically compared to everyone else in Blackgate. I have no idea how MC will survive Krane's route after what happened last update.

>>1160557
Honestly, the construction routes are kind of an anomaly in the game itself. The Police and Librarian routes are much more interesting, since they involve all the other characters, and you get to see a different side of them all depending on who you get paired with. The construction routes are meant to be more of a visual experience, but IMO that doesn't really work too well, since the main draw of VNs for me are the characters. Reading text descriptions of scenery/environments doesn't draw me in like seeing character sprites and learning more about the characters in the world.

I recommend trying either the library route, or ideally the police route. That's where the game excels.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/09 03:36:56 No.1160886
>>1159702
No, that project is not dead.

The demo is not available for download, but they have a Tumblr page with the animated sprites. This is what I mean by an ideal environment for the final version of Blackgate:

http://painted-bees.tumblr.com/post/149463864702/based-on-a-lot-of-the-comments-i-get-it-seems-a

As you can see, it's a clear, interactive environment. That would really be awesome for Blackgate, because it would make it incredibly immersive.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/09 04:01:16 No.1160891
>>1160557
Well aside from the bar, none of the groups are really quite like what they are like in real life. The cops exist to basically check out/kill trespassers in Blackgate, the librarians are basically the people who solve crimes, and the construction workers just dig.
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Wrath 2016/10/12 09:52:17 No.1162241
how to make your own e-shards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBZIV-cRNU
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Wulfy 2016/10/12 21:02:16 No.1162351
>>1160886
UGH

I know that is your opinion and what you want out of visual novels, but I, PERSONALLY, fucking hate the reason "makes it more immersive."

I don't need a book to be told from a certain perspective to be good. I also don't need to think I am Link to find Zelda game enjoyable. In fact, immersion ruins the story for me because my actions may differ from the list of actions permitted by the game. Instead, I want to empathize with characters, not be one.

Blackgate is, granted, in the case where immersion is more opinion, but even so, I don't think immersion is increased just because I can explore. The constraints of trying to find normality and not being able to inspect every detail actually make MORE sense than the freedom to investigate as one sees fit.

While, yes, we *could* do that in real life, that isn't how humans operate. Despite poking fun of psychology (fiction section), bane has demonstrated a pretty good understanding of how humans process events, even the traumatic shift from one life to a new one (in Blackgate).

Note how as days go on, the MC is realizing he isn't flinching at the monsters. His mind is recognizing endearing features of the monsters he is most normally around, and by finding a surprising amount of humanity in others, he realizes that he might be less "human" (the abstract idea of what it means to be human) than the monsters around him. (Why not cry at Sooth's passing? Why does nothing phase you? Etc.)

One criticism that one could lob at Bane is the failure to present a complicated protagonist, but here's the thing; humans are actually WAY less complicated than they portray themselves in literature. Look, SOME people are not. Some people have nuance and inner conflict because they looked into the abyss of their soul and realized how philosophically inconsistent they are. They are plagued not by genius, as some claim, but the realization of how at odds their actual wants/needs are with their public wants and needs. There is a certain crushing feeling in realizing that you have your own resolvable dilemma and it is in that way we are a well formed, self aware human.

But most people don't READ enough or THINK enough to every really flesh out their character. If something is too hard, they put it to faith and assume it's fine. (The shark guy actually points out how things work out for humans, but that's because of ad hoc rationalizing and our mental defense of saying "it could have been worse." For us, the only time things went irrevocably bad is basically death or near mortal injury.) Others simply don't want to confront their inner conflict and just ignore it. They assume they are consistent and live in blissful ignorance, but this doesn't make the ignorant man better. Rather, it makes them unenlightened and their only contribution of the greater whole is their own selfish happiness, never knowing the insignificance of an average life and thus never knowing the work and toil, the sweet joy of failure or success in trying to make even the smallest contribution overall.

Yes, MOST people fail to contribute or even attain a higher influence than the common man. However, one could view it as almost sinful to never try. The difference between given up Alin and rejuvenated Alin is a stark contrast. Failure is not a reason to give up and run from your past. While we don't know if he's rewarded for his renewed effort, I think Alin's attempt, even if its in failure, is superior to the drunken stupor of giving up.

Another example is Vincent; he lost Amelia and buried inside himself. Now, he doesn't even realize Longma is a mole, that Kitako is useless in a potential fight, and his best friends won't be able to help him because its easier to not actually confront the complicated inner workings of himself. As he attaches to the player, he is forced to talk to Alin and Gruff again, and despite his bristly nature, he will likely manage to become more useful and stronger by actually handling his demons.

Even Plox believes he has to try, and Rotis' entire society is basically structured on an idea of honor that rewards attempt even in the face of failure. (Note the escape pod and his use of it; it seems certain that they care for those who will contribute and reflect on themselves and others.)

Rotis is an interesting, if unintended, case because people who never doubt others are often the least involved with their friends. Doubt is important and valuable, because a wrong assumption forces communication and leads to deeper understanding. Rotis' doubtful nature causes him to know the human in a far deeper way than we do Krane. In fact, we only learn about Krane through his weakness, we learn about Rotis by his apprehension, and in that way, Rotis is (as much as I love my sad bat boyfriend) a better, more emotionally invested character.


ANYWAY, my essay went off track on something more interesting, but the point is I think that too much control hurts the Blackgate themes and story.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/13 00:30:26 No.1162396
>>1162351
The way I see it, though, Blackgate could keep the exact same dialogue/everything, and just use an engine like that to make the world much more visually interesting. How would that detract from anything? This would be especially helpful on the construction route, since so much of that has to do with a visual description. Did you look at the links to see how immersive the backgrounds were? Imagine that with the construction route, that would be awesome.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/13 05:23:24 No.1162548
This is a pretty minor detail, but I'm still wondering.

Will characters in the Police and Construction route get off duty sprites? Its kinda odd when they change out of their police uniform back into their police uniform in the locker room.

Of course thats hardly a super important detail, but it would be cool if they did get off duty clothes. I wouldn't mind seeing what Krane and Rotis's fashion style looks like off duty.
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/13 11:01:14 No.1162634
>>1162548
They should get them, eventually.
I suppose it is considered a low-ish priority? Gruff did get a set of poses and expressions, I suppose the rest of the cast will follow. I guess it gets posponed because it is a long, tedious chore for the sprite artist?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/13 16:46:16 No.1162777
Guys, i need somone to talk to me. For what i've played of blackgate i coud see only 6 "major" routes. First we have the counstruction route, that in any of the 3 guys they all end in the same, you go to the old blackgate and then we dont know, then we have the gruff, alin and vicent routes counverging in the sooth profecy, we have rotis, plox and probably longma routes converging in the alliance whit the Insightful group, then we have the separated routes, Jack's that we probably wont go either whit the Insightful or the Andras Side, We have also Krane's route, that focus more in the romance than the real mystery surrounding blackgate. Last but no least we have Helle's route that like Krane, focus more in the romance rather than the mystery and then we have in my opinion the most interesting route in regards of the mystery. Kody's, his route is off everything, dont go to the insightful or andras he goes on another mystery. The mystery surrounding the shapershifter, that according to Charlie, is a bigger danger than the eternal itself. That is the info that i coud accumulate so far. There is also the Beleth thing in plox route, that explains a lot of the lore, there is also the vekk route, that in the end shows that MC is actually bi, is a complemetation for the mystery surround blackgate.. is so cool that a game like blackgate is being created. it has great potetial, whit it hidden lore and myster, i just love that. That is what i could get so far,if somone has anything else to add please say! (sorry for the bad english anyways! im dont speak "blackgate" naturally)

Edited at 2016/10/13 16:48:55
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Furrynomous 2016/10/13 21:40:19 No.1162829
R u from scandinavia?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/13 22:04:59 No.1162868
what? no im not from scandinavia, actually i did'nt knew that a place whit the name sandinavia existed... im from the birthplace of huehue
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Wulfy 2016/10/14 01:03:26 No.1163009
>>1162868
Oh, Brazil. Neat.
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AnthroAquatic 2016/10/14 14:13:15 No.1163163
Hey there, Sean here (Bane's editor)

I'm going to be away this weekend. If it wasn't for that, this update probably would have been out on the 15th. Sorry guys, I'm horrible.

I'll be editing the content on Monday, so the release should be out sometime next week (we're hoping for Tuesday).

Edited at 2016/10/14 15:59:00
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Blackgate Bane 2016/10/14 20:14:58 No.1163235
Hi there Bane here,

>>1163163
Sean you messed up the format. It's also not Sean's fault since he's not the worst but I am. Also...
>>1162351
Holy! That's a lot of insight. I'm glad you can think about characters this way it makes me happy. Get attached to Rotis please... just like you got attached to Krane. : ) I hope nothing horrible happens to your favorite characters. [You can't have horror without romance].

Edited at 2016/10/14 20:15:21
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Furrynomous 2016/10/14 21:46:16 No.1163242
>>1163235
I'm getting attached to gruff, give me more of a reason to love that big guy.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/14 22:26:04 No.1163271
>>1163235

Krane or bust. If I can't have him, I want to burn it to the ground. Destroy everything and anyone I can, fuck it. Full tilt.
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/14 23:12:43 No.1163280
>>1163235
>Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the foulest foul of all?

Well, he said he's horrible, which means you can still be THE worst.
Also, it's nice to see you here! :O

>>1163271
Nonsense, Rotis and Eterni are the prime hasubando material. Maybe Alin. I guess Helle is cool too. Damn. >_>;
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 00:38:49 No.1163316
>>1163271
That's really the only choice MC has left in Krane's route. He will be killed either way (lynched by mob or killed by eternal), so the way I see it, he may as well destroy his enemies too.
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AnthroAquatic 2016/10/15 00:43:44 No.1163318
>>1163235

It's my format and I can cry if I want to. Or party. #TeamKrane #Choices #BaneIsADickForKillingSadBatBoyfriend
I don't think I know how pound signs work.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 01:21:39 No.1163329
>>1163318
The revolution Shall Begin!!!
#DeathtoBane!
Bane, That is what you get for killing the best man in town sweetie. Die in an endless agony, worst than Krane did! (actually dont die bane we need you for finishing the story of blackgate and the mysterys surrounding it. btw lov u oh great writer of this marvelous universe. xoxo)

Edited at 2016/10/15 01:22:50
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 01:34:09 No.1163337
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>>1163280
Just listen little dear, stop, saying so much nonsense. Krane is "the" husband. there is no other way to see it, accept the truth or die! (actually dont die, you family probably loves you, im doing just intrigue, but a health one, is all a playfull comment ok?)
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 01:46:25 No.1163341
>>1163235
Hey Bane!

Are alternate sprites for the Police and Construction characters in the cards? Like out of uniform sprites for the cops and I guess in uniform for construction workers?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 01:47:43 No.1163343
>>1163316
>>1163318
>>1163329
So, would you want the path where Krane is dead to update next, or the path where Krane is toothless to update next, if you could choose?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 05:00:18 No.1163393
>>1163343

Gee, what fantastic options. Dead, or mutilated and depressed? WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!

#BurnItDown
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 05:59:05 No.1163415
>>1163393
Mutilated but still alive. Theres always that chance for recovery.

But if he dies in both paths, and its permanent, I will be sad.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 10:27:46 No.1163452
>>1163343
Neither of those, because, wen mc and krane go to the breach they are the only cops at the moment, even tothless krane would have to go to kill the outsider, whit you, and if normal he died (T,T) imagine if he was mentally unstable.anyway, he path will or end whit mc waking the eternal because he dont care for shit anymore or he will revive krane, humans have some sort of power in blackgate, just like his heart came back on its own. Its the best case scenario tought, krane could just die and just that. mc would'nt care that much because mc is cold, just like he don't care wen sooth dies and everyone around him is like, oh no sooth died that is so sad, and he is like, dont fucking care, i didn't knew him anyways. But, if you go in the tumblr for blackgate, Blackgatenights.com in the questions that the blackgate crew answered, there will be good endings and there wont be a route that mc end alone, whitout a partner, see, krane will be whit us again, hopefully.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 10:42:37 No.1163455
Guys, what is the characters original languages?
Like, we know that Plox speaks Germany, Rotis language is from another planet and Krane's is French, but what about the rest of the cast? anyone has any clues?

Edited at 2016/10/15 10:47:30
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/15 12:35:00 No.1163466
>>1163415
Indeed, as MC-kun said: blood loss and injuries are better than death.
Also, Krane dying on both routes would mean that the only option we have to let him live is not to have him as your hasubando, and that would not be good storytelling in this kind of VN
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 12:44:30 No.1163467
>>1163466
Like I said earlier, though, Krane would probably die even if he wasn't your husbando. He would be the only officer on duty on night 7, and would have to face that carbon-fiber monster alone, where he would most likely perish.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 15:00:13 No.1163476
I honestly kind of fucking hate the MC for being such a useless coward. Like, even if some deus ex machina shit happens and we get Krane back MC is still a piece of shit for leaving him for dead in the first place.

I would never have just run off and left Krane to be mauled by the outsider. MC should have taken his gun and shoved it up the thing's asshole and unloaded, shredding its insides while it was distracted, instead of uselessly shooting at its protected hide and then going 'well guess that didnt work, time to pussy out!'
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 15:49:11 No.1163486
>>1163476
Correct me if I'm wrong but I have another theory: what if the MC ran away to prevent the outsider to hurt Krane even more? The outsider was chasing the MC through the woods to the cabin...

Edited at 2016/10/15 15:50:31
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/15 15:52:17 No.1163487
>>1163476
Let's see.
MC is a weak human in a town filled with scary monsters, and you'r fighting even nastier monsters which even your monster buddies have a hard time taking down, what makes you think you'd act any differently? Seriously, it's just instinct; normally flight trips fight, but when you shoot something and it doesn't die, I guess it's just normal to lose it and run away.
It just shows how human MC is, really.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 18:07:03 No.1163515
>>1163487
The behavior may be understandable, but it's not excusable.
And, in another way, it's not understandable. Remember that the MC, in all of his routes, seems to be latching on to the "chosen monster." If the MC does have a (ma/)paternal instinct, he probably has the instinct to try everything to save his special monster's life.

But, this is a story centered around hoplessness and so it would be silly to allow the main character to be competent.
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/10/15 18:47:58 No.1163521
Aside from krane, gruff is getting an update around november. Does this mean MC will be cooking meals for gruff? I hope so, like krane that boar needs happiness in his life.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 21:14:22 No.1163550
guys, i've noticed a interesting thing in my playtrought, wen mc is a cop, you can in night 2 and 3 choose were you want to spend your free time, library, diner, bar or park, or just go home, veek says that he will be in the library and he thinks that mc should go to learn about the monsters, in night 2 if you go, you will learn about the reaper and the white whisps, but if you go on the night 3 veek will pick a book for you, one of his fav, is the tale of madame lalaurie, that one that if you've watched American horror story coven you know her, but to sum up, she is a lady that in first appears to be very kind, but further in the story you know that she torture slaves and uses blood and organs of the slaves affirming to be the secret for infinite life, anyways, is strange how veek picked that book for you. I tought that veek is trying to warn the player about Andras. At first Andras seems to want the best for Blackgate, but perhaps not. If you check andras origin, He is a demon featured in the lesser key of solomon, and that codex says that Andras is demon that the magician shoud be carefull due his liar and dangerous nature, the question is, is Andras the real "good guy"? what you guys thing about this teory?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 21:58:29 No.1163556
>>1163476
It's normal for the police to run away from powerful outsiders, as revealed in Rotis' route. Worst case scenario, they retreat to the station and return with reinforcements.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 22:58:46 No.1163632
Tbh, both krane and mc did wrong in night 7, first of all, Aradina warned about the carbon fiber skin, so is only natural to percept that normal weapons wouldnt work, but krane and mc use normal pistols for the encounter, later krane use a type of laser gun or somenthing like. That was the big mistake, if mc had a proper gun, piercing one he would have killed the outsider wen it ravaged krane, then krane could feast in the outsider blood to regen himself.. but idk, bane thinks that is better what is currently in the game, ok then.. i just hope for the best
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Furrynomous 2016/10/15 23:36:41 No.1163643
>>1163476
MC is far from cowardly, hell krane's path shows how far he's willing to go. Also during that scenario it was either high tail it and lead the monster from krane or end up just like him. There was no way MC could have taken the monster by himself. Retreating and returning in greater numbers to combat the threat was the only logical thing to do.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/16 00:31:29 No.1163655
>>1163476
Well considering Krane is probably stronger/more agile/ better in combat than you and he got fucking wrecked, what the hell were you supposed to do?

Especially considering every path where it catches you is an instant game over.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/16 01:24:59 No.1163681
>>1163655
Thank you. Gruff, Krane, and Plox are one of the most powerful among the police force. If the get downed by some random monster you guys were intercepting. Running away would be the only logical option.

Also you guys noticed in Krane's route that the lack of police officers. When i read about that i felt it was a calm before the storm.

With gruff incapacitated(or dead, helle said that kody TRIED to kill him), lack of officers and that monster mauling krane. Things are going to hit the fan very soon.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/16 03:28:13 No.1163708
>>1163550
I'm not sure about Andras being evil... but if Bane incorporated the traditional Goetia lore into Blackgate, I have a feeling Leraje's plans to overthrow Andras will fail. It seems like Leraje is too ambitious and too arrogant to have his coup be successful. There are many dubious things about Leraje's plans, such as the haste, his lack of care for contingencies (assuming Alin is too drunk to care, assuming the battle will be quick, etc.) If Andras is the demon who sows discord and doubt, and he is paranoid and secluded in his castle (city hall), he should be able to ride out the coup, convince Leraje's followers that Leraje will fail, and then kill Leraje. Leraje is also not subtle about his motivation, and surely Andras would know of the lack of police on night 7. Also, if humans bring about change, Andras would have planned for MC to arrive, and change to follow shortly, so he would have had an advantage of knowing there would be some action against him and planned a defense before MC even arrived.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/16 03:45:28 No.1163721
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BANE... I hereby summon you to answer my question. Have you actually tried to summon any Goetic demons in your personal life, or is it all fiction?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/16 12:22:39 No.1163863
>>1163721
Lol hahahaha that's definetly bane's seal. A big dick. Hope he did'nt tried to summon demons, or maybe he succeeded, i mean, look at the blackgate lore and everything, or bane has a fucking great imagination and good searching skills or he made a deal whit vekk, i mean, the devil.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/10/17 01:35:06 No.1164053
Hi there Bane here,

>>1163721
I see you've summoned me. I've been reading all that you've been saying and you're all so gloom and doom. No I've never summoned a demon... yet. It's all fiction but all fiction comes from something real if a bit skewed. I think I have an okay imagination. It kinda goes out into the realm of obscure, scary, and bizarre very quickly. As I've said from the beginning, it's all about balance and perspective. You'll get to see how dead the rabbit hole goes eventually. It's all there but I just need to execute it. There's no horror, tension nor drama if there's no romance. Also best summon sign ever.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/17 10:16:54 No.1164197
>>1164053

People are weird, especially furry fans of a VN. I have no idea why they can't separate the backstory of a fictional world from reality.

Bane, you're doing a great job and although I personally wish the updates would rock my shit every week, I can understand why they don't.

People read into this stuff WAY more than it needs to be be. It's a great story so far and I will continue to enjoy the updates.

It sucks, but Krane might 100% be legit dead, guys. We're gonna have to deal with that. People NEED to accept that the Player is not any of those other characters. They can die, they get scared, they're not powerful in that sense.

I personally would love if Krane got an option to be magicked back and the story that way continues, but I can absolutely see the Player seeing the war off in the distance of the town, remembering their husbando dead on the ground and just embracing the abyss and deciding to burn the town to the ground, maybe for something to start over.

I can 100% believe someone they've fallen in love dying and being lost forever causes the Player to give up on saving this version of Blackgate and end it all.

It's not a happy end, but it's a pretty satisfying one as the Player can then detail the destruction of the town and that system somehow, choosing to embrace the Eternal and just let the whole thing burn out spectacularly rather than live without Krane.

We don't have a Bad End scenario yet, and if it eventually becomes a possibility as a result of the fucked up shit of Blackgate coming back to bite its own ass, I'm okay with it.

Bane, I love the game so far. I'll be here for the entire ride.

Edited at 2016/10/17 10:19:23
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Dizzy 2016/10/17 13:42:03 No.1164228
>>1164197

For someone like me its not an issue of immersion, but just what I enjoyed. Blackgate largely had an 'ok' storyline, and I started supporting it when I got the scene of krane removing his fangs.

The story of krane is just much more interesting than the story of blackgate itself, the character had an intense moment and there was signifigant conflict between him & the PC & his own instincts. Most of the other characters feel extremely human in their desires and actions, but krane genuinely felt like a monster trying to be human.

With his death, I stopped supporting just because that was it. The good story ended for me. I don't care about blackgate's overall story or the other characters, so I haven't bothered keeping up with new versions since and just plan to see if there's any additional story to krane post-release.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/10/17 19:53:51 No.1164354
Hi there Bane here,

>>1164228
You give up too easily when the choices will be there before you. They're not there yet but hold onto hope when all seems wrong. Krane's story doesn't end unfinished. Each character has an arc that explores something very personal to me. Some are easier to explore/explain/write than others. Some are different perspectives on the same topic. I take it as a huge compliment when you say that the character feel real because they're coming from a real place... kinda (allegories, metaphors, and all that jazz). This is probably going too far into the creative process than I otherwise should divulge. Right now I'm focusing on structure of the arcs more than the choices that will change them. As a side note, the reason why I jump around between routes all the time is that I've found out that when I write something in one route... the small details that come out of it... need to be echoed elsewhere. Some of them are complete accidents during the creative process (Gruff end of night 6) and you can see the effect of that night ripple out through the rest of the routes as I write more. I have a plan but sometimes things don't go according to plan and it's in those moments that I latch onto better ideas to explore topics. As Bob Ross said "We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents." I'll go back to being my awful self now.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/17 21:44:12 No.1164387
Hahaha! OK, Ok, damn guys, while I may have started the whole 'burn it down' thing, I wasn't expecting to get so many of ya'll riled up. Though I am glad to see team Krane is as bloodthirsty as we should be. Appropriate.

That said, I don't want Bane to feel like he's getting a ton of hate for writing the story he wants to write. Sad as I would be if we can't get at least a passably happy ending with bat husband, it is what it is, and we'll hug it out and move on with our lives.

(but not before kicking the eternal in the dick and trying to get it to destroy Blackgate)*cough* I MEAN-- ....
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Furrynomous 2016/10/18 08:56:57 No.1164775
I really hope Bane sees his fans more than the haters :)

While the "perfect" scenario of Krane dying would be something pulled through or salvaged and the Player still going forth to help the town, Krane coming back because of his abilities, etc, I really wouldn't mind one fully-written option for the Player to become something of a bad guy.

So many decisions and choices and I can't go "fuck these jerks, they killed bat husband, I'm gonna salt the earth, hey Eternal let's tag in and do work"

And then dunno, something something I am the new Elder God, fused with the Eternal, something something, power unattainable is attained and I am ushered into power structure where I deem the rise and fall of civilizations worthy or not something something

There ya go, basically just already perfectly written :)

Print it, ship it, my check's in the mail
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Furrynomous 2016/10/18 15:42:59 No.1164835
I guess that some people caught it wrong, we (at least me) don't hate bane for killing Bat Husbando, we're just arguing about the fact, if bane chose to kill Krane, ok too bad, he will be missed but we dont hate Bane for that, it adds more drama to the history making it even better! #TeamKrane #BaneWeLoveYou #Baneyoudonthavehatersonlyfansxoxo
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End of Evilgelatin. 2016/10/18 19:32:44 No.1164901
So each character has a specific theme attached to them, i guess MC's theme would be Humanity or his lack of humanity.

Gruff, Alin, and Vincent share a theme of love and loss but they also have their own sub theme as well...

what do you guys think?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/18 21:39:53 No.1164936
>>1164901
I think that the "thing" around MC is his humanity or lack of it too, but are'nt all the characters involved about the loss of the loved ones and the Love whit mc? I mean, Jack "lost" his son and wife, but sees on MC a chance of reviving those fellings, Krane also cound't restrain his blood thirst and lost Friends and loved ones as well, i dunno.. i guess that isnt exclusive for those 3 that you mentioned but i see that is more part of their characters than in those that i mentioned, though we dont see much of Amelia in Vincent's route..

By the way will Blackgate 0.52 come out today?
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AnthroAquatic 2016/10/18 22:17:17 No.1164943
>>1164936

That depends if he sends me the update. *Glares*

If he gets it to me...nowish, then maybe. If not, we're looking at tomorrow, more likely.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/18 22:57:11 No.1164947
>>1164943
Wait, why didn't Bane send you the update over the weekend when you were gone?
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AnthroAquatic 2016/10/19 00:16:04 No.1164969
>>1164947

It wasn't finished. This update has more content than expected, so it's taking a bit longer for him to get it to me. He is working hard on finishing it as I type.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/19 00:49:25 No.1164978
>>1164969

Late again? I guess I should stop being surprised at this point.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/19 00:51:43 No.1164984
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>>1164969
thanks anthro dont get yourself too tired ok? rest and drink water, same goes to bane. You guys take care and dont overburden yourselfs produce blackgate in a healty way! Please dont think that because there's so many people charging that from you that you need to overburden! we are all humans and have limits

Edited at 2016/10/19 00:55:44
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Furrynomous 2016/10/19 09:58:40 No.1165221
I'm okay waiting. If I wasn't, I wouldn't support the game nor be here.

I'll be happy when it comes, but until then, the schedule's been a pretty solid 3 weeks, then 1 week, which might as well be 2 and 2.

I'm just excited that it's soon! woooooo
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Furrynomous 2016/10/19 20:10:13 No.1165304
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Who /kitako/ here?
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Vael 2016/10/19 22:08:30 No.1165319
Take your time, its not like patrons are being charged on a timed basis, its by demo. Besides, I would much rather be told a time and have it missed, so I have an expectation, than to just be told the "It'll be done when it's done." garbage like from Apollo making the Rise of Mannimarco Skyrim mod.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 00:02:11 No.1165344
Hey, I hardly object to a delay if the reason is that it has MORE content than expected. More DogDaddy is better <3
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 03:10:12 No.1165503
Will there be an update tonight? I don't want to rush, I just want to know if I should stay up late to wait or not.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 04:17:07 No.1165530
>>1165304
Eh, he seems a bit mentally slow for my tastes.
And his body isn't doing much for me either
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 07:37:41 No.1165583
Did you play his route? I don't think hes mentaly slow, its more that he can't express himself very good in english. He learned it from Vincent and isn't influenced by the language spell. Maybe he is kinda resistant to magic or his species dosn't have a language, so he had to learn to speak.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 07:52:41 No.1165584
I personqlly like Kitako a lot. his route isn't that interesting yet but I do like him as a character.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 08:06:48 No.1165585
>>1165503
Updates never release on time, any date you hear just tack on a week and that way you won't be disappointed.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 08:11:15 No.1165586
People make a mistake about Kitako. He's a simple character. People mistake that for being slow. He's not slow, he just doesn't think the same way as others, and he's probably the least scheming character in the whole town.

Play the Library route, pay a LOT of attention to walking to the Cabin with Kitako, and choose to bunk with him. It's short, but the guy has some pretty good insight to the town.

He's not slow, he's just different in how he communicates. He's to the point, direct, and kinda shielded from life so far, but he's pretty intelligent, notices things, and if all else fails, could probably protect the Player among the best of them.

Plus he's the only one to mention a pretty unique idea about the Player: them being a Glass Cannon.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 11:20:11 No.1165606
I agree, Kitako just doesn't do it for me.

Gruff is a body type I'm not into; but damn do I <3 that boar
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 12:42:39 No.1165616
>>1165304
I do, he's cool and fun. Not my type at first but I still did his route and ended up loving it, even though I learned it was short, I especially like his loving personality...it grew on me and he made it into my top 5 easily
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 13:37:25 No.1165636
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 21:14:05 No.1165796
Is there a page somewhere that shows how many days each route has currently?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/20 22:54:21 No.1165815
>>1165796
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NH9FEuEYj-1lbs74spkxeUR0vQp-1NChrlUKLAZiNNo/edit#gid=0
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 00:04:03 No.1165833
>>1165815
Thank you.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 00:05:07 No.1165834
>>1165815
Keep it up.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 00:26:54 No.1165839
you're all welcome, by the way , why didnt the update was not released??w
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 00:32:12 No.1165841
>>1165815
This is cool, though you should split Krane into two paths, since the one where he does destroy his teeth is still ongoing.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 03:20:12 No.1165885
>>1165839
Maybe on sick leave?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 06:58:45 No.1165954
>>1165841

I'm not that guy, but I don't think it's gotten to the point of needing 2 routes yet. If they keep diverging, yeah it will.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 09:52:25 No.1165996
Keep ya guys updated about the update but lookin like ~Sunday/Monday-ish. #writingishard


https://twitter.com/Blackgate_VN/status/789372151052767232
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 11:02:25 No.1166016
>>1165996
Sucks but hope the couple extra days is worth it.

And by that I mean another sex scene and plenty of Bane indulging in his daddy kink.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 14:18:15 No.1166077
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we wait for 3 weeks and bane will give us the rest of night 6 in Jack's route ¬¬
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 14:49:34 No.1166137
>>1165996

How does a tuesday estimate for this week turn into monday next week.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 17:04:08 No.1166167
>>1165954
Well it would be pretty dumb if the path is the exact same for both versions with the only difference being Krane is hurt the entire time in one.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 18:32:11 No.1166189
Is Longma ever gonna get an update?
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Vael 2016/10/21 22:45:27 No.1166274
>>1166189
I sure hope so, he seems so interesting to me!
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Furrynomous 2016/10/21 22:52:01 No.1166277
>>1166189

Maybe. Low tiers tend to get relatively few updates...which is true across pretty much all games.
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/10/22 01:22:21 No.1166298
>>1166277

so...

High Tiers
Alin
Krane
Malo
Gruff
Rotis

Mid tier
Jack
Vincent
Plox
Eterni

Low tier
Kitako
Longma
Helle
Kody
Chrome
Andras/Vekk
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Furrynomous 2016/10/22 04:46:59 No.1166332
>>1166298
Nah, for me its like
High Tiers
Vincent
Rotis
Krane
Malo

Mid tier
Jack
Gruff
Eterni
Helle
Andras/Vekk

Low tier
Kitako
Longma
Plox
Kody
Chrome
Alin
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Furrynomous 2016/10/22 04:48:55 No.1166333
>>1166298

Looks about right, for the most part. Might've swapped Vincent and Malo, but that's just me.
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/22 08:02:28 No.1166362
>>1166332
>Eterni
>Mid tier

>Alin
>Low tier

You heathen. Both are top tier.
...
Although Alin would rather be bottom. If you know what I mean.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/22 09:22:00 No.1166370
If people keep saying "Chrome", I question their ability to read :)
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Furrynomous 2016/10/22 10:15:31 No.1166377
>>1166370
Shut up, Google Chrome.
Your lack of foresight when naming characters was dully noted.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/23 12:46:05 No.1166797
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"Wen you check your phone only to discover that the update will come out in the next week"
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Furrynomous 2016/10/23 16:19:46 No.1166866
>>1166362
I went Alin first because wolves, but I dunno. I think hes just too pathetic. i get thats part of his character, but the drunken loser schtick got old. I guess we are at the part in the story where he starts to get better, but for now hes definitely not one of my favorites.
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Bookwyrm 2016/10/23 17:56:21 No.1166891
>>1166866
I think we're getting there. I mean, he went Saitama on the bar's pet, after all. That was badass. <3
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Furrynomous 2016/10/23 23:46:18 No.1167033
>>1166797
Who is the Yuno of Blackgate?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 00:21:15 No.1167066
>>1167033
With the whole psychotic deal?

Jack, obviously.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 00:58:49 No.1167082
Is the update coming out tonight? Please let me know so I don't stay up late for nothing...
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 01:34:58 No.1167092
>>1167033
Idk, Jack fits , like the other guy said, but what i know for sure, is that im full Yuno for Sad Batboyfriend Krane <3
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 02:03:23 No.1167100
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 18:03:52 No.1167405
will the update come out this year?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/24 18:17:02 No.1167407
>>1167405

I sure hope so! I'd like to see more Jack before the possibility of a Trump presidency in America incites the apocalypse.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 03:09:25 No.1167506
>>1167405

at the rate this is going, the halloween update is going to come out before 0.52
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 04:03:43 No.1167517
What timezone is Bane? At least EST, the deadline is goooooooone.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 04:32:06 No.1167525
>>1167517
>Hey guys, the update should be coming out this weekend!

>Writing is hard, the update will be coming out this weekend!

Why do they even bother to get us excited about an update if they can't even stick to their procrastinated deadline? At this point, with less than a week between updates, there is no point in separating them and charging 2x. I limited my contribution to once monthly because of this.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 04:47:26 No.1167528
>>1167525

I mean, he's still presumably putting in the same amount of effort that he otherwise would have put in for whatever content will be a part of the Halloween update. His patrons are paying for the effort and time put in, not necessarily the release dates.

But that's just my take on it. I'm just annoyed that two people including Bane came here and got us excited about it, then pushed it back three (now four) times. I hope that the additional time at least reflects a lot of extra content that we wouldn't have otherwise seen if we got the original deadline.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 05:05:00 No.1167532
>>1167528

If his first update takes more than 3 weeks to make, I doubt that his second update he shites out in under a week to get that second payment would be of the same quality / length.

If both update per month were of the same quality / length, why does one of them take 3 times as long to make?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 05:14:54 No.1167534
Update has been edited, final shit getting hammered out. Unclear when posting, will continue to poke @MyTrueBane

https://twitter.com/Blackgate_VN/status/790779955776983040
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 14:16:19 No.1167656
Malo's route is rather creepy. The last thing you will find is a human baby.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 15:15:51 No.1167693
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 20:43:14 No.1167768
>>1167656
I'm pretty sure you will find the baby on all construction routes, at least on Malo's and Crome's route because Crome only has a little part of night 7 in the game folder that's about the baby. We'll have to wait to see if Eterni's route is a bit different.

Edited at 2016/10/25 20:44:08
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 21:16:51 No.1167776
>>1167768

In Crome's, sure. But not quite sure about Eterni, as you take a different path entirely on the last day. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up streamlined in the same direction though.

It feels like only the Police Officer routes are dynamic right now.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 21:32:56 No.1167777
>>1167776
Yea because it seems that Eterni is the only one that mentions that Decarabia is hiding something and wants to find out what it is. Also i hope that the Eterni's route gets updated in Novembers construction route update because he is 2 nights behind.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 21:41:20 No.1167781
you mean November of 2018 right? no way that Eterni's update will come out in the next month, i guess Blackgate is dead and bane will never update again. 25 days and 3000000000000 promises of release and still nothing····
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 21:50:51 No.1167783
>>1167781
Only the slightest exaggeration in this post, lol
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Furrynomous 2016/10/25 22:38:20 No.1167798
>>1167781
From some of his posts from Twitter and Patreon it seems that he writes those updates just a few days before the date that they are supposed to be released, I don't know why he does that. I think it would just be easier to mabye write some of the story on paper then put it in the story instead of waiting for a week and a half then write furiously for 3 days and missing the deadline. Just my opinion
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 00:27:43 No.1167815
5 DAYS UNTIL THE HALLOWEEN UPDATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGAvaUZOqXc
GET HYYYYYYYYYYPE
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 00:35:32 No.1167819
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we will wait patiently
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 04:01:56 No.1167867
wtf happened to the monday update
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 04:23:30 No.1167871
>>1167867
My bet it on next Monday.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 04:31:50 No.1167875
Don't want to be too hard on Bane, but the lack of communication and repeatedly missed deadlines for the same update are a bit grating.

Plus, it's almost Halloween, so we may well end up missing that update too, even if we get Jack's before then unless the Halloween update is minimal. Though I have no idea what's even supposed to be on the latter!
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Anon98127 2016/10/26 04:35:37 No.1167879
>>1167867
and then mysteriously another update within 2-3 days all so he can charge twice for the month
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 06:11:33 No.1167907
I mean, if they sorta thought the update was going to be last Tuesday, the update had to have been almost complete, right? Did he do nothing since then?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 07:24:43 No.1167920
>>1167907

Like I said here
>>1167798
He says that the update is almost finished when apparently it's not even close to being finished, so I think he shouldn't give specific release dates since he almost never releases them on those dates.

Edited at 2016/10/26 07:39:22
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 19:10:21 No.1168176
>>1167879

Has this actually happened before?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 20:01:45 No.1168185
>>1168176

He's been doing that since the beginning of 2016.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 20:10:00 No.1168187
The funniest (or saddest) part about all this is that there aren't even going to be new sex scenes or art for whoever this update is about, guaranteed
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 22:13:10 No.1168209
Wow! From 3600 to 3530, congrats bane! uh, wait..
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Furrynomous 2016/10/26 23:15:05 No.1168230
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Ohh might Demon of late dates and lack of communication i summon you!

Bane any news in the Jack Update? Aka Blackgate 0.52?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 00:00:26 No.1168238
>>1168209
Yeah every time this happens the pledges go down and I'm like fuck cause I want animation in the game. At this point I doubt it's ever going to happen.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 01:00:51 No.1168260
Bane just released 0.52.

Win: http://www.mediafire.com/file/sr8i29uz5u9addf/Blackgate-0.52-win.zip

Mac: http://www.mediafire.com/file/9w3lp7tae0l55dh/Blackgate-0.52-mac.zip

Linux: http://www.mediafire.com/file/9fj9qi869toez9c/Blackgate-0.52-linux.tar.bz2

Hi there Bane here,

Here's another night with Jack. I got to a place where I am not sure I want to continue moving forward because I have a few kinks to work out. No not those kinds of kinks. Kitako up to bat next.

Download the latest version on the front page!

Change Log
+ Jack night 6 & 7 & part of night 8
+ There's some hidden stuff there but don't try looking for it it'll show up soon
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 02:37:15 No.1168310
>>1168260
It's pretty late to be starting a 2.5 night affair but for Jack I'll do it!
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 02:49:59 No.1168326
Anyone one on a Mac experiencing a crash with the new update when you start it up?
>>1168260
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 02:56:45 No.1168336
>>1168310
Never mind, Night 6 is the night you had sex and Night 8 only has about 10 lines in it so this was pretty short. No sex scenes as a couple people predicted, but we find out why Jack seemed sketchy before.

Hope to see him again sometime soonish.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 03:11:29 No.1168368
I wonder why Krane's teeth are cracked on Jack's route. Did he get a fit of emo like he does on his own route? Did Helle rearrange his jaw for him on investigating the scene of the murder?

Regardless, it seems pretty clear that the PC is the piece that keeps the central plot of whatever route he's on from falling apart.

-Krane: Keeps him from trying to remove his teeth/kill himself
-Jack: ???
-Gruff: Saves his life
-Plox: Makes him realize that rebellion is a BAD IDEA
-Rotis: ???

-Alin: ???
-Helle: Perhaps prevents her from murdering her neighbor?
-Kody: Perhaps helps his & Charlie's plan come to fruition?

-Construction workers: Enables the events of the route to happen at all.

-Library: Nothing concrete yet. But as far as Vincent and the fantastic four go, the PC's involvement appears necessary to reach the Blackgate.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 03:19:22 No.1168381
>>1168336
His last update was around this time last year so it'll probably be that long of a wait before another 20 minutes of his route to read
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slothlin 2016/10/27 03:31:36 No.1168394
Saying this for the umpteenth time, but this is a beta. Bane spends just as much time on every update, there is nothing malicious in his schedule. While he does have an overall plan, he changes his mind while writing. He's writing, writing, writing, being a creative genius. Stuff gets sent out to get edited and then he might change his mind. Sometimes he's about to compile and then "oops that's not the best it could be!" Unfortunately, Bane has a bit of a habit of deciding things need all the tweaking after he tells us shit's ready. :| And thus the 2-week cycle becomes a 3-1 cycle. But there is communication, everyone is free to tweet or email or leave a comment on Patreon. It all gets read, even if the response is not immediate. And the team continues to be eternally grateful that you all care so much to comment, period. Just asking to cut us some slack while we still get our schedules lined up.

The pledges fluctuate because every time Patreon charges, cards may get declined or a pledger's info has changed. It's a pretty consistent up/down.

And yeah, something's up with the Mac DL, working on it.

Bane loves reading all your theories! See y'all in ~6 days.

Edited at 2016/10/27 03:34:40
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End of evilgelatin 2016/10/27 03:32:37 No.1168395
So jack is your official murderous sugar daddy now, we all seen that coming

He also had something to do with sooth's death(I FUCKING CALLED IT)

The constant questioning of MC's sanity and how he questions it himself can go from hilarious to somber.

Usually in other VNs, when you're on a different route you don't know what or what might not happen when the main character(isn't there) with the previous person of choice. I like that you not being in other people's routes do have an impact I.E gruff being incapacitated, Helle going missing or is dead, Krane decides to rip out his fangs.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 03:40:45 No.1168398
>>1168368

-Alin: It seems that Alin will be sobering up regardless of the MC's involvement with him, however he obviously sobers up for different reasons depending on the route. On his route he sobers up because his love for the MC gives him a reason to not drink his sorrows away anymore, while in Gruff's route for example, he is driven by a desire for revenge, as Sooth's note had stated. I imagine that Alin's character development on other routes will take a darker and angrier tone than we have seen from him thus far. He either lives for the MC or lives for revenge.

-Jack: In Jack's route, he turns down Logan's contracts and I guess "retires" as a mercenary, out of a desire to lead a semi-normal life with the MC. His route also indicates that he is aligned with Andras and city hall, which Plox states in his route as well, so I don't really see that changing in other paths. I imagine Jack will however, be very active in other routes during the rebellion, as he will likely still be on Andras' payroll.

Edited at 2016/10/27 03:46:25
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Blackgate Bane 2016/10/27 04:17:05 No.1168430
Hi there Bane here,

I know I'm not the best at everything and I don't want to make any excuses for myself. I should do better and need to do better. How else am I going to make you all very upset at the end of everything? I apologize if it's not mind blowing or on deadline. More will be coming cause it won't ever stop.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 04:51:43 No.1168454
Man, this is just a personal gripe, but I am not a fan of the whole daddy fetish. Its a real turn off for me.

But thats just my personal tastes, and otherwise I'm loving Jack's route. I just wish it could remain platonic with him.

But once again thats just my tastes, not an objective complaint.
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Vael 2016/10/27 05:05:09 No.1168456
>>1168430

Oh dear, that sound ominous... Please bane, don't take my sassy cat boy away! Let Vincent liveeee
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 08:35:16 No.1168606
>>1168394
Looking forward to the Mac DL fixing, what seemed to be the problem in the process?

Where they failing to launch when running them?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/27 20:27:01 No.1168726
>>1168260
Jack a shit, call me when 0.53 is released
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Furrynomous 2016/10/28 14:34:57 No.1169161
So those with the Android version, are you guys getting that lil error-esque message on Night 7 that's keeping you from continuing on?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/28 17:32:42 No.1169192
>>1168430

As long as Alin's okay, I'm happy.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/28 22:48:20 No.1169237
Did anyone found the "change" that Bane did in 0.52 but he said to dont look for it?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/28 23:50:39 No.1169254
>>1169237

Who says that there is any change at all? His exact words were:

"+ There's some hidden stuff there but don't try looking for it it'll show up soon"

So there's some hidden stuff. Not that existing stuff was changed or altered. Given that we're a few days off of the purported next update (Halloween), I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that this "hidden stuff" is files or pictures or something that relates to that update but isn't quite in the game or any routes as of yet. Given that he said it'll "show up soon," that's more reason to believe that it isn't properly in the game yet and will be in the next update.

Edited at 2016/10/28 23:51:31
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 06:00:57 No.1169551
If you open the file 01_07.1_Officer Jack Night 7.rpy with notepad and scroll to near the bottom, you can see some spoilers for the next Jack update.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 15:03:36 No.1169764
>>1169551
Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 15:56:34 No.1169769
>>1169551

Interesting stuff. Called it on the content lingering in the files somewhere--assuming that that's what Bane was referring to. He's probably going to re-write some of it or otherwise patch it up I suppose.

Are there any other dialogue/scenes that are sitting around not yet implemented?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 20:59:40 No.1169851
Uhh, bad news for TeamKrane guys, he appeared in Jack's route in night 7, toothless, in the station, he will probably be the one to face the deadly outsider, maybe we wont have and injured but alive Krane...
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 22:41:57 No.1169963
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 23:24:19 No.1169976
>>1169963
But, he is a bat guys, never forget, he is
hypersensitive to most things, he can even sense Mc synaptic connections or sense MC Heartrate, honestly, the odds to somone so sensitive like Krane would get hit by a punch are really low, another failure in the plot is the fact that Krane didn't felt the Outsider at all, like, He is a Fucking bat that can see better in the dark than probably everyone in Blackgate and can Hear fucking things because.. ok you probably got it... The question is, due his Bat nature, he should be ok in night 7, he would felt the outsider and wouln't be caught by surprise like he did... or did the outsider had some special power?
And if we assume that Bane is taking things that bats do irl, that he probably is, Krane should have some kind of echolocation right?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/29 23:51:30 No.1169988
Krane would be cuter if he was a fruit bat, prove me wrong
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Furrynomous 2016/10/30 01:14:05 No.1170010
>>1169988
if he was a fruit bat we wouldn't have the Sad bat boyfriend complex :|
Plus fruit bats dont have the cool nose, so Vampire bat 2 Fruit bat 0
now you prove me wrong
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Furrynomous 2016/10/30 01:41:14 No.1170014
>>1170010

He'd have a smaller dick if he was a fruit bat.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/30 01:52:51 No.1170015
>>1170014
Wow, Vampire bat 100000 and Fruit bat -10 after that haha
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Furrynomous 2016/10/30 04:13:52 No.1170114
Bane, how is the merchandise coming along?
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 01:17:33 No.1170404
So what do you all think will be included in the Halloween update? Optimistically assuming it's released on schedule.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 03:16:57 No.1170439
>>1170404
This latest update was extremely short and it was 10 days late so I wouldn't expect anything much in the past 4
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 04:38:44 No.1170474
>>1170439

Well. It has been claimed that Bane writes his shit last minute, instead of consistently over the period of a month. If this is true, then the next update could theoretically be the same amount of content, if not more just based on work rate.

Now this doesn't mean that that is true, and us rand-os don't have much insight into what's rolling around in Bane's head, or what he's doing behind the computer screen, so...grain of salt. I personally don't think the last few updates required a lot of actual time and effort to write in terms of actual content/word count. But hell, I don't code or produce a VN either, which is obviously more than just a word count.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 12:50:33 No.1170548
it wont even come out today, Slothlin said in her post here, "see you in 7 days", that was oct 25, dont rise your hopes for the update to come out today, it wont and probably wont come out tomorrow too, probably will come out next monday whit luck.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 14:54:02 No.1170567
>>1170548
It will probably come out today because there are always 2 updates per month, but it may not have a lot of content but i don't know for sure. It'll actually be the 1st here in Croatia so it wont come out on halloween here
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 17:30:53 No.1170604
>>1170548

He might release a half update for the patreon money then release the rest of the update for free in November. Though last time he did this he ended up charging us for both halves.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 20:04:25 No.1170637
Bane has been kinda shooting himself in the foot a lot lately. Here he as this great story that has slowly been dissolving and breaking apart. He constantly keeps quiet, makes promises he can't keep, has easy deadlines but he has been missing those a lot. He doesn't explain the situations he is in before the deadline he waits till after. I hope he actually puts some more effort into his project instead of just saying he will or things will crash and burn and he will become the next Jasonafex and be infamous.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 20:06:08 No.1170639
>>1170604
If you donate more it'll be made faster, Bane isn't reaching his $4000 tier right now.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 20:27:18 No.1170643
Bane is just like those guys who make animes whit 12 episodes, Like High School of the Dead, or One Punch Man... They all have a fucking great story in their hands but wont go further, i really dont know why... Blackgate has so much potential, Bane somehow made a extremly good story and he wont go deep in it, so many characters, all of then are unique and have a great potetial for deep lores... but who knows right? if he putted more effort in the updates, releasing 3-4 nighs in each im sure that he would win more money, even making less updates but every update winning more money, he could easily hit 6000 per update or more... Bane created a great environment... i really don't know why he wont put more effort in it.. He might be busy but we're talking about tons of safe money here whit the updates... but hey, Bane knows what he is doing... probably..
By the way im guessing that Crome will be next, he already has the beggining of his night 7, but the night 6 is not yet completed.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 20:32:20 No.1170646
>>1170643
Does anyone actually care about the Construction routes? It's pretty much copypasta.
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 20:51:31 No.1170647
>>1170646

I like the routes and I like the characters. But I don't really like that it's more or less in its own little bubble world where you don't interact with anyone except for your partner, Decarabia, and Alin. You can at least see intrigue between the Police and Library paths.

None of the other choices even matter, like the decision to go left or right in the caverns taking you to the same place. I suppose this might be an intentional hint that the caverns are restructuring themselves to ensure that you find the building or something. If that is the case, it is still boring (to me) and if not...then laziness.

Hell, all of the Police routes take you in different directions:

Jack: Hide out in his house, be shielded from other plots
Rotis: Involved with the Insightful
Plox: Involved with the Insightful and change the direction of their planning
Krane: Doing your own thing uninvolved in the drama safe for batboy's own drama
Gruff: Ties back to the four characters planning to "save the city."

The construction route? You're just all locked in to getting trapped on the same night and inevitably finding the old city. Like I said, this could be intentional and the route focused on lore more than character development, but it's really missing character dynamics, even if it's just an extra scene with the other construction workers every day (who aren't Decarabia.) Though the construction workers don't show up/get hinted at on any other route either (Except for an indirect reference to Crome as their lore guy by Plox during his and Rotis's route.) Which further isolates them/the plot. Longma at least shows up in the Insightful routes, while Kitako gets referenced.

Edited at 2016/10/31 20:56:20
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Furrynomous 2016/10/31 22:10:18 No.1170668
>>1170639
This is a lie
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 00:57:13 No.1170722
So the banner just changed on their patron page, could we be getting the update today?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 01:38:36 No.1170745
Yay it updated :D
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 02:18:55 No.1170755
>>1170745

Unfortunately, the single day involved in this update (Kitako night 6) doesn't actually work for me :/ get an error just as soon as the day starts.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 02:34:20 No.1170762
a one night update that is broken.

what a joke.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 03:11:53 No.1170773
Bane rushing a half assed update at the last minute for money? Who woulda thought.

Anyway go to the game folder and open up 02_06.1_Library Kitako Night 6.rpy. Change the first line from "jump LibraryKitakoNight6" to "label LibraryKitakoNight6:" without quotes, but with the semi-colon.

If this is confusing for you then just download this and drop it in the blackgate-0.53-win\game folder and overwrite.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6e96ggqmuxdnb1f/02_06.1_Library_Kitako_Night_6.rpy
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 03:34:36 No.1170787
How did you figure that out?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 03:35:33 No.1170793
>>1170773

Odd. When I try to do that change in the file (notepad format) and save, it prompts me to 'save as' in the same file and tells me 'access denied' when I go ahead and save.

Oh well. Just reading the text in notepad format suffices.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 03:37:35 No.1170800
>>1170793

Run notepad as an admin.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 03:55:09 No.1170834
>>1170787

"label WhateverNightHere:" is the command to name the file, and "jump WhateverNightHere" is the command to go to the file.

The error says "ScriptError: could not find label 'LibraryKitakoNight6'." meaning that kitako's night 6 file was either never named or there was a typo. I opened kitako's night 6 and it says "jump LibraryKitakoNight6" where it should say "label LibraryKitakoNight6:". So bane got his syntax mixed up.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 04:33:40 No.1170841
Dammit, Bane, I know you're busy but still... this update amounted to less than 100 new lines. Do you plan on releasing the rest of the update for free?

I really like the Blackgate lore, but the slow progression towards any sort of conclusion or understanding of everything that is going on is killing me. I get keeping suspense for a year or two, but this has been going on for a while now...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 05:00:55 No.1170851
tfw Bane needs da money and shits out 2 updates, the latter being sub 100 lines and broken syntax

just your typical patron month
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 05:16:52 No.1170854
I want to have more kitako and sexual thing….
Can not expect it very much?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 05:59:36 No.1170863
>>1170851

Yep. Honestly everyone donating should limit their contributions to once per month.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 06:49:57 No.1170872
Geez, kitako is fucking depressing.
I almost cried for this dope, almost.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 07:38:30 No.1170890
>>1170872
Adding to this.

I would be fine if kitako route had no sex scenes i feel like it would be better if kitako had your companionship instead of your dick.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 11:24:44 No.1170913
They announced the winner of the Blackgate Halloween contest, what does he get as a prize? If they don't have any merchandise yet they should make up for that by giving him a minor role in the game...
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Anon98127 2016/11/01 11:36:28 No.1170915
Ha! called it...he just wants that money...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 16:35:30 No.1170993
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>>1170890
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/01 17:20:34 No.1171000
>>1170913
Winner, here.

I will receive a free t-shirt of my choosing when the Blackgate Mercandise store opens.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 19:10:11 No.1171026
Does anybody know what merchandise will be avaliable for purchase, like awesome posters? I would only like to buy a poster with Eterni, he's my favorite
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Furrynomous 2016/11/01 21:43:11 No.1171058
Is there any link for the 0.53 update? Cause its still showing 0.51 on the patreon page.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 00:46:37 No.1171094
Why is this /gfur/ related when Helle is the best route?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 01:35:06 No.1171111
>>1170890
Kitako sucks you off on Day 4
Kitako a ssssssssssssslut
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 03:32:46 No.1171189
>>1171094
Not gonna lie, Helle is really the best partner in the game. She seems like the only one who is reasonable and will protect you when the Insightful come after you. I just hope Bane doesn't exclude her from having sexy time... it will be interesting to see Darkgem's take on her.
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/02 03:50:42 No.1171192
>>1171189
Helle is a pretty good route, but the main problem is that this game is geared towards the gay furry fandom than anything so no one really bats an eye to helle sadly.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 03:55:46 No.1171194
>>1171189

Pretty sure it's been stated that Helle isn't going to have any sex scenes.
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/02 04:20:25 No.1171196
>>1171194
When did bane said this? Personally i think it would be unfair if the other routes get sex scenes but not helle's
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 04:23:14 No.1171198
>>1171111

more like the thing that communicates like a child forces itself on you suddenly and it's super gross leading to a quick nope.avi
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 06:55:48 No.1171224
Of course Helle will have sex scenes. She already has nude art in the game files LOL
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 07:28:56 No.1171229
Not sure if she will have a image for the sex scene, but seeing that she has a "horny" fruit and a image of her naked in the files is pretty obvious that she will have at least some sexy time in words at least.(the text from the sex scenes)
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 13:39:11 No.1171262
>>1171224

I know this may be hard for many /gfur/ users to understand, but...

Nude =/= Sex.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 17:08:58 No.1171295
>>1171262

Yes, because they'd make nude character art of a companion in a porn novel-game-thing and not give her a sex scene.

Brilliant!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 17:44:44 No.1171313
Hey did Helle murder a dude for killing all her flowers? That's pretty cray
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 19:29:32 No.1171345
>>1171313
We should start listing characters that are NOT complete retards at this point.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 20:33:31 No.1171370
>>1171313
Yes, she did but from the hole perspective from Blackgate is like if somone had destroyed the last thing that you have to remind yourself from your past... it seems dumb but imagine how hard is to Raise plants in a full dark place..

Edited at 2016/11/02 20:34:24
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 21:43:16 No.1171394
Did the recent update work for anyone?
Just wondering.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/02 22:33:18 No.1171469
>>1171313
>>1171370

Not only that, but she has an ability to speak with plants. That's how she was able to tell that the trees in Blackgate are all fake.

Although you think the town would have appointed her as a farmer and had her farming full time to produce some food reserves for Blackgate. Or, at the very least, putting her apartment on the ground floor so the floor wouldn't leak. On her end, she could have devised a vertical farming layout so none of the water would be wasted or leaking.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/03 02:08:57 No.1171521
>>1171469
you know, i never thought about that. Her farming skills would be top tier especially if she has tauren shaman like powers to help her plants grow and such.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/03 05:14:13 No.1171726
No sun, no water. Gasps the trees are fake in Blackgate. YESSSS, I knew it! Next you guys are gonna be telling me about Blackgate is not round. It's a flat planet in the center of the universe that has 2 moons that don't move apart from themselves. So ready for No Man's part twooo.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/03 06:06:24 No.1171753
>>1171726
I think Charlie said that Blackgate is flat because if you try to escape you will "spill" and fall forever until you die of thirst or hunger. So i think flat Blackgate is correct lol
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Wrath 2016/11/03 06:23:36 No.1171755
well it is a demon realm plox said this place was his home
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Furrynomous 2016/11/03 21:08:27 No.1171953
>arsenic is a popular enough "condiment" that it's just sitting around in a salt shaker
What monsters do you think like arsenic?
I bet Rotis likes it.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/03 22:18:59 No.1171984
>>1171953
My bet is on Crome. He's the one who's shown the most alien tastes: hates sugar, but vinegar tastes sweet to him.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 04:43:03 No.1172157
>>1171984
I must not have played a new enough version to see that, but what sort of vinegar was it? Balsamic vinegar, and a few other types of vinegar, are genuinely sweet.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 06:10:15 No.1172192
Did the recent update work for anyone?
Just wondering if its working perfectly fine?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 07:41:36 No.1172205
>>1172192
Bane fixed the errors and re-uploaded the working version
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 14:55:16 No.1172252
Has Bane updated the Android link for 0.53 yet??
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 17:11:50 No.1172264
>>1172252
Nope, the android updates aren't updated very frequently by the team, one of the patrons posts android updates when a new version is released so check the comments for the android updates.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/04 18:52:31 No.1172284
SunnyDragon, yeah I've seen it. However the newest one for 0.53 isn't up yet. Latest one is the Jack update.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/06 05:14:02 No.1173080
So since Bane said he's still going to work on Kitako and we still have the month's update schedule (Construction and Gruff in that order) I guess it'll be about a month and a half before someone I'm interested in gets attention again.

If Crome is the next constuction route--well, where we left off there is the implication of sexytime. Although Eterni is the furthest behind at the moment, currently sitting at Night 5.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/06 07:17:10 No.1173106
>>1173080
I'm pretty sure that Eterni is going to be updated, because Darkgem usually posts what he's working on and I haven't seen anything yet. Mabye he is and Bane will do it just it like he did with Vincent's art. Also some characters are getting updated way more than others... I mean Gruff again?? What about Kody or Helle, it was like 20 updates ago when they were last updated.
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AnthroAquatic 2016/11/06 20:55:16 No.1173281
We didn't get a chance to post anything on Friday, so here's a bit of a mini-update:

The crew is back and rested after Furpoc, and work is resuming. Our construction friend is being written, things are being finalized for merch (you've heard that one before, right?), and I'm working hard on another editing pass of everything.

We have our monthly meeting on Thursday November 10th, where we will discuss more things moving forward.

Also, for those going to MFF, we will have a joint HTBH panel with both the Blackgate crew (including their wonderful editor) and the Echo crew. That will take place Friday 12/2 at 10:00pm (it's on the panel schedule).

Think that's everything for the moment!


Oh, and for those who are worried about routes being too similar: we're getting to a lot of fun, route-specific stuff coming up soon, so stay tuned!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/07 03:51:15 No.1173503
>>1173281

So Kitako's not getting anything added next update? His was blatantly rushed out the door cause patreon monies.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/07 05:28:51 No.1173527
>>1173503
Did you not see Jack's? It was the exact same way on top of being a week and a half late. You're not gonna see either of them again for another year.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/07 05:33:08 No.1173528
>>1173527

Did you not read Bane's update?

>Here's a quick Kitako update. It's mostly a bones update to get things coming together. It is a full night but I want to do MOOORRREEE. So more will be coming. I have so much i want to do.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/07 21:42:12 No.1173717
>>1173528
Based on what you quoted, that does not directly say that the next update is Kitako it is more of stating the status of the Kitako's content along with the other possibilities of it affecting the routes so I agree with >>1173503 and >>1173527; for a more older example take Kody's last update for example: Finally updated for X amount of time, theres is Y amount of content for that update, Implied there is more stuff, and finally left at the back burner to adjust the other routes to make the story flow overall.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/07 21:48:09 No.1173725
>>1173717

In context, what it appears to say is "This wasn't enough to satisfy me, I want to write more, so there will be more." You're right that it doesn't necessarily follow that there will be more in the immediate future as opposed to say...six months from now, but I feel confident in that the context of the update that is what he meant to communicate. Though that does beg the question of whether what he says will equate to what he actually does--which is harder to estimate.

But I will concede that he has done what you say in the past, which ties back to my last point: Disconnect between what he says and does, as it's a well known issue that he doesn't really communicate much. Or very well. Which is why a lot of fans have reason to complain.

Granted, I don't really care about Kitako, so it doesn't bother me either way. I am sad that we're not gonna see Jack for a looooong while now though. I honestly believe that his scene is some of Darkgem's best art, period. Just the angles (showing off tailhole) and depiction of his knot... <3
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Furrynomous 2016/11/08 01:47:44 No.1173791
>>1173725
>In context, what it appears to say is "This wasn't enough to satisfy me, I want to write more, so there will be more."

That's even worse, then. It's like saying "I know this update is unsatisfying, and there's a lot more I want to do with this, but I want the money so I'll just shove this update out now." If it wasn't satisfying to him, why would it be satisfying to his Patrons? The only way that would be reasonable is if he said he would include the rest of the update with the following update, but it doesn't seem like he has any intentions of doing so.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/08 03:03:48 No.1173815
>>1173791

Well, that's only if you assume that he was doing it for the money. The proper course of action would be for him to do the next update and include the rest of what he "wants" to do 100% free. It was my default assumption that that would be the case, though given that it hasn't happened yet it is certainly possible that you're right. If he shoved this skeleton out the door and doesn't intend to put meat on those bones then it is pretty much just a cashgrab.

Even if the rest of the update is with the following update, I'm not sure it'd justify even releasing this current update and profiting from it, y'know?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/08 06:43:18 No.1174037
>>1173815
Well, he did say multiple times that he doesn't actually get 3500+ dollars per update, more like 1000. And I guess Darkgem's art is expensive, sprites and backgrounds for the game are also probably paid for to be made. And he also probably has to pay the editor and other people that work on the game with him. But most of the updates we got this year were kind of small or just copy paste like Gruff, Vincent and Alin and now Kitako. But the editor did say in the small update that they are gonna work on more route specific things so fingers crossed that that's gonna be sooner rather than later.

Edited at 2016/11/08 06:46:06
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Furrynomous 2016/11/10 00:33:36 No.1175111
>>1111774

Need more of this...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/10 21:07:08 No.1175455
just played the Plox/Leraje story line. he looks hot as hell but his personality sucks. i hope for him to be fisted hard in the near future >.>
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Furrynomous 2016/11/10 22:09:16 No.1175489
>>1175455
Yea, his personality makes him one of my least favorite characters.

Also does anybody else feel like the MC is crazy, like he just accepts whatever somebody tells him or says the weirdest crap that I don't think any human would say in any situation.

Most monsters belive that humans are evil...ok, but why doesn't he try to prove that humans aren't all that bad, like when Rotis talks about Earth, the MC is just like whatever you say, why doesn't he try to explain anything? Does he want to be feared or something.

I'm just saying that i think something is wrong with the MC, i understand that his life changed very quickly but really?

Somebody was saying something about psychology in previous posts about this and that the MC is a perfect example if something like this would happen but i dont think so.

If you somehow ended up in Blackgate where monsters want to get rid of you because they belive your gonna kill them would you really be like whatever you say, or would you try to explain and prove that you are actualy good?

Edited at 2016/11/10 22:10:20
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 02:30:57 No.1175581
>>1175489
I wish it wasn't extremely fucking rare for the MC of a gay furry VN to not be a loser, Blackgate isn't Morenatsu tier in terms of that but it's still pretty bad.
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Wulfy 2016/11/11 02:32:10 No.1175583
>>1175489
The odds of shock are insanely high, and the soft adaptation is a more common response to immediately explaining everything away.

My point is that psychologically, the MC is a great representation of an approximation of how a human would react. The slow observation to formulate a plan. Humans are fucking HORRIBLE at fixing sudden problems, or an unexpected one. Which is why we often think of the perfect come back after the argument is over. However, we're pretty great at slow moving problems.

I think the MC is a good psychological example because when he's getting bashed for being humans who are horrible, his mind switches to thinking about war and the horrors of humanity, which is why the MC stumbles and just can't articulate a counter point. He knows, as an average person would, that humanity has a lot of shit in its past, and hell, even the present.

However, when it's a small focused neutral ordeal, he handles it pretty well. Explaining chess, for example.

I could be wrong, but the only time he seems to react quickly instead of paralyzing is when it's plot convenient (which is because the human injects some new way of thinking) or when he's angry and does something (anything?) to change how things are going (helping Gruff, pulling gun on Gryz, etc.)
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 02:34:30 No.1175584
>>1175489
I do agree that MC(Brian) takes this all in way too easily, at first i thought it more or less denial and he's stuck in a coma or something like that. Any other person would put on a brave face for a couple of days to weeks, then break down and either end it there or get a new found will to live and adapt. MC has shown none of that so far.

Also the way how he just accepts what ever they tell him in most routes kinda ticks me off as well

"Vincent totally threatened my life when i was at my weakest now he's all lovey dove the next day. honestly any other person would deck him in the face, but since im a fucking door mat; I'll give him what he wants."

"Laraje is using me to further his very questionable goals of making blackgate a "Better place" and even admits to using me and the people he rallied. Better still follow him so he can fulfill his plans and then throw me away soon after"

"I saw Jack chop off a man's arm, lets not stop him at all. Hey, i found letters filled with money to have jack kill me. I'm just gonna eat up what ever excuse he tells me because dog dad wouldn't hurt his twink, would he? I call him daddy all the time so i guess not."

The only realistic reactions i remember MC having was on night 5 of gruff when MC had a mini melt down about the attack and weather or not gruff is in on it. Poor boar man was a bit overwhealmed with the whole ordeal himself.

The part when he talked down the mob from killing him and krane is also a a bit realistic as well
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 13:23:53 No.1175706
the only story line that i liked so far is Chrome's. there are good character reactions, and Chrome seems like a nice guy. o, and i must point that Eterni's story line seems like a retarded version of Chrome's. it should be changed.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/11 15:00:28 No.1175716
>>1175706
>Eterni
>Retarded

Take that back and atone, you heathen!
Joking aside, overall i prefer Mr. Fluffydrake, at least he didn't drag MC in an alley to shove some weird instrument ulin his face. He seems the most sensible and stable hasubando, overall.
Crome is good too, but sometimes he goes a little too debby-the-fabulous for me.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 15:30:16 No.1175719
>>1175716
but dont you think that Eterni's story is just too similar to Crome's? without mentioning the same q/a part, Eterni even act the same as Crome only cruder.
i dont know. maybe i feel like that only because i played Crome's part before Eterni's.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 15:40:30 No.1175721
>>1175719
Eterni is my presonal favorite, and i really like his route.
The Q&A part is a bug that has been there forever.
The construction routes are all similar but Eterni's is in my opinion the most different.
He's the only character (i think) that actualy reads about hypoxia to help you after night 5, also what do you think he ment by "reward" in the locker after the encounter on night 4?
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/11 17:05:11 No.1175730
>>1175721
Sexy tiemz?
It would be hilarious considering how awkward his tribal hug-thingy scene was. Also, he seems the most reassuring guy: straightforward, sensible, rational. Hopefully he doesn't have a freaky side like Jack.a ybe he'll turn out to be more sentimental than he likes to show. <3
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Furrynomous 2016/11/11 18:01:16 No.1175746
>>1175730

Jack's scene without as much freaky =

>>1153643

I'd much prefer the freaky to seeing that face, honestly. *shudders*

Edited at 2016/11/11 18:01:45
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 06:33:34 No.1175968
Oh dear, in the latest Friday update apparently Darkgem ( CG artist ) and Mr.E ( sprite artist ) are gone for some personal time and Bane is looking for new artists. Hopefully they won't be gone for too long or leave completely.

But about the new artist... I don't know what they are looking for but for the sprite artist I think Feralise would be amazing, she draws awesome males, and they look kinda similar to the current sprites but for the CG artist I don't know who I would recommend, Null-ghost is already doing CG scenes for Kemocoliseum... another furry game.

Null-ghost's art is very comparable to Darkgem's, Darkgem's looks very realistic and in my opinion fits perfectly in blackgate so I don't know who else I would recommend.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 08:11:59 No.1175998
>>1175968

RIP Blackgate

>Mr. E
Not that this matters at all. It's not like we've really gotten any new sprites in the past year.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/12 08:28:41 No.1176006
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>>1175968
>Darkgem on hiatus
>mfw

Sigh. Maybe K0suna? They did a pretty good piece of Eterni as fanart, and have a good sense of lighting and colouring skills
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 09:44:09 No.1176014
>>1176006
They have good art but i think that that style doesn't really fit in Blackgate, there are a lot of very good artists but suddenly changing from realistic to ridiculous doesn't really fit.

Look at Echo, they have an amazing horror visual novel that had ridiculous looking sprites that don't really fit in a horror novel, the current ones are okay but they were planning to have cartoony sprites.

Mabye Wildering or tacklebox since they are also kinda little similar to current art in game...

Hopefuly Darkgem and Mr.E won't be gone for too long...

Edited at 2016/11/12 09:49:17
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Wrath 2016/11/12 12:16:12 No.1176027
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Nothingness_Manipulation

good chance this is what the mc can do
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 12:20:47 No.1176028
>>1176027
Maybe that's why mc has ties to the Eternal
They're antithetical
And maybe why mc doesn't feel much
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/12 13:52:11 No.1176036
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>>1176027
So MC is basically Exdeath?
That's actually kinda cool.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/12 14:01:48 No.1176037
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My apologies for double-posting, but I can only post one image at a time >_>

As for >>1176014
I think K0suna is capable of fitting the style enough. Look at this hottie. LOOK AT HIM! @_@

Ahem.

Although, probably the best thing would be to either wait for Darkgem to resume his work on Blackgate or for himm to decide to still dedicate some time to it.
I doubt patrons will like this turn of events; can't have much of a visual novel without visuals, hmm?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 14:34:09 No.1176056
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>>1176037
Lol i didn't say it's bad just that it doesn't really fit the current artstyle, also his face is kinda weird but ok. The original Eterni is my favorite. Also i spent 30 min trying to get MS Paint to listen to me... Edit: it looks like crap...

I can survive without sexy CG's for a while it's just i hope he doesn't leave forever.

Edited at 2016/11/12 14:35:01
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/12 15:12:49 No.1176063
>>1176056

But Darkgem isn't doing the sprites, I was talking about the CGS. Sprites are mostly there, they are just lacking different clothing and espressions; those are from Mr. E.
If you compare, K0suna's work with Darkgem's CGs the difference less noticeable.
Heck, Tanraak would do well too, just to say another one, have a look at his gallery and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm just saying the styles and quality levels are comparable: they have a good sense of anatomy and put much effort into lighting and shading.

I can't think of many alternative artists for the sprites, though, mostly because the difference there would be constantly under your eyes. Say you have smiling Malo from one artist, and sad Malo from another one? Terrible.

CGs, on the other hand are more standalone, if you get my meaning. As long as the pictures concerning a certain scene (and so far most scenes contained only one) are from the same artist, I suppose you COULD have more than one.

Now if you'll excuse me I'll go back to my corner to cry ;_;
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 16:33:28 No.1176112
>>1176063
I know he doesn't draw the sprites i was just comparing the two.

I'm familiar with Tanraak's work and i would agree that it could work, i guess artists could try to make it look realistic.

Like Darkgem, he draws realistic looking CG's for Blackgate but also draws ridiculous looking art for someone else, i guess K0suna could do that as well.

I just want the best for Blackgate...

Edit: Bane said on Twitter that they are looking for artists who have very similar looks/style, so i guess it won't change very much than what it is now.

Edited at 2016/11/12 19:17:22
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 19:06:39 No.1176172
Why the hell would BOTH artists be bailing at the exact same time? This isn't a good look for the project at all.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 19:20:09 No.1176177
>>1176172
They didn't say they were bailing, just that they are taking some time off.
But if they are looking for new artists in the meantime i guess they are gone for more than just a few weeks???
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 19:34:49 No.1176180
If new artists are brought in, I hope its just for characters that don't have CGI scenes yet, and characters who've art already remain solely from the original CGI artist.

Can't really imagine someone doing Jack, Plox/Leraje or Gruff as top notch as Blackgem's stuff.

Krane is good, though the radical style difference between his two scenes should be an example of how jarring things can be. I know that Blackgem is responsible for both but it definitely -feels- like two different artists did it, haha.

New art should just be for one of the Construction workers, Kody if he gets a scene, Kitako or Longma.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/12 21:13:49 No.1176201
>>1176172
They're just taking time to work on personal stuff, that's bound to happen when working with freelancers instead of contractors, not that this type of project could have been managed with contracts, since the lead times are not defined and the income is not regular, so you can't actually pay wages to the artists.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/12 23:48:26 No.1176230
well, these patron games are being developed really slow.
when did the develop of this game start? about 4 years ago? its no wonder that the artists leave.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/13 10:56:26 No.1176944
>>1176230
I don't see why they would care: as long as the project is ongoing it means they are likely to be commisioned further pieces. Since Darkgem is NOT involved with the development, it's not like his reputation suffers from the delays.
My guess instead is that he thought something like "Well, since the updates are sporadic and I don't get commissioned new scenes that frequently, I guess it won't really hurt if I take a few months for personal stuff".

Edited at 2016/11/13 10:57:18
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 12:34:09 No.1176974
I guess that spelunkersal could fit in the CG artist, Narse is a good choise too, but Alpha0 Is also a great artist!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 15:25:14 No.1177021
I think it's a loooooong shot, but Kaji would be really awesome as the new artist.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 19:39:58 No.1177121
>>1176974
>>1177021
On Blackgate's Twitter

>We're looking find people with similar styles/looks.

So i guess Alpha0 and Kaji have a higher chance to be accepted.
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/13 21:30:03 No.1177149
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>>1177121
If Darkgem decides to bail out i can definately see Alpha0 or NullGhost filling his place, but whp is this kaji person? Can i get a link to their FA or tumblr?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 21:45:10 No.1177153
I just realized something possibly very sad... do you think that big explosion you hear/feel/see on night 8 is poor Kitako?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 21:47:05 No.1177154
>>1177149
Kaji does very high quality work, but his volume is very low.

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/kaji

http://i.imgur.com/9exH7Zf.jpg
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 21:48:56 No.1177156
>>1177149
Alpha0 and NullGhost are working on their own projects so I doubt the would jump on this project.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/13 21:58:17 No.1177159
>>1177149
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kaji

The chance of getting him is pretty slim though.
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Blackgate Bane 2016/11/14 00:31:13 No.1177241
Hi there Bane here,

>>1176230
It's been under development for 2 years.

I will reach out to the suggested artists and see if they can do some scenes. Darkgem is not gone for good, he's just on hiatus for a bit. He'll return in due time (i have a projected time frame). I've reached out to veramundis and Darkgem is reaching out to someone as well. The work that's going to be done isn't explicit. I'm not looking for sex scenes but more illustrations of important scenes and action sequences. If you have any other suggestions for artists that are similar in style to Blackgate's A E S T H E T I C please let me know here or on patreon.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 01:40:03 No.1177253
>>1177241
I think Nimrais and ForgeWielder would be good for the project.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 03:19:47 No.1177316
>>1177241
Some Japanese kemono artists kudasai.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 04:38:15 No.1177342
Please tell me there's already another Gruff sex scene pic completed >.>
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 04:46:11 No.1177344
>>1177342

Nah, please tell me there'll be a Gruff sex scene where he's the correct size instead of suddenly dropping a couple hundred pounds and his belly to scale with the protagonist :P
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 07:33:23 No.1177396
>>1177344
Not sure if you're not into chubby men or the sex scene with gruff has a problem with it?
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/14 07:43:20 No.1177399
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>>1177342
Not sure if gruff would be the type of person who crave sex 24/7 like a certain wolf. Also he doesn't need one at the moment especially what he's going through(with the allergic reaction and such). Lets not forget that other characters didn't get their sex scenes (Malo, Helle, Longma, Kitako, the dragons no one really cares about).

Plus i really want Gruff's update to tackle some issues about his side of why the hell does his father hates him so much(From what jack told us, it seems pretty damn onesided) Also Since you can't really eat anywhere else due to gruff being poisoned i think MC will start cooking for gruff and himself(BANE PLEASE!)
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 12:30:48 No.1177465
>>1177241
OK so: Null-ghost, Wildering, Feralise ( for sprites), tacklebox, Tanraak, K0suna, Kaji, Nimrais.

I would also add Koul, Zaush and Wolfy-nail ( I don't know is he is still doing art), Pacelic and demicoeur.

There are more excellent artists but these are the few I know.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 15:06:44 No.1177483
I always thought "hah those autismos and their waifu/husbando games" but yesterday i gave it a shot and downloaded Blackgate. Damn i dont know the last time i busted a nut this often. Beeing "in" the story actually makes my dick get pretty hard. I need to restrain myself till the full game comes out the missing sprites and the sudden to be continued sucks. But damn there are so many good husbandos how can i not play this? The krane shower scene damn i fapped 15 minutes before that and yet i needed to fap again seeing that greedy bat face looking at me.

Also of all the characters in the game why do they make plox your partner? I mean his ultimate form (forgot the name" is sexy as hell, but his normal form is just wayyyy to human to be sexy.

For maximum nut busting would you rather advice me to wait until full release or just get every update?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 15:34:27 No.1177488
>>1177396

Nothing wrong with Gruff's scene, per se. Just pointed out that there's a very obvious discrepency between Gruff's actual size and the size he's depicted as being in his CGI art for the sex scene. He's down to scale with the human in it, as opposed to being the big guy his sprite depicts and moreover what his background art shows at the very beginning of the game when he's arresting you.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 16:10:19 No.1177493
>>1177483
You can get a different police partner if you choose different music in the begining and not every update contains sexy times.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 17:06:19 No.1177505
>>1177493
thanks for telling me, that surely will amke my dick fall off from fapping when im trough all stations.

And secondly the thing why i dont wanna play every update is the story interests me. I dont wanna play because i wanna play it the way i would likely react in a full playtrough and not spoil different parts of the game before release. But then again i wanna fap my way trough all the possible storys. It would be cool to know an estimated finish date.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 18:18:11 No.1177521
>>1177505
Well... we don't know when the game will be completed, there are multiple choices in the game that don't do anything, like how you feel at the end of night 1, the choices don't mean anything, or when you chose where you want to go on police routes, you can choose to go to the library but the game will still act like you went with your partner so it doesn't mean anything.

Bane said that the game has been in production for 2 years now and still some of the routes aren't at the halfway mark i think ( the images in the game folder only go to night 13 and night 14 was removed ), so if you don't wanna read every update you can look at the art and music in Blackgate > game folder so you can fap even more :)

Edited at 2016/11/14 18:22:29
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/14 23:12:19 No.1177645
>>1177521
It sucks that a good amount of the choices from day 1 to day 5 are blocked out, and honestly should have been filled in by now. Which is disappointing.

I would love to see you convince Vincent not to slit Rotis's throat from ear to ear. Or talking about the attack on night 5 with gruff, rejecting to get cuddly with im on night 6 might also lead to an interesting convo. The choices in VNs is what makes them fun, have 1 or 2 choices available when you see 3 or 4 of them lined up saddens me...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 23:22:05 No.1177649
>>1177645
Yep, the Vincent and Rotis scene is very annoying since you can't stop Vincent, hopefully we'll be able to stop him in a later update, if not then why even put the choice there.

Speaking of choices in VNs, i really like how Great Troubles did the chioces, to get the perfect ending i had to replay the game multiple times to get it right and i'm still missing one ending that i can't figure out.
Something like this should be put in Blackgate instead of just clicking random choices and you still get the exact same ending like Krane's. I'm hoping that later we will be able to stop something like that from happening not just to him, but also other characters.

Also, i was recently looking through the game files and i don't know if thats just how renpy works but there are stats and such, mabye Bane had more things planed or something but is still writing the story, i don't know.

># Player Stats

$ Player_str = 0
$ Player_dex = 0
$ Player_int = 0

$ Player_money = 0

# Character Variables

$ Gruff_love = 0
$ Jack_love = 0
$ Vekk_love = 0
$ Plox_love = 0
$ Alin_love = 0
$ Krane_love = 0
$ Rotis_love = 0

Mabye love will determine the ending we will get, the nicer you are to them the better the ending...

And there's also this:
>## Alin ##
## I'm gonna open a six pack of whoops ass on ya.
## Knowing you, wouldn't it be a twelve pack?

Edited at 2016/11/14 23:36:23
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End of Evilgelatin 2016/11/14 23:57:19 No.1177665
>>1177649

Not sure how player stats is gonna effect the game, but a points system based on who you're with is pretty cool. It makes you wanna explore every choice possible. But the problem is that for the point system to work in blackgate there has to be more choices layed out for the player(which currently isn't available right now). I know there is another VN that does the point system pretty well(Extracurricular Activities) which is currently in the works. Certain choices lead to certain evens unfolding and what you choose might strengthen or weaken your bond with the lover of your choice.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/14 23:57:42 No.1177666
>>1177645

To be fair, there isn't a single meaningful choice in the entire game at present other than towards the end of Krane's current route with his teeth situation, obviously not counting the weirdly random ways you get your partner in every route except the Bar.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/15 00:19:20 No.1177670
>>1177666
Yep, Majority of the choices in BG are for fluff sadly...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/15 01:31:58 No.1177689
By far my least favorite part of the game are the meaningless choices you get at the end of the first few days while at home and in the morning. I understand that it's probably relating to immersion (And I'd be glad to be wrong if this later turns out to be more significant!) but on subsequent plays I just think to myself "yeah whatever" and pick the first thing through.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/15 14:29:57 No.1177926
>>1177521
Played the rotis route as far as it goes and its definetifly the one i consider the "me" way im not gonna play any updtes on him until the full release and then im gonna start new and do one full playtrough my way. I really consider to pledge some money on patreon i really wanna see stuff animated. Just the "per demo" thing is somewhat strange for me could'nt bane just pump out 10 demos with little updates in one month and cash in?
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/15 15:49:34 No.1177946
>>1177926
Brace for incoming shitstorm!

Joking aside, since you seem new to the project I'll try to give you a fair idea of the situation:

Basically, some poeople feel that's what happens; to be more specific, sometimes we get two updates near the end of the month in a very short time frame.
There are people who feel cheated by this. However, I don't remember ever seeing more than 2updates in a month, so basically you know how much you are going to spend each month anyway.

Without casting any judgment, I must say that the update schedule is somewhat inconsistent.
I'm just telling you so you won't get mad afterwards.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/15 17:55:23 No.1177964
>>1177926

You can limit the amount of pledges you'll pay for by month. I'd seriously recommend limiting it to one since Bane has a habit of rushing half assed updates for money as well as charging for stuff he said he wasn't going to (build 0.42a for example).
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Furrynomous 2016/11/15 19:17:52 No.1178001
Wow i cant believe that Krane storyline and cliffhanger, i would have forced his teeth onto my neck to hinder the last scene from happening. Its been a long time that a game got me sad :,(

Another thing is that since i played different storylines now i need to think about multiverse stuff and the butterfly effect, how a change of perception makes a character look good or bad. Its quite interesting since im a psychonaut for a year now and often get deeper thought about how unimportant my decisions in life mostly are as all of them will lead me to certain death anyway. Since i took psychedelics i just learned to love life and just do what you really feel. I know this is quite off topic but a game like blackgate with multiple outcomes, yet no alternation of "faith" remind me somewhat of the game of life.

Edited at 2016/11/15 19:28:35
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Furrynomous 2016/11/16 04:03:35 No.1178183
>>1177649

Which game files specifically did you find this in?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/16 08:40:05 No.1178246
>>1178183
Blackgate > game > scripts.rpy i think and just scroll down till you find it, you can use notepad but I would recommend something like sublime text 3 ( it's free )
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Furrynomous 2016/11/16 21:11:40 No.1178382
>>1177649
Well its possible we will be able to stop Rotis later since thats a grayed out option, but I get the feeling its gonna be more every path is gonna have unavoidable deaths of other characters.

And I get the feeling those values might be from an older version of the game since how often does the game give you the opportunity to even hang out with people outside your path.

I mean it might be relevant with the library and bar since you aren't locked into a path from the very start, but I doubt itll matter with the police or construction crew.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 00:13:18 No.1178444
Does anyone know if Bane minds if fanart is done of his characters? I've seen some online but dunno how he specifically feels about it.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 01:35:04 No.1178468
>>1178444
I dont think that he minds, he already made a hallowen contest... anyways, i never find fanarfs... can you post some of those here?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 03:15:37 No.1178497
>>1178444
He held a halloween fan art contest, the winner was someone who drew gruff as rocksteady and Brian as Bebop
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Wrath 2016/11/17 04:02:23 No.1178512
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he likes fan art these are the only good ones i know of
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Wrath 2016/11/17 04:02:24 No.1178513
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>>1178512
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 04:17:59 No.1178514
>>1178512
I seriously doubt it.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 04:39:40 No.1178519
>>1178514

And why is that?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 13:20:53 No.1178613
>>1178519
darkgoose or whatever his name is hasn't improved at all since he started drawing.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 20:49:50 No.1178696
>>1178613
Darkgem? To be honest there is not a lot room to improve. Guy is one of the few furry artists drawing on a near professional level.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/17 21:09:40 No.1178706
>>1178613
If you're talking about darkgem, i don't think he has room for improvement. The guy is on professional levels of work and i'm pretty sure alot of people would agree that he's at his peak interms of improvement.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 04:06:14 No.1178822
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>>1178706

He could definitely learn how draw fur.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 05:11:25 No.1178843
>>1178696
>>1178706

Darkgoose, aka "Dream and Nightmare," is another artist on FA. On top of having not one but TWO utterly ridiculous screen names, he hasn't advanced in skill as an artist in... ever?

His backgrounds are actually fuckballs amazing, but his characters are cartoonishly out of place. He pretty much only ever draws them in 1/4 or 3/4 profile. And there's almost always at least ONE of them looking to camera. They often look contorted or disproportional because of the angles they're drawn at in action poses, while his drawings of characters in idle poses look stiff and unnatural.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 05:26:31 No.1178899
>>1178822
You're right. Many furry artists cannot draw fur or hair well.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 05:31:13 No.1178903
He does Jack's fur pretty well. But yeah, it's pretty egregious that a lot of furry artists do fur like it's just a different color skin.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 06:00:32 No.1178906
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>>1178822
I don't really see a problem with the fur. You may lose the texture in some places but at least he is not on JMGN or MilesDF shitty latex levels.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 15:56:11 No.1179024
>>1178843
Darkgoose and DreamAndNightmare are 2 entirely different people.
And it baffles me you think they're the same guy given the fact their styles are completely different.

Edited at 2016/11/18 15:56:40
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 18:27:37 No.1179070
Just played the Jack route, it is so worng. Well now i got a Dilf fetish thanks for that btw. Undertail gave me a Milf fetish now this one gave me the Dilf, i maybe should stop playing games with furries in it... or maybe i should play all of them.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 20:05:00 No.1179134
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>>1179070
I think it's time for you to stop, also how many routes have you played and who is your favorite so far.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 20:12:22 No.1179137
>>1178906

A bit of both, honestly. I believe Darkgem does fur pretty well, but not perfect. There's room for improvement--because there'll always be something an artist can make better.

Though to be fair, the cock looks kinda latex in that picture, haha
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 21:06:52 No.1179169
>>1179137
When you put it like that, yeah there is room for improvement. But i feel like DG is almost as his peak in terms of skill and improvement.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/18 21:13:06 No.1179172
>>1179134

All police routes now, Jack needs to be completed tough, im the night/day after the sex.

Rotis and Krane are defintifly my favs. i wont play them any further until the final release of the game as i want to fullty experience them from start to finish wihtout missing sprites or possibilitys and stuff.

I played Rotis first and thought that he's a really nice guy and first was like this is the route i pick for me, but after playing krane i feel like krane needs the player character. If the pc doesnt take the krane route he will just fall deeper into the abyss, rotis can handle himself hes strong.

Spoiler dont read for anyone who didnt finish krane route. I could accewpt that the pc in the game is an alternative ego, so maybe in this version of me i cant shoot as good or drink coffee even tough i dont in reality, but never ever would any of my alternative egos ever leave my fallen buddy on the ground to run. I was completly like "bullshit" when the only option was to run. I would rather die than leave him behind. And on the death scene i would have forced his teeth onto my neck. Its only a visual novel yeah but that last scene really cut a hole into my hearth, the worst thing is that i dont get closure. If it would at least be finished i i would knew how it all ends ok. But with the "welp hes ded thanks for playing also the city is on fire lol" cliffhanger it really holds onto me like a demon and i cant let go i hope the full release doesnt take thaaat long.

So yeah krane aboloutly best husbando. 10/10 would kill myself romeo and juliet style.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 01:11:27 No.1179246
>>1179172
I totally agree whit you man, Krane best husbando, definitively would rather be dead than be whitout him :(
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 01:21:13 No.1179250
>>1179172
Krane is one of my top 3, Gruff takes number 1
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 02:05:59 No.1179255
Ugh. Gruff and Krane are lame. Leraje is king.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 05:31:42 No.1179300
>>1179255
eww someone caught the fuccboi-itis, get away from me you might be contagious.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 12:13:49 No.1179410
>>1179300
You're one to talk, such thinking is more disgusting and contagious that it should be isolated, you need to be LOL

Leraje looks way better than Rotis anyway, though Gruff and him are equally awesome...and still both better than Rotis XP
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 16:09:16 No.1179461
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/19 17:11:14 No.1179472
>>1179410
>LOL
>XP

Fuccboi confirmed, Dr. Bookwyrm approves anon's diagnosis.

Edited at 2016/12/01 08:08:56
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 17:26:34 No.1179476
>>1179410
Just go ahead and get your boipussy (i)mpregnated, fuccboi.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 17:36:47 No.1179484
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let the drama begin!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 17:48:51 No.1179495
So are they still doing a stream tonight?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/19 17:51:36 No.1179497
>>1179472

Probably the only opinion worth even less than a random internet anon's.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 04:57:37 No.1179721
>>1179495
Welp, yet another thing that the Blackgate team totally forgot about... why do they bother to get us excited about stuff if they don't even deliver?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 05:54:06 No.1179740
>>1179721

More likely that they just didn't communicate about it than that they forgot.

Y'know, the thing that's been a problem for basically the entire production.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 08:12:14 No.1179760
>>1179721
>>1179740

I didnt get an update on my Patreon about a stream, they must have flat out forgotten to link it...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 18:09:02 No.1179832
no friday update again either and its now nov 20 with no first update

who is ready for another 1 week double update
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 18:18:24 No.1179834
>>1179832

I'm ready for two more bare bones one day updates!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/20 23:25:05 No.1179916
>>1179476
lol having Leraje as a top is a total waste! he is a deam bottom!!
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 00:24:00 No.1179938
>>1179834
Yeah Jack's being so short really crushed me after that wait.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 02:26:21 No.1180004
>>1179938

I was fine with the wait, honestly. But then we got an update that implied that there'd be a lot more to it than the typical build. Being a Jack fan it got me pretty excited.

>>1164969
>More content than expected

The update didn't actually come until like five days after even that. And it wasn't really much more than usual! That was what sucked, haha
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 03:32:43 No.1180015
There's an update on the Twitter account:

>So a change of plans, upcoming update will be starring Rotis. @MyTrueBane got a burst of inspiration and doesn't want to let it go!

>And tentative plans for a live stream on Wednesday, will get confirmation and specific time on Tuesday. 🤙
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 04:07:22 No.1180025
>>1180015
Best news! Rotis is bae
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 04:34:13 No.1180032
>>1180015
Oh come on, the one time I was excited about the new update and it's not gonna happen. Then I guess it would be fair if the second November update is construction and Gruff is the first December update. I mean, what is he gonna do with all the written construction content, just let it sit for a year and then post it, that would be stupid. And how long is the Rotis update gonna be long, if he's gonna do the same thing and post 2 updates very close to each other he doesn't have a lot of time to write it.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 04:35:54 No.1180033
Hope Rotis stops teasing everyone with that longass tongue and gives the MC a rimjob already.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 06:25:40 No.1180064
>>1180015
So this means either gruff or the construction crew got shafted out of their update. I'll put my bet on the construction crew as they were supposed to be the first update for november then gruff.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 08:42:08 No.1180080
>>1180064
Oh no. The sparkle dragons will have to wait.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 09:35:57 No.1180089
>>1180080
agreed, malo is the only reason why i even choose the construction route.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 10:03:39 No.1180106
>>1180080
But I don't understand, can't he release both construction and Rotis update in one... he was already writing the construction update two weeks ago, can't he write the inspiration then finish the construction?

Unless he deleted the construction update he wrote in order to do Rotis, I know it sounds silly but you never know with Bane.

Edited at 2016/11/21 10:05:55
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 10:25:41 No.1180115
>>1180106
Ou you poor naive soul... do you really think that Bane writes the updates whit the 2 weeks that he has? Obviously he dont do that, or eles the updates should be much longer that they are.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 12:31:23 No.1180134
>>1180080
The funniest part is that the construction route are characters from the highest paying patreons... Bane's pretty lucky that they're patient.

Besides, I don't care much for Crome but Eterni has an interesting personality. He seems very confident. I wonder how his personality will change when stressed, though...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 13:24:06 No.1180143
>>1180089
Yep. He's the least cringey of the "reward" characters. 99% of the time it's a bad design choice to let furries put their own characters into games. Look at "So Sorry" in Undertale.

I only picked Malo at first because I had done everyone else's routes and I felt I should at least try one construction route and I dig his bionic arm.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 13:53:43 No.1180150
>>1180115
Lol I mentioned that I a previous post that I can't find, but the editor ( I think ) mentioned that construction update was being written 2 weeks ago in a Friday update.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/21 17:02:35 No.1180250
>>1180143
What makes the other two cringey?
Eterni has one of the most reassuring personalities in the cast. I don't think his design is so off from the rest of the characters.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 17:35:00 No.1180276
>>1180250

Honestly, they're all kind of cringey. The character designs try too hard to be special and unique, not unlike your average self-insert OC. They're all pretty awkwardly present in the story and contribute very little moreover, but that part isn't the patrons' fault and is more a product of their isolation from the overarching narrative. They do seem to get the so-sorry treatment from Undertale in that regard at least.

Malo with his fire powers (albeit rather minor in context), bionic arm and by-blow presence in the story. He's also got an arbitrary sob-story background (The Berenstein bear story) that's hard to take seriously at all.

Crome is the archetype of a Dragon OC reflection, with, of course, another tragic backstory (having had his wings forcibly and painfully removed) some minor presence with the Insightful yet barely worth note or mention.

Eterni is something of a snowflake himself in design and personality, but I admit that he seems like he fits in the most fluidly of the three. We also learn the most in the first few days from him, since he demands more answers from Decarabia than the others. Unfortunately, we don't have a Day 6 for him yet to see a whole lot of his unique content though.

Compare all of them with say, Alin, Gruff or Plox who have interweaving roles in the plot and backstory of Blackgate. None of them feel the need to wax on about their tragic backstories specifically (Alin's is actually relevant to the story and mentioned on routes other than his own) and we can gleam details from those stories that are relevant to the narrative going forward rather than just providing context for behavior. They also seem more "real" as opposed to having a shoe-horned in relationship with the MC.

Construction workers all abruptly get over apprehension and run up at the end of the day to say "Hey, pick meeeeee!" and boom, you're partners.

Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to bitch, but there definitely feels like a qualitative difference between Bane's characters and the top-dollar rewards. I knew right away when I started playing their routes that they were the reward-characters by virtue of how stark the difference between them and the others were (Though granted, I wondered this about Kitako too). Construction Routes will have an important part in the story as we see in Malo's current ending, but that it is relatively self-contained is pretty boring.

Edited at 2016/11/21 17:53:19
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 17:56:08 No.1180285
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God-tier husbandos:
>Alin
>Kitako
>Krane

'Decent' mid-tier husbandos:
>Jack

Low-tier husbandos:
>Gruff
>Helle (fuck off, waifufags)
>Kody

Shit-tier:
>Any of the donut steels from the Construction Route
>Longma
>Plox/Leraje
>Rotis
>Vekk
>Vincent

You have to have the worst taste to pick anyone in the shit-tier category. Also, this is a definitive list, so don't bother with your bitching.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 18:01:40 No.1180288
>>1180285
>God Tier: Kitako
>Laughs self into a coma
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 18:07:40 No.1180291
>>1180276
Yes! That's the perfect way to put it. They try too hard to be unique. I also find that they seem to have few character flaws (compared to the other monsters) and end up seeming like Mary Sue's, alienating the player rather than drawing you in.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/21 18:15:19 No.1180293
>>1180291

That's a good point. All three of them primarily focus on giving you reasons to like or to trust them.

You get a reason to distrust just about all of the Police Officers every other scene. Vincent is abrasive most of his appearances, Longma has that double-agent shadiness, Kitako is...Kitako, and the Bar routes' character flaws are visible from the get-go.

Not to say that the CWs are flawless (Malo is pretty whiny, Crome is pretty shady and greedy, Eterni is kinda alien) but nothing really comes of it so far in the story. All of their current days will happen the same way no matter what with binary choices unaffected by the characers' personalities.

Honestly, the first step to making them more distinguishable from each other would be if we went on on each of their levels of the mineshaft on the first or second day, instead of immediately heading down to level F or whatever as the MC is given clearance for.

Edited at 2016/11/21 18:22:10
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 07:46:41 No.1180558
>>1180285
>Kitako
>God tier
>Vincent
>Shit tier

You avin a giggle m8?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 15:06:36 No.1180663
What i really would appreciaty is if you could ask why everyone in this town is either gay or bi. I mean even if homophobia isnt a thing in their cultures you still come from earth in this game isnt that something you could at least ask?

It really puts me off in some games that they pretend everyone is ok what you do no matter what time that game is. You know in skyrim the nords dont even let kahjit into their lands yet, if you pick a kahjit you can freely roam, marry a same sex argonaian, get a house in one of their citys, fuck the shit out of each others (we all know what the lovers comfort buff means) adopt a child and nobody gives a fuck. It would really higher the roleplay experience if you have it harder as a gay, if there would be extra quests where you need to win peoples hearts and show them its ok to be gay or just rip out their hearts and show them even though youre a bottom, they better dont fuck with you.

Well bg is obviously a gay vn, but in the bar route Alin is so obvious about his homosexuality that at least you could ask him about that matter in other worlds. Those little details really make me happy if i would see them especially in bigger role games.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 15:56:34 No.1180673
>>1180663

Your nitpicking seems pretty arbitrary. The MC is obviously gay or bisexual and would probably be inclined to take these things for granted. He has more pressing things to worry about than "Why is everything in this town unconcerned with what's between my legs when it's hitting on me?" There are a lot of things the MC could be asking, sure, but I don't think most BG players would find it terribly interesting to have 20 different culture questions from each and every partner to sift through when all of that'd be irrelevant after the first playthrough and moreover it'd just pad the game's wordcount. Rather than "Why not focus on sexuality," I'd ask you; "Why would the MC focus on it as opposed to all the other freaky shit going on?"

It's entirely possible that in the wider Blackgate (beyond Earth) universe sexuality isn't really a thing and everyone's willing to love/fuck whatever they want. Homophobia (at least, serious "Murder the impure sodomites!) is more of a cultural/partially religious thing anyhow, which you can see if you look beyond the last millennium or so. Greece is an obvious example--some might argue that it's an exception, but at minimum, it's worth noting that the whole sodomy nonsense was more of a modern illegality than not if you look back around the 17th-18th century where we had good ol' anti-buggery laws (yes, they were actually called that.)

It's not really all that logical to look for "realism" in fantasy where you have monsters and magic unless the setting is explicitly magical realism or Sci-fi if it's explained well enough. We're not sitting in Earth culture in the game, we've been transferred to an entirely different world more or less, isolated from all that other nonsense.

Why would people care much if your Khajiit is fucking an Argonian in Skyrim? Mundis isn't as deeply concerned with that shit as Earth. You can see as much if you dip into the lore and read some books ingame. There's a passage in one Khajiit life-advice book where the narrator outright tells you to go out and live life to the fullest and take as many sexual partners as you want, male or female. Khajiit are horny little fucks and there's even another book where there's an explicit sex scene involving one (censored in post-Daggerfall games.) Now, I'll agree that Bioware, by contrast, treats sexuality a bit awkwardly by contrast, though it's rarely ignored altogether. You can see that with Dorian's relationship with his father in Inquisition as an example.

TLDR: Your complaining would only really have validity if this game (or other fantasy games you dislike) took place on earth and pretended that homophobia and whatnot were not a thing and never tried to explain it or address it. Fantasy universes don't have earth's cultural baggage and Blackgate is one such case.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 16:02:23 No.1180674
>>1180558
>wanting to date someone that constantly insults you

Found the literal cuck.
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Ethos 2016/11/22 17:16:42 No.1180686
>>1180663

The MC don't know it. You, the player, have the knowledge because you have played all the paths. The MC have not, he only have the knowledge of the path he's on.
He has no way of guessing they are all bi/gay
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 18:00:47 No.1180693
>>1180663

I know you probably don't give a shit, but I feel like giving my opinion on this matter anyway.

I like the fact that sexuality, similarly to race (in most games that have the option/customization at least), is not specifically mentioned or made out to be something in need of particular attention.

Video games are recreational, and unless they specifically want to tell a story about the oppression of minorities, they do not want to alienate their players by bringing the oppression some of them may face in real life into that recreation. Being gay myself, I don't wanna play, say Skyrim as you brought it up, and also have to face the same homophobic shit as I do irl. That's not why I play videogames.
Plus, within the lore of those fictional worlds, if homosexuality or being black or whatever is perfectly fine within the culture, there is no reason to bring it up.

On the other hand, developers also want to address the desires of their target groups. If I make a gay VN, my players will want to romance the hot dudes in it and maybe get some nicely written sex scenes.
In an open world RPG where you have the option to take a spouse, does it really matter what gender the spouse is? And furthermore, does it really make sense to not only specifically single out the gay playerbase by introducing homophobia into the lore of that world, but also make story content that is entirely based on the gender of your character and that optional spouse?
Also, just having the option to romance same sex characters in games is considered "SJW pandering" these days. Imagine if actual story content like quests are locked behind having to romance a same sex character, oh the outrage that would cause.

Finally, and I think this is the most important part: By normalizing sexuality and same sex options within video games, developers help homosexuality to become more accepted. Characters aren't defined by whom they fuck, they're defined by whom they are. And that is good, because that is also exactly what gays should be seen as. Just people. Individuals with personalities and backgrounds and experiences just like everybody else - just that they prefer fucking someone different than you. That's why the "token gay character" in so many stories is so shallow and usually a poorly written character. That character is defined by their sexuality, rather than the rest of their personality, and that's a really bad foundation for a likable character.
Like just to give you an example that pops up in my head. Oberyn Martell in Game of Thrones was bisexual, openly so (particularly in the show), and he is an immensely popular character. And he wasn't a popular character because he's bi, but because he's a badass. While HBO tried super hard to push that bisexuality aspect, it was still so minor to his character, his personality, and his backstory, and all those aspects were what made him a great character.

Edited at 2016/11/22 18:01:15
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 18:44:54 No.1180706
>>1180693
I prepared a shit load of text that i just deleted because after a lot of years on the internet i learned my lesson. In short you may got me wrong, realistic situations in games (also the ones that have dragons and magoc) make me sink deeper into the experience thus more enjoyable. Also forcing gay acceptance in games and television does not make people accept gays it makes them annyoed at first angry later and voilent even more later. But seeing who controls the media its just another divide and conquer thingy to keep people scared enough to control them, lets get back to BG.




I really dont know if i should stop playing and wait for the full version to come out. On the one hand its super interesting to find out things on other routes that you could'nt find out on your route. But on the other hand when i first play fully trough my main (KRANE ALL THE WAY) route fully i dont want to know what happens i want it to be a secret. Its quite a pickle im in. I hope i got that line right my cutlural references in english arent perfect.

However who's gonna wait and whos gonna play every single upadte?

Edited at 2016/11/22 18:47:10
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 22:12:31 No.1180759
>>1180706
I will play every single update because Bane can ( and has with Kody and Eterni as far as i know ) change their route in a different way than it was in a previous update.

Old Kody was apparently a gambler back home where he came from and Blackgate was a rehabilitation center for him, but since update .26 i think, Bane changed that.

Eterni's path was 90% Crome's path before updates that changed his route and personality.

He also recently changed Rotis' path a bit.

So the characters when the game is completed can be totaly different than what they are now, i'm not saying all of them are gonna be changed, just that he may change some of them.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/22 22:50:18 No.1180776
>>1180706

There are plenty of people who play every single update, or every other update. Of course, "plenty" is a very relative term given that Blackgate is one of several gay furry VNs which is already appealing to a niche fanbase.

So there're plenty, but hardly huge numbers. He has 628 total paying patrons as of right now, and you can bet your ass that most of them are squeezing out their money's worth. I'm sure the actual number of people hopping on every one or two updates is three or four times that--and I'm probably lowballing that. Hard to tell when the downloaders don't list total downloads and there are three per OS anyhow haha

Edited at 2016/11/22 22:58:47
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Furrynomous 2016/11/23 04:33:08 No.1180915
>>1180015
>will get confirmation and specific time on Tuesday.

Fucking hell, did they forget about it AGAIN? Don't they know how to program a reminder so they don't forget? This is ridiculous...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/23 16:07:14 No.1181130
>>1180915

More likely just making excuses. Either way, kinda hard to draw in new patrons with this kind of inconsistency. Or perhaps consistent unreliability would be a better way of putting it...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/23 20:25:20 No.1181167
>>1180776
i really want him to reach the 4k mark for the animated stuff i really consider pledging. But i moved out of my mothers house since i was 18 and i got that min/max mindset since i needed to buy food and stuff cheap with the most effect. That mindset is now telling me do you want to spent like 120$ (if it takes a year wth monthly update) on a visual novel? That is not cost effective.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/23 20:34:08 No.1181180
>>1181167

You're right that its not cost-effective at all. Especially not when updates have widely varying amount of content in them for the same price of whatever you pledge. You might get an update consisting of one scene and a bunch of minor edits, an update consisting of one day, or an update consisting of two or three solid days--when the last should be the target every time. Moreover, I'd find it hard to justify paying unless I was really confident that things were proceeding as planned and on time, rather than consistently late and sporadic as we've been seeing. I don't necessarily think that bare-bones updates are rushed out for a cash grab as many people seem to think, but it's kinda hard to refute when a lot of them are actually low content...

It's a great VN and supporting it may be more worthwhile to some people than others--I can't really fault people for how they want to spend their money. But given that the only person with more than a very small amount of sprites so far is Gruff, I really doubt that animated stuff would be coming in a rush as opposed to another year down the line from hitting that milestone.

I mean, take my opinion with a grain of salt since I'm not an actual patron, but these kind of things are why I'd have a hard time justifying shelling out in the first place.

Edited at 2016/11/23 20:38:27
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Furrynomous 2016/11/24 07:14:13 No.1181348
>>1180276

Hmmmm...

Well, they're all OCs, so I can get that they went for something unique rather than more generic. Although, hell, Kitako is pretty unique and he's just from the game, right? If had a gun to my head to predict a self-insert character, I'd go with Kitako pretty up-there based on that description. Probably third. Although this isn't BAD, this is just a guess from self-insert being synonymous with self-importance. Just that "unique" isn't really a fair gauge on characters.

They can be in the story, but their arcs have to be important and unique enough that it means something. Crome, Eterni, and Malo are all present in the same area (construction), but cookie-cuttering them to have identical stories is a bad idea. One of Blackgate's strengths is the immersive writing, and I do feel like it'll happen for them all seperately and they'll get their individual pieces of story to tell.

Malo's fire powers were VERY downplayed with his interaction with Alin in the bar (making small fires for Alin's amusement) and with how he describes them to the Player. Crome and Eterni I think can naturally make fire by breath, and I think it was decided a LONG time ago to have a common scene of them lost in the tunnels with the Player where they would need to make fire. This did happen, and they've made bonfires and such after the wave closed up the tunnels behind them. It still may have a purpose, but for right now it serves for them to be able to light a fire while lost underground. Malo never did anything special with his fire power, so I imagine it might be simply a way to explain a fire underground without a firestarting set of tools. OR it's a remnant from a scene Bane had in his mind from before that all the construction boys would have in common.

Bionic arm? Who knows. With Malo's recent update, it became important that his arm doesn't work, and the backstory for how he lost it makes sense.

Bernstein bears story is a callback to the berenstain vs berenstein thing. And it highlights Malo's desire to not let people be thrown away. Plus it's a great tool to allow the Player to have a conflict of going back into the tunnels.

Agree kinda with the Crome archetypal thing. We haven't been let in on Crome's backstory about his wings too much. The Insightful have undergone some retcons in the months and months since the story was started, so I'm holding off on that too much. Every character needs a LITTLE backstory, so writing in a lost member of the cult isn't so insane.

Eterni is... interesting as character design goes. He's 100% full of his own ass. He knows a LOT about Blackgate and the lore around it, the science behind what he can understand, is shown to have books and books of info in his apartment, etc. And again, he's full of himself. He's smart as fuck but he KNOWS how smart he is, so he's a bit pompous about it. He needs to explain a little more stuff, but ALSO needs a hard kick to the ass about humility.

It is my hope that the construction site gets 3 pretty different paths. 3 characters under one "choice" needs to differentiate them. We already have a bit of Malo's based on his persona and giving up and the left/right/wait choice during the wave. I REALLY hope each character gets their specific choice and it alters the story drastically from there for that character. It's more writing, but I hope it goes that way.

All the "main" characters have good backgrounds and reasons why they do what they do. "Interweaving" is... correct but not 100% accurate. Some events always happen regardless, but I LOVE to see what happens there if the Player is not involved whatsoever.

Shoe-horned relationship with construction, hmmmmmmm kinda. You're wanting them to tie it into the "main" story. I don't want that. I want them to present their own arcs and detail what happens in the main story when the Player isn't there to help out. Three separate and personal stories, emerging in a new world where the Player wasn't involved and Blackgate is under stress because of it. I love it. We saw a bit of that iN Krane's route where the focus was the relationship, and the town fucking started exploding in the background. I want that. I want that in my face.

Detail the construction routes a bit, make each one its own story in moderately different ways. Then re-emerge (maybe not all?) the routes to discover that Blackgate has done without the Player there. Small decisions down below during each character's alone time can alter things up above in slight ways, etc


I agree that the forced choice based on one uninformed decision without getting to know them all and a chance to go "wait no not this guy, I pick the fucking dragon" or something similar is not the best, but I can understand it from a writer's POV.

100% agree that it needs to stop being self-contained. It has to matter for the town.

Edited at 2016/11/24 07:16:52
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Furrynomous 2016/11/24 10:09:57 No.1181419
I can't run the new demo on my Mac.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/24 17:43:45 No.1181771
>>1181348

Inserting your OC into another work is inevitably going to be pretty cringey. It's understandable for people to want it and hell, they're often paying for it. But other people generally are going to find it off-putting, moreso because it seems arbitrary and often doesn't contribute much. Kinda like how people respond to seeing Karmakat in every other prominent furry comic. I don't know about you, but it sure as hell makes me roll my eyes. Don't even get me started about Klace's MajorMinor for that matter, holy mother of self-important self-insert OCs...

Kitako is indeed pretty unique and he is Bane's creation as opposed to an OC. But he's also tied into the story--and moreover, the backstory. He's the reason (as far as we presently know) that Vincent got into shit with city hall and Gruff's mother ended up getting killed. Vincent feels responsible for him, and all of this ties back to the tense atmosphere of the city. So while I initially did think "Whoah, is this one of the OC's? This is totally different in what seems to be an arbitrary way." I did come around and see him in a different light. Admittedly, I don't like the character, but I don't think he's awful or detracts from the story.

The others, so far, don't really have that. We have Crome and his minor ties to the Insightful, being referenced as the loreguy by Plox (though he isn't named.) Malo picks up the fortune cards (I forgot about this before) and I don't think Eterni is referenced at all outside of the Construction route. Their backstories don't have any meaning at all that contributes to Blackgate, it's more like...justifications for them being where they are and acting the way they do. But they're not important. Every single other route has something about their backstory that ties into the overall intrigue of the story in a way that is relevant to more than just their own individual routes. I don't necessarily mean that their backstories have to be groundbreaking, but it'd be nice to see it be relevant in some way. Helle's garden isn't changing the entire story, but it is context for why she straight up murders a guy later on and you even get to be with her when she discovers it in her route, and the aftermath in Krane's.

-Jack got in deep with the city's underbelly and politics and became a hitman. He was depressed as hell and missed his family, and these things tie together with his apparent desire to protect the player when he sees him as a son (that he also wants to fuck). We see him acting shifty and whatnot on every route.
-Gruff, Vincent and Alin all go together with how their backstories are riddled with tragedy you find out in bits and pieces across other routes (you even get Amelia's journal in the fugitive route!) not sure this part needs much explaining.
-Plox's backstory as Duke Leraje ties into Decarabia's shadiness and drives the entirety of the Insightful conspiracy
-Rotis's ties to the insightful, previous loss to Vincent in a fight and desire to get home drive his actions in every route he shows up in, and he gets downright scared of you on the street in all three non police-officer routes.
-Helle has her garden, which shows up as a point of conflict when she murders the shit out of her neighbor for destroying it. This also is reflected in the Library route when said neighbor comes to you to ask about a day in court or something.
-Kody's ties to the other human drive his actions and conflict in several routes, from poisoning Gruff to being interrogated and potentially sharksploding.
-Kitako: See above and Longma is the weak link so far, but he has like one event total anyhow right now.

The Construction workers...they just have fancy little tales that add nothing to Blackgate. Sure, they're there, they have reasons to be there and they've been affected by their time in Blackgate, but we don't learn anything about the city or the story or their role in the plot, because they don't have any role in the plot unless you pick them as your partner. They are indeed just cookie cutters right now and nothing really special. I just don't see their arcs being either important or unique (individually). The Construction path as a whole may be, but only time will tell if there is significant enough differences so far.

I didn't know that there was some old scene of everyone making a fire very long ago, that's interesting. Though it seems a bit arbitrary for Malo to have fire powers just so he can take part. It'd be more interesting to see a variation of that scene that's totally different because he and the MC don't have a fire, or one of them was just smart enough to bring a torch. Why should all three of them be able to make fires because of being a certain race? That's just making them all a part of the cookie-cutter!

I don't have a problem with Malo having a bionic arm per se, it just seems like another part of the whole "special unique OC" feel of the character. His arm breaking down is kinda just arbitrary drama in my opinion--we'll see if it actually comes into play as important--I know that it became a thing in the recent update, but that doesn't mean it'll prevent him from say, getting on the lift to go back up and instead just require some extra improvisation from the MC for everything to be okay again.

I disagree about the Berenstein bear thing--it's a bit silly an unnecessary, and for people unfamiliar with the ridiculous theory it may even be a bit immersion breaking. The same thing could be more meaningfully accomplished without bringing a children's tale into it. But that's just my opinion about stylistic choice, I suppose.

I'm also hoping that all three of them get different paths. But more than just the binary "Left or Right" that happens when you're getting stuck down there on day...5? I'd like to see the player head down to their individual mine shafts, since all of them get promotions on the first day. Show more unique scenes for them. You said that you'd like to see what happens if the player is uninvolved, but it's kinda the point that nothing happens--things only happen because you head down to Level F or whatever--which is part of the issue of this all happening in isolation. I suppose a central conflict of E-shards showing up on the other levels more often could be referenced on other routes or something, but yeah, there needs to be more to it--which is why I'd like to see more to it all, some construction workers interacting with one another (Eterni was pretty mad that Crome got the position he wanted), some conflict beyond "Hey what scary as fuck thing will happen down at level F todayyyyyy?"

Even if they don't all have complex stories tied into the spooky backstory of Blackgate, there's a lot of room for improvement with how they interact with the rest of Blackgate. I can see the appeal of having three personal stories and being like Krane's in the sense that in Krane's route we focus on Krane while everything else goes to shit instead of being with the fantastic four/good guys or the Insightful. But Krane's route features a lot more conflict. We have Krane's bloodthirst driving him to want to kill you on instinct. We have Plox manipulating the situation into you living with him where he'll be tempted to kill you on instinct--and moreover Plox bribing Jack into letting it happen. We have the mob trying to kill you (Though this happens on Jack's route too) and so on. There's a lot happening. I think a lot would be solved if we peeled away the cookie-cutter and saw more going on. I'd still dislike them as unique snowflake OCs with irrelevant backstories, but they wouldn't be as bad (to me) if a lot of those little things didn't pile up.

Edited at 2016/11/24 21:45:56
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Wrath 2016/11/26 07:58:53 No.1182331
Bane hows the map of the town and other stuff you mentioned coming along would love to see the lay out of blackgate and where everyone lives and stuff
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Furrynomous 2016/11/27 06:28:19 No.1182718
>>1182331

Wait, when did Bane mention this? I didn't miss a discussion stream did I?
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Wrath 2016/11/27 06:36:57 No.1182720
no he posted a wile back about adding a map of the town and some stuff with the mc's cell and stuff but its been a wile and now the artists are taking a break and thats odd as is since its been a wile since we got new art but i understand with the holidays so i was wondering if that was something the new artists would do or are we going to have to wait a wile it seams there is a lot of stuff bane wants to add to this game but its going slow I guess banes not good with pressure
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Furrynomous 2016/11/27 18:04:21 No.1182855
>>1181419
^This, this right here, does blackgate need a new compiler to run for ouy Macs?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/27 20:41:54 No.1182893
With less than 4 days till the end of the month, do you think Bane will still try to push out two updates or just one for the month?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/27 21:01:10 No.1182898
>>1182893

It would not surprise me to see two back to back updates as he has done this before but who knows.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 13:11:14 No.1183180
New update


Change Log
+ Rotis Night 7
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 14:46:50 No.1183194
<3 Rotis is the best husbando
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 15:30:24 No.1183210
Finally he put that tongue to use.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 16:27:27 No.1183240
>>1168368

Looks like I was wrong, the Insightful go ahead with the rebellion no matter what route you're on.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 16:35:25 No.1183243
Hello, I can't play the latest version on my mac ( I'm currently on El capitan). Someone know why ?
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/28 16:48:07 No.1183249
>>1183180
Huh. Now I wonder: will Bane release the construction update as well, as a separate update? I mean, ok he changed his mind, but why would he scrap what he had done for the construction route so far?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 17:13:32 No.1183252
>>1183249
>Implying that he had work done so far that he could scrap
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/28 17:40:25 No.1183259
>>1183252
Stop shooting down my hopes and dreams you meanie! T-T
I just wanted more awkward hugs with science-hasubando T-T
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 17:58:48 No.1183262
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>>1180080

Googled sparkle dragons, and this was in the top row. Hmmm. Now who does this remind me of...

:)

Edited at 2016/11/28 17:59:14
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 18:07:49 No.1183263
>>1183259
Hopefully that'll be in the next update, they did say on November 12th Friday update that a construction worker was being written ( hopefully Eterni ) so I HOPE it's going to be construction update and not Gruff cause he doesn't have enough time to write him in like 2 days and he said that there would be a construction update in November. So please Bane more Eterni...
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 18:41:40 No.1183272
>>1183249

I mean, it is altogether possible that he wrote part of the Construction worker update already and set it aside when he had sudden inspiration to dive into Rotis's content instead. We don't have any reason to believe that this is not, in fact, the case unless Bane outright said somewhere that he scrapped everything.

Just that we don't know that he did do that work or not either. So it's just a matter of whether you're optimistic or pessimistic.

Given past display, pessimism seems the safer bet. But it's not like I wouldn't welcome being wrong.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 20:51:38 No.1183291
>>1183180
Only a 1 day update....

I'll just wait til the other one gets updated.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 22:47:15 No.1183400
Hope we get a graphic for that scene soon. It was pretty good.

Man I want more Rotis.

Though I do like that it seems everything starts happening at once even if you aren't around to see it.

Also I guess Krane breaking his fangs is gonna be the "canon" route since he does it if you aren't with him. Im mean I guess thats kinda obvious since hes kill in the route where you stop him.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 22:47:26 No.1183401
Hope we get a graphic for that scene soon. It was pretty good.

Man I want more Rotis.

Though I do like that it seems everything starts happening at once even if you aren't around to see it.

Also I guess Krane breaking his fangs is gonna be the "canon" route since he does it if you aren't with him. Im mean I guess thats kinda obvious since hes kill in the route where you stop him.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/28 23:03:22 No.1183409
>>1183401

Canon? I hardly see how that makes it the canon choice. All that it means is that it's the choice Krane is guaranteed to make if the player isn't on his route. Which is called consistency.

Canon would be if that was the intended choice for being on his route--which doesn't really seem to be the case. Given that your relationship improves if you prevent him from doing it--and you get a sex scene (with two variations).

Edited at 2016/11/28 23:08:35
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Furrynomous 2016/11/29 01:56:35 No.1183570
>>1183409

I wouldn't call it consistency, considering the fact that the MC seems to be the tipping point/catalyst for Krane to do something about his fangs.

In all honesty it really doesn't make any sense for Krane to suddenly take such a drastic action if the MC has nothing to do with him. If anything it's an inconsistency.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/29 02:03:54 No.1183602
>>1183409
Well honestly, considering the fact that he does it in his route because he doesn't want to hurt you, him not doing it outside your route would make more sense.

But I guess thats kinda his big moment, and if everyone else is getting a big moment outside their route then logically it would make sense for him to remove his teeth since otherwise hes just himself.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/29 02:18:41 No.1183605
>>1183570
>>1183602

That was my initial thought. But this latest update makes me think that Krane was thinking about, if not planning it in advance. The MC's presence may well have made him even more fervent about doing it in his route, but we see plenty of Krane's unhappiness & dissatisfaction with his lot in Blackgate as an alienated figure besides.

Rotis's Night 7 showcases his bitterness plenty, especially when he says that it's "Something he should have done a long time ago," more or less. So I don't think it's necessarily inconsistent.

But I do think that both of you have a point. It takes away from the value of the events of Krane's route if this is in fact the case--that he's been planning to mutilate himself all along, and makes seeing him on other routes unnecessarily sentimental. His appearances could also do a bit of a better job showing how utterly unhappy he is, since he's doing this in every route.

I did like it more when it seemed like the MC's presence was the tipping point, though.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 01:07:31 No.1184098
Will bane release another update this month?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 01:16:43 No.1184104
>>1184098

Well you've got one whole day to find out.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 02:40:49 No.1184127
Did anybody else notice the pen falling off the desk when Vekk appears in Rotis' night 7? What do you think it reveals?
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/30 08:46:01 No.1184236
>>1184127
That and the fact that he blinks.
All in all, I found Rotis' night 7 somewhat frightening, because it gives you the feeling of everything going to shit. Krane is alone at the police station, the bar is wrecked, the routine and the order that were the foundations of Blackgate crumble. And you just sit there, having a snack. It's so sinister. Seeing Rotis being manipulated by Leraje is just sad ;<
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 17:13:14 No.1184421
>>1184236

Just imagine how awful things are on the Fugitive route, where the MC's presence doesn't mitigate any of the damage. Instead he just sits in a room. Alone. Meanwhile he gets one or two days with whatever subroutes end up being available as a part of it (Andras? Aradina?) who he barely knows.
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Bookwyrm 2016/11/30 17:36:23 No.1184448
>>1184421
I'm actually curious on how those routes will turn out, seeing things from the other side of the barricade. So far, all routes put you up against Andras; I wonder if the fugitive route will see MC thwarting the efforts of all other parties.
And Aradina... she's so cold in the other routes, I don't really know what to expect. I think being with her will cause some issues with Plox.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 19:45:28 No.1184475
>>1184448
Does this mean you can possibly fuck aradina?
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 19:53:24 No.1184476
>>1184475

I mean, she shows up if the MC tells Andras that he wants "Love," so it seems quite possible.
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Furrynomous 2016/11/30 20:08:33 No.1184479
>>1184448
I wonder if we learn all the Amelia Earhart stuff on Vincent's route that we learned in the fugitive route.

That whole journal just made me feel bad I wasn't in vincent's route while learning it.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 00:09:47 No.1184537
>>1184479

Fuck I totally forgot about that, I wonder if this will be expanded upon in later Vincent updates like Alin's previous relationship with Flauros.

>>1184236

Yeah, Leraje seems to be the actual antagonist in Blackgate, he doesn't get any better on his route either. I wonder what Vekk blinking could indicate, didn't some of the citizens think he was the Eternal or a shapeshifter? Kody and Plox I believe?

>>1183605

I also agree that Krane mutilating himself should have been route-specific rather than a set-point in the story akin to Gruff getting poisoned or Helle bitch-slapping her neighbor to death, a better scenario for him woulld've been him getting mauled by the outsider in other routes like he is in his "non-mutilated" storyline, whereas you have the option/ability to save him in his route. I assume we are going to see a lot of the romanceable characters die when we aren't on their routes, like Gruff eventually succumbing to his poison if you aren't playing a "Big Four" route or a route where the character is still aligned with the library.

>>1183409

I mean, Krane just ends up dieing in that specific route anyway so unless he is somehow resurrected or something, "Fangless Krane" appears to be the canon route.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 00:20:25 No.1184541
>>1181771
>>1181348

I think the general hamfisted-ness of the Construction routes is just a biproduct of how Bane writes the story. If I recall, Bane had the story and general plot trajectory/elements planned out early on and he gets into the minute details when he chooses to write an update, and the inclusion of self-inserts as a Patreon reward kind of threw a wrench in that as he did not plan to tie them into the story at all. This isn't even a knock on Bane's writing, I agree that self-inserts are cringe-tier and a bad idea in general. The rainbow dragons stick out like sore-thumbs aesthetically, but have some of the dullest stories and personalities in the game. Malo is alright I guess, but his character is almost non-existent in the other routes as you had previously stated, and so he still seems very out of place. I don't know what can be done to really make the Construction routes work honestly.

Edited at 2016/12/01 00:21:52
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 01:16:00 No.1184555
>>1184537

Well first, you don't have the option to save him on his route--unless you meant that we should have the option to save him on his route instead of what we have now, where he appears to be mortally injured no matter what you do. I say appear, because we don't know that he actually dies, unlike what the Krane-husbando prima donnas think.

I agree that we're probably going to see a lot of the romanceable characters die off-route. Vincent's route already has us quite literally killing one of them ourselves or letting Vincent do it. Based off of what Bane himself has said in this very thread, it seems likely that there are going to be a lot of deaths no matter what.

Still not really what canon means though! It's just something that happens according to the way the plot is written. Canon would be if there was a Blackgate 2 and the plot assumes that you romanced Kitako. Canonically, Krane would have cracked his fangs, sure.

>>1184541

Yup. Right now, the Construction routes aren't even good for what they are. They tell a story from a cookie cutter template, and the first five days of all of those stories are mostly copy and paste. The routes need a serious addition. More scenes involving other construction worker characters. Some sort of conflict that the MC can get involved in. Something more substantive than: 1) Go to work 2) Go down to Level F or whatever with partner 3) Identical scary shit on every route with no variation in choice 4) Go back up and freak out. 5) Go hang out in the only unique daily scenes with your chosen partner.

It'd be nice if the construction routes were integrated with the others, but honestly I'd just settle for something that sets all three characters' individual routes apart in the construction setting. Because right now, there's nothing. Maybe all three of them will go in TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS in day 7 and beyond, but that's still five or six nearly identical days too many.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 02:29:13 No.1184567
>>1184555

Yeah I meant that there ideally should be a way to save him in his route from the outsider rather than have him be mauled, and that him removing his fangs should be something that was specific to his route. Whereas in other routes he dies. Right now, assuming there is not a way to save him, Krane will probably die in ALL routes. We don't know that there is a way to save him in his "non-mutilated" route at the moment. Also you are right "canon" isn't the word I should be using. I'm not the best with literary terminology unfortunately.

Edited at 2016/12/01 02:30:56
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 03:32:49 No.1184583
>>1184541
What's funny is that over at the Echo VN the self-insert reward characters (granted, there have only been two) are basically the fan-favorites. Not sure if it's because of the writing, or maybe it's just the way they look

Edited at 2016/12/01 03:36:24
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 03:36:31 No.1184586
>>1184555
Well chances are how you save Krane is let him remove his teeth. I dunno how that'll help, but I bet he survives that route.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 03:38:05 No.1184588
>>1184583
Well it helps that they are among the nicest characters in the game, most of the actual love interests have rather unsympathetic aspects to them, while the two OCs so far are basically just cool guys.
Their sprites certainly help.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 03:43:16 No.1184590
>>1184583
I think the reason why people like the two self-inserts is because they basically have no flaws. All the other characters have been laid bare and not all of it is pretty.

>>1184588
I'll agree that Jenna and Leo are kinda shitty atm, but I won't pass judgement until we get further into their routes. I like all of the others.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 04:03:29 No.1184593
>>1184588

I mean, I'll withhold judgment until I actually play the game, but that sounds kind of boring. Hell, one of the reasons the Blackgate OCs are considered terrible is because the have like no character flaws.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 04:07:24 No.1184596
>>1184583
>>1184588
>>1184590

I feel it's also easier to tie in the Echo self-inserts because of Echo's setting. Echo doesn't have as much fantastical lore behind it (though it does obviously have some fantasy elements to it) and it is basically just set on Earth but with anthros instead of humans. Blackgate's citizens are an amalgamation of creatures from a whole array of worlds and dimensions. I imagine developing that kind of backstory for the Construction OC's while also tying them in to the history and current events of Blackgate (which unlike the town of Echo, exists in near-complete isolation) is somewhat difficult. If Bane decided to not involve the Construction workers with the whole Insightful vs. Chosen arc or any of the previous events that occurred before the MC arrived, then they would be too out of place. However, when Bane does try tying them in with other routes, they always seem forced or shoehorned when included.

>>1184586

Maybe in the "fangless Krane" route Jack lets Krane and the MC take a sick-day from work and deals with the outsider himself? I'm not sure.

Edited at 2016/12/01 04:19:18
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 04:31:58 No.1184603
>>1184596

Construction OCs don't even need to be involved in the main story. Just present in it. Shit, all of them take you to the bar at some point, which is when the MC could meet them on the other routes.

The friggen messenger kangaroo has more plot involvement than them now.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 05:56:14 No.1184635
it seems like both gruff and Construction gets the shaft this month. Also, is it me or are the updates really...minuscule
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Blackgate build 0.55 Bookwyrm 2016/12/01 08:06:51 No.1184656
Hi there Bane here,
Another update! This time with Andras our favorite owl mayor. There's a lot of exposition here that I need to break up with a new sexy scene in the future. It's being planned.

Change Log

+Andras Night 6

+Edits to Library, Bartender, and Rotis

>Dafuq
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 08:56:28 No.1184660
>>1184603
I thought Malo was in one of the routes...

I should play every route again.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 08:56:34 No.1184661
>>1184656
...What?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 10:08:32 No.1184675
>>1184656
Most of the recent updates feel really small, one night per update, and what about construction update and Gruff, i was really hoping he would put at least the construction update with this one since he was already writing it.

And what happend to Friday updates, there hasn't been one since the 12th of November.

This seems very unfair to people that are paying for the updates since they get charged twice a month and get very little in return, and this wasn't even a full night, so i think he shouldn't do things like this where he only puts a small "begining" kind of part and charges it like a full update with lots of stuff in it. And i don't think grammar edits and things like that count as content.

He could have put at least what he wrote for construction with this or Rotis update instead of parts of nights, or both Rotis and Andras updates together and the small constructon update separately with mabye Gruff a little in it.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 13:24:15 No.1184717
>>1184660

Nah. He's referenced in the Library route as "Some guy with a Bionic arm is said to have found tarot cards," or something, but he neither appears nor is mentioned by name.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 15:21:28 No.1184729
How do i access andras route?
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/01 16:24:51 No.1184767
>>1184729
You must run off into the woods the first night, then follow Vekk
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Furrynomous 2016/12/01 17:34:08 No.1184778
>>1184717
He is both mentioned and appears if you go look for him instead of Flint on night 6.

Edited at 2016/12/01 17:35:32
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Furrynomous 2016/12/02 03:56:22 No.1184940
I enjoyed the latest update, although something that frustrates me is the cliffhanger endings of updates. I know it makes it feel more like a show and gets you to anticipate the next update, but unfortunately that update might be 4 months away, so it is just uncomfortable to wait in anticipation that long. I think Bane's audience is locked in at this point, so there's no point to them. It would feel much better if updates ended with a chapter ending.

Also, is the Blackgate panel at Furfest tomorrow going to be livestreamed somewhere?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/02 17:03:15 No.1185144
MUH MEMES
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Furrynomous 2016/12/02 17:30:57 No.1185149
>That meme conversation
Ugh
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Furrynomous 2016/12/02 17:40:12 No.1185153
>>1184717
In the Library route (so basically vincent's route so far), if you choose to follow the Malo lead instead of the other guy, you meet up with him about the taro cards
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Furrynomous 2016/12/02 17:41:33 No.1185156
>>1184940
One thing I really do like about Blackgate, a thing I think Bane has done well, is the sense of alien-ness everyone has.
Everyone has wierd quirks, from small stuff like Vincent thinking Psychology isn't real to everything about Andras
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 00:37:00 No.1185299
>>1185156
I agree, each of the characters are definitely unique. It's much better than the other VNs where each character is a trope rather than a person.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 03:07:31 No.1185322
>>1184778

Ah, you're right. I missed that bit. Now show up in other routes!
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/12/03 13:30:04 No.1185423
>>1184656

How do u get to Andras? I mean, he appears in like six routes, so....
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 14:17:30 No.1185443
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 15:24:29 No.1185452
After playing through the Andras route, I have to say he's ridiculously inconsistent.

In the other major route he appears in, he's cryptic, unhelpful, and aloof. Really hard to figure out what the hell he's talking about.

In the fugitive/vekk route, however, he's all "oh yeah lemme give you a room, everything you want, and tell you everything about the town, also here's the Blackgate and I wanna be your buddy."

I wouldn't say it's bad, so much as... weird.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/03 15:33:45 No.1185454
>>1185452
To be honest, he's still somewhat aloof and cryptic, even in his own route. Besids, in the other routes, you always start somewhat hostile to him, so I guess it's normal he'd be less helpful. Maybe he thinks that since you hate him already, he just needs to influence you in some other way to get what he wants, you know, reverse-psychology and all that.
However in his route, he's so incredibly awkward it's almost cute. But indeed, it was... weird.
He still gives this idea of a powerful and nighly unstoppable being, so I guess it kinda makes me feel safe to know he's on my side, but he's so alien. It will be interesting to see how the relationship between him and MC develops.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 21:14:50 No.1185593
Do you guys think there is any chance of us getting a nude sprite of Andras or a sex scene with him? That would be so awkward yet awesome. For some reason I find him to be attractive.

I'm also hoping that Leraje's planned coupe fails spectacularly. It will be interesting to see what Andras does with everybody in the aftermath, since he seems paranoid (rightfully so) of brewing dissent within the town. I also imagine someone like him would be able to sense that Learje is still alive and is Plox. Plox is not very subtle in his motives. Also, Vincent should know that Longma is a mole, since Kitako could track his location. I wouldn't be surprised if Andras is his true Sage and has been assigned as a mole by Andras.

Also, Andras mentions that somebody already calls him an Owl. Who is he referring to? Plox?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 21:22:48 No.1185594
>>1185593

Text explicitly from Bane's update on Patreon:
>Another update! This time with Andras our favorite owl mayor. There's a lot of exposition here that I need to break up with a new sexy scene in the future. It's being planned.

So there's going to be a sex scene.

Vincent is explicitly noted to be distracted as hell, so it's perfectly reasonable for him to be unaware that Longma is a mole. Kitako isn't exactly competent help--he isn't idiotic, but hardly the sort Vincent really needs. He's no wellspring of information or spymaster. He's more of a tool, useful in some specific cases.

It is entirely possible though that Longma is a triple agent. But we have like no information about him. He's probably my second-least favorite character after Kitako, honestly.

I get the implication that Plox is probably under the radar. But Andras should know about his influence among the police, and Jack owes Andras some loyalty. So there is a kind of disconnect in what's going on here.

And for Andras to know that someone calls him owl, it'd have to be someone he actually interacts with. Decarabia seems like a distinct possibility here. But I don't feel like replaying a bunch of routes just to find the line of who actually says it. :P
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Furrynomous 2016/12/03 22:10:56 No.1185606
Andras was my favorite before he had a route, and Andras is still my favorite.

I just want to cuddle with Mr. Owl. ^v^

Edited at 2016/12/03 22:11:27
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 00:30:29 No.1185660
>>1185594
Kitako probably knows that Longma is a mole, as there is little to no one in BG who can match Longma's speed. Plus It's surprising Vincent doesn't utilize Kitako's Wall hack ability. But what ever.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 00:42:22 No.1185661
>>1185660

How would Kitako know that Longma is a mole? I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion. He might, might just be able to know that Longma comes and goes with an odd frequency, but we don't even know if Kitako knows what a mole /is/. Other than a small furry creature.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 01:59:47 No.1185681
>>1185661
What i'm trying to say is that Kitako lived with vincent and longma long enough to know their habits. He might not know what a "mole" is but i think he would find an infrequency with longma's jogging since he has Widowmaker's ult 24/7. Plus Not much In BG can match Long's speed.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 03:05:21 No.1185695
>>1185681

That'd depend on how long Longma has been a mole. If he's been one the entire time he was with the Library, then would Kitako really be able to know? Or if Longma wasn't, I doubt Kitako's first guess would be; "My coworker/friend is a spy!"
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/12/04 03:25:05 No.1185699
>>1185443

Thank you.

It was hilarious, yet kind of endearing. Also it exposits a LOT of the backstory, and proves that the Eternal is in fact not god.

Though, there is a plot hole: Vekk claims he goes along because Andras knows that the MC can defeat the Eternal, yet Andras only rolls along because Vekk told him that the MC can defeat the Eternal.

Did one of the Chosen shapeshift and is screwing around with both of them?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 03:42:30 No.1185703
>>1185699
>Though, there is a plot hole: Vekk claims he goes along because Andras knows that the MC can defeat the Eternal, yet Andras only rolls along because Vekk told him that the MC can defeat the Eternal.

Or one of them is lying. It doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that Vekk could be doing so--I'm not inclined to assume that Andras would lie to the MC as opposed to simply withholding information.

Then there's the ominous scene at the end with Vekk and the bloody tools.

Very inclined to distrust everything about Vekk rather than assume the Chosen is involved, but it is possible.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/04 04:55:48 No.1185724
>>1185703
Hm, I remember Andras handing you the bloody poker on another route as well, I can't remember which one.
It's so much creepier witnessing it just come out of the gate though.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/04 05:37:45 No.1185746
>>1185724

He hands it to you on any of the Big Four routes where you visit him after Day 6 after Kody poisons Gruff. Same scene where he asks you if remember your brutality and you ask about the chairs and whatnot.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 02:30:27 No.1186015
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Jack by Shade the Wolf
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 02:40:05 No.1186017
>>1186015

Why's the sword look like an icicle? o_O
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 04:00:30 No.1186044
>>1186015
that surely is jack in his glory days.

>>1186017
perfect crime with no evidence? anyone?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 06:43:38 No.1186146
>>1185724
So far its been on any route where you save Gruff
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 08:48:57 No.1186180
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I don't know if it has already been noted but it seems I accidentally spoiled myself. And since this VN is moving at a snail's pace I'll post these spoilers as well.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 08:48:58 No.1186181
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>>1186180
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 17:13:03 No.1186444
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>>1186180
>>1186181
Why are you posting the endings to the Foundation series?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 18:42:34 No.1186474
>>1186444
Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 21:45:54 No.1186570
>>1186444
ah that doujin with General lady taking advantage of her bear officer. Good times.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 00:43:54 No.1187415
https://www.patreon.com/posts/mff-7427874

They posted about their MFF announcements, they are taking ideas for story endings to put into an anthology. Also they are making Blackgate sex toys.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 01:15:40 No.1187423
>>1187415
Did anybody attend the panel?

Also, I'm a bit confused about how they can make Blackgate sex toys. Aren't all the cocks in Blackgate standard humanoid/animal? How will they differ from the standard sex animal sex toys?

I was personally hoping for blackgate figurines, those would have been awesome. Hopefully if the other merchandise sells well they will make those.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 01:43:12 No.1187430
>>1187423
Maybe it will have their color schemes, idk. But i do look forward to a gruff dildo.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 02:03:11 No.1187433
>>1187430
You know what might be kind of neat for a Gruff dildo? Imagine if they combined the corkscrew-shaped penis of a boar with a human penis and designed it like that. I don't know if they could design it where it screws in and out, maybe create some pivot in the bottom of it, but either way it would be unique and an interesting concept.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 08:58:01 No.1187626
>>1187415
Humm, in their Patreon post they said to write interesting ideas on how the story could end, but on goalpublications' page they said to not write specifically how the story could end...

So this is basically a fan story you can write about your favorite husbandos... Can't wait to at least one for Eterni.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 13:26:38 No.1187693
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Oh god, imagine the Leraje dildo
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 16:08:30 No.1187757
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>>1187693

I stopped being surprised at the size of things that people could train their assholes take a long time ago.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 16:35:03 No.1187784
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>>1186474
>Because when I came across it I suspected Blackgate ripped off the idea for Eternal (including the name). You know, with all different dimensions/universes talk and all in the VN.

Have you ever actually read any of the Foundation books? There is no similarity between them and Blackgate, dolt. None of the Foundation books ever even come close to touching on alternate dimensions/universes or monsters.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/07 19:06:28 No.1187839
>>1187626
I agree. It might take a while though, he's among the ones we know the least about: nearly no information has been yet given regarding his world, background or society, besides the fact that his people surpassed tribal traditions.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 20:05:35 No.1187858
>>1187839
Lol, I knew you were gonna reply if i said Eterni, because it appears he is your favorite too.

But yeah, it might take a while and it's not actually going to be "cannon" if that applies here, 'cause it's fan stories, not Bane's story for him, and not just him but also other characters. Mabye we'll learn more about him when he finally gets an update... PLEASE BANE PLEASE.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/07 23:04:44 No.1187910
>>1187858
If I remember correctly, the stories of the construction characters are not written by the patrons, but instead the characters' personalities and overall stories were already there (though obviously they needed adjustments to fit the character design, as with Malo's prosthetic arm).

Other favourites of mine are Malo, Rotis and Alin; honestly, though, I like all of the bar crew. As far as given background, Rotis is the most interesting at the moment, and also one of the characters we know more about, so I think it's going to be easier for people to write about him. Also, that tongue of his sure is titillating, although I could do without the asphyxiation part.

Edit: *notices tags* wow, someone's mad.

Edited at 2016/12/07 23:44:48
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Furrynomous 2016/12/08 07:17:33 No.1188097
>>1187415
Hmm I wonder if they got that idea from echo. They already do short stories don't they?
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AnthroAquatic 2016/12/08 14:05:07 No.1188297
>>1187626

Think you should probably read the call for submissions a bit more carefully.
The point of the anthology is to create short stories to tell an interesting ending to the story of Blackgate. Since the VN will already contain the real ending, this is less for writers to try and guess exactly what will happen and more for them to come up with a unique way for the story to end.


>>1188097

Nope. Got the idea from the fact that we work/have worked on several other anthologies already.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/11 04:32:28 No.1189316
Soo...do we know what the next route update will be? Hasn't been mentioned in the last few updates, particularly after randomsurprise Rotis & Andras. I assume construction.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/11 12:28:01 No.1189412
>>1189316
Hard to tell, since the schedule got scrapped. Even though I hope for the construction crew (and I guess it would be the fair choice), my bet is on Gruff, considering he's more popular. But who knows? I might be surprised.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/11 22:23:49 No.1189508
Prior update did say that Bane had been working on the Construction piece at some point. Assuming that he did actually work on it, finishing that up would be logical. But who knows, I just hope the whole merch situation doesn't slow things down.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/13 20:28:58 No.1190208
Looks like the patreon is getting close to 4k $3,870 of $4,000 now, with 4k being the animated sprite benchmark...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/13 22:15:32 No.1190226
>>1190208
It jumped to over $3800 very quicky so those may be fake patrons.
And I think he said he was only going to animate the backgrounds, but the animated sprites would be awesome, also I think that the sprites aren't done yet since only Gruff has multiple facial expression sprites as of now and I don't know if thats going to change very soon.

Also does anybody here know what the voting was for? From looking on Bane's Twitter i guess it was for an upcoming update.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/13 22:22:27 No.1190229
>>1190226

If that's true, then he should change the text on his patreon to reflect it, because it currently says sprites -and- illustrations.
>The sprites and illustrations will be animated!

Sprites should be higher priority IMO, especially with Gruff being the only person that has more than a handful of 'em. Plus all of them need more than one outfit, especially off duty police officers.

No idea what he was voting for, though. Next route is a logical assumption.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/13 23:33:09 No.1190263
>>1190226

Voting was whether gruff or kody should be updated next. It's currently 55% gruff 45% kody.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 00:39:04 No.1190291
gruffgruffgruffgruff
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 04:07:56 No.1190336
They'll both get their updates, the vote is pretty much who to work on first.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 04:41:09 No.1190346
No idea how much work would have to go into Kody's update. There're so many different potential scenes at the end of his current route, even giving one for each and every possible choice would be more than the average update's content, let alone following through on multiple...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 05:11:26 No.1190355
>>1190346
I think he would end up striking out the other paths and choosing one to focus on at first. He did the same thing in Andras' route.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 06:00:19 No.1190368
>>1190355

True. Worth noting though, that there is some qualitative difference here. The choices at the end of Kody's route (of which there are six total) are part of Kody's route. While the fugitive choices...

>Truth
>Home
>Love
>Fun
>Andras's D

...Could potentially each be their own route. Given that Aradina shows up if you pick love, it seems possible that all of them (other than going home, which just makes him murder your ass) are their own routes. Although common sense suggests otherwise, as that would kick up the number of paths by quite a bit without associated characters...

Bleh. Just tossing that thought out there.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 11:31:08 No.1190574
>>1190346

I'd imagine the choices don't matter and they just get sidetracked or something.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 15:34:32 No.1190601
>>1190574

Would certainly be consistent with every other choice in the game.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 16:47:15 No.1191174
Can someone post the WIP pic here? pretty please!
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Furrynomous 2016/12/16 10:57:38 No.1191447
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>>1191174
I'm not sure if this is the full and correct WIP image but i got this in my e-mail, and patreon said that i wasn't supposed to get this... oh well

>You recently received an email in error about a post you didn't have access to based on your reward tier.

Edited at 2016/12/16 10:59:03
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Furrynomous 2016/12/18 23:09:28 No.1192627
>>1191447

Well that is...something.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/19 02:39:30 No.1192740
>>1191447
>>1192627
It's most likely an unfinished sprite for Flint.
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Bookwyrm 2016/12/19 13:09:21 No.1192862
>>1192740
That'd be nice, but does the dude even get to speak some lines? From what I remember of the bartender route, you have some idle chat with him, but that is all. Why bother giving him a sprite? Unless he needs to play a bigger role after. Hmm.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/19 13:47:56 No.1192872
>>1192862

Jack mentions him during his route as one of the things he's protecting the MC from, right up there with the Insightful and the Chosen. Think he gets a mention again in Jack's night...7? When he refuses the next contract.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/19 18:07:39 No.1192973
>>1192862

He also talks to you during the library route
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Furrynomous 2016/12/20 01:59:09 No.1193155
>>1192862
He shows up as someone you can talk to in the library route.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/21 04:39:15 No.1193645
Reached the $4000 milestone. Animated sprites ahoy?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/21 04:45:04 No.1193649
>>1193645
Don't get your hopes up.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/22 03:27:28 No.1193919
>>1193645

Lol. No. The $4,000 goal has been reached several times. It means nothing at this point.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/22 03:32:46 No.1193922
>>1193919

Much like your opinion ;3
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Furrynomous 2016/12/25 23:47:54 No.1195469
>>1193922
its not his opinion, is just the facts. The goal has been reached multiple times, but bane never said anything.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/30 14:29:31 No.1197342
So, do you guys think we're gonna get two updates this month, or only one? Might this be the first time Bane only releases one update in a month, or has he done it before?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/30 16:30:04 No.1197369
>>1197342
i think we only will have one as it should like today or lastly tomorrow. anyway, i think we will not have any this month.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/30 19:45:27 No.1197415
my guess is that he's gonna do the double update at the very last moment.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/30 19:53:49 No.1197416
I miss Krane. <3
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Furrynomous 2016/12/31 05:57:34 No.1197652
new update is out but looks like only patreons can downlode it probable an accident someone want to post a link here
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Furrynomous 2016/12/31 06:25:56 No.1197660
Download page has version 0.55 and he hasn't posted a new link anywhere so we're gonna have to wait. Apparently he's having issues with his eyes and has trouble seeing. Here's what he posted on patreon.

Hi there Bane here,

I know I'm way late and I hate doing this but there's a reason why everything is late and awful. This month I've been dealing with iridocyclitis or iritis, which is basically me going blind. I've had it before but not this bad. It's finally going away again (I hope). If not then I'll probably have to get surgery when my retina detaches. Maybe I'll end up with a heart shaped pupil or something weird like that. If you like eye terror then go look it up and find some images or play the fugitive route (yes art imitating life and vice versa).

So what's the plan moving forward? I'm going to blitz out several updates worth of stuff with some of them being free to make up for the lack of content that's available now. I'm sorry my body hates me and is trying to make me go blind. I get to make a lot of eye puns though.

Change Log
+Gruff Night 6
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Furrynomous 2016/12/31 09:17:14 No.1197715
>>1197660
The log got edited to Night 7, and the new download link is up.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/31 16:09:21 No.1197784
Wait, did Vincent just get shanked? Supposedly the knife plunged into an invisible object which started bleeding. I would imagine Vincent would lose his invisibility in that case, though...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/31 20:48:28 No.1197890
>>1197784
It's a possibility. As far as we know only vincent can go invisible. Gruff still hasn't fully recovered from his allergic reaction as he had some trouble breathing when going from the hospital to the police office. But i do like the how he's a bit more affectionate and open with you.

But i'm kinda disappointed in gruff's update it's.....quite lacking. Compared to the other night 7's
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Furrynomous 2017/01/01 07:24:31 No.1198077
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Furrynomous 2017/01/01 07:33:29 No.1198078
>>1198077
did he put the download links?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/01 08:16:02 No.1198084
>>1198077
Wonder if this completes the dialogue of night 7, or. . .. whats new in it - probably another night fuck?

Either way, i'm porking this boar.
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End of Evilgelatin 2017/01/01 08:30:59 No.1198092
>>1198084
it's just to complete night 7's dialogue
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Furrynomous 2017/01/01 08:54:09 No.1198093
>>1198084

I need bottom Gruff. The one thing I wanted since the start
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Furrynomous 2017/01/01 09:37:40 No.1198108
https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame it here
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 00:25:08 No.1198485
Hey guys, noticed something unusual. Most of the disturbances and outsiders appear on the north road. However, when MC arrives, he arrives on the south road. I guess this is even more evidence that MC comes from the different side of Blackgate than all the other inhabitants.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 02:57:11 No.1198716
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>>1198485
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 05:55:57 No.1198864
Aside from that, what do you guys think of gruff's update? Personally i loved it. Wish it was more intimate than sexual. Like krane's path.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/03 00:34:47 No.1199275
>>1198864
I enjoyed it too. Staying at Gruff's apartment was definitely the best option. If Vincent did get shanked in the hospital route, that would have severe consequences in the future. The only thing that has been really bugging me is that we still do not know what MC's true power is. I know we'll eventually find out, but we're still so far away from a completed route. The waiting is killing me.

Though, as I have gone back to analyze what we've been given so far, I have developed a new theory. I believe Gears was possessed by a Watcher. This would explain the red eyes, and why Gruff was so insistent that Gears was not himself the night he massacred. It was a convenient way for the Watchers to stop the librarians, who serve the Chosen via Vekk (the Chosen's minion who has a direct connection to the Library via the basement), Andras, and Sooth (who writes the red notes communicated to him via the Chosen). The Watchers wish to eliminate the Chosen, presumably because they are connected to the Eternal in some way (which is why eyes started appearing in Charlie's wings in Jack's night 7), or perhaps because they require more edgeless stones for trade, as Eterni theorized in night 5, which would require the Eternal consuming Blackgate again.

Also, I was going through Gruff's route again, and I noticed that there is now a way to meet Sooth. In order to do so, you must go to the bar on night 2, and refuse Gruff's offer to take you home. It opens a new dialogue option on night 3.

If you go to the library or home on Gruff's night 2, go to the bar on night 3 and refuse Gruff's offer to take you home, you end up talking to Alin about MC and Gruff.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/03 03:33:29 No.1199323
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>>1199275
Finally someone to talk to about the gruff's update. I need to get the fangirl-itis out of my system. I adore the home option with gruff, you get to see more of his softer side. Gruff consoling you in the shower, taking MC to his spot to make him feel better. He definitely likes you.

Also it is quite interesting that you bring up gears, and thinking about charlie and the watchers it seems quite likely that he could have been possessed. I speculated he was being possessed when gruff gave me his Input on that night. Maybe it was a watcher, only the future can tell.

Also, vincent getting shanked during your attack in the hospital is very likely, he's the only one(so far) who can turn invisible. But why would he follow MC? Did he suspect of him betraying the group or is it because he wanted to spy on Plox and Rotis? Sadly we're not going to get the answers now.

I wonder how longer till this game will be completed overall. As Majority of the characters are at Night 6-8 and there are 13 days in general.

Edited at 2017/01/03 03:34:11
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Furrynomous 2017/01/03 04:21:12 No.1199338
>>1199323
>Did he suspect of him betraying the group or is it because he wanted to spy on Plox and Rotis?

I think it's more likely that he was watching over Gruff at the hospital, or at the very least, noticed the lack of activity in Blackgate and figured it related to MC in some way, so he tracked him/ watched over him. I don't think he suspected MC of treason nor was following Plox and Rotis, considering they were seen entering the building after the stabbing.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/03 04:41:07 No.1199347
>>1199338
ah, i see. It makes sense.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 19:12:45 No.1200550
Bets on when the next CG sex scene will be?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 00:02:22 No.1200647
>>1200550
Probably when Darkgem returns, and we don't know when that will be. They said that the new artists aren't going to be doing sex CGs.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 04:45:56 No.1200742
I've been reading through Jack's route again, and I hope that Bane allows us to stay platonic with Jack.

Also, when Jack is talking about names of people out to get MC, he mentions Roshal. Who could that be and what do you think their significance is? I have a feeling it is the other hit man in town, considering he mentioned Flint, and there are 3 hit men in Blackgate.
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Grumpy-Woof 2017/01/08 16:30:27 No.1201556
Does anyone know if we'll have an opportunity in the future to romance Malo? I'm getting some hints that Malo might like mc but is trying to hide it. I really am hoping for some intimacy with him as on the current build (0.57) Malo with cry on mc's shoulder when things seem hopeless and even give some hints to him liking mc somewhat. Plus when he tries to cheer mc up it's the most adorable thing, no matter the harsh words he stays positive and Malo is a fucking star, I love him

Also I'm feeling pretty damn sad about Krane, his route doesn't really explore much else other than Krane him self and his urges and the relationship with MC, and the story overall is not explored by the player as it would be if say you chose the bartender route. I'm super sad too cause no matter what I do I can't prevent Krane from getting mauled and dying ;o;) I hope to goodness he won't just straight up die on me cause I don't know how I will continue his route otherwise!!!

Alin's route on the other hand is by far the easiest and most light hearted up until the point where Gruff gets poisoned and shit really hits the fan. I'm not too crazy about Alin and his overall really miserable personality ,but later on he starts to become more serious and less kind of desperate. Like he's still quite flirty but it's not as gross with his being less drunk I suppose, I don't know.

I still like Alin and maybe as the story progresses I'll like him even more but so far Krane and Malo really have my attention.

Oh and Gruff is cool too but somehow doesn't really appeal too much to me, maybe it's cause of his constant belching I don't know. The sex scene was okay, but I was kind of put off by the fact he masturbated while mc was in the shower like what was that all about was he not satisfied? X'D

Also, final note here, the library route is by far the most irritating for me cause Vincent is fucking vicious man! Holly fuck like I am just not able to like him, no matter how much I try to tolerate him he always comes off rude and extremely apathetic. And He's just not for me personally but some people enjoy him so that's cool...
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Bookwyrm 2017/01/08 17:22:19 No.1201569
>>1200550

Probably as soon as Bane stops whining about his skull-fuck borne eye problems.

Edited at 2017/01/08 17:22:35
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Furrynomous 2017/01/08 19:15:23 No.1201596
>>1201569

Who all has CG sex scenes?
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Bookwyrm 2017/01/08 20:15:30 No.1201606
Jack: 1 CG Sex Scene
Rotis: 1 CG Sex Scene
Krane: 2 CG Sex Scenes (3 technically, different positions for the same scene)
Gruff: 1 CG Sex Scene
Alin: 2 CG Sex Scenes
Vincent: 1 CG Sex Scene

Edited at 2017/01/08 20:15:53
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Furrynomous 2017/01/08 21:04:39 No.1201637
>>1201606
Yes, and technically Rotis and Gruff have 2 sex scenes but there is no art for them since Darkgem is still on a break, also you kinda had sex with Kitako but also no art for him even though that happend ages ago.

And yes, i know you are talking about who has the art.

Edited at 2017/01/08 21:06:41
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Furrynomous 2017/01/08 22:59:16 No.1201682
>>1201556
For me i feel the opposite on how you feel about Alin and Gruff. Alin is alright but he's too much of an emotional wreck/slut for me to to get interested in, or take too seriously.

With gruff, at first you expected him to be a quiet and serious type, but he's really quirky and a bit socially awkward, from having the not so best table manners(As MC also decides not to have the best table manners when he eats with him, i found that adorable) to lacking the confidence to think he's not worth MC's time. Over all i find him very relate able over the rest of the cast. Also, there are reasons why he didn't go all out on night 6, and the car scene in night 7 definitely proved so. But to each, their own.

I also agree with you on Vincent, too bitchy and condescending for my likes. Also the BS he pulled on night 5 and 6 made me really dislike him.

Malo is the only construction route worth playing IMO
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Furrynomous 2017/01/08 23:09:32 No.1201685
>>1201606
Plox/Leraje: 1 CG sex scene / 1 CG sex scene
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Wulfy 2017/01/09 00:47:15 No.1201737
>>1201682
Alin gets better the later you get in his story.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/09 02:49:36 No.1201776
>>1201737
I know he does get better but doesn't do him enough justice.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/09 03:07:58 No.1201777
>>1200742
Well it would ahve to be introduced earlier in the story since you've already had parent/child play sex

Which is a real turn off personally, I also hope he later adds a platonic route cuz otherwise Im liking Jack's route.
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Grumpy-Woof 2017/01/09 10:50:15 No.1201989
>>1201682
I see what you mean, Gruff is definitely cute in his own way and maybe I haven't given him a fair chance, I still remain open to exploring his route more as soon as more nights roll out...
I understand what you are trying to say about Alin but he's a slut BECAUSE he's such an emotional wreck, he's defeated, sad and doesn't know what to do, he needs someone to care about and I guess he just can't find the strength. He needs a push and I honestly pity him ;v;)
But he definitely recovers quick and I'm sure the player will be able to help Alin out to make him a better monster.

>>1201737
I agree Alin does get better as the story progresses, I don't mind his flirty personality and him being a hot as fuck bottom is just irresistible to me. I find sober Alin super hot and I can't wait to get more into his story, something tells me Alin is gonna have a shitton sex scenes. I really hope we will be able to explore him in a more romantic way too, not just sexual I doubt mc ould want to just remain Alin's fuck buddy, I WOULD FUCKING NOT!!!

>>1201777
Ah yeah I agree I overall don't like Jack in a sexual way and the fact he compares you to his son and then you have sex is really unsettling to me. Plus his sex scene is...not my favorite HE EVEN PUTS A MASK ON YOU SO YOU CAN LOOK LIKE A DOG LIKE IF THAT'S NOT A SIGN HE WANTS TO FUCK HIS SON I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!

I restarted Krane's route yesterday and was tempted to let him pull his teeth off in hopes that he might not die if that happens, but from the Wiki guides it seems that it makes no change (yet) as when the outsider attacks it just goes to the TBC screen.

I wish to goodness he doesn't die and something can be done. But from the game it seems he's been badly injured and killing the outsider must have definitely taken a lot out if him. So I'm hopeful but still very concerned, if he dies I don't think I'll be able to continue his route...

Edited at 2017/01/09 10:51:23
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Furrynomous 2017/01/09 15:15:30 No.1202021
>>1201989
Being into incest play doesn't equate to actually wanting to fuck your son.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/09 15:53:52 No.1202031
>>1202021

What does it equate to then?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 00:45:45 No.1202180
>>1202031
It's a fetish on and by itself, it's kind of taboo so it's attractive to many people, but it's the idea itself that's attractive, not its practical implications in reality.

As comparison, one could very well be into mature men, but that wouldn't mean you'd like to fuck your own father just because he is one, just like wanting to fuck one's "own son" doesn't equal wanting to fuck your actual son in real life, it's just an attractive "forbidden" scenario to spice things up.

I agree that Jack is a bit creepy about it though, but that's just because Jack is kinda creepy overall :/
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 04:42:40 No.1202237
>>1201989
I'm pretty sure you have to let him pull his teeth for him to survive the route.

Especially since he does it to himself if you aren't on his route
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Wulfy 2017/01/10 04:57:37 No.1202240
>>1202180
I get the fetish and find it weird, personally.

I like many of the other things in Jack's route. I don't practice puppy play and don't have any interest in the head space of it, but I find the sexual connection of dominance and ownership arousing, which is why I like Jack's route/sexual activity and the idea of being knotted.

Separately, Rotis' sex scene is pretty well written. A bit more variety in word choice is my main critique, but the rest of that night is sort of a downer.

It's pretty unsettling that I see several good potential endings from Rotis' route and none are happy.

The ending I think is most fitting given the latest conversation in the abandoned bar is heartbreaking BUT doesn't include a death.

We'll have to see.

As for Krane, I dislike the idea that weakening the bat is the only way to keep him together. I see that he does it to himself, but it ruins the character arch since he does break them on other routes. That means that learning to control himself better on his route is the more "correct" choice from a narrative perspective, so I think that means the incomplete story would be ass if Krane does just die there.

I'm not saying Deus ex Machina, just saying the story would suffer for Krane to immediately die so soon after becoming...."better."

Unless the story for Krane's route literally ends within the next night, but then it feel short.

Eh.
*shrugs*
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 04:57:57 No.1202241
>>1202237

What does him doing it off-route have to do with anything? We don't know if he survives off-route either yet until some other cop gets past day 7.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 07:02:58 No.1202285
>>1199323

How do i get that experience choice, going to gruffs house - on which night?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 07:24:19 No.1202318
>>1202285
When gruff gets poisoned on night 6 have Alin take him to his apartment. Then proceed to either press Gryz for Info or Interrogate Kody.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 19:35:15 No.1202462
Team Evil Cult: Plox, Rotis, Longma

Team Elite 1%: Andras, Aradina, Jack, Gryz, Vekk

Team Get Me the Fuck Out of Here: Kody, Charlie

Team Literally the Only Good Guys: Vincent, Alin, Gruff

Team Coldsteel the Hedgehog: Malo, Chrome, Eterni

Team I-Have-No-Idea-How-Bane-is-Going-to-Tie-Them-In-For-the-End: Helle, Krane
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Furrynomous 2017/01/10 20:00:14 No.1202487
>>1202462

Jack is an iffy placement there, given that he takes bribes from Plox. Otherwise pretty accurate.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 01:05:48 No.1202695
>>1202462
Malo belongs more in the "Get me the fuck out" team. I don't know about Crome and Eterni though, they're shitty colorful dragon OCs and there's no way I'm supposed to care for them.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 04:45:13 No.1202739
>>1201989

Alin definitely seems to be getting more genuinely intimate with the MC, considering the spooning scenes (which were fucking adorable), him proposing to the MC that he stay with him in Blackgate on Night 5 (if you opt out of the second sex scene), and his assertion next morning (night) that he didn't want the MC to think that he was only being used like a toy. I love that this seems to be the way Alin's story is progressing too since I absolutely LOVE Alin, and hope that he can find happiness eventually with the MC (after he kicks ass as a librarian, of course). I also enjoy the fact that he is sort of opening up to the MC about his previous traumatic experiences with the Library Massacre and the loss of Flauros, and the fact that the MC seems to be intervening more when it comes to Alin's alcoholism. Maybe Alin's route will have a happy ending after all? As for the sex scenes I don't think there will be too many more to be honest, as his route only has 6 nights left and since he is confirmed to be exclusively a bottom, there aren't many more "positions" or variations that can be illustrated. I can imagine he will have one or two more however.

>>1202462

I'm not sure about Krane, but Helle's route still leads to you aligning with Gruff, Alin and Vincent, attending the funeral and discovering Sooth's note. You will probably end up aligned with "The Good Guys" as you put it on Helle's route, but that also depends on how you handle her attacking her neighbor after he kills off her garden. It would be interesting to see what happens if you can stop her from killing him, but if not I imagine Krane might make an appearance again on Helle's route, though I'm not sure what would go down if that were the case.

Edited at 2017/01/11 04:46:45
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Grumpy-Woof 2017/01/11 09:13:36 No.1202859
>>1202739
I agree with all of this, but how do you know Alin has six nights left? Are the nights layed out for everyone? Kind of like Morenatsu where you have 31 days (in theory)? If so that's kind of concerning cause either a lot or too little could happen in 6 nights. Unless you are saying each character has a different number of nights...(?)

>>1202462
TEAM GOOD GUYS HELL YEAH!
I agree that Helle and Krane are by far the most unrelated characters to the story, you do very little to discover more about the eternal and the town with Krane, aside from you facing the angry mob and all that. Helle kills a guy cause he committed plant murder or whatever and she gets bunched up with Krane and the player. I feel like those two aren't sort of written well enough to connect them better with the rest of what's happening or maybe it's done on purpose. I mean the construction route characters help discover more about blackgate than Krane and Helle combined.

>>1202695
Malo is literally Bae he's friggind cute as fuck. Eterni for me is okay, he's kind of a jerk at first (still capable though) but warms up to you eventually. He just wants some recognition! I don't mind him, in fact I absolutely do not hate him, he's cool in his own kind of way.
Chrome on the other hand of a fucking cunt, and playing his route made me more frustrated and stressed out than even Vincent's route did! At least Vincent HAS to be an ass cause he's got so much on his plate. Chrome just wants status and ,money. Rotis is kind of the same in that he remains distant but even he fucking warms up to you eventually in his own messed up way. So far Chrome, Rotis and Plox are my least preferred routes

Does anyone know when the next public update will be? This frigging VN is literally sucking me in and i need to know more!
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Bookwyrm 2017/01/11 18:26:26 No.1203370
>>1202462
I'd really place Rotis under the "Get me the fuck out of here" team. He's really more concerned about going home than to be loyal to Plox.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 21:50:35 No.1203500
Alright, so what I'm discovering is that it seems like a few folks change faction/teams depending on whether you are with them. Ya'll were telling me Helle shows up at the graveyard with Team Literally the Only Good Guys, but on my Gruff route she is not seen or mentioned. Jack also turns from Team Evil Cult to Team Elite 1% on his route if with the player. I can't say I've played Rotis either, but in all other routes, he is definitive cult-guy.

Edited at 2017/01/11 21:52:30
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 22:22:44 No.1203519
>>1203500

Rotis definitely just wants to escape
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How do i advance Furrynomous 2017/01/11 23:01:38 No.1203528
How do i advance to any route? My game stops at night 6 at max...
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Furrynomous 2017/01/12 01:03:14 No.1203591
>>1202859

The game is slated to be 13 nights long and each character's route will be 13 nights long as well. At least that's what it said on the Tumblr page if I recall correctly.

>>1203519
>>1203500
Rotis definitely wants to get out but that is part of the reason he is part of the Insightful, as Plox promised to let him and the MC leave should their uprising be successful.

Edited at 2017/01/12 01:08:07
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Furrynomous 2017/01/12 06:21:46 No.1203675
>>1203528
Depends on the character. Some characters go beyond Night 6, others don't.

Its still under development, so none of the routes are finished yet
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Bookwyrm 2017/01/13 04:00:20 No.1203964
I hope that Krane dies in all routes.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/13 05:18:57 No.1203983
>>1203964

I hope you die.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/01/13 08:10:20 No.1204026
>>1203964
Samefag >_>

Edited at 2017/01/13 19:12:57
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Furrynomous 2017/01/13 15:08:39 No.1204264
>>1204026

...did you just samefag yourself...while simultaneously being a tripfag?

are you mentally deficient or something?
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Noctis the generic wolf 2017/01/13 16:22:07 No.1204281
I think Krane should fall, but that make a more impact to the story than letting him be alive. There's going to be a deeper connection about the real human emotions through the MC. Now, if our bat is alive, I think it's going to be more difficult to us to say goodbye at the end of the game (thinking that we should be on Terra instead of Krane's vampiric world. That and the fact that he suffers a gargoyle syndrome.)

I really love Krane, but it's the dramatic scene that the story needs.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/01/13 19:01:25 No.1204348
>>1204264
I called out the guy who's using my same nickname to be obnoxious, whilst being a tripfag to distinguish myself from said guy.
Are YOU mentally deficient?

Edited at 2017/01/13 19:13:19
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Furrynomous 2017/01/14 16:51:28 No.1205056
Anyone know what happened to the Thursday update?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/14 20:24:43 No.1205172
>>1205056

I wouldn't expect much.

Between Darkgem being out of the picture for the foreseeable future, Bane's 'health issues', and this ridiculous 'contest' (?) they're doing to solicit short stories from fans to try and come up with believable developments for/endings to the story (and allowing OC self-inserts so you know it's going to be a shitshow), it feels like it's all downhill from here.

Edited at 2017/01/14 20:25:47
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Furrynomous 2017/01/14 23:23:43 No.1205316
>>1205172

Agreed.
It takes way too long, it goes nowhere, it costed around $100.000. Enjoyable? Barely
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Furrynomous 2017/01/15 02:17:19 No.1205419
>>1205056
>Hey guys, the update should be coming out any second now!

2 days later

>We're not sure when that update is going to come out

This is like the 100th time the update has been announced and then delayed. There's no point in periodic status updates when they can't adhere to their schedule.

I'm willing to bet that Bane suffers from anxiety which is why he procrastinates on the updates. Should we get an Adderall donation drive going for him?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/15 04:29:48 No.1205450
i was think we need a bunch of hot guys to go rape him wile talking about how hot he is to help his confidence...just kidding but really this is ridiculous
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Furrynomous 2017/01/15 05:08:21 No.1205461
How hard is it to add content to a visual novel? It's like Kemo Coliseum. The entire game engine is already built, but there's barely any content.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/15 06:07:44 No.1205509
not really hard just a lot of code still he waits till the day of the update or hours before the release to do it and he seems to have self confidence issues
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Furrynomous 2017/01/16 23:50:01 No.1206800
>>1205461
Just saying, but the name "Visual NOVEL" might give you a hint about what's so hard about adding content.

I'm not trying to excuse the updates being late, but writing actually good stuff is hard. You need ideas, inspiration, and lots of time. I've talked to Bane on Discord a bit, and even after updates the bloke never seems that proud of his writing, he never thinks it's good enough, but he can't always take all the time he needs.

Again, I'm not trying to excuse everything bad that happened and could happen to this project, but Blackgate really seems like a small project that blew out of proportion, and now it's putting a lot of pressure over Bane and he's struggling with it.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 00:16:12 No.1206811
>>1206800
i could buy what you say if he wasnt working on a second game before finishing the first.
there is not a single patreon project with a good pace since it is much more profitable to just drag everything.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 00:23:24 No.1206845
>>1206811
As I understand, bane oversees the other game not works directly with it.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 05:00:28 No.1207107
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 08:14:29 No.1207134
>>1207107
thats really fuckin cute.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 09:01:09 No.1207145
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>>1207134

I have seen a lot of art of Alin recently.

Edited at 2017/01/17 09:11:51
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 09:30:14 No.1207152
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>>1207134
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 09:31:23 No.1207153
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>>1207134
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 09:40:22 No.1207155
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>>1207134
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 09:47:45 No.1207157
>>1207145
Alin is practically the poster boy for BlackGate, so don't be surprised. I wish there was some krane or gruff fan art going. Better yet, i should draw some Gruff stuff.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 12:09:06 No.1207176
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>>1207145
Can you blame them?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/17 23:49:13 No.1207366
>>1207176
I want to protect that smile
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 01:38:32 No.1207408
echo deserves as much fan art/recognition that it needs :(
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 02:18:17 No.1207419
>>1207408
I find it sad how Echo has substantially more content each update and is moving towards a timely completion, actual rewards for patrons, yet only has 1/6 the monthly earnings of Blackgate without much fan appreciation.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 03:02:30 No.1207428
>>1206811
Is he? On what game?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 03:03:31 No.1207429
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>>1207176

Of course I don't blame them. Alin is precious and pure. <3

Edited at 2017/01/18 03:05:07
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 03:44:57 No.1207438
Does rotis have a sex scene yet or am I gonna have to wait yet another year?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 04:00:32 No.1207442
>>1207438
He does but it doesn't have art yet the last time I checked.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 04:29:23 No.1207450
>>1207429
I need a poster of this~
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AlinUrAnnoying Furrynomous 2017/01/18 11:26:07 No.1207528
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>>1207429
Hey, someone actually saved my old collage of Alin! Here's some more I made.
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AlinUrAnnoying Furrynomous 2017/01/18 11:26:08 No.1207529
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>>1207528
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AlinUrAnnoying Furrynomous 2017/01/18 11:26:09 No.1207530
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>>1207528
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AlinUrAnnoying Furrynomous 2017/01/18 11:30:43 No.1207532
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>>1207530
Remember how Bane said he'd actually print some of the valentine cards fans made? I was so surprised (and happy) when he actually did!

Edited at 2017/01/18 11:30:57
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 17:37:11 No.1207600
>>1207532

Nice! I saw your collages on another imageboard (mgchan I think).
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Grumpy-Woof 2017/01/19 12:42:19 No.1207911
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New update is out! (0.58)

Edited at 2017/01/19 12:44:12
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 14:33:40 No.1207928
>>1207911
The update was interesting and so much for the free update Bane promised.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 15:49:16 No.1207937
>>1207928

That is the second time he said he would do free updates and then didn't do it.

Safe to say he is full of shit.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 16:30:36 No.1207949
File: Alin_u18chan.png - (284.83kb, 561x530, Alin.png)
Even Akinator knows him!
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 17:12:56 No.1207958
>>1207937

One of several reasons I stopped supporting a while ago.

>>1207949

It's time to stop posting.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 18:35:32 No.1207981
>>1207911
why is rotis getting another update so soon?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 18:47:44 No.1207986
>>1207981
It's annoyng that police routes are getting updated so frequently, the last 10 updates have been mostly police routes, meanwhile ( Kody, Eterni ) are still on night 5.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 20:45:16 No.1208009
>>1207986
As someone who wants to see this project completed, my opinion is that Bane should write whatever character route he feels like writing and then go back for other characters (or continue with the same character) as long as he keeps the flow and don't lose it.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 20:56:59 No.1208012
>>1207986

The better/more interesting characters get more development time, both because it keeps a larger number of people happy (and supporting the patreon) and because I would imagine they're less tedious to write updates for.

Let's face it, blackgate has way too many god damn characters, and would have greatly benefited from relegating some of the less interesting ones to supporting roles early on in development. More isn't always better.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 21:10:56 No.1208016
>>1208012
Yep the game has way too many characters and the more popular routes get much more development time than the unpopular ones. With so many characters development time goes way up. It's not surprising that Echo is hitting the 50% mark with their characters even though they started much later than Blackgate

Super popular
Alin
Krane
Rotis

Popular
Vincent
Gruff
Malo
Jack

Meh
Chrome
Eterni
Longma
Kitako
Plox/Laraje(Might be wrong on this one)

Helle tier
Helle(I actually like her route)

Then there is the extra 3 routes which include Flint, Aradina, and Andras. Honestly those 3 should be supporting characters more than anything
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 23:33:12 No.1208055
>>1208016
>Helle tier
... poor helle...
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 23:38:56 No.1208057
>>1208016
But some of the less "popular" characters may become more popular in a future update, when I started playing Blackgate I was also really interested in Alin, then played Krane's route and thought he was the best, then Bane changed some of the construction characters routes and Eterni became my number one and Malo became second and some of the characters like Jack and Plox fell down on my list because Jack is weird for me and Plox is just an asshole.

Also when you say the game has to many characters I actually think it's weird that most of the characters don't really talk to anybody besides you or mabye Alin. It's like they don't have any friends. Mabye I played to much of Mass Effect and a lot of characters and conversations is just normal for me.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/19 23:58:26 No.1208065
>>1208057
dont know... i am really into Laraje's asshole... XD
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 00:37:53 No.1208075
>>1207911
Hmm, I wonder if Leraje prevails in all routes?

>>1207958
I set a limit for dollars given per month, I think this is a more fair thing to do. But I still wonder what he does with all the money he gets... it's not like we're getting new art with every update. Hell, Echo has been getting new sprites/ changes/ short stories and they get far less money per month.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 01:18:34 No.1208084
>>1208075
Yet everyone keeps bitching about how ugly the sprites look in echo. But aside from that yeah, their content updates quite frequently.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 03:48:07 No.1208118
>>1208084

The reason for the bitching is often because they make changes to sprites that don't really need changing. But, from their perspective they're forced to due to the revolving glass door of artists joining and leaving the project over time.

Blackgate, on the other hand, simply stopped getting new sprites altogether, and now that Darkgem (who is pretty much responsible for how everyone pictures their favorite character at this point if we're being honest) is both not working on Blackgate stuff and is even thinking about giving up doing smut altogether to pursue a more professional path with his art...which he should, if that's the way he wants to go. Dude's really talented. Though it would definitely hurt to know that we won't be getting any future Blackgate scenes brought to life as well as he was able to.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 05:05:40 No.1208165
>>1208118
If only someone could get Kaji to do future work on Blackgate, that's the only way the quality would be equal to or better than Darkgem's.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 07:30:07 No.1208197
>>1208118
Did Darkgem say he was thinking about leaving , because if he was that would be horrible for the game, because I think he was doing art for the game for free I think and not many quality artists would probably want to do that. But again considering Bane just takes Patreon money he shouldn't have a problem for paying for a CG scene per month for all scenes that are currently missing.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 07:42:40 No.1208214
>>1208165
Well... most of the higher quality artists could do scenes for the game if they try do draw them realistically and by realistically I mean anatomically correct-ish and not weird looking.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 08:11:48 No.1208217
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>>1208197
Yep, we're lacking alot of sprites. Gruff only have about half of his, the others only got 1 and i heard jack was sleighted to get his current sprite update to make him look a but older and grizzled. Then there is darkgem who is going to pursue a more professional career(and i do agree he should, his work is top notch) i do feel like DG will jump off the Blackgate boat soon which makes me worry about the state of blackgate?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 23:00:48 No.1208379
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>>1208217
So does that mean the BG team is without any scene OR sprite artists? I went and checked the Patreon status update and not much info is given other than they need some personal time and they are looking for new artists. Which concerns me. Not only cause it's a pity to lose DarkGem since his art is beautiful but also if they get a new sprite artist they'd need to do a complete sprite overhaul again and they have already redone the sprites once.

This whole story is giving me Breeding Season flashbacks and I do not like it.

Everything seems to be a mess right now but I hope things stabilize soon cause I really do not want this project to fail or get cancelled!

The worse part is we are barely given enough info by the team and the supporters are left in the dark not knowing the future of the project they are supporting with their hard earned money.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 23:16:31 No.1208385
>>1208118
wait, is he really leaving? source?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/20 23:35:48 No.1208402
>>1208197

There is NO WAY in hell Darkgem was doing art for Blackgate for free. Absolutely not. I wont throw out a $ figure because I have no idea what he usually charges, but I'd have to imagine it's quite a bit for this type of work. Granted, with the amount of $ the BG patreon has been pulling in, paying Darkgem his asking price really should not have been an issue, but there is zero chance he was doing it pro bono. The quality of that last set of images he did for Krane were absolutely top notch in terms of quality and attention to detail. Blew me away.

>>1208385

I can't be bothered to find it but Bane made a post on the patreon a while back saying Darkgem was 'taking a break' from the project, which as we know often translates into 'leaving'.

If anything it's more that Darkgem recently posted on his Twitter that he's having doubts about continuing to draw furry smut for commissions, and wants to pursue a more professional career path, that leads me to think there's a good chance he wont be doing any more work for BG...but that's pure speculation on my part.

Also: please do not go and pester Darkgem about this. I don't want to sic a bunch of desperate BG fans on his twitter lol

Edited at 2017/01/20 23:38:07
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Furrynomous 2017/01/21 00:05:05 No.1208413
>>1208402

Uh, no. He's just taking a break, exactly as he said. Which is corroborated by Bane replying to this exact thread.

>>1177241
>Darkgem is not gone for good, he's just on hiatus for a bit. He'll return in due time (i have a projected time frame). I've reached out to veramundis and Darkgem is reaching out to someone as well. The work that's going to be done isn't explicit.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/21 00:27:26 No.1208419
>>1208413


You seem to be missing the point, so let me spell it out for you: On top of not currently working on Blackgate, Darkgem recently said he doesn't want to draw porn forever, and is considering pursuing another path.

Nobody ever said he was definitively done with Blackgate, but that's a pretty relevant development that only increases the likelihood that he won't be returning to the project, don't you think?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/21 00:37:12 No.1208427
>>1208419
He definitely has the skill to pursue character design if he wants to follow a more professional path, so if he goes down it, he probably won't be doing much other work.

Although I wonder if having previous works as a furry porn artist would cut said paths out.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/21 00:49:07 No.1208434
>>1208419

Why yes, because doing the occasional piece for Blackgate is totally mutually exclusive with a change of primary focus. There really isn't any "point" to miss here, Darkgem has not come out and said he's done and all prior accounts have him on record that he's just taking a break.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/21 01:32:39 No.1208444
>>1208427

... I would imagine the hope is that he's retained enough anonymity that he wouldn't be associated with, ahem, certain portfolios of past work. It is possible someone could recognize his style and add 2 and 2, sure, but then...well, the question would become, how did they recognize his style? lol
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 20:39:46 No.1209276
>>1208419
Darkgem has also stated that he loves drawing adult art.
If he does end up getting a professional career, odds are he'll come to his senses and realize
"Oh shit, basically every other artist also does porn"
And come back to it at some point.
Cheetahpaws and Anti Dev are both art teachers and they still draw smut. I'm sure we'll be fine
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 22:30:26 No.1209313
>>1209276
>art teacher? you mean like "hey class today i'm gonna teach you how to color" kind of art teacher? i can understand cheetahpaws but anti_dev?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 22:55:41 No.1209325
>>1209313
I don't know where cheetahpaws teaches but iirc anti dev either teaches at a rec center or a community college
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 23:07:36 No.1209337
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If anyone is wondering who would be a good replacer for Dargem I have just the person, I'm sure he would charge for it, and he deserves money for his art.

I mean this guy fuck I love this guy I really think he deserves more recognition for his skills.

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/angel27/
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 23:07:37 No.1209338
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>>1209337
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 23:07:38 No.1209339
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>>1209337
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 23:07:40 No.1209340
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>>1209337
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Furrynomous 2017/01/22 23:32:01 No.1209352
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 00:03:15 No.1209383
>>1209337
>>1209338
>>1209339
>>1209340

None of those are really a fit for Blackgate's aesthetic, honestly. Which is the most important thing for Bane.

>>1177241

Though moot, as at least presently, Darkgem is not officially out of the sexymaking and the only thing Bane is looking for is the background stuff and perhaps sprites (?)
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 04:08:01 No.1209471
>>1209383
He already have a guy for sprites. But we havent gotten any new sprites for the game since god knows when. All we really know is that he's currently looking for a background person. I personally think Darkgem can fill both background and CG roles.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 04:15:28 No.1209495
>>1209471

I know that he has a guy for sprites already, but like you said...we haven't gotten any new sprites in a while. Hell if I know why, it's not as though in every case an entirely new model need be made. BG needs things as simple as a new shirt and pants on all of the cops when they're off duty and boom. New expressions and such would be nice, which does necessitate repositioning of body parts, but honestly. Unless Bane wants entirely new sprites for characters and has been holding off on variations of existing ones for that reason, I don't quite understand why they're not consistently part of updates unless he was looking for a new guy to do it or the current guy is unreliable.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 05:29:46 No.1209516
>>1209495
yeah, it has been some time since we got sprites. Plus i dont feel that gruff(Who have a decent portion of his sprites) sprite set is complete, he's missing emotions such as sadness/melancholy, shock, and enraged. Others only got a shiny new sprite coat and never got touched in the sprite department again(Laraje, jack, Rotis). One complaint i do have about the sprites would be that their eyes are too small and it's kinda hard to make out what emotion they're giving off(This mostly applies to gruff)
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Wulfy 2017/01/23 06:11:44 No.1209526
>>1209383
Not starting a flame war intentionally
(maybe I am)
but it's more than aesthetic. Those other artists are SUCH a downgrade from Darkgem.

It looks...awkwardly flat and yet overly shaded. Like he doesn't (yet?) understand perspective very well. Also, those genitals are just flat out not appealing.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 11:32:20 No.1209629
>>1209471
>>1209495
>>1209516
In update 0.57 on the preview type screen with Gruff he says "will you put those two new sprites in?" , so apparently there are new sprites that he still didn't put in and I'm assuming that one of them is the new alligator sprite that was a work in proggres.

And speaking of multiple expression sprites, Gruff got his like 41+ updates ago on update 0.17 and that was almost 2 years ago so I don't know why it's taking so long to get them done for at least one more character.

Also Bane said that Mr.E ( current sprite artist ) is also on hiatus like Darkgem so that's also probably why we haven't seen more new sprites.

Edit: fuckinslothlin is their background artist so they have 3 arists for the game.
>>1209526
The closest one to Darkgem would be Null-ghost in my opinion.

Edited at 2017/01/23 11:40:18
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 12:26:43 No.1209659
>>1209629
>The closest one to Darkgem is NG
Don't mind me, just holding my laughter.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 13:19:13 No.1209679
>>1209659
What? Speaking of quality and detail they are very similar, both of them draw ridiculous looking art but when needed Darkgem draws "realistic looking" art like Blackgate's sex scenes, i bet Null-ghost could do that too.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/23 14:42:30 No.1209698
>>1208444
I remember him giving an interview not so long ago, and if I remember correctly he said he was british and a few other things about himself.
He also said he did show his smut to his teachers at his college, and that they were very impressed.
So he's not as anonymous as he could be, but maybe it won't be a problem.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/24 03:58:06 No.1209979
Did anybody attend the panel? Hopefully somebody posts a summary...
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Furrynomous 2017/01/25 02:46:01 No.1210373
This fanfic contest...I mean, what the fuck. Let me see if I have this right:

-Titled "Blackgate: What happens next?" so presumably the stories should begin at some point in the sequence of events that have already taken place in the VN, and then attempt to tell a plausible story that advances the plot into unknown territory.
-Must be no longer than 12,000 words (really? I realize this might sound like a lot but that is like, nothing.)
-Accepts OC self-inserts
-Accepts attempts to guess at the ending of Blackgate
-The reward for having your submission chosen is a printed copy of your story and the others that are selected, and you give up any exclusive rights to your story when you hand it over, so Bane & co. will be keeping all the $ from other peoples' stories that they sell.

How...strange. Can't help but feel like it's just an excuse to farm people for ideas for future updates to the VN while making a few bucks on the side.

And yet, I still feel annoyingly compelled to submit something, if only just to combat the inevitable influx of cringeworthy, sparkle-dragon-self-insert fanfics. Though, I'd probably dedicate way too much time to trying to make it agree in tone and theme and factual consistency with the established lore of Blackgate (while still taking a few creative liberties) that I feel like Bane would take offense, as if we're trying to emulate or outdo him, or presuming to know where he wants to take the story for any given character(s). The length requirement is a total bummer, though. Shit, I already wrote an outline for the plot just to get thoughts on paper and that alone is 2,000 words.

Really odd situation, all around.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/25 03:56:26 No.1210387
>>1210373
The "OC insertion" part is what worries me if Bane is gonna use those fanfics for the game. I hope the OCs will stay out of the actual game.

And I don't really know about Bane using fanfics as inspiration for later updates. It feels like he's out of ideas.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/25 04:07:10 No.1210394
>>1210387

Oh, don't worry about that. Bane would actually have to get sprites made for them if that was the case. Given that there are barely any for original characters, fat chance of that happening.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/26 02:08:31 No.1210777
>>1210373
Speaking of rewards, do you think the halloween art contest winner will ever receive his?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/26 02:21:42 No.1210782
>>1210777
I wonder the same thing
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Furrynomous 2017/01/26 13:55:55 No.1210982
I've only played Gruff's route, and I'm already confused as hell.
Someone has to make a flowchart for every choice... -_-
Makes me wonder how big this game will be when it's finished.
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Noctis the generic wolf 2017/01/26 16:04:47 No.1210998
>>1210982
there's a wikia existing. read it, some of us contribute to it.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/27 02:37:33 No.1211169
>>1210982

The choices don't matter much aside from a few specific instances, and the plot is pretty much the same across all characters for something like 30 to 50% of their routes depending on how many nights they have complete at this point.

There isn't as much as it seems at first glance.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/27 04:36:50 No.1211197
>>1211169
Krane's day 5(or was it 6) choice had an impact

So did gruff's day 6 choice(But so far we don't know the consequence of taking him to the hospital instead of his apartment. But other than that choices are for fluff right now.
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Blackgate Bane 2017/01/27 22:54:02 No.1211551
Hi there Bane here,

So a primary design choice is that most of the decisions are fluff, meaningless, or another side of the same scene. That way I can hide important choices. This is of course when all routes are finally done and I go through it all again and add all the side stories and all of that fun stuff. Most important choices will result in (story vs sex)[you can see this in krane's route and gruff's route already] or (alive vs dead) or (heartache vs conflict) or (passive action vs active action) and of course (partner choices). It's an illusion at times on purpose because it makes things easier for me and it adds more interaction for you. Is this the right route to take? I don't know. I just felt like that's what I should do. Do you all think there's a better way? What games that have choice as a fundamental concept get it right and which ones get it wrong. I'm always lurking.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 00:39:27 No.1211582
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Damn, he's sexy as hell. I wonder if the Ankh he has on his arm has some other meaning..

>>1211551
Would it expedite the process if you just left out the alternate choices? It seems to make more sense to focus on just the major choices for now, and then go back and add new smaller choices depending on what you think could enhance the story.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 01:18:20 No.1211599
>>1211582
Flint route when?
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Blackgate Bane 2017/01/28 03:01:20 No.1211624
Hi there Bane here

>>1211582
I've been doing that and focusing on the major stuff first which is why a lot of the side stuff is missing. The major stuff is still a lot. Flint is a hunk but there won't be any routes with him.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 07:01:20 No.1211703
>Most important choices will result in (story vs sex)[you can see this in krane's route and gruff's route already] or (alive vs dead)

Sigh. Are we seriously going to be stuck with a situation where we're punished for wanting to be intimate with our husbando, forced to go through a more bland, alternate route just to achieve a "good" ending?

Because that really feels like the way things are headed.
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Blackgate Bane 2017/01/28 08:11:08 No.1211734
Hi there Bane here

>>1211703
Some routes yes and some routes no.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 09:32:12 No.1211756
>>1211551
If you look at Great Troubles VN, it had a lot of choices that determine the outcome of the story and your fate but still you had at least one intimate scene with your "husbando" and still got the perfect ending. I'm still missing one of the endings because every choice matters no matter how small it might seem.

So I'm saying that even if we choose the "more story" option instead of "sex" for the better outcome we still have at least one intimate scene or even just a kiss or a hug to show that we care about them or that they care about us.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 19:43:48 No.1211961
I like how MC doesn't even react to Krane calling Aradina a nosy bitch.

I realize that we give people a pass for slightly abnormal behavior when they're feeling as shitty as Krane understandably does, but I feel like hearing that come out of his mouth would be jarring as fuck.

Especially so when he's flipping back and forth between his pre-written lines and his ice princess shtick (but hey at least he admits it.)
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 22:14:24 No.1212060
>>1211756
That VN is short, though. Blackgate would have sooooo many more variables.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 22:42:17 No.1212082
>>1212060
I know, but I was talking about how even the smallest choice MAY have an impact in the future or even the end, because right now almost all the choices have an immediate impact and you can go back like 2 lines and select a choice that doesn't end up killing you or something else. Or choices that don't have an impact if you chose either one of them like on construction routes when in the pit or when with Krane and Rotis on night 8 ( multiple ones ). With Malo or Crome ( or Eterni when he gets updated ) on night 6 mabye you can get seperated and have to find eachother if you choose the "wrong" one instead of getting instantly crushed and going back a few sentences and pick the right choice.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 22:44:54 No.1212085
>>1211961
I was thinking the same thing too. I guess it's Krane reverting to his "pre-mannered" self. I think the confrontation with the mob is going to end up very differently, with Krane having his servants slay far more of them (which I would find more satisfying.) Extra points if he corners the mob and kills half the insightful, allowing Andras to prevail over Leraje.
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Wulfy 2017/01/29 04:58:52 No.1212250
>>1212060
No insult to bane as that is clearly not his focus, but you act like this would be a herculean task. I was actually tossing around a VN idea that was somewhat of a bridge between the furry novels that exist and a dating sim.

I did discover it required me to pre-plan every important choice (for long term game changes) and essentially have a pre-existing design that could hurt support in the blackgate model as the characters would be pre-defined, but making significantly more choices important wouldn't be difficult.

In fact, it is evident as Bane got better with th craft, he planned on having importance choices earlier have an impact (changing off of Rotis' route after starting on it might have a real impact, for instance).

It's even possible that before the reaper night became necessary, you could have avoid/stopped/fought off the attack since you can read about it. However, he realized (perhaps?) that this wasn't as feasible.

I would like it too, but the difference between my thought experiment (which to be honest, probably won't happen), and Bane's VN is that his is story driven on the mystery and importance of a fictional town. Mine would focus on choice and carry them as a theme throughout.

It's hard to say which is better, but yanno, whatever. I lost my point somewhere.
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Xylex Doomdale 2017/01/29 21:54:00 No.1212798
Hey how do we get to Flint? I did not even know he was in there.

Poor Krane... He is so cute in his own way.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/30 03:33:19 No.1212929
>>1212798
You can meet him on the Librarian route on night 6 if you choose to question him instead of Malo.
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Build 0.60 Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/02/01 21:36:37 No.1214815
Build 0.60 is out, looks like it's Kody's turn this time.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/blackgate-build-7952650

Hi there Bane here,
Here we go again! This time with a Kody update. So much to go over with this one and still some to work on.

There's new art in the works, and we're finishing up the Flint sprite since it seems that everyone likes him.

Night 6 for Kody is quite in-depth, and I still need to work on some of the kinks in it. No, not those kind of kinks. It might be a little bit before the update gets posted. I'm last minute as always but at least I'm starting to get better. I hope...

This month was certainly a step in the right direction. New year new me, or whatever the heck that is. 2017 Bane a worse version of 2016 Bane. It's like going from Windows 8 to Windows me. From bad to worse.

Change Log
+Kody night 6
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Furrynomous 2017/02/02 02:32:26 No.1214973
Well, it appears that my earlier suspicions were correct. Charlie (or another watcher) most likely possessed Gears, and the MC as well. The photos of Kody hanging with Gears on Gruff's night 7 (hospital route), as well as Kody knowing about the cinnamon poison is evidence of this. I've been combing through the other routes to see if I can determine why exactly the watchers are doing this. It seems that they work for the Eternal, or at least with the Eternal, but that is more speculation.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/02 04:42:55 No.1215014
>>1214973
It has also been revealed on Jack's night 8? that Charlie can summon outsiders and that his truck can fly. And Eterni also has suspicions that the Watchers let the previous Blackgate be destroyed so that they have more edgeless stones that we then mine for them.

Edited at 2017/02/02 04:43:19
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Furrynomous 2017/02/03 00:37:43 No.1215484
MC is very easy to manipulate...

>Tell me more information about yourself so we can find your weaknesses
Sure thing!

>I just choked you, go do more work for me
Sure thing!

>Hey MC, we're going to randomly start attacking a bunch of high ranking citizens and you're the bait
Sure thing!

>MC, I demand you join our cult and spread lies to become the puppet of the organization and our scapegoat if the war fails
Sure thing!
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Furrynomous 2017/02/03 02:07:43 No.1215507
>>1215484
well you pointed out my main pet peeve with the MC of blackgate. He's a total fucking pushover to people who are blatantly using him. Yet a bitch to others who are genuinely trying to help him.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/03 02:24:08 No.1215516
>>1215484
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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Furrynomous 2017/02/05 10:22:50 No.1216607
yea vekk seams to have pointed that out to the mc on his path
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Furrynomous 2017/02/11 02:10:23 No.1219076
I just noticed something... everybody who has told MC how they got to Blackgate did so in a vehicle. Jack was driving his car, Rotis was flying his space ship, 'AC' was presumably driving (she says her vehicle was out of commission) and Earhart was flying the Canary. Also, the police force seems to be stocked full of cars, unless those came from Charlie towing the vehicles they must have been brought into Blackgate by the other citizens. I don't know if this has any significance, though.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/11 02:13:13 No.1219077
Forgot to add, another observation I have had is that Bane edited Plox's night 4. Plox originally theorized that Vekk was an e-shard, but this conversation disappeared. I don't know if this was deemed too great a spoiler or if the conversation was deemed out of place. I'm leaning toward the former since if Vekk is truly an e-shard, it would explain why MC subconsciously asked Plox about him right before the attack.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/11 02:15:59 No.1219078
>>1219077

I'm not convinced that he is an E-Shard, but one ability they both share is that they seem capable of teleportation. So that is something, I suppose.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/12 02:55:35 No.1219908
Have any new sex scenes come out since

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NH9FEuEYj-1lbs74spkxeUR0vQp-1NChrlUKLAZiNNo

was updated?

And are there any written sex scenes that just don't have cg added yet?
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Furrynomous 2017/02/12 04:43:01 No.1219936
>>1219908
Yes, and No.
Gruff gets his sex scene on night 7 if you take him to his apartment after he gets poisoned. You two share an intimate moment before going at it.

Rotis also gets his sex scene on night 7 as well.

There is no new CG due to Darkgem taking a break from the project and commissions as a whole. I fear he might not come back.
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Wulfy 2017/02/12 05:52:28 No.1219967
>>1219936
Considering he is posting his furry artwork and came out of his hiatus a few days ago on Twitter, I assume you're wrong.

For some people, a break is just a break. It's not like k-ho who literally disappeared.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/12 08:11:39 No.1219996
>>1219967
Well excuse me for being cautious when a furry artist takes a break from a project. 90% of the time they will just dump it and i was kinda scared it would be another breeding season. Also, who is K-ho?
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Furrynomous 2017/02/12 11:09:41 No.1220037
>>1219996
Such a shame about K-Ho. FLW was so damn good.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/16 04:33:05 No.1222216
Soo...is 2 updates a month just not going to be a thing for a while?
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Furrynomous 2017/02/16 12:45:29 No.1222503
>>1222216
Yeah it has been like that for a while now, but I wish they were more evenly placed instead of 2 at the end of the month ~3 days apart, sometimes even a day apart.
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Kappa sonoro99 2017/02/17 18:13:56 No.1223115
Kappa
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Furrynomous 2017/02/20 02:47:01 No.1224182
Did Bane say anything about who the next update will be about?
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Furrynomous 2017/02/20 02:54:21 No.1224186
>>1224182

Nah. He hasn't given any details. Which is fine, given that he didn't even get to finishing up the last time he set the updates on a schedule. Less disappointment!
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Furrynomous 2017/02/26 00:59:28 No.1227027
Almost a solid month and no update. :/

Edited at 2017/02/26 00:59:39
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Furrynomous 2017/02/26 02:04:47 No.1227057
>>1227027

That's completely standard for Bane. He releases 2 updates back to back at the end of the month and charges for both of them.
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Y Y 2017/02/26 06:55:47 No.1227176
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Noctis the generic wolf 2017/02/26 15:23:54 No.1227291
considering that we have only 2 days up to the next month, i better don't want to know anything about bane in sort of an update news aspect. it's better if he just post the new build without telling anyone. of course, we need info, but also, with a lot of hype, it can come disappointment.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/26 19:14:19 No.1227382
>>1227291
He made the "finger going in hole" aka sex emoji so I'm hoping one of the two updates are gonna be interesting.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/26 22:38:44 No.1227471
>>1227382
I'm hoping Darkgem is back on schedule and it's Eterni's update.

>>1227057
This is why it is wise to limit your total monthly contribution for the project.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/27 04:56:49 No.1227620
>>1227471

I do, limited it to once per month since he'll even charge for stuff when he says he won't.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/02/27 08:08:48 No.1227696
>>1227471
That would be nice, it's been so long since he got an update.
I wouldn't get my hopes up on neither, though. At this point, I think they should just announce when the updates are going to be released, like, with a week's notice and don't bother trying to plan them because, as we saw, the release plan got constantly derailed.
He did post another tweet, so I suppose there IS something brewing after all.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/27 12:41:25 No.1227760
>>1227471
That would be awesome, first construction sex scene and Eterni would be the last character to be stuck on night 5 AND it would be Eterni, one of the sexier characters in the story in my opinion.
Edit: I actually had real dreams about an Eterni update so i hope it's gonna happen.

Edited at 2017/02/27 12:43:41
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Furrynomous 2017/02/28 08:18:35 No.1228494
Bane just released 0.61

Change Log
+Kitako Night 6
+New Music
+Finished Sprite

No download link because he hasn't posted it yet. Inb4 last minute 0.62 tomorrow.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/28 09:41:23 No.1228505
>>1228494
His internet is probably very slow, 1+ hour since he posted it on patreon and still no download link.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/02/28 16:28:08 No.1228774
>>1228494
>Kitako

Huh. Not quite what I hoped, yet this should be intetesting, given that he's rather unique among the cast. Also, Flint's sprite looks fine indeed
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 02:10:42 No.1229009
>>1228774
Flint does look mighty fine...

Something I have been wondering is, does the average Blackgate citizen have sex? It seems most are single and don't trust eachother, so I imagine it's very rare. I'm kind of surprised Alin doesn't operate a brothel instead of a bar...
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 02:11:53 No.1229010
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>>1229009

Forgot to upload the sprite
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 07:26:04 No.1229113
0.62 came out and Eterni was right about the Watchers and egdeless stones and using Blackgate as a mine, interesting.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/03/01 07:53:04 No.1229118
>>1229009
Alin does play around a lot, so I guess some citizens get laid every now and then.
Aside from that, nobody ever mentions intimate connections with other monsters, so I guess it's pretty rare.

And, as I thought, Kitako's night was interesting (and saaaad!). Poor thing deserves a hug. ;<
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 08:10:31 No.1229121
>>1229118
Kitako's new night kills me, poor bastard.

>>1229009
Flint is perfect, but very uncanny. I thought flint's sprite would have be a bit cartoony. Also aside from Alin messing around with half of the town, he did had a lover....who got his intestines ripped out of him during the librarian raid.

Vincent was also dating amelia airheart before the incident as well.

Krane does mention he had a few past lovers before they became zombie servants.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 08:36:47 No.1229124
Well holy shit, things really took a turn for the interesting with jack's route. Charlie has been pulling the strings in the background for a while now. I wonder if he's responsible for Gear's possession and the raid on the library?

It seems highly likely to me. I also wonder if charlie is the person gruff is supposed to kill.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/01 13:05:31 No.1229171
These 2 updates have been really dissapointing in terms of quantity, a few sentences for Kitako and a few more sentences for Jack, because Jack's night 8 with Charlie and the outsider in the barn were there since 0.52 ( 10 updates ago ), so it was about 5 minutes of new content in these 2 updates combined.

I'm hoping this month's updates are gonna make up for it in terms of quantity.

Bane seems to have really slowed down in the past few months when it comes to Blackgate, I remember Helle's update for night 5 & 6 was really long, approximately 30 mins if you're reading fast. So I'm hoping to see more lengthy updates like that in the near future.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 02:58:53 No.1229439
>>1229171
Well, historically Bane has had more trouble during winter months (maybe he gets SAD) so hopefully spring will cheer him up and boost his productivity.

Another thing that might be dragging him is trying to make every update correct (good grammar, meaningful dialogue and more permanent events). I've noticed he started doing this when he got an editor and the project got bigger, his twitter posts indicate that he is writing a lot but he is probably revising a lot based on the brevity of the updates. I don't think he was as concerned about this before when there was less pressure, so updates were more substantial since he felt more free to just write whatever came to mind. He's a great storyteller/ world builder, not a great writer, but that's perfectly fine. It's just the way he is and all of us are in it for the story and characters, not the writing.

It would be interesting to see how much material he could produce if he didn't revise any of it. Sure it would probably contain tons of spelling errors and maybe the dialogue would be unintentionally funny but that's stuff which could be fixed afterwards. Besides, I find it cute when he misspells words (e.g. appeeling) and his intentions still come through despite awkward prose/dialogue. .
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 03:46:28 No.1229447
I haven't kept up with this game at all for the past 6 months
Who is on what night and can you fugg Rotis on his route yet?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 04:42:11 No.1229452
>>1229447
Rotis has a sex scene in night 7, but it's only text based since Darkgem is on hiatus ATM.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 04:45:56 No.1229453
>>1229447
I don't really understand posts like these. Why not just download the game again and find out for yourself? Isn't it more fun that way?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 18:10:46 No.1229650
>>1229453
>isn't it more fun to waste time looking for something that isn't there yet?
no
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Furrynomous 2017/03/02 20:36:04 No.1229772
>>1229447

Yes, you can fugg Rotis now
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anon8909 2017/03/08 21:19:40 No.1232808
Why do people continue to support this anyways? Tiny updates and always 2 back to back. Last 2 updates were on the same day just to charge twice for the month...only way he will listen is if people start dropping support.
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Noctis the generic wolf 2017/03/08 22:53:10 No.1232838
>>1232808
I think that too. But maybe Bane is desperate for ideas. For a while, i thought that the book thingy would be a great idea to get new ideas, but still, i haven't seen anything (or comment saying that they submitted something). I sent something quite quirky (if not completely random) adding a twist to the story.

Oh, and also, i really want to see if for a while a sprite of Flauros can be happening (just to se how was he)
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 02:29:11 No.1232920
>>1232808
I'm hooked on the story and want to see how it ends. I really like the characters and I want to see MC kick some eternal ass.

But the slow progress is starting to take its toll. At least with completed media, I can fantasize and escape for a while, and then move onto another story to escape to. But with Blackgate, I am addicted. I can't stop self-inserting myself into MC's position, thinking of alternate scenarios, trying to figure out the mysteries, etc. It's not like an RPG where I can at least socialize with others, so I think it's actually mentally unhealthy for me. It's also so niche and unpopular that there's nobody to really talk to about it with. But I can't stop, it has been going on for over 2 years and it's driving me nuts. I'm like a junkie waiting for my monthly fix.

The only way I can be satisfied and move on is when it comes to a conclusion. I'm too far into it to quit and forget about it. But the light at the end of the tunnel gets further and further away...

Bane, if you're reading this, please, just complete one route and solve the mystery of the story. Other routes can be fleshed out later, I'll still support the project, but at least I can be satisfied and freed from my addiction until the finished product is revealed.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 03:50:01 No.1232942
>>1232920
Agreed, i feel like if he focused on one route at a time he would have progressed faster instead putting his time on multiple routes at the same time.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 04:04:25 No.1232946
He can't just write one route to conclusion at this juncture. The entire point is that most of the stories are interconnected with one another right down to the most minute details. To paraphrase Bane himself on this exact issue: What happens in one route has to be echoed in the others.
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anon8909 2017/03/09 17:26:31 No.1233090
So then whats wrong with doing route by route if doing 1 route sets up the inter-connectivity for the other routes in the story? If he does have the full story in his head then obviously he knows how to complete each route that will satisfactorily fit with the rest after completing each route.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 17:57:26 No.1233096
>>1233090

Except, he's well into the development process of multiple routes now and none of them are completely planned out yet. He's still coming up with new ideas.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 20:15:08 No.1233117
>>1233096
Does he at least have an ending?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/10 01:20:51 No.1233220
>>1232946
Not true. For a majority of them, that's the case. But there are some which are independent. Andras' route and the construction routes don't depend on outside events. Bane could finish those first and then fill in the other routes. At least then it wouldn't be so agonizing to wait for the mystery to be solved.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/15 01:37:26 No.1235503
I'm trying to figure out a timeline of the general events in the non-Vekk routes. Somebody help correct me if I'm wrong.

A long long time ago: The Chosen create Blackgate, presumably to separate the eternal from spreading further across the universe
A long time ago: Andras comes across Blackgate, establishes the town and invites his bros
Long ago: Andras learns that the Chosen reside in the Blackgate, and some are shapeshifting in the town. This is when he presumably learns about the Eternal, and the Retinue of the Chosen are established to link the town to the Chosen. Beleth/Leraje try to fight the eternal, dig too deep into the mines and awaken the Eternal/ get their asses whooped. The town is destroyed, but Andras manages to hold the Eternal back and reset the town.

-387 years: Andras learns that the Eternal is going to rise again. Knowing his fellow demons are not sufficient to fight the Eternal, he summons Isaac Newton (presumably because the Chosen have learned of human potential) to fight the Eternal. Isaac succeeds, learns calculus in exchange for his service and returns to Earth.

-91 years ago: Andras learns that the Eternal is beginning to rise again. He summons 'AC' to defeat the Eternal. She stays with Vekk but freaks out over his mutilation on night 5. She runs away, but presumably falls off the edge of Blackgate and dies on night 10.
*Sometime after, Alin forms a relationship with Flauros, revamps the town with the librarians, creates new rules and legislature in the police force, builds the park and cabin.
-80 years: Andras summons Amelia Earhart to defeat the Eternal. She leaves Vekk's basement to join the librarians before she is mutilated by Vekk. Kitako appears in Blackgate, and is adopted by Vincent, against the wishes of the Retinue. Angela Tuskweather goes to convince Vincent to not adopt Kitako, but is mysteriously murdered. Gears Tuskweather decides to enact revenge and rampages, killing Amelia.
*Flauros is killed
*Gears is red-eyed and unusually strong, which could indicate posession by the Watchers, to prevent Amelia from defeating the eternal and ensure more victims for the edgeless stone mining

-10 Nights: A reaper appears. Somebody (perhaps Vekk) takes a moone trap, captures the reaper. Jack goes to kill the reaper (which is odd, considering he is not part of the ethereal police task), but is informed by Aradina that the reaper has been captured. Jack's signature is forged onto the moone trap leasing document.
*Jack's night 6 reveals that Sooth (who was a member of the Retinue) forged the signature. It is reasonable to assume the Retinue planned to do this to kill MC on night 5 to test his immortality.
*Either Aradina thought the Reaper left because he disappeared from the moone trap, and was not lying to MC, or she is part of the Retinue and knew about the plan, and is thus lying to MC.

Night 1: Andras summons MC to Blackgate. An app appears on MC's phone which allows him to eavesdrop and communicate with Blackgate dispatches. A welcome message from Sooth appears in MC's fridge. MC takes the fire-poker at the cabin as his weapon of choice.
*I theorize the phone is linked to the Chosen through Sooth. Sooth can communicate through mediums (the red pen, the note cards, the phone pics on Kody's night 6) and is a member of the retinue (the empty seat Andras refers to on night 6 of Gruff's route).
* Possible members of the Retinue are: Andras, Gryz, Aradina
*The fire poker has some connection between the Chosen and MC, though I'm not sure how exactly

Night 4: The Chosen order MC to be killed by the captured reaper the next morning.
*Leraje, as leader of the Insightful, recieve notice that this will happen, hence Plox telling MC of the incoming inevitable attack.

Night 5: The reaper is released from the trap and kills MC.

Here is where things get tricky:

Night 5: After MC is killed, Gaille is dispatched to the cabin, and is bludgened to death by a firepoker. Pictures of the evidence are taken on MC's phone. Krane (if not on his path) breaks his fangs.
*Mc was possibly posessed by Charlie, considering the red eyes in the pictures. Sooth possibly took the pictures, hence MC asking "Is Sooth talking from beyond the grave" while looking at his phone on Kody's night 6.

Night ?: Charlie puts a hit out for MC to prevent him from defeating the Eternal.

Night 6: Leraje and the Insightful plan to capture city hall and overthrow Andras. Name's hand is taken to be used during the raid to disrupt communications. Gruff is poisoned by Kody, due to suspicions of Kody being a chosen. Helle murders her downstairs neighbor for destroying her plants.

Night 7: MC meets with a Chosen if on the construction routes. MC meets with Charlie after tracking the source of the hits if on Jack's route. The Insightful begin their raid of town hall, hence an explosion on all routes.

Did I forget anything major? Any comments on my theories?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/16 02:25:11 No.1236167
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Furrynomous 2017/03/16 02:32:53 No.1236168
Wasn't Bane going to partner with BadDragon to do Blackgate themed Dildos or something?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/16 02:52:33 No.1236173
>>1236168
Not sure if was bad dragon per say but i do remember there was supposed to be an adult toy line in the future. So far nothing has been said of that after they announced it, along with the normal blackgate merch line they also pushed with it. So far, the lack of bane interacting with the fandom kinda have me worried. It doesn't help that he does that Double update BS at the end of the month.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/16 03:06:13 No.1236180
>>1236173

You're right, I went back and checked.

>The first announcement is regarding merch (well, a certain type of merch, at least). While we do plan to get shirts and accessories out at some point soon, starting next year, we will be partnering with Primal Hardwere (primalhardwere.com) to do a line of Blackgate toys. Yes, we do mean THAT kind of toy. We will begin talks on specifics with them after the holidays, but this is a go!
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Furrynomous 2017/03/16 03:49:27 No.1236205
>>1236173
I also would like more input from Bane. Even if it's just popping in to say hello from time to time and answering some questions.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/25 22:55:39 No.1240163
Who's looking forward to the double end of month update!!!!!!
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 14:16:51 No.1240540
>>1240163
ME!!! But luckily I'm not a patreon supporter but it's not fair at all to just steal people's money for barely any content. It looks like Bane became really greedy, reminds me of Wargaming and WoT. I also wonder why his team isn't stopping him from doing that, mabye they're greedy too. Because it makes no sense that in the entire month he can only write like 20 new sentences, call it an update and get 1000+ dollars. I'm not saying that EVERY SINGLE update was like that but most of them were. And he isn't listening to what his fans and/or supporters want, a lot of people on patreon ( me included ) want another construction update, specifically Eterni because people really like him and he and Longma are the only characters still on night 5, but there wasn't one since April and there are comments about it in every update and they get the most likes.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 17:31:07 No.1240605
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Can we talk about how he has no idea of how to actually tie up the story and is asking others to do it for him for free?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 17:39:08 No.1240612
I was initially willing to believe that that contest was just that, a creative writing drive, but given that Bane's output slowed to an absolute crawl about that same time, its harder and harder to believe that he actually has his shit together.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 18:57:45 No.1240644
>>1240605

LOL this kinda stuff is why I pulled my support almost a year ago. The guy is way in over his head and it's just turned into a development hell mess.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 19:12:09 No.1240649
>>1240644

Meanwhile, Extracurricular Activities, an even more ambitious VN, continues right on schedule without any obvious hitches in development.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 19:45:03 No.1240662
>>1240612
>>1240644
If he actually has writers block or whatever, why doesn't he just say so and asks for help, why is he making the situation worse by stealing money from his supporters. Also on Goal publications page it specifically says that people shouldn't write the end of the story of Blackgate.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Blackgate anthology thing just another money steal for him, because people write a story, submit it, then he takes it and sells it, or do the people who actually wrote the story get the money, or is there no money involved.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 19:54:16 No.1240664
>>1240644
>>1240612

I know Bane lurks this thread. It's a shame he won't come out to defend himself and his project, since it would help me feel better about my monthly pledge. When he doesn't say anything, it reduces whatever confidence in his project I still have... feels bad.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 20:01:54 No.1240665
>>1240664

Can't really blame Bane for not defending his work all across the internet. That's one hell of an uphill battle and not one any devs should really bother with IMO. That said, while he does lurk here, he doesn't really defend Blackgate (i.e, doesn't respond to criticism much) and instead just responds to some questions or observations.

The real thing that should reduce confidence is the fact that his updates are incredibly inconsistent and that he doesn't bother communicating with his backers for long periods of times. Plus he frequently changes his plans without telling anyone (There was supposed to be a construction update months ago, he had a "I'll update X, Y, Z characters in months A, B, C" plan and everything.) Based on his unreliaibility (and don't even get me started on his self-deprecating emo behavior) I wouldn't spend money on the project, even if I appreciate the writing and the CG scenes.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 20:34:39 No.1240671
>>1240649
Too bad the characters in EA look like over-inflated balloons
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 20:36:47 No.1240673
>>1240671

Sure, but art can change. Development's a lot more than that, and Bane fails on all fronts. He hasn't had new sprites on ages, let alone the animated ones his stretch goals surpassed ages ago--and multiple times at that.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 20:56:58 No.1240681
>>1240673
Doubtful. It's too late into the development of the game to do a complete artstyle overhaul, so you might as well start learning to enjoy the balloon animals if you don't have an inflation fetish already.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 22:00:54 No.1240697
>>1240665
I disagree. Blackgate is too small and niche to be widely discussed/hated on. It would be fruitless for developers of games such as Mass Effect to respond to criticism, since there are so many forums and sites talking about it. However, for Blackgate, this thread is the ONLY place where the game is actively discussed. There aren't even discussions on the Patreon page.

He wouldn't need to defend himself in great depth, just a sentence or two would make a big difference.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/26 22:56:22 No.1240722
>>1240697
Yeah he's been really quiet lately. He used to be around D1scord (fucking filtered word lmao) but I haven't seen him online in ages.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 00:55:28 No.1241462
>Hey guys, Sean here.


>Due to overall lack of interest and submissions, I will unfortunately be scrapping the anthology.


>Thank you to the few of you who submitted for your support, and we hope to see your continued support for the project.


I don't know what they were expecting to be honest.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 01:03:40 No.1241463
>>1241462
Sad, cause i actually had a story for gruff and helle in the works.

If he's so overwhelmed why doesn't he get help from the echo dev team, they seem to be at least half way done with their VN.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 01:24:40 No.1241471
>>1241463
It would be nice if people just released their stories anyways, it's worth reading even if they aren't in an anthology.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 01:34:54 No.1241473
I honestly never had even the remotest desire to read what is the equivalent of Blackgate fanfiction. No knock on those who were interested, but...yeah.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 05:42:09 No.1241535
>>1241462
Yeah... I want to participate but my writing is atrocious. I don't think many of the fans are writers either.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 08:03:20 No.1241564
Why did bane start 2 projects if he can barely keep up with one let alone two. I hear echo is also getting hardly any updates/ bane is being quite just like the issue with blackgate.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 08:23:44 No.1241566
>>1241564

So, I think they are three projects. Echo and the other horror story I mean alongside Blackgate, but given that I am not going to spoil anything from the "husbando/es" routes, let me tell you that there is already a sequel for this VN in the making. Bane hasn't started working on this "sequel" but I can quote from the update of Jack's route that Bane has already someone working on the Renpy Code of it.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 13:00:58 No.1241598
>>1241564
Echo and Blackgate are made by different teams that are independent from each other.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 18:44:39 No.1241690
>>1241564
To this day, i will say that bane's biggest mistake was pushing out another project when blackgate was still in the works. Personally he should have waited before jumping onto another project.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 18:46:58 No.1241691
>>1241690

Except, again, both are made by different teams.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/29 23:40:33 No.1241875
>>1241462

>Due to overall lack of interest and submissions, I will unfortunately be scrapping the anthology.


>Thank you to the few of you who submitted for your support, and we hope to see your continued support for the project.

I would not be surprised if we start seeing claims of plagiarism from people who had submitted content for that anthology. Overwhelmed and can't come up with ideas for a story? Croudsource it!
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Furrynomous 2017/03/31 03:03:30 No.1242338
are we going to get an update tonight or are they both going to be tomorrow
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Furrynomous 2017/03/31 06:50:05 No.1242445
>>1242338
my guess will be the latter.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/31 23:02:24 No.1242690
>Hi there Bane here,Krane, the other side of things. Links are up.
>Change log +Krane Night 6,7,8,9


Whelp. There's the predictable last minute update.

Edited at 2017/03/31 23:02:49
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Furrynomous 2017/04/01 00:17:22 No.1242715
>>1242690
That update was a lot better than I was expecting. Finally, we're getting somewhere in the story, not just a one night update!
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Furrynomous 2017/04/01 03:25:01 No.1242766
is there going to be a second update or is this the only one this month
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Furrynomous 2017/04/01 06:21:33 No.1242845
>>1242690
Well fuck
That was some update. I'm glad toothless Krane survives.

But is this gonna be some sort of multiverse thing? Krane says something about how you loved others but loved him too. Im assuming that refers to other routes.

Man, I want more now.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/01 16:32:01 No.1243003
Hey look, the back-to-back update to bilk some more cash out of subs!

>Change Log +Redid Alin Night 5
>I redid some stuff with Alin since I didn't like where it was going. One sex scene has been removed and will be placed in a different night. Don't worry it will return but the writing will be different. The circumstances will be more... awkward. More will be coming real soon. I predict that the rest of it will be here tomorrow. I wish there was an evil grin emoji. Also it will be free.

Free, after two updates in a small timespan, sure...

Edited at 2017/04/01 16:34:06
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Furrynomous 2017/04/01 17:05:02 No.1243018
>>1242845
I mean when you think about it. Each save file where you end up either Gruff, or alin, or plox would count as an alternate universe. Each major decision would count as an alternate universe as well(Either seeking info through kody or talking to gryz about gruff's poisoning or letting krane destroy his fangs or not) So, yes each save file would count as a different universe, krane is just being meta.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 07:53:58 No.1243388
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If it makes y'all feel any better DarkGem is back to working on the project.
He posted this recently, I'm pretty sure this is the cg for when you blow him in his car
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 08:15:35 No.1243395
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>>1243388
Sweet, i was afraid DG was gonna jump off the blackgate train. Plus, boar husbando is getting another update soon so thats a plus as well, Gruff's night 7 when you don't take him to the hospital is just so sweet.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 08:40:34 No.1243400
>>1243388
also, i wonder if darkgem played the game, if he did who is his favorite character?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 12:06:55 No.1243482
>>1243400
Well, since he has drawn Gruff a lot, can we say it's him? Prime boar hasubando ftw

Edited at 2017/04/02 12:13:42
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 16:41:37 No.1243547
>>1243482
that is true, out of all the characters he does sketch gruff alot. I don't blame him either, looks and personality wise gruff is one of the better characters IMO
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 19:19:15 No.1243573
>>1243547
He is, but I hope that other characters don't suffer because of that. But that's what's happening because 12 out of the last 20 updates were police routes. Krane is already on night 9 while Longma and Eterni are still on night 5. IMO I think Bane should start working on other characters like Eterni, Longma and Helle and bring them to at least night 7.
It would also be interesting to see what happens with the Insightful attack on town hall from their perspective, since Eterni, Malo and Helle don't seem to be in any sort of a cult and what would happen to MC since he wouldn't be directly mixed in with the Insightful.
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anon8909 2017/04/02 20:31:12 No.1243592
does anyone have a link to the build before the april fools junk?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 21:24:07 No.1243598
>>1243592
link to the normal 0.64

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k6i1amdzqzi4jzy/Blackgate-0.64normal-win.zip
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Furrynomous 2017/04/02 23:34:45 No.1243636
anybody with a link to the mac version pre-april fools?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/03 00:03:12 No.1243657
Huh. Krane update was probably the first decent update Blackgate was had in several months. Not only did he go back and clean up some lazily written stuff, he actually finally fucking progressed the plot and figured out a way to plug Krane into the Leraje/Andras story arc in a way that seems fairly clever, if he can tie it up convincingly.

Fangless-Krane-MC must have the biggest blueballs of them all, though. Like, damn.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/03 05:12:43 No.1244043
>>1243573
Agreed, bane should take a step back from the police route and work on different routes. Helle, Longma, Eterni and chrome are severely lacking while other routes are at night 7/night 8. Krane(Fangless) being at night 9.

>>1243657
To be fair, krane manually ripped out his fangs and i doubt there is a place where he can get pain killers so the pain he's in would be unbearable, too much so that he probably wouldnt be in the mood to fuck.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/03 09:39:18 No.1244134
So...any post regarding the April Fools joke is deleted? Why?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/03 14:42:25 No.1244188
>>1244134
What do you mean? Which posts were deleted?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/03 17:53:37 No.1244246
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>>1244134
Seriously. Why wouldn't this be seen as the definitive Blackgate experience?

It's just a prank, bro.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/04 00:51:47 No.1244369
>>1244188
There are posts like this done as April Fools.
>>1244246
I know they're deleted because my posts responding to those are deleted too.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/04 01:25:27 No.1244386
>>1244369
I'm not the same guy that posted the other jokes, but from what I saw he was acting a little "over-excited" which is probably why it got deleted. And since that got deleted might as well clean up any replies too, right?

>implying that my post won't also get the shaft
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Furrynomous 2017/04/04 01:56:24 No.1244394
>>1244386
>And since that got deleted might as well clean up any replies too, right?
That's weird. I've got this feeling that they were...too thorough.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/04 02:31:24 No.1244405
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>>1244394
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Furrynomous 2017/04/06 16:57:58 No.1245308
>Blackgate Character Heights

>Kitako/Keith: 9' / 274.3cm

Who's Keith? I don't remember anybody being called that, so is it a new character that's coming or something?

Also, I thought some characters would be taller, like Helle because she's a cow/minotaur so I expected her to be at least over 2m and Leraje to be at least 2.5m. And lol the Eternal is pi.

Edited at 2017/04/06 17:09:10
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Blackgate Bane 2017/04/06 21:27:39 No.1245375
Hi there Bane here,

>>1245308
It's an inside joke about Kitako. Out of all the names, his I like the least. However I see the value in his name as it's different. The reason why i dislike it is because there are two different ways you can pronounce it which is a naming no no in my book. The reason why I haven't changed it is because it fits. Either way you pronounce it, it fits him, and you know who you're talking about so I kept it.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/07 00:25:51 No.1245425
>>1245375
It's about time you stopped lurking!

I thought there was only one way to pronounce Kitako (Kit-ahh-koh). What's the other way?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/07 00:32:51 No.1245427
>>1245425

I've been pronouncing it "kee-ta-ko," like one would with Japanese pronounciation.
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Blackgate Bane 2017/04/07 02:01:26 No.1245454
Hi there Bane here,

>>1245425
>>1245427
I lurk a lot. Yeah it can be pronounced like Kit-Taco or Key-Taco or like Kit-a-ko or Key-ta-ko. This is one of the few names i haven't like pinned down as a correct way to pronounce it. With Rotis it's french so it's more like rotisserie chicken but just a little different. Ro^tis (this post is messing up the unicode, it's supposed to be an o with a little carrot over it [circumflex]) is his real name but i'd rather not introduce symbols on names. Also it's french for roasts. Btw i'm not saying these are the correct ways to say them... you can and should pronounce them how you feel is right for you as you read through. The 'canon' way to say their names is what you think they should be. Just like the height listing. If you think a character should be taller or shorter by a bit they probably are. I was giving a general idea about height differentials.

Edited at 2017/04/07 02:05:39
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Furrynomous 2017/04/07 06:27:17 No.1245531
>>1245454
are you gonna give us dick and breast sizes next?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/09 02:51:23 No.1246261
I can imagine Kody singing this to Charlie, sums up his situation perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425GpjTSlS4
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 07:01:01 No.1247191
bumping this up right here.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 07:01:22 No.1247192
this up right here.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 12:04:17 No.1247250
Anyone got the Gruff Scene WIP?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 12:41:23 No.1247255
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 13:16:04 No.1247266
>>1247255
My eyes have been blessed...
This possibly can't get any better in my mind.
But meh, Darkgem always surprises me, after all.

Edited at 2017/04/11 13:17:16
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 17:05:34 No.1247315
>>1247255
This is pretty good, as gruff is my favorite route so far im loving this. I was kinda expecting MC and gruff to viciously make out while stroking each other as the scene said. Im guessing we're getting a gruff update at the end of the month then.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 17:37:04 No.1247329
>>1247255
For all things dear holy thank God for blessing humanity with DarkGem
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Furrynomous 2017/04/11 18:32:31 No.1247336
>>1247315
Oh God, not again, police gets updated way to frequently, Bane really should start writing other characters.I don't have anything againts police characters but it's annoying that they are so much in front of all the other characters, and patreons don't even get to vote for which characters and/or routes are gonna get updated next anymore. Hopefully the picture is just gonna be added to the game files and other character/s will get updated to at least night 7 because all of the police are on night 7+ and Malo is the only non-police character that has and implemented night 7, Crome only has a night 7 file but you can't actually get there in the game, and what about Crome's sex scene that was hinted at long ago.
I also feel that in some of the last couple of updates the story didn't really progress further, the newest Alin update was actually a downgrade 'cause he just deleted the sex scene and changed a few sentences, and the Gruff getting poisoned feeled like copy-paste on almost all of those updates.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/12 02:31:43 No.1247470
>>1247336
I do find it funny how none of the construction routes have any CGs by darkgem, yet their Patrons are paying $100 per demo. If Blackgate has been going on for 2 years now, with 2 updates per month, that's $4800 that each Patron paid... those guys are really patient! If I was one of them, I would expect Bane to toast my bread and butter it pronto.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/12 02:36:03 No.1247472
I'm fine with a focus on the Police route, honestly. Vincent is the only library-route character I care about, the Construction glitter-dragons put me to sleep, and the fugitive route's probably not getting another update until 2018.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/12 03:21:33 No.1247476
>>1247472

Gruff and Vincent are my top 2
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Furrynomous 2017/04/12 04:15:16 No.1247488
Need more Dogdaddy knot.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/12 11:15:05 No.1247594
>>1247470

I doubt they still have to pay 100 dollars a month to stay in the game.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/13 00:18:48 No.1247775
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>>1247488
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Furrynomous 2017/04/14 04:29:52 No.1248232
How much time do you guys think it will take devs to complete the game?
I really want to play Blackgate but the fact that it is unfinished prevent me from it.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/14 07:59:50 No.1248276
Why are ingame sprites are so ugly compared to CG art?
Why don't devs just hire Darkgem to draw the sprites too?
All this inconsistent art breaks the immersion
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Furrynomous 2017/04/14 14:43:47 No.1248404
Can anyone post high-res picture of Gruff outside of Police car that you see in the begining of the game?

Better yet post all Gruff pictures you have.
I've tried to search for them but was unsuccesful
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Furrynomous 2017/04/14 17:30:42 No.1248451
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>>1248404

Edited at 2017/04/14 17:31:21
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Furrynomous 2017/04/14 17:58:14 No.1248462
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Furrynomous 2017/04/15 17:44:43 No.1248832
I just downloaded this for the first time, and all the characters are nuts? Like, actual nuts. Someone is a peanut right now. What the heck!?
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Vic Venom 2017/04/15 17:47:28 No.1248833
>>1248832
You downloaded the April Fools update.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/15 17:47:35 No.1248834
You downloaded the April Fool's build. I guess he forgot to change one of the download links.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/15 17:58:40 No.1248837
>>1248834
>>1248833

Thanks! Sure as shit got me
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Furrynomous 2017/04/16 19:18:14 No.1249350
>>1248834
>>1248833
I think the true "April Fool's" of that update would have been if he charged patrons for it...
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Furrynomous 2017/04/17 02:22:55 No.1249509
Why does it seem like Darkgem's CGs are getting suckier as time goes on?
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/04/17 06:46:27 No.1249595
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>>1249509
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Furrynomous 2017/04/17 11:01:39 No.1249639
>>1249509
Wow, for real?
You must have one set of damn superior eyes compared to us.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/17 19:10:38 No.1249855
>>1249595
>>1249639
I just think that the character designs have been kind of inconsistent throughout the game, and the quality of his pictures has gotten a little sloppier.

No need to take it personally, sheesh.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/17 19:17:57 No.1249857
I kinda agree that the character designs have slipped. Jack's sex scene (depicted in the OP) shows some awesome levels of detail. Versus, uh...the last Krane scenes of cartoonishness.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/18 01:03:28 No.1249996
>>1249855
Geez, you should've put that detail in the first place. We mistook it for a bait due to the lack of it.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/19 20:49:24 No.1250702
Blackgate will always be shit until you can have sex with Charlie.

Come on, now. Let me fuck the quantum moth-man already, jesus fucking christ.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/21 00:13:17 No.1251007
>>1250702
What do you find attractive about him? His whole friendly-bro persona is just a front. I don't imagine he would be physically attractive either, considering how much of himself he keeps concealed. Maybe I'm missing something though.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/21 03:18:34 No.1251058
>>1250702
Seconded.

>>1251007
>Not wanting to fuck a literal mothman.

You're missing several things, indeed.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/22 22:47:39 No.1251908
Hey Bane, are we still getting that free update you said would be coming out earlier this month?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/22 23:59:01 No.1251926
I don't want to spoil anything but when eventually the game's sequel comes, I predict you MC will have a relationship with Charlie, so they'll fuck. If you don't believe me play Jack's route.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/23 03:43:32 No.1251978
>>1251926
>Sequel
Christ, I think you might be jumping the gun a bit. We are a pretty good way off from even this one being finished?

I mean I suppose once groundwork has been set by the first few endings, the rest will come quicker but even so
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Furrynomous 2017/04/23 10:41:41 No.1252124
>>1251058
I kinda wanna see what the Mr. mothman is packing under his suit.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/04/23 20:05:38 No.1252292
>>1252124
Did you know his wings aren't the only body part he can extend? huehue
...
But seriously, dude's evil. Like, kitty-punching evil. You don't wat to date Charlie >_>;
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Furrynomous 2017/04/23 20:52:05 No.1252305
>>1252292

That's a turnon to many people.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/24 01:07:37 No.1252443
>>1252124

You do realize that his mouth probably looks like like Darth Vader's mask, right? There has got to be a reason he keeps it concealed under his jacket, it would probably horrify most people in Blackgate if he showed it.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/24 07:43:46 No.1252576
it like the moth man legend he wants to suck the radiation from your rectum after its been removed lol
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Furrynomous 2017/04/25 16:32:33 No.1253281
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>>1252292
Okay I think Charlie is really hot now.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/26 02:17:21 No.1253513
Am I the only one who can imagine Kody taking awkward selfies with MC's camera phone if he figured out how to turn it on?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/30 03:36:26 No.1255191
Guess this update explains how everyone in town is able to understand each other despite all being aliens.

But does this apply to reading too?
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Furrynomous 2017/04/30 07:44:34 No.1255235
Can somebody please post the transcript from FTM, I don't understand why he put it behind a paywall.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/30 19:10:59 No.1255409
>>1255235
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=48460475034697215509
Enjoy.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/30 22:52:49 No.1255482
>>1255191
I think it was already explained in Gruff's route some time ago. Not sure.

Edited at 2017/04/30 22:53:04
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Furrynomous 2017/04/30 23:05:17 No.1255485
>>1255409
Thank you very much.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/01 00:23:57 No.1255509
>>1255191
The citizens can understand eachother through a magical filter. It translate's everyone's language to the Blackgate language.

Leraje's first action in the rebellion is to disrupt this filter so the opposition cannot communicate among eachother, as can be witnessed in Vincent's route.

MC is not bound to this magic, his language is native to Blackgate. It has not been explained how he inherently knows it. This is why Krane remarks about how clearly and effectively MC is able to communicate, since there are no filters that affect the resonance of his speeches.

It does apply to reading as well. Since the language magic is not applied to MC, he can't read foreign languages. You can see this when he fails to read Gear and Angela's tombstones, when Gruff is confused and upset MC couldn't.

The only people who seem to know about MC's inherent Blackgate language and that he doesn't have a filter are Aradina and Name.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/01 00:36:55 No.1255516
Updates this month were pretty weak. Didn't even get the new Gruff pic.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/01 03:05:53 No.1255554
>>1255516
Agreed. We got half a night for Vincent and half a night for Helle (more like a quarter of a night). Also, Alin's night 5 was chopped last month (which Patrons were charged for) and the sex scene is still missing. There's no difference in his night 6.

I can't help but think of the pie-eating contest scene from "Stand by Me" when it comes to Bane and Blackgate. It seems like he was ambitious and hungry to finish the challenge of the VN from the beginning, writing several nights per month. But now it seems like he's eaten more than he can handle and is trying hard to finish the challenge without puking, nibbling piece by piece.

I guess he has a budget and can't afford to do only one update per month, but this is ridiculous.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/01 05:21:07 No.1255592
>>1255554
I also get the feel he doesn't really know how to end the routes(Unless it involves royally pissing off the fanbase) as well, The last quality update we got was Krane's Toothless path which went up to night 9. If he feels overwhelmed he can ask for help, i seriously doubt the echo team wouldn't mind lending him a hand if he truly needs it. Honestly if he doesn't change the he's going to lose out, sadly he's lost my support until we get some quality updates. When i mean quality i don't just mean the porn, i mean sprite work, Actual 3-4 day updates for characters, Background work, all that stuff he said he was going to get done yet we haven't gotten new sprites since rotis. Current sprites aren't really expressive enough(Mostly gruff) they still feel rigid and life less. Bane, if you're reading this i really want to support you, but right now you're not giving me a reason to.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/01 08:25:19 No.1255646
So does anybody in this thread do anything with the wiki for blackgate or nah? Cuz I was just looking around to double check some route choices and that thing is pretty out of date now, especially the route map
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SRS 2017/05/05 17:12:12 No.1257390
@Blackgate_VN
Is your favorite husbando still alive? We can fix that.

Uh-oh....
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Furrynomous 2017/05/05 21:54:17 No.1257467
>>1252124
I do too tbqh. Idk why but I like his mysterious personality. Plus, I love his character design. I'd like a sex scene or two with him (plz bane)
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Furrynomous 2017/05/05 21:54:19 No.1257468
>>1252124
I do too tbqh. Idk why but I like his mysterious personality. Plus, I love his character design. I'd like a sex scene or two with him (plz bane)
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Furrynomous 2017/05/05 21:55:43 No.1257469
>>1257467
>>1257468
Idk why that duplicated
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 02:45:23 No.1257559
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>God-Tier
Krane
Rotis
Vincent

>High-Tier
Gruff
Alin
Jack

>Mid-Tier
Malo
Helle
Kody
Andras
Charlie

>Low-Tier
Longma
Vekk
Plox/Leraje
Kitako
Eterni
Decarabia

>Shit-tier
Gryz
Sooth
Aradina
Crome
Everyone else

At least, in my personal opinion.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 03:16:07 No.1257566
>>1257559
Pretty similar to my list. Except i'd switch Gruff and vincent's places
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 04:23:41 No.1257598
>>1257559
Are you me?
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Wulfy 2017/05/06 05:08:10 No.1257613
>>1257559
Yeah, this guys's basically correct. I mean, some disagreement. I feel Kody's too high, I'd switch Gruff and Alin, but yeah, overall, it's correct :D
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 05:52:53 No.1257620
I gave up tryin to keep up with the thread awhile ago. Has krane received any updates since the abrupt end one I wont spoil?
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 05:57:10 No.1257622
>>1257620
Krane(Toothless route) got a 4 day update.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 23:11:29 No.1258129
>>1257613
I'd say each tier isn't really listed in order. The order is the tiers. Each tier itself is about equal IMO
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Furrynomous 2017/05/06 23:49:36 No.1258139
WTF means HTBH?
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Furrynomous 2017/05/07 06:26:14 No.1258257
>>1258139
Probably Hi There Bane Here.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/07 17:03:42 No.1258390
Relevant to my interests. Since Gruff has body regeneration Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2017/05/07 17:17:43 No.1258393
>>1258390
Most likely. On night 6 alin poked fun about how a cinnamon enema would make him as tight as a vice.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/21 08:34:19 No.1265090
Everytime I visited this board this thread was on the first pages, now it's way back.

Is it because the game updates became less, less interesting, both or something completely different? What's up with this game?
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Wulfy 2017/05/21 09:40:42 No.1265100
>>1265090
People seem upset about the double updates happening for two long and the feeling of "broken" promises such as the lack of new sprites.

TBH, I'm not Bane, and I don't know anything about his plans or what the hold up is, but I do read a lot of these boards and the above seems to be the general mood regarding this game.


Personally: I think there's merit to the above grievances. That said, I think that with the exception of TJ (Echo), Spencer (Extra A.), and Sissel (Repeat), I don't think other VNs have very good "husbandos." Almost all the good ones are in Blackgate, so I'm slightly more inclined to support it.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/21 17:05:01 No.1265230
>>1265100
I stopped supporting blackgate BECAUSE of the broken promises, we never gotten anymore sprite updates, we never got that merch line either. The constant stream of lack luster double updates killed off any reason to support this game.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/25 00:03:40 No.1266227
>>1265100
I think this may be the only visual novel EVER where patrons were charged for negative content (Alin's night 5 rewrite cut the sex scene and shortened the overall length). Also with the last update he said there was Helle's night 7 but it stops at the end of night 6. Krane's update was the last good update, everything else has been only half a night's worth of content per update.

Honestly if the updates this month are lackluster I'm going to pull my support (I have been pledging $10/month for the past couple years). I can't stomach another half night update. At this point (3+ years) Bane should have everything figured out and racing towards the end, not stalling midway.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/28 04:31:08 No.1267853
I just made a list of character alignments.

Lawful Good- Gruff
Neutral Good- Vincent
Chaotic Good- Eterni
Lawful Neutral- Andras
True Neutral- Krane
Chaotic Neutral- Rotis
Lawful Evil- Leraje
Neutral Evil- Jack
Chaotic Evil- Charlie
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Vic Venom 2017/05/28 07:58:23 No.1267893
>>1265100
The definition of a "good husbando" is very subjective. What is a "good husbando" to you ?

Honestly, I'd say maaaaybe 2 or 3 of Blackgate's characters are husbandos to me, but the cast is gigantic, it's not fair to other VNs like Repeat or Tennis Ace which only have 3 love interests.

You mention Spencer from EA, and while he's my favourite, I'd say Chester is even more of a "good husbando", at least Chester doesn't shove you on the scene without asking, doesn't lie/hide things from you despite being your best friend, and a few times, Spencer doesn't even follow what he preaches. I would've said the same with Shoichi from Tennis Ace, however while it's kind of the same childhood friend dynamic, and Shoichi happens to be an overworking husky (the creator didn't know about EA), they're definitely not the same personality, Shoichi's probably a bit better than Spencer on that front but it's still too early to tell, it's only at day 5.

Sissel is a huge tsundere who looks constantly pissed, and half the time bad mouths you whether in an humourous or negative way. At least he's much better at it than Vincent, that damn cat fucker. But again, while he's my favourite, I can't say it's "husbando material", Samuel would be husbando material for me.
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Wulfy 2017/05/28 10:27:40 No.1267914
>>1267893

That said, if we were to elaborate and (to solidify my point, I probably should have done this form the start), the only people (word choice) I think anyone could consider an actual *romantic* interest would include my above, but also Chester (he's a nice guy, kinda hot/understanding (ask for beef)), Owen, etc.

That said, I understand how Leraj or Plox could be hot (the idea does, in fact, turn me on), but I don't get romantically invested in their character and I don't understand how people do. Further, even from a purely "that's hot" stand point, most of the VNs cater a bit to the particular fetish of people without really appreciating that this person won't work for you in the long run and/or doesn't appear worth it even after some effort.

Examples:

Darius clearly doesn't want to be involved with you except as a fuck buddy, which is just sadness since Spencer comes out in that route (so why would you if Spencer really is your best friend).

Dozer is just so bland on the surface that I find it difficult to believe anyone would attempt to start a relationship with him unless they were just infatuated by his good looks (and he's not much of a looker >.>), and Coach is just a fetish that doesn't have any long term hope.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/28 14:46:22 No.1268004
>>1267853

Vicnent readily resports to torture and readily abuses you for his own emotional benefit. He's not good.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/28 16:14:27 No.1268029
>>1267914
>unless they were just infatuated by his good looks
To be fair, many relationships start because of a physical attraction, so it's not that hard to believe. Hell, all the relationships in EA start this way.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/28 18:03:42 No.1268050
>>1267853
I'd put malo on lawful good, gruff on neutral good, rotis on true neutral, and vincent on chaotic neutral.


>>1268004
Agreed, after night 5 vincent doesn't come off as a smart ass. But a god damn sociopath.
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Wulfy 2017/05/28 21:29:37 No.1268113
>>1268029
I may be unclear, but I meant that Dozer is not obviously attractive. I agree relationships can start with pure physical attraction, but with him, I don't see it.

Why did I choose Spencer's route first in EA? Because he was the most attractive. His muscles weren't obscene, his bulge wasn't obnoxious. He just seemed the best, in my personal opinion. (It's why I was also upset about the whole stripper thing; I don't get it, and it just seems out of character even though his character wasn't defined yet. That said, there is a disconnect that (thankfully) the MC points out if you select the "it bothers me if you're not a virgin" option. It's also upsetting he accuses you of overthinking and kind of dodges the question since it seems rather pivotal to his character.

I rambled, my bad.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/31 18:46:55 No.1269595
Lets bring this up.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/31 19:14:57 No.1269601
Current version is fucked. Missing files.
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Furrynomous 2017/05/31 19:17:26 No.1269602
Are we ever going to get that construction update that was promised like 30 years ago, because Eterni is also like one of, if not the most requested characters to be updated on Pateron? Bane said his next goal is to bring all the characters to night 9 before continuing like he did with night 5 but that seems like it'll take another 3 years.

Also the new Alin "update" is the same as it was in .66 , so i don't know if this is a mistake or something, but it is the exact same update as .66 but it was changed to .67 and the poor patreons had to pay for the exact same thing. Alin's night 5, 6 and 7 are the same.

It also doesn't even want to start because it's missing files, gg.

I really want this game to succeed, I really do but stuff like this is ridiculous.

Edited at 2017/05/31 19:22:36
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 01:02:08 No.1269782
>>1269602
I'm hoping Bane made a boo-boo and uploaded the wrong file on accident. Still, with an entire month to edit and proofread everything, and considering that thousands of dollars are on the line, it's inexcusable.

If the double update tonight is not comprehensive (containing the fixed .67 update as well as another substantial update) I will be cancelling my support for this project. I see that the monthly pledge amount has already dropped to $3000, it will probably go lower by tomorrow if he doesn't fix things tonight.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 01:03:00 No.1269783
Is it too much to ask for the demos to actually work? Game crashes when trying to load or shortly after starting a new game.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 02:26:37 No.1269805
Welp, after 2 years of support, I finally gave up my pledge. The last update was the last straw for me. Damn, what a shame...
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 03:16:53 No.1269832
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Well he just released an update for Rotis. It's broken like the last release and was clearly rushed out in like 20 minutes because the update only has about 5 minutes of dialog. Nice stock image Bane.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 03:28:05 No.1269837
I'm curious, why does he still have pledges. It seems he is very irresponsible, taking every penny from his patreons, and is very lazy with what little content he post in the updates. Maybe patreons leaving and his pledges lowering it might make him snap back into reality.

Edited at 2017/06/01 03:28:44
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 03:30:44 No.1269838
Bane is slowly turning into Jasonafex.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 03:33:35 No.1269839
This game started out so well, the characters were interesting, each update was a was full of content, not this 3 mins of dialogue BS. Now it's just rushed updates with a few sprinkled sex scenes in there and majority of the characters ended up being totally unlikable or down right boring. Where did it all go wrong?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 03:46:09 No.1269841
If the people paying for this project don't demand for answers and demand that Bane actually work hard, they should pull their funding. If they don't demand this then nothing will change and Bane will continue to do this.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 05:14:25 No.1269866
>>1269841
People here are clearly complaining and are upset with his BS including me and I don't know how often Bane visits this site to read the comments, but maybe 95% of people on Patreon aren't complaining and seem ok with him doing stuff like this. From some of the tweets and the transcripts he usually says that he doesn't care about certain stuff, he didn't specifically say that he doesn't care about stuff like this, but his not caring might also be transferring to Patreon, money grabbing, amount of content, broken updates, ignoring what Patreons want etc. and if that's his actual personality ( emo I think, from what he said in a selfie photo on Twitter and the way he talks about everything ) then it might be difficult to for him to realize that stuff like this can't go on for much longer and that eventually most if not all his Patreons will leave. His editor even said that it's difficult to work with him. And basically reposting the .66 update with .67 in the name that doesn't even want to start AND charging Patreons for it is really really low. I'm pretty sure that every time you change something in the code of any computer program or change files, including games, you're supposed to check if everything works, I know that no game can be perfect and without bugs, but seriously, does he not check that the game even wants to start before posting a so called "update". It's usually hard to anger me but Bane is doing a great job at that.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 05:19:13 No.1269870
>>1269866
He literally puts more effort doing his con panels and making merchandise to sell in the panels. He rarely comes here I doubt he reads anything anymore unless it's a compliment. I have no doubt that he is just money grubbing.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 08:36:05 No.1269937
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I'm curious. How many of you guys here are still being his patron?
I'm not supporting btw, but I too feel annoyed. I can only imagine how much more it annoys you all who throw money at him to get what you deserve but never comes.
When did all this go wrong? And how?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 08:48:55 No.1269940
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>>1269937
I wised up and stopped being his patreon about 5 months ago. That was around the time EA(as fetishy as the characters look, it's actually a good VN) actually got their merch line out and it donned upon me that i've been a patreon of this guy and not once has he followed up on a merch line or the background artist or getting more sprites for the game. So i dropped support until he stops giving us shitty updates with 3-5 minutes of dialogue, actual new sprites for the characters, and have a merch line. It's was really sad to drop support the game but i refuse to pay for anymore halfassed updates and empty promises.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 11:35:42 No.1269969
>>1269937
As I mentioned in >>1269805 , I had been supporting the project for over two years at $10/month.

The first year I signed up, updates were lengthy and good. Last year, the updates were not as expansive as the first year, but still satisfying.

Bane always seemed to have issues during the winter months. I attributed this to seasonal affective disorder, which is common in New England where he lives and is understandable. Then, the updates got much better in spring and summer. This year has been different though. The updates have actually gotten worse as spring and summer have come along, and I don't see any commitment from Bane to improve things. If anything, he has stayed completely silent recently.

I really expected the patron amount for Blackgate to plummet today, but surprisingly he only lost $50 over this whole ordeal. I guess furries really are suckers who will pay for complete shit and enjoy it.

My analogy about the pie-eating contest in >>1255554 seems to be coming true. Now he's starting to vomit (updates that literally make the game unplayable unless you fix it yourself, "verson .67" which is just a renamed broken .66). Any non-greedy person would realize that they're burning out and need to give themselves time to work on an update before rushing it out. It would be totally understandable for him to not post an update in a month if he couldn't write enough for this (EVERY other VN Patreon has done this, except for Blackgate). But at this point, there is no justification. Bane used to apologize for lackluster updates (the Krane one in particular) but now he doesn't say anything.

He doesn't appreciate those who pay good money for his content. I spent over $240 supporting his project. Any other artist would be elated for such support, especially since many of them depend on their art as their source of income. But maybe because Bane has a fancy daytime job (from what I gather), the extra money is just side cash to him so he doesn't appreciate it. What a shame.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 11:41:03 No.1269972
>>1269969

You have a good point there. I did not get to donate as much money as you, about 60-70 euros (I'm from Spain, so about 78 dollars, or 60 pounds) I just hope that the updates come with more content and if possible faster, it seems he does not give many opportunities to the people who donate.

Edited at 2017/06/01 11:42:34
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 12:34:24 No.1269981
Guys, what's the progress for the construction routes right now?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 14:17:51 No.1270025
>>1269981
Well, one update was promised for November, I think, in 2016, but that didn't come out. Eterni is the most requested character to be updated but Bane isn't listening his Patreons or anybody in that case and just reuploads old versions of the game so we'll probably still have to wait a while before even a decent update arrives.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/01 18:08:46 No.1270076
It's like a bad kickstarter campaign.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/02 01:41:54 No.1270235
how many sex scenes are in the game so far and who has them and are there any that i have to do specific shit to get too
dont care if it has the darkgem art or not
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Furrynomous 2017/06/02 07:49:23 No.1270335
>>1270235
You can go to your Blackgate folder and open game and scroll down until you see the all the images, the first image should be called "alin 2" and them you can just go through all the images until you find the sex scenes.

And the game isn't nearly as complex as it could be that you have to do specific choices to get any specials scenes. Great Troubles or I Promise VNs are complex like that. In my opinion, Blackgate could be more complex with choices and actions considering the situation and the environment the MC is put in.

Edited at 2017/06/02 07:58:18
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Furrynomous 2017/06/02 08:28:24 No.1270339
>>1270025
Ah... a shame then.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/03 15:43:21 No.1270838
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How do I get to play Gruff and Jack's route?

Edited at 2017/06/03 15:44:32
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Furrynomous 2017/06/03 16:38:41 No.1270850
>>1270838

It depends on the radio station you choose. Pop for Jack, soft rock for Gruff.

Blackgate wiki will help you with routes in any case.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/03 17:09:57 No.1270861
>>1270850
Thank you very much!
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Furrynomous 2017/06/04 02:34:03 No.1271013
>>1270335
Dude, I said I don't care about the art,
I can get that shit on e621 for half the effort
I just want to know who I can fuck and how many times I get to fuck them
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Furrynomous 2017/06/04 09:29:40 No.1271133
>>1271013
List of main characters who you can and can't have sex with as of 0.68
Alin: 2 scenes ( to get the first one you have to keep bringing Alin home, the second one has been removed as of 0.64 and still hasn't been implemented back, https://www.mediafire.com/?xxqp3cn28vj3afq link for the old file before removal if anyone is interested, open with notepad or any other text viewing program )
Gruff: 2 scenes ( to get the first one you have to touch him on night 6, to get the second one you have to bring him home when he get's poisoned )
Rotis: 2 scenes ( to get the first scene you MUST NOT be on his route and choose to train with him, the second one you get if you're on his route, the second one still doesn't have an image )
Krane: 2 scenes ( the first one is the same as Rotis, don't be on his route and train with him, the second one is on his route, you have to stop him on night 5 in order to get the second scene, in the second scene you can choose to be either top or bottom so 2in1 )
Plox: 1 scene ( the same as Rotis and Krane )
Leraje: 1 scene ( ONLY IN PLOX ROUTE, you have to stay with him on night 7 )
Jack: 1 scene
Vincent: 1 scene ( you have to stay with him on night 5 )
Kitako: 1 scene ( although there probably won't be an image, ask him to keep going on night 4 )
Crome: currently 0 but Bane said there would probably be one when Crome gets updated
Eterni: n/a
Malo: n/a
Longma: n/a
Kody: n/a
Helle: n/a
Andras: n/a
Vekk?: n/a ( probably never, although there is a greyed out choice "I'm leaving" in the script so there will probably also be a choice for staying where you could have sex with him )
Aradina?: n/a ( one of the options when talkng to Andras is her, so probably yes at some point )
Charlie?: n/a ( probably never, mabye in Blackgate: Last Landing that Bane is considering doing )

Edited at 2017/06/06 07:17:48
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Furrynomous 2017/06/05 19:21:09 No.1271798
I've played through gruff's route and only found one sex scene. The 69 scene. How do I get the second one?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/05 19:27:34 No.1271801
>>1271798

It's in his poice car. You have to take him home when he gets poisoned and then go on patrol with him.

Where's the second Alin scene gone? Latest update said it was restored but there's nothing new at all.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/05 19:33:13 No.1271804
>>1271798
Take him home, interrogate Kody, and select "Yes..." to continue the story
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Furrynomous 2017/06/05 23:17:08 No.1272044
>>1271133
Is that second Rotis one still the scene with the tongue, or did it get changed?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/06 00:32:58 No.1272069
>>1272044
The second Rotis one has the tongue scene at his place.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/06 00:49:05 No.1272072
>>1271801
That update was the reason I cancelled my pledge. It makes no sense that it wouldn't have been corrected in the update immediately following it... I suspect Bane lied about rewriting the scene just to push two updates out to get money.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/06 01:18:39 No.1272091
>>1272072
thats around the time i dropped BG in patreon as well, it didn't help that i was following EA as well and Dyne was getting more stuff done than Bane while keeping a consistent update schedule and actually interacting with his fanbase.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/06 01:21:59 No.1272097
It is unfortunate because it feels like bane gives zero shits about quality updates anymore.

Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/06 03:00:29 No.1272152
>>1272097
It's sad because i really liked the game. It's only a matter of time til bane either wises up and takes the time to contribute to his game or cancels it completely.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/07 11:14:09 No.1272798
>>1272097
I feel like we should get Chef Ramsay to do a Kitchen Nightmares for Visual Novels...

"What is this update? Fuck me, it's broken... it's fucking rawww! Donkey!"

"You've given up, haven't you?"
"No, chef Ramsay, it's just that... *cue sad music* every month I dread writing the update, because it's stressful. It makes my tummy hurt just thinking about it... I used to be able to write new content 5 days before the end of the month, but now I can only bear to write them on the last day with my eyes closed and music blaring..."

*Later that evening, Chef Ramsay's team of specialists came in to give the game a much needed renovation, including fixed syntax and new character sprites*
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Furrynomous 2017/06/07 21:27:59 No.1273016
I still like the characters of this visual novel, they are pretty reliable and real.
Still, I cant decide who is the best, in sense of "husbando material".

I like the daddy, the alpha lizard, the bitchy kitty, the two-penised one and the caprine hunk.
Anyone willing to decribe their personality? What kind of husbando would they be?
What are they into? What do they want from their beloved one? Etc.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/08 09:23:39 No.1273151
I wonder how shitty the people with the guest characters must feel considering they're shelling out 100 dollars per trash update.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/08 12:10:14 No.1273189
>>1273016
I take it you haven't played the game, just looked at the pictures and basic info of the characters? I'll give my analysis of the characters and their ability to be relationship material.

A Husbandos

Malo- Probably the most husbando out of the cast, because he's the most normal and well adjusted character. He seems to honestly care about MC. The downside to him is that he is not tough, and he doesn't have many connections, so he may not be able to protect MC from the town.

Helle- not a husbando for obvious reasons but on equal relationship-ability as Malo. She cares for MC and her interest in plants makes her well-adjusted. She's kind of dumb and crass but her strength and ability with plants makes her a good partner.

B husbando

Gruff- He genuinely cares about MC and is very strong. He's also level headed. His faults are that he follows leadership and rules to a T, and has withheld information from MC when ordered to. He's also dull and unimaginative, and having only lived in Blackgate his whole life, is socially stunted.

C husbandos

Krane- He is a very interesting character who earnestly cares about and respects MC. He has the resources to protect MC. His biggest flaw is his vampire nature. Although he seems capable of subduing it for several nights, I doubt a long term relationship would be possible given this.

Eterni- He's intelligent, powerful and well-connected. He also is interested in keeping MC safe, although this relates to his biggest flaw- he sees MC as his tool, not as a person. He's dictated by logic. If MC is deemed no longer valuable, it is doubtful Eterni would protect or care for MC much longer.

Crome- Similar to Eterni, but lacks his intelligence and connections. Crome's primary interest in MC is to get access to more money/artifacts. However, unlike Eterni, he actually recognizes MC as a person and realizes his selfishness. He's less logical and seems more capable of warming up to MC.

Alin- He's very powerful and is surprisingly intelligent, and loves MC. He's also well connected. His flaws are obvious though- he's an emotionally unstable alcoholic. He might shut down again if MC is in grave danger.

D Husbandos

Jack- He's a great fighter but is also a sociopath. He sees MC less as an independent person and more as an extension of his fatherhood attachment. His whole dad/son dynamic goes beyond a mere kink, and it amplifies the power imbalance in their relationship.

Kitako- He's nice and perceptive, but he's going to die soon.

Longma- There is hardly any information and interactions with him.

F Husbandos

Rotis- He gets attached to MC, and warms up to MC the most out of any character. He even does some kind things for MC. However, he fails for betraying MC, even if he lacked the fortitude to carry out his orders.

Vincent- Incredibly powerful, intelligent, and connected. He does love MC, albeit in a twisted manner. He fails for being the only character in the game to actually abuse MC, at a moment where MC was weakest. He expresses some remorse for it after, but not enough.

Plox/Leraje- Arguably the most connected and powerful character in the game. He fails for not caring about MC at all, lying to him, and using him like a tool for his own gain. At least he admits it.
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Photo Op 2017/06/08 15:12:31 No.1273231
>>1273189
pretty damn accurate assessment when looking at it from a purely relationship-oriented view.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/08 23:00:25 No.1273475
>>1273189

wow, thank you very much, that is an amazing description, exactly what I wanted
I played the game, but didnt put too much thought into it, just played it for fun

now, after reading what you just wrote, I see things differently

I went for Rotis, for my "canon route", but now I dont feel like it anymore
his betray, even if not fulfilled, is a big turn off now that I think of it

Jack surprises me a lot too, I never considered his daddy/son attitude to be a fetish,
I thought it was just something for fun, now I am a little repulsed

Plox/Leraje, you are so right about him, but he is just so damn hot
and I dont mean his junk, but more how "strong and manly" he is

still, I think I will stay with Rotis, despite how despicable his betray is
who knows, maybe he will do something heroic (kills Leraje, sacrifices himself etc.)
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Wulfy 2017/06/09 01:21:05 No.1273525
>>1273475
I don't think the betrayal is fair. It is a demonstration of character growth.

Also, Alin would be my likely "canon" route if I were literally the MC due to background (put into a restaurant makes most sense) and phenotype attraction to big wolf man.

The largest problem I have with the assessment is that it doesn't account for character growth and changes over the time spent with the character.

Sure, Plox doesn't get better (arguably worse since Leraje might be outright evil, we don't know yet), but Alin puts down the drink and clearly only started AFTER he failed to save his old lover.

If that's the case, then the drawback doesn't make sense unless MC is already dead.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/09 12:11:21 No.1273653
>>1273525
To counter this, as the expression goes, a zebra doesn't change his stripes. Even though characters may lessen their flaws, their flaws (and strengths) still remain. In the case of Rotis, even though he ultimately defies the orders to kill MC, he has betrayed all parties he has been with (his crew for saving himself and forcing them back, instead of captain sinks with the ship. MC for lying to him about his intentions and nearly killing him, which may have only been prevented by MC's inherent magic and influence. And finally the Insightful for insubordination to the order to kill MC.)

Alin certainly improves on his drinking, but has not shown indications of giving up entirely (at the end of night 6 he says he has a drink or two with his name on them). If Vincent's night 7 is anything to go by, Alin freezes when confronted with a dire situation (which is understandable). Gruff may have been poisoned but that situation was different than Gears going on a bloody rampage, or if a Reaper were to attack MC in front of him.

Again, they improve, but their inherent traits remain.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/11 07:25:52 No.1274517
Looks like one out of the three 100$ Patreons gave up their pledge, because it's been stuck at 2 out of 3 for a few days, I wonder which one was it. Hopefully that doesn't mean that if somebody different pledges they can insert their character and Bane and the sprite artist will have to redo one of the routes and sprites because that would take forever considering Bane's current work ethic.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/06/11 09:10:07 No.1274543
>>1274517
Either Chrome or Eterni, who are the most neglected. Malo at least gets something from time to time.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/11 11:45:31 No.1274572
>>1274543
Lol what? The construction route can't be where the major characters are. Most neglected, IMO.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/11 12:58:36 No.1274585
>>1274517
That would be really, really, really shitty if he did that. Those patrons have supported the project at $100 x2/month x12/year x2 years... so they have given around $5000 to the project each.

I refuse to believe Bane would be that unethical.

But on another note, Bane is an idiot to be fucking over his patrons. He's well established in the Northeast furry community. I guess he can ignore comments on U18chan but if he keeps up the lackluster updates people will be questioning him in person at conventions, which he wouldn't be able to ignore. He's going to destroy his reputation.

I really hope he is reading what we're saying here on U18chan. We're not just haters who want to fuel drama, most of us were former patrons who have been unsatisfied with his behavior. This month is pivotal for him. If both updates aren't stellar and quality, this project has NO future. It's like getting an F on an exam... you can raise your grade to passing with just one F, as long as you get an A to balance it, but two F's in a row is impossible to come back from.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/11 13:30:29 No.1274594
>>1274585

There are times that a person goes with such high expectations that he then fucks the process. I really like this VN, the story and its characters, and I've been donating a lot of time (and a lot). I am disappointed by how this Bane is carrying ... Updates that goes up every long time, with content that leaves a lot to be desired. I wish that he is really reading the comments that are leaving him. It could also be that he is going through some difficulties in his life, but that does not mean he does not warn. Now I just feel disappointed and want to stop donating until a long time passes.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/11 17:13:53 No.1274676
>>1274543
Crome at least has his night 6 and a file of night 7, but Eterni is still stuck at night 5 along with Longma. Eterni is also currently the most requested character to be updated and was for some time, but Bane is clearly ignoring his patreons. The November update that was promised was probably going to be Eterni's but wasn't posted for whatever reason.

>>1274594
If he does have life problems than why doesn't he just say so, and I think screwing over your supporters won't help with that. Im pretty sure people would be more ok with him taking a month or two off than posting updates that were clearly written late at night right before the deadline that don't even work, like Alin's update for May that is actually just a reupload of 0.66. Echo is the perfect example of this, they didn't post crap updates and they didn't charge their patreons for nothing, instead they waited until they had some content that they considered an update and then posted it. And seeing Bane's recent twitter posts he seems ok and is even going to Anthrocon 2017. My guess is that he's gotten very greedy and is trying to squeeze out more money because instead of posting two paid updates at the end of the month he can just put them into one. And I belive he also said a while ago that he was going to return to one update every two weeks but we all see how well that is going. I wonder what his editor and other people that work with him think about this because his editor keeps saying that they sometimes have meetings to discuss stuff and I wonder if this problem ever came up in a discussion.

Edited at 2017/06/11 17:21:48
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Furrynomous 2017/06/12 03:36:30 No.1274980
>>1274676
Someone really needs to confront Bane in person at the convention (not in a hostile manner though!). Will anybody be there to do this?

I'm pretty sure in the transcripts from some of the conventions he has done with his editor, his editor confirmed his annoyance with Bane. I don't blame him... Plus Bane acknowledged he didn't put his editor into the opening credits, and two updates later, he's still not mentioned in them.

It must be nearly impossible to be an editor when you're only given a few hours to edit something before its release (though fortunately for him the updates are pathetically short anyways). On that note, aren't editors also responsible for suggesting content? It must be even more frustrating when his editor suggests to Bane "the patrons really want an Eterni update" only to have Bane update a totally different character last minute.

>>1274594
I stopped donating this month and feel much better. I suggest you do the same, otherwise it's enabling him. If more furries had backbones and stopped donating after being blatantly exploited, Bane would be forced to check himself and try to right his wrongs.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/12 05:28:55 No.1274992
Has anyone noticed that this is going the bad kickstarter route. The creator giving crappy updates, doesn't talk or is active in the community, taking every penny from his supporters, and not being transparent with his situation. As long as his income isn't affected he will continue this behavior, he needs to see a massive drop in his patreon, but since a lot of furries are comfortable with mediocre work, this will never happen.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/06/14 17:57:51 No.1276245
>>1274676
Huh, seems the top tier rewards are once again all claimed. I wonder if someone else stepped in or what
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Furrynomous 2017/06/14 22:02:33 No.1276377
>>1276245
Hopefully it's the same supporter, this is not the first time that pledge was at 2 of 3, I noticed it before but not for this long.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/26 03:35:36 No.1281817
Just five days until the end of the month, and 4 days till Bane and co go to Anthrocon. This game desperately needs a great update this month, considering how disastrous the past several months have been. I don't know how if he could be so shameless to post two broken updates like last month and promote the game the day after...
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Furrynomous 2017/06/27 04:51:05 No.1282215
Is this game soon to be finished?
Is there a proper release date?

I remember playing the first builds and didn't touch it since then waiting for it to be complete.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/27 05:20:29 No.1282230
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>>1281817
My guess is that he's gonna wait til the end of the month so he can double charge us for "Updates".

>>1282215
Well then you're going to keep waiting because it's not even close to being done.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/28 01:13:19 No.1282531
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>>1282215
IIR there were going to be 13 nights, but it got cut back at some point.
it's hard to believe it's almost been 3 years
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/06/29 17:34:33 No.1283292
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>New update is out
>Still no Eterni

I guess I'll just wait a little longer
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Furrynomous 2017/06/29 20:06:37 No.1283348
>>1283292
Exactly how I feel, it has actually been 1 year and 2 months since he was last updated, I'm slowly begining to think Bane isn't updating him on purpose considering he likes to watch his fans suffer.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/29 20:54:59 No.1283375
>>1283348
His fans are masochist, they love it.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 00:37:51 No.1283493
>That character through night 6&7

>Forgets to mention which character
>Night 6 still incomplete for Andras

OH Bane... glad I stopped supporting the project.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 00:44:57 No.1283494
WTF!!!! Where the hell is Eterni or Malo's update?!
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 01:02:10 No.1283496
How the fuck are people still paying for this garbage?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 01:40:06 No.1283503
>>1283493
You're better off supporting Echo or EA. Or the other VNs in the works that isn't BG.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 03:47:51 No.1283530
>>1283503
What's EA? (I'm assuming you don't mean electronic arts). And is echo still disproportionately updating the fat stoner ram's route, or are they spreading it out a bit more now amongst the cast?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 04:55:56 No.1283562
>>1283530
EA is Extracurricular Activities
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 05:00:41 No.1283574
>>1283530
Extracurricular actvities.

I like carl, the only reason why he gets so much updates is because he won the poll for who will get updated the most. second place was TJ i think.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 09:35:50 No.1283647
...on that topic, what happened to the ExAc thread?
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 11:03:35 No.1283674
>>1283647
It got moved to /d

>>1250264
here ya go

Edited at 2017/06/30 11:03:56
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 14:32:08 No.1283722
Good lord, the guy cares so little now if he posts an update without stating who it is.

He hasn't gotten any money from me in over a year now, the BS keeps piling on.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 18:05:18 No.1283788
>>1283722
I would be suprised if nobody asks him about this stuff and the disappointingly short and rushed updates at Anthrocon, and it really looks like he has no shame about this kinda stuff, going to a convention to present his game that still has bugs and gramatical errors from like 60 updates ago (mabye more) even after it's been in production for over 3 years, and most choices that make zero impact to the story and even still runs at a resolution of 800x600, and 2 rushed updates at the end of every month that don't even have 100 lines of new dialouge (the Andras/Vekk update has only 82 new lines). The creator of EA actually listens to his fans and is trying to improve his game with their feedback unlike Bane who, by the looks of it, mostly abandoned comunication with his fans (hasn't addressed any of the concerns that we have here on u18chan and even on patreon, stopped posting Friday updates, and isn't even updating the Android version, his fans have to do that for him). His number of supporters has been pretty much stuck for a while and if he continues like this I'm pretty sure it's gonna start dropping.
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Furrynomous 2017/06/30 23:12:37 No.1283863
Well, Crome's update is out and again it's 80% copy/paste from what was already in the game...
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 02:56:49 No.1283910
>>1283863
That was a ridiculous update... I guess it's official Bane has given up entirely. Hopefully other furry VNs are more successful. RIP Blackgate.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 03:23:50 No.1283917
Didn't add the sex scene he said he was going to and the update had about 5 minutes of content.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 03:35:59 No.1283930
Unless his patreon do something, nothing will change. No matter what we point out, unless it affects his income, everything will stay the same. Not even his patreons are asking anything, it's only just compliments and that's it.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 08:47:43 No.1284030
>>1283930
It's his birthday and people are throwing money at him and encouraging him to continue like this...
I don't even know what to say... How can they support that and enjoy being ripped off for updates like these...
They need to finaly realize what he's doing or it's only gonna get worse from now on, I couldn't even belive they didn't realize what he did with Alin's 0.67 update ( Bane said he added back Alin's sex scene on night 5 which he didn't and then somehow managed to delete important files that that didn't let the game even start, then he uploaded it and charged for it and then didn't even bother fixing it and just released Rotis' update and charged for that too, any sane person would have probably apologized and released the next update for free or tried to fix his mistake. And even in 0.70 update that sex scene is still missing which probably means he will add it back in another so called "update" and make people pay for it again ). I don't understand how they are not seeing this stuff, it's blatantly obvious he's greedy. And if I'm not wrong Bane said on twitter that his editor was writing Crome's update, so does that mean even his editor is greedy?
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 08:56:18 No.1284031
Maybe he has some serious issues? Maybe I'm missing context but I didn't understand the crying update.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 14:31:47 No.1284127
>>1098578
>black gate has a pr person
>has twitter link on patreon
>deleted
g..good work guys
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 15:41:52 No.1284146
Mannnn, I used to look forward to these updates. It's sad to see it in the state that it's in now.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 15:45:09 No.1284147
>>1284031

It's a song reference (even if he fucked it up.) God damn you people are dumb. He's not this suffering artist so many of you like to portray him as.

I don't know why you all are acting like this stupid little furry game is this guy's entire life. He shits out an update each month he probably spent 3-4 hours on at most and rakes in a couple thousand bucks as a result. Dude is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 15:53:38 No.1284153
What blew my mind is how gullible or idiotic (or both) people are backing up this shitty game that goes nowhere (and that furry knock off bejeweled game also counts too)
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 16:11:06 No.1284160
>>1284147
At least we caught on to what was going on here, and were pointing out flaws and scams. His patreons are the oblivious ones encouraging him. Makes it look so easing making a furry vn people will just throw cash at it.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 17:52:12 No.1284195
>>1284153
He's lost quite a bit of money anon, IIR last year or so he was almost at 4k then everything has gone down hill since
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 19:27:02 No.1284216
Looks like he lost even more money. Last month he was getting about $3200, today it is down to $2800. It will probably get lower over the next few days as more people play the shitty version that was just released.

I wish I could have been at AC to see how that panel went.

It seems that Bane does indeed have depression, even though that doesn't justify charging for shitty updates. Here is what he wrote in his FA account last year:

>Just a random rant about life and all of that fun stuff. First, an apology for being really awful at communicating well with everyone about everything. I find it difficult which is why I'm seeking professional help. There's no shame it getting help for whatever it is you're struggling with. If it's a world filled with monsters and you don't really know what's going to come next, you're bound to feel anxious. Alin wants me to drink, Gruff wants me to do the same thing over and over, Vincent wants me to put on a fake front. Plox wants me to lie, Rotis wants me to hate, Helle wants me to fight. This is getting a bit meta... take this is random rambling for now. There's a lot more planned and coming. I'm trying to fix myself, I really am.

He also has another journal entry talking about how overwhelming the project had become, and that was 2 years ago.

At this point, he just needs to accept that he cannot finish the project himself. He should plan how the routes end for each character and hire writers to finish the beta game for him. This will give him a break from the project and when the beta is finished, he could then go back and change things he doesn't like. He will get more financial support if people see that the game is progressing quickly. For now he will only lose money as time goes by.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 19:55:36 No.1284220
>>1284146
Same. I distantly remember when almost every update revealed something new and route parity (like getting everything to night 5) was just being done on the side. Personally, what's for me even worse than shitty and short updates is the fact that most stuff isn't even remotely new, it's 90% only route parity and I've read it all before, over and over. I wish we'd get more updates to the "different" routes (remember Kody or Longma?) more frequently so it's less reading of the same main route over and over. Or any noteworthy updates at all, really.
Also I'm seriously wondering what the hell even happens to all the money that is being thrown onto this. I mean darkgem art is nice, yes, but that can't just be it. It's been the same few sprites for ages now. Some places still use the generic background images. I don't get it.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 20:41:50 No.1284227
>>1284216
>He should plan how the routes end for each character and hire writers to finish the beta game for him.
With all the money he got, he can afford to hire writers to finish this mess. Actually, that's the best he can do for the hopeful that expects to play the full game.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 21:27:31 No.1284242
This whole situation can be summed up quite simply: in the professional world, this sort of stuff will not and does not fly over the consumers. It's disrespectful to handle your game's development in such a sloppy manner. With updates to the VN that barely push development along, all it does is show the followers that you are incapable of delivering on your word and that, perhaps, this was not well thought out from the beginning. Bane did once say he has not finished writing the story himself and doesn't know how it will end yet.

With such a stressful monthly schedule that he obviously can't keep up with, he's better off doing it per demo so he can work on his own schedule with deadlines he can set himself. Not to mention, patrons don't have to feel guilty about giving him money they feel the updates aren't worth.

Edited at 2017/07/01 21:33:47
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Furrynomous 2017/07/01 22:55:48 No.1284281
Patreon was a mistake.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/07/02 00:40:16 No.1284322
>>1284281
The problem is not Patreon, rather the way it is handled. Which in this case, alas, is poorly. If you get paid to do stuff, then you have to be professional, or at least try to be. The double-update-at-the-end-of-the-month schtick? That's a big nono. I really like the story, setting and characters (well, most of them), but I can't fathom how the patrons do not feel mocked by this pattern.
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Furrynomous!Ocuk0h33ao 2017/07/02 03:09:01 No.1284372
>0.70
>Change Log
>+Crome Night 6&7

Two nights? Is it too good to be true?

Yes. Yes it is. Chrome’s Night 7 game file is exactly the same as it was since 0.43. Bane flat out lied what was in the last update.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/02 06:07:04 No.1284408
>>1284372
>0.69
>Change Log
>+That route got more night 6 into night 7

He also lied about Andras' update, still on night 6 and no night 7.
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Crome 2017/07/02 19:44:59 No.1284620
>>1284372
>>1284408

Hi there Crome here,

Whoooa boy, where do I start? I was very excited that my characters story was getting an update, while it was downloading I was flicking though the comments here out of curiosity.

I saw these posts and thought to myself that this couldn't be true, Bane wouldn't do something like that.

After playing though the game however I didn't notice any differences, in-fact it ended exactly as I remembered, I was really confused.

Now, Not many of you know but I used to actually do the Android versions of the game back before I fell out of contact with Bane, so I have a full repository of all the old blakgate versions. I opened up version 0.43 and compared it on https://www.diffchecker.com/ to see what happened.

Well, here are the results : https://www.diffchecker.com/uuQ9CtvX - As you can see there's a comma added here and there plus a couple of small additions in text. I was very hopeful about the two large sections added at the bottom, however they are simply the night 7 files added into night 6.

So, Yeh... I'm rather annoyed bane lied about it like that, I'm willing to bet if anyone calls him out on it though he'll make a post saying it was only meant to be spelling and grammar changes. Heck I'm not even sure if that much is true as I remember him making some small changes to it before.

I guess I'm just sorry on everyone's behalf that was looking forward to this update. Please know it's nothing to do with me, I've had very little input on this besides a questionnaire on my personality type and providing a character reference, I'm not happy with how things have turned out and really wish bane would seek out the help he needs to manage and implement this.

Bane if you're reading this please take a break, people would much rather you come back to this with a set of fresh eyes instead of forcing yourself to put out a midcore update twice a month. I really believe that you're not the cash swindling scrooge that people are trying to make you out to be.

Anyway, I'm rambling at this point.

-Peace out

Edited at 2017/07/02 19:46:05
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Furrynomous 2017/07/02 20:22:00 No.1284627
>>1284620
I'm sure a lot of people, including his patreons want to give Bane the benefit of the doubt, maybe his depression and issues with his personal life is the cause of all of this. Let's be honest here, Bane has not been transparent about anything lately, he has not been open about anything, he kinda just pumps out minuscule updates, talks about going to certain cons, and talks about merchandise. Bane has promised free updates before when he messed up, but when the update came patreons were charged. Now I don't know if Bane has a job outside the VN, but I highly doubt he needs a break, the man gets paid so much for the little content he produces. He is sucking his patreons dry and they enable him, there is no accountability here, Bane doesn't seem to be taking responsibility for his actions. So in my eyes, Bane has turned into a greedy cash grabber.

Edited at 2017/07/02 20:23:29
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Wulfy 2017/07/02 20:25:17 No.1284628
>>1284620
What a well thought out, well made post. It's calm and rational.

I agree. Bane should take a break if he needs to.
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Vic Venom 2017/07/04 10:37:47 No.1285508
>>1284620
Holy crap, this is even worse than I imagined.

It's sad, cause I really like your character and his design, but to stoop that low ? Jesus Bane, when will you actually try ?

And yeah, before I wasn't a 100% sure, but now I'm definitely in the camp of thinking he's a cash grabber. There's no effort put into his updates lately.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/07/04 18:03:09 No.1285738
>>1285508
I'm surprised none of his patrons has called him out on this behaviour yet.
Damn, this project was so promising.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/04 18:12:40 No.1285743
Wow the actual Crome on U18chan. Amazing, never thought that would happen.

Too bad he isn't single.
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Vic Venom 2017/07/04 18:59:38 No.1285772
>>1285738
I just did on his Patreon, it's under a reply though so it might have gone unseen. It's under Saizo's reply.

That said I'm no patron of his, but with the slew of positive messages I had to say something.

Edited at 2017/07/04 19:35:56
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Noctis the generic wolf 2017/07/05 02:26:02 No.1285941
Well, i took a large hiatus to later see and read everything new. Sadly this things happens when projects doesn't have all that kind of organization and sadly the deadlines are quite the feature of the failure. My last update was near 0.60, but in only 10 (i guess) updates, i really changed just a tiny bit. I mean, nice, there are effort on having more story, but i do feel like i'm reading something forced.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/07 05:55:19 No.1286926
I'm the only one that in 0.70, after the attack on the house, on Crome's route, it continues as if it was Malo's?

it must be a bug or something..
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Furrynomous 2017/07/07 08:30:33 No.1286961
>>1286926
There's a line in Crome's night 5 script that jumps to Malo's part, if you want you can open the "04_05.0_Construction Crome Night 5" with notepad or any other text program and you'll see near the top:

>"Attack":
>mm "Fear builds up in my body, and I explode with energy."
>mm "I bust open the door and charge at the figure."
>scene cabin fireplace dark with fade
>mm "As I get close, I can see that it resembles a grim reaper, and I go to stab it. This is to no avail as there is physically nothing >for me to strike."
>mm "It retaliates, lifting its blade and bringing it down"
>play sound "FX Blade Defend.mp3"
>mm "My training kicks in, and I block the blade with the fire~poker. The swing was with so much force that it knocks me away, >and I drop my weapon."
>mm "It floats closer to me, and I stumble backwards as another swing..."
>play sound "FX Wall Picture Smash.mp3"
>mm "takes out a picture and a chunk of the wall, sending splinters and glass flying."
>scene cabin bedroom with fade
>mm "I retreat back to the bedroom and grab my phone."
>jump callingwhoconstructionmalo

Delete "jump callingwhoconstructionmalo" and save and it should work

Edited at 2017/07/07 08:33:55
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Furrynomous 2017/07/07 17:18:47 No.1287077
>>1286961

you're a saint dude, thank you so much
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Furrynomous 2017/07/08 06:28:04 No.1287329
Could somebody please post the transcript from the aC?
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Furrynomous 2017/07/09 16:15:24 No.1287947
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Please make it happen, more than 5 mins of content per update, pleeeeeeease.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/10 01:43:43 No.1288202
>>1287947
Ill believe it when I see it. Creators block should not last half a year.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/10 04:09:18 No.1288244
>>1288202
That's what you usually get for "biting more than you can chew" scale of a project
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Furrynomous 2017/07/13 04:01:41 No.1289577
>>1284620
I don't understand how you can justify keeping 100 dollars per update to him. Not trying to offend, for all I know you're so lavishly rich you can piss away 100 dollars, but that's not really the point.

I feel like you, and the two other construction route characters, have gotten such a shit deal in all of this. Your routes are copypasted, and you're being neglected.

Unless you had to sign a contract that you'd keep paying, I cannot see a reason to continue. I know that's harsh, but Bane isn't going to try and get his shit together without a push. If I'm honest, I don't believe he's just having writers block. I feel like he's gotten comfortable. He's getting lazy because he can get lazy. If he was getting writers block, then he wouldn't be pushing out a half assed update twice a month. What he's doing is just dishonest.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/14 22:18:46 No.1290276
apparently there is a new update
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Furrynomous 2017/07/14 23:32:19 No.1290292
>>1290276
It's mostly grammar fixes and a few minor changes like adding a few lines to Krane's route and his last name changing from Maleboge to Kalestic and after a quick google search it doesn't seem to have any wierd connections to cults or whatever like some other characters have. And at least it's a free bug and grammar fix update like it should be.
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Furrynomous 2017/07/22 20:41:01 No.1295372
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Blackgate ruined me.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 08:05:34 No.1300222
is there any new blackgate art? it's been awhile since anyone shared any
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 10:53:18 No.1300288
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>>1300222
Enjoy :)
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 12:45:45 No.1300325
>>1300288
Thanks! Now I can fap in peace. :-)
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 13:12:21 No.1300328
>still no Eterni update

Bane may as well just kill him off at this rate
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 14:35:29 No.1300338
>>1300328
Some characters are, IMO, getting way more "love" than others, no matter how much people keep pointing out the characters that should really be up to date with other routes.

Other than that, looks like Bane lost even more Patreons, in June he was making about ~3200$ per update, in July it droped to ~2800$ and now in August it's almost 2700$ per update... I can't blame the people for leaving, they had to pay for an update that still isn't even posted yet.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/01 22:35:50 No.1300573
>>1300338

Patrons just got charged. All patreons lose about 10-20% of the money they're supposed to get because of declined cards.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/02 06:16:57 No.1300821
Did he even write the Krane update, 'cause I still can't find the 0.71 download links anywhere he said he was gonna upload yesterday? He hasn't said he ran into any problems, he just said he'll finish coding and upload it in the morning, now it's the next day sooooo... If anyone managed to download can you pls copy the link and paste?
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Furrynomous!Ocuk0h33ao 2017/08/02 07:07:52 No.1300845
>>1300338
Honestly, it's been a long road of shady behavior and I'm glad he's losing support. Charging patreons on the last day of a month on a pinky-promise is very unprofessional, especially when it's late and he doesn't even bother to say anything.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/02 12:46:27 No.1300919
Hopefully, this will die soon or else.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/02 18:48:00 No.1300982
>>1300919
personally i don't want to see this game die but how things are going, death might be the best option for this game.

The blackgate boat is sinking and it's on fire. Bane says he's going to fix the leaks and put out the fire but he just leaves them and it only gets worse over time. Patreons are wising up and realizing that he's only keeping empty promises and jumping on to more table VN boats such as Echo, Tennis Ace, Repeat, EA.

If bane is reading this, he better wise the fuck up and stop ignoring his game and fanbase or he can just let it die.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/02 21:48:40 No.1301033
>>1300982
The worst thing is that the higher tier patreons like Eterni, Crome and Malo basically threw money out the window, especially Eterni who is the most neglected and ignored character along with Longma. They gave thousands of dollars for the game only to have Bane screw them over like this, which is also IMO Patreon's fault and the way it works because they really shouldn't let this kind of behaviour happen, "stealling" money and not giving anything in return ( like the current 0.71 update which still isn't posted for some reason ). And the most interesting thing for me is that NOBODY there asked a single question about where the update is and they still compliment him and encourage him to continue like this... WHY? Do they really like being treated like this? And how does Bane not have any morals or shame for doing this to his supporters? Not even apolagizing for not posting the update on time.

It's sad for me to see this game in this state, I started playing around version 0.21 and I used to be very excited when I recevied a new e-mail about a new update. Now it just turned to waiting for an Eterni update 'cause he's my favorite character, but by the looks of it there may never be one.

Edited at 2017/08/02 21:59:00
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/08/02 22:17:41 No.1301041
>>1301033
I know right? I guess you are right, which is very sad. Not to mention, as you said, that those patrons got ripped off big time.
Maybe Bane will wise up. Of he would ar least lay down a plan and stick to it... but then again, he did so back in november iirc, stuck to it for a couple of builds, and rhen "this update should have been construction route, but I decided to do Gruff instead", which really drove me up the wall.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/05 14:41:29 No.1302354
5 days later, no update, no word from Bane. It's officially a scam. I hate how much money I dumped into this stupid project, at least I stopped donating months ago. Still, I was hoping he would have integrity and that the project would get back on schedule, so at least it would be completed.

The stupid thing is that this will ruin Bane's reputation in the furry community, and it seems that he has been a part of it for a while.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/05 17:28:20 No.1302383
>>1302354
The worst thing is that people are still defending him and his BS after what he's just done. I can understand that they love the game just a much as I do, but Bane has gone to far now with this update, no apology or any other comment for why he took the money without an actual update to download. And IMO coding is no longer an excuse because he stopped putting different nights in different files and just writes multiple nights in one file, so the only actual coding would be just changing scenes, sprites and music which isn't that difficult.

Edited at 2017/08/05 17:29:27
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Furrynomous 2017/08/05 21:09:50 No.1302481
Some patrons support dozens of projects at a time so they won't know any better when one creator releases bad updates. People need to call Bane out on this kind of stuff, and make it publicly stated on Patreon/twitter what he's doing wrong.

That forces him to either clean up his act, or stay silent and see support dwindle.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/05 22:52:03 No.1302531
I would rather burn the money than support his project atm.
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Vic Venom 2017/08/07 07:24:28 No.1303086
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... ("hier" means "yesterday")

Do I have anything else to say ?

Although I might have a question.

DID HE JUST CHARGE PEOPLE FOR AN UPDATE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, AND THEN SCRAP HIS OWN WORK ?!

Edited at 2017/08/07 07:24:43
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Furrynomous 2017/08/07 07:39:51 No.1303090
I think Bane knows he can abuse his patrons, because no matter what he does he is still getting paid. The people enable him and there won't be any consequences for his actions. He will continue his piss poor work, lazy updates and he will keep charging and the furries will eat it up. He can't play the depression or personal issues card anymore, he is just a massive douche.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/07 08:57:14 No.1303106
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>>1303086
Welp, thank you for letting me know that dropping my support for him months ago for EA a few months was the right decision.

>>1303090
Of course his horde of cock suckers are just gonna give him complements and it does nothing but enable this behavior. This is why the stereotype of furries being gullible and easily scammed a thing. Promise some hot steamy action and they'll throw their money at you and you can just rake it up and walk off.

It's sad that bane now puts more efforts into setting up his booth than he does working on the game. At least the EA creator keeps his promises, knows how to treat his fanbase, and actually interacts with them. Sad because i loved gruff, helle, rotis, kitako, and krane. Though most of my love went to gruff.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/08/07 15:23:44 No.1303201
>>1303106
At least Krane and Gruff are getting updates, Eterni, Longma, Malo and Helle are being riddiculously neglected.

Holy crap this project ended up in a massive trainwreck, what a shame.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/07 16:16:40 No.1303208
>>1303201

Eterni, Malo and Chrome's characters always felt jarring and inconsistent with the setting and tone to me personally so I don't really mind. That was always going to happen with patron characters. Giving them their own route instead of being side characters was a mistake.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/07 19:09:53 No.1303246
>>1303201
Yeah, alot of routes got left on the side of the road to rot.

>>1303208
Eterni and chrome were literal copy and paste routes with little to no differences. Malo's route actually felt like some effort was put into it.

But overall this project has turned into shit and people are better off supporting EA, Tennis Ace, Repeat, or Echo.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/16 14:00:01 No.1307450
Half a month later, no word on the update, and Bane is tweeting youtube videos like nothing is wrong. At least some Patrons are making a fuss but still, you would expect people would be more vocal and angry about being ripped off, especially since Bane is so nonchalant about it.

Fuck Bane for ripping people off and fuck furries for being so pathetically tolerant. If the furry community had any balls they would shun and berate him until he fixed things, not enable and embrace him. I've been following furry stuff for years but never joined the community, this just reaffirms my dislike for the community.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/17 01:25:46 No.1307826
>>1307450
I don't understand why they just take this crap from him. This is why when people say "Furries are fucking gullible" it's true. Wave some yiff and you got thousands of them waiting to lick your shaft and they just take the abuse as long as you promise them that sweet sweet furry sex. Pathetic.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/18 17:47:59 No.1308635
I wonder if Bane is even alive at this point.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/18 22:33:21 No.1308697
>>1308635
He is, he just stays on twitter and patreon with his cock suckers and doesn't come to u18chan for justified backlash and criticism.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 02:32:33 No.1308812
>>1308697
His patreons must be rich because they love getting their wallets raped by bane. They must have plenty of money to throw away at garbage.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 02:33:14 No.1308814
Bane has turned into Jasonafex
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 03:54:36 No.1308880
I don't get it, how are people still supporting his patreon. Last couple of months the updates have been extremely bare bones and now he's straight up charging for updates that haven't even been written yet. It is getting into the last half of this month and he still hasn't said shit regarding the update that was supposed to have come out the same day or the next.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 06:11:29 No.1308964
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>>1308880
i personally do not know why people refuse to jump ship when things are going south. Bare bones updates, little to no interaction with his fanbase unless you're complimenting on how "great" blackgate is and how much of a "good job" he's doing. Thank arceus that Dyne knows how to treat his fandom well and stick to his promises, he proved that he's trustworthy in my eyes.

>>1308814
Why must you remind me of He who must not be named! I seriously wonder why kabrier doesn't ditch that loser(I feel like he's severely hindering her.). Bane has dropped very close to Jasonflex levels and it's sad this game has alot of potential to be great among the furry community and now its just....ugh.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 06:19:30 No.1308967
>>1308964
I just want to see the excuse Bane will use. If it's serious that still doesn't excuse Bane to be silent to the people paying, also charging them for an update they didn't get. The self pity excuse will not work on me, and I hope it doesn't work for his patrons.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/19 07:59:53 No.1309030
>>1308967
What ever excuse he does come up with, it won't work on me. What will work is consistent quality updates with sprite revamps(Cause god knows majority of the cast needs them) and him actually interacting with his fanbase.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/21 14:55:40 No.1309881
One thing that I can't get round my head is HOW he is unable to deliver on consistent and quality updates given his circumstances (he is part of some team: HTBH right?)

From what I understand he has two artists (one for the sprites and the other, Darkgem for the CG scenes), a FUCKING EDITOR and even a FUCKING PUBLIC RELATIONS AGENT! Like WHAT? He is part of a group, he has numerous people working on his project and yet he can't even deliver when other VN producers like EA, which consist of two people (Dyne for the programming, writing etc. and Cursemarked for the sprites and CG), who are able to deliver with much larger and higher quality updates. Hell even Repeat which is a one man job with the creator doing EVERYTHING (writing, art, programming etc.) has been able to do a better job than Bane in recent years. Let's not forget that these other producers are still able to contact their fans and keep them up to date with the production, even when they arguably have a lot more to deal with.

With all of that in mind, it's absolutely shameful and disgusting with how Bane has gone about this and with the way he has treated his patrons. If he really isn't bothered anymore then he may as well pull the plug on this project or pass it on to someone else who is more than willing to do a better job.

Too bad that book contest got scrapped. It would have probably been the closest thing that we would have gotten for an update.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/21 15:28:02 No.1309887
Wew lad, I think the dark age of furry visual novel is coming near, I am afraid that people will be so terrified not willing to support anymore these kinds of trainwrecks, which is a shame since there are many TRULY potential furry vns coming out
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Vic Venom 2017/08/21 17:40:11 No.1309977
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>>1309887
For there to be a Dark Age of furry VNs, there has to be...

1- A Golden Age already.
2- A massive hole in the furry VN community left by Blackgate.

Blackgate is a major furry VN, but most people who know Blackgate also know about other projects like Echo, EA, Amorous (never tried) or Repeat, and usually pledge/follow these projects. Blackgate stopped being a flagship the moment other VNs started to get noticed.

It's not because Blackgate's management has become awful that it's gonna cripple Tennis Ace, Sins & Paradise (which is the closest alternative to Blackgate), or Project Aego.

It didn't cripple EA at all, EA was still in the 300$ when Blackgate started to decline in terms of quality, and made a sudden burst mid-2016.

https://graphtreon.com/creator/dk999
https://graphtreon.com/creator/blackgategame

Just take a gander at this (click "All"), it's also pretty rare with all the false pledges when you do worse/make next to no progress compared to your beginning of the month.

Edited at 2017/08/21 23:57:49
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/08/22 15:03:40 No.1310514
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>>1309977
Definitely agree with you.
Just because this project went to Hell it does not mean that all VNs will lose support. Patrons can and will discontinue their support if they feel a creator is doing a poor job.
Also, boy did things get ugly on Patreon. People have finally begun to complain about Bane's behaviour. How did he think he could get away with such a dastardly move I honestly cannot fathom.
Feels bad, man
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Furrynomous 2017/08/23 18:02:12 No.1311074
>>1309887
Dark age? Just because BG turned into a massive shit fest. EA and other VNs are doing just fine, don't condemn the others because one dude fucked up. For me Dyne the creator of EA has my loyalty because he interacts with his fanbase regularly, updates on time, actually keeps his promises I.E getting out a merch line and gives us a heads up on things such as making the updates a day later so people don't scum an update then drop the patreon before they get charged. Or saying their is not gonna be an update for this week/month.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/24 18:06:21 No.1311485
To think that this used to be my favorite vn. It's so sad seeing how Bane is treating the project. I loved the story and cared deeply for the charecters. I really didn't want it to turn out like this. It fucking sucks, man. Seeing something you liked and supported just turn into shambles because the developer was a greedy piece of garbage. I'm just hoping this project gets picked up by someone else who will fix all the issues and will actually update the game in full updates. That's the only way I can see this vn surviving. Maybe some super dedicated fan can just take over and write out the rest of the story. The way it was intended to be from the very start.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/25 00:21:16 No.1311592
>tfw you remember playing one of the early demos back in 2014 and now the game has become a mess
Take me back
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Furrynomous 2017/08/26 03:10:58 No.1312198
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if bane cancelled and ran off somewhere.

>>1311592
I would also like to go back to the time, where each update warranted a shit load of theory weaving of who did what, who killed soothe, and what happened to the town in the depths of the city. I miss those times.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/26 12:11:19 No.1312340
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>>1312198

I think you may be right.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/26 15:11:05 No.1312390
>>1312340
I'm not surprised at all, since he seems to be retweeting on twitter too.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/26 19:11:45 No.1312459
>>1309977
It won't matter for existing projects, but it certainly will for and future projects. People won't be as willing to part with their money after being burnt by Blackgate or Armorous (though that's kind of turned around).
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Vic Venom 2017/08/26 22:45:56 No.1312514
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>Bane, regardless of what people are saying, I really really enjoy this game, and I absolutely love the story. The mystery of Blackgate is thrilling, and each character route adds more to the story. I just started actually supporting you, but I've been trying to keep updated on this game for a while. I'm hoping that you can get past whatever is causing the delay of this game, because it desrves to be made.
>Just know that all of these people who are complaining don't know what coding is like, or what it's like to create such a complex and interesting story like this game has.
>I seriously hope that you don't quit working on Blackgate. Good luck <3

https://www.patreon.com/posts/build-0-71-13571760

I just...

I don't even...

...since when Renpy is complex anyway...

...

*Brain trauma*

I'll just put that on... naivete.

Edited at 2017/08/26 22:47:13
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Furrynomous 2017/08/27 03:46:30 No.1312612
So, finally a response...From someone other than Bane...Nearly a month later saying that there was a major lack of communication within their own team. But it's okay. Burnout is rough and coding is hard.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/28 02:02:34 No.1312994
Pledge amounts are dropping pretty hard. It is at $2600 right now, dropped like 300-400 from last month.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/28 03:07:36 No.1313010
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Furrynomous 2017/08/28 04:23:47 No.1313025
So bane noticed his free cash is going down so he's going to try and win pity points by saying he was burned out? what a load of bull.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/28 04:56:40 No.1313032
>>1313025
Nah, Bane had nothing to do with that post. Notice how they offered absolutely no new information in it. It was only stuff that everyone else already knew. "Bane didn't post the update, he's feeling burned out and needs a break" basically sums the whole thing up.

My guess is that even his staff can't communicate with him so they just issued that "update" to try and keep their fans from leaving while they scrambled to try and contact Bane. The whole thing is such a mess that there's no communication even among the Dev Team. Better games have died for lesser problems than that. This is just shaping up to be another Morenatsu. No updates, just a few words and empty promises from staff members that things will get better "soon" until one day they just announce that the project died and they're abandoning it.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 05:44:39 No.1313438
Ah, here we go. Looks like the full story will finally be told...Well, to the patrons, at least. Everyone else can fuck off, apparently.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 06:11:25 No.1313443
He posted his explanation, anyone got it?
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 06:41:05 No.1313450
Hi there Bane here,


-What's been going on?
I should start off by saying how sorry I am and how eternally thankful I am for each and every one of you. I have been the absolute worst the past month and it is entirely my fault. I'm the one to blame and I acknowledge how shitty I am. You all deserve better than this and I am working towards that goal. Over the past two months I have been going to psychotherapy once a week every week. It may come as a surprise (it shouldn't considering the subject matter of Blackgate) that I have severe depression and anxiety. Now I'm not blaming my fuck ups on some medical condition. That's not what this is. What I'm saying is that I'm getting help to manage and respond appropriately and healthly (I don't think that's a word but it's the only one that accurately describes what I'm trying to achieve) to the stresses of all of this. To the stresses of having an audience. To help with the overwhelming doubt, fear, and despair I have regarding Blackgate. To help with everything. I've hit a very deep dark low but I'm coming out of it.

-What happened to 0.71?
I made 0.71 and I once again thought it wasn't enough. It wasn't good enough. It's never good enough. So I took it back down to work on it again. A day turned into a week, a week turned into a month. I'm afraid of being afraid of the comments I read. I avoided patreon and all of you. That was wrong of me.

-Am I afraid of losing patrons?
Yes and no. To the patrons I have, I want to do everything I can to make something that makes you say well anything really. I want to create something that you like and continue to like. For those that support me, have supported more, are going to support me; my heart bleed with respect and joy. I'm humbled and awed by all of you. The ones that yell at me, that ones that criticize me, and the ones that praise me. You're all citizens in this town. I'm also not afraid of losing patrons because if all of the support for this project just ups and leaves, I'm still going to work on Blackgate. I'm still going to be sitting in the attic typing away.


-What next?
Therapy has been helping me. I'm more aware of the pain and anguish I'm in every day (that makes it sound so melodramatic). By that I mean, Blackgate might get a lot darker. I'll start to get back on track once I stop fearing my audience, which I'm also working on. I'll start to be like the old Bane, for any of you who remember him.

After reading all of that you probably think the writer of Blackgate is an unstable and unworthy individual to support. You probably think, wow he's really going for some pity points. In reality I just wanted to let you know. I wanted to be transparent when I really have not been for the past months. I want to say I'm sorry. I want to say thank you. I want to say this crazy ride will never end (happily). I want to say hamburgers are made of beef.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 09:38:22 No.1313487
Kind of a pity party, even though he tries to assuage fears that it's a pity party.

His problems can 100% be solved by TALKING TO LITERALLY ANYONE.

Bane is sad.

Bane responds by being sad and not doing anything.

Bane says how he is sad and has these issues and even though he's seeing a therapist, does nothing to deal with his fiction monster.

Bane finishes by completing his post saying nothing by saying he just wants everything to be okay and he super duper promises he's better and loves everyone.

Bane says he's always wanted to be transparent, but just hasn't in then past. And he promises to do it better.

I just... don't care anymore. I was 100% on his side for literally years, but if it takes his money dropping away, pressure from his team, and months of psychotherapy for him to post ANYTHING, then... why bother?

I goddamned adored this story, and as much as I want this to be a turning point, I doubt it.

Bane could have solved every issue in his life to do with this story by giving 100 bucks a month to ANYONE for a few hours to help him write or to bounce ideas or... anything.

Best of luck to you Bane and I hope you get better, but I'm gonna just check back in 6 months and see if anything's different.
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Vic Venom 2017/08/29 10:51:27 No.1313499
>>1313450
What could possibly go wrong ?

...

Okay, for as cynical as I've been these past few months, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he'll improve and succeed in making a streak of decent updates, maybe he'll be reasonable and take an actual break.

I'm still sceptical, but I'll wait and see, giving him a chance, chances are he'll recover. Doesn't hurt to be optimistic sometimes.

Edited at 2017/08/29 10:52:37
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 15:55:28 No.1313576
>>1313450
Congratulation on your pity party. As for me, I'm not buying it. To use self loathing and depression to get people to feel sympathy for you is sad, you could have prevented this very easily, you could have said something the moment you started slipping. It had to take you losing money, support and people actually complaining, for you to be able to say something. And all you gave them was a sob story, if no one would have said anything nothing would have changed, you would not be here or at your patreon asking for forgiveness. So excuse me when I say I don't buy your sob story at all. That is not taking responsibility, that's just wanting people to feel sorry for you.
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Vic Venom 2017/08/29 17:12:10 No.1313603
>>1313576
It's not Bane. It's someone sharing his message.
Bane wouldn't have put this message for patrons only, and then decided to dump it there.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 21:48:30 No.1313714
Oh come on. Howly, the writer of Echo, has anxiety and OCD issues, but he doesn't release half baked updates, charge for updates that haven't come out, and is insistent on not charging patrons when he fails to release updates on time.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/29 23:41:03 No.1313763
He charges his patrons for garbage updates and occasionally nothing at all and wonders why he feels like shit all the time.

Edited at 2017/08/29 23:44:53
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Furrynomous 2017/08/30 04:05:39 No.1313893
>>1313603
Bane knows better than to come here, we would rightfully tear that ass apart.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/30 11:49:17 No.1314021
>>1313763
Patreon is a mistake.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/30 16:54:04 No.1314101
>>1314021

Only to you, and only because it means you stop getting everything for free.
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Vic Venom 2017/08/30 17:07:06 No.1314109
>>1314101
Even if you can argue that, Blackgate's demos are free and Day One, so it's not like it should be a problem for Scrooge McDuck over there.

Doesn't change that I feel bad for patrons for this specific project though.

Edited at 2017/08/30 17:08:25
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Furrynomous 2017/08/30 22:46:17 No.1314249
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>>1313893
I remember a few years back when bane would come visit here and answer questions, tease about next updates and just fool around.... I miss those days.
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Furrynomous 2017/08/31 04:26:39 No.1314362
I like how his post didnt adress the issue of him taking money for poor updates and no updates and didnt say if he'd keep doing it so he could "keep going to therapy/other reason"
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Furrynomous 2017/08/31 21:33:48 No.1314768
I still don't get why his explanation is behind a paywall. It seems like some of the people he'd want to address with that would be former patrons and people on the sidelines watching all of this unfold. Someone on the Patreon even asked about that and Bane's response was, word-for-word: "It contains some personal things. It'll probably get leaked and you'll be able to read it somewhere."

It contains some personal things. Okay, so, part of your explanation isn't suitable for everyone to see, then? What? And the next part where he says it'll probably get leaked and you can find it somewhere else. Geez, that sounds really dismissive. Granted, I'm not completely sure that the one who made that reply on Patreon was Bane himself or someone else on the team, but still...

It's going to take a lot to win back trust. Depending on how he handles the next few updates and how he handles the (understandably) angry supporters and former supporters...Well, who knows?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/01 05:23:21 No.1314983
Another Gruff/police route update... I can guess that the one 100$ Patreon that left is Crome but it also wouldn't surprise me that it's Eterni considering how Bane is treating his character, at this point I think Bane is only writing certain characters like Krane and Gruff because he knows how to write them and just forgot how to write all the other characters. There is absolutely no reason to ignore a character for a year and a half other than you forgetting how to write them or that they even exist.

Edited at 2017/09/01 05:24:47
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Vic Venom 2017/09/01 05:27:26 No.1314987
>>1314983
Crome left a long time ago, he's been just following the project, but not pledging, at least not a 100$ pledge.

Last I checked, when it was "3 out of 3 Patrons", a quick check on his page, and Crome wasn't one of them.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/01 06:25:30 No.1315006
>>1314983
I feel like Krane, Gruff, and Rotis are the ones bane has written very well. While i do enjoy this gruff update, there were other characters that really needed the progression update more than gruff did IMO.
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Bookwyrm 2017/09/01 10:48:48 No.1315079
>>1315006
Hm. I've seen some positive feedback with the last two updates so I guess this could be a good sign. I suppose that if writer's block and anxiety are the true issues it would make sense to stick with the characters he feels more comfortable with. Of course this might mean losing support from fans of the neglected characters, but if this allows quality content I suppose it might be the best course of action until he figures out how to manage the other routes
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Furrynomous 2017/09/01 16:11:09 No.1315175
>>1315079
I'm still on defensive for the BS he pulled with his updates for the past year or so, But this update was pretty good and i gotten to see gruff's vunerable side which i've been wanting to see for a while. My only gripe is that MC seems like a unfeeling twat during the whole thing.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/03 04:50:22 No.1315921
He'd have to stop doing the double month end post bullshit before I consider giving him money again.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/05 02:05:17 No.1316836
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This update has inspired me.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/05 04:08:36 No.1316863
>>1316836
I don't know which part was funnier, Vekk blue screening on MC and gruff or gruff not giving a fuck while you casually pull daggers and knives out his back.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/05 05:43:12 No.1316964
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Latest gruff update in a nutshell

Rotis: Why don't you die?!

MC:
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Furrynomous 2017/09/05 14:19:44 No.1317158
>>1316836
Hmm... Explain? I don't mind spoilers.
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Bookwyrm 2017/09/05 16:51:40 No.1317276
>>1317158
Considering one of the comments above it would seem something caused Vekk to "glitch". Probably something he did not forsee or that he is unable to properly understand. I'm very curious right now.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/06 02:08:39 No.1317479
for some reason gruff's update made me think of that one song that was in the ending of Life is Strange. The ending where you fuck over the town for your bitchy lesbian lover.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/06 08:50:29 No.1317612
>>1313450
>I made 0.71 and I once again thought it wasn't enough.

Then why did he charge for it?

>By that I mean, Blackgate might get a lot darker.

For god's sake stop playing up the whole LMAO BLACKGATE DARK AND EDGY bullshit. Fucking Repeat is darker than this trash at this rate. This VN is far from dark at this point. It's filled with shitty writing cliche's and poor character choices.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/07 02:01:43 No.1318085
>>1317612

What's Repeat even about anyway? I've seen it mentioned here a few times. Is it any good?
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DzahnDragon 2017/09/07 03:00:34 No.1318107
>>1318085

There's a thread for it still on the other side if you want to check it out.
>>1127026
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/09/07 13:16:30 No.1318264
Ok, glitchy Vekk was actually kinda disturbing. I wonder if it's because he lost it or something's messing up with the flow of time (which would kinda make sense for a being kmown as Eternal).
By the way, has anyone experienced a bug where the shower sound will just loop over and over? It kinda breaks the immersion lol
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 04:42:53 No.1319052
Wow, finally got around to playing the most recent additions to Krane's route and I have to admit I'm a bit impressed. I'm actually starting to feel somewhat invested in the story again.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 15:44:06 No.1319213
>>1319052
I feel the same way but with gruffs route. But im not going to support his patreon after the shit he pulled.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 17:34:18 No.1319301
>>1319052

After reflecting upon the latest Krane update a bit I'm fairly convinced that Bane could not make any of his other characters suffer as much as Fangless Krane has at this point even if he tried, jesus christ.

I just want him and MC to find some fucking peace and happiness already. Dude can not catch a single break.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 21:49:30 No.1319354
>>1319301
Didn't Bane say a while ago that there will be very few actual "good" endings? Which to me already kinda spoils the game somewhat 'cause if I already know that my fav character will probably die then the game will become less interesting for me as the they come closer to the final few nights. Now, I understand that nothing is ever perfect and that we need a bad end every now and then, but just killing 90% of the cast just because "you can" without choices to prevent it or at least make it that they don't die but still horrible things happen to them is a really big NO! at least for me because if you know they'll die no matter what you do then whats the point, you're just playing it to get depressed. And because this game has very few choices that actually change things and no variables that change how characters act if you do something good or bad that might alter their actions twards you at the end, makes this game more "linear" IMO. Of course this is Bane's game and he can do whatever he wants with it, I'm just saying that killing people's favorite characters just because you're depressed and want to spread that depression??? ...in a way? is probably not a good thing to do and might worsen your mental health, at least that's what i got from reading his apology message and his other simmilar posts.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/13 08:12:43 No.1320771
>>1319354
I could definately see Plox/Leraje's route being a bad ending from the get go only with varying degrees of bad. But having little good endings with husbandos(Or waifus) of choice seems like a bad choice IMO.

Then again most of the choices in this game doesn't really have much of an impact.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/15 04:13:20 No.1321417
How long until this game will be finished?
I am mostly interested in Gruff route.
Wasn't Bane planning to have it 10 nights?
What nights does he currently work on?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/15 05:12:55 No.1321438
>>1321417

1. I don't know how long until this game is finished(or canceled)

2. I feel you, gruff is my favorite by far. Krane and rotis follows after. Since i don't ending up disliking them by time night 5-6 rolls out.

3. Bane originally said it was supposed to last 13 nights but might change. Personally 15 or 16 nights would help the pacing of the game since there are alot of things that can be paced out (I.E Jack giving a 180 from caring father figure to, sadistic dom dad psychopath).

4. Nights for each route vary, but the ones with the most nights are Krane( 9 Nights) Gruff( 7 1/2 nights) and Rotis( 7 1/2 nights) Other routes are mostly stuck at night 6.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/09/16 17:53:39 No.1321936
So, there's a dude with a bat character tweeting about being Krane's brother. Does that mean that one of the contructions crew's characters will be ret-gone? Or he's just an addition to the cast? >_>
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Furrynomous 2017/09/16 23:01:30 No.1322086
>>1321936
That would probably be the worst thing Bane could do to this game, just removing a main character after the Patron gave him 1000's of $ and rightfully dropped his support because his character was completely ignored.

And the whole thing about Trale is just... I think Bane is running out of ideas at this point. He renamed Krane's last name and suddenly he has an "older" brother out of nowhere that somehow has access to Twitter... I guess he might be in library's prison but still Krane never mentioned he had any family in Blackgate, mabye Trale arrived in Blackgate and Krane just doesn't know it yet. But then again, why would Andras or the Chosen or whoever decides who comes to BG bring two of the same species, the only others are Gruff's family but he was born in BG along with his brother Gears.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/17 05:15:44 No.1322183
Man, I miss the feeling when I first discovered this game, fell in love with Gruff, Alin, Malo, fell in love with the game's dark and moody atmosphere, it was fucking great.

Shame that it's now declining and will probably just die out eventually.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/17 07:24:26 No.1322209
>>1322183
i feel the same way. But i also miss the theory weaving with each update and predicting what is going to happen in the next update. Now those days are behind us and i wouldn't be surprised if i was to wake up tomorrow and find that bane dropped the project.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/18 01:25:23 No.1322499
>>1322086
Trale reminds me of Blackgate: Last Landing. It just seems like Bane is intentionally trying to stall the project by piling on more work, like someone who is paying off his debt and splurges on a new Ferrari. I think Bane has anxiety regarding completing projects.

The only smart thing he could do if he was committed to completing the project would be to focus on two characters (Gruff and Krane, since he can write them easily) and just complete their routes. Then, he would have a central story to write the other characters on, and any changes would only require slight edits instead of changing the entire storyline.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/09/18 06:59:42 No.1322593
>>1322499
That's kinda what he said he would be doing in the Patreon's comments.
If that means the overall quality of the updates for the neglected characters will improve, he should totally go for it.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/18 20:58:22 No.1322837
sooo is this game dead now ?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/18 22:27:20 No.1322849
>>1322837
Not yet, but the end of the month is nearing and looks like he will continue with his double posts... That is also one of the major reasons people are quitting their support but it doesn't seem to bother Bane that much.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/09/19 10:19:40 No.1323032
>>1322849
Last two updates were not bad, if he can keep this up it would not really matter if he posts them a the end of the month, rather than 2 weeks apart. Patreon should charge you at the end of the month in any case. What really matters is being honest and posting proper updates. Sure, he might still lose some support by fans oglf the characters he neglects the most (Eterni, Longma, Helle, Crome etc), but they might come back once updates of those routes resume.
tl;dr version: don't scam your patrons and you'll have a smaller, but stable pool of supporters.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/21 18:01:42 No.1323695
Honestly, I would rather prefer Bane to finish each character route separetaly instead of doing them all at once. But I guess the concept of the story doesn't help with it and will spoil the ending making other routes irrilevant for many people.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/24 13:09:08 No.1324927
>>1323695
Honestly, spoilers don't matter at this point. If anything, I would prefer a finished route, just to figure out how everything works. It has been over 3 years, it's not like this is a project that just started. We're all too invested in this to let spoilers stop us from playing.

The characters are ultimately what matter, so even if we know how Blackgate works, it's still worth it to see each character's progression.
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Blackgate Build 0.74 not bane 2017/10/01 01:47:03 No.1327478
>Hi there Bane here,

>Just some more sass in this update.


>Change Log
>+Alin Night 6&more of 7
>+New Music
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 07:23:52 No.1328190
U gotta be fking kidding me
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/10/02 07:38:25 No.1328194
Looks like a new Rotis update is out too.
Has anyone tried out Alin's update yet? I'll try Rotis later today.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 09:53:22 No.1328242
>>1328190
Why?

>>1328194
The sex scene that was supposed to be added back in 0.67 is back along with a few changes in night 6 and more story in night 7, also a small section wasn't added into the story probably 'cause that will come later but you can see it anyway if you open Alin's night 6 file and scroll to the bottom.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 14:42:25 No.1328319
Man I sure do love waiting a month for content that will last barley 20 minutes.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 20:26:11 No.1328957
i'm stupid and I cant get the second sex scene with Alin xdd
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 23:48:51 No.1329030
>>1328957

Bane removed it with the intention of putting it somewhere later in the story.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 03:32:50 No.1329127
>>1328957
>>1329030

It's back in the game. Redo night 6 and you'll get to it after helping Gruff.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 07:53:26 No.1330243
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So has anyone noticed some similarities between the town in Blackgate and Silent Hill? Both are cut off from the rest of the world/universe. Both have creatures or monsters that try to kill you. And both have a perpetual fog/night. While Silent Hill goes for more of a psychological hellscape I think Bane drew some inspiration from the games when creating Blackgate and modeled the town after Silent Hill.

I haven't kept up with the game recently but just played through Krane's newest update and it was pretty interesting. So after drinking MC's blood he was able to see a bunch of different pasts. Almost like being able to see individual playthroughs with different characters. It kind of reminded me of Sans in Undertale and how he would mention or just plain state what you had done in other playthroughs of the game.

Also the area after entering the Blackgate looks like a Zdzisław Beksiński painting. It's pretty horrifying.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 01:01:05 No.1331311
>>1330243
The differences between BG and Silent hill is that the protagonist of BG does not have any known "demons" nor go through any emotional or mental turmoil during his stay in BG he just seems to "go with the flow" as his coping habit. With silent hill the protagonists are "called" to the town because they're going through emotional turmoil weather it's Harry trying to find his lost daughter, James getting a letter from his deceased wife telling him to come to silent hill or heather going to silent hill to get revenge upon her father's killer.

MC just got sucked into BG by some shit circumstance and his nonchalance towards his potential suitors and his situation makes him very bland in comparison to SH protagonists.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/10/09 09:48:04 No.1331436
>>1331311
There is one more thing to consider, though: we actually do not know the circumnstances in which most people were pulled into Blackgate.
What if Andras chose to pull MC because his car was going to crash otherwise?
If you think about Rotis, it would appear Andras saved his life by pulling his escape pod into Blackgate; likewise, we could speculate that Amelia would have gotten lost and perhaps crashed at sea, had she not been pulled. Under this hypothesis, MC's arrival into Blackgate seems less random.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 06:54:08 No.1332008
>>1331436
That is a possibility, andras could have saved him from a fatal car accident but we don't know what until bane CONSISTENTLY UPDATES THE FUCKING GAME! Maybe it will be revealed on andra's route.

I still hold on my argument on that MC doesn't really go through any real emotional turmoil unless his break down on night 5 during gruff's route his emotional hurdle. But that's a stretch.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 20:12:03 No.1334520
>>1332008
I still hold on my argument on that MC doesn't really go through any real emotional turmoil unless his break down on night 5 during gruff's route his emotional hurdle. But that's a stretch.

I wanted to MC goes full Shirou, Autism and all. But with monster instead of swords.

Hell, for me Black Gate works better with something like "each route is his own world, and always goes of the rains FAST!" and you receive the full package instead of waiting months for almost nothing new.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/10/17 14:38:56 No.1334872
>>1334520
I see your point, however that would mean less money, since you'd get pledges only from the people whose favourite route is being published.
That being said, I know several past "updates" felt like total rip-offs, and I hope Bane will avoid such mistakes in the future.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 04:08:09 No.1336932
>>1334872
bane started doing those halfassed updates about a year and a half a go, people started to catch on(well the smart ones) and they dropped their support. But he really hasn't learned from his mistakes. Which only hurts him and his fans in the long run.

Haven't you noticed that he never comes to U18chan anymore(Because people would rightfully chew him out). He only hangs around on twitter and his patreon page where he gets nothing but praise.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 04:30:37 No.1336944
Is it bad I still download the latest version when it updates out of habit but end up not playing at all?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 06:52:03 No.1337009
>>1336944
Nope, I do that as well but I do read the new content from the script to see if there's also some hidden stuff.

>>1336932
I too did get angry with Bane even though I'm not a Patreon supporter, annoyed with mostly the same characters getting updated over and over, sub 5 minutes long updates, but after looking at almost all other furry VN's and games like Notes of Hearts, EA, Nekojishi, Project AEgo and even Echo, Bane doesn't hide any parts of the game behind a paywall, the new update is available to everybody and you don't have to wait 2 weeks or a month to get access. It has been months since I played Echo and that's only because they started putting updates behind a paywall, I played the first chapter of Notes of Hearts and it was really good but the next update is only available on their dis cord to which you gain access only by pledging on Patreon and the R18 version will only be available to Patreon supporters which is so stupid to me, when the game is finished only a few people of maybe thousands will get the "full game" and the rest of us "most of" the game. I know people are still not entirely satisfied with Bane, but at least the game is fully available for everybody to enjoy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 07:11:55 No.1337018
>>1337009

True, the visual novel is free but the thing is, despite being one of the higher paid Patreon projects out there, every update doesn't seem to bring that much content. With not much being released every month or so, only one can wonder when will even one route be finished, let alone, will Blackgate ever be finished?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 07:53:54 No.1337028
>>1337018
That's probably just laziness on Bane's part, and true that still the amount of content released in one month is barely close to some other projects but still more than past months. And if this was a true game making company they wouldn't really allow this kinds of things to happen in the first place, and since Bane is the owner of HTBH his staff can't really do much about that.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 00:43:53 No.1337360
>>1337028

Well that sucks. Apparently, Bane is the only writer for Blackgate and there was a time when he went AWOL or whatever, which a couple of his Patrons pointed out. No wonder why a while back, they tried to call in fanfiction stories to be submitted to them.

The most logical thing to do is to find additional writers if they can. Sounds like Bane just can't keep up with these monthly updates.
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Crome Update like when? MRwhat?! 2017/10/30 12:56:29 No.1341559
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So, i just need to verify something, is bane still working on Crome's rote, or is it due to lack of Crome paying, or Bane no knowing what to do with his rote.

Also is bane even going to touch any of the construction rotes? I am new to blackgate so im not aware of how Bane runs or writes the novel.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/10/30 16:07:26 No.1341617
>>1341559
Nobody knows. The top-tier patrons would be right to be utterly pissed though.
Even if they don't pledge anymore, discontinuing them would be a huge scam.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 18:08:49 No.1341656
This game is great ?
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/10/30 18:26:33 No.1341657
>>1341656
I'll be blunt: interesting concept, writing is not bad, most art is pretty, management is piss-poor (so far).
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 07:09:52 No.1341977
>>1341656
If you asked this question 2 years ago i would have said the only flaw was the game's writing.

Now, i would say invest your time in other VNs such as tennis ace, or EA.

>>1341657
Pretty much, the writing has gotten worse over the years and the only routes that are well done is Krane, Gruff, and Rotis. Other routes need to be rewritten, especially Jack and Helle's.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 09:22:26 No.1341996
>>1341977
My biggest gripe right now (besides the lack of consistent updates) is that most routes just feel the same. Looking at Echo in comparison, each route there has its own charm and feels fully unique. Meanwhile in Blackgate, it's like I'm reading (or skipping at this point) through the same stuff over and over as lots of the filler content is basically the same, even copy pasted between the routes only with the name of your sidekick companion changed. And on top of that, Bane obviously doesn't care about ever updating any of the other routes that don't follow the scheme of the police ones.
I fully get why Bane would be burned out from this because honestly, if I were to copy my own work this often I'd be burned out as well.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 10:45:04 No.1342006
>>1341559

I tried Chrome's route once, never liked it nor have I bothered to try it again. His character and motives are just bland, not interesting whatsoever. It was so bad, I just wanted to finish the route as quickly as possible and barely remembered anything he said, other than him saying he was using the main character for self-interest. That bad.

I doubt his route will be continued since not many fans like it either and Chrome himself has stopped paying. I wouldn't be surprised if they just killed the character off and merge it with another route and/or just add another character that is *hopefully* better. Of course, the other options are to just ignore the character or heck, even remove it from the game.

And I use the word "hopefully" loosely.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 15:40:04 No.1342076
>>1342006
I hope Bane doesn't do that and I hope you realize Crome gave at least 2000$ - 3000$ to be in the game along with Malo and Eterni, and all of them being one of the least updated characters is a GIGANTIC ripoff, Bane is ( or was, since they probably aren't pledged anymore ) just taking their money and thats it. If Bane is going to replace him, he should give Crome all of his money back, I know I would because that would be the right thing to do.

And to be honest, I like the construction routes the most; 1. Eterni, 2. Malo, 3. Crome, second favorite route being Kody's. And it's getting very annoying that characters like Alin, Gruff and Krane are being put on some sort of a pedastal and are thus being updated the most, that's also why I dislike them. IMO all of the routes should be updated euqualy.

Edited at 2017/10/31 16:04:59
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Furrynomous 2017/11/01 07:21:38 No.1342424
>>1342076

I liked Eterni as number 1 since he's one of the few monsters who isn't afraid/paranoid like most of the other characters and has "street smarts". Malo is second since so far, he seems genuine enough. Crome, unfortunately, wasn't likeable for me. Of course, that doesn't mean the guy in real life shouldn't be refunded. He pledged a lot of money over a long period of time and got not much in the end. It's just sad even with the money, there's no guarantee you get what you want despite paying.

And other fans did get annoyed with how the police routes got the most updates out of the rest, like a couple of nights more than the other routes.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/01 15:30:53 No.1342474
Damn, two updates within 5 hours of eachother?

Content was ok, but it seems like Chrome is getting really screwed. Spoiler

Kody's update was ok. Not great, but at least there was more content than the earlier small updates.

I'm still surprised he hasn't updated Eterni, hopefully he's next, and gets a nice big update.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/01 23:27:39 No.1342578
last i saw chrome stopped paying so that might be why they killed him.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 00:59:37 No.1342613
>>1342578
Sounds like it, cause chrome dropped his support a few months ago. So killing off the patreon character who is no longer paying to replace with another paying idiot seems plausible.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 03:12:00 No.1342656
>>1342613
I definitely hope that's not the case. I mean, even if he stopped playing it and paying, I refuse to believe Bane would do something that rotten to somebody who paid thousands of dollars already. Although I hate how cold he made Crome's character, and the way he killed him off, unless there's more to it that comes up later (maybe Crome somehow survives?)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 03:15:06 No.1342659
>>1342613
Oh, also, I think Crome is still a paying Patron and plays it because he posted on the update post, saying he was afraid to play the update. I wish he did a reaction video and put it on Youtube.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 05:09:07 No.1342715
Yo, with version 0.77 being released just yesterday for me, is it really true they killed off Crome? I guess I could try the visual novel again after so long if no one is willing to give a confirmation. Otherwise, if true, then I was right, and I hate to be right even if I didn't like the character.

Basically, all the updates spent on Crome (even if little) was completely pointless if this happened.
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Vic Venom Furrynomous 2017/11/02 08:56:33 No.1342812
What I got from a friend; Crome's new content is only 71 lines long.

He got killed in like under 5 minutes? Jesus.

Though a lot rewritten, so... guess that evens it out. But then I would have to restart my save file from scratch to see what I've missed. It's always a problem with rewriting routes, if I load from my old save file, I lose content, but if I start from the beginning... well, it's a chore to get to the new stuff.

Edited at 2017/11/02 10:51:31
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Crome 2017/11/02 10:43:56 No.1342827
Hey, Crome/Serge here!

Don't worry about me, I'm actually really happy with this update!

Bane went back and changed a lot of things in my route from night 6 onwards, He's completely rewritten parts and there's a lot of new content. The main issue I had (With the construction route's being very similar to each other) looks like it's been resolved!

As for those that don't like him, that's part of how he's written, ~I~ don't even like him. He's very cold, upfront and calculating, He's not meant to be a likable character straight off the bat. That being said he's honest with you right from the get go, he won't hide the fact he's using you, He won't try to deceive you and will speak his mind freely.

In a lot of ways, he doesn't have hidden agendas or motives, He doesn't let people grow close to him because anything could happen down there. It just makes things easier, not only for him but everyone in Blackgate, just look at what happened to Alan.

Spoiler

Edited at 2017/11/02 10:48:00
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/11/02 11:23:27 No.1342836
>>1342827
You're a true gent, I must say. If my character, who was neglected for ages, had been updated just to kill him off I'd be rather unimpressed.
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Crome 2017/11/02 12:05:15 No.1342842
>>1342836

Oh, Bane let me know exactly what I was getting into when I pledged, Truthfully I knew this was coming for quite some time!

He has also mentioned a few times that Blackgate isn't going to be a very happy game. It really is only just getting started.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 12:49:37 No.1342852
>>1342842
You died halfway into the game (night 7), so what the hell is going to happen in the next 7-8 nights? Bane did say the construction characters will be getting sex scenes, so how are you supposed to get one if you're dead? The only choice in this update is to fight or run away and the last one isn't avaliable, Bane usually writes where choices are probably going to be but doesn't make them appear in the game since they aren't coded, and there wasn't any other choice menu in the script. So to me all the money you gave him doesn't seem worth it since you died so early.

Also the MC is so apathetic and a complete psychopath, sees his partner die before him and is like "oh well lets continue" which is the worst part of the update for me. Mabye the town should be afraid of him.

Edited at 2017/11/02 12:55:34
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Crome 2017/11/02 13:21:43 No.1342862
>>1342852
In the previous updates Bane did say he was going to add a sex scene when the two are cuddled up on the cave floor, He's just not gotten around to it yet!

I think the MC was just in shock, Remember he's very numb to everything. It all feels like a big dream

Edited at 2017/11/02 16:26:04
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/11/03 11:56:34 No.1343182
>>1342842
I see, thank you for making that clear.
I still hope there will be an alternative route where he survives, since there's a lot of character development potential. (Also it bugs me that so far 2 out of 3 scaly chatacters end up being portraited as assholes and get killed)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 01:30:40 No.1343435
>>1342852
What you described is a sociopath. A psychopath would be someone like harely quinn. As the days goes on, The shock of being in blackgate should have subsided but his apathy towards the others in the game tick me off at times(I.E Gruff's night 8 when this dude runs off to mom's grave and he calls him desperate) It's to the point where i do think he's a sociopath.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2017/11/06 12:02:10 No.1344518
Welp, just played through Crome's route and despite him being the coldest character so far, it was still a very sad scene.
There's still a tiiiiny hope he somehow survives, though. I mean, we did not actually witness his death. He might show up encased in an edgeless stone later. Maybe MC will figure out how to break him out?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 16:12:49 No.1344581
>>1344518
I just hope that not all of the construction characters end up the same way, Malo is with the MC so mabye both of them will make it out. There are more ways to make the player feel emotional for the characters besides just killing them...

Also, isn't it kinda wierd that we pretty much have very little backstory for any of the characters? We learned that Jack has a son, Rotis' was a captain, Gruff was born in BG, Aradina is Plox's niece?, Krane was a royalty from where he comes from, Vincent used to be an explorer, Kitako was a baby when he arrived in BG, Longma used to work for a sage, Alin we know nothing about his life outside of BG, Kody's route was changed so IDK, Helle used to be a farmer, Crome was made fun of, Malo wanted to start a museum and Eterni's species used to hug a lot to survive. I just want to know more about them, like in Echo VN which I know is nothing like Blackgate but you learn more about the characters' story as the game progresses but in BG you don't learn much.

Edited at 2017/11/06 16:41:30
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 05:19:37 No.1345270
>>1344581
I think what holds BG back from giving you more backstory on characters is Days(Nights). 13 days isn't really enough to give you a back story of the characters. Example, Jack. During the first few nights he was acting more of a mentor/father figure then after night 5 he 180s into an obsessive psychopath demanding you to call him daddy pretty much all the time(I get that calling some one daddy/mommy during sex is hot but out side of the bedroom it can get annoying to down right creepy.) I felt that if we gotten a few hints of true self during the previous days it wouldn't have felt so forced.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 00:45:00 No.1346417
Besides this and Morenatsue, are there any other furry VNs that have a human MC?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 20:35:17 No.1346546
>>1346417

Ocean Blues: protagonist is a gowk, but you might find him endearing
Amorous: you can have a human protagonist, but noone recognises it
Extracurricular Activities: protagonist is most likely a human, he acts like one at least
Angels with Scaly Wings: if you want a typical visual novel, then this might be for you
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 20:21:55 No.1347507
>>1346417
Nekojishi was recently released
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Furrynomous 2017/11/18 01:18:46 No.1349263
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Furrynomous 2017/11/18 01:18:48 No.1349264
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>>1349263
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Furrynomous 2017/11/21 02:44:31 No.1351218
>>1346417
Check this one.

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/25453680/
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Furrynomous 2017/11/21 08:00:54 No.1351393
Last new sex scene when I played was the handjob in the car with Gruff. Have any been added since then?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 21:11:00 No.1352931
How I can have Gruff road ?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 21:22:54 No.1353738
>>1346417
BeastxLight
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Furrynomous 2017/12/01 08:50:33 No.1355243
It's that time of the month again. Bane posted an update for Longma except he split it into two updates to charge people twice. Fucking hell he's not even trying to hide it.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/01 22:03:34 No.1355472
>>1355243
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed, the past couple of updates were good but it seems he is slipping into his old ways. He considered the first part 4k words, but over half that was copypasta from the other library routes. The second part cut out when things were about to get steamy, which is a shame.

Longma's route is also very strange. We know he's a mole from the other routes, yet nothing is mentioned about the Insightful in his route. It's also the quickest to lead to sex, which is quite jarring. I actually like that about him though, it only makes sense seeing as his culture is totally different. It could be one of the more interesting routes if his sex drive gets out of control, and he becomes addicted to it. Alin has a strong sex drive but he has tamed it due to social pressure.
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Furrynomous 2018/03/03 19:40:57 No.1400530
>>1247255

how do you get that scene? i've never gotten it before
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Furrynomous 2018/04/26 15:41:36 No.1426748
Last time I played was since the gruff car handjob.

Have any new sex scenes been added since then.
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Furrynomous 2018/06/06 00:38:12 No.1447181
>>1342076
To be honest, it seemed to me like Alin and Gruff are supposed to be the closest thing to a canon route there is.

Also, pretty neat seeing one of our own here. I didn't really expect it-

Edited at 2018/06/06 00:39:27
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Furrynomous 2018/09/01 01:08:50 No.1488473
Does anyone even care about this VN anymore? lol
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Furrynomous 2019/05/06 11:21:57 No.1585725
Personal update on my own end. Got to night 8 with Krane. What the fuck.

Edited at 2019/05/06 12:27:54
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Furrynomous 2019/05/07 06:37:48 No.1586113
This game and this thread is so dead, The twitter is dead. Everything's dead and all I want is just Gruff... :(
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Furrynomous 2019/06/26 08:56:09 No.1606478
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Furrynomous 2019/07/12 02:32:01 No.1612640
This VN being dead to the community is just so sad.... it used to be so good.

Edited at 2019/07/12 02:32:55
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Furrynomous 2019/08/10 16:23:50 No.1629612
Is it me or has Darkgem's art really taken a nosedive since this game?
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Furrynomous 2019/10/12 06:35:53 No.1656350
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1131420/For_a_Better_Country/

Hmmm. Doesn't this trailer sound familiar?
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Furrynomous 2019/10/14 03:56:17 No.1657392
>>1629612
I wouldn't put it that way. He has done some amazing pieces after Blackgate. But lately he has been making his art a lot more simplified. Less rendering, less dynamic poses, simpler lighting, and he has been posting art less often. He might be in a creative slump.
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Furrynomous 2020/01/25 02:37:36 No.1705036
No more art?
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blackgate Shadow 2020/10/26 17:21:37 No.1837755
I can't believe how long after it's prime I discovered Blackgate! After finishing built 0.137 I've been reading about it and the old fan theories and such. It really is sad that it's gotten to be this way, it had such potential to be a masterpiece. Anyway I was attracted to Blackgate by seeing artwork of Krane and because I love bats decided to try it. Well, Krane is the most interesting and tragic character of Blackgate, at lest for me. To tell the truth, I'm not really very interested in visual novels, just this one got my interest. Now as a writer myself I do have to say there have been times when I literally only finished a sentence or two in a month, so I give Bane a break there. But I do think that when people are paying him he should try to give some more effort! If I got paid monthly for my writing, I'd be a lot more motivated! I would love to see Blackgate completed, I'd be happy to help Bane with proof reading and plotline ideas!
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2020/10/31 22:08:36 No.1840865
>>1837755
Fun's over, and has been for quite a few years.
The guy's just mooching off the patrons that are too lazy or deluded to cancel their pledge.
Besides, how would he need a proof-reader if he only writes a handful of lines for each "update" at best?
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Blackgate Shadow 2020/11/02 00:02:53 No.1841458
>>1840865
True, its a shame as I found the story really good! I would have loved to discuss theories and such about blackgate, but I discovered it too late. I saw in the history that he was getting like $4000 a month from patron! Now it's at$529! I admit if I was creating a vn like this, I'd be tempted to drag it out for money. But really I think he lost the enthusiasm he had at the beginning. I saw his post about how and what inspired Balckgate and he seemed to have lost it and gone on to just milking it for money. Even if I cold actually afford it, I'm not such a fool to become a patron of blackgate. I still wish it could be completed though as I truly love the story and characters, but I have doubt about that. As for proof reading, in my playthrough I saw several grammatical and punctuation errors. I would have proofread the entire thing, not just the newest updates. I wonder if Bane ever reads this page? Anyway although blackgate might soon be dead, my own story inspired by it may become a visual furry novel someday.
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Graygum 2020/11/02 18:05:06 No.1841901
>>1841458
hey listen blackgate is pretty cool and i agree with you that writing is hard and bane is still going at it. even if has dragging it out. if you really create a vn inspired by blackgate please dont do the same things bane does. if you have trouble or as for help dont become an extorter! ive seen some of your writings and even though you need to put some work into your character personalities you really do have interesting story ideas.
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Blackgate Shadow 2020/11/02 22:37:55 No.1842002
>>1841901
Um, do I know you?
Where did you read my writing?
Are you Gumamorios?
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Graygum 2020/11/03 23:59:07 No.1842574
>>1842002
We used to chat about your stories years ago on the old sci-fi sharing forum. I saw your post about Blackgate on fa and looked it up finding this page. you said nerly the same thing so I recognized you. I sent you an email. lets chat somewhere else this place is dead.
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Sapphire21 2021/06/14 02:53:46 No.1963179
So it looks like the Crome route has not been forgotten after all!
I haven't played the update yet, but once I'm done with the other VNs I'm playing now I'll do it

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