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Shit Artdecade says Furrynomous United States

2016/11/09 22:07:19 No.1175216

Lol like if anyone one will do this.
All talk but nothing
Edited at 2016/11/12 01:13:53

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Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/10 15:01:52 No.1175453

To be fair. There would have been many more deaths, violence and uprisings if Clinton had won. All the crazy sided with Trump, and he was grooming them to violence were he to lose in the final days of the election.

The only consolation from a Trump win is no civil war

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/10 15:03:07 No.1175454

>>1175216

lol, yeah go ahead, dont pay your taxes, enjoy the irs anally raping you with fines and prison time.

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/10 19:02:13 No.1175529

>>1175454
I doubt he doesnt , he did boast about being able to live off income from artdecademonthly.com ....Maybe he doent report it and collects gov assistance hence his naive thinking that anyone can choose not to pay taxes.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/10 21:43:26 No.1175591

It's a valid act of civil disobedience.

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/10 21:54:37 No.1175593

>>1175591
>refusing to pay taxes
>a valid form of civil disobedience
WRONG

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/10 22:00:58 No.1175599

>>1175591
Valid is subjective,

and if I were to play 'sjw advocate' just some privilaged white asshole trying to out of payin taxes.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/10 22:27:51 No.1175612

>>1175599
Well, many non-violent protests against a government a person believes to be wrong have been conducted in this way. It's his right to protest, but it should go hand in hand with a disqualification from receiving services associated with what his taxes would pay for.

>>1175593
You're not helping, please crawl back under your rock and stop bothering the people who can talk without grunting.

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/10 22:48:49 No.1175617

>>1175612

thing is, if you dont pay your taxes you can get charged with tax evasion, which is a crime, and can be put in federal prison. so unless you count crime as "valid" its really a dumb idea.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/10 23:22:36 No.1175627

>>1175617
Well, I thought this would be obvious to you Americans.

"No Taxation without Representation."

It's quite obvious that almost 50% of the country are not going to be represented for the next 4 years. The President is Republican, the House and Senate are Republican, and soon the Supreme Court is going to be 5/9ths Republican. It's very likely the other half of the country that are Democrat are never going to be heard or taken seriously, which is a lack of representation.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/10 23:29:06 No.1175629

Actually, this is why I love Canada!

We have Many parties, so all the crazy SJW's and their inane opposites form their own parties and get ignored like they should. So that their voices are heard and may eventually get into some form of power, but we don't really get all Rabid and Fucking Terrifying to everyone around us when we have to elect someone.

You yanks have imo the most seriously fucked up form of government I have seen.

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/11 00:21:17 No.1175642

>>1175627

i dont think you know how the taxation laws work pal.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/11 00:33:03 No.1175646

>>1175642
Oh, I know how they work, and that in some aspects they are broken. Especially when it comes to Corporate Tax Loopholes and those that only the Rich can exploit to end up paying less than those who work for minimum wage.

I'm just saying that while it is illegal, it is still a valid form of protest. Seriously though, the first protests of the American Revolution were protests against Taxation by a Government that supposedly treated them like wastrels.

Do I as a Canuck, really have to remind you as a Yank about this?

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/11 11:22:23 No.1175736

>>1175646

yeah and those protests led to a war, and since the u.s. would like to avoid another war within themselves, if you dont pay your taxes you go to JAIL. and then nobody cares about your cause. its not a valid form of protest, its tax evasion, thats a crime it makes you a criminal not a protester.

Furrynomous Germany

2016/11/11 15:22:19 No.1175833

lol how can Trump be a racist, when he worked with so many black people, can anybody explain?
Many people calling his supporters fascists, racists and stuff do look and sound a lot like Kelly
https://coub.com/view/gjh0t

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/11 16:59:09 No.1175856

>>1175833
Well, there was the time that he disallowed blacks to rent an apartment in any building he owned back in the 90's. There were several law suits that he settled on back then over just that.

As for his supporters being racist? I'm quite sure that alot aren't, except for the neo-nazi's and KKK members who openly support him.

I believe there's actually going to be a KKK Victory Parade honouring Trump scheduled in the next couple of days in N. Carolina.

Furrynomous Brazil

2016/11/11 17:58:06 No.1175876

>>1175856
Well, unless Trump says he liked the KKK or the neo-nazis support He's not racist. The fact that they support Trump doesn't mean Trump himself likes it.

It's not like he openly sucked the dick of one KKK leader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4wo9nqWrwE

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/11 20:07:07 No.1175905

The US anti democracy protests grow. What will the US government do when furfags working under the table or simply collecting goverment assistance stop paying taxes that they didn't pay in the first place?

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/11 20:52:13 No.1175918

>>1175593
>guy who popularised civil disobedience, Thoreau, was jailed for not paying taxes
????

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/11 23:33:07 No.1175964

>>1175918
>wanting to emulate the original goth
Lmao
Go be stupid somewhere else. If anything this should be a lesson to keep paying your taxes.

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/12 00:42:36 No.1175970

Gandhi didn't pay taxes

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/12 01:18:35 No.1175977

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his new banner...

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/12 01:21:38 No.1175978

>>1175970
He also hated black people

Furrynomous Canada

2016/11/12 02:00:58 No.1175992

>>1175978
From what I'm reading on the claims of his racism. Not really.

As a young man yes, it can easily be seen as racism. There are two factors which guaranteed that he would be Racist. First being the times, racism was the social norm of the day, you could not exist without being racist in the late 1800's. Second was the Indian Cast system which all Indians were raised in, which almost ingrains a person to some level of racism regardless, and makes it seem natural.

Yes, Gandhi was a racist when he arrived in South Africa. But from accounts I've read, his time in jails and hospitals softened him to a far less racist person than his peers of the time.

Mona Sahlin Sweden

2016/11/12 02:33:01 No.1176007

AD is just sad to see posting, it's like watching the ravings of a lunatic.

I remember seeing someone point out that he used to draw cub and sick shit of it to then theorize that he's gone full selfhatred guilttrip SJW as a result.

Don't know if that is his reason for going deep end but it makes sense to me.

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/12 10:25:13 No.1176109

>>1176007
He used to draw violent rape and said once that it 'helps him calm down'

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/14 03:51:40 No.1177422

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>>1176109
Makes sense
Perhaps that is why hes getting more and more obsessed with the antifa movement...since they promote violent means to deal with political opponents and all.

of course he'd never leave the saftey of his own echochamber to do this but his retweets of violent promotions probably are a substitute fro violent rape art he can no longer draw

(also look at his fucking icon XD , what a edgelord)

Furrynomous United States

2016/11/14 14:10:18 No.1177544

>>1177422
edgelord and cuck, it seems

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/15 22:19:51 No.1249090

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Just because you may know a few nice Somalis does not mean Islam as an ideology is gay friendly .

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/16 09:08:33 No.1249225

>>1249090
>any semitic religion being okay with sexuality
This has never been a thing. Not bahaism, not islam, not christianity, not judaism.

Sir Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/18 21:32:03 No.1250449

>>1249090

Why are leftist shits love conservative extremists so much, as long as they are not conservatives from western societies? I guess as long as its anti-Western its cool and hip?... even if he's trying to imply that the religion most notorious for torturing and killing gay people, and still does so today... is somehow friendly to gay people???

The cure to antifa is a self administered cock to the head.

Edited at 2017/04/26 16:47:09

Sir Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/20 00:30:44 No.1250796

>>1250449
So, what you're saying is that you are a guy who doesn't seem to know his ass from a hole in the ground?

The Left doesn't care for the Right no matter what religion or geographic location they come from. What we do is deal with it and try to educate you guys on the right to why you are so ignorantly wrong without violence.

The only problem though is that's the only language you Righties seem to speak and are fluent in. Over React First, then if you can be bothered ask questions later.

Edited at 2017/04/26 16:51:08

Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/20 03:26:12 No.1250832

>>1250796
There is a level of irony in this post you don't see that often.
The way to get through people is to find common ground on some issue and see where people draw the line. This way of dealing with issues is having a debate. Everything isn't black and white and there should be some nuance with some issues.

Furrynomous Ireland

2017/04/20 17:35:02 No.1250964

>>1249090

>in Arab-Muslim countries until Christianity showed up

Christianity began 600 years before Islam.

Before the Rise of Islam, most of Arabia was pagan, and therefore relatively tolerant of homosexuality.

After the Rise of Islam and the decline of Arab paganism, this tolerance disappeared. It had nothing to with Christianity, it was all Islam.

Edited at 2017/04/20 17:37:04

Sir Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/20 18:17:08 No.1250980

>>1250796

You are such a radical extremist that you think liberal = rightwing extremist who deserves to get beaten.

How about next time you guys think about throwing a firecracker into a free speech rally, you do everyone a favour and eat that firecracker instead.

Edited at 2017/04/26 16:52:39

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/21 21:06:40 No.1251516

>>1250796
>leftist tries to enter a debate
>loses the battle of wits
>resorts to petty attacks and threats
every time.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/22 23:25:38 No.1251992

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If you type "artdecade' in the search bar on furaffinity the first thing that comes up is a picture of himself and in that comment section is a link to another pic of him.

and I gottah say he looks demented.
which is not surprising given Someone who gets off to violence in his earlier years but ever since being programmed by social peer pressure (as you can see him admitting it) ..he can no longer openly get off to it...so what better outlet then antifa, two birds with one stone as well to have his ego stroked by blind fans feeding his virtue signaling (with the hand emojis and ebonics "PREACH")

so perhaps rather then actually caring about minorities it's just an outlit for his natural violent tendencies?

I suppose he tries to be 'woke' to mend the fact he was nothin more then a violent backwater West Virginian inbred hillbilly...but always will be no matter how cultured he fronts himself to be with pretentious awful music and mahjong or whatever .

Quark

2017/04/23 03:02:29 No.1252049

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>>1251992
If that's true the arc of his life is identical to Cartman's
Oh my sides

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/23 03:41:05 No.1252058

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>>1251992
Jesus fucking christ is that actually how he looks like? I'm genuinely scared of this fucker now

#LetArtDecadeSayYeehaw

Edited at 2017/04/23 03:49:40

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 04:03:00 No.1252077

>>1252057
apologies this was not out of malice I actually felt bad for him...perhaps his old self is deep down in there . Surrounded by woke 'friends' trapped in that hipster shell hearing bullshit all day having to play the part to avoid shunning....#freeartdecade

Furrynomous Indonesia

2017/04/23 04:04:43 No.1252078

>>1250964

Not only that. Some of Arab tribes and society were Christian. There were already Christians in Arabia before Islam was invented.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 04:07:35 No.1252079

>>1252072
yeah but some are worse.
Do you know why christianity is not as bad..secularism...it was allowed to be mocked criticized free speech etc..and look at it now in decline...meanwhile fools like you do not show the same standard to islam...the people who pay for it more are the ex muslims, gay muslims, and liberal muslims (no the fake ones who are actually salafist) ...

stop being a coward...let islam be reformed ..

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 04:25:57 No.1252095

1252057 oh another thing we "steal" peoples art from paid web sites by sharing it when we were supposed to pay....you are 'stealing' from artdecade if you lay eyes on his work,.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/23 04:43:10 No.1252113

>>1252077
This.

Can we honestly just start a #LetArtDecadeSayYeehaw hashtag

Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/23 06:45:45 No.1252144

>>1252077
>>1252113
His old self was shit. Just like his new self is shit. When people don't use their brain as a processing unit and instead only regurgitate whatever they've been fed onto the carpet, they end looking up like that. Whichever side of the fence they're on. He's not the only one here with this problem.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/23 06:58:08 No.1252146

>>1252144
Call me a moral crusader, but I'd much rather a person have shit opinions and be true to himself than have shit opinions and not be true to himself, even if in both cases their beliefs go against my own.

Edited at 2017/04/23 07:00:40

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/23 07:32:43 No.1252151

>>1252072

Remember Christianity in Africa (not to mention the rural US) has a different attitude than Christianity in Europe and in the urban US. The Euros are okay with being gay but African Christians... not so much.

Shit Artdecade says Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 12:38:01 No.1252237

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>tfw the pulse shooting was done by nazis

Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/23 12:42:52 No.1252241

>>1252146
He wasn't relying on his own opinions in either case. Both before and after, he was only ever brainlessly adopting the opinions of his surroundings. Realizing this, what you want isn't really for him to be true to himself, but rather for him to brainlessly follow the ideology you support.
>>1250964
This is an example of a guy promoting people be true to themselves by developing informed and educated opinions. Notice how different he is from you.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 13:14:33 No.1252251

>>1252241

missed the part where the greekanon said "even if in both cases their beliefs go against my own"

so that would imply he did not approve of neither ..but at least in one he wasnt being fake.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/23 14:56:29 No.1252291

>>1252241

congratulations on not reading the entire thing

refer to >>1252251

Notice how different he is from you.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 15:07:16 No.1252293

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8189823/

"I'm blocking folks but leaving every comment. No need to even refute them, everything speaks for itself."

Then he censored 15 comments and disabled commenting.

Edited at 2017/04/23 15:10:16

Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/23 15:11:35 No.1252294

>>1252293

Imagine what a sad life you have where you not only care so deeply about people posting comments you don't like... but you take the time out of doing other things just to censor them, after implying you wouldn't.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/23 15:27:37 No.1252300

>>1252237

Kek. He left that comment in response to one I made at a similar coward who prefers to use the censor button against anyone who disagrees, then blocked me before I could call him on his bullshit.

I could point out to him that non-islamic right wing attacks are usually lonewolf crazies whereas left wing attacks are perpetrated by organised terrorist groups, many of which were still active until recently; that terrorisim perpetrated by the radical left is second only to islamist terrorisim in bodycount and geographic spread... or that he is attacking a fucking strawman in the first place since the original comment was calling for universal condemnation of ALL political violence regardless of its origin or target.

But apparently that isn't enough now, and if you're not actively in support of normalising violence you're obviously a nazi sympathiser. Because calling for peace and measured reason is something a nazi would clearly do.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/04/23 17:19:32 No.1252400

>>1252251
>>1252291
I read the thing the whole way through. What you missed in my post was the underlying implication I was making about Captain Greece being a hypocrite who was only giving lip service to tolerating differing opinions.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/23 18:31:21 No.1252417

White knight here! Full disclosure: I like Art Decade and his art and have known him for a long time! He's annoying with all the politics but who isn't these days LOL like 70% of what goes on here is stale /pol/ memes from two months ago anyway LOL

>>1175529
He does live off his art and on sales of comics and other stuff, commissions, whatever. He actually wrote up a whole thing on how to do taxes for artists and how to lower your tax burden and stuff. It's on tumblr somewhere.

>>1176109
I've seen people claim this on here before but never with any proof? He has drawn rape before, mostly for commissions I think (I actually commissioned one of them but not telling which :3c ) He's never said anything about enjoying it specifically to me though. He's posted about regretting some of his old rapey stuff. TBH I think this is lame, I'd love to commission more gore and rape from him LOL but whatever not hard to find another artist for that

>>1251992
I just checked FA and that photo actually doesn't come up at all when you name search him. I remember that photo and it was posted by one of his friends or something ages ago. It's since been removed. Which means you kept it and made up a story about it just to post it here LMAO. Seems like a perfectly healthy and sane thing to do!
When you actually search there is one photo of him looking like a regular furry dork with a handkerchief around his neck and everything. It's from seven years ago though on some rando's page. I saw him again at MFF last year and he looks like a normal bearded thirty-something year old now. The photo you posted was a license, that's what those watermarks are. Can't personally claim to have been in the best mood when at the DMV. But then again I'm not a weirdo that saves photos of people I don't like just in case a thread like this opens LOL
Also I don't know if any of you lived on a farm but guns and killing animals are really normal in that lifestyle. You know that that's what happens on farms right? And that the meat your eating is an animal corpse? lmao. He's really anti-gun these days but I'm pretty sure he isn't against gun sports and hunting.

>>1252294
If you look on the journal you'll notice he posted reasons for deleting comments. I think he was afraid of trap links and stuff because people were posting to 8chan and to fake news sites, and he deleted posts with slurs, stuff like that. I haven't talked to him in a couple weeks so I dunno about that yet.

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/23 21:01:29 No.1252456

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Here's the hot take of today.
https://twitter.com/artdecaderoo/status/856316918730567680

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/23 22:25:28 No.1252481

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>>1252456
So he's watching this thread. Bring on the criticisms; he'll likely see them and rage about it too!

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/23 22:25:29 No.1252482

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>>1252481

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 00:00:30 No.1252514

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>>1252481
What a idiot.
the furry raiders are just as much a edgelord as he is...not literal nazis...any more then Artdecade and His Boyfriend Compsix/comp5 is a literal pedophile for drawing and masturbating to illustrated violent anthropomorphized animal child rape porn....by that logic he should be treated as a literal child sadist pedophile.
(said graphic example image has been censored with image available on FA)

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/24 00:35:26 No.1252536

looks like a spy told him imgur . com /a/Tkewd

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 00:42:45 No.1252541

>>1252539
Subscribe to his website at Artdecdemonthly.com...rather then fap to it for free here....if you care about him so much.

and no not bullying but discussion ,over a well known smut monger using his platform to advocate unprovoked violence that he himself will never have the balls to do ..but perhaps some naive plep will because of him and hurt themselves as a result.

Edited at 2017/04/24 00:49:28

Furrynomous Brazil

2017/04/24 00:49:31 No.1252548

>>1252539
How about no?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 01:19:58 No.1252559

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>>1252557
>>1252514

okay so he doesnt read it..therefore he doesnt care well then neither should you..and perhaps you just ignore this thread and go back to fapping his art for free rather then paying for it? How about that....we gud?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 02:00:22 No.1252567

>>1252562
relax this threads not gonna make him rage quit art since thats his only job and he probably cant get employed anywhere else in the real world. He'd snap

so dont worry
take a seat...have some tea and biscuits and watch as your country slowly erects more muslim praying towers .

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 02:40:00 No.1252575

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Unprovoked ? of course not or anyone for that manner...If someone initiates physical provocation you have the right to immediately defend yourself...There is no room for chauvinism that portrays all women as damsels in distress with leftism.

Stop putting women in the frontlines as meat shields then mr white knight.

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/24 02:57:59 No.1252588

>>1252573
I'm not really attacking him as an artist, though I could do that if I felt like it. My criticisms are with him encouraging violence, even if they are ultimately bad people.

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/24 04:31:33 No.1252608

>>1252596
For someone who lives in England you sure have a shitty grasp of how English is supposed to look.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/24 07:27:02 No.1252662

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>>1252481
Hahaha holy shit, here's me thinking he won't ever take notice of this

I'm glad he did though, this manchild deserves nothing more and nothing less

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/24 07:57:27 No.1252666

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Feeling bad for a kid who got beat up by black people is racist

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/24 10:11:31 No.1252719

>>1252481
Actually I sent him that. He even also wrote on His Twitter. I don't think he visits here, he did not say it to me if he does.
https://twitter.com/artdecaderoo/status/856357805116325888

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/24 12:36:44 No.1252777

>>1252719
Thanks for snitching on me, you dumbass. Although I did get some satisfaction in telling him off, as much as it did little good.

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/24 12:48:25 No.1252790

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Fuck, I just realized he can only draw two kinds of faces, Jesus Christ.

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/24 12:55:34 No.1252795

It is a little strange to me why People are angry at him? I think in America there was recently many Rallies for various Racists groups. KKK, and Nazis and other. But People are surprised and harrassing Others when They talk out against it? Americans are silly People, and also many Canadians it seems.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/24 13:48:41 No.1252806

>>1252795

Sure, if by 'racists' and 'kkk' you mean people protesting in favour of free speech after the recent shit-shows at Berkley and elsewhere; it is after all far easier to just slander them than actually address their points and concerns.

The old adage 'I disagree with you but will fight for your right to speak' seems to be very much in play.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/24 14:01:03 No.1252814

>>1252790
Henri and Graham are literally the same character. It's just that Graham has cheek tuft fuckin hell

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/24 14:02:02 No.1252816

>>1252803
Can someone please shut the incoherent faggot up? Mods? Anyone? Mute this person?

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/24 14:30:25 No.1252824

I saw many Photos of HitlergruÃŸ Nazi Salutes and Iconography of European Nationalist Groups. And Signs that say racist Slogans too. To Outsiders it appears to be Americans are very racist. And People here on this site are defending it as well. In a more mature Society you don't have these things. Germany was not mature once, too. I think we remember how it ended XP

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/24 14:40:50 No.1252826

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>>1252824
Americans are dumb, Germanon and even they know it. 312m people for a country is way too much, they need to be purged

the more the people, the bigger the room for autism

also, give us our war money

Edited at 2017/04/24 14:41:22

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 14:42:31 No.1252827

>>1252790
I still dont get
how he thinks he's honoring Muslims but having a homosexual rabbit named after their prophet .

Im pretty sure theyd be pissed some smutt monger did so if they found out.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 14:47:49 No.1252829

>>1252795
>being this cucked
holy shit jewmoney, I know you love the taste of somali cock after it's been in your wife but save some for sweden will you?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 14:50:42 No.1252830

>>1252824
>I saw many racist groups
No, you didn't. You saw normal people and your lying media painted them as racists. Even if you were correct, even if they were all racists it is not morally defensible to advocate violence against people simply because you dislike what they say.
I realize that your country has a propensity towards fascism and is all too eager to jail people for their political opinions. But in a free country it is generally looked down upon to infringe upon people's right to express their viewpoints.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/24 15:46:19 No.1252848

>>1252824

Really now? I call bullshit. Having followed those events closely and just now spent the last 30 minutes searching for racist signs and iconography at the Berkley protests, the closest thing I'm able to find to anything racist it on EITHER side was a 'black power' banner. I think you're speaking through your arse.

But mostly I call bullshit because race is completely fucking irrelevant in this fight; it is entirely about the authoritarian left infringing on the constitutional rights afforded to citizens under the US Constitution. It is entirely about neo communist and anarchist movements trying to touch off a swastika scare, and use political violence as a power grab because they cannot win over anyone but naiive, idealistic students at the debate table. They've tried entryism into the center left and DNC, and as a result destroyed them to the point that a creature like Trump is seen by many as a more viable alternative.

Now there is a violent, intollerant ideology marching in the streets. They like to dress head to toe in uniform colours, put on arm bands with authoritarian political iconography, burn shit, scream slogans and beat people into comas. They are utterly convinced that there is an immoral nefarious foe who is strangely insubstantial but at the same time behind every corner, and that they have a moral mandate to purge these people by any means they care to. Oh, and if you're not on their side you're against them and obviously colluding with the enemy. Liberals get the bullet too!

I ask you: where does this sound familiar, and why do YOU think people are protesting against this? I should not be having to describe parallels between antifa and the brownshirts to a German for fuck sake.

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/24 18:04:39 No.1252950

Well I will prefer to trust Our Media, after seeing Yours XD I think in a more mature Culture we can handle such a simple Concept that Racism is Wrong and is not good for Culture or Anyone. But like He says, Americans are dumb XD

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 19:44:08 No.1252987

>>1252950
>lives in an authoritarian nanny state
>accuses others of immaturity
amazing levels of projection
>racism
Nothing about Donald Trump is racist.
There is nothing racist about criticizing a religion, there is nothing racist about locking the door to your home, or in this case country. No one is entitled to enter.
But I suppose children like you are incapable of grasping the concept of sovereignty and ownership.
Which is why your country has been the absolute shame of Europe for over 100 years.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/24 20:06:13 No.1252995

No wonder no one wants to come to your country anymore. Just a lot of uneducated racists screaming down every street. American education is sad. It's easy to see why so many Americans are angry tbh. I feel bad for them.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 21:04:08 No.1253082

>>1252995
I'm so sorry your education system is so poor that you don't actually know what racist means. It's ok, having English as a second language must be hard

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/24 21:46:48 No.1253092

It is interesting that working with others for Good of all the People is considered something for Children to You XD You must have very smart Children in America.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 22:15:20 No.1253102

>>1252995
Pfft yeah no one wants to come to our country no more...thats why so many illegals are caught then sent back then trying again..

and thats not necessarilly a good thing if the type of people who come over a bad hombres like the islamist colonizing your country having no respect for even leftist values..

If you hate whites fine..but if you a gay queer how is it logical to have you country slowly become an islamasized colony?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/24 22:15:39 No.1253103

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>>1253092
>Good of all people
Importing Islam is bad. Not good
Your media covered up the sex attacks on new years committed by the migrants. Your country is disgusting
Arresting people for speaking their minds is bad. Not good. Though I'm not surprised a German doesn't actually know what's good for the world considering you've almost ruined the world twice before and needed Britain and America to put you back in your place. Looks like the third time is fast approaching.
Typical deluded kraut

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/25 01:00:51 No.1253158

>>1253102
Fox News: More Mexicans leaving US than entering, study says
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html
Do Americans ever google things before saying them?

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 03:46:27 No.1253208

>>1253186

Name the fake facts, would you kindly. The tone might be condescending but everything our American friend said is true- Germany did make an effort to cover up the 2015 Cologne sex attacks, and there has been a general trend of downplaying the extent of violence, particually sex attacks.

Yes, there are a lot of radical political movements in the US, but I will worry when they start bombing people or ploughing trucks into bystanders in the name of jesus and not before. Words are words. Violence is violence. One of these things is acceptable, the other is not.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/25 05:07:30 No.1253223

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>>1253218
Proportion is pretty important. No one is justifying these other terrorist attacks. The problem is Islam is so violent that it is objectively and measurably worse than any other belief system.
Cucktianity reformed. They don't stone people anymore. Islam still does

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/25 06:53:30 No.1253228

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>>1252987
>>1253082
>>1253102
>>1253223

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 08:58:33 No.1253252

>>1253229

So what would you have, then? See, we've been doing as you have said for some time now and it really looks like it hasn't worked in the slightest. Have some sobering fucking reading:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

I will also note that this is actually getting WORSE with the younger generations, not better: for example 36% of muslims under the age of 24 want apostates to be killed, compared to 19% of those aged over 55.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6309983.stm

What this points to overwhelmingly is that the pussyfooting approach of tollerance and acceptance of religeous differences has completely fucking failed. It has allowed radicalising elements free reign over the impressionable younger generations and dripped poison in their ears. And that was back in 2007- before you had lunatic Wahhabi mosques springing up like mushrooms in every city, or radicalised Salafi-Sunni wannabes pouring in from the Syrian clusterfuck with blood on their hands.

This is a state of affairs on a downwards trend, that cannot be allowed to continue. If the establishment continues to keep its head in the sand and ignore it, sooner or later the mob will take matters into its own hands. The mob does not discriminate; they'll lynch the moderates along with the radicals and let Allah sort them out. Decidedly not a desirable state of affairs.

We've tried the carrot in the vain hope that simply being in the west would be a moderating influence, and it has failed. Best case scenario currently is that islamic fundamentalists will be discontent and agitate for more extreme stances; worse case they are an active threat. Might be time to break out the stick on fundamental islamists; stop taking refugees until we have a vetting system in place, and start deporting those who put their backwards-ass religeon above our law and liberal values.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/25 10:33:38 No.1253266

Moslems countries have been attacked by Americans and European imperialists for decades. They were split into different regions arbitrarily after the European imperialists exited the regions after World War Two. Israel has walled in many thousands of Moslems in Palestine and America prevents anyone from helping. Is that not also terrorism? But you guys had one little plane attack and ruined the whole over it. I suppose it doesn't count as terrorism if Captain America is the one dropping the bombs and putting people in Gitmo LOL.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 11:53:09 No.1253286

i have noticed terrorism is only terrorism if its by any other country or religion haha

Leo Howler Canada

2017/04/25 13:24:33 No.1253326

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Hey guys, while this is fascinating political discussion, aren't we forgetting why we're here?

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 14:37:37 No.1253345

>>1253320

Nice copypasta. How about you try coming up with your own arguments rather than recycled strawmen?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/25 15:36:58 No.1253358

I think the problem is that most Europeans don't really know what 'race' is, so they slap racism to immigration. I've heard people from Europe describe people from other areas or even countries as different races, like Eastern Europe or Russia.

Western Europe was pretty much more or less homogeneous (race-wise, not culturally) until recent times. They never had the same experiences as how things happened in places like the US where blacks sometimes outnumbered whites locally and vice versa. Not excusing segregation at all but it was never a big deal for Europe as they didn't have other races to deal with. Yet they think that because of what happened in our past, they can now spread the gospel about how wrong we are and how right they are.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 15:43:57 No.1253361

>>1253347

It really isn't, because it is a dishonest comparison. In that cute little story bad stuff just happens by magic and no one is to blame. In reality the group that the man is part of has members actively causing bad shit to go down and as many as one in thee of them are in support of it. All of them necessarily share the same core beliefs and tenents- they just vary in their methodology.

This is called guilt by association, and it is a fallacy; sucks for the blameless man but that does not mean that the organisation as a whole isn't loaded with lunatics and poisinous ideas. Or to put this another way, would you trust someone who defends the KKK on the basis most of them never actually killed anyone?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/25 17:45:49 No.1253409

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Furrynomous United States

2017/04/25 17:47:10 No.1253413

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he's unhinged

Edited at 2017/04/25 17:47:34

Furrynomous Mexico

2017/04/25 18:10:49 No.1253429

>>1252790
two? I only see one unless having the eyes covered counts as another face lol

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 20:17:00 No.1253478

>>1253347

please dont assume things because im from a europian country lol im from northern ireland i know quiet alot about terror attacks yet i have never had them done by muslins only christian extremeists , you live by that logic all furrys enjoy sex with real animals , every cristain is at fault for every terrorist attack done in the name of christanity hey and while we are at it hilter liked dogs OMG every dog lover is a jew hating nazi hellbent on killing them all , wise up your backwards style of thinking will just sink things deeper , in that cute little story you missed the point , things that happened out of the persons control , ie a muslim born and raised in usa living a normal life and working following laws is now the one to blame for all the terror attacks cross the globe and states ?? that is no where near fair to assume all of them are bad because of extremists "All of them necessarily share the same core beliefs and tenents- they just vary in their methodology." same core beliefs as christianity , cathlics where alot stricter (killing and hunts for those the bible seemed as impure ) till the rise of protestants after all the indulgence sales and shit happened and cathlics dropped all them beliefs as have sooooo many muslims which you are blaming , extremeists of any religion are monsters muslims are not no religion is wrong or right in the way they do or belief its all opion and morals , christianity is a good example of how things can change , and also mutilation is still being practiced legally in most contrys in the for of jewish cercumsision of a child which is something they do in muslim culture with females but oh no when muslims do it its sooo soo bad , (btw i dont promote any mutilation i think jews are bad on that point ) no one should make decisions like that for a baby for any kind of god or religion beliefs, you link muslims to everything that most othe religions can also be linked to (EDIT) there is nothing that muslims do that christianity has not all ready (not a fact just from things ive seen and read )

Edited at 2017/04/25 20:22:33

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/25 21:12:18 No.1253509

i know nothing about antifa or their ways than from what i looked up ,but read this carefully so its not misunderstood , i agree with what they are suppose to represent anti racism and shit like that but by no ways do i agree with stupid kids being pains and hurting people in the name of this i hate people who claim to be doint the right thing when all they are doing is their own thing

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/25 21:21:27 No.1253518

>>1253361
What a small sense of Reality you have. It is easy to understand that bad Ideas inspire Others to Hatred and Violence. But you say it is fine, as only some in the club for Racism have murdered XD How insane XD And of course you will say next, but also Muslims, only some murder, like KKK. But left Wing say Muslims are okay. But of course it is that 99.9% of Muslim do not agree with Terrorism, but 100% of KKK do agree with spreading of racist Ideas. XD

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 07:22:36 No.1253661

>>1253527
In 12 Muslim countries you can be executed legally for being homosexual. That is not extremist Islam. That is mainstream Islam. Your average muslim has a 50/50 chance of being an ISIS sympathizer. The problem with islam is that it is at its core not compatible with western values.
In many middle eastern countries they still have slavery.
It's just one of those philosophies that's bad. Even on paper.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 07:24:16 No.1253662

>>1253518
Found the turk.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/26 09:16:57 No.1253689

>>1253518
>But you say it is fine, as only some in the club for Racism have murdered

Actually that is not what I said at all. Tell me, If I won't accept ideologically motivated bullshit from Islam, why would I take it from the KKK?

My point was that both organisations inform those who subscribe to them with tenets that justify and motivate violence. Individuals within the organisations may well be relatively normal people who keep their beliefs to themselves; but that does not mean the organisation and what it preaches is not rotten to its core.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/26 11:36:57 No.1253709

They are trying to make Artdecade seem like crazy but I think this comments here made me think opposite. Defending racists and bizarre fantasys about Europe and immigrants. And sad attempt to mock his style. Don't you peoples post Japanese Kemono artists and watch anime 10 hours per day? It all look the same too! Lol.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 12:17:47 No.1253723

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>>1253716
>Find real facts
Ok. From the Pew research foundation

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 12:19:48 No.1253724

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Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/26 15:07:42 No.1253780

>>1253716
>>1253709

>Ignores several different posters providing peer review statistics and links to news and scholarly articles backing up their claims
>Address none of the contentions
>Provide not a shred of evidence as a counter point
>Sidestep refuting or even acknowledging any points raised
>Just keep calling them racists, that'll do

This is why the far right is on the rise again, just so you know. The left has handed the intellectual debate to them through its refusal to participate without resorting to ad hominems.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/26 17:04:43 No.1253850

All talk with right wing Americunts is impossible, you have to always explain very simple concepts so many times. How to have a discussion when they can't admit Trump and his people are racist. Even when it's so easy to find. They don't even think of science is real! XD Also when they say 'moslems are bad' but then poop in their cloths when someone also says 'white people are bad' XD

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 19:56:22 No.1253926

>>1253850
Wowie European narcissism at it's finest, narcissism that blinds you to your own stupidity and ignorance.No wonder you country is fucked.

ah where to start,.
Criticizing Islam as ideology is not the same as generalizing an entire race .

Not all muslims are arab as you can see Chechnyan Muslims who are white just recently adopted a policy towards homosexuals similar to their arab and Persian counterparts. So is saying those muslims are fucking evil racist?

Its not that all muslims are bad there are certainly more profgressive ones like the Kurdish people .

But as someone posted here
>>1253723

there is a serious issue of Islam globally not really being as reformed as say Christianity and Judaism.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 20:00:25 No.1253931

>>1253709

Baraking get back to working on the comic "the heat of the moment" before your country collapses and you end up thrown off a building by the new authorities of the Dutch Caliphate.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 21:47:57 No.1253955

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>>1253850

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/26 22:15:36 No.1253957

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Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/27 06:36:30 No.1254061

>>1253850

So... more incoherent wibbling about racisim with no evidence or substance. Way to prove the point here >>1253780

Anyone ever tell you that islam isn't a race, it is an idea?

Furrynomous Indonesia

2017/04/27 08:43:42 No.1254086

People who say islam is a race is the real racist IMO.

They can't differentiate between... say, an Arab, an Indonesian, a Persian, a Turk, a Pakistani, and a Sudanese and lump them into a big "People of Colour" group.

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/27 10:38:55 No.1254106

Everyone know that Excuse XD Of course Muslim is not a race. But Racists treat Them with Traits of Racism regardless. So call it Bigotry then. All of your Arguments are simple Wordplay that a 10 years old Child can cut apart. XD

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 12:03:55 No.1254126

>>1254106
No it's leftist such as yourself that conflate islam with race. Their have alway been racial minorties in europe in recent decades..but this mass rape invasion by people with a backwards culture who do not care for your leftist values is something else.

The irony is your irrational fear of another nazi uprising may simply just lead to islamofacism anyway.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 12:06:03 No.1254127

>>1254086
The piss poor excuse I've heard is that

"well the global majority is not white"

The same for Christianity you idiots...Yet Mocking or criticizing being deemed racist would be absurd right?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 12:08:07 No.1254130

>when you move to America from Lebanon to escape how shitty Islam is
>Visit furry site and post statistics explaining why it's a shit religion.
>Retard German calls you white supremacist
>>1254106
You're probably not even German. You're probably a '''''''refugee''''''

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 12:09:06 No.1254131

>>1253957

that's actually made me laugh of course in america Police would probably use fatal force against someone trying to use a molotov.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 12:10:26 No.1254132

>>1254130

be pretty sad if he was...being a pervert if he's on this site yet wanting a culture that would stone him for such habits.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/27 13:18:27 No.1254148

AHAH in this case I suppose all American are want to kill gays. Because your Westboro church is American, correct? LOL. You are so uneducated you don't even know that is 52 of 57 Moslem countries this acts of barbarism for punishment are banned, and in others it is only in barbarian communities that these things happen, and also rare. Did you also know it's 9/10 Moslems in the world say Sharia is for Moslems only? And 85% of Pakistan Moslems is ok with Christians, but only 61% of America Christians is ok with Moslems? LOL. Every new comment proves bigotry and ignorance XD

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/27 13:52:46 No.1254169

>>1254106

Why is it so impossible for you to accept that people can have have issues with the doctrines of Islam without trying to equate it to an irrational hatred based on skin pigment?

If the arguemtns are so easy to cut apart, go right ahead and do it then. We're waiting.

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 14:52:26 No.1254222

>>1254148
Again you say more moronic things while calling everyone else stupid.

A church composed of only a few dozen members all related is your worst example of American christian extremism? Give me a break.

homosexuality is still illegal in many muslim majority countries you also large amount of vigilante justice as was the infamous case with Farkhunda Malikzada, who was lyced for falsely accused of burning a Koran..Sure there were protest after , only when it was found out she didn't do it.

Edited at 2017/04/27 14:53:07

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/27 14:56:24 No.1254224

>>1254169
Leftist social coercion or as Lebanon-anon pointed out probably a 'refugee"

If it's the first one I can see why , he's convinced himself these bullshit fallacies are infallible.Since thinking outside leftist dogma that is rampant in this fandom which could lead to stigma terrifies him. (as might be the case with person whos the subject of this thread)
Even on an anonymous image board he still cant question himself..not even feeling safe within his own thoughts as if his peers could some how read his mind.

Ignorance is Bliss
Stupidity is Paradise!

but only for so long before the consequences of you short shortsightedness bites you in the ass..and shocks you into reality.By then Islamic prayer towers as far as the eye can see and no more beer gardens

Edited at 2017/04/27 15:01:15

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/27 14:57:21 No.1254225

>>1254148

>52 of 57 Moslem countries this acts of barbarism for punishment are banned

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Use_of_Sharia_by_country.svg

The countries in green are the ones that have a system of Civil Law superceding Sharia in all capacities. The rest practice Sharia in at least some capacity. As I am sure I do not need to tell you, Sharia is a religeous jurusprudence that does not conform to the standards of evidence or requirements for a jury to secure a conviction as Civil Law requires. It also codifies the punishments that the guilty party is to receive as well as the statutes regarding things such as civil liberties. Sharia permits corporal punishment.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Map_of_judicial_corporal_punishment.svg

For comparison, these are the countries that actively practice corporal punishment as part of their JUDICIAL code. Please note that the above does NOT include those countries currently undergoing insurgencies or widescale civil unrest propegated by hardliners such as Syria, Iraq, Libya and Lebanon where islamists are known to enforce sharia in full within areas they occupy.

Your statement is categorically false. The majority of predominantly islamic countries practice some form of judicial exercise that would be considered barbaric by the standards of Common Law.

>Did you also know it's 9/10 Moslems in the world say Sharia is for Moslems only?

Again, wrong. 45% of those interviewed disagree with the idea that islamic law should apply only to muslims.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

In many countries Islamic law IS the law of the land so by definition a non-muslim living in a state that practices sharia as its civil law are subject to the strictures of sharia law.

>And 85% of Pakistan Moslems is ok with Christians

I was not able to find any data on this point specifically, but given that 76% of Pakistanis support death for apostasy, I find it extremely fucking unlikely.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/27 16:45:52 No.1254258

All of information I found was from the report that you link to so much. Read the opening paragraphs. LOL. Did you skip this part? If you knew history at all you would also know that each society struggle with same transformation from barbarism to modern times. Just like Christians kill and burn witches for years, and have three crusades and then occupy middle east and India and other places for decades. And now you struggle in same way with bigots and health care and education. You are still amateur. Instead of try to help or teach or try to understand problems, you throw bombs and forget your own history in that areas. You say is for protection, but whole world watches and sees through transparent statements like this. You have a war economy to justify, I suppose. You throw bombs to solve problem just like terrorist do. You still think it's okay for KKK and racists to have a rally and tell children that blacks are n****rs and immigrants are rapists, just like many Moslems think it is ok to have a hate rally against Jews, or Americans, and tell their children to hate them. You are both immature cultures. You are both more similar than different. Too bad there is not a stronger society to throw bombs at you when you mess up. Maybe teach you a lesson next time you ruin world economy and start endless drone war. Oh well. You will get there one day, if you do not collapse first. LOL.

Furrynomous Indonesia

2017/04/27 18:36:54 No.1254281

I identify as a "liberal" and uphold values such as equality of sex and gender, or that homosexuality is not morally wrong. Because of these values I upheld, I have issues with Islam.

(Examples of homophobic verses can be found in Qur'an 4:16, Qur'an 7:80, Qur'an 26:165, Qur'an 27:54, Qur'an 29:28)

Before you call me racist. I'm brown, and adherents of Islam around me are people of my skin colour.

Edited at 2017/04/27 18:41:22

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/27 19:28:40 No.1254318

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>>1254258
>Read the opening paragraphs

Actually I did. I highlighted the relevant bit for your convenience, since you apparently fail to understand the cultural context of what is being said and why it is worrying that so many want it.

I suggest you look up the word 'Dhimmi' since that might shine a light as to what the muslims surveyed are getting at. But I will explain it in brief: they want a two-tier system of law. One that applies to muslims (sharia), and one for everyone else. They'll recognise SOME freedom of religeon and legal status for the kafir, let them hold their own courts and conduct their own business. However dhimmi law will be subordinate to Sharia and as a result dhimmis will always, fundamentally, be second class citizens. They historically also had to pay a jizya or kharaj for the privilage.

This is exactly the opposite of a universal, accountable legal system that exercises equitable practice to all petitioners. It is NOT a good thing; it is a relic from an age where centralised legal systems were not possible to enforce in any expident manner, and where religeous rather than secular governmental principal held sway. It opens the system to abuse, as is exactly what happend to the dhimmis in real life.

I couldn't be arsed to do much more than skim read the rest of your incoherent blithering. I'll leave it to the Americans, since that outpouring of bile seem mostly directed at them.

Furrynomous Netherlands

2017/04/28 12:15:24 No.1254555

You should kept reading because you will get to part where I criticize Moslems. LOL. People think I am defending bad Moslems. This is why I say you are amateur. The point is not defending Moslems. It's compare two violent child cultures. And to show that right wings make problems worse. America right wing and Moslem right wing are at war and bring down everyone around them.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/28 14:09:00 No.1254575

>>1254555

I would be more keen to address the rest of your post if it stayed on topic. Beyond your referencing the report which prompted me to clarify the cultural context of that particular datapoint, your text was entirely irrelevant to pointing out the noted statistical falsehoods of your post here >1254148.

But since you want to compare cultures, I will humour you.

>show that right wings make problems worse.

And that is why I will contend that you are an ameature in understanding the socio-political landscape that you're wading into. The Left vs Right wing fight is only the very surface of it, which has developed as the parties align their stances based on popular talking points. Fundamentally this is a conflict of libertarianism vs authoritarianism.

The fact that people on both the Left and the Right are coming together in their criticizing of Islam should clue you into that. Some of the most vocal criticisim of Islam comes from Libertarian Left skeptics who are opposed to throcratic ideology in all its forms, seeing it as divorced from testable reality. The Libertarian Right, likewise, takes a stance that individual liberties and secular law must be protected. This puts them at directly odds with the religeous conformity required by Islamic law.

This is also why the Left has polarised to the point it is imploding; Progressivism has become authoritarian and this reflects its stance in many, many issues Islam among them. They believe they should have the right to control what is and is not said, what opinions can be expressed and that ideas they deem 'racist/sexist/bigoted/etc' should be cracked down upon at the expense of Free Speech. The libertarian left is steadfastly against that, believing that the fundamental freedom to speak is more important than what is being said.

The Right, on the other hand, has unity in this regard. The libertarian right are of the same mind as the libertarian left, and the authoritarian right see encroaching islam as a threat to their own established base of power, which it is.

Edited at 2017/04/28 14:18:34

Furrynomous Germany

2017/04/28 14:34:59 No.1254581

Reading the Sun will certainly lead You to this moronic Conclusions XD Can't wait for stupid British to leave Union. You guys messed up bad. Your Economy already down and haven't even started "Brexit" yet XD You will have a real Dose of what Libertarian is when you are paying thousands for simple visit to Hospital and various Corporations control and sell every Aspect of your Existence and People have no Power XD Hopefully smart British take control from Morons like you XD

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/04/28 15:09:36 No.1254604

>>1254581
It would help if you understood what the motivating factors of politics actually are before you try talking about it. Otherwise you miss the point completely, as you did here.

For reference I'm talking about the Y-axis of the political compass. Western liberal tradition, not libertarian movements like the tea party et al.

Furrynomous Brazil

2017/04/28 22:48:40 No.1254841

>>1254581
Enjoying the Rapefugees?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/29 12:17:38 No.1255038

The fact that the Muslim in Willy Bear Beach is named Muhammad is something that would make Islamists furious.

Imagine if it was translated into Arabic and was placed in the bazaars of Saudi Arabia?

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/29 12:20:21 No.1255039

BTW plenty of same-sex activity happens in Saudi among both the dudes and the ladies (read "The Kingdom in the Closet" from The Atlantic) - But the idea of openly acknowledging the homosexual stuff is what pisses off Islamists. They know it happens but want to pretend it doesn't. The idea of sexual acts defining who you are is seeping in as well...

The name "Muhammad" would be the straw that breaks the back of the poor camel.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/04/29 14:22:36 No.1255066

this is seriously just an all out ethno-war with americunts and europeans about refugees

continue

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/29 14:45:26 No.1255072

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>>1254581
LMAO, the absolute state of Germans

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/30 00:36:50 No.1255222

>>1255038
Or if the local Muslims in his neighborhood found out.

Edited at 2017/04/30 00:38:07

Furrynomous United States

2017/04/30 03:18:55 No.1255241

>>1255038

That wouldn't be a bad idea. Hack the game to remove R-18 warnings (and any premature notions that it's a gay dating sim), and do a videotape of a random Muslim guy from the area sitting down and playing the game. Watch as he realizes what it's about.

Furrynomous United States

2017/05/01 20:44:10 No.1255969

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Now he vegan, :3

Furrynomous Greece

2017/05/02 11:46:50 No.1256237

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>>1255969
Somebody please. Please somebody just end his fucking misery

how fucking insecure do you have to be to virtue signal THIS much

Furrynomous Mexico

2017/05/02 14:25:53 No.1256309

>>1255969
>takes 5 cows to make a burger
this kind of exaggeration reeks of tumblr.

Furrynomous Russian Federation

2017/05/03 16:43:33 No.1256748

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Are there any other antifa artists? Just so I know whom to ignore.

Furrynomous United States

2017/05/03 19:57:34 No.1256799

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also changed the fist icon to a furry fist holding rose.

So ironic...the Rose is the result of Selective breeding as a result of capitalism to breed the best flowers to sell .

Furrynomous United States

2017/05/03 19:59:25 No.1256800

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this man is more successful then you no matter how sophisticated you try and make your smut .This man has more recognition.

Furrynomous United States

2017/05/04 01:18:58 No.1256877

>>1256799
He seriously made the most prominent "inter"national(lul) socialist icon furry. This guy has to be trolling, nobody can seriously think that way.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/05/04 10:27:56 No.1256966

>>1256877

Poe's Law at work. If he is trolling, he's doing a damn good job of making socialists look like drooling mongs.

I have no problem with this.

Furrynomous Russian Federation

2017/05/04 13:05:25 No.1257051

>>1256966
I don't think socialists have any problem with this either. There's definitely crazier types.

Furrynomous Greece

2017/05/05 06:52:09 No.1257339

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>threads like this basically everywhere on the internet
>always big, relevant countries like America, Canada, UK etc
>meanwhile in third world countries

Furrynomous United States

2017/07/29 13:30:50 No.1298918

Am I the only one here who thinks Artdecade is a hypocritical douchebag who shouldn't be taken seriously AND isn't a racist/Islamophobe/hypercapitalist/etc.?

I mean, the dude is CLEARLY co-opting movements in an attempt to metaphorically bleach his undies and trying to hypercorrect for the disgusting shit he did in the past and may very well still be doing, but god damn

If you fuckers are going to just incessantly spout discredited pro/pol/ganda and memes based on fake, refuted, and/or willfully misinterpreted statistics you're going to actually bring people to AD's side

And I don't mean they're going to look into socialism and antifa and be like "hmm yes these are beliefs and messages I can agree with", I'm talking about "I will start supporting this artist just to spite people", and if you actually know a goddamn thing about this guy, then that's a really shitty hill to die on

If anything other furry socialists and antifascists should denounce this guy and ostracize him so they aren't guilty by association, because this is far from the first time some kook has latched himself onto the underbelly of a political cause and they've had to pry him off

Henaru Rhysuni United Kingdom

2017/07/29 19:07:57 No.1299036

Okay wow...so much...off topic....

Anyway...How abotu we get the ball rolling with this:
https://twitter.com/artdecaderoo/status/891166917335101440

It's a very nice sentiment and one I think we can all reasonably agree with coming from Art Decade. That said...is he being totally honest with us about it? Simple little test really. Anyone that's was blocked by him years ago, say 5...go and see if you're still blocked. The Tell us your current block state with him along with what his reason for blocking you was. The more pathetic the reason, the better. because if you're still blocked you've proven that right now...on this day...that's he's a hypocrite. I know there's probably "evidence" that you'll all be eager to link...but that's just easy for his supporters to dismiss. This isn't.

Because in truth 90% of what people do to you on the internet...isn't that big a deal, and isn't really worth blocking them for...at least not more than a month or two because short of hacking you and doing what they can with what they learn to do any number of malicious things, nothing any of us type to each other is really gonna matter. We have lives offline after all, and in the end what we do to each other isn't going to have much of a consequence on our us IRL anytime soon. Maybe soem might have some effect but most have none, unless we let it.

On another note.

>>1254581
It's because of people and politicians in the EU like you, that made me vote to leave it. I was undecided, and didn't trust the politicians to be honest with us, and finding information out about the EU to prove or disprove either side's claims was near impossible. The EU is TERRIBLE at sharing information. Apparently there's a law that forces us to grow cucumbers straight even though they can grow bent like a banana. Couldn't prove or disprove it through the Brexit debates no matter where I went, or who I asked. So in the end I was going to vote remain because I didn't want to "rock the boat" but then comments from the rest of Europe started coming out, all the Eu member states...and they we're just utter arseholes about us...with no real justification for it either. One Politician from France said the ENTIRE British people are too stupid to be given the vote. And you...you all did nothing to defend us...so I and probably a few others voted leave because of your inaction, because of your pettiness, and malicious behaviour towards our nation. You proved the EU is nothing more than a group of bullies and so far your leader has proven it more and more. And we've all been bullied in the past, at school, at work...at home. And speaking personally I've had enough of putting up with bullies. Hence the Leave vote. If you'd all just kept your mouths shut or actually tried to convince us to stay, we'd never have left and disrupted the EU's delicate internal balance. So the real reason for all that comes the good and the bad, is your own fault. We're just reacting.

Wulfy

2017/07/30 07:14:30 No.1299316

>>1175453
You are horribly ill-informed.
>>1175529
He gonna get audited. D: The government knows when public expenses should be un-payable for you. They'll find out. (ie, house with mortgage but no job).

>>1175612

In the United States, not paying taxes punishes you with civil action. If you ignore paying the taxes with which you are charged by that action, you go to jail after your assets are frozen.

>>1175629
And yet the SJWs end up controlling the government through majoritarian-ism. Despite the complaints of the two party system, it's pretty clear from the stunted politics in Washington that not all Republicans are cut from the same cloth.

>>1175627
A quote without context:
That dealt with Britain refusing to include representatives in parliament for her colonies. In this case, "50%" is represented in the legislature. In fact, the democrats control 48 seats in the senate. I do not have the House break down, but it's not an overwhelming majority.

Further, most states and local governments have far more impact on daily lives of citizens, so if people really cared about their representation, then they should go there.

>>1175833
It's a pretty typical way of lying. You must understand that certain black individuals for whom I hold tremendous respect and whose opinion I value are called "race traitors" for the grave sin of not being a democrat or left-leaning politically.

Examples: Economist Thomas Sowell, Justice Clarence Thomas.

Since both are "conservative" they are "not black" which is nonsense.

Let me clarify: I value the left's opinions. I can honestly have a meaningful conversation with liberal-leaning people. However, the current situation is "FUCK THE CONVERSATION, RACIST."
That... is unhelpful and very harmful to the conversation. Just because some people share a general "side" to the political spectrum doesn't mean they are all the same type of person. Unfortunately, public discourse against the left is very often disrupted with claims of racism and blocking ideas that are "hurtful" to "certain groups."

>>1255969
*Sigh* Eating meat is no more ethical or unethical than not eating meat. If cows were not bred for consumption, the species would die out.

>>1256800
HOLY SHIT: is that real? Rob Schneider got something right? Jesus Christ, the man isn't funny and has never made a good movie, but he said something that was somewhat clever and actually on the point? +10 respect.

>>1257051
Russia? I want to have a real conversation with you. A productive one. Like, really, if you wanna talk, let me know if you have some sort of messaging service. (Also let me know if posting in a PM about certain topics could actually cause ramifications to you; I legitimately don't know hence conversation).

>>1257339

Oh, fucking,yeah. Slav is were slavery in basically every language came from. Thomas Sowell and other thinkers have really analyzed their history to death in fighting certain modern-oppression-due-to-slavery arguments.

>>1299036

As an aside: I don't think the EU was every really a good idea. At least not in it's bulky heavily bureaucratic form. It was critical that the EU agree to be a united force against threats, but it didn't a good system as it came into being.

That said, while I am not super educated on international differences, I am sure my views on how various European governments should be might be surprisingly tone-deaf or (WHO KNOWS?!) on point. It's honestly hard to tell when you don't live in a country and lack a stronger foundation of understanding it's governing policies.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/08/01 20:11:30 No.1300625

>>1299316
>As an aside: I don't think the EU was every really a good idea. At least not in it's bulky heavily bureaucratic form. It was critical that the EU agree to be a united force against threats, but it didn't a good system as it came into being.

It is a terrible bloody idea. Its OLP has the legislative body as a seperate, non-elective layer of beauracracy operating above two subsidary bodies- one elective, one appointed. Because legislation is passed from the Commission down to the Council and Parliament for approval and cannot be proposed by the Parliament, there is a case to be made that it is directly subversive to democracy. Joe Bloggs has exactly zero influence on who actually runs the show through his ballot, and can neither elect nor remove those who propose the EU's laws and policy and thereby affect the law or policy that end up being proposed; the best he gets is a petition.

The Parliament does have the power to dissolve the Commission, but that is basically on the order of 'shut up and put up' or 'burn it all down' and nothing between. If the Commission decides they don't want to put a reform bill on the table, there is no leverage to force them into doing so. Similarly, if they want something passed and assuming it doesn't get instantly voted down in the Parliament in the first reading, should the deadline for amendments expire in the second reading it goes through without Parliamentary assent anyway. So they tend to bloat their proposal documents out to several hundred pages, let the Parliament and Commission play pass the shit parcle amongst themselves until the 3 month deadline expires and if by then the Parliament can't make up its mind, the whole fucking lot goes through without anyone directly accountable to the public actually approving or amending it. Its only if the Parliament still votes it down and it goes into a third reading that a neutral outcome results in the act failing.

Furrynomous Germany

2017/08/02 03:54:53 No.1300876

>>1300625
>Joe Bloggs has exactly zero influence on who actually runs the show through his ballot, and can neither elect nor remove those who propose the EU's laws and policy and thereby affect the law or policy that end up being proposed; the best he gets is a petition.

The commission is made up of people proposed by the president of the commission and accepted by the EU countries' leaders. The president of the commission himself is also proposed by the countries' leaders and has to be accepted by a majority of EU-mps. The commission can also as be dissolved by the parliament, as you already said.

How is this not a representative democracy? Isn't this similar to how the UK chooses the prime minister and the cabinet?

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2017/08/02 18:13:46 No.1301061

>>1300876

Not quite. The UK's prime minister and cabinet as a part of their party must be directly elected to the House of Commons by a plebicite. Because they are directly elected they can also be directly removed from office come the next election. This places pressure on them to be accountable to the public in their policy, and to look after the interests of the public or face losing their position; hence they present a platform to run on for election, and if the public like it, they assent.

The MPs who make up the Commons are also directly elected on a regional basis by the same metric, and can likewise be directly deposed in by-elections. If a cabinet member loses their seat, they lose their place on the cabinet. Lords may be appointed to a place in the cabinet, but this is heavily frowned upon for obvious reasons.

Your analysis of the EU is correct- but you missed the part where the appointment of Commissioners is indirect and cuts the public out of the loop completely. Because they're appointed by the Council, the Commissioners are accountable to the Council, and only to a lesser extent the Parliament. The Council itself is also an appointed body, and whilst the Council members presumably vote which way the head of their state tells them, this is still another layer of beauracracy between the public and the Commission, and waters down the influence of the Parliament which IS elected by the public by competing with it or laying out the framework in which the Parliament must make approvals.

The EU's method of governance more closely resembles how an appointment to the House of Lords is made; but the House of Lords is little more than an advisory body to the House of Commons and wields very restricted powers. In the EU the Parliament IS the advisory body and has no power at all to propose legislation or policy, and can only vote on proposals sent down from the Commission. It is pretty close to the opposite way around from how the UK works in that regard.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/08/05 15:01:40 No.1302462

>>1301061

Holy shit. Good thing you guys are getting the fuck out then. It sounds like an empire that allows its vassal states the minimal amount of democracy just so that they don't rebel.

Welcome back to the world of sovereign states.

Furrynomous United States

2017/09/12 06:22:40 No.1320493

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>mfw all this with the furries and still no thought that maybe nazism is just a fetish

Stop kink shaming me you cunts.

Furrynomous Mexico

2017/09/14 09:08:44 No.1321139

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This triggers the artdecade

Furrynomous United States

2017/09/15 07:29:25 No.1321516

>>1321139
He also still looks at the gay hillbilly porn, just now he also looks at gay muslim porn too.

Furrynomous Mexico

2017/09/20 12:29:12 No.1323266

>>1321516
oh that was from another account, one who actually lives surrounded by muslims, which is funny because AD claim muslims are peaceful and tolerant but coming from someone who lives with them proving him wrong can be problematic for his agenda.

Furrynomous United States

2017/09/23 16:28:54 No.1324666

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It's not like artdecade even has any presence in the furry "community" anymore. He was popular some five years ago, but now?

He doesn't make comics; his art has deteriorated into the same-looking characters for a while now; I can't even remember the last time anybody brought him up, that's how irrelevant he is. He's a relic.

Why even bother giving attention to this creep?

Wulfy

2017/09/24 03:49:38 No.1324892

>>1323266
People are generally idiots. And I mean that sincerely. There is always going to be areas of life that seems super easy to fix and when you're accomplished in one field, you are more likely to assume you can just say whatever about another.

This is where the joke about and old physicist telling everyone else how to do their job comes from.

But it's worse now. Thanks to the validation factory that is social media, people now think they are experts on virtually every aspect of life and offer their dumb opinion on everything. If you hit a bandwagon, the popularity of your dumb opinion creates a feedback loop that you're right.

As it so happens, most furries are gay and gay friendly. Most gay and gay friendly people lean relatively hard to the left. The left appeals to an identity even if those identities contradict. So they have to somehow appeal to being gay and muslim and feminist and (other) and create a group to target as an outgroup. That group is (typically) white hetero males who don't apologize for being white or hetero.

So, we end up with people siding with groups who incite violence even though their protesting someone who welcomes opposing view points. A couple of professors at Harvard (or Yale) had to resign for dare suggesting that students should be given the opportunity to make mistakes so that they can learn from them as that is the point of college (with regards to "guidelines" for costumes).

These are, indeed, strange bedfellows, but the right isn't consequently free of this byproduct.

Regarding he current state of the USA's two party system, republicans have the image of being racist and democrats have the image of being hard-left
A small section of it is
and when that small section is attacked, the whole group moves (or attract people who are) that direction
KKK went democrats to republicans because we defended their right to speak even if we fundamentally disagree with what they
have to say.

Suppose some non-existent party X existed in post WWII Germany, and party X opposed the general desire to purge all traces of Nazi Germany. Why? Because Mein Kampf is fundamentally important to their history. As one might expect, Nazis would flee to party X just because the enemy of my enemy is my ally (not friend).

Consider, democrats purged confederates and KKK members of the South as racists and moved for their removal because they did the horrible thing of having Dixiecrats supporting Jim Crow. Once the 60s happened and classical liberalism prevailed, the democrats wanted them ousted entirely, but Republicans, who were a party founded on opposing slavery, couldn't abide pretending the past didn't happen. Party X would be the Republican party, and so despite fundamentally opposing the KKK, the KKK hid among the right due to its desire to uphold free speech no matter how terrible that speech is.

The democrats, though, are being dragged so hard left that Reagan left the party or, as he put it, "the party left me." It's hard to say if even JFK would be a democrat today looking at his policies, but I digress. Socialism requires the force of government and military strength to enforce it's policies because while bureaucracy works for now, it's hard to say if the union could withstand an actual grab of industries by the government. However, socialism is fundamentally contradictory to the free market approach of the side that wants the government armed to the teeth, so where does it go? Democrats, who have a sympathetic ear, and that's the only way socialism works is via a purely emotional argument.

Anyway, I wanted to rant. Disclaimer: This is my opinion and I am probably super wrong on most of it. Just felt like typing something to try and tire my brain and go to sleep.

Night everybody!

Furrynomous United States

2017/09/24 08:59:37 No.1324928

>>1324892
I disagree with your analysis of the left casting white males as an outgroup and the right holding free speech as its bastion.

Although there are progressives who are explicitly racist towards white males, the general idea which progressives follow is that the perspective of the white male, which has been "spotlighted" for most of western history, is not the only perspective that matters. Since many whites in America have enjoyed a total ownership of narrative, and have largely avoided admitting wrongdoing to appear superior, anything that threatens this image is immediately rejected. This is especially the case for conservatives.

Granted, they don't attach legal repercussions to free speech, but they do create social repercussions. It's the same thing the left does to their political opponents.

This ties into their rejection of true free speech as you claim they have. A example of this is the Black Lives Matter movement. Instead of considering the idea that blacks may be unfairly treated by police and judicial system, conservatives immediately rejected this notion. As soon as many whites saw those words, they flew into a rage and saw it as a threat, resulting in "all lives matter" and "police lives matter", and dismissing BLM activists as terrorists.

Also, the right turned on Milo for his comments about underage consent.

I also disagree with your analysis of the democrats turning so far left. Americans exist in a bubble, and have little awareness of other countries. Compared to the rest of the western nations, the entire economic and political spectrum of America has always been further to the right. Democrats are center-right. And nobody in America is seriously advocating for socialism, at least socialism in its original form. They may be advocating for more socialized institutions (which every nation has some of), but not socialism derived from marxism.

Furrynomous Brazil

2017/09/24 20:40:18 No.1325131

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>>1324928
>A example of this is the Black Lives Matter movement. Instead of considering the idea that blacks may be unfairly treated by police and judicial system, conservatives immediately rejected this notion. As soon as many whites saw those words, they flew into a rage and saw it as a threat, resulting in "all lives matter" and "police lives matter", and dismissing BLM activists as terrorists.

Rioting and burning your fucking city is a go way to get lambed as a "terrorist", just saying.

Wulfy

2017/09/25 00:54:54 No.1325198

>>1324928
On the one particular point of going for left:

I do mean left for American standards, but I actually find the old world's "progressive" nature alarming.

I am, in no way, an expert on European politics, but if I accept as true some of the laws I have heard (just as pure example), then I strongly disagree with a government that would pass them.

Again, it's basically a kind of cherry picking since I don't speak almost any of those languages and can't speak intelligently to them except that from my limited and unverified data, I have yet to agree.

"Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent."

However, I must exclude Britain from Europe as I can (with some certainty) speak to the nature of their government and assess that, but this isn't really on the conversation.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/09/25 16:53:24 No.1325409

>>1325131
Oh, what a shock, three of the four people named in your stupid pic are ones who really didn't do anything.

Furrynomous United States

2017/09/25 23:16:17 No.1325511

>>1325131
This is common with most protests. It's definitely not just BLM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/02 22:04:49 No.1328635

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Artdecade is an absolutely disgusting degenerate dirtbag and a complete disgrace to the Furry fandom.

Right now, he's openly mocking the victims of the Las Vegas shooting, saying it's their fault for not enforcing stricter gun laws and blah blah blah... Basically, his Twitter feed is just a cesspool of victim-blaming virtue signaling.

Imagine if this happened at Anthrocon. Furries everywhere would be slamming him, and rightfully so. But since the people being killed happened to be stereotypically conservative, he thinks he gets a free pass to barf his SJW sludge in the midst of the carnage. What a heartless heap of trash. I sincerely hope Artdecade gets boycotted and ridiculed for the rest of his life.

Edited at 2017/10/02 22:22:08

Furrynomous Canada

2017/10/03 00:41:02 No.1328675

>>1328635
>Right now, he's openly mocking the victims of the Las Vegas shooting saying it's their fault... victim-blaming...
Just looked through his twitter feeds since before the shooting to present. Didn't see anything like that

What I saw was him and others saying that you yanks need better gun control laws, because: Surprise, guns kill people.

He and others were also talking about the hipocracy on display by the politicians who take money from the NRA (An organization that would rather this happen on a daily basis than see people stop buying guns) who then turn around and tweet #thoughtsandprayers

>But since the people being killed happened to be stereotypically conservative
Don't think that ever came up either. There were some tweets worrying about a potential misinformation campaign being brewed up on /pol to say that Stephan Paddock was a muslim or antifa or a leftist nutcase. Except everything I have heard from police coverage and various news reports on him suggest he was just a simple, and very average American with no strong political, religious or political agenda.

>he thinks he gets a free pass to barf his SJW sludge in the midst of the carnage
I don't think I saw any SJW shit from him on this subject. All he seems to have done is argue for stricter gun control laws. Laws which would have prevented a massacre like this from happening.

Personally, I don't really give a rats ass about what shit artdecade says or doesn't say. But frankly, idiot douchebags like yourself who try to spin lies from your soapbox pulpits deserve to be called out when I come across their bullshittery.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 02:32:49 No.1328695

>>1328675

>guns kill people

Show me one instance where a gun has committed mass genocide on its own with no input from a living entity in any form.

Strict gun laws didnt keep men from plowing into people with buses, or keep people from being bombed in several places all over the world, people getting stabbed and assaulted by mobs etc. What people are essentially doing here is standing on the graves of those who perished to push a political agenda. It's the gun's fault somehow. Not the vetting system, not the nations inability to detain those that should be deemed clinically insane or a danger to society, or apparently even the fucking murderer's fault. No it's because guns. because if guns weren't guns, this psycho wouldn't have found an alternative way to murder people. It's a weak argument to think that making something illegal to get would prevent the disasters that can be caused by it.

Edited at 2017/10/03 02:39:28

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 08:10:00 No.1328780

>>1328675

The NRA is a boogeyman, just read our laws and think for yourself instead of reading dumb hitpieces from your echochamber. What a lot of you guys fail to realize is that gun control laws are ineffective for a planned attack like this and in a country where there are over 300 million firearms.

Not only do we already have mandatory background checks, the concert and hotels of Las Vegas were gun free zones. So no, they don't work. In fact, it just makes people work around those logistics since they're planning to hit vulnerable targets. Notice how yhere's no shootouts in gun conventions, but there are plenty in gun free civilian areas like San Bernandino and Orlando.

Am I saying that gun owners can shoot mass shooters? Not exactly, it's that gun owners can discourage the presence of violent offenders in the first place. They nullify any aggression that would occur. People bring up the theoretical, "but what if they shoot each other accidentally", but they fail to realize that gun owners need a permit to walk with a firearm. They have to take training that handle those scenarios before they get a permit.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 08:21:02 No.1328782

>>1328675

None of you guys know what the NRA does. You unironically believe that it's an organization that distributes guns for free, but the organization just post PSAs about the constitution and firearm safety. Not to mention that they're also responsible many of the gun control laws that we have in the US. You and Artdecade are dumb if you claim that a gun control organization is hypocritical.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 09:04:49 No.1328789

>>1328782

If it wasn't for the NRA Las Vegas and Pulse wouldn't have happened.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 09:10:44 No.1328793

>>1328789

Tell me how a gun control organization about Firearm safety allowed Pulse and Las Vegas to happen?

Protip: You can't.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 10:07:52 No.1328805

>>1328789

You mean how they were opposed to the "assault weapon" ban? They opposed it because it was pointless. Let me give a few a pointers.

1. The assault weapon ban isn't a ban on "assault rifles" or automatic weapons.
2. "Assault weapon" refers to attachments on firearms, not firearms themselves.
3. Automatic weapons were heavily restricted since 1934 under the National Firearms Act, a gun control bill made by the NRA. You have to submit another background check, pay taxes to the government, and an government member routinely checks your house without a warrant. They have to do it at least once per month.
4. An automatic weapon is defined by it's lower receiver, a part of the gun that controls the firing mechanism. So if you own that part, you're subject to the same restriction that you had with firearms despite you not having the full parts to make it function.

They did oppose the high-capacity magazine ban, but it's because determined killers plan around those limitations. It didn't seem to work in San Bernandino.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 12:05:44 No.1328859

>>1328675

You're missing the point. If you would just scroll through Artdecade's tweets and retweets, you would see some really mean-spirited remarks about how the people killed in the attack somehow "deserved it because they're pro-gun people" while using the tragedy as a springboard to gloat about how this supposedly "wouldn't have happened" if he got his way.

It's ironic how you claim that I'm the liar when the only evidence you have to back up your views is a shooting with ILLEGAL firearms. Artdecade clearly hasn't done any research on the subject of gun ownership and thus, is merely propagating Twitter hashtivism. It's not like the NRA just went around handing out fully automatic machine guns to irresponsible people because 'murica. Even they have regulations. The main suspect in the attack was clearly breaking the law, so any "it wouldn't have happened without gun shops" argument falls flat on its face.

Ro Koji!RoKoji3/cM United States

2017/10/03 12:26:15 No.1328867

>>1328805
On point number 3, they do not check your house ever. There is extra waiting for additional background checks as well as a $200 tax stamp for any NFA items. For the suppressors and SBR I own there was a on average a 10 month wait before it could be transferred. Source: I'm a FFL with SOT in Virginia.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 12:38:52 No.1328876

>>1328867
>>1328793

Look the men couldn't have killed the people without guns. We really need to ban all guns if we want to stop shootings from happening. What purpose do guns have in society? if you said kill innocent people, your answer is correct. Vote to save lives and ban guns if you care about America.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 12:47:41 No.1328886

>>1328876

And i'm sure all the time that crimes, robberies, and murders were stopped by a citizen wielding a firearm just kind of elapsed in your mind so you could push your idiotic arguement?

Y'know what? Meth is really bad. think of all the crimes and shit that wouldnt happen if people couldnt get meth. So lets just ban all meth. Then none of those crimes will ever happen! oh wait, that didnt work did it. because criminals dont give two shits about what the law says.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 14:42:00 No.1328942

>>1328886

That citizen wouldn't need to use a firearm if there were no guns.

Meth isn't that bad either, it is schedule 2 meaning that it has purpose as pharmacists prescribe it and analogues of it are sold over the counter to help combat symptoms of a cold. Unlike pot which has no medical usage, and guns which has less than no medical usage, and in fact causes medical problems. Lets face it guns are for people with little dicks to make them feel better by granting them power over the most important thing... life.

By supporting guns I know you are either white or asian because you are overcompensating for your small penis size. While I feel bad for you that you have "those" tiny size issues, it isn't worth other people's lives to make yourself feel superior. Please vote with me against global use of firearms. Lets save some lives ^_^

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 16:38:08 No.1328994

>>1328876
>>1328942

You can cut trees with firearms and use them for hunting, but that's besides the point.

The fundamental issue is that you don't think realistically. Here's why your plan won't work.
1. There are deadlier weapons.
2. Firearms in the US have the lowest amount of homicides in comparison to car fatalities. According to the CDC 2014 statistics they made up 11k homicides and car fatalities were made up of 33k.
3. Removing firearms won't prevent planned terrorist attacks. It'll make it easier because they're not regulated to the extent as firearms are.
4. You can't remove all guns in the country through a law. If that were the case, then no would use marijuana anymore. 300 million firearms won't disappear from a piece of papers, it just makes those 300 million firearms valuable and it'll cause underground trade.
5. If you have to think of a theoretical utopia to solve an issue without considering statistics or other perspectives, then your plan will automatically fail. Break out of your bubble for once.

Firearms aren't collected because of an ego thing, but because of how they're complex devices that function differently from each other. They're essentially legos for adults, unfortunately a lot of gay porn artists don't get that. They think that they're being kind from repeatedly ignoring facts and attacking their enemy, but they're ignorant rude people who can't see past their twitter feed. If anything, they're malevolent because they're bringing ineffective solutions that would create more problems if implemented.

Educate yourself on present laws and data.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/10/03 19:07:52 No.1329039

Your facts are sqewed and show both your bias and ignorance of the subject.

Do I think an outright ban on guns would work? Don't know. I can't know for sure and neither can you, because the NRA has muzzled scientists from looking into the issue.

Yeah, gun control is a sensitive issue. But doing nothing about it (and you yanks are quickly doing nothing) is tantamount to cowardice. A failure to even begin studying if there is actually a problem, when there is plenty of circumstantial evidence... Is still a glaring failure.

Stop sticking your head in the sand like an idiot.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 19:20:01 No.1329048

>>1328994

First of all most civilian weapons can't pierce through 6 inches of tree, and I don't know anyone that owns a 50cal... and I know people with uzis.

The reason there are more homicides on the road are because there are more cars owned than guns. It also doesn't help that women and Asians are allowed to drive these days. Guns are all do the same thing, they kill. Banning guns is an effective method of peace. If you don't think so, then tell that to the families of people from Las Vegas, who got raped by bullets.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 20:23:35 No.1329084

>>1329039

There's been plenty of laws and data that state what I'm stating already. Additionally, what you're stating is a false. The NRA has no say on what "scientists" do as they don't access to those records. Law enforcement and federal institutions do.

The issue with gun control is that all of you guys are quick to propose a solution despite:

1. Not understanding our existing laws.
2. Not understanding how firearms work.
3. Not waiting for evidence about the situation to be gathered so that people can take a proper approach.
4. Not understanding what the "gun control" laws mean.

Under any circumstance, it's irrational to form a permanent decision from the lack of information while being under the influence of emotion. Seems like common sense, but a lot of people disregard it. If you were genuinely caring, then you would wait until the full information crops up so that you can make the proper solution for it.

None of you guys can't though, you want want to take action from misinformation that you heard from socialist gay porn artists on your twitter feed.

>>1329048

You're being dishonest. Here's an example of "civilian" semi autos cutting trees:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nn9Q3aY7Sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APCWitWzcyU

I doubt that your friends own "uzis" too. Getting back to the point, no gun ban will work especially if we're close to a country with illegal firearms trafficking. You cannot remove guns or reduce them. Think realistically instead of being in fantasy land.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 20:30:29 No.1329089

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Gotta love how Artdecade is desperately trying to do damage control right now. He just deleted this person's comment on his FurAffinity page.

Edited at 2017/10/03 20:30:56

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 20:30:31 No.1329090

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Just in case any of you still had your doubts about his blatant ties with Antifa, take a look at his FurAffinity watch list.

Edited at 2017/10/03 20:31:32

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/03 21:24:35 No.1329107

>>1329089
>>1329090

From what I noticed, his types provoke users into being angry at them so that they can feel vindicated in what they say. They do realize that they're making far-fetched positions, but they think that they're right in making those dumb views because they squeeze it out of someone that wouldn't say it in normal circumstances. Despite people not being rational when angry.

They intentionally delete/prohibit/block the constructive comments/users because it makes them appear dumb. So they leave bad ones behind to say "SEE! LOOK AT THOSE WHACKY RIGHTWINGERS ARE SPONTANEOUSLY BEING MEAN TO ME FOR NO REASON" despite them being the instigator in the first place, they don't mention the prior events that led to that outcome because it would make them look bad. If anyone is going to target him, you shouldn't chew his bait. It's hard for me not too, so I don't get involved in those circles in the first place.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/10/04 01:10:39 No.1329188

>>1329084
>1. Not understanding our existing laws.
What little laws you do have are laughable. Most are concerned with licencing and taxing the dealers, not the buyers. Only a couple cover them and it's that you have to be over 21 and be an American, with a weak background check system that can easily be dodged. Hell, 30 states don't even require any background check with private sales with an additional 7 states only requiring it for pistols and revolvers.

You guys made a step towards civility with your federal assault weapon ban in '94, which banned "Assault" style semi-auto's and large capacity mags. But then you guys let it expire in '04.

Currently, most states do not require a licence to purchase, own or operate a gun. Most states do not have or enforce registration of firearms. Most states no longer have any regulations on assault weapons.

>2. Not understanding how firearms work.
The user pulls the trigger, which through mechanical action causes a striking pin or hammer to impact the rear of a cartridge. The action causes the ignition of the primer material in the base of the cartridge which then ignites the gun powder within the cartridge thus propelling the bullet out through the barrel at high speeds.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. But if you didn't allow those people to get guns in the first place, then they would have less options with which to kill people. Prohibiting full auto weaponry, and reinstating the assault ban and ban on high capacity mags, may have saved dozens of people in Las Vegas.

>3. Not waiting for evidence about the situation to be gathered so that people can take a proper approach.
So far, the guy seemed exceptionally normal. And I agree, that people shouldn't be rash to make a decision that could have lasting repercussions. But when it comes to gun violence in America, it's more like endlessly discussing the merits of amputation or maggots when gangrene is crawling up your leg.

>4. Not understanding what the "gun control" laws mean.
I'm Canadian and I am in the process of acquiring guns myself. All the red tape I've had to crawl through? Yeah, I know about gun control laws that do seem to work, even if they are laughable compared to other countries.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 01:16:18 No.1329193

>>1329188

Banning something doesnt keep somebody from retrieving said thing illegally, you brainless moron.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 01:56:33 No.1329199

>>1329193

Tell that to Mandalay Bay

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 01:58:59 No.1329200

>>1329199

I could, but speaking to a tower of concrete wont do much good. though i suppose talking to you is pretty much the exact same thing

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 02:50:23 No.1329210

so....when are people gonna leak AD's art again?

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 07:40:47 No.1329249

>>1329188

A lot of what you said was untrue. We already have a 1934 law that prohibits automatic weapons. All dealers are required to perform a background check, even the private ones. The assault weapon ban only bans weapon attachments like folding stocks and suppressors, not weapons.

There are more handgun deaths than long gun deaths, check out the FBI statistics:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls

Semi-auto long guns ("scary assault rifles") function in the same way as semi-auto handguns, meaning that they fire one shot per trigger. pull There's also been a decreasing gun homicide rate in America. High-capacity bans don't work as killers plan around limitations, look at San Bernandino.

Background checks check a wide variety of things including mental illness, check our 1986 law here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

Finally, the killer used a bump stock. A stock with a spring that uses the force from the recoil of the gun to bounce back to your trigger finger. You can ban it, but it's primitive and easy to make as it's just a single spring.

Educate yourself on our laws, firearms, and statistics because no one is convinced whatsoever. There's a good reason why you guys resort to emotional appeal and not law and statistics, because you would be proven wrong by the amount of information that disproves your claims.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 15:27:22 No.1329460

>>1329200

Why should I lower my IQ (200) to listen to you. Gun owners are not very bright. Investing on a machine that they have to feed, pet, and clean, and it doesn't even have payoff. Idiots.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 17:19:35 No.1329579

>>1329460

Usually when you have to state what your IQ is, you dont have a very high IQ.

yeah, cat and dog owners, dumping hundreds, no, THOUSANDS of dollars into their pets with no pay off, just shit and vomit. What retards amirite?

Edited at 2017/10/04 17:20:46

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 18:59:41 No.1329604

>>1329460

Guns are essentially customizable legos that you can test out and mod heavily. Changing a minor part makes it a different experience. They're actually a cheaper hobby as well as they don't require battery life or fuel. They just function properly through just Newtonian physics. Here's an example of a revolver disassembly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfOXBa8K8Ow

The reason why military artist furs are ale to draw guns well is because they know the anatomy of firearms that they are required to disassemble. It's a smart hobby, we do more than shoot. :P

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 21:50:43 No.1329673

>>1329604

"they don't require battery life or fuel"

They need ammo...

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 22:16:21 No.1329689

>>1329673

Only if you want to fire a shell or bullet. The gun is still functional without it as it's mechanically operated without a energy source. Cars and PCs require an energy source, but not firearms.

Furrynomous Canada

2017/10/04 22:40:15 No.1329710

Hypothetical: a child brings a baseball bat to school to play baseball during recess. Many more children follow his example, bats, mits, balls, etc.

But then a couple children end up beating another kid to death or close to it with a baseball bat.

What is the appropriate solution to this hypothetical situation?

Using current anti-gun control logic, we shouldn't discuss the issue until well after everyone has forgotten about it, because people arguing that children shouldn't bring baseball bats to school would be "Politically Motivated" to spin this issue to "Their Agenda". Eventually, nothing would be done at all except maybe expelling the child who committed the beating. And then another child would be beaten to death or close to it in a couple of months or years. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseam.

The fact of the matter is: America has a Serious issue regarding gun violence. And for the country with more guns than half the world, your laws regarding them are seriously outdated and weak.

Furrynomous United States

2017/10/04 23:07:44 No.1329719

>>1329710

If you're using a hypothetical scenario to disprove practical data and scenarios that occurred in reality, then you're already wrong by default. You don't see any aerospace engineer claim that paper airplanes would be a better alternative if in theory: gravity and air resistance were lowered. It would be ridiculous.

Fact of the matter is that long-guns/assault-rifles aren't responsible for the majority of firearm homicides, "assault weapons" refer to weapon attachments, and determined killers plan around limitations like the San Bernandino terrorists (who brought multiple low-capacity magazines that were easier to shoot since they weighed less when "high capacity" magazines were banned in California). No one is taking action because you have no good solution. You frequently disregard information, perpetuate misinformation, and provide solutions that don't work because of your misinformation.

Rather than looking up existing laws and data, you would rather parrot misinformation from late night comedians and gay porn artists who have no clue what they're talking about. Firearms are restricted as it is in the US, but law breakers plan around those restrictions.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/11 16:22:16 No.1359921

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>posts a very controversial opinion on an open forum

>mutes tweets because he started a shitstorm

top kek

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/11 20:21:42 No.1359998

>>1329193
True but banning it certainly makes it a lot more difficult to acquire these items. As someone who doesn't really "support" gun control, I do believe it would have a significant effect on the illegally acquired guns. Considering that most illegally acquired guns are from legal means such as corrupt sellers or people handing them off after buying them. People also get them buy stealing them from legal sellers or other gun owners. So banning them would have an affect. As long as we allow the people who need them to have them such as hunters and maybe if the police step up their game in stopping crime in america, I would consider supporting gun control but frankly, I can't because of the number of citizens who already have guns is gonna cause too many issues.

Honestly, I've always liked art decades art but the things he's said and way he acts saddens me on how much of a sjw he seems to be.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/11 22:48:34 No.1360030

>>1359998

Hunters ain't need no guns. Hunters got Cabela, and burger king. "Eat Fresh" playa.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/13 13:18:38 No.1360736

>>1360030
I know you're fucking with me but just in case

hunters are more important to also keep certain populations low and self defense for people who live near dangerous animals.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/14 18:32:59 No.1361331

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For once a lefty flaming homosexual advocates not paying taxes. If only it was based on principle and not an assblasted little hissy fit.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/14 18:33:59 No.1361332

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>>1175453
Only a fucking leaf could make such an abysmal post.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/16 22:33:04 No.1362191

>>1360736

Not fucking with you, there is no legit reason for a gun. Animal populations are designed to balance themselves out as needed for the ecosystem. If self defence from animals is a major problem then take that land, sell it, and use it to move into a city.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/17 04:21:49 No.1362292

>>1362191

Yeah, just take those acres of land you bought to farm animals on, and just sell it, and move into the city where your job is uncertain and you have a higher chance of being shot, robbed, or generally fucked over. as opposed to just having a shot gun, living out on your many acres of land and going out and shooting a coyote or wolf every once in a while so they'll stop harassing your livestock. So simple right?

Also, do you trust your government? because i sure dont. and im not comfortable giving the government all of my ability to defend myself. unless you like the idea of letting Trump have all the guns, then i'd say there's at least one good reason to have them.

Edited at 2017/12/17 04:24:25

Wulfy

2017/12/17 19:24:02 No.1362638

>>1175453
Did you watch a lot of South Park which parodied the "violence incoming" story if Obama won in 08? Cause....no there wouldn't have been. No one is protesting the streets that Moore lost or inciting violence over it. Maybe internet yelling into the void, but nothing in the physical world.
>>1362191
Sure there is:
Hunting, killing those who threaten your family/property, defending against a tyranical government, self-sufficiency for one's own protection, independence, etc.
There are plenty of reasons to own a gun, but I appreciate the philosophical consistency in going for "ban all guns," far more honest than the "common sense" gun control position, which is usually uneducated on what guns are and ask for things that already exist.
>>1362292
A reasonable position.
Too much trust in people, as an entity or as individuals is the biggest mistake people make. Humans are not fundamentally good, and assuming they care about your or will not make any move to hurt you (especially if it betters their position) is not just naive on a site that requires you to be at least 18, it's downright stupid.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/19 07:41:00 No.1363571

>>1362292

Lol gunna defend against the government with a shotgun... good luck Rambo.

Uncompliant citizens like you are what make it so hard for the government to make laws that help all of us.

If the government wanted you dead, I'm pretty sure they would have killed you by now. Getting shot in the city... you only verified my point. You're probably just another brainwashed hick on drugs, and it's time to ban ALL guns.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/19 12:22:17 No.1363690

>>1363571

You're an idiot. the point is for the country to have a protection against a tyrannical govt. not one man vs the country, but giving the country a chance should tyranny rise. Your strawmanning is worse than a child's. But good attempt. I'd hazard a guess that German citizens wished they had some guns of their own before the Nazi party came to power, or chinese citizens before Mao, Russians before... literally any leader they've had, Italians before mussolini, and north korea before the jong-uns.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/20 19:04:32 No.1364274

>>1363690

You're an idiot, the government IS part of the country. You act like weapons have ever been a good idea, they always cause more harm then they heal. When you grow out of your call of duty/pacifier/bedwetting phase of life maybe you'll understand that not only are guns not toys, but they aren't tools either.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/21 13:39:15 No.1364578

>>1364274
Marksmanship is an art and hunting is a sport. Guns are a marvelous mixture of toy, tool, and weapon.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/21 20:25:06 No.1364706

>>1363690
I believe there are reasons to defend guns but I still think the whole tyrannical thing is stupid.
>>1364274
Dude, as I said, there are people who live near dangerous animals. There are people who live in dangerous neighborhoods. We humans need to hunt food sometimes and we through the ecosystem out of wack meaning that there can sometimes be too many predators or prey based on what we hunt and if a god damn bear attacks my family, I want to have a way to blow its god damn brains out and I don't think anyone should have to move into the city just to appease your liberal ass.

Basically, taking away guns does not fix these issues.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 00:03:01 No.1365162

>>1364706

If a bear comes... are ya ready for this? Lock the door. SSsimple. Oh and guns made the city dangerous in the first place. I wonder if you'll ever realize killing innocent animals mercilessly is a sociopathic trait, and justifying it as sport is psychotic.

Edited at 2017/12/23 00:04:35

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 00:57:14 No.1365171

>>1365162

You're a vegan, aren't you?

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 08:34:03 No.1365231

>>1365162
Animals aren't any more innocent than the wind. They can be refreshing or they can be a natural force that destroys lives. Anthropomorphizing animals is a fantasy this website supports, but attempting to employ the fantasy of endowing animals with human characteristics in the real world actually is evidence of psychological dysfunction.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 15:15:14 No.1365323

>>1365171

Why does that matter?

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 15:22:53 No.1365327

>>1365231

Fuck 'em then eat 'em eh? You're so savage. Listen here Billy bob, animals feel pain too. They also feel pleasure and have sexual needs, but I can tell you that they all hate dying. Clearly you're raised from the south where the edjumacashun is a little slow, but just because you elected an idiot, doesn't mean you should act like one.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/23 18:20:27 No.1365372

>>1365327
Why have education when you can ad hom?

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/24 02:32:50 No.1365498

>>1365327

I love how pitiful your strawman is. You cant even pull anything relevant into it now. i guess you could say you're... grasping for straws.

Anywho, go take your views to PETA and then weep when you find out that they kill more animals than most animal shelters do.

I dont care about the cow that gets slaughtered for meat, and i dont care about the bear that gets killed because it threatened somebody's life. You say it's sociopathic to kill innocent animals? i say it's sociopathic to prioritize an animal's life over a human's you twisted fuck.

Furrynomous France

2017/12/31 10:05:24 No.1368900

>>1363690
None of your guns can save from drones and missile strikes. If you want to defend against tyrrany, you'll have to do it with something other than guns, cowboy. I'm sure you have enough of a mind to come up with better methods.

Furrynomous United States

2017/12/31 10:43:31 No.1368906

>>1368900

This guy gets it.

Furrynomous United States

2018/01/10 14:01:18 No.1374134

I wanna go back to specifically dunking on ArtDecade here because he's shit but you know who he reminds me of? Apis
They both act like progressives with moral uprightness on their Twitter, while actively drawing material that very much is incongruent with the political affiliation they've decided to cling to the underbelly of to help sanitize their image
AD over here still openly draws incest, which is very much hated as a kink by actual leftists because the number of consensual incestuous relationships that actually exist out there can be counted on your fingers and the rest are all power imbalanced
Apis meanwhile continues to draw cub (which of course needs no explanation as to why people are against it) but he's also a coward who knows how much damage it can do to his reputation so he habitually nukes his accounts and only takes commissions anonymously
And they're both actively making money off of this
There certainly is no shortage of socialist furries out there, believe you me, so it baffles me why people who enjoy that kind of content pick ones that are quite easily proven to be hypocrites

Reindeer Games France

2018/01/11 07:30:39 No.1374465

>>1374134
His artwork is fantasy. Quick example: I like loli, shota and cubs, but i strongly believe acually fucking children is a bad thing.

Furrynomous Australia

2018/03/04 02:36:29 No.1400816

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gore

Edited at 2018/03/05 07:16:30

Furrynomous United States

2018/03/04 09:36:01 No.1400898

>>1374465
Completely agree.

More often than not, people's interests in art are divorced from their political or personal opinions. Ridiculous example (but one that is the opposite of Artdecade's stances, since this all goes both ways) take Jontron, who's artistic persona is a complete 180 of his political leanings and personal opinions.

People tend to feel offended when artists don't share their opinions or ideology, almost like they are being betrayed somehow. But over time you learn to basically separate the art from the artist. Clashes of content and the artist's actual belief is not uncommon in the slightest. It then devolves down to the whole fantasy vs reality debate.

Edited at 2018/03/04 09:37:06

Furrynomous Mexico

2018/03/08 23:46:02 No.1403946

>>1400898
been through that, honestly, I used to like certain artists but their political views were different from mine I almost felt betrayed but with the time I learn I was being ridiculous. Still enjoy their content and stop being bothered by their views, is their views, whatever makes them happy and continue producing more content is fine by me

Furrynomous United States

2018/04/20 13:48:45 No.1423841

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My favorite recent artdecade moment was when he admitted through his character Willy that he's now pansexual and wants to be pegged by huge women. He's consciously trying to court the bi and straight crowd after spending years building up a gay audience.

This is as hilarious and sad as antidev drawing horrific women out of nowhere.

RIP gay furries.

Furrynomous United States

2018/04/20 14:55:49 No.1423874

>>1374134

Ey yo Apis is a cool dude though.

Furrynomous Poland

2018/04/20 20:24:49 No.1423996

>>1400898
>>1403946
It's not just their opinions. It's more about the fact they hate their fans for having different opinions. I once saw a guy reply to a fan's tweet with "You are a horrible person, I don't want you to enjoy our product". It's hard not to be bothered by something like that.

Furrynomous United States

2018/04/21 00:42:17 No.1424061

>>1423841
I think it's probably less about trying to widen his audience and more about scoring extra brownie points. Being gay has become passe, being pan makes you a hero who embraces gender diversity.

Furrynomous United States

2018/04/21 08:54:06 No.1424162

>>1423996
Such events need to be looked at by a case by case basis. Honestly if an artist calls out someone they've never had contact with in such a way it's bad on both a professional and personal level.

That said, most times I've personally witnessed something with what you've described has been incidents where a fan antagonized the artist in the first place, while either attempting to get that reaction, or being terribly surprised when the artist does not respond nicely to someone mucking up their submissions with this stuff. Not saying what you describe doesn't happen, just that both sides need to be looked at to gauge those reactions.

Furrynomous 2018/05/21 18:32:00 No.1439265

Yikes how did I get to this nightmarish nationalist thread from post election 2016, where's the exit please..

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/22 02:59:32 No.1439425

99% of the people that claim to be pan are really just attention seekers. They'll go back to being a flaming homosexual when pansexuality isn't trending.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/22 08:04:51 No.1439472

>>1439425
Prove it.

Furrynomous 2018/05/22 13:38:01 No.1439518

>>1439425

There are people who clarify their pan statuses. One artist I follow, Oxnards/Nishi, describes himself as "gay-pan" meaning he is mostly attracted to other men but is attracted to other genders too.

I do sometimes notice that some furry artists describe themselves as "bi" but I hardly ever see women on their sexual art pages.

Edited at 2018/05/22 13:51:32

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/23 02:17:44 No.1439929

>>1439518

It's because they are not attracted to women.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/23 07:28:35 No.1440013

>>1439929
Or maybe they're just attracted to men a lot more.

Furrynomous Germany

2018/05/23 14:14:24 No.1440260

>>1439518
>"gay-pan"
>mostly attracted to other men but is attracted to other genders too.
So he's bi, preferring males.

Meaning he's bi.

Also
>other genders
You mean female?

Furrynomous France

2018/05/23 18:34:42 No.1440388

>>1440260
Non-binary people exist.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/23 19:49:13 No.1440408

>>1440388

Show me non-binary genitalia that arent the product of surgery, mutilation, or a genetic mutation.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/24 04:57:08 No.1440572

>>1440408
I wasn't talking about genitalia. And it doesn't matter how those genitals came to be.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/24 06:05:11 No.1440597

>>1440572

But in the end it does matter what genitalia you have. That gay-pan man isnt going to care if a girl is binary, he'll know she's a girl and his preference toward men will take over. Your genitals do matter. there's only two fucking genders, like there has always been. Anything outside of it has just been pulled out of thin air by people that have been told that their mental illnesses are identities.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/24 06:09:43 No.1440599

>>1440597
Lots of things used to be mental illness and now aren't. People more knowledgeable than you have decided that and you're just gonna have to live with it.

Furrynomous 2018/05/24 08:43:37 No.1440634

>>1440260

There are bisexual people who just like cisgender men and women, but Oxnard/Nishi also likes transgendered and intersex people. That's what makes someone pansexual.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/24 12:42:46 No.1440701

>>1440599

Consensus doesnt always mean fact. it was the consensus a few hundred years ago that the world was flat, but it wasnt the truth. Just because a consensus says that permitting this behavior is healthy doesnt make it true. I refuse to believe condoning this culture of "be what you feel like in the moment" is good for anybody.

>>1440634

No it means they have low standards.

Furrynomous Belgium

2018/05/24 21:54:58 No.1440890

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>>1440701
I know this has little to do with the subject at hand, but I don't think you understand how scientific research works in this day and age. Let me just tell you that comparing our scientific method with medieval and early modern knowledge is utterly absurd and doesn't serve your argument.

And there was no "consensus" for a flat earth "a few hundred years ago". The ancient Greeks knew the earth was round, and so did medieval Europeans.

Edited at 2018/05/24 22:03:14

Furrynomous Canada

2018/05/25 00:18:29 No.1440930

>>1440388
There is male and female brains. This is why there trans people. There been studies on brain of trans people and they match the brain of the gender they associate with. There is a hard line for gender. Male and female. However, there is gender expressions, which not fully connected with gender, and it is not set in concrete. For example, pink was a male color but in recent time, it a female color. However, a boy may like pink, but it doesn't make him female.

Also, people who have XXY, XXX, and XYY will still fall into male and female. Though, there a lot of defect that they will have to deal with. (Like not having the ability to have kids, and ect.)

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/25 01:51:05 No.1440975

>>1440890

Apparently you never heard of the dark ages.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/25 06:32:32 No.1441094

>>1440701
And do you actually believe this consensus will change, control-freak?

Furrynomous Belgium

2018/05/25 06:35:01 No.1441095

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>>1440975
Here we go again!

There is no such thing as the "Dark Ages". It is an outdated historiographical concept inherited from the writings of the Renaissance humanists and perpetuated throughout the Enlightenment. The humanists idealised the ancient word and coined the term "Medium Aevum" (the "Middle Ages") to distinguish themselves from the intermediate period separating the classical Golden Age from its perceived Rebirth. Modern scholars do not take this concept seriously. This terminology is also, somehow, mostly specific to English literature.

Here is interesting fact for you. The Orb, or Globus cruciger (the "Cross-bearing globe") was used as a symbol of power by monarchs since Late antiquity and throughout the Middle Ages. It represents God's dominion over the earth and indicates that the one who holds it received his powers directly from God. It represents the earth... and it is round.

Edited at 2018/05/25 07:27:21

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2018/05/25 08:35:29 No.1441115

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>>1440975

American fool! Here is a globe from the medieval period. Also, there never were dark ages. This is what happens when people get their education from television and pop culture...

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/25 12:32:35 No.1441176

>>1441115
>>1441095

So nobody thought the earth was flat, and the idea that people thought this was just born out of... what? pop culture? really? you're fucking idiots.

Either way the point still stands. Consensus does not equal fact.

Edited at 2018/05/25 12:40:14

Furrynomous France

2018/05/25 12:45:29 No.1441195

>>1441176
What DOES equal fact?

Furrynomous Belgium

2018/05/25 12:59:29 No.1441204

>>1441176
Not exactly. The flat Earth myth mainly originated in Age of Enlightenment as a form of criticism against the Catholic church. During the 18th century, Religion, and the Church in particular, were accused of being the cause of the Dark Ages described by the humanists. By the 19th century, the idea that medieval society as a whole believed in a flat Earth had made its way into popular culture.

>>1440701
The key word in the original post is "consensus". Sure, some people thought the Earth was flat. Some still do today. Educated people, however, knew the Earth was round and the idea that this knowledge was ever lost is a complete misconception. Again, the keyword is "consensus".

Furrynomous Switzerland

2018/05/25 15:47:32 No.1441298

Good day, Gentlemen!

I am a historian and may be able to help. The Belgian Gentleman is correct, humanists spread lies and rumors to damage the Roman Catholic Church and Christianity in general. The famous German humanist Wilhelm von Humboldt flat out stated: "We may not be able to destroy the Church through facts and reason, but we can destroy it through the use of mockery, rumors and falsehoods." (1. and 2.) The British Gentlemen is also right, the idea that the Earth is supposedly flat is largerly a pop cultural view of history. It is indeed hard to find persons who believed that the world was flat. Christian theologians, almost without exception, likewise accepted the fact that the earth is a sphere. The only two Christian writers known to have advocated a flat earth were a 4th-century heretic, Lactantius, and an obscure 6th-century Egyptian Monk, Cosmas Indicopleustes. Later, these two obscure and uninfluential writers were used as the prime evidence to prove that the flat-earth view was accepted by the Church as a whole - or at least by large parts of it. (3. and 4.)

(1.) http://bibliothek.bbaw.de/bibliothek-digital/digitalequellen/schriften/anzeige?band=07-abh/1825&seite:int=00000402
(2.) http://www.astromeyer.de/Seiten/artikel/germanen.htm
(3.) https://books.google.ch/books?id=LeuvyUJa-scC&printsec=frontcover&dq=humanismus&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiui_T64KHbAhVLYVAKHW0nDBQQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=humanismus&f=false4.) https://fiph.de/veroeffentlichungen/journale/cover-downloads/fiph-journal-fruehjahr-2016.pdf?m=1484146728&

Edited at 2018/05/25 15:58:42

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2018/05/25 15:52:45 No.1441303

>>1441298

You Sir, are amazing! You even provided academic sources for your claims! Thanks a lot!

>>1441195

You bring up a good point! I somehow doubt that our American friend will answer this.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/25 16:02:12 No.1441305

>>1441298
The fact that the Catholic Church is basically a pedophile ring has done more damage to it than any lies supposedly spread en mass by humanists.

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2018/05/25 16:17:03 No.1441311

>>1441305

I agree. I am by no means a Church apologist, but the mass spreading of anti-Christian propaganda against the Church is very well documented (as are the bloodbaths of the Jacobians). The man the Swiss man has quoted was the leader of the German humanists, no low ranking individual by any means.

Edited at 2018/05/25 16:19:48

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/25 16:21:30 No.1441314

>>1441195

Fact is something that can be proven through empirical evidence. Quite frankly, there's only two genders, and two gender identities. When the identity doesn't match, the rate at which mental disorders pop up becomes higher, the suicide rates rise as well. Especially detrimental to transgender/transexuals if they do hrt and have gender reassignment surgery, their suicide rates skyrocket.

Outside of identity and into sexual preference we should map it out to only 3 options. Gay, straight and bi. Quite literally anything else is superfluous. If you need to make up a sexual preference because somebody is trans male you invalidate them by not just calling them a male and nit calling yourself just gay/bi. The moment you make more shit like gay-pan the more people you invalidate and the further the identity argument crumbles.

When you blur the lines, eventually it is just chaos, and chaos only leads to harm.

>>1441303

Get off the German's dick after you pull your head out of your ass.

Furrynomous Germany

2018/05/25 16:22:35 No.1441316

>>1441094
>>1441095
>>1441204
Why is anybody talking about the dark ages when the argument put forth was "consensus doesn't equal fact"?
Which it doesn't, but that's beside the point since gender dysphoria IS a recognized mental illness.

Regarding people claiming to be transgender without gender dysphoria: If you believe that transgenders without dysphoria are in fact their self-proclaimed gender, you have to be consistent and apply the same standard to any RP'er online pretending to be their fursona. Since they don't have gender dysphoria, it is by definition no discomfort to them to be in the body they have gotten from birth. They are literally just RP'ing.

>>1440388
>Non-binary people
Don't exist. Ask them - any of them - as to why they see themselves as non-binary. I've seen enough youtube videos of "non-binary" people explaining their reasoning for seeing themselves as such, and they will not be able to answer you in a way that doesn't equate personality traits or fashion choices with genders, i.e. establishing gender roles. Their entire reasoning relies on there being a gender binary for them to "not fit in", meaning that in the end, self-proclaimed non-binary people are the ones perpetuating gender roles and the gender binary the most.

And since I assume most of the people championing non-binary people agree that gender roles are to be dismantled, and that gender is not an indicator for personality traits, then it follows that having such traits that clash with pre-established gender roles is not an indicator for not being part of either of the genders as well (i.e. being non-binary). Their reasoning is made meaningless by their own ideology, meaning they can't explain what being non-binary means, at all.

And poof goes the non-binary.

Furrynomous Germany

2018/05/25 16:24:28 No.1441317

You are all assholes! Nobody who defends the Roman Catholic Church should be allowed to live freely! Fuck you all!

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2018/05/25 16:30:50 No.1441323

>>1441317

Fuck yourself! Nobody is defending the catholic church. There is a difference between your fucking feelings and historical facts, fucking moron!

Nice by the way, that you want to take away the freedom of other people, you fascist asshole!

I apologize for the cursing to the other people on this thread, but jerks like this guy simply piss me off to no end. They are high-handed, insufferable morons. Damn, I got really heated up.

Edited at 2018/05/25 16:35:23

Furrynomous Belgium

2018/05/25 16:38:25 No.1441327

>>1441317
I'm not defending the Catholic church. I'm an anticlericalist atheist. I generally dislike all religions.

>>1441316
The Dark Ages and flat Earth were brought up because of this comment...
>>1440701
... because I'm an historian and I don't like to see the Middle Ages being misrepresented and people spreading misconceptions about my field of study.

Furrynomous Switzerland

2018/05/25 16:41:15 No.1441330

>>1441327

Good to see you again! It is me, the other historian!

>>1441323

Sir, please relax. These are only online discussions. Please spare your nerves.

Edited at 2018/05/25 16:43:46

Furrynomous United Kingdom

2018/05/25 16:46:18 No.1441333

>>1441330

>Sir, please relax. These are only online discussions. Please spare your nerves.

You are right. Your words are most wise. I really got invested to much. I really should not engage in such stuff.

Furrynomous Belgium

2018/05/25 16:55:14 No.1441335

>>1441330
Hello to you too ! It's nice to read from you again :)

Furrynomous Switzerland

2018/05/25 17:14:53 No.1441361

>>1441335

I hope you are fine. It is good to have you around!

Furrynomous Mexico

2018/05/27 11:56:04 No.1442352

>>1423841
so willy spent years sucking dicks and getting fucked so much he now grows bored out of being gay and seeks women, too? wouldn't that make being born gay false?
I know being pansexual is now a trend which is basically bisexual but with a new name just to sound hip and cool but adding more sexual orientations and such will become too confusing and also conflicting whenever you want to date.

Furrynomous France

2018/05/27 12:12:34 No.1442361

>>1442352
You know people are not always aware of what they're attracted to at all stages of their lives, right?

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/27 23:14:13 No.1442639

>>1442361

Because sexual preferences are a result of environmental influence. Not some magic strand of dna that forces you to like something.

Furrynomous Canada

2018/05/28 07:02:35 No.1442773

>>1442639
You're right, it isn't magic nor DNA. It's science and brain chemistry.

Dumb fuck.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/28 15:34:10 No.1443067

>>1442773

Ah yes, the Canadian that can't argue without throwing insults like a child. I'm sure brain chemistry determines how much dick you enjoy sucking, what fetishes youre into etc. Because DNA right? Because some gene that has no actual evidence toward it's existence decides from birth that you're born to be furry even though fetish are for it hardly existed not too long ago.

This whole born this way thing is laughable and has always just been an excuse to not have any responsibility. The fact that people change their sexuality blows it out of the water every time.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/29 13:29:22 No.1443487

>>1443067

The issue is both of what you're saying has basis, as a person's sexuality is not the result of just one of these factors, but many aspects that come together to form a personality. To say that a person's sexuality is only the result of their environment is way too reductionist. It can have a role, but people are so varied and different that it is impossible to isolate it to one cause.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/29 14:02:15 No.1443499

All I know is that my first erection was to the teenage mutant ninja turtles when I was like... really young... And here I am today... thirty some odd years of of unwavering dedication to 2-dphilia with a emphasis on anthropomorphic animals, and just as uninterested in anything 3-d as when I was a kid.

With a background like that, 'born that way' just makes a shitton of sense to and for me.

Furrynomous 2018/05/29 15:52:59 No.1443552

>>1443499

I'm in a similar boat... it's odd because I have romantic affections for women, but I have a massive tighty-whitie fetish and like looking at pics of cartoon character anthro males, (not real life men and not human men). In the end I feel like I can't really date.

It does make one wonder how one will get a relationship/start a family. I know some people don't like these things, but in some fields like politics you want to have a family.

I have no plans on being an active politician, but oddly enough I do feel like I want a family someday :(

Edited at 2018/05/29 16:11:42

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/29 16:48:51 No.1443576

>>1443499

Lets set up a couple things. It isnt uncommon for a young child to get an erection, more common than not from needing to urinate. It is also common for children and adults alike to get their body into a certain schedule of urination and bowel movements. That said,

I find it far more likely that your early childhood schedule had you needing to piss right around when TMNT came on, and because you loved the show you held it in, causing an erection in your young self. The daily routine of this started making connections in your brain of "i watch this, i feel good in a weird way." That kind of conditioning actually has science behind it. i can without a doubt guarantee you that there isnt some genome that forced you to like a specific anthropomorphic reptile show from ages past.

>>1443552

I wouldnt give up on dating so easily. You'd be surprised at what a woman will be willing to do to please you. Some would be very happy to please your kink for the simple fact that they are the one participating in it. Dont give up so easily.

Edited at 2018/05/29 16:50:58

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/31 03:51:09 No.1444459

>>1443576
That makes sense. But it's also a just-so story constructed out of hindsight bias. 'Plausible explanations' like that are from whence came the pseudoscience of psychoanalytics.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/31 06:59:44 No.1444495

>>1444459

Even so, it has more bearing in scientific reality than the "tmnt sexual attraction gene"

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/31 12:30:35 No.1444605

>>1444495
Kinda a strawman there... If you'll note, the guy attacking that argument is the first one to mention genomes and genes...

Just think about it. Even if everything said there were true, why the inclination towards the anthropomorphic turtles rather than April or other recurring human characters? Also, what about all of the other involuntary reactions during piss breaks throughout childhood. TMNT was only a once a week thing. If that sort of association and conditioning were so strong, all of the other involuntary boners one popped throughout life should have had an impact, and I would probably get hard whenever I heard someone speaking Spanish given the distressing number of involuntary boners I popped in that class because puberty. Altogether, that 'scientific sounding reasoning' is not really scientific at all. It's just rationalizing the reality after the fact.

Furrynomous United States

2018/05/31 17:59:18 No.1444801

>>1444605

Show me the gene, and we'll talk.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/01 17:57:24 No.1445202

>>1444801
>the guy attacking that argument is the first one to mention genomes and genes

Again... genetics were never a part of that argument. You're 'winning' a point that was neither raised nor contested to begin with and completely evading the central argument...

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/01 20:49:05 No.1445262

>>1445202

Unless there's something else that somehow just determines things about you so concretely at birth, genetics was the central argument. I dont know why you're so adamant at deflecting the actual argument onto... nothing, lacking an actual counter argument.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/01 23:08:39 No.1445296

>>1445262
"Born that way" means "born that way." It does not mean 'it is in your genes.'

There is more to an infant than their DNA, and simplifying one to its 23 chromosomes is just plain bad logic (fallacy of reduction to be precise).

Where is it if it's not in the genes? The argument is that it's built up in pieces within the mess of the whole goddamn infant; DNA and brain inclusive.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/02 08:10:46 No.1445553

>>1445296

bullshit no one is born gay, otherwise you'd see boys kissing when driving by playgrounds. It isn't until puberty that boys choose to be gay.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/02 18:28:34 No.1445759

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>>1445553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boy_tLWeqA

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/04 19:40:26 No.1446637

>>1445296

I dont think you understand how dna, biology, and anatomy work.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/04 21:00:27 No.1446718

>>1446637
Perhaps thinking is not your strong suit.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/05 02:10:34 No.1446866

>>1446718

I'm sure believing that cell splitting and dna replication is just some chaotic soup that pops up into a human being born to love anthropomorphized turtles is a coveted skill.

Furrynomous Canada

2018/06/05 13:17:49 No.1447049

>>1445296
Seriously?

This is a telling sign that the american (your flag says yank) education system is collapsing, and producing more morons than any first world country really should.

DNA is the blueprint to everything in the body, brain included. The Brain is where you think, and feel, and it's governed by the structure.

This is your NATURE.

Yes you can make the argument that nature isn't everything, there is also NURTURE. The environment a person is raised in. But neither of these are absolutes. If your environment determined who you are to the absolute, then you wouldn't have had gay people in Victorian Era England, the single most prudish, and homophobic place and time ever that I can think of. Buuuut, there were gays in that time and place.

Your genes layout the road that your body wishes to follow throughout your life. How you were raised, your environment, etc. just determines how on or off that road you move. Some people could take genetic tests and identify how close to the road they are, but it is ultimately up to them if they want to walk on or off that road.

The road is predisposition. Somethings on that road will make you happy, like accepting who, or what you are, and what you love. Other things will make you sad, like a predisposition to addiction or disease. You don't always have to follow the road, but it's there, and denying it's existence is like saying the Earth is flat, and Oxygen is a conspiracy.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/05 16:09:06 No.1447105

>>1446866
And I find your skill at moving from straw man to straw man while refusing to ever directly address the opposing argument you're trying to refute to be admirable myself.

>>1447049
...
...
...
You are being awfully truculent in arguing a long list of points that I completely agree with and are not contradicted by any of the statements that I have made. You seem to have taken my argument and expanded it in your head beyond the bounds of what was explicitly stated. I request that you go back and read what was actually written, and then come back and apologize when you realize our absence of disagreement.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/06 14:28:10 No.1447631

>>1447105
It's hard not to strawman when you didn't even articulate an argument. You just said there's more ambiguous stuff that predicates being born sexually attracted to something fictional. At no time did you suggest that nurture has an effect on behavior. You just said that there's "more to an infant than DNA"

You're so confoundingly stupid that you can't address your own argument. If nurture affects behavior you have to have been born first to experience the nurturing. Therefore not "born this way" but go ahead and delude yourself in your contradictory non-argument, spout big superfluous words to make yourself feel better about your ignorance and stupidity.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/06 16:59:25 No.1447723

>>1447631
>It's hard not to strawman
No. It isn't.

>You just said there's more ambiguous stuff that predicates being born sexually attracted to something fictional
Try to support this summary you made of what was written with direct quotes from what actually was written. You will find that you can't. Using direct quotation is a good way of ensuring that you do not misunderstand what was written and maybe accidentally create yet another straw man argument.

>at no time did you suggest that nurture has an effect on behavior
The fact that a person has not openly stated a pro-something opinion is not grounds to assume that they are anti-something.

>You're so confoundingly stupid that you can't address your own argument
Then why are you arguing if there was no argument there to begin with?

>If nurture affects behavior you have to have been born first to experience the nurturing
Patently false. If I were you, I would consider googling that one. It could be important.

Furrynomous United States

2018/06/07 02:05:29 No.1447962

Thank the Lord I never gave any money to this antifa scum. Just another stormtrooper for the establishment oligarchs.

Furrynomous Canada

2018/06/07 12:58:12 No.1448084

>>1447962
AD might be an idiot, but your statement showed that you are just as much an idiot as he is, just on the other side of the coin. You don't realize that Trump is an oligarch, and filled his cabinet with oligarchs. Until they milked his stupidity for tax cuts at your expense and bailed on him.

Furrynomous United States

2018/11/28 19:52:53 No.1522441

>>1447962
>establishment oligarchs
>antifa
lel

Furrynomous United States

2018/11/29 02:25:52 No.1522534

>>1448084
Such is the American way, and Trump is an American hero.

Furrynomous United States

2021/09/11 20:40:23 No.2007952

wow, i came across this thread looking for a mask pdf and it's really remarkable how upset so many people are at a leftist with any sort of power and influence. two years of jealousy, pettiness, and self-radicalization.

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