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No harm no fowl? Anonymous 2016/11/10 00:34:39 No.1175112   
Any idea why the comic kinda poofed from u18? Had been being updated pretty fast by a contributor or two
Edited at 2016/11/10 00:41:23
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 00:38:39 No.1175114
Poof from where? It's still on FurAffinity, and still being updated fairly regularly.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20633249/
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:02:43 No.1175138
>>1175114
Yeah but all the paid pages were here too. If someone could reupload them that could be great, along with new ones if there are any. I tried to see if my phone had them in a cache but I couldn't find any.
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:22:48 No.1175154
>>1175138
HOLY FUCK SCRATCH THAT I JUST FOUND ALL OF THE IMAGES IN A CACHE, WILL UPLOAD ASAP
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:31:43 No.1175157
File: 02_81_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (989.61kb, 936x1200, 02_81_u18chan.jpg)
Here's the stuff from the cache! (More will come in a second, upload limit) 2-6
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:31:44 No.1175158
File: 03_120_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.01mb, 936x1200, 03_120_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175157
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:31:45 No.1175159
File: 1470978380.sefeiren_nhnf_pg004f_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (909.66kb, 936x1200, 1470978380.sefeiren_nhnf_pg004f_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175157
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:31:47 No.1175160
File: 1629073_Sefeiren_nhnf_pg005f_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (857.1kb, 936x1200, 1629073_Sefeiren_nhnf_pg005f_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175157
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:31:48 No.1175161
File: NHNF_Pg006_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1004.4kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg006_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175157
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:34:19 No.1175163
File: NHNF_Pg007_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.16mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg007_u18chan.jpg)
Pages 7-11
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:34:20 No.1175164
File: NHNF_Pg008_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.19mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg008_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175163
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:34:21 No.1175165
File: NHNF_Pg009_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.19mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg009_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175163
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:34:23 No.1175166
File: NHNF_Pg010_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.18mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg010_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175163
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:34:24 No.1175167
File: NHNF_Pg011_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.15mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg011_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175163
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:36:16 No.1175168
File: NHNF_Pg012_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (969.99kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg012_u18chan.jpg)
12-16
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:36:17 No.1175169
File: 16386987088314244658_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (195.78kb, 936x1200, 16386987088314244658_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175168
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:36:18 No.1175170
File: 13708787824979202953_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (190.41kb, 936x1200, 13708787824979202953_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175168
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:36:19 No.1175171
File: 16099714717298728982_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (200.6kb, 936x1200, 16099714717298728982_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175168
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:36:21 No.1175172
File: 12644431853665305757_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (230.12kb, 936x1200, 12644431853665305757_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175168
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:40:09 No.1175175
File: 1521161102618529431_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (207.38kb, 936x1200, 1521161102618529431_u18chan.jpg)
17-21
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:40:10 No.1175176
File: 10187418603083946467_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (205.71kb, 936x1200, 10187418603083946467_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175175
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:40:11 No.1175177
File: 3762679066028560796_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (194.52kb, 936x1200, 3762679066028560796_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175175
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:40:12 No.1175178
File: 5325251348939736978_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (201.05kb, 936x1200, 5325251348939736978_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175175
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:40:14 No.1175179
File: 11734580156063107334_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (161.07kb, 936x1200, 11734580156063107334_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175175
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:43:29 No.1175181
File: NHNF_Pg022_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.03mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg022_u18chan.jpg)
And 22-24. If someone who's a patreon of Sef could upload pages as they come in, that'd be awesome
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:43:30 No.1175182
File: NHNF_Pg023_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (732.01kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg023_u18chan.jpg)
>>1175181
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Anonymous 2016/11/10 02:43:32 No.1175183
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>>1175181
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LordProtector 2016/11/11 04:58:13 No.1175621
File: NHNF_Pg025_u18chan.jpg - (983.61kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg025.jpg)
Next Page
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 03:00:09 No.1175920
>>1175621

I'm a tad bit comfused. Is devon jacking off, or am I slow
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 03:11:12 No.1175922
>>1175920
He's asleep
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 07:33:29 No.1175982
>>1175920
if you go back and pay attention to the previous pages you can see she has a huge thing for Devon's mouth and him eating her out so chances are shes gonna get really worked up over a drooling sleeping maw
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 10:09:19 No.1176015
File: Homer-Passes-Out-Dead_u18chan.png - (323.94kb, 690x463, Homer-Passes-Out-Dead.png)
>>1175920
Actually, the first thing that came to my mind is this...
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 10:43:09 No.1176017
Today, I learned the Expand All doesnt work with multi-image posts.
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 16:26:38 No.1176110
>>1176017
it does actually. It's the window that doesn't scale though. If you try with a smartphone, you'll notice that, after the expand all, if you pinch and look at the pictures they will be in full res.
Maybe this hint could be useful to better reprogram the site, dear mods?
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Anonymous 2016/11/12 22:06:39 No.1176215
Spoiler !
Cum stains on his clothes
Ornithology book on his legs/dick
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Anonymous 2016/11/13 00:59:13 No.1176248
>>1176110
If anyone was to redevelop the site, I'd like them to make U18chan stop using javascript. JS is a pain in the ass, I wish I could keep it disabled at all times.
I know C and HTML: if only I could help.
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Anonymous 2016/11/13 02:58:54 No.1176270
>>1175922

I meant did he just jack off, I could tell he was asleep lmao
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Anonymous 2016/11/13 03:00:57 No.1176271
>>1176215

How do you know
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Anonymous 2016/11/18 19:38:43 No.1179118
Bump, page 26 is out
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LordProtector 2016/11/19 19:15:00 No.1179520
File: NHNF_Pg026_u18chan.jpg - (959.26kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg026.jpg)
I think this comic is getting interesting ^.^
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Anonymous 2016/11/20 04:05:20 No.1179703
>>1179520

Same. Really like the character personalities.
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Anonymous 2016/11/20 10:53:25 No.1179778
>>1179520
Thats so cute :)
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Anonymous 2016/11/21 04:30:48 No.1180031
Can't wait to see the rest. This is a great comic.
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Anonymous 2016/11/21 09:14:06 No.1180084
Holly fuck, the suspense is killing me.

I've been checking in on this comic like four times a week >_>
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Anonymous 2016/11/25 00:23:02 No.1181869
new page is out please post it xD
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Anonymous 2016/11/25 00:30:31 No.1181871
Two pages, actually. It's a double update today. :D
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Anonymous 2016/11/25 00:37:09 No.1181872
yay so whoever got the pages be a kind boy and post it xD
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LordProtector 2016/11/25 05:19:00 No.1181948
File: NHNF_Pg027_u18chan.jpg - (1.04mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg027.jpg)
>>1181872
LordProtector is here to save you all XD
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LordProtector 2016/11/25 05:19:01 No.1181949
File: NHNF_Pg028_u18chan.jpg - (966.43kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg028.jpg)
>>1181948
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LordProtector 2016/11/25 05:19:03 No.1181950
File: Addi_Turkey_u18chan.jpg - (4.41mb, 2099x2751, Addi_Turkey.jpg)
>>1181948
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Anonymous 2016/11/25 05:27:31 No.1181952
Yes, thank you!
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Anonymous 2016/11/26 04:05:51 No.1182292
Awesome thanks!
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Anonymous 2016/11/26 09:12:21 No.1182340
I am literally dying (literally) waiting for this comic to come out. I will be dead by the time it finishes.
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Anonymous 2016/11/27 05:01:58 No.1182688
>>1182340
Goodnight sweet prince.
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Anonymous 2016/11/27 09:52:33 No.1182752
Sweet jesus. The sexual tension in this comic is so strong it might ruin my real world relationship.
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Leo Howler 2016/11/28 14:39:25 No.1183188
>>1182340
Jesus, it's only been a couple of weeks since this thread started. Some of us wait years for comics to finish!

>>1182752
...Wat.
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Anonymous 2016/11/29 02:58:48 No.1183609
Years? Somebody's slackin.
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Anonymous 2016/12/01 23:42:02 No.1184874
New page has been posted on Patreon.
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Keep Calm and Wait for the Next Page LordProtector 2016/12/02 18:01:22 No.1185168
File: NHNF_Pg029_u18chan.jpg - (1011.22kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg029.jpg)
I will keep posting for you guys just be patient a little cos I can't do it in an instant... you know time zones and IRL stuffs. Expect 1-2 day(s) delay...
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Anonymous 2016/12/02 19:37:36 No.1185186
Okay, understood. Thanks for posting.
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Anonymous 2016/12/03 16:41:03 No.1185520
>>1185168
+1 for the meme title. Got me to laugh.
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Anonymous 2016/12/04 01:43:23 No.1185679
File: giphy_7_u18chan.gif - (333.07kb, 360x240, giphy.gif)
FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE FIRST MOVE
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Anonymous 2016/12/06 18:57:20 No.1187147
FUCK
THAT
BURB
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Kajex Surnahm 2016/12/08 22:46:05 No.1188441
o_o Y'got her by the thighs. Spread 'em and get in there.
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Next Page LordProtector 2016/12/09 04:59:36 No.1188545
File: NHNF_Pg030_u18chan.jpg - (916kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg030.jpg)
We are getting closer... slowly... damn slowly

Edited at 2016/12/09 05:00:00
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Anonymous 2016/12/09 05:45:43 No.1188559
You know, gotta get that profit for as long as possible :P
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Anonymous 2016/12/09 15:47:13 No.1188659
File: TAd6T_u18chan.gif - (589.63kb, 150x143, TAd6T.gif)
Fucking come on already!
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Anonymous 2016/12/09 21:32:13 No.1188736
DO IT FUCK THE BIRD NOW
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Anonymous 2016/12/10 17:57:33 No.1189149
STUFF THAT CHRISTMAS GOOSE
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Anonymous 2016/12/10 21:59:43 No.1189231
STUFF THAT TURKEY!
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Anonymous 2016/12/11 12:31:02 No.1189413
>>1188559
You talking about how long it is with no sex?
That's precisely why I like this artist. I'm no fan of feral birds but I still like the story because the build up is good. Makes you actually give a shit about the characters.
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Anonymous 2016/12/11 19:11:29 No.1189470
File: Addi_Turkey_cum_u18chan.jpg - (4.74mb, 2099x2751, Addi_Turkey_cum.jpg)
Only upload one at a time, please. You should have noticed by now the damn images don't display correctly in multi-posts.
<"juicier" version of Addi turkey
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Anonymous 2016/12/12 02:04:44 No.1189578
File: absolutedisgust_u18chan.png - (95.09kb, 216x327, absolute disgust.png)
>>1189413
Why should you give a shit about the characters? It's fucking PORN. It's gratuitous self-gratification. It's like video games, which should be strictly game-play-oriented, not some long winded story about WhoTheFuckCares' struggle against NobodyGivesAShit to do XTaskWhichNeededNoExplaination.
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Anonymous 2016/12/12 06:09:35 No.1189628
Trollolololololol

Edited at 2016/12/15 00:50:51
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Anonymous 2016/12/12 12:37:23 No.1189718
>>1189578
You might've been funny if it wasn't so painfully obvious
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Anonymous 2016/12/14 17:20:01 No.1190615
File: ohgeez_u18chan.jpg - (8.87kb, 200x200, ohgeez.jpg)
>>1189578
Who told you that you have the right to define what porn should and should not be like?
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Page 31 LordProtector 2016/12/16 05:00:47 No.1191376
File: NHNF_Pg031_u18chan.jpg - (1mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg031.jpg)
Dayum...
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Anonymous 2016/12/16 05:04:37 No.1191378
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Anonymous 2016/12/16 07:37:11 No.1191409
>>1191376
Rub the bird.
Tenderize that turkey.
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Anynomous 2016/12/16 08:55:27 No.1191423
Just noticed he's groping her breasts. I love turkey breast.
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Anonymous 2016/12/16 14:44:54 No.1191480
Omg he's almost t o o i n n o c e n t
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Anonymous 2016/12/17 16:15:26 No.1191944
H_O_T___B_I_R_B___C_L_O_A_C_A

Edited at 2016/12/17 16:27:27
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 02:23:28 No.1194310
Can someone add the new page?
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Next Page LordProtector 2016/12/23 07:22:30 No.1194516
File: NHNF_Pg032_u18chan.jpg - (1004.97kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg032.jpg)
The Christmas won't be so happy as still nothing happened in this comic. Maybe next year...

Dayum!
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 08:52:48 No.1194538
File: image_390_u18chan.jpeg - (20.78kb, 278x323, image.jpeg)
TEAR HIS FUCKING PANTS OFF
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 10:04:22 No.1194544
>>1194516
"oh I'm sorry! Let me just check the damage I've done, take off your pants..."
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 11:39:55 No.1194553
>>1194516
CAW! CAW!
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 14:46:54 No.1194684
>>1194553
CAW CAW GIMME THAT COCK, FOR GODS SAKE I NEED THAT COCK *shreds his pants*
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 17:49:38 No.1194775
>>1194516
WherE iS shE placinG heR clawS?
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Anonymous 2016/12/23 17:59:01 No.1194783
I really dont want to wait for next thursday im sooooo excited
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Anonymous 2016/12/24 04:50:04 No.1194929
>>1194783
Unfortunately there won't be a new page next week.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7987077/

Sefeiren is sick.
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Anonymous 2016/12/24 09:04:57 No.1194985
Aww well im im wishing him to get better soon
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Anonymous 2016/12/24 09:14:36 No.1194989
Aaaaaaaand his dick is gone.
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Anonymous 2016/12/25 06:22:10 No.1195278
File: dismal_u18chan.jpg - (31.13kb, 400x414, dismal.jpg)
Just thought I'd post this. I know it doesn't have to do with the comic, but just thought you all would find it interesting. It's some of Sef's work from back in 2003. Amazing to see how far she has come in her art.
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Anonymous 2016/12/25 09:35:22 No.1195302
File: FL_003_u18chan.jpg - (97.92kb, 1200x672, FL_003.jpg)
>>1195278
fun fact: sef also drew porn of Dino and that Saber tooth tiger from the flinstones with I think a hybrid oc of theirs. cant seem to find it posted anywhere anymore though
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Anonymous 2016/12/26 01:52:37 No.1195498
F U C K
U
C
K

T H A T
H
A
T

B U R B
U
R
B
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Anonymous 2016/12/26 23:09:54 No.1195957
>>1195498
No, no. The burb will probably just scoot off before bad stuff happens.
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The word samuelblackthorn 2016/12/27 12:27:39 No.1196163
>>1195957
Because I'm sure you know what the word is? The bird bird bird is the word!
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Izzy~ 2016/12/27 22:27:30 No.1196269
This bird is kawaii as fucj
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Izzy~ 2016/12/27 22:28:12 No.1196270
This bird is kawaii as fucj
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Anonymous 2016/12/30 09:04:42 No.1197292
Quick reminder that raptor talons can exert upwards of 400psi. So like, the weight of several people PER SQUARE INCH. Concentrated onto four sharp points. Regardless of where she's clawing I would brobably bawlk, too.
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Page Delay LordProtector 2016/12/30 09:42:17 No.1197297
File: page_delay_u18chan.jpg - (71.06kb, 1200x780, page_delay.jpg)
MESSAGE FROM SEFEIREN:

"Hey guys,

Unfortunately I ended up getting a nasty case of the flu, so this week's page has been delayed. I'll do my best to get the page finished up as soon as I can, although it might take me a bit as a full page usually takes me about 5 days to finish. Regardless, I'll try and get back on track soon as I can!

Thanks for your understanding =)"

Edited at 2016/12/30 09:43:08
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Kajex Surnahm 2017/01/01 10:51:56 No.1198126
>>1197297

Poor sick birb. :(
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LordProtector 2017/01/06 08:02:52 No.1200805
File: NHNF_Pg033_u18chan.jpg - (1.09mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg033.jpg)
Next Page...
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Anonymous 2017/01/06 08:15:01 No.1200814
>>1200805
I wonder how long it actually takes him to plan and draw each page. Thanks for the post, as usual.
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Anonymous 2017/01/07 02:34:48 No.1201038
The absolutely real expression on Devon's face is killing me
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LordProtector 2017/01/07 19:51:06 No.1201279
>>1200814
As I know ~5 days per page... I think the script has already been written, but drawing quality comic pages is time consuming.
In this pace we will see them having sex around Christmas XD
(seriously: 4-5 pages per month and they aren't closer to have sex than on the first page.*sad panda face*)
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Anonymous 2017/01/08 08:49:39 No.1201487
>>1200805
So next page will be Devon asking her if she's ok, huh? Even just a little scene of Addy imagining she's getting fucked by Devon would be nice.
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Anonymous 2017/01/08 15:05:15 No.1201544
Waiting for them to got to the sex scene in one of these comics is like watching snails race. I wonder if artists would take the option of people being able to pay extra up front to get the ending first so they can see the stuff they actually want.
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Anonymous 2017/01/08 22:36:46 No.1201664
>>1201544
I like seeing characters interact normally before it gets sexy, though. It's better than say, that Marty character who gets raped and then suddenly wants all the dicks.
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Anonymous 2017/01/10 19:04:10 No.1202450
WILL YOU TWO JUST FUCK ALREADY!?
XD
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Anonymous 2017/01/10 22:56:09 No.1202563
I feel like every action in that last page could have been depicted in a couple panels...
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Anonymous 2017/01/12 12:36:55 No.1203740
It could have been depicted in less panels just the longer the comic runs the artist can keep getting a constant flow of monthly money since he already has people hooked on the comic. So less time wasted on thinking of a new story or something like that
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Anonybadger 2017/01/13 03:21:31 No.1203958
>>1203740
I actually kinda like the setup Seif puts into his comics. Granted these last few pages have kinda dragged on, but previously the characters got some good development, you got a hint of their relationship, and overall it's really cute. Besides, if Family Matters is any indication, 20 pages of story eventually leads up to like 30-40 pages of sex. So unless they're scrimping on the naughty this comic, you can expect the birb to be stuffed in due time.

Also two new pages released. Can't wait
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Anonymous 2017/01/13 05:14:30 No.1203979
Cant wait for someone to post the new pages ;)
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LordProtector 2017/01/13 05:16:14 No.1203980
File: NHNF_Pg034_u18chan.jpg - (1002.63kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg034.jpg)
Two pages and an extra...
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LordProtector 2017/01/13 05:16:15 No.1203981
File: NHNF_Pg035_u18chan.jpg - (853.9kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg035.jpg)
>>1203980
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LordProtector 2017/01/13 05:16:17 No.1203982
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>>1203980
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Anonymous 2017/01/13 05:24:40 No.1203984
GOD DAMNIT
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Anonymous 2017/01/13 08:36:33 No.1204033
File: 12493983._SY540__u18chan.jpg - (47.99kb, 498x540, 12493983._SY540_.jpg)
Maybe we'll see some action by Easter.
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Anonymous 2017/01/13 15:45:29 No.1204269
File: monty_python_god_u18chan.jpg - (153.93kb, 1073x836, monty_python_god.jpg)
GET ON WITH IT
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Optimism level: It's over 9000 LordProtector 2017/01/13 16:59:18 No.1204293
>>1204033
So soon? I don't think so :D *evil laugh*
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Anonymous 2017/01/15 09:43:05 No.1205544
>>1203980
Surprised to see Sef misplace the eurethra on a dog cock. You'd think somebody who makes so much 'feral' porn would know where it is.
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Anonymous 2017/01/19 16:58:07 No.1207955
http://i.imgur.com/h6IYWre.gifv
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Anonymous 2017/01/20 15:14:00 No.1208269
Can someone post the new page
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Anonymous 2017/01/20 16:32:55 No.1208300
That's a strange thing to notice.

Edited at 2017/01/20 16:33:32
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Anonymous 2017/01/21 03:26:45 No.1208468
>>1208269
This, I wanna see more cute bird dropping her spaghetti.
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LordProtector 2017/01/21 07:37:12 No.1208545
File: NHNF_Pg036_u18chan.jpg - (890.93kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg036.jpg)
>>1208269
LordProtector is here to save you from suffering :D
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Anonybadger 2017/01/21 08:14:50 No.1208558
She said the like work! She said it! The birbs gonna get stuffed soon. Porn trigger words have been spoken.
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kin 2017/01/21 14:39:31 No.1208624
>>1208545

Thank you!
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Anonymous 2017/01/21 18:55:51 No.1208845
File: 1269403785809_u18chan.jpg - (11.49kb, 479x360, 1269403785809.jpg)
Great.

Of course, he thinks she's speaking platonically and she'll need ten more pages to clear that up.
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Anonymous 2017/01/22 02:01:53 No.1209008
>>1208845

I like you... as a friend.
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Anonymous 2017/01/25 23:02:58 No.1210704
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where the fuck is the new page(s)? it should be out by now. we're ALL WAITING here.
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Anonymous 2017/01/26 20:57:06 No.1211078
File: Y09UBgh_u18chan.jpg - (28.77kb, 320x256, Y09UBgh.jpg)
....
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Anonymous 2017/01/26 20:57:07 No.1211079
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>>1211078
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 02:35:03 No.1211168
A H E M
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 02:50:11 No.1211173
Homie, this has been consistent for months now. New pages don't end up here until Friday or Saturday. Besides, you've probably got ten or more pages of dialogue before anyone gets their dick out.
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LordProtector 2017/01/27 05:09:44 No.1211211
File: NHNF_Pg037_u18chan.jpg - (1022.5kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg037.jpg)
Sorry for the delay... IRL stuffs kept me busy...

The burb said the L word... can't wait for the F word too :D
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 09:07:20 No.1211255
>>1211211
feathers?
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 11:10:00 No.1211286
>>1211255
Final Fantasy
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 11:44:51 No.1211334
>>1211211
Flux Capacitor?
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LordProtector 2017/01/27 17:04:00 No.1211410
>>1211255
>>1211286
>>1211334
Funny Folks Flooding the Forum Furiously... XD
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 22:54:34 No.1211553
>>1211410

Really low standards for funny...
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Anonymous 2017/01/27 23:01:59 No.1211556
>>1211211
Ugh. 10-to-1 he still doesn't get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOkZ71Srbo
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LordProtector 2017/01/29 06:55:48 No.1212272
File: 335_1_u18chan.jpg - (60.67kb, 448x473, 335.jpg)
>>1211553
Fuck me, right?
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LordProtector 2017/01/30 17:10:45 No.1213419
File: NHNF_Pg038_u18chan.jpg - (930.4kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg038.jpg)
Burb Hugging...
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MetroSexual Hipster 2017/01/30 23:55:14 No.1213706
Next level friend zoning
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Anonymous 2017/01/31 00:06:21 No.1213711
>>1213706
Next level friend boning
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Anonymous 2017/01/31 03:07:46 No.1213777
T O O I N N O C E N T
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Anonymous 2017/01/31 18:59:13 No.1214137
38 PAGES AND THE BIRD STILL ISNT STUFFED
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Anonymous 2017/01/31 19:04:19 No.1214141
>>1213419
The birb fucking position has been prepared :DDDDD
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Anonymous 2017/02/01 19:30:49 No.1214701
>>1214137
A little bit of romantism never killed anyone.
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Anonymous 2017/02/01 20:56:21 No.1214805
>>1214701
Its so hearth-warming when I see peeps who actually believe that NOT 80% of the fandom are porn-adicted assholes who start to hate when the porn not starts on the first page, culminates in stupid, brainless dirty talk and ends on the last page, but actually has worthy dialogues, a actual plot and nice artwork.

Edited at 2017/02/01 20:57:25
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Anonymous 2017/02/02 04:20:27 No.1215011
File: 1273049020413_u18chan.jpg - (7.45kb, 232x252, 1273049020413.jpg)
>>1214805
"hearth-warming"
"ends on the last page"
"plot"

Oh, you are just adorable!
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Anonymous 2017/02/02 06:14:19 No.1215053
>look all over the internets for cockblock comic
>finally find it
>12 pages ahead
>still no bird fucc

WHY
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Let me explain why... LordProtector 2017/02/02 16:55:38 No.1215290
File: martin_u18chan.gif - (4.93mb, 400x215, martin.gif)
>>1215053

No idea!
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Anonymous 2017/02/02 21:54:27 No.1215428
STUFF THAT TURKEY!!
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LordProtector 2017/02/03 05:05:25 No.1215570
File: NHNF_Pg039_u18chan.jpg - (832.46kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg039.jpg)
...
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Anonymous 2017/02/03 08:48:21 No.1215647
>39 pages and counting of pure tease

This almost brings me back to the days when BLTN was still unfinished. But we're on nowhere near that level yet.
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Anonymous 2017/02/03 10:05:11 No.1215659
File: x7MbBnW_u18chan.png - (566.33kb, 960x540, x7MbBnW.png)
>>1215647
Don't worry! Sexy pages are coming. It's gonna be great!
Just hold on...
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Anonthemouse11 2017/02/03 10:28:43 No.1215664
You mean like, best friends?
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Anonymous 2017/02/03 11:37:20 No.1215676
File: photo_0_u18chan.jpg - (74.73kb, 900x900, photo.jpg)
>>1215647
BLTN
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LordProtector 2017/02/03 16:41:04 No.1215751
>>1215659
If 40 pages of sexy time will follow then I'm fine with it. If 1-2 pages of rough fuck will follow I will cancel my patronage in an instant...
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Anonthemouse11 2017/02/04 01:01:36 No.1216027
>>1215659

Knowing sefeiren, it's highly unlikely to only have a few pages of sexytimes. Its usually half of the pages or a little less
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Anonybadger 2017/02/04 02:16:07 No.1216048
>>1215751
I have faith in Sef. This is the same guy that had like 40 pages of frisky sex with the mom and son comic and that was pretty story driven (and cockteased for a year). Since this seems to be longer, I feel there might be many...many positions.

And even if there isn't as much, as long as it doesn't pull an Eric Schwartz where only one page is sex and not even all too sexy (newest comic) then it'll be alright.
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Anonymous 2017/02/04 03:17:28 No.1216062
File: hqdefault_11_u18chan.jpg - (14kb, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg)
>>1216048
>When you thought buying her FF art pack would give you sneak peaks.
$20 wasted
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Anonymous 2017/02/05 06:34:40 No.1216541
>>1216062
On the bright side you supported the comic in hopes of lots of bird stuffing.

If I had all sorts of expendable income and didn't worry about spending money on dirty things I'd maybe support some artists. So at least Bizarro me does I guess.
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Anonymous 2017/02/05 09:36:10 No.1216577
Impatience will kill the world...
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Anonymous 2017/02/06 02:38:07 No.1216966
>>1216577
soon hopefully, i aint got time to wait for that
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Anonymous 2017/02/10 00:52:19 No.1218655
NEXT PAGE PLEASE
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LordProtector 2017/02/10 06:31:59 No.1218761
File: NHNF_Pg040_u18chan.jpg - (932.38kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg040.jpg)
... no buts just f*ck that bird already!
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Anonybadger 2017/02/10 07:14:02 No.1218772
>>1218761
I understand but.....
...I'M GAY!!! :D

The End. Round up next week boys
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LordProtector 2017/02/10 08:11:52 No.1218783
>>1218772
I understand but... I'm your Father... wait what?! (O.o)
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Anonymous 2017/02/10 10:29:10 No.1218812
>>1218761
I understand that... but... kono ore wa izure hokage no na o uketsuide, sendai no dono hokage o mo koete yarun da.
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Anonymous 2017/02/10 12:56:11 No.1218840
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>>1218761
PLEASE! No more 'splaining!
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Anonymous 2017/02/10 15:20:07 No.1218862
Praying for beakjob
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LordProtector 2017/02/10 15:44:18 No.1218866
>>1218862
That would be fantastic as I'm a big fan of beakjobs.
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Anonymous 2017/02/10 22:09:46 No.1218985
Praying this comic actually goes somewhere this month.
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Anonymous 2017/02/11 00:30:43 No.1219025
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I know but...
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LordProtector 2017/02/12 07:30:23 No.1219991
>>1219025
That would be a hell of a plot twist XD
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Joe Average 2017/02/14 04:52:18 No.1220852
>>1216048
Yeah the Family Matters comic tho left me feeling sad.

Hopefully this one ends better. =D. As a long time sufferer of unrequited wuv, you go Addy! I'm rooting for ya.
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MetroSexual Hipster # MOD # 2017/02/14 13:20:08 No.1221006
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>>1218761
I can understand that. But... (jumps off chair) I'M GAY

Edited at 2017/02/14 13:20:33
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LordProtector 2017/02/14 18:56:29 No.1221105
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V-Day Special...
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Anonymous 2017/02/14 20:42:01 No.1221160
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"Ohh", indeed.
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Anonymous 2017/02/17 04:24:29 No.1222935
still waiting to see some bird pussy get stuffed... B(
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LordProtector 2017/02/17 05:33:35 No.1222952
File: NHNF_Pg041_u18chan.jpg - (879.06kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg041.jpg)
...
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Anonybadger 2017/02/17 06:16:23 No.1222961
>>1222952
We're getting closer boys! Someones bone is going in a nest soon <3

Also, is it just me, or is this board constantly stuck on the 2nd page even when it's updated?
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Anonyferret 2017/02/17 17:29:39 No.1223104
>>1222961
Nah, I noticed that, too.
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Anonymous 2017/02/18 21:25:22 No.1223808
OH SHIT
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Anonymous 2017/02/21 21:25:00 No.1225172
So 7 months since page 1 was posted, we're now up to page 41 and nothing but some brief female masturbation as a tease, some yacking and bullshit. If I was paying for a subscription to Frisky Ferals on Patreon, I'd be fucking pissed, man. Actually makes me glad I'm just waiting to catch it for free as it's leaked.

And before anyone has a chance to flame, yes, I actually do pay for some Patreon subscriptions. But FF would definitely not be one due to how long their material drones on and they string you along for. Ridiculous.
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Anonymous 2017/02/22 07:44:48 No.1225394
>>1225172

Good thing the world doesn't exist to cater to your impatient, neanderthal level masturbation needs or the rest of us would miss out on things like story, buildup, and world building.
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Anonymous 2017/02/22 16:40:10 No.1225528
Plus you need build up, and character development to make the sex more arousing when it finally happens.
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Anonymous 2017/02/22 20:39:49 No.1225613
>>1225394
>story

kek

>seven months of buildup is a good thing

double kek

No Hyenas is almost three years old and still unfinished. I guess that's just good 'buildup'
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Anonymous 2017/02/22 22:45:06 No.1225674
>>1225613

You're cherry picking like there isn't 20 million furry porn comics that get right to the sex. Is your stance seriously that every artist should consider how fast you want the sex to happen? Are you *that* entitled?

Maybe it's a story that happens to have some sex in it (which isn't the focus.) Either way it clearly isn't your taste, which means unless you seriously believe every comic should cater to you, you can gtfo as your opinion on it becomes as valuable as shit from a dick.
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Anonymous 2017/02/23 19:17:15 No.1226088
>>1225674
>cherry picking

All of Sef's work is designed to milk her patreon as long as she can. It's not entitlement when you want a comic made exclusively for porn, that you support monthly, to take less than MULTIPLE YEARS to get to the only reason the comic is being made.

But please, keep sucking the artist's dick, I'm sure she'll notice you soon.
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Anonymous 2017/02/23 19:42:57 No.1226092
>>1226088

Tfw you only have to spend $1 to get these early
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Anonymous 2017/02/23 21:23:55 No.1226123
>>1226092
Oh, the entire comic is finished then?
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Anonybadger 2017/02/24 00:45:45 No.1226194
Two pages this week! Think one of them will actually have smut or smutty progression in it?
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 01:07:21 No.1226202
>>1226194
why 2 pages this time?
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 03:55:49 No.1226282
>>1226088

>It's not entitlement
>I want this artists work exclusively for porn tho
>I'm dumb enough to fund it when it's clearly not what I want
>Or better yet I'm not even funding it but I'll complain that other people are funding something that doesn't fit my tastes, which totally isn't entitlement at all.

Are you starting to realize how goddamn impossibly stupid you are?
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 04:06:54 No.1226286
>>1226282

Why are you putting this much energy into fighting over a furry porn comic?

Edited at 2017/02/24 04:07:20
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Anonybadger 2017/02/24 04:12:01 No.1226288
>>1226088
You just admitted that it's common for her work to drag on before porn happens. So why are you complaining about her doing the thing she normally does. Expecting different results from an artist who does one thing normally just cause you pay money is retarded. That's like expecting a futa artist to stop drawing dicks on a female just cause you pay them on patreon and then throwing shade for it.

If you want exclusively porn, support an artist that draws exclusively porn related comics. I'm sure eltonpot/Meesh would appreciate your money (note this isn't me insulting those two. I rather love their artwork)

I mean, honestly, I get being impatient and wanting the birb to be fucked, but if you think of it like a release after being teased for so long, it could be worth it. Like, imagine your girlfriend/boyfriend had you not fap for like 4 months, then after those 4 months were up they gave you the best head that lasted for hours. In the moment, that shit would feel good wouldn't it?

Think of this as a really long, teased blowjob, and maybe, just maybe, you will enjoy it better when your heads licked :P
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 04:21:01 No.1226291
File: NHNF_Pg042_u18chan.jpg - (897.8kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg042.jpg)
Spoiler: Still no sex
I like (some of) the build up and character interaction, but clearly I am an idiot.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 04:21:55 No.1226292
File: NHNF_Pg043_u18chan.jpg - (1016.25kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg043.jpg)
>>1226291
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Anonybadger 2017/02/24 04:28:39 No.1226293
>>1226292
Addy's comment in the 6th panel pretty much sums up everyone's thoughts for 43 pages XD.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 04:49:04 No.1226301
I'm really enjoying this comic. I have plenty of other comics that I'm following, so I don't really feel the urge to rush the artist. But hey, I guess that's just me.

I really wouldn't want sefeiren to jump the shark, somewhat like kabier did.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 19:49:41 No.1226498
>>1226282
Sef will notice you soon, Sir White Knight.

It'll take about two years for anything to happen after that though.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 19:52:25 No.1226501
>>1226288
>>1226282
Maybe if every page wasn't superfluous cockteasing you guys would have a point.

But they are, so you don't.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 20:00:14 No.1226503
I don't know what they say about mutts.
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Anonymous 2017/02/24 21:51:35 No.1226543
>>1226503
I bet its "They're good at burying bones"
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Anonybadger 2017/02/24 22:00:22 No.1226551
>>1226501
Is just two people talking cocktease to you? If so, then no porn comic without porn every page is going to be up to your taste.

Also we still kinda have a point. You could easilly just read someone elses comic instead of supporting someone you clearly don't like. For someone who wants a porn comic you sure are spending quite a bit of time not looking at a porn comic. I mean, the time you spent trying to "debunk" us you could have been fapping to Safe Word by Roanoke. I mean, that's a good comic with story and like porn every page. Why aren't you fapping

Why you so angry at something you either.
1. Are not paying for
2. Continously are paying for despite knowing this is what's gonna happen?
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Anonymous 2017/02/26 12:41:43 No.1227240
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$1,300+/month for 4, maybe 5 pages of genuine content.

I need to start a Patreon. lol
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Anonymous 2017/02/26 14:03:11 No.1227261
>>1227240
Very baldly paid for a comics author.
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Anonybadger 2017/02/26 18:16:19 No.1227346
>>1227240
Can you draw that good? If not, hang it up now cause you won't even get a dollar. Hell, if you aren't known you probably won't scrape by with a penny :/
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Anonymous 2017/02/27 02:38:00 No.1227576
God I love drama
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Anonymous 2017/02/27 08:12:36 No.1227698
>>1227240
Can they get that big? Addys species I mean. Cause that's a damn big bird.
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Anonymous 2017/02/27 17:17:36 No.1227926
>>1227698
Yes.
http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20170210&t=2&i=1172200421
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Anonymous 2017/02/28 01:13:56 No.1228310
>>1227926
yeah but if you try to fuck that you'll likely be missing body parts :P
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Anonymous 2017/03/01 06:10:12 No.1229093
>>1227240
That number gets inflated by pledge bots that sub for under $100 to get content with fake payment info, and Patreon takes a cut which I'm pretty sure isn't included in that amount, and people can set a monthly cap so their other subscriptions might cap them and stiff you on payment.

Drawing smut is kind of good as a side hustle, if you care about the work or you REALLY want to make money with your downtime, but with the amount of time you have to put in to actually get anywhere, and the amount of ways you can get fucked trying to sell porn on the internet, you could excel at a lot of other side hustles, and potentially make way more.

Edited at 2017/03/01 06:11:29
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Anonymous 2017/03/03 07:23:23 No.1230060
File: NHNF_Pg044_u18chan.jpg - (857.91kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg044.jpg)
>>1226292
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Anonymous 2017/03/03 07:27:19 No.1230064
File: download_9_u18chan.jpg - (12.01kb, 443x114, download.jpg)
we getting their now
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Anonybadger 2017/03/03 08:24:46 No.1230093
>>1230064
And then Simon comes in unannounced, tells them they all got a work letter to a big rich client, they don't bork and go on that journey.

The End :^)

*In all seriousness, this dumb mutt better make a move soon.
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Anonymous 2017/03/03 08:47:47 No.1230103
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Cliffhangers
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Anonymous 2017/03/03 14:42:28 No.1230228
File: 1273841832233_u18chan.jpg - (35.65kb, 640x480, 1273841832233.jpg)
MOTHERFUCKING TOUCH HER YOU FOOL
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Anonymous 2017/03/04 17:20:52 No.1230665
Everybody is on edge for him to make a move and I'm over here just enjoying the sweet story.
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Anonymous 2017/03/04 20:49:10 No.1230718
to be honest, i enjoyed the story, but this baiting shit is going too far.
get with it already
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Anonymous 2017/03/05 19:45:05 No.1231164
>>1230665
You're not alone.

I read this comic for the love story.
The first sex scene almost bother me.
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Anonymous 2017/03/07 09:54:31 No.1232090
>>1231164
its entire premise was to be a porn comic, this is what it was voted for which is why people are getting impatient.
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Anonymous 2017/03/07 17:23:30 No.1232181
>>1232090
The first masturbation scene come too fast.
No poetry, just porn. And porn without poetry is just boring.
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Anonymous 2017/03/08 10:41:26 No.1232620
>>1232181
>no poetry, just porn

that is literally what this comic was expected to be.
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Anonybadger 2017/03/09 01:08:45 No.1232892
>>1232181
I disagree to an extent. While too much gratuitous porn could be much, it's not exactly a bad thing that she masturbated. Not only did they add a little taste of what's to come, it also effectively showed in a well done way how Addy feels about the dumb mutt. It's rather accurate to how people hide their feelings at times too, fantasizing and masturbating when you think it's safe. It not too out there to see it.

So honestly, there is some "poetry" to it. And you know what, who cares if there's not a all poetry in it?
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Anonymous 2017/03/09 22:19:00 No.1233137
I swear, if he doesn't make a move in this next page I'm going to die from suspense.
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Anonymous 2017/03/10 04:22:02 No.1233282
New Page on Patreon !
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Anonymous 2017/03/10 04:58:38 No.1233300
File: NHNF_Pg045_u18chan.jpg - (879.84kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg045.jpg)
its happpppppppening
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Anonymous 2017/03/10 07:34:31 No.1233376
>>1233300
COMMENCE THE
S W O O N I N G
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Anonymous 2017/03/10 08:57:41 No.1233390
And then BAM! Out of no where it becomes inflation vore.
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MetroSexual Hipster # MOD # 2017/03/10 19:34:41 No.1233563
>>1233390
whew that would be hilarious
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Anonymous 2017/03/11 05:44:09 No.1233741
STOP FUCKING TEASING US! XD
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Anonymous 2017/03/11 10:20:34 No.1233779
File: 2SVE28_u18chan.gif - (1.04mb, 320x240, 2SVE28.gif)
:')
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Anonymous 2017/03/11 11:35:59 No.1233799
Please don't fuck the chicken
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Anonymous 2017/03/12 02:01:05 No.1234041
anyone able to get the new pages?
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Anonymous 2017/03/12 02:30:22 No.1234050
File: maxresdefault_17_u18chan.jpg - (58.27kb, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)
Boi, Sefeiren can only make so many pages a week!
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Anonymous 2017/03/12 03:11:42 No.1234065
>>1233799

he's gon fuck it
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Anonymous 2017/03/14 01:22:53 No.1235039
anything new?
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Anonymous 2017/03/16 09:51:40 No.1236299
Why does the post not go forward when you post something?
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 01:48:16 No.1236593
>>1235039
Not yet. I'll post later tonight if there's an update.
>>1236299
My guess is posts "time out" after a certain amount of time and no longer will bump. Or else a mod dun fucked up. I'll see If I can poke a mod to fix it.
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 02:08:13 No.1236596
Fuck the birb incoming?
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 02:14:48 No.1236599
File: NHNF_Pg046_u18chan.jpg - (891.91kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg046.jpg)
Kissing Intensifies
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 05:03:13 No.1236659
oh...

Edited at 2017/03/17 05:04:45
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 05:19:27 No.1236660
i dont think ive ever been more excited than i am waiting for him to fuck this bird
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Kajex Surnahm 2017/03/17 06:51:35 No.1236685
>>1236599

O.O

... This waiting is a beautiful torture.... ;___;
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 08:02:31 No.1236690
>>1236593
It is the problem with the post that one does not see the new comments because it is so far behind
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Anonymous 2017/03/17 16:35:21 No.1236770
...Almost... There...
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Anonymous 2017/03/18 10:27:11 No.1237040
Test
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Anonymous 2017/03/23 05:59:52 No.1238960
Why is this stuck at page 5-6 even when there are updates?
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Joe Average 2017/03/23 06:43:18 No.1238968
>>1238960
Yeah it's weird, it's not bumping up. You can still jump to it via the indices.

Thanks in advance for the uploader who's putting these up. I'd pay for it myself... if I had money...
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Kazrak Kobold 2017/03/23 21:36:00 No.1239154
bump......in the night (by gunmouth) ;)
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Anonymous 2017/03/24 02:33:13 No.1239255
File: 1473810920291_u18chan.jpg - (19.99kb, 342x316, 1473810920291.jpg)
lurking on a daily basis
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Anonymous 2017/03/24 04:11:34 No.1239285
File: NHNF_Pg047_u18chan.jpg - (867.88kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg047.jpg)
AMBIGIOUS GROPE
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Anonymous 2017/03/24 04:48:56 No.1239294
File: 8c34bbc472e7515c752edabaaf51970cca9871f7_hq_u18chan.jpg - (71.08kb, 1024x576, 8c34bbc472e7515c752edabaaf51970cca9871f7_hq.jpg)
That speech bubble makes me uneasy.....
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Anonymous 2017/03/25 06:53:13 No.1239897
Cool
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Anonymous 2017/03/26 03:38:58 No.1240316
Just eat that sloppy fuckin bird pussy already!
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Anonymous 2017/03/27 20:03:38 No.1241047
>>1239285
The suspense
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Anonymous 2017/03/28 19:31:38 No.1241387
:-)
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Y U NO BUMP Anonymous 2017/03/30 00:06:22 No.1241890
Can anyone please explain why I have to go to page 6 to find this comic every time? :c

Edited at 2017/03/30 00:06:50
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Anonymous 2017/03/30 22:04:25 No.1242267
After they get pushed back far enough they won't bump. Just use the feral index.
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 03:19:21 No.1242342
WHERE'S THE NEW PAGE
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 03:26:05 No.1242347
>>1242342

idk!!! someone needs 2 upload
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 05:37:09 No.1242411
PLEASE GOD NEW PAGE!
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 08:49:05 No.1242479
>>1242411
I picture you sitting there with your dick in your hand since the last update, and you've been PAINFULLY erect since then and you're just like, "Fuck the bird! I need to cum NOW!!"
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 13:36:49 No.1242542
>>1242479

H....how did you know? ;.;
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 16:09:57 No.1242564
>>1242479

Well I NEED to see the bird's pussy get groped and fucked damn it!! D:>
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Anonymous 2017/03/31 21:58:06 No.1242669
File: NHNF_Pg048_u18chan.jpg - (1020.14kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg048.jpg)
I just couldn't wait, 1$ went away
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Anonymous 2017/04/01 00:05:32 No.1242710
Oh fuck yes! Dat bird pussy!
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Anonymous 2017/04/01 17:35:44 No.1243034
>>1242710
Pussy/shit n' piss hole.
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Anonymous 2017/04/02 01:40:19 No.1243283
>>1243034

no worse or better than an asshole
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Anonymous 2017/04/02 03:45:53 No.1243339
>>1243034

I'd still ram my tongue into it.
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Anonymous 2017/04/03 06:38:23 No.1244109
I......... would not. It's the one thing that's bothered me about this comic. That hole. She's hot, I'm sure he's hot, the conversations are great, and all the physical contact has been steamy enough but I can't get my mind away from how much her cloaca looks like a puckered sphincter :/
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Anonymous 2017/04/04 16:15:53 No.1244553
>>1244109

sadly yes. The cloaca from the teaser pic before the comic started looked amazing. The cloaca in the comic looks really cheap
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Anonymous 2017/04/05 00:33:00 No.1244767
>>1244553
I don't want no cheap ass cloaca. I want the real premium shit not some dingy chinese knock off.
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Anonymous 2017/04/05 02:47:27 No.1244805
>>1244109

I have to agree..I was put off by the butthole-looking cloaca. The way it was drawn in the earlier pages looked a lot more appealing. Not so....anus...
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Anonymous 2017/04/05 05:42:25 No.1244846
>>1244805

It just needs a big fat dick in it, trust me, it will look much more appetizing when its getting fucked good, and deep, and getting nice and stretched out.
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Anonymous 2017/04/06 11:55:55 No.1245238
Post thies Post new he com not of page 1
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Anonymous 2017/04/07 01:00:05 No.1245434
File: NHNF_Pg049_u18chan.jpg - (996.26kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg049.jpg)
youre all welcome
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Anonymous 2017/04/07 02:10:39 No.1245455
Oh yeah, that bird pussy looks good enough to eat already!
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Anonymous 2017/04/07 03:48:47 No.1245486
>>1245455

I hope she likes it >:) this is what she asked for
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Anonymous 2017/04/07 13:28:27 No.1245600
IT'S HAPPENING
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Anonymous 2017/04/09 18:28:43 No.1246461
File: itshappening_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (18.09kb, 360x270, itshappening_u18chan.jpg)
AHHHHH
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Anonymous 2017/04/13 16:52:02 No.1247969
repair thies post
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Anonymous 2017/04/14 14:51:42 No.1248407
anyone have the new page?
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Anonymous 2017/04/14 15:40:44 No.1248422
File: 25045692410605912321_u18chan.jpg - (179.52kb, 936x1200, 2504569241060591232 (1).jpg)
next
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Anonymous 2017/04/14 19:05:38 No.1248500
>>1248422

Thank you!
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Anonymous 2017/04/14 21:29:21 No.1248546
"I don't know what this is, I'm not sure I WANT to know, so I guess I'll just grit my teeth and soldier on."
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Anonymous 2017/04/14 21:44:23 No.1248552
He's toO I N N O C E N T
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Anonymous 2017/04/15 11:55:04 No.1248769
Damn, she's wetter than Niagara Falls.

Edited at 2017/04/15 11:55:56
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Anonymous 2017/04/15 19:00:57 No.1248864
Well, she IS wet for him.
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Anonymous 2017/04/18 21:00:17 No.1250323
There is nothing new for this?

Such a loss leave it so
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 01:22:09 No.1251025
awaiting new page (:
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 03:03:39 No.1251049
New page in patreon
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 03:49:37 No.1251076
File: NHNF051_u18chan.jpg - (192.02kb, 936x1200, NHNF 051.jpg)
sorry, not much going on here
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 03:56:17 No.1251084
>>1251076

Thanks for the new page :)
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 08:13:06 No.1251129
File: 4710a86a360a04014b10c50958e01358_u18chan.gif - (1.9mb, 420x236, 4710a86a360a04014b10c50958e01358.gif)
>>1251088
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 16:35:27 No.1251316
>:c
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 19:42:57 No.1251422
Oh.
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Anonymous 2017/04/21 23:18:12 No.1251482
>>1251088

B-baka!
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Anonymous 2017/04/22 14:27:27 No.1251724
>>1251088
He's really not good at sexy time talk.
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Furrynomous 2017/04/22 21:08:39 No.1251874
>>1251482
Aho! Aho!
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Anonymous 2017/04/23 03:04:16 No.1251968
Intense birdly stare activate
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Anonymous 2017/04/24 01:00:25 No.1252441
>>1251088
It was at this moment he knew...he fucked up.
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Anonymous 2017/04/27 20:37:58 No.1254241
is now on page 8 why this pot not work corecct
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Anonymous 2017/04/27 20:58:37 No.1254244
File: NHNF052_u18chan.jpg - (182.68kb, 936x1200, NHNF 052.jpg)
double feature
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Anonymous 2017/04/27 20:58:39 No.1254245
File: NHNF053_u18chan.jpg - (158.51kb, 936x1200, NHNF 053.jpg)
>>1254244
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Anonymous 2017/04/27 21:35:57 No.1254255
finally he gets his tongue in her pussy!
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Foxxer # ADMIN # 2017/04/28 08:44:10 No.1254449
test bumping after changing bump limit.
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Foxxer # ADMIN # 2017/04/28 08:50:16 No.1254456
File: FoxxerAvi_0_u18chan.jpg - (70.99kb, 528x447, FoxxerAvi.jpg)
testing

Okay bumping works properly in basement boards - when an image is used. Do not bump posts randomly without actual content please.

Edited at 2017/04/28 08:51:35
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Anonymous 2017/04/28 09:41:58 No.1254469
cool
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Anonymous 2017/04/28 12:23:48 No.1254492
>>1254456
Is discussion not considered content? I thought imageboards were for discussion, not image archival.
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Anonymous 2017/04/28 13:58:00 No.1254510
>>1254470
... I love Simon.
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Anonymous 2017/04/29 11:22:48 No.1254944
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Anonymous 2017/05/05 05:01:11 No.1257246
New page in patreon
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Anonymous 2017/05/05 05:01:48 No.1257247
File: NHNF054_u18chan.jpg - (201.79kb, 936x1200, NHNF 054.jpg)
54
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Anonymous 2017/05/05 05:45:28 No.1257260
my god yes, eat that fuckin pussy!
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Anonymous 2017/05/05 06:14:04 No.1257270
It still looks like an anus. And I never go bass to mouth...
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Anonymous 2017/05/05 16:47:53 No.1257387
Great. Now I'm probably gonna have to sift through new and old images.
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A-Non-E-Moose 2017/05/05 23:54:12 No.1257500
>>1257270
well considering its a cloaca its literally an ass a pee hole and a pussy all in one hole so you arent far off.
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Anonymous 2017/05/06 01:01:41 No.1257527
1257274 Behold, a wild ass has appeared.

Seems someone doesn't understand the concept of story telling and building up tension both in story and in reader for the release payoff. Probably finishes as fast whacking off as he wants this comic to go.

Build stamina.
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Anonymous 2017/05/06 09:38:42 No.1257831
File: oh-you-like-that-hu-poop-comes-from-there-oh-1206566_u18chan.png - (185.35kb, 500x740, oh-you-like-that-hu-poop-comes-from-there-oh-1206566.png)
>>1257500
This is what I think of mainly while reading this comic
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Anonymous 2017/05/06 12:59:45 No.1257862
>>1257500

and its not like its gross that he is eating it, licking an asshole is hot too. He's just licking them both at the same time.
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Anonymous 2017/05/06 18:27:13 No.1257979
new page
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Anonymous 2017/05/07 07:19:05 No.1258269
Eating out assholes is an acquired taste. Definitely one I'll never be acquiring but you know, feel free to enjoy it. Just remember that you're probably in the minority.
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Anonymous 2017/05/08 04:59:11 No.1258573
>>1258269

I've never eaten out an asshole...but if it was this birds cloaca...or any fictional non-human character...oh I'd eat there fuckin assholes alright! maybe even right after they took a shit!
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Anonymous 2017/05/09 00:25:03 No.1258930
>>1258573
Speaking of the realm of fictional characters and eating ass. There has to be a fictional character out there who's ass tastes like candy. It only makes sense, most people complain about it tasting bad so why doesn't some one make a character who ass tastes nice? In all the history of the net it has to have been done before. I implore you fellow interneters for help in finding this content. Also, can't wait to see the next page.
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Anonymous 2017/05/09 01:06:25 No.1258944
>>1258930
Apparently this character's ass smells like mint: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/22518373/

Not sure about taste tho.
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Anonymous 2017/05/10 16:41:58 No.1259828
>>1258930

Sunibee sometimes draws lilibees which apparently secrete nectar from their ass so there's that

Edited at 2017/05/10 16:42:09
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Anonymous 2017/05/11 15:46:52 No.1260225
There's actually a gif of a real chicken getting eaten out on reddit /r/EnoughInternet . It has 157 upvotes atm if you wanna go look for it, but i don't think i should post it here. It's oddly sensual tho.

Edited at 2017/05/11 15:48:02
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Anonymous 2017/05/12 04:06:25 No.1260508
New page in patreon

Edited at 2017/05/12 04:31:21
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Anonymous 2017/05/12 04:56:49 No.1260568
File: NHNF055_u18chan.jpg - (174.13kb, 936x1200, NHNF 055.jpg)
almost
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Anonymous 2017/05/12 05:34:13 No.1260598
>>1260568

YES! Lick that shitpoopcunt.
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Anonymous 2017/05/12 21:48:18 No.1260900
>>1260609
Plz don't repost pages we've already seen. I don't see the point. :/

Edited at 2017/05/12 21:48:30
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Anonymous 2017/05/13 07:50:24 No.1261151
>>1260900

Yeah let's please not mess up the thread with random pages all out of order. The thread can be redone with high resolution images when they're ALL available, or just post them in a new thread.
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Anonymous 2017/05/19 00:00:38 No.1264052
new page!
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Anonymous 2017/05/19 01:50:32 No.1264090
File: NHNF_Pg056_u18chan.jpg - (1.24mb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg056.jpg)
p56
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Anonymous 2017/05/19 07:31:26 No.1264228
Seriously, why are we re-posting already posted pages?
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Anonymous 2017/05/19 23:38:18 No.1264447
>>1264228
I'm guessing they're using this as an excuse to keep it on the first page?
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Anonymous 2017/05/20 00:17:47 No.1264461
Oh no... See the bottom panel? Devon got swiped at and cut by Addy. Gonna be another 45 pages to put a band-aid on it ;-;
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Anonymous 2017/05/23 23:14:07 No.1265584
>>1264461
I lost it.
Then I cried.
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Anonymous 2017/05/24 02:19:36 No.1265677
>>1264090
Oof! That's gotta sting.
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Anonymous 2017/05/24 14:36:10 No.1265889
>>1264461
laughed out loud for 2 minutes, so true
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 00:37:40 No.1266845
New page in patreon
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 00:41:35 No.1266849
File: NHNF057_u18chan.jpg - (189.91kb, 936x1200, NHNF 057.jpg)
are you guys excited for a billion pages of them talking about devon's cut ear
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 00:41:37 No.1266850
File: NHNF058_u18chan.jpg - (162.27kb, 936x1200, NHNF 058.jpg)
>>1266849
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Anonymous User 2017/05/26 02:58:22 No.1266898
Yup. Next 45 pages will be a quest to find a band-aid and maybe some socks for addy because sefeiren doesn't feel like drawing her fe- I mean so devon won't get scratched. What a shit show this is becoming.
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 04:18:11 No.1266919
Pg 44 and 45 have been posted up on e621 and will be posted here sometime soon I guarantee it
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 05:06:24 No.1266931
>>1266919
You know that page 44 and 45 was posted on here a long time ago right. Page 57 and 58 was just posted yesterday. why would we be interested in pages we have already seen? Seriously, get a grip man.

Edited at 2017/05/26 05:07:00
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 05:29:12 No.1266933
>>1266931
Me get a grip? Dude have you not looked at the posts of this comic and how someone posted previous pages that have already been posted? so don't tell me to get a fucking grip
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 05:56:23 No.1266935
I called it
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 09:26:02 No.1266991
File: tumblr_od2668enaD1r72dfyo3_400_u18chan.gif - (2mb, 268x235, tumblr_od2668enaD1r72dfyo3_400.gif)
I should have known that as soon as something interesting starts happening sefeiren has already planned another 20 page plot twist.
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 10:21:20 No.1267001
>>1266935
you knew people would repost stuff without even checking how long ago we already had it?
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 12:31:26 No.1267021
>>1267001
Just look through the threads of this comic and you will see. Start from the top and scroll down
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 17:48:53 No.1267083
>>1267021
there must be a reason. Perhaps...
Nope, totally the same.
Why is that? What's your theory?
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Anonymous 2017/05/26 18:42:15 No.1267094
>>1267083
I have no theory. I'd like to know why someone is posting pages of this comic that we already have.
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Anonthemouse 2017/05/30 08:26:29 No.1268884
>>1267265
Do you think they're THAT retarded?
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Anonymous 2017/05/30 21:14:26 No.1269131
>>
This place needs a nuke Fuck mcgee 2017/06/01 02:32:17 No.1269806
Pls nuke this thread and upload the pages in an orderly fashion.
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Anonymous 2017/06/01 21:32:49 No.1270145
File: NHNF059_u18chan.jpg - (131.63kb, 936x1200, NHNF 059.jpg)
new page
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Anonymous 2017/06/01 21:40:07 No.1270151
I predict that page 46 of this comic will be posted here soon even though we already have it
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Anony 2017/06/01 23:51:41 No.1270208
>>1270145
I don't understand the last two three panels. Is it purposefully left uncommented so we can't guess what's going out? Is he going to cut her claws? Tie her down? Give her the talk? His expression is pretty stern.
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Anonymous 2017/06/02 01:16:47 No.1270229
he's gonna fuck the birb until she can't speak anymore
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Anonymous 2017/06/02 02:42:58 No.1270255
File: 1496352018.sefeiren_nhnf_pg046f_u18chan.jpg - (892.66kb, 936x1200, 1496352018.sefeiren_nhnf_pg046f.jpg)
.
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Anonymous 2017/06/02 02:47:55 No.1270258
Oh look, 46 was posted again...

Edited at 2017/06/02 02:48:13
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Anonymous 2017/06/02 03:40:20 No.1270273
>>1270258
I called it again :)
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Anonymous 2017/06/02 13:15:36 No.1270383
He's gonna hold her legs and continue ;D

as for the idiot(s?) posting past pages, it is annoying but not worth fussing over. Not hard to simply scroll past 'em.
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Anonymous 2017/06/09 00:47:34 No.1273515
File: NHNF060_u18chan.jpg - (180.23kb, 936x1200, NHNF 060.jpg)
shaking the bird
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Anonymous 2017/06/09 05:04:13 No.1273540
File: 1496969664.sefeiren_nhnf_pg047f_u18chan.jpg - (868.54kb, 936x1200, 1496969664.sefeiren_nhnf_pg047f.jpg)
.
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Anonymous 2017/06/09 05:40:21 No.1273551
>>1273515

*sings* I see you, baby. Shakin' that burd, shakin' that burd.
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Anonymous 2017/06/10 12:39:43 No.1273993
>>1273551
I though he was shaking her too but he's actually just turning her (penetration coming :3 )
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Anonymous 2017/06/10 13:17:01 No.1274005
File: 6dc_u18chan.png - (681.51kb, 1034x732, 6dc.png)
You can't get ravaged by sharp claws if the claws are pointing the other way
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Kajex Surnahm 2017/06/10 16:28:11 No.1274113
She gon' get it. <3
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Jjhkl RoBekobec 2017/06/10 20:18:58 No.1274226
Ujjkk
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Anonymous 2017/06/12 17:33:46 No.1275341
Fuck the bird already please...knot her hard.
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 01:10:53 No.1276881
New page in patreon
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 01:11:22 No.1276882
File: NHNF061_u18chan.jpg - (176.26kb, 936x1200, NHNF 061.jpg)
>>1275341

it'll probably take like 20 more pages until that happens
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 02:32:04 No.1276925
Page 61 omg. I must toss Seif Some money for that one. That licking <3
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 06:23:39 No.1277016
File: whydoibotherdoingstufflikethisanonymously_u18chan.png - (2.19mb, 936x810, whydoibotherdoingstufflikethisanonymously.png)
...
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 06:38:17 No.1277019
File: y4gFwdMmLBw_u18chan.jpg - (58.75kb, 451x604, y4gFwdMmLBw.jpg)
Sefeiren is nazi?

Edited at 2017/06/16 06:39:38
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 09:50:33 No.1277057
>>1277016
Give this man a Pulitzer
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Anonymous 2017/06/16 11:56:46 No.1277080
>>1277016
Dammit!! You got a legit laugh from that.
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Anonymous 2017/06/22 20:23:28 No.1280250
File: 1498161038.sefeiren_nhnf_pg049f_u18chan.jpg - (996.82kb, 936x1200, 1498161038.sefeiren_nhnf_pg049f.jpg)
.
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Anonymous 2017/06/22 20:27:46 No.1280251
>>1280250
Why do you keep posting duplicate images? That's an old page.
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Anonymous 2017/06/22 21:37:26 No.1280270
File: NHNF062_u18chan.jpg - (185.47kb, 936x1200, NHNF 062.jpg)
new page: 62
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Anonymous 2017/06/25 20:35:20 No.1281644
Has he really been fingering her cloaca for 13 pages?
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Anonymous 2017/06/26 08:22:35 No.1281868
This shit still going?
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Anonymous 2017/06/26 14:05:09 No.1281934
File: ohcomeon_u18chan.jpg - (46.73kb, 1280x720, ohcomeon.jpg)
I understand if this is a paid comic you want to drag it out for every cent you can but come on.... Just put it in her already! I COULD understand if he was too big to fit in her why they'd be fucking around this way all this time (and why its one sided as beaks aren't good for blowing and talons don't give a good hand job) but this is a furry comic so a whale could fit in a mouse, so what is the hold up?
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Anonymous 2017/06/26 22:56:23 No.1282098
>>1281644
i thought you were exaggerating but jesus christ theres 17 pages of just fingering/licking. rushed sex scenes are bad, but prolonged sex scenes also suck

y i k e s
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 00:00:45 No.1283490
page?
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 04:23:31 No.1283538
File: NHNF063_u18chan.jpg - (226.47kb, 936x1200, NHNF 063.jpg)
!
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 12:07:44 No.1283683
Fuck.

The.

Birb.
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 12:29:33 No.1283688
Jesus fucking christ just get on with it.

The pace of this comic is only acceptable if you're doing a page a DAY. And even then it's fucking painful. At this rate, the foreplay is going to take literally half a year.
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 13:12:47 No.1283702
>>1283688

>20 more pages of awkward foreplay, bullshit accidents and stalling
>Page 80
>Dick finally out
>Everything in position
>Dick touches birbhole
>Fade to black, maybe with moans in the background
>THE END

And I wouldn't even be surprised any more.
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Anonymous 2017/06/30 18:44:37 No.1283798
>>1283702

Part of me can see this happening as well anon..
i've always purchased this mans art packs, even was patreon for this comic.. But its been what? 20 pages of cropped facial expressions, bird poon and sound effects;

Dude we get it; just move the fuck on already.
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Anonymous 2017/07/05 03:18:14 No.1285955
>>1283538
honestly thought it was the joker laughing for some reason.
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Anonymous 2017/07/06 21:16:23 No.1286672
File: NHNF064_u18chan.jpg - (180.48kb, 936x1200, NHNF 064.jpg)
64
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Anonymous 2017/07/07 00:10:10 No.1286726
And boom goes the dynamite
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Anonymous 2017/07/07 04:03:41 No.1286799
Have you guys noticed the BG changing color depending on the scenes happening?
Before the sexy stuff, the whole night, it was all cool colors in the border, blues and such, kinda like a tired 'atmosphere' or something, but the moment it gets heated, both in dialogue and actions, the colors shift slowly to reds, when Devon broke the mood by asking her if she liked it, the border tones shift back to blues, then when it gets saucy again, goes to the reds, and the more heated it gets the brighter the red border is and so on..

It's just a really subtle thing I now noticed, but I found it clever.

Edited at 2017/07/07 04:04:53
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Anonymous 2017/07/07 06:29:58 No.1286934
Kinda hoping this will end with her climaxing, asking for more, and him responding "Sorry, I did that for a friend. But I'm just not into you, birdy."

It would just be funny to me.
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Anonymous 2017/07/07 21:00:43 No.1287168
>>1286934
He already admit to like her

Beside that, it would be quite a fast way to get is face clawed in
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 01:12:51 No.1289884
page?
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 03:02:35 No.1289918
>>1289884

its not out yet
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 06:32:40 No.1289970
File: t1FEqnCGT69HkJ7LpCU6QqmL18cBx09DUk6lNPZNrz_ipygHjiMvOf6vghD00LgE_u18chan.jpg - (166.87kb, 936x1200, t1FEqnCGT69HkJ7LpCU6QqmL18cBx09DUk6lNPZNrz_ipygHjiMvOf6vghD00LgE.jpg)
.
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Anony 2017/07/14 06:42:56 No.1289974
I predict another 15 pages where they discuss their relationship until we get boning.

Minor fault in last panel, his ear wound has gone. Rapid regeneration!
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 13:57:38 No.1290136
First image posted in September 2016 and by July 2017 and -65 pages- we're at fingering.

Sefeiren's comics are exhausting.
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 15:48:28 No.1290159
Come on! put your dick in her cloaca!
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uh oh Anonymous 2017/07/14 17:19:56 No.1290205
I get the feeling that this is it for this comic. For now at least. Page 65 on patreon was public so everyone can see it. Not to mention that sei has lost many patrons recently for dragging this shitshow of a comic on for as long as she did. We might not see any more action until someone overpays for her shit.
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 17:42:41 No.1290214
People didn't complain about Family Matters taking so long, (ok, maybe some did), so why are they complaining about this one. Her art takes time and I'm enjoying this comic. Some people need to grow some patience. And that's coming from someone who's not a patient person.
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 20:08:22 No.1290243
Good god flork the birb already. Bet she's going to fall asleep and it'll be another year before the florking starts
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Anonymous 2017/07/14 22:37:24 No.1290286
>>1290214

Because Family Matters still got to the actual sex quicker. Fucking occurred by page 30, and kept occurring in between bouts of dialogue.

More importantly, it had the feeling of actually making progress. There were slower parts, sure, but they were dialogue that kept moving the thing, there was something happening. There were new situations. There was tension for fucking, but there was also actual plot happening, if you cared about Sefeiren's dragon OC's personal plot.

NHNF has been going on for 65 pages, and literally ALL there is is the tension about them fucking. It promises porn from the first pages and the whole drama is that the birb wants to fuck the doggo, yet is hesitant to act on it. It's the thing the readers expect, the thing this comic is building towards.

And yet, when it finally starts even going in that direction, it's page after page of same scene and same exact thing. At first it's this "Oh I want it but oh no it's wrong" pussyfooting, and then it turns into over 20 pages of slowly, slowly, repetitively fingering her, broken up by pointless distractions.

People want to see them fuck. People want to have some sort of a payoff. People don't want to have the same page again and again about how he's fingerbanging the bird.

After they get down to it, in Family Matters, in 25 pages Kindle has fucked his mother, slept and started fucking his mother again.
After they get down to it in NHNF, they've started foreplay and are after 25 pages still engaged in foreplay.

Both comics had a long buildup, for a porn comic. Family Matters actually got down to it after that, though. On the other hand, it turns out NHNF was actually building up FOR a buildup.

This is something she's asking money for, and which at this point feels like she's banging out more or less the same page and coming up with excuses to draw it out for as long as possible. Which might explain why people are getting salty and impatient.
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Anonymous 2017/07/19 06:06:34 No.1292926
>>1289970
I'm really at a loss to understand how a non-anthro bird can be sexy.
The wings can't hold you, the talons can't touch you, the beak can't kiss you back...
It'd be like fucking a football with feathers glued to it.
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Anonymous 2017/07/19 20:45:05 No.1293280
Comic just ended
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Anonymous 2017/07/20 07:10:24 No.1293509
>>1290214
Family Matters had good ol' motherly dragon incest rather early. I don't mind build up and story to make the sexy times better, prefer it actually, but it's just silly by now. As someone said already in FM Kindle fucked his mom at least twice within as many pages as this has.

Just stick the dog cock into the damned bird already.
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Anonymous 2017/07/20 07:48:56 No.1293518
>>1292926
to each their own. birds can be very pretty so the attractiveness is up to personal taste but understandable. As for fucking a football, some could find that sort of concept hot since a feral bird would pretty much be a living fleshlight. Nothing but fucking like they're a toy which can be kind of hot.
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Anonymous 2017/07/20 22:40:14 No.1293821
pagé? its out on patreon.
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Anonymous 2017/07/20 23:48:46 No.1293853
>>1293821

I can post it.. I don't think you guys are gonna like it..
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 00:08:17 No.1293867
sure
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 00:48:02 No.1293906
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66

enjoy...?
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Anonthemouse 2017/07/21 00:49:43 No.1293907
>>1293853

Let me guess.. It ends?
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 01:21:30 No.1293949
>TFW I'm only following this for the wolf character.
>TFW I see no appeal in feral birds.
>TFW I think cloacas are pretty gross

Feels bad, man.
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 04:10:15 No.1293990
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>>1293949
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 07:42:51 No.1294037
>>1293949
Not hating birb pussy but only waiting for doggy cock for me.
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 08:45:26 No.1294049
This artist is killing us. What's it like on her Patreon though? I want details of how badly she's getting reamed by her patrons.
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Anonymous 2017/07/21 10:54:44 No.1294096
Please just fucking let this end already so the artist can move onto something good that doesn't take a year and a half to get near the actual sex.
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Anonymous 2017/07/22 01:27:36 No.1294934
Well... I VOTED FOR LESBIAN DRAGON ACTION 1 YEAR AGO.. it's not my fault...
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Anonymous 2017/07/22 02:18:05 No.1294954
I almost feel the people in this thread have sex (if they ever have it) that lasts roughly 3 minutes.
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Anonymous 2017/07/22 11:12:19 No.1295205
Get where you're coming from (pun intended), but lots of people care more about the destination here and those that do care about the journey don't want to hear about every fucking rock and tree along the way.
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SirMcFluffy 2017/07/22 11:36:55 No.1295208
>>1294954
It's not that, taking so long is normal during sex, but having 20 pages of fingering in a comic is just stretching it to milk money out of Patreon.

A few pages of it is okay, even more pages than normal since Sefeiren likes to take things slowly, but this is too much.
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Anonymous 2017/07/22 18:17:52 No.1295314
>>1294934
i voted for this because it was a vote against those fucking gross ass red and black fire sparkle dogs that was in the lead against this one. Although honestly i would have preferred the foo dogs with the eastern dragon.
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Anonymous 2017/07/23 01:31:23 No.1295539
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>>1295208
As long as it doesn't end up being as padded and long-winded as that Better Late Than Never Kung-Fu Panda comic, I won't complain.
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Anonymous 2017/07/23 13:14:33 No.1295743
>>1295539

My major complaint was the constant bait-and-switch 'there will be porn now LOLNOPE' happening every ten pages like fucking clockwork. They'd get ramped up to fuck, and then get cockblocked, over and over and over and over.

But at least that had a glorious payoff of what was essentially back-to-back orgies with all of the blueballed comic characters.

That comic accomplished more in five pages than this is doing in twenty.
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Anonymous 2017/07/24 02:21:42 No.1295950
I looked on yiff.party and when someone asked how many pages are left, Sef said an estimate of around 50.

So we aren't even done yet.

Edited at 2017/07/24 02:22:57
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Anonymous 2017/07/27 20:38:48 No.1297950
NEXT PAGE
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Anonymous 2017/07/27 21:21:20 No.1297973
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Anonymous 2017/07/27 21:25:19 No.1297976
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Anonymous 2017/07/27 22:23:30 No.1298000
I want to die
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Anonymous 2017/07/27 22:55:57 No.1298015
Female birds do not produce an internal lubricant, so I am forced to deduce that she just shit all over his finger.
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Anonymous 2017/07/28 01:46:03 No.1298114
>>1298000

Me first, please.
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Anonymous 2017/07/28 04:13:45 No.1298155
another 200 pages and they will have sex... *shaking head in sorrow*
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Anonymous 2017/07/28 11:24:54 No.1298286
>>1298155
Impossible, it took 68 pages to do and finish a small fingering scene that end up to nothing, not even attempting to give any proper semblance of a story that is anything else of

-Bird want wolf dick
-Worf want bird hole, but in denial
-Bird talk to wolf about affection, express it asking for dick
-Wolf finger bird till climax

All of this could have been done in 20 pages or so, and if the peace will continue as is, then it will be at the very least another 500 pages, because then next 100 will be them getting to sleep and she or him having a dream of stuffed burds

Of course the dream will be interrupted going for a piss/drink

Then next 100 will be awkward breakfast, lots of bottled up emotion and preparing for work

Other next 100 will be either wolf or burd at work being frustrated for dream and maybe speaking with colleague about sex or love or whatever

Then page from 301 to 400 will be returning home after a tiring monotonous job because such is wolf/bird life, maybe meet old flame or interested possible partner and talk + rejection

Last 100 pages will be, possibly sucking off wolf dick by burd, i know it's difficult due to beak but then again she can speak perfectly fine, and drink from cup without issue, so sucking off dick shouldn't be an issue

Then and only at that point, when all the planet of the solar system finally align and the cosmic energy coming from another distant star with xenomorph praying the daedric prince of debauchery will reach their planet

Stuffing burd will finally happen, then knot is too big and have to delay another 100 pages for medical attention of stretched bird hole

So much fun
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Anonymous 2017/07/30 04:35:38 No.1299136
>>1298286
lol, funny stuff.

Really though everyone relax. Sif knows its gone on long enough, I guarantee they are indeed about to pork as the sun rises and shines upon them majestically. And if Im wrong then well....just yikes.
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Anonymous 2017/07/31 01:21:49 No.1299574
>>1299136

I mean, there's about two possible ways that surprise is going to go.

She notices that he's got a big bulge down there now and wants to do something about it.

Or

She realizes what exactly happened, freaks out and we get an undetermined number of BUT THIS IS WRONG pages as we slowly, ever slowly, spiral towards some sort of an actual resolution.

I can honestly see it going either way at this point.
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Anonymous 2017/08/01 04:07:22 No.1300114
Told ya another year before birb get fucked
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Anonymous 2017/08/03 22:22:01 No.1301529
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>>1300114
that seems to be the case
(p69)
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Anonymous 2017/08/03 22:44:46 No.1301538
At this point the only two good things to come of this comic where that bonus pinup of that messenger birb guy completely frosted and the "hail hydra" edit. This pace is exhaustively slow.
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Anonymous 2017/08/03 23:17:39 No.1301545
JUST
FUCK
BIRB
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 00:37:21 No.1301569
>>1301529

Aaaand it's the no sex option. It's honestly so weird. Sefeiren obviously has no real qualms about drawing porn. She's drawn a fuckton of it, and he's been knuckle-deep in bird cunt for literally dozens of pages now. And yet, she just doesn't want to go for the actual thing.

I guess I can see some possible. First one being the cynical one, that she's just trying to draw it out for as long as possible to get money out of it. Which doesn't really convince me, since she's still drawing pages and delivering content.

The second possibility, I guess, is that she believes it's intresting to develop this slowly and that she has some sort of an actually intresting story going on. Which is pretty silly, considering it's all framed as a justification for porn, and neither of the characters is actually intresting or well developed at all. They're cardboard cutouts there to facilitate a porn story.

Devon being the kind of cute and mostly innocent, quietly mature guy who fingerbangs someone for literally a whole night and has no desire to go further until it's the perfect time, and Addison being the bird who wants to fuck that, spiced by Whoah watch out, she's got claws.

Devon has demonstrated no personality other than the steady, nice dependable guy, and Addison literally revolves around him. There is no personality here to get invested in. Nothing to hang actual developments on. It's like watching Sefeiren try to make a porn story about two pieces of toast somehow developed. It's not going to get more intresting the longer you drag it out, everyone with a toast fetish just wants to see the buttery payoff, so to speak.

I'm honestly ashamed I spent this long thinking about it.
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 01:20:06 No.1301583
>>1301529

"You almost sliced my neck open. That was a thrill."
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 03:06:04 No.1301620
Juussst wait for ittt. I guarantee he's gonna throw her on the bed and go for it. Chill guys, chill. And If I'm wrong again then we're still at yikes.

I hate waiting too, but I actually like the development. You just have to remember that if this was a printed comic book, reading up until the sex wouldn't be a problem because its all there for you to read now. You guys need to realize that art takes time.
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 05:44:59 No.1301682
>>1301569
Y..You...You just saw porn. You literally just saw pages of porn. Was it dick in Vag, no, but you just literally saw finger fucking porn for pages!
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 06:45:48 No.1301692
I hope she loses patreon followers over this shit. I hope she gets down to posting one page a month and has to cancel the project entirely.

Fuck this is probably the worst furry comic I have ever read. This is worse than that kung fu panda crap. This is worse than the ash-chu palcomix comic.

The artwork is nice, but literally everything else, from the pacing, to the characters, to the content, is just fucking pathetic.

The Kindle comic was great.

I can only assume she sat down and thought to herself 'so, what did I do right with that comic? I'll make SURE to fuck it up entirely this time!'

And the fact that she's going to drag this bullshit on for another fucking year is just the gooey diarrhea icing on the shit sandwich that is this comic.
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-_- Anon 2017/08/04 08:36:53 No.1301755
70 pages of fuckery and still nothing worth fapping over? who in the fuck would pay for this garbage? why does seifuckhead have any patrons at all?
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 12:37:15 No.1301819
>>1301682

Yes. We saw finger fucking porn for 20 pages. 20 pagest straight, multiple months in real time, going nowhere, dragging out endlessly, portrayed in a very monotonous way.

Yay.
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 12:37:30 No.1301820
Well, you're not paying for it at all you mooch, so stop fucking complaining.
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Anonymous 2017/08/04 12:44:09 No.1301821
>>1301755

Furries have very low standards and are willing to pay a lot for very little.

In case it's not clear for the more annoyed among us, people in the Patreon comments are still happily along for the ride and more or less feeling like they're getting their money's worth, so it's unlikely she's actually suffering any sort of financial blowback or criticism over it.

So I guess she's doing it because she can and nobody of actual consequence minds.
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FML ANONFOX 2017/08/04 23:38:18 No.1302027
Im gonna off myself if this doesnt progess within the month. thats a promise
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Anonymous 2017/08/05 00:23:30 No.1302036
>>1302027
Here's hoping for lack of progression. Make America Great Again.
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Anonymous 2017/08/06 07:34:06 No.1302698
>>1301692
Go look at Servents of the Serpant
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Anonymous 2017/08/07 01:11:50 No.1302996
This is another great example of why patreon is a horrible way to pay for a service or product if you actually want it with in a finite amount of time and with a predictable amount of quality. With patreon you are essentially just subscribing to someone dicking around. It's like donating money to Kanye for his "ideas", who knows what the fuck you'll end up with. If you want to pay for a comic, save up some money and contract an artist to make one.
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Anonymous 2017/08/08 04:08:15 No.1303400
>>1301529
boom!
ear healed.
burd hole is magic
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 00:51:41 No.1304691
NEXT PAGE
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 01:15:53 No.1304697
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 01:23:45 No.1304703
>>1304697

I really hope he has raging morning wood and Addy takes advantage...
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 01:32:52 No.1304708
Does he even really like her? He never said it.
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 19:10:44 No.1305139
>>1301692
The pace is literally why I stopped being a patron. I subscribed to her page to see her progress in the comic, saw that was absolutely none (despite her patreon being 10+ pages ahead of what she posts on FA) and immediately unsubscribed.

That was a good 6 months ago, and the story has barely progressed since then.

Edited at 2017/08/11 19:11:20
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Anonymous 2017/08/11 22:17:05 No.1305289
>>1304697
I fucking told you it would end up this way, didn't i?
>>1298286

Now unto the dream sequence for another 100 pages....
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Anonymous 2017/08/12 00:06:09 No.1305337
Im fucking telling you just wait. The sun in gonna shine on them abs and Addy is gonna hop on. Watch.
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Anonymous 2017/08/12 01:31:57 No.1305362
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If this next one doesn't have Devon's throbbing wolf cock, we're gonna have a real problem here.
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Anonymous 2017/08/17 21:14:12 No.1308211
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>>1305362
uh well I have some bad news for you
(p71)
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Anonymous 2017/08/17 21:33:40 No.1308221
Umm...he just got done fingering, and devouring your pussy/cloaca, I don't think he'll mind at all.
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Anonymous 2017/08/17 23:21:31 No.1308264
maybe he's hesitant because he's got a tiny dick.

maybe that works out for the better because he can fit in the comparatively tiny bird.

as unlikely as it is, if that's sef's reason for dragging this out for so fucking long im going to shit out my skull.
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Anonymous 2017/08/18 12:36:35 No.1308544
Who want's to bet he has 0 interest in fucking the bird?
Would be a hell of a plot twist, and a lot of very angry blue balled furries.
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Anonymous 2017/08/18 21:43:08 No.1308685
>>1308264

Sefeiren has drawn him multiple times with his dick out, and it's rather average-sized, so likely not.

The actual, boring reason is likely that he's a boring character who has absolutely no desires and is all nice and kind and patient. Which is kind of a problem when Sefeiren's trying to draw this whole thing out to tell some sort of a story.
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Anonymous 2017/08/21 01:52:59 No.1309609
Actually funny.
"Average sized".

In all honesty. I respect sexual desires or fantasies. But what often there is considered average size in pictures and what not is not only completely oversized compared to what it would be like irl.. but also way too big what a mere human can pack.

But yeah i get it. Sometimes it is compensation, sometimes it is just a fantasy. To me reasonable sizes are more appealing on a girl than breasts as big as their entire body. Not saying this to piss someone off, even if it will, but if people would go real on their sonas, they would not pack much. Horses are the prime example. There it is just the stallion mentality that they have to pack dicks as long as their legs. If they would go real, it would be not much longer than any other weener.

But yeah... in that case it is 95% compensation and 5% herms where everything has to be over the top.

I respect sexual desires and fantasies.
But i still will have my laugh about them, if i know compensation is at hand. :P
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Silassaq Patrick 2017/08/21 04:45:52 No.1309665
Jeg er syge
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SirMcFluffy 2017/08/22 09:10:44 No.1310427
>>1309609
What if I actually have a big dick and want my sona to represent myself?

Like, I don't have a fursona, and I don't even think I'm above average, but saying that it's either compensation or a fantasy doesn't seem realistic either.

There are big dicks out there.
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Anonymous 2017/08/22 09:58:40 No.1310440
True. And i could say nothing against those. And won't if they are matching.
I am mostly speaking about those monster dongs. Average size is 16-18 cm. Everything above is considered big already.
But i am less speaking of the real size as of a fitting size.
If you have a feral dragon for example it isn't off to have a bigger dong. If you have a normal canine... well there often is this stallion mentality again.
Don't even start on how it would hurt a female in actuallity as.. we all know most furs are either bi or gay with tendency to be together with another male. Hetero is more rare, so that isn't a real issue. Something tho most don't know either.

So tl;dr
If the size fits the sonas size i can't say anything. If it is considered oversized... i just will have my laugh about it.
If you pack a monster dong irl.. well i couldn't know.

But if that is such an issue. Be realistic and people like me won't be an issue i guess? That is. If i am an issue to such people. But why would they care?

Edited at 2017/08/22 10:01:46
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Anonymous 2017/08/22 19:49:35 No.1310632
>>1310440
>artist is a woman
>draws idealized body features
>for porn
>it's not her fursona, it's one of many characters she draws
>for money
>in a porn comic
>that's compensation

>expects realistic proportions in porn, where people often desire idealized, exaggerated features, thinks artists do it to compensate and accuses a woman of compensating for small penis

Mmh. Yes, quite.
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Anonymous 2017/08/22 21:04:46 No.1310673
As said before. I know people eventually get pissed on about it. Opinions are disliked and eventually will rustle someones jimmies.

If you would have used your gray matter you would have noticed that i talk about it in general. Not specifically about Sefeirens art. But do not worry.
You did nothing wrong. You did exactly what i expect from most. ;)
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Anonymous 2017/08/23 09:20:44 No.1310986
>>1310673
...
Faf, is that you?
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Anonymous 2017/08/24 01:48:47 No.1311203
What? Don't you know? I am actually Crowchild!
The one and only.
Trying to bring you the most high quality furry porn you could ever get. Worship me and my first class animation skills!
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Anonymous 2017/08/24 03:17:05 No.1311226
>>1311203
your chromosome count seems to be higher than normal. is that trisomy 21 i detect?
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Anonymous 2017/08/24 10:39:45 No.1311384
>>1311203

Hoo boy, there's some issues here. Between the weirdly obsessive, incoherent rambling about furry penises, the projections about compensation, the spergy random jab at a totally unrelated artist for totally unrelated reasons, the terrible articulation, and just the general "Huhuhu you called out my flimsy bullshit but that was actually a trap :^)" air of really undeserved smugness, I'm not even really sure what you should work on.

Maybe just try to be a little bit less of all that, and more of, well, something that doesn't look like a high-functioning autist with a penis obsession.
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Anonymous 2017/08/24 21:10:16 No.1311522
>>1311203

honestly the cring is fucking real
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 01:11:20 No.1311607
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I don't know what's going on in here but you guys seem to be having fun (???)

(p72)
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 01:56:27 No.1311627
>>1311607

The fuck is even going on in this page. Is he supposed to be sulky or something? I can't really intepret what the page is trying to convey here. They get into the bed and it's all awkward, despite the fact it wasn't a moment ago?

The mood is swinging around randomly as hell now.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 03:35:57 No.1311689
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>>1311607
Can't even give us a little sheath? So glad I haven't been paying for this.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 04:38:15 No.1311704
Maybe all i am trying to say is.
Stop taking yourself too serious. Accept opinions of others. And don't get your panties creamed if it differs from yours.
Again. I was speaking in general. I like Sefeirens art itself.

As for the other stuff. If you go all Goerge R.R. Martin like into obsession with dicks... it is your thing. Just don't get upset if someone isn't.
And i haven't even said it only about your likes. Even the stuff i like has a line which is stepped over plenty of times.

I like characters who look natural. Not oversexualized. Not cringy. Not edgy.

There are plenty enough edgelords out there giving those haters plenty of reason to hate on furries again. Even if people like me don't care about it. Not a furry. But also have respect for everyone.

No i love characters who look decent. Not oversexualized. Not edgy. Not scrublord like. Just like you could see them existing in this world.

Everything else... is boring. Because it is... 08/15.
Big breasts are nice. No doubt. But everyone thinks that. I like it when someone thinks outside the box.

Don't like that opinion. Good on you. But i guess we both will have to live with that.
The question would be... who is better at it?

Or is your pride scratched if someone is laughing about it, because he doesn't take things so serious and can't fap to that no more? Oo
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 06:45:17 No.1311746
I would give all of my money for the next page to just read 'the end'.
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Anony 2017/08/25 06:51:39 No.1311747
>>1311607

Am I the only one to notice the "Plip"? What it means that tomorrow will be raining, and they'll have to remain indoors. So either awkward conversations or commence the boning!
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 12:02:55 No.1311839
>>1311704

I tried to write a post and maybe poke some fun at this guy, but there's honestly just way too many things here to choose from.

I kinda love this crazy guy's crazy rambling now. I wanna see more of this.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 12:58:50 No.1311847
Can you all please chill out? Masturbate or don't. What else is there?
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Trepta 2017/08/25 14:31:52 No.1311878
I wish Sefairen focused more on No Hyenas comic, cuz it seems this one is going nowhere, and No Hyenas still has a good potential.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 15:21:25 No.1311895
>>1311878
It ends on a cliff hanger from what I heard, so technically it's already 'done'.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 17:30:42 No.1311935
If this comic ends next page without any penetration I will riot
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 17:46:31 No.1311939
>>1311935

Everyone in the Patreon comments is all "awww this is so cute and great", so I bet Sefeiren could EASILY draw it out for at least two whole year-long (longer, actually) comics.
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Anonymous 2017/08/25 18:12:24 No.1311953
FUCK YOUR ATMOSPHERIC LIGHTING

SHOW ME WOLF COCK
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8 hours of bird minge Anonymous 2017/08/26 00:39:16 No.1312104
he got two fingers deep in her nunny and then it took him literally an entire night to make her cum. I'd go to bed in a mood as well
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Anonymous 2017/08/26 18:14:20 No.1312446
straight people are disgusting. It is a legit bird, next time some bifag sends me a link, I'm not clicking.
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Anonymous 2017/08/28 02:11:00 No.1312996
You people and your blue balls are hilarious.
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Anonymous 2017/08/28 21:17:32 No.1313314
>>1311953

This wolf wouldn't get his dick out for harambe if you promised him free succ for life
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Anonymous 2017/08/30 12:03:29 No.1314025
Children, the sex will arrive when it arrives. But in the meantime, stop your whining
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Anonymous 2017/08/31 21:13:18 No.1314760
Rain drops hitting your window make the same sound as a giant bird's sloppy fingered cloaca spitting out cum juices. Remember this the next time you're staring out the window while it's raining.
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 02:52:30 No.1314915
>>1314760

Oh no, you've ruined rain forever!
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 02:56:21 No.1314916
page is out!
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 03:02:31 No.1314917
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73
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 03:09:33 No.1314919
welp.
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 03:19:21 No.1314926
"The end"
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 03:22:27 No.1314929
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I can't believe she's done this.
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 04:43:51 No.1314970
i think i see where this is going.... and i think were all gonna like this. especialy devon
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 05:16:40 No.1314979
>>1314970

I hope you're right, whatever it is you're thinking. Because if it ends anywhere close to here I'll be disappointed. And I'm a Patreon supporter so I'm allowed to whine, ha.

Edited at 2017/09/01 05:18:28
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 07:28:09 No.1315021
Half year, 73 pages to finger bird hole. That's a new meaning of a "porn" word.
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 08:57:48 No.1315047
Got that "he's just telling her what she wants to hear" Vibe.
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What's for breakfast? Big Hyena 2017/09/01 11:56:18 No.1315090
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ADDY is in for a big surprise, here at SpaceX our top scientists have been working around the clock to come up with an adiquite probability scinereo for the next few pages, and I'll tell you this , after a long night of fingereing shit cunt, and receiving physical and scarring damage to the face, Devon will wake up early, prepare some side dishes, and toss that bird in the oven, we predict chicken and waffles in the next few pages.
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Anonymous 2017/09/01 20:00:09 No.1315232
>>1315047

Pretty much. Delayed reactions, doesn't really seem eager at all.

70% sure this means that now that the excitement died down he's convinced things went in the wrong direction/too fast/otherwise ruined their friendship somehow, and is all distant from her for the next day, necessitating a long series of WORDS WORDS WORDS where the turkey convinces him that it's ok and then they maybe fuck. Or possibly it's "But I'm not actually good enough for her", but hesitation and drama in any case.

15% it's just random badly communicated tiredness and everything's all peachy the next day, because random mood swings seem to be the name of the game now (considering how cool he was with taking the initiative before, only to be really hesitant now).

15% It's Sefeiren ACTUALLY going full troll with "This was a mistake, let's go back to being just friends" and that being that.

Honestly, the last one would be kind of awesome. Let's just go all the way to fucking nothing at this point.
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ND 2017/09/02 12:57:33 No.1315567
I enjoy supporting TailsHigh far more as this one.
This comic is kinda dull, also I finger my girl to an orgasm and I don't any frisky myself!? Is he neutered?
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Anonymous 2017/09/03 01:12:05 No.1315877
>>1315567
I blame feminism.
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Anonymous 2017/09/03 07:38:12 No.1315972
>>1315232
The Christmas pic from last year had Evons dick hard and aimed at a ribboned up Addy. So there's gotta be bird fucking eventually.

Righ?
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Anonymous 2017/09/04 10:00:42 No.1316479
https://graphtreon.com/creator/FriskyFerals

Fucking lol.

Bleeding patreon subs because this comic is fucking shit and people are stopping wanting to support it.
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Anonymous 2017/09/04 10:04:31 No.1316481
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The latest page to contribute to the worst furry comic made in recent memory.
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Anonymous 2017/09/04 10:32:35 No.1316485
>>1316479
I wish that were true, though there does seem to be a recent trend for a slight decline, it dropping like that is normal. These retards just eat this shit up.
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Anonymous 2017/09/05 23:02:28 No.1317416
Just watch out. Soon Sefeiren posts a comment on last page saying something is missing.

Page updated. Forgot to write The End at the page end.

People would be furious.
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Anonymous 2017/09/07 16:45:53 No.1318358
new page it seems.
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Anonymous 2017/09/07 21:13:54 No.1318414
File: NHNF074_u18chan.jpg - (621.88kb, 936x1200, NHNF 074.jpg)
weekly lore update
(p74)
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Anonymous 2017/09/07 23:23:23 No.1318446
Devon was a ghost all along
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Anonymous 2017/09/08 04:45:33 No.1318543
FFS JUST TELL US WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT MUTTS ALREADY
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Anonymous 2017/09/08 04:47:41 No.1318546
I've been wondering in a lot of topics here, and I can say one thing: You guys in the majority, are extremelly unhappy with ANYTHING that you get here for free. I don't understand, but I think you guys should get a job and don't know, get a life either. ¬¬
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Anonthemouse 2017/09/08 10:10:20 No.1318637
>>1318546
Well with no mods or a scoring system, plus everyone being anonymous, that stuff tends to happen.

Although I have to say that it's often true what's said about it. This comic is terrible especially compared to the previous free comic. And then there's Jason's comic...
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Anonymous 2017/09/08 22:47:47 No.1318840
This is a weeks worth of work for shit that people are paying for
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Anonymous 2017/09/09 08:52:05 No.1319151
Okay, this is fucking ridiculous. I've held off from commenting about how this comic is a waste of time, but this latest page is just waking up... Ok, sure, this would work if there was an intense and quick buildup, but this page is unnecessary to break up the next page (probably devon opening an eye) from the last.

This artist is intentionally wasting your time and money. If you are a current patreon. I advize you send the artist your thoughts or stop supporting completely.

Make all the excuses you want. This comic is an actual waste of time. There are so many other comics to support who wont waste your time or money.

Edit: in response to people compaining that this is free and I should be greatful. Don't be so naive. If this comic made any actual effort it, I would 100% support the artist, but as of so far, this artist is conveying to me that he/she only wants to elongate the project time by wasting time on this comic with pointless panels. Not just pointless, buy meaningless, and completely unnecessary to what a comic is, a story.

Either the artist is very bad at story telling, needs a writer, or isn't creative enoug to finishh this story.

I've seen lower quality comics make my jaw drop with a good story. In fact, I'll go buy his next page for him.

Edited at 2017/09/09 09:06:56
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Anonymous 2017/09/09 14:52:15 No.1319204
>>1319151
Cool story bro, but honestly I just think it's you. It's not meeting your expectations because you wanted porn and instead you're getting a story that happens to have porn in it.
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Anonymous 2017/09/09 17:13:07 No.1319284
>>1319204

And yet the ratio of level-headed people who think this comic is a piece of shit and is being dragged out for jewy reasons outnumber you fucking idiots white-knighting this retarded project.

I'd call this thing a dumpster fire but that implies that something is actively happening. This comic is more like a really runny bird shit slowly drooling down the length of a slanted roof. That's honestly the only thing I can think of that is as bland, boring, and fucking painfully slow as this drawn-out crap.
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Anonymous 2017/09/09 22:36:37 No.1319364
>>1319204

The story is boring and the characters are unintresting though. Sefeiren hasn't put any effort into any part of it. Devon and Allison have zero personality and the whole comic is built to facilitate fucking, and yet it doesn't. The only drama and tension, the only conflict we are presented, right from the beginning, is that the bird wants the doggy D, but is hesitant to ask for the doggy D. It's a cheesy, done-to-death porn setup only tolerated because porn doesn't need good stories. If she actually wanted to do a story comic and be appreciated for it, she'd have to work a HELL of a lot harder than this cliched tripe.

There are story heavy comics with porn that are actually good. Some of them might even be furry comics. This comic doesn't know what it wants to be and Sefeiren either doesn't want to put in the effort or just isn't a very good writer.

Considering her past works, which are as far as we know furry porn with "muh OC" level plots, as well as the fans who keep shoveling money into this boring thing, it's probably both.
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Anonymous 2017/09/09 23:41:10 No.1319391
We could've gotten a hot incest comic with those two temple guardians, but this shit got in. Not only did I not give a shit from the very beginning, but it just keeps going, and going..
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Anonymous 2017/09/10 05:21:10 No.1319495
>>1319391
I'm curious, what temple guardians?
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Anonymous 2017/09/10 07:19:53 No.1319542
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>>1319391
Its hard for me to say that I'm glad it didn't win at this point. I hate the designs cause they're just these dumb lookin edgy fire dogs with the brother being pretty much a dumb black/red oc, but honestly at this point I feel like that would have been the better option, probably would have gotten to the sex a lot sooner and not any of this flat as paper romance.

>>1319495
these ones, i voted against it cause ow the edge, but honestly I think i'd rather have the edge if it means having the porn over this shit.
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Anonymous 2017/09/13 07:18:57 No.1320760
If the next page isn't at least a little bit interesting, I'll stop giving her my monthly dollar.
I really like her art and all but really she's just messing with us at this point. And she says she has to pays her bills etc... Bitch please, I live with half or what you get for this shit a month lol
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Anonymous 2017/09/14 23:29:06 No.1321330
new page?
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Anonymous 2017/09/14 23:46:44 No.1321332
I'm not disappointed in this comic. Even if I paid for this, it's just a comic. But I am disappointed in everyone's attitude here. You shouldn't increase negativity in this world just because you don't get what you expect. Say you pay for a burger from a restaurant and you don't like it. You don't complain about how it should be better: you go to another restaurant. If one is going to say anything: it should be constructive, compassionate, mindful advice on how to improve their product.

If you know anything about art: you know that art criticism is valuable and helps people learn. But making fun of other people does not, it's just an excuse to let yourself be mean to others.

If you're going to claim it's a scam or something: that should also be carried out in a calm and organized way to minimize emotional distress of all involved. It is our task as human beings to not let the negativity of others turn us into negative people ourselves. We must endeavor to turn a negative into a positive, to make things better in the right way, to make up for the bad things in this world.

Let's all choose to grow up a bit and make this site a bit more positive.

I know most people will just ignore this post. But you have to realize that if you keep adding negativity and judgement: you're making this site a negative place for everyone. And also, you're just going to add to the stress levels of the artist, which will prevent them from finishing it sooner.

And obviously: if you don't like it, stop talking about it. Otherwise you're letting yourself give into to healthy patterns of gossip and information addiction.

Edited at 2017/09/15 00:01:39
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 00:36:00 No.1321343
>>1321332

I don't mind buildup, and the start showed a promising premise of a sort...

The problem I'm having is that there is fine line between "Drawing the comic out" and "beating a plotpoint to death". Foreplay is hot in the right portrayal, this is not. This is needlessly drawing out the 'action' simply to milk this comic for more money in my eyes.

we had 38 pages of buildup in a comic 74 pages long thusfar, not including several before Devon actually get hands-on if we include that 'daydream' scene w/ the sex-toy earlier on which would probably put us at just over half of this comic building up to actual 'Penis in vagina' (for want of a better term given its a bird, Penis in Cloaca? iunno)

That isn't just exposition/teasing, that is straight up padding so heavy even Gridiron football and hockey players are staring in awe. I like Seiferin's other work, the problem is its pretty damn clear that she draws these out to get the most money she can for the least amount of creative work.

Family Matters had a tasteful amount of buildup. Sure it took a while to get to the interesting parts but we had plenty of exposition on the characters to figure out the relationship between mother/son, still got plenty of emotions going on.....There is nothing of the sort here besides awkwardness.

The folks here are upset because we've seen better work, know she can do better, but these last few comics (to include "No Hyenas" just feel like cash-grabs. THAT is why people are bitter.

I admit, negativity in the world shouldn't be encouraged, but its hard not to be angry when you're paying someone and just hoping for their product to actually see improvement only to be repeatedly disappointed that your money fueled that tripe.

Edited at 2017/09/15 00:39:30
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 00:46:23 No.1321344
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guess we're in for a long ride :(

(p75)
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 03:56:43 No.1321411
It's basically the same scene shot from four different angles. I'm sure the patron supporters are praising her for showing the "ranges of emotion a character feels from this scene" so well.
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 07:08:31 No.1321456
>>1321411

And thats what annoys me. This page does absolutely fuck all to move the narrative forward. It exists solely to line the artist's pockets because "I made a page, now pay me"
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 16:26:21 No.1321564
So when are we going to stuff the birb
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Anonymous 2017/09/15 17:12:44 No.1321586
>>1321332

as soon as I saw a food analogy I disregarded the rest of your post my man
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Anonymous 2017/09/16 02:27:22 No.1321732
>>1321564
At this rate next year, probably
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Libra 2017/09/16 06:47:05 No.1321809
She is gonna walk or fly in the kitchn and see him in nothing but an apern
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Anonymous 2017/09/17 06:14:32 No.1322194
So this comic is the Rube Goldberg version of porn? Don't get me wrong, the artwork is great but reading it for the porn is like a day at the DMV. Perhaps their next endeavor could be about sloths having sex as that'd at least explain why its taking so long to get to the good stuff.
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 02:00:06 No.1323818
Who the fuck is ready for an entire page of just Addy making the bed.
Followed up by a page of her hopping/flying through the house.
Then a page of her looking at Devon doing yard or house work.
Then a page of her walking up to him.
Then a page of her going to her job.
Then like 20 pages showing the same fucking scene again and again of her at her day job of devilry.
Then a page of her watching Devon bathe when she gets home.
Then a page of her trying to ask to get into the tub.
Then finally a page of them getting ready for penetration.
Then a page that says I've milked this for all it's worth so I'm just gonna end here and start a new project to make loads of furry money.
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 02:21:05 No.1323824
I think I will be more like 3 pages of "where are you why did you leave" followed by 4 pages of awkward emotional stuff with no meaning at all
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 02:44:27 No.1323830
new page is out
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 03:47:27 No.1323868
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>>1323824
winner here

p76
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 04:02:11 No.1323877
>>1323868

So it's gonna be the dog being all "oh no I'm not worthy and also this could be trouble" nice guy bullshit, and then the bird being "no but I want the D" and then they fuck.

Except it's entirely possible they still won't fuck.

(as a sidenote, has the premise of "forbidden love in a world where ferals and anthros are not allowed to have relations" been actually communicated at ANY point in the actual comic? I seem to recall it being in some description of this thing, and yet there's been absolutely zero mention of it in the comic itself IIRC)
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 04:03:44 No.1323878
Please sir, put your cock in the bird. Sir pleez.
Plz smash
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Anonymous 2017/09/22 06:53:59 No.1323957
That's like... What four dramatic pauses in a row?
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Anonymous 2017/09/23 00:27:49 No.1324358
>>1323868
And now he's depressed.

Because he cunnilied/rimmed his talking mascot feral birb.
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Anonymous 2017/09/23 01:24:09 No.1324379
>>1323877

If I were the artist I head all this bitching about how I was telling MY story, I'd probably do the exact opposite of what people would want me to do just out of spite. But it's a good thing I'm not an artist.
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Anonymous 2017/09/23 03:48:51 No.1324430
>>1324379

But anon, Sefeiren totally IS doing the opposite of what people want.
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Anonymous 2017/09/23 07:38:09 No.1324505
>>1324379
>Spite
Against your target audience?
Hmm...
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Anonymous 2017/09/24 00:54:05 No.1324752
>>1324379
people probably wouldnt have voted for this if everyone knew that it was going to be 70+ pages of one sided thirst and awkward forced anti-romance instead of a quick 20 ~ 40 page comic that gets to the actual porn much sooner. Also its a good thing you're not an artist if a little bit of bitching about the pace of a comic is enough for you to want to purposely fuck everyone over. You might want a dedicated fan base before you pull a kayla na. That said, the complaints are pretty justified. Comic is over 70 pages now and well over a year old and so far we've only got a masturbation scene and less than half of a sex scene.
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Anonymous 2017/09/24 05:58:14 No.1324872
What if the next page is him sitting there with a hardon and she sits her cloaca right on it? From 0 to 60 in a millisecond!

Well that's what I'd like to happen. It'll be 50 more pages of angles and totally deep meaningful character interaction! That or he shot himself I dunno.
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Anonymous 2017/09/28 16:51:01 No.1326202
File: Hedidloanmoneytothegovermentanditwas_10214ffed4c6c0c104dce34a55cf7ed2_u18chan.png - (5.72kb, 486x576, He+did+loan+money+to+the+goverment+and+it+was+_10214ffed4c6c0c104dce34a55cf7ed2.png)
So I purposefully stopped checking this shit for like three months or so, I go in today thinking I'm gonna finally get some bird-stuffing, and uh... this is the direction the comic went in? Color me disappointed. I don't care enough to be pissed off by it or anything like that, but it sure is fucking disappointing. Pick related: Author's face when making this comic and milking tons of cash from horny furfags.
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Anonymous 2017/09/29 04:08:34 No.1326399
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77
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Anonymous 2017/09/29 04:08:50 No.1326400
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78
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Anonymous 2017/09/29 06:14:18 No.1326479
Bird a cute but the entirety of page 78 could have been condensed into one fucking panel.
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Anonymous 2017/09/29 12:24:31 No.1326525
The End
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the end Anonymous 2017/09/29 15:10:00 No.1326595
File: devonaddyend_u18chan.jpg - (53.21kb, 864x864, devonaddyend.jpg)
Here guys
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ummmmmmm YES 2017/09/29 20:57:32 No.1326835
>>1326595

You win the furrynet.
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Anonymous 2017/09/29 22:42:35 No.1326877
>>1326595
No, you did it wrong. It would never have gotten that far in one page. that would have at least been 4 pages for that much action.
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Anonymous 2017/09/30 14:10:27 No.1327158
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(521.84kb, 861x913)
I made a quick edit to make it on par with the masterpiece of a tale that Sefeiren is weaving.
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Dur 2017/09/30 17:43:15 No.1327288
"Fast"

Maybe for them, but not for us...
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Anonymous 2017/09/30 20:15:15 No.1327359
>>1327158
You would have had to wait a month between posting each of these to make it more realistic.
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Anonymous 2017/09/30 21:50:12 No.1327385
I don't care if 90% of you are dissatisfied by the amount of dicks and cloacas per page per month that you see. I like this pacing and I like the fact the characters are, for once, not the kind of omnipresent fucking machines you can see in every other comic.

This is actually pretty romantic.
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Anonymous 2017/10/01 00:07:05 No.1327455
>>1327385
There's a difference between having slow pacing and being padded just for the purpose of increasing the page count.

Guess which this comic falls under.
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Anonymous 2017/10/02 00:23:20 No.1327981
As the creator of this.
>>1326595

I really enjoyed this.
>>1327158
That's gold.
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Anonymous 2017/10/02 02:00:45 No.1328022
any predictions for the next page? Try your luck, win some internet!
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Anonymous 2017/10/02 02:32:19 No.1328031
>>1328022

She asks him if he's tired, he says yes. She suggests that they just stay home in bed today. Once they're in bed, she mentions that she didn't return the favor for last night. Wolf gets naked. She licks on his dong a bit (because what else are you going to do with a beak and talons?), then he shoves it in her birdhole for four or five pages and that's that. This will, of course, take six months of weekly releases to complete.
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Derp 2017/10/02 15:46:50 No.1328342
Fuck on the porch...
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Anonymous 2017/10/04 06:15:06 No.1329191
>>1328022
They'll talk about the rain instead of bird sex.
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 01:09:46 No.1330098
new page?
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 01:40:45 No.1330107
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79
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 02:00:07 No.1330116
File: did_u18chan.jpg - (110.67kb, 934x262, did.jpg)
Best content
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 02:24:02 No.1330130
File: IMG_20151225_065814_u18chan.jpg - (53.18kb, 500x376, IMG_20151225_065814.jpg)
....really....
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 03:38:32 No.1330144
COCK
IN
BIRD
PLEASE

I hope the next comics aren't this long. I'm to poor to support so I feel like I got no place to bitch. I can tell you if I were though i'd be quite annoyed.

I JUST WANT THE COCK
TO GO IN
THE BIRD
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 06:29:31 No.1330223
File: free_u18chan.png - (682.38kb, 704x905, free.png)
>>1330130
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Anonymush 2017/10/06 07:45:42 No.1330242
>>1330144

Instructions unclear. Bird and rooster now on fire.
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 16:21:50 No.1330312
I actually feel sorryfor this guy's patreons. They are not getting what they are paying for... Unless they really want drawn out blank pages.
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 19:11:48 No.1330362
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>>1330107
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Anonymous 2017/10/06 21:18:08 No.1330383
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>>1330362
Birb next page:
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Anonymous 2017/10/07 00:56:30 No.1330433
Watching you guy's reply to this is a like a humorous exercise of watching grown men slowly slipping into insanity. Please, never change.
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Anonymous 2017/10/07 02:02:24 No.1330448
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>>1330433
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This thread The big Hyena 2017/10/08 23:42:56 No.1331284
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I have read alot of this thread, I don't know who I am anymore. Each page takes forever and at about the pace of one recession per page, not to mention the wolf is obviously a queer type, I do like the artwork and to be honest I think this thread has a better captive audience than the sappy mccheese storyline.
Also I don't care if they don't fuck.
But if they do and she gets preggers, I'm gonna go on a rampage
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Anonymous 2017/10/09 01:07:41 No.1331312
>>1331284

bird/wolf babies. bolfs? wirds???
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Anony 2017/10/09 23:06:49 No.1331849
>>1331312
http://www.wow-petopia.com/look.php?id=wolfhawk_green
Eh
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Anonymous 2017/10/10 00:31:13 No.1331876
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>>1331312
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Anonymous 2017/10/12 16:38:18 No.1332878
>>1331849
>>1331876

everything is terrible
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Anonymous 2017/10/12 20:15:53 No.1332916
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Sweet Raptor Jesus please let the birb be plowed and knotted amen
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 05:24:26 No.1333056
New page available
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 05:35:38 No.1333061
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80
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 05:40:11 No.1333065
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO SIT ON THE WOLF DICK ALREADY
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 07:22:14 No.1333085
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I think other 20 pages then we got what we want...
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 11:17:45 No.1333150
Addy, sweetie, darling, you're making a simple task so complicated. There was no need to rehearse everything. All you needed to do was camly sit Devon down and tell him how you feel
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 11:19:49 No.1333152
Addy, sweetie, darling, you're making a simple task so complicated. There was no need to rehearse everything. All you needed to do was camly sit Devon down and tell him how you feel

Edited at 2017/10/13 14:28:38
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Anonymous 2017/10/13 17:33:43 No.1333222
It has been three months since we last saw anything explicit and it was a soggy bird hole and some sploog covered creepy looking fingers
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Riley 2017/10/14 00:58:52 No.1333334
Guys. We're all missing the obvious conclusion to this comic.
>Devon, I should have told you how I felt sooner, and then throwing myself at you like that... I'm so sorry I've made a huge mistake, let's just go back to how we were before...

> It's ok Addy, no harm, no fowl!

*Awkward silence for 3 panels and 1 panel of the two laughing as the sun comes up*

END
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 06:46:32 No.1333445
That's a good way for everyone to kill themselves...
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Anonymous 2017/10/16 03:27:53 No.1334273
Seems there's a small discussion going on regarding the pace of this comic. Any thoughts on the reply from FF?
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/25095239/#cid:123627440
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Anonymous 2017/10/16 04:00:36 No.1334281
>>1334273

sanctimonious holier-than-thou handwaving.

'People on our patreon overwhelmingly support what we're doing'.

You don't think that's fucking confirmation bias and sample problems a little fucking bit, ya fuckin' idjit?

People who think the pace of the story is, far from being a 'slow burn' and more akin to a fucking glacier stopped paying for this a long fucking time ago.

Whenever a friend linked me to this comic back around page thirty the only thing I could respond with is 'JUST FUCK ALREADY FOR FUCKS SAKE'.

We're now at page 80 and what fucking difference is there? I mean, fuck me look at page 41 and page 80 side by side. Tell me how much you think has happened between those two pages. A competent storyline would have had a stretch of five pages between those two pages. Maybe even only one or two. Because they went from 'oh mah gawd I can't tell you I want to fuck you' to ACTUAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY, and then right fucking back to 'oh mah gawd I can't tell you I want to fuck you'.

If you want people to stop thinking you're deliberately dragging this shit out as long as you possibly can maybe stop devoting forty pages to literally go full circle with no character development.

>attack people for expressing opinions that the comic with a GLACIER PACE is being drawn out deliberately
>'If you want to say shit like that, go do it somewhere else. We won't tolerate it here. '
>'The vast majority of people, though, in all of our comments sections, and most importantly, on Patreon, disagree with you. We see far more people commenting positively than negatively on any number of the aspects of the comic that you mentioned here'

Maybe go google 'cause and effect' you sanctimonious asshole.

Edited at 2017/10/16 04:01:47
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Anonymous 2017/10/16 15:04:41 No.1334413
There hasn't been any sort of real dialogue for about 50 pages or so. Maybe a few snippets of conversation, but once the sex scene started, there was hardly any real development between the characters.

This isn't a pacing that works with a comic, or it's just implemented poorly. This is something that'll work more in a novel where you can just narrate what is going on instead of having multiple panels of silence and looking at the sky. You can have that all in one or two panels.
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Anonymous 2017/10/17 08:42:53 No.1334804
>>1334413
This sort of pacing not not unworkable or even inherently bad in a comic, it's just that the story for this comic (as much as it exists) is in no way set up to take advantage of the pacing. The pacing currently does not serve the story at all; all it does is add unnecessary length to the comic. If the story in the comic was more competently written and fleshed out it could work. The problem is that whoever is writing this mess (I'm going to guess that it's Sefeiren) is horribly incompetent when it comes to actually delivering a story.

Edited at 2017/10/18 19:40:15
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Anonymous 2017/10/19 04:35:41 No.1335555
File: Yourdailydoseofpropaganda_6310d3_5279367_u18chan.jpg - (61.29kb, 700x454, Your+daily+dose+of+propaganda+_6310d3_5279367.jpg)
does anyone have the new kasper and nika 2 Comic yet?
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 00:06:52 No.1335787
Look, Sefeiren is a great artist. I loved all her other comics, and I'm sure when we get to the good stuff it will be grand, but there is no denying that this comic is moving way too slowly. Even ignoring the lack of any real story and aimless dialogue, there are pages dedicated solely to characters getting up and beginning to move, and pages where the same action is repeated from different angles (like the fingering pages). It's weird, Family Matters was much better paced.
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 01:02:31 No.1335803
ay look a new page
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 01:05:15 No.1335806
File: NHNF081_u18chan.jpg - (810.26kb, 936x1200, NHNF 081.jpg)
81
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 03:23:51 No.1335878
File: IMG_20160628_023552_u18chan.jpg - (42.01kb, 500x500, IMG_20160628_023552.jpg)
Devon: Addy...
Addy: Yes?
Devon: Lets add 20 more pages before we fuck
Addy: Brilliant!
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 03:29:49 No.1335885
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 03:49:56 No.1335896
PAGE 82
"No more talking. Lets just bone, ok?"

PAGE 83-100
Just sex, no text
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 03:57:25 No.1335899
And then maybe you guys will calm down about SEX, while ignoring all the sex we've already gotten plus character development and story.

Not all "writers" can be a Jay Naylor. Some actually care about the story and the characters.

Edited at 2017/12/31 09:52:49
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 04:13:59 No.1335907
"-Give me Succ."
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 06:45:04 No.1335938
I really hope in like, at least the next 3 pages the wolf whips his cock out some serious fuck happens.

I haven't been aroused once by this comic, hell it's not even my thing. I just want them to fuck. It's the principle of waiting so long to see it happen. I'm invested in a fuck i don't want.
wtf is happening
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 07:31:41 No.1335951
>>1335899
Most of the pages could be condensed into far fewer and more concise. I actually like a halfway decent story with my porn comics but this has gone way beyond what is needed. You don't need 60 of 80 pages being nothing but awkward looks.
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 13:11:58 No.1336069
>>1335899

Yeah, I'm sure loving all this great character development and story they put into it.

Setup: Bird wants to fuck dog, is hesitant to do so and afraid it might not work out.
Page 80: Bird wants to fuck dog, is STILL hesitant about it and afraid it won't work out.

All that development. To say nothing of the dog, who has EVEN LESS personality, nothing other than being nice and a bit dorky.

This whole thing is going to boil down to "I do love you but I'm just hesitant because it could cause trubs and possibly because I'm a virgin or otherwise just too gosh durn nice", and half the comic will have been padding apropos of nothing.

An artist who actually knew shit-all about writing a story or character development would have wrapped this up already and made a much more satisfying go of it, at that.
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 17:00:20 No.1336140
>>1335878
You guys only think about fuck. A good story is something that lacks in a lot of comics. If you want quick fuck there are a LOT of comics, unless you guys have some weird fetish with this comic to be complaining all the time.
XD
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Anonymous 2017/10/20 17:11:01 No.1336147
I know you are joking but its doesnt work...
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Anonymous 2017/10/21 05:17:37 No.1336371
>>1336069
devon and addy have about as much personality as the characters from the anime Monster Musume where every interaction is like
>female monster expresses or hints at insecurities about their looks
>main character says they're cute
Female character: YOU'VE MET ALL MY EXPECTATIONS AND NOW I WANT TO MARRY YOU
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Anonymous 2017/10/21 15:11:17 No.1336516
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Anonymous 2017/10/24 04:41:06 No.1338098
File: Q576vo_u18chan.gif - (1.31mb, 320x180, Q576vo.gif)
I get that this is meant to be a 'slow burn' type of comic that they were going for, and I'm fine with comics actually taking time to lay stuff out instead of rush it. But this is a little, uh... TOO slow of a pace. Some pages didn't even need to be pages, like after the sex scene there was a page of Addy waking up and with just her flying off of her bed. Sef, I love your work and all, and I know you thumbnail all your pages and plan everything out first before doing comics (If 'Family Matters' is any indication, for they did the same thing for that comic being thumbnailing it and planning it out first), but come on, that didn't really need to be an entire page.

And yet here we are and it's taking forever to have Addy and Devon make up, or something to that degree. Come on man, it's hard to really feel something from this or be on the edge of my seat as to what happens next if it's going at such a snails pace to do so. I'm not even pissed off or anything like that like everyone else seems to be here. It's just... it's frustrating, in all honesty.

Edited at 2017/10/24 04:45:29
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Anonymous 2017/10/24 07:29:18 No.1338135
>>1338098
If it took this long to get to the dragon incest in Family Matters I'd have been pissed. Granted it seemed the son got on board rather quickly with the whole fucking his mom thing, but it was hot. A few more pages to make that more believable would have gone over well.

This though is as you said, going way too far. The wolf likes her enough to finger her, the bird wants his dick, stop acting like dopey teenagers who don't know how to interact already, dammit.
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Anonymous 2017/10/24 12:22:09 No.1338202
This is as bad as reading stories and them covering the same shit over and over. It doesn't add to the story when the reader already understands what's going on, they don't need 3 pages of reminders! This is just insulting to both the reader and those who are paying for it. As well as a question of the artist's actual writing and art abilities. If their content isn't enough to pull in new people that they have to keep milking the old ones by creating page after meaningless page of absolute nothing, maybe it's really not all that great. If you're okay with the artist treating you (and potential others) like a cash cow, you really need to reevaluate your standards. You ARE a human being.

Edited at 2017/10/24 12:26:23
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Anonymous 2017/10/24 19:17:21 No.1338367
I personally like the character development before the sex. But I do have to agree that the pages are feeling painfully dragged out. I remember reading somewhere where Sief kinda has scenes play out in her head like a movie, and she likes to show all the details and nuances. Kinda like how Ghibli films take the time to add those little details to make the worlds/characters feel real.

The problem with that though is that it doesn't work for a comic where people are waiting each week. If she was waiting to release the finished comic as a whole then great! I love those details and scene transitions. But its painful for those waiting a whole week with no progress to show for it. She needs to remember this and tailor the pace accordingly.
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Anonymous 2017/10/25 19:54:57 No.1338919
File: 1299137223849_u18chan.jpg - (27.66kb, 640x384, 1299137223849.jpg)
A dedicated anon could trap and fuck the an entire species of bird into extinction in the time it will take this wolf to dick one.
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 05:36:40 No.1339955
next page
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 06:12:09 No.1339977
File: NHNF_Pg082_u18chan.jpg - (816.21kb, 937x1200, NHNF_Pg082.jpg)
p 82
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 06:12:37 No.1339978
File: NHNF_Pg083_u18chan.jpg - (788.04kb, 937x1200, NHNF_Pg083.jpg)
p 83
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 06:18:50 No.1339980
I KNEW IT!
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 06:44:15 No.1339987
File: 315414ba4b30fedc46803b52715315114987cd8b452e3236ff08f3c1db36d730_u18chan.jpg - (51.71kb, 650x427, 315414ba4b30fedc46803b52715315114987cd8b452e3236ff08f3c1db36d730.jpg)
>>1339977
>We've been through a lot together

It sure seems that way with the amount of pages doesn't it?

Edited at 2017/10/27 09:06:43
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 07:46:38 No.1340003
I finger fucked you because lol I DUNNO but like I don't really want to sex you ok haha!

Fuck you ya goddamned mutt and stick your knot into the fucking turkey! Jesus H tapdancing Christ!
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 09:39:57 No.1340027
File: pityfuck_u18chan.png - (50.69kb, 420x294, pityfuck.png)
Well, since a bird only has a cloaca, any sex you have with them would be 'anal' so...
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 10:10:19 No.1340038
>>1340027
.... SO?
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 11:43:27 No.1340078
he would make a good gay boi though, cutie.
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 12:07:33 No.1340081
File: nice_u18chan.jpg - (6.19kb, 320x180, nice.jpg)
>>1340038

So that wasn't pussy juice he was eating out of that hole
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 12:30:19 No.1340083
"I don't want to hurt you... you see, my dick is massive and I would split you in half"

"STICK THAT SHIT IN ME RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKFACE"
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 16:54:12 No.1340163
hmm. some good dialogue.
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Anonymous 2017/10/27 20:38:32 No.1340246
Maybe Addy will hook Devon up with that hot postbirb who's one shot image was the best thing to come from this comic.
You know gay cloaca.
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Anonymous 2017/10/28 01:07:21 No.1340351
Whaaaaaat is he going to sayyy. Its just that what?!
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Anonymous 2017/10/28 05:25:12 No.1340444
Are people really not predicting that he's just going to awkwardly say "My dicks too big" over the period of the next 3 pages.
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Anonymous 2017/10/28 07:21:06 No.1340470
Maybe he's worried about the knot.
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Anonymous 2017/10/28 14:46:50 No.1340598
File: 5450609_b482f00009df27fe66e1cca6b955698b_u18chan.jpg - (19.12kb, 332x353, 5450609+_b482f00009df27fe66e1cca6b955698b.jpg)
>>1339978
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 15:33:59 No.1340608
"I'm taken."
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Anonymous 2017/10/28 22:20:01 No.1340738
>1340444

I actually do have that as one of the possible things he'd say as my guess, but, IDK, feels too obvious?
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Anonymous 2017/10/29 09:28:08 No.1341014
File: wot_0_u18chan.jpg - (116.27kb, 976x549, wot.jpg)
>>1340083

"Devon, you idiot. We're furries. We're infinitely elastic, remember?"
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Anonymous 2017/10/30 04:41:42 No.1341409
File: 3mLydMU_1_u18chan.png - (69.9kb, 243x200, 3mLydMU.png)
>>1339978
Birb, he just eaten out your fucking cunt/asshole...

HOW CAN HE BE GAY?

Edited at 2017/10/30 04:42:23
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Anonymous 2017/10/31 01:13:01 No.1341795
File: 44f054f20ae44e808693b3edec04ec0a_u18chan.png - (9.78kb, 112x75, 44f054f20ae44e808693b3edec04ec0a.png)
never really followed this shit because I know it's an elastic kind of a scam. I come back and see this.

you guys really waited for 83 fucking pages until now? What the fuck.
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Anonymous 2017/10/31 03:49:45 No.1341917
>>1341795
People keep using the word "Scam". What's the scam? Is it a comic? Yes. As a comic does it have a story? Yes. As an adult comic, does it have Xrated sex scenes? Yes. Is it posted online for free (Granted we're early stealing it, but it's still posted for nothing) Yes. So, where's the scam part I'm missing? Because the story isn't giving use the type of sex between the characters we want to see, or because it's not happening faster than we want, while ignoring 2 different types of sex scenes in the story already?

You guys can act like people not old enough to be viewing the material they're seeing sometimes.
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Anonymous 2017/10/31 05:41:27 No.1341946
>>1341917
>take 20 pages to get across what should take 1
It may not technically be a scam but it's certainly scummy.
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Anonymous 2017/10/31 17:58:56 No.1342149
>>1341917
I believe it's because they're getting $1500 a month and the comic has been going for over a year now and pretty much has gone nowhere since like page 40 and there are scenes and even pages where it's just the same pose from different angles with little to no dialogue that builds any sort of mood, and the couple of comments from the same people on patreon that say "Oh, she looks so cute" makes them feel vindicated to continue making those scenes.
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Anonymous 2017/10/31 21:32:32 No.1342213
>>1341946

I'm not even sure I'd call it scummy, but the writer sure did evidence the need for an editor. Whatever the motivations behind it - that can be debated: It's indisputable that the comic is too long.

No editor worth a lick of salt would have allowed the comic to go to this length.
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Anonymous 2017/11/01 15:41:18 No.1342476
File: milkit_u18chan.png - (6.89kb, 256x197, milkit.png)
>>1342149

"There's a sucker born every minute" ~P. T. Barnum
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 02:43:36 No.1343068
Next page pls
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 04:04:09 No.1343084
next page
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 06:48:30 No.1343126
File: NHNF084_u18chan.jpg - (577.03kb, 936x1200, NHNF 084.jpg)
84
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 08:14:17 No.1343139
File: IMG_20160726_134249_u18chan.jpg - (45.23kb, 500x375, IMG_20160726_134249.jpg)
Ughhh
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 09:39:19 No.1343165
I give up. Bye!
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 11:29:54 No.1343176
>>1343126
I don't even know or care what this comic is but this page is amazing. Yep, that's a bird.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 11:37:04 No.1343179
>>1343126
>First panel
>We_have_your_diagnosis_sadly_its_fatal.jpeg

That first panel out of context will be the only thing of any value to come out of this shitshow.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 11:47:44 No.1343181
File: 1434771288035_u18chan.gif - (2.08mb, 208x200, 1434771288035.gif)
>>1343126
OK, I'm now convinced that this entire comic has just been an elaborate troll. Had me going for a bit there.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 13:10:45 No.1343193
File: guffaw-300x174_u18chan.jpg - (16.12kb, 300x174, guffaw-300x174.jpg)
>>1343126

This whole thing just keeps taking turns for the even worse.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 13:19:28 No.1343195
File: addythedevil_u18chan.jpg - (522.74kb, 936x1200, addy the devil.jpg)
>>1343126
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 13:58:12 No.1343233
She's a goddamn talking bird and you're a goddamn talking wolf. Big fucking surprise! If it was an issue you wouldn't have finger fucked her. Guess when sex happens people. I'll go with page 152.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 16:42:05 No.1343304
File: Orly_owl_u18chan.jpg - (19.52kb, 400x365, Orly_owl.jpg)
>>1343126
WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICED
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 20:26:18 No.1343358
while we wait atleast admire the beautiful expressions, Seif does a great job on them. Addys shock was drawn perfectly.
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Anonymous 2017/11/03 20:55:43 No.1343370
File: 1461099139061_u18chan.gif - (1.99mb, 448x252, 1461099139061.gif)
If the standard of writing for this comic got any lower it would be threatening to breach the core of the planet. At this point I'm actually excited to see what new depths this comic will sink to.
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Anonymous 2017/11/04 02:19:08 No.1343450
Due to the pace of the dialogue of this comic, i've already drawn out the next few pages.
>85: Devon: I just dont want to hurt you addy
>86: Addy: Devon you could never hurt me
>87: Devon: You know what i mean, addy
>88: Addy: But i love you devon
>89: Devon: I love you too addy but....
>90: Devon: The size difference

Fill the rest of each page with various shots of expressions from each character but no additional dialogue. Preferably this will be followed by a set up to wolf dick into bird snatch, or as sef might prefer the mail bird guy comes in a cockblocks Addy and kills the mood until the next day which will take another 40 pages to get to. You're welcome sef, you can mail me my check later.
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Anonymous 2017/11/04 05:04:19 No.1343499
>>1343450
91: Addy: But Devon...
92: Addy: *flies to nest as Devon gives deeply curious look*
93: Addy: *flies back
94: Addy: Umm, well...
95: Addy: I use this.
96: Addy: *shows off vibrator*
97: Devon: OH MY GOD!
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Anonymous 2017/11/04 05:26:58 No.1343500
>>1343450
>>1343499
It's just WREX, SHEPHERD all over again.
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Anonymous 2017/11/04 06:30:55 No.1343519
>>1343499
97: OH
98: MY
99: GOD
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Anonymous 2017/11/05 12:05:56 No.1344056
File: Furfags_Are_All_Pedophiles_u18chan.png - (285.16kb, 469x781, Furfags_Are_All_Pedophiles.png)
>>1343126
NB4: My dick is too big to fit inside your tiny body.
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Anonymush 2017/11/06 17:32:28 No.1344630
>>1344056

Funny, Considering the Kobold shown in that macro is an adult according to the comic it was ripped from.

Because everything shorter than 5 foot is OBVIOUSLY underage and not just short.
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Anonymous 2017/11/06 20:48:45 No.1344723
>>1344630
Manlet detected
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Anonymous 2017/11/06 21:57:01 No.1344733
Devon: you're a bird
cinema sins guy: that's racist
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Anonymous 2017/11/07 04:11:41 No.1344845
>>1344733
Cinema Sins Guy: That's Birdist
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Anonymous 2017/11/08 02:00:41 No.1345217
File: Zrzutekranuz2017-11-0802-48-35_u18chan.png - (156.1kb, 881x413, Zrzut ekranu z 2017-11-08 02-48-35.png)
this is so memetic that I made it into a wallpaper
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Anonymous 2017/11/08 02:01:51 No.1345220
File: bg_u18chan.png - (914.1kb, 1600x900, bg.png)
there
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Anonymous 2017/11/08 02:54:09 No.1345238
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Anonymous 2017/11/08 02:57:49 No.1345241
>>1345238
Same artist.
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Anonymous 2017/11/10 03:09:38 No.1346139
New page up
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Anonymous 2017/11/10 03:33:10 No.1346143
File: NHNF085_u18chan.jpg - (792.88kb, 936x1200, NHNF 085.jpg)
85
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Anonymous 2017/11/10 03:59:56 No.1346147
I get the feeling that...she wants sex....and he doesn't think he can give her the thick succulent sausage she craves so badly. Hmm... never hurts to try....or does it?
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Anonymous 2017/11/10 06:21:02 No.1346177
File: whatsformattingprecious_u18chan.jpg - (331.88kb, 936x1200, whatsformattingprecious.jpg)
>>1346143
Top panels make sense now.
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Kajex Surnahm 2017/11/10 07:07:23 No.1346185
>>1346147
> never hurts to try....or does it?

That's what I was thinking- "I would -love- to give you a hard dicking, but I also don't want to kill you by doing it."
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Anonymous 2017/11/10 19:47:18 No.1346350
File: THEKNOT_u18chan.jpg - (479.72kb, 936x1200, THEKNOT.jpg)
DO IT YOU STUPID WOLF
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Anonymous 2017/11/11 00:00:52 No.1346410
>>1346350
i only check in on this comic at this point purely for the shit posting until we finally get to the action by 2019
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Anonymous 2017/11/12 16:34:12 No.1346976
I bet the next page will have the burb saying "No harm no fowl" and then the comic ends.
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Anonymous 2017/11/13 03:48:04 No.1347264
>>1346976

"even though we never had sex, it was still a golden week"
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Anonymous 2017/11/13 23:18:19 No.1347582
the only way I can see this comic being redeemed for its piss poor pacing and lack of action is if eventually they get to the dicking, the two realize that devon can go balls deep, knot included, and not hurt addy, and then its like 100+ pages of just them brutally going at it for days from pent up sexual frustration.

>And then they get married
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Anonymous 2017/11/14 15:46:43 No.1347851
I really wanted to see the bird get it up the ass pussy when this all started last year. But as time went on and the artist decided to (do whatever this is) with the comic, The ship has set sail, Like even if we do get to the good stuff, even if its amazing.

Who cares? Hear me out on this, The dynamic between the two is boring its just basic wolf guy#1 and basic bird#2 Will anything fappable come from this? If we are lucky we can find something to CROP at some point but... the hype from family matters carried this... mess far to long.

Its just... cringe now.
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Anonymous 2017/11/14 15:48:24 No.1347852
Also, Is anyone else excited to see how the general community reacts once the realize the hes actually going to bed?
(talkin public release)
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The knot The big Hyena 2017/11/16 13:36:21 No.1348756
I was just imagining what that bird would look like shove down on his cock with a knot stuck in her, stuck on the penis couldn't get off even when shaking it up and down.
You going to wear that bird like a hood ornament
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 09:58:10 No.1349030
New Page up
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Anonymous I AM AN UNIMAGINATIVE TWAT 2017/11/17 14:55:17 No.1349069
New Page up

but where is it?
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 19:07:06 No.1349134
And the new page is *dramatic pause*

I bet it aint sex.
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Anonthemouse 2017/11/17 19:13:04 No.1349136
>>1349134
The next page will be her saying "Okay" over about 5 panels of emotional facial expressions, and then it ends.
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 23:01:02 No.1349233
anyone have the latest page?
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 23:13:06 No.1349237
File: NHNF086_u18chan.jpg - (730.98kb, 936x1200, NHNF 086.jpg)
86
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 23:29:11 No.1349240
Alright we got the new page...Now time for the real prize - the funny edit! Really about all what I'm looking forward to at this point
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Anonymous 2017/11/17 23:35:32 No.1349242
dude's a breast man because we know if he was an ass man he would have no problem with her
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 01:01:06 No.1349257
Fucking REALLY?

I thought this comic couldn't get any worse. But holy fuck was I wrong.

This is officially the worst furry comic I've ever read. From pacing, to execution, to now just straight up storyline. Fucking 1/10.

Just devolve the art to palcomix level to fit how fucking awful the rest of it is.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 01:02:00 No.1349259
>>1349242
Curves =/= boobs.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 05:34:42 No.1349380
>>1349237
You aren't attracted to me.

You. Retard. BIRD. Wolfboy just spent the night licking and fingering your shitcunt. Of course he's attracted to you.

It's okay to have drama and character development in a porn story. What's inexcusable is having the narrative contradict itself just to make the story seem deep and emotional.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 06:00:18 No.1349394
By now i do believe that Sefeiren does this on purpose to piss people off.
As many did write kinda bad stuff on that comic and now Sefeiren thinks of needing to do what they predict for the future just to anger them. xD
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 09:39:35 No.1349433
>>1349380

Not only that, he went with the incredibly cliche, retarded, overdone, hacky line of 'it's not you, it's me'. Followed by straight up the worst fucking justification ever:

'It's not you, it's me. I like girls that have a certain shape, even though I ate your shitcunt last night I'd prefer if you had an ass' like, just, what the FUCK. I couldn't write something this bad if I was trying.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 11:14:48 No.1349441
Okay, this comic seriously triggers me. What the fuck is this wolf (entire comic) on about? He fingers her all night, then says, its not you its me, then proceeds to tell her how it IS her (her body type). Pretty much, I do find you attractive, but I also dont (which took a million pages of him saying, its not like that, you know what I mean, dont be like that, before he even told her the reason) GET TO THE BLOODY POINT.

Why even bother anymore? This comic is just these two saying the same shit over and over.

Even if the writer isnt trying to milk it, this dialog is god awful. There is absolutely no need to drone on like this, even in a non porn comic. Either put more panels in one page, or stop having pages upon pages of dramatic shots. This is not a movie, its a comic, these dramatic shots arent nearly as powerful as the writer thinks them to be. Sure, a few here and there are fine, but there is an excessive amount of NOTHING going on here.


(Had to edit out my apostrophes because they show up weirdly on my phone)

Edited at 2017/11/18 11:18:29
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 14:10:15 No.1349482
>>1349441

Plus we all know how this is going to go.

He's all "No but I don't wanna fuck a bird"
And then she's "But don't you though"
And he's like "no"
And she's all "But seriously bird pussy"
And he'll be like "Oh I see"

And then they fuck. This is a tired attempt at trying to give it some weight and impact despite the fact they're just going to fuck after all the back and forth.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 16:18:29 No.1349603
how the fuck can that prick NOT be attracted to her?!?! She's the sexiest birb I've ever seen!
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 17:23:01 No.1349696
>>1349603
Birds are disgusting animals. They shit out of the same hole they fuck with and realistically, unless he's got the most micro-penis ever, it just isn't going to work.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 17:25:23 No.1349700
I really, really hope this comic ends with them agreeing to just be friends and never having sex. It will be the most epic troll of 2017.
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Anonymous 2017/11/18 21:03:39 No.1350159
File: 86_alternate_universe_u18chan.png - (899.83kb, 936x1200, 86_alternate_universe.png)
Enjoy
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Anonymous 2017/11/19 01:13:42 No.1350335
HHHWAT
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Anonymous 2017/11/19 03:19:32 No.1350357
>>1349696
Doing their shit/piss combo is called "mute".

I wonder if she can launch her shit like some other large birds can? Would sure explain >>1286672
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Anonymous 2017/11/19 06:35:44 No.1350410
I think the jist of it is not that he ISN'T attracted to her, but probably more like he expected himself to be more attracted to someone of the more 'anthro' build, not so much feral.
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Anonymous 2017/11/19 08:06:43 No.1350442
Has the artist never seen a dog knot a chicken/duck? it ain't an issue

Good observation though,
>>1350410
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Anonymous 2017/11/21 04:38:52 No.1351272
Well... It is written by one of us furries.
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Anonymous 2017/11/21 06:29:15 No.1351371
>>1350442

Good lord have you seen that?
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Anonymous 2017/11/21 10:17:59 No.1351415
>>1351371
that happens quite often to be honest. Smaller dogs of course.
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ND 2017/11/22 00:21:27 No.1351552
>>1349237
WOW, that just... plain... BAD!!!
I will delete this comic from my HDD and unwatch him.

>>1350159
This edit man! PRICELESS!!!
Awesome job!
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 03:51:05 No.1352305
Is there gona be a new page this week?
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 03:54:02 No.1352307
New page, lets follow this rabbit hole
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 03:55:21 No.1352308
page just released
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New page up Anonymous 2017/11/24 03:56:20 No.1352309
New page up on patreon
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 04:00:56 No.1352310
New page up on patreon
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 06:25:22 No.1352339
File: NHNF087_u18chan.jpg - (724.75kb, 936x1200, NHNF 087.jpg)
87
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 06:45:12 No.1352342
This is dragging the fuck out.
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 11:49:00 No.1352388
Waiting for the hilarious edits already
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 11:50:08 No.1352390
>>1352342
No, really? What a sudden change of pace
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 12:35:08 No.1352397
The page is turning red again. Things about to heat up finally.
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 16:07:48 No.1352423
>>1352339

How the fuck do you go from boldly taking the lead and giving her the fingerblasting of her life to a stuttering virgin who can't even directly talk about sex?
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 16:52:18 No.1352434
>>1352397
Good observation! Didn't notice until you mentioned it.

So I've got my bets that he:
1) either is actually concerned about fitting inside her but for some reason wasted a good few pages stumbling around the subject and making excuses (which would be on par with the shoddy writing/presentation in the past tens of pages or so).
Or
2) I vaguely recall in an old promo of sorts a mention of bird/anthro relationships being "taboo" and that is what he is actually concerned about (yet still slow and hesitant to bring it up...). Was curious about that since in the past 87 drawn out pages it never touched on that.

The weird dialogue between the two gives me one of these two impressions since IF it actually went from "I'm not attracted to you" to inevitable sex, it'd almost be as bad as SotS and believe it or not I have better faith here that it won't take that direction.
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 17:12:04 No.1352436
This might sound bad for some but...
By now i do hope they don't fuck.
Otherwise this whole discussion they had and this dragging along the pages were for absolutely nothing.
If they do it in the end... Yeah sure you might have such a conversation irl too but.. cheez not for months without end.
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 17:43:28 No.1352439
>>1352434
The taboo thing was correct. That was mentioned in the synopsis when the story vote happened after Family Matters.

I remember the pacing was touched on in a Q&A post around the same time. No Harm No Fowl was going to be intentionally longer with more character development as it was something that was only briefly explored in Family Matters, and people said they wanted more of that this time around.

I think it's suffering from BLTN syndrome more than anything else right now. I expect the pacing would be fine if you had the entire thing to read in one go, but some parts will seem to drag on while it's in progress. Some people can deal with that, some people can't. Personally I don't have a problem with it.
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Anonymous 2017/11/24 21:36:23 No.1352469
File: 87_alternate_universe_0_u18chan.png - (840.38kb, 936x1200, 87_alternate_universe.png)
Enjoy the edit.

Edited at 2017/11/24 21:43:02
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Star 2017/11/25 07:08:40 No.1352671
>>1350159
>>1352469

Haven't laughed at a porn comic as hard as I did, probably shouldn't of, but these edits are so glorious.
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Anonymous 2017/11/25 19:48:44 No.1352878
I think the edit version of this comic is shaping up to be better than the actual comic. Maybe we release it somewhere and give the artist some competition.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 02:43:53 No.1353874
Went from "I'm not attracted to you" to "What if I knock you up?".

Lord have mercy on Devon's soul.
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Anonymous 2017/11/28 03:35:13 No.1353883
I have to ask...what the fuck is wrong with devon?! and I'm not even talking about the edits...

Edited at 2017/11/28 03:35:28
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Anonymous 2017/11/28 06:00:10 No.1353992
>>1353883
I dunno, but he's dev-initely-on a roll.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 19:44:56 No.1354283
He's a special snowflake apparently.
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Anonymous 2017/11/28 22:24:08 No.1354332
https://graphtreon.com/creator/FriskyFerals

You know how bad you gotta fuck something up to get +77 patreons and still be making 50 bucks less than six months previously?

That's incredible.
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Anonymous 2017/11/29 01:41:15 No.1354418
im calling sterile, if she is im straight up done coming back to this comic
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 04:07:05 No.1354485
Judging by Addison's face, maybe she noticed Devon's got a boner?
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 03:54:07 No.1355202
New page up
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 04:28:14 No.1355206
new page, I want to see how how else devon can make an ass of himself.
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 05:37:59 No.1355218
File: NHNF088_u18chan.jpg - (818.54kb, 936x1200, NHNF 088.jpg)
88
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 06:04:08 No.1355222
there are a extra page "Addison's Mom: Stella"
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 09:53:36 No.1355251
Omg, FUCK THE BIRB ALREADY
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Anonthemouse 2017/12/01 12:00:06 No.1355267
I'm just waiting for the edit. I hope it involves busting a nut
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 14:15:28 No.1355285
He's trippin', man, he's trippin'.
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Anonymous 2017/12/01 19:15:51 No.1355435
86+87 maker
I'm not going to edit this one, I ran out of ideas. Was thinking of talking about ball-busting for Mr. Doggo with the coconut, but the face expressions are too odd to if and I'm not touching that.
What the shit is wrong with the doggo. FWB, hello? He sounds like a virgin whining about everything else but the fact that the bird there wants to get boned.
One thing is to have some backstory, another is to listen to noninterrupted whining.
What, 2-3 more pages about him talking about what, a prenuptial contract? Get on with it already.
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Anonymous 2017/12/02 01:04:29 No.1355552
how about that extra about the mom?
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Anonymous 2017/12/02 03:52:28 No.1355602
I want to see the extra "Addison's Mom".
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Anonymous 2017/12/02 11:54:01 No.1355682
>>1355435
Sefeiren us doing some kind of a "uwu soft boy special snowflake so endearing" bullshit with him. She seems to think this makes him cuter or something. When in fact it just makes the character an awkward shit.

It's pretty obvious that Sefeifen thinks she's making this endearing story with intresting and cute characters. She believes these are characters the audience loves and wants to know more about.

Unfortunately, this is completely true for her Patreon supporters, whose every comment heaps on adoration. We're in for the soft boy ride.
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Anonymous 2017/12/02 12:07:07 No.1355685
>>1355218

Okay, honestly, I can't hate this page, which is pretty amazing. It's just more bullshit and whining, but there's a joke with a punchline. The page feels like it has some kind of a reason for existing, some fundamental point to it, instead of being something Sefeiren ad-libbed from an awkward, meandering relationship talk she had at some point.

I mean, I still think this comic is just a hot mess at this point, but this one page manages to be be passable.

I have no hope for the next one.
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 01:16:00 No.1356438
>>1355218
Okay, so I thought maybe you guys were exaggerating about the slow pace of this comic by just a bit but this page literally does not progress the story.
At all.
As in, you could completely cut out this page and you would lose nothing because it doesn't go beyond the last panel of the previous page...
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edit Anonymous 2017/12/04 02:26:54 No.1356467
File: NHNF_This_Comic_Needs_Jesus_u18chan_u18chan.png - (968.48kb, 936x1200, NHNF_This_Comic_Needs_Jesus_u18chan.png)
This Comic is Doomed!
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 03:13:25 No.1356499
These edits are making way more sense than the original dialogue

Edited at 2017/12/04 03:13:54
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 05:23:09 No.1356532
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 12:58:55 No.1356601
could someone post the mom thing here?
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Furrynomous 2017/12/04 17:41:32 No.1356763
By furry logic, the mom will have sex with Simon or have a threesome with the wolf and the daughter by the end if the comic or in a second part.

(Really, will Simon have an important role in the comic or his appearance is a Big Lipped alligator moment?)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigLippedAlligatorMoment
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 17:48:16 No.1356764
File: Addison_Mom_u18chan.jpg - (2.94mb, 2399x2806, Addison_Mom.jpg)
Here ya go
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 18:56:35 No.1356795
I hate to agree with indecisive wolf but I also would be rather concerned about how things would go with snatching the chance for grandchildren out from under that bird
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 22:24:04 No.1356868
this is not her mom, but rather the face of almost everyone here after a new comic page releases
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 23:44:42 No.1356899
>>1355685
Yup. When it started, I thought the wolf was serious and professional, and that was the reason the bird had the hots for him. But now we have this...
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Anonymous 2017/12/04 23:46:58 No.1356900
>>1356899
oh shit, I meant to agree with >>1355682
instead. Crap.
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Anonymous 2017/12/07 08:15:47 No.1357961
I will forgive all if this ends up being an excuse to get the Mailbird involved.

Especially if dick does inside Mailbird.
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 03:23:22 No.1358352
new page is out
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 04:59:00 No.1358389
NEW....PAGE
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 05:04:10 No.1358391
Hopefully this one actually goes somewhere
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 05:15:21 No.1358394
But where is next page?! I must find out if dog head is skull or co co nut!
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 05:18:38 No.1358395
File: NHNF089_u18chan.jpg - (676.02kb, 936x1200, NHNF 089.jpg)
89
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 05:44:29 No.1358397
sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 05:58:14 No.1358400
I think we might be getting somewhere finally. The page is starting to turn red again.
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 07:07:32 No.1358414
Whenever things finally start to get to sex, I'm betting she shows him her vibrator. Either that gets him gungho on the idea or he insists she shows him, thus drawing out actual sex even further.
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 16:58:57 No.1358591
>>1358400
Yeah but we've seen in
>>1352339
and
>>1355218
That the page turning red can just indicate embarrassment or emotional tension so I wouldn't count that as a reliable tell.
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 18:26:42 No.1358629
was there no page 90 posted? Usually when they post 2 pages on FA they post 2 to patreon. I thought anyway
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Anonymous 2017/12/08 22:38:38 No.1358746
>>1358395
I really thought this page would reveal that he was getting a big stiffy from talking about this subject, hence the smile on birdgirl's face in the previous pages.

But I was wrong, it's just more padding.
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Anonymous 2017/12/09 13:50:32 No.1359008
>>1358395
Would it even work?

SHE IS FUCKING LITERALY BEGGING YOU TO SPLIT HER IN TWO, GET ON WITH IT
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Anonymous 2017/12/10 10:48:13 No.1359340
Can someone start creating an alternate timeline? I don't even care if the art is that good. Someone needs to fix this! I'll help with color/shading too. I just need someone to do lineart! I'll even do it for free!
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Anonymous 2017/12/10 15:23:25 No.1359378
>>1358746

She's not smiling. She's frowning, Sefeiren just draws her with an upturned mouth due to beak. The edges of her mouth are still sagging. This comic is all frowns and panicky deer-in-the-headlights looks at the moment.
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Anonymous 2017/12/10 22:43:27 No.1359542
File: Cn93I-AUkAEZ9dy_0_u18chan.jpg - (20.8kb, 482x288, Cn93I-AUkAEZ9dy.jpg)
>>1358395
JUST FUCK ALREADY
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Anonymous 2017/12/12 13:10:30 No.1360162
This comic is pathetic and the artist have some kind of autism.
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majormolesto 2017/12/12 15:02:58 No.1360170
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Anonymous 2017/12/12 20:03:05 No.1360223
>>1360170
True, But he's not wrong.
At least i don't think so at this point.
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majormolesto 2017/12/12 22:34:24 No.1360253
>>1360223
Pathetic is most definitely not the word I'd use. Well, not the comic anyway, I don't know about the author.
Autistic? Perhaps, but I find the comic to be well made on the technical level and pretty entertaining. It's one of few online comics I follow solely for the "not porn" aspects, I couldn't care less about... bird porn, I find it rather disturbing to be honest, but in my opinion it's quite funny and well written. At least for an amateur I guess? Idk, I just like it and I don't think it's fair to talk just whites or blacks here about it. And I'm not a fan of this kind of "feedback", it's just talking shit, I mean feedback doesn't have to be positive, but for fucks sake, be constructive about it.

Edit: I'm new here, I forgot it's all stolen and this is actually not "feedback", durr.

Edited at 2017/12/12 22:35:54
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Anonymous 2017/12/12 22:48:32 No.1360256
>>1360253
As if Sefeiren wasn't already browsing chans to read on what people say about their comic.
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Anonymous 2017/12/13 08:53:44 No.1360438
>>1360256
Tinfoil much
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Anonymous 2017/12/13 09:19:49 No.1360441
>>1360438
Nothing "tinfoil" about that!
It's what I would do.
Charge fools for money and go search chans like this for threads like this. I'd even shitpost in them.
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Anonymous 2017/12/13 12:29:32 No.1360536
>>1360253
The entire plot line feels like the artist forgot what the they where talking about.

But kept going.
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Anonymous 2017/12/14 00:39:37 No.1360828
File: SOONtm_u18chan.jpeg - (47.12kb, 468x548, SOONtm.jpeg)
>>1360536
He he know exactly what he is doing:

SHEKELS
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 02:34:10 No.1361364
New page up
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 02:45:06 No.1361367
File: NHNF090_u18chan.jpg - (678.58kb, 936x1200, NHNF 090.jpg)
90
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 03:01:22 No.1361371
SEX! Puhleeease
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 03:09:23 No.1361372
>>1361367
the composition of this page is so dreadful i can't begin to describe it. when is 'devon' being said? across all four panels? is it that hard to form a full image composed of the four separated panels? why has it suddenly gone purple in the third strip, but back to blue in the fourth? why is there still so much unnecessary buildup? if anything, i've grown to care less of these characters over the course of this story. in fact, i actively dislike them both now. it can't be that fucking hard to depict a realistic conversations between two individuals that isn't full of awkward, pregnant pauses at literally every 6 seconds. it cannot be. this is easily one of the slowest, most drawn out dialogues i've ever seen. ever.
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 16:21:49 No.1361594
File: NHNF090_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (663.49kb, 936x1200, NHNF090_u18chan.jpg)
Stop fucking whining and complaining.

Start making memes instead.
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Anonymous 2017/12/15 18:14:32 No.1361616
File: 1513004931307_u18chan.gif - (12.09kb, 600x417, 1513004931307.gif)
>>1361372
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Anonymous 2017/12/16 02:39:52 No.1361742
>>1361594
Wish this was the real dialogue
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Anonymous 2017/12/16 09:19:17 No.1361854
File: dc1672127fdf34a00ccde0e2312b24da_u18chan_u18chan.png - (54.75kb, 240x240, dc1672127fdf34a00ccde0e2312b24da_u18chan.png)
Zzzzzz

Christ this comic sucks
Is it ever going to go anywhere?
Fuck the porn, just do something interesting!
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Anonymous 2017/12/16 12:38:02 No.1361892
>>1361854

Like what? Playing soccer all the sudden?
Just sayin...
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Anonymous 2017/12/16 18:25:40 No.1362036
>>1361892
That would honestly be far more interesting than what has been going on so far.
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Anonymous 2017/12/17 05:39:50 No.1362209
File: NHNF_Fic_1_u18chan.jpg - (864.47kb, 1377x1439, NHNF_Fic_1.jpg)
Well, since we're all blueballed, thought I'd try a written continuation. Enjoy, maybe? Part 1
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Anonymous 2017/12/17 07:29:43 No.1362238
File: tumblr_n2p2hykwWO1rkumvuo1_500_u18chan.gif - (1019.12kb, 450x360, tumblr_n2p2hykwWO1rkumvuo1_500.gif)
>>1362209
A more compelling scene has been told in this single page than in this entire comic.
Good work my man
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Anonymous 2017/12/17 21:49:31 No.1362435
That written piece was great, keep that going
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Anonymous 2017/12/18 04:13:01 No.1362868
>>1362209
This is actually really good. It reads way better than what the comic has given us so far, it isn't drawn out, and I actually enjoyed it, yes, even that lewd pun at the end.
Do you do writing in any chance? Because this isn't that bad.
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Anonymous 2017/12/18 04:18:09 No.1362869
>>1362868
Why, it's almost like he should start his own comic or something.
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Anonymous 2017/12/18 09:12:23 No.1362965
>>1362435
>>1362868
>>1362869
Whatever. Devon is waaay too shy and awkward to say "I didn't say that I wasn't willing to try." If the comic takes that turn, and I think it will, I think Devon will have to say something a little more subtle and then Addy will take charge. I'm excited to see how this story will develop and it does not bother me one bit that it's taking this long. I am however worried that the actual porny parts will be a let down. I'm hoping it's really kinky.
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Kaosz 2017/12/18 09:15:04 No.1362966
>>1362209

Please get in contact with me! Find a lineartist and I can do color/shading

Edited at 2017/12/18 09:33:59
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Anonymous 2017/12/19 07:56:17 No.1363506
File: 00001_0_u18chan.jpg - (1.23mb, 1959x2534, 00001.jpg)
thanks for the feedback guys. I personally dont think its that great but I was just having fun with it, will update as time permits. to the person wanting to do a comic..I have no clue who would be willing to do that...if anyone wants to use this fic im pooping out go for it...haha

Part 2
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Anonymous 2017/12/19 07:56:19 No.1363507
File: 00002_0_u18chan.jpg - (580.77kb, 1959x2534, 00002.jpg)
>>1363506
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Anonymous 2017/12/19 09:04:38 No.1363517
>>1363506
>>1363507
Outside of certain grammar nitpicks I can't help but notice (Like Im instead of I'm and so on), this is good, keep doing what you're doing.
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Anonymous 2017/12/19 11:22:07 No.1363548
>>1362966
I'm not good at storyboarding out a comic but if you find someone to do THAT, I could definitely refine and even ink their sketches.

Edited at 2017/12/19 11:22:24
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kaosz Anonymous 2017/12/20 06:32:45 No.1363902
>>1363548

Any willing participants?
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 06:53:12 No.1364788
new page
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 13:32:19 No.1364861
New page up
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 17:22:14 No.1364933
New page
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 19:23:48 No.1364963
I'm just here for the bantz, I dont even care about the sex lol
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 19:28:22 No.1364966
File: sefmessage_u18chan.png - (18.8kb, 1045x184, sef message.PNG)
i asked sef about when the sex comes and i got this. he seems like a very nice guy.

as much as i hate to say this but we need patience.
"good things come to those who wait"
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 19:50:56 No.1364975
>>1364966
*After their wallets have been sucked dry.
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Anonymous 2017/12/22 22:16:49 No.1365036
>>1364966
Seff said "shut it and send me dollas"
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 03:26:32 No.1365116
File: NHNF_Pg091_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (727.9kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg091_u18chan.jpg)
last two panels got me like
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 03:29:30 No.1365118
>>1365116
what others have said earlier in the thread still rings true: this is definitely not the sort of comic where a week's worth of action happens in a week. this is the sort of comic where you go through tens of pages in a sitting
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Anonthemouse 2017/12/23 04:02:22 No.1365129
>>1365116
Oops. Thought this was just a low quality edit
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 09:49:26 No.1365194
>>1365116
Is it me or is the art quality deteriorating? The bird looked a lot better drawn earlier on
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 13:41:41 No.1365217
>>1365118
No you're missing out on the bad writing part. Not just the bullshit filler. Quit justifying this.
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 16:05:29 No.1365254
File: devoneck_u18chan.jpg - (48.45kb, 514x349, devoneck.jpg)
So is Devon like... half giraffe or something?
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 16:42:13 No.1365262
File: IMG_1514047224236_u18chan.jpg - (12.14kb, 330x264, IMG_1514047224236.jpg)
>>1365254
Resume

Edited at 2017/12/23 16:42:36
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Anonymous 2017/12/23 21:32:41 No.1365328
>>1365254
His neck has definitely extended over the course of the comic (compare page 91 to page 04, for example). Earlier on there was more care put into anatomical details such as the hands and facial features, with more varied and interesting poses.

>>1365194
Sef must be rushing these pages out. Or getting bored with the comic.

Edited at 2017/12/23 22:30:43
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Anonymous 2017/12/24 19:24:41 No.1365724
>>1365254
Half dick
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Anonymous 2017/12/24 20:38:53 No.1365745
>>1365262
That little monster is fucking adorable.
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Anonymous 2017/12/26 09:17:36 No.1366249
Tfw you read all the pages in one day and now you have to wait like everyone else
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Anonymous 2017/12/27 07:06:00 No.1366653
Welcome to this thread, Where a wolf if trying to fuck a bird and the viewers are spoiled little shits.
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Anonymous 2017/12/27 15:09:37 No.1366758
This comic is like old Chinese food, It looked good at first, but someone forgot about it in the crisper, fappability at this point has been memed away. Even if the comic does finish... its still old Chinese. No one wants it.
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Anonymous 2017/12/27 16:49:23 No.1366786
>>1366653

Are you even reading the same fucking comic?

The wolf trying to fuck the bird is what we're all begging for and have been for the last fucking year while we got one page a week of weak-ass pathetic fucking drawn-out expression panels and a retarded story whose best quality when finished will be that it can be skipped.
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 09:54:42 No.1367590
New page
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 10:14:00 No.1367592
nice work mods.

Deleting the comment wich complains about the others wich trash this thread with their shit and keep the shit wich trashs this thread undeleted and uncommented. Well done. all the probs to the great mods

Edited at 2017/12/29 14:27:55
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 14:02:28 No.1367645
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 14:27:28 No.1367650
>>1367645

almost close
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 14:38:25 No.1367655
New page
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 15:01:11 No.1367663
Double update! 92 and 93 are out!
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 15:48:48 No.1367676
>>1367650

Well almost close Sef, if Sef is almost close to seeing this can we get close to almost having updates for No Hyenas?
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 17:32:58 No.1367707
>>1367676

I hope you realize that this comic is just the prologue and that the main comic will start when Trump is out of office.
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 17:59:21 No.1367734
hmmm
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Anonymous 2017/12/29 21:17:46 No.1367778
Anyone have the pages?
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 00:05:28 No.1367820
Goddammit new pages
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Anonybadger 2017/12/30 00:13:40 No.1367828
>>1367820
It would not surprise me if the reason we don't have the new pages is because people are impatient and the holder is showing us what for xD
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 01:49:41 No.1367906
Frankly, why SHOULD anyone post anymore pages? Everyone bitches about the story, more pages are posted and there's nothing but more bitching. Even without reading all of the childish whining and bickering it's tiresome to scroll through.
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 02:48:12 No.1367930
>>1367906

Because there are likely a lot more people here than those who choose to comment (on both sides of the argument mind you).
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 06:20:30 No.1368055
seriously stop your bitching and just post the upcoming images.. just sitting there whining about it won't get you anywhere.
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 08:10:32 No.1368078
File: 1329068399414_u18chan.jpg - (105.57kb, 641x534, 1329068399414.jpg)
I'd be fine with not getting anymore pages if 'No Hyenas' was continued in full.
I want that tiger to rail me in the ass.
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 09:32:54 No.1368091
Being unfinished, 'No Hyenas' is a way better comic. I'm surprised that Sef decided to put in on hiatus and focus on this comic. Still, I like this comic as well, so stop whining and just post the new pages!

Edited at 2017/12/30 09:33:17
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 09:51:31 No.1368093
File: NHNF_Pg092_u18chan.jpg - (767.8kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg092.jpg)
Happy New Year, stop crying!
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 09:51:32 No.1368094
File: NHNF_Pg093_u18chan.jpg - (635.85kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg093.jpg)
>>1368093
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 12:12:04 No.1368125
>>1368093
Don't worry, Devon.
You two will still be a better couple than them >>1209070
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Anonymous 2017/12/30 21:58:09 No.1368494
>>1368094

it really bothers me that his neck is wider than his skull and just keeps getting bigger/smaller... like if you took the fur away, especially around his cheeks, his head would be minuscule. dudes got a throbbing neck boner goin on. wtf sef
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Kajex Surnahm 2017/12/30 22:32:06 No.1368522
>>1368094

STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND FUCK THE GODDAMN BIRB
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Anonymous 2017/12/31 06:06:50 No.1368773
Can we get a re post of just the comic please? Like t was done with the Kabier comic?
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Anonymous 2017/12/31 07:26:39 No.1368795
>>1368773

I wager it'd be best to wait until the comic is fully complete before doing this 'cause it'll inevitably devolve into the same mess this thread is.
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 03:27:47 No.1371075
new page, flaming homosexuals!
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 04:43:03 No.1371101
File: BLKdpuM9mSTzQnhNCxR6V-jw7ZBxDBo2SqT1ewZyKdHhEgzsQ6VdRe-oC4vF_h9-_u18chan.jpg - (179.01kb, 936x1200, BLKdpuM9mSTzQnhNCxR6V-jw7ZBxDBo2SqT1ewZyKdHhEgzsQ6VdRe-oC4vF_h9-.jpg)
Fine I'll post new page flaming homosexuals.

Spoiler alert: It's fucking nothing
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 05:04:07 No.1371112
There is seriously no point on posting until at least something sexual happens because by GOD is this comic horseshit
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 05:08:12 No.1371113
how about all these extras? they seem interesting in the very least.
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 05:31:40 No.1371128
>>1371113
agreed, would commission pics / 10
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 05:33:23 No.1371129
>>1371101
At least we might finally get SOME insight on the 'taboo' aspect of their type of relationship (Anthro X Feral). We went too damn long in this comic without an explanation as to how them being together was considered wrong.

Edited at 2018/01/05 05:33:53
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 05:54:30 No.1371134
As a note on the comic, I think Addy's panel 4 expression is very well-drawn
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 13:14:09 No.1371251
like.. i can understand Devon and (Shit whats the bird called? Addison?) because like Devon has the wang but surely the other way round just like.. idk it seems a much more difficult way of making things work...
The term throwing a sausage down a hallway comes to mind
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 14:11:27 No.1371258
"There's more in a relationship than just sex"
Yeah, of course. If this wasn't a frickin' smut comic on a porn site for fuck's sake!
More than an entire year is goddamn enough "more than just sex"!
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Anonymous 2018/01/05 20:24:34 No.1371392
>>1371258
ikr, also it's like she totally forgot her lusting about being fucked silly by the wolf, right after she woke up.
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Anonymous 2018/01/06 01:19:15 No.1371540
>>1371113

Prediction: The next one will be Shana fingerblasting Justin.
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Anonymous 2018/01/06 08:19:39 No.1371646
>>1371540
well actually birds don't really mate like mammals, it's actually really difficult to tell apart a male from a female, in order to mate a male dont penetrate te female they only do a little something called the cloacal kiss
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Anonymous 2018/01/07 08:30:00 No.1372423
Any chance of more of those written pieces? They were pretty good
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Anonymous 2018/01/08 05:18:38 No.1372851
If you guys havent noticed, the border if the comic is progressing to red, which means something sexual is getting close
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Anonymous 2018/01/08 06:11:35 No.1372872
>>1372851

Inb4 periodblood sex.
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Anonymous 2018/01/08 08:05:32 No.1372904
>>1372851
The last time it got red nothing sexual happened. I think aside from sex the border turns red when the mood changes in general, like topics getting heated and such.

Edited at 2018/01/08 10:29:22
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Anonymous 2018/01/08 23:07:59 No.1373193
Wow, this entire dumb discussion was almost made worth it by the look that bird has on his face
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Anonymous 2018/01/09 03:00:52 No.1373303
and the biggest gag is that there probably isn't even going to be an actual fuck scene, some bullshit's gonna happen, the author's gonna be like "fuck all of you" and you guys won't even have a reason to be mad cause all of you already knew nothing was gonna happen
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Anonymous 2018/01/09 22:28:18 No.1373716
>>1361372
It's this the Twilight of the furry fandom, or will this slow-burn be worth it in the long run?

Either way, I didn't pay for it, so I don't give as much of a shit, but I'm sure that wouldn't be the case if I did. I'm gonna wait this out and see how this ends, then make the call.
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Anonymous 2018/01/11 00:42:11 No.1374248
>>1373716

Nah, that's The Internship/Summers Gone by Jackaloo
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Anonymous 2018/01/11 02:20:05 No.1374294
File: hrzsUou_u18chan.gif - (18.32mb, 728x408, hrzsUou.gif)
>>1273515
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Anonymous 2018/01/11 07:02:29 No.1374376
>>1374294

fucking hell, i laughed so hard, although i wonder if this will happen in the comic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkuo7-sefEQ
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Anonymous 2018/01/12 05:24:22 No.1374954
New page up on patreon
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Anonymous 2018/01/12 15:26:52 No.1375065
File: NHNF_Pg095_u18chan.jpg - (769.47kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg095.jpg)
...no harm no fowl
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Anonymous 2018/01/12 16:49:36 No.1375096
>>1375065

"this truly has been a golden week"
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Anonymous 2018/01/12 16:49:37 No.1375097
95 pages of build up just to say the title of the comic...SONAVABITCH!
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Anonymous 2018/01/12 17:04:39 No.1375101
>>1375065
"No harm, no fowl" *end scene* I swear to god, if they do that.......
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Anonymous 2018/01/13 01:10:16 No.1375243
>>1375065

"A dick in a bird is worth two in a wolf."
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Anonymous 2018/01/13 03:40:24 No.1375283
>>1375096
You sunuvabitch! Got me.
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Anonymous 2018/01/13 07:14:49 No.1375418
No harm no fowl ENDS! Page 96 lolol
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Anonymous 2018/01/13 08:07:32 No.1375456
Ninety fucking five pages for a one night stand? If we don't see the most beautiful fucking sunrise, with a double rainbow on the next page coupled with some witty sexy chat .... This truly was a golden night.
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Anonymous 2018/01/13 18:10:25 No.1375552
>>1375456
Welcome to patreon, where all milk is yogurt and fermented cheese is a must
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Anonymous 2018/01/15 16:24:47 No.1376496
>>1375101
I hope it ends on the next page.
Its a "Slow burn" She said.

Its the only way she can save face at this point. To throw her hands up in the air and go with the running gag "No harm no fowl" Truthfully, this is her best option. Just let it meme out and start a better project.

However going by her track record. Shes prolly gonna keep dragging this out, Which is artistic suicide.
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Anonymous 2018/01/16 02:48:17 No.1376856
>>1376496
Let me check this comic's patreon page for a minute... mmh, $1455 monthly, I see...
Can you serve me some of that famous "Artistic Suicide" you spoke about? Please and thank you.
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Anonymous 2018/01/16 06:51:33 No.1377016
Lotta hurt butts =\
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Star 2018/01/16 11:22:18 No.1377079
The biggest tragedy of this whole thing? The person making hilarious edits isn't making edits anymore. :<
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Anonymous 2018/01/16 16:49:29 No.1377149
>>1377079
Cause there's no point in coming back to the comic. It's shit
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Anonymous 2018/01/17 04:46:43 No.1377524
>>1376856
Eventually, Even furries wise up.
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Anonymous 2018/01/17 12:11:25 No.1377611
Idk I actually like the slow sweet burn of this comic.

I guess I'm projecting. I haven't had someone look past the superficiality of my race let alone my species, to form a romantic bond with.

Consider me a sucker for that star crossed love.
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Anonymous 2018/01/17 15:27:38 No.1377634
>>1377611
yes, you are projecting. you make it sound as if others are supposed to do all the work. chances are you have character flaws that you don't recognize if you pine so desperately for feral porn and connect that hard to a horribly paced comic instead of looking for romantic bonds with actual people.

Edited at 2018/01/17 15:28:33
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Anonymous 2018/01/18 21:30:17 No.1378119
File: NHNF_Pg096_u18chan.jpg - (708.66kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg096.jpg)
Jesus christ
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Anonymous 2018/01/18 22:23:39 No.1378141
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 01:32:31 No.1378226
File: huItRa_u18chan.jpg - (68.11kb, 347x347, huItRa.jpg)
>>1378119
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 02:04:41 No.1378232
Really you could cut this page out of the comic. Its so off topic. To be honest you could cut like 50pages out of this comic book and it would still make just as much sense lololol.
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 02:38:16 No.1378254
im always like why does it matter how much sef fannies around with this comic then i remember some people are actually paying for it
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 03:13:10 No.1378272
>>1378119
I'M GETTING BLUEBALLED HARDER THAN BETTER LATE THAN NEVER

FUCK THE BIRD
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 16:47:06 No.1378323
honestly though... outside of Wolf Dickâ„¢ what does she see in this dude?

Edited at 2018/01/19 16:48:26
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 18:48:39 No.1378360
>>1378119
"I've been waiting so long
To be where I'm going
In the sunshine of your love"

"Everything i do i do it for you"

“I think you're fine / You really blow my mind / Maybe someday, you and me can run away / I just want you to know / I wanna be your Romeo”
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 19:33:15 No.1378370
>>1378119
"... You gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight."
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Anonymous 2018/01/19 23:58:24 No.1378437
>>1373716
>>1374248
This comic could be tiresome, slow or weird (if you're not into "anthro on feral" fetish) but as opposed to that comic mentioned it doesen't sell us toxic relationships as something good.

At least Devon and Addy really loves each other, have a sane relationship and don't have any condition. I didn't like this comic at first but after reading the other I'm starting to like it a little.
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Anonymous 2018/01/20 05:49:16 No.1378571
95 pages already? holy fuck
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Anonymous 2018/01/20 09:41:15 No.1378643
>>1378437
agreed entirely. This is one of the distressingly few good (art wise) wholesome (no incest, etc) comics currently being made.
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Anonymous 2018/01/20 17:31:41 No.1378744
I don't know where people got the idea that treading on a very complex series of fucked up romantic entanglements in all their sides is the same as implying they are unequivocally good, especially when said comic isn't even done. This comic may present a relationship that's much healthier by comparison, but its world-building, character work and pacing are very poor. It has the exact scope as the first episode of a tv series and suffers greatly for it, because we know very little about the characters, their personal history, and the world and the people around them. We have no reason to care if they succeed or not, and at this rate we'll only see them begin to struggle (instead of talking about future struggling) in who knows how long. This is beyond "slow burn", it's shameless padding. Thus far, it hasn't done anything to really stand out from other forbidden love stories.

Edited at 2018/01/20 18:33:18
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Anonymous 2018/01/21 08:36:06 No.1379084
Quoting something for somber situations. My man.
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Anonymous 2018/01/21 11:17:55 No.1379102
File: fuckmyshitup_u18chan.jpg - (19.42kb, 167x429, fuck my shit up.jpg)
i just want to see the bird get fucked
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Anonymous 2018/01/21 12:22:42 No.1379124
>>1379102
WE KNOW!
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 19:08:09 No.1381256
Double update boys!!!
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 20:10:18 No.1381267
File: FVByRSkN3SFEwIxjI1_7DQ1VCnZkGqAwmbORjfhtjM5rp9zVljPk-7MTvOmgoKLj_u18chan.jpg - (139.46kb, 936x1200, FVByRSkN3SFEwIxjI1_7DQ1VCnZkGqAwmbORjfhtjM5rp9zVljPk-7MTvOmgoKLj.jpg)
Two pages this week
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 20:11:22 No.1381269
File: _sFo6HrXQdAV78jL2UVO720k5yxyvaziyUxa4j7xhJWdbbxNZ5Bz9cvsM8Mi7zVn_u18chan.jpg - (146.83kb, 936x1200, _sFo6HrXQdAV78jL2UVO720k5yxyvaziyUxa4j7xhJWdbbxNZ5Bz9cvsM8Mi7zVn.jpg)
Not looking good boys
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 20:21:07 No.1381272
It's been 6months. FUCK THE BIRD.
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 20:22:44 No.1381273
P E N E T R A T I O N
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 21:42:20 No.1381322
It's been a loong time..
Anyone remembers the voting for this comic? xD
Was never happy with the voting..
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Anonymous 2018/01/25 21:55:51 No.1381344
>>1381269
aw come on you gotta include the posting comment

>Second update this week! This wraps up this scene, and I'm looking forward to finally moving away from rain and grey ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

>I'm currently working on the batch of pages for next month, and I gotta say that they are brutal - work wise, not content wise (well, I guess that's up for you guys to decide). Over the next 4 pages there are some 60+ panels of which most have background elements including background characters - it's taking a lot of time to say the least! I think it'll pay off in the end, though, as I'm feeling pretty happy with a lot of the emotions and expressions drawn out so far. So look forward to that next week!

>As always, thank you all so much for supporting and reading~!
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 00:35:25 No.1381460
File: AngryStich_u18chan.gif - (491.65kb, 260x179, Angry Stich.gif)
Me every new page with no yiff
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 02:40:09 No.1381492
File: doge_u18chan.jpg - (80.11kb, 641x540, doge.jpg)
Page 100 is gonna say "the end", just watch
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 06:18:50 No.1381569
>>1381344
>muh emotions, muh expressions, muh backround!

Fuck off and fuck the burb!

At this point we are the only one to blame, any of us that expect Anything sexual to happen within the next 20 pages is a fool
Fuck this shit, there is more porn content in 5 night at freddy at this point
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 06:19:51 No.1381570
>>1381344

>Lots of background characters next month

So unless they instantly go for huge orgies, this will likely mean no porn.
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 07:29:03 No.1381591
Devon better fuck the hell out of Addy. Then the mail bird better join in and Devon fucks him too. Then both birds better stick their cloacas together while Devon grinds into them like meat in a sandwhich. THEN that cutie and her bird boyfriend better come by and join in with some hot pseudo-lesbian tribbing action. Because the payoff for all this nothing better be good.
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Anonymous 2018/01/26 16:02:49 No.1381702
He's never going to fuck the bird. I've been away for 4 months. It's never going to happen lol
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Anonymous 2018/01/27 23:29:39 No.1382285
It's kinda like waiting for Half-life 3. Just give up, people. The bird will get fucked months from now, or years from now, or never. Let go of your anticipation. It will only bring you pain.
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Anonymous 2018/01/28 05:46:58 No.1382394
File: there-is-no-need-to-be-upset_u18chan.jpg - (59.68kb, 357x346, there-is-no-need-to-be-upset.jpg)
I actually like cute comics and cartoon animals regardless of yiff, so I'm not upset at all. Y'all enjoy being salty that this thing isn't what you want it to be tho.
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Anonymous 2018/02/01 09:14:43 No.1384522
Any updates?
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Anonymous 2018/02/01 23:47:03 No.1384831
File: NHNF_Pg099_L_u18chan.jpg - (573.84kb, 1717x2200, NHNF_Pg099_L.jpg)
>>1384522
Yeah sorry just got home from work


Looks like shit might be moving along..

From patreon:
>The timelapse begins! I wasn't entirely sure I'd be able to finish this page in time, but I made it @_@. The colours alone took 4 days. Now the race begins for next week... (✖﹏✖)
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 00:07:04 No.1384864
File: NHNF_Pg099_L_u18chanpoor_addy_u18chan.jpg - (23.27kb, 227x287, NHNF_Pg099_L_u18chanpoor_addy.jpg)
ayy. The "told you" is coming
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Wulfy 2018/02/02 01:14:31 No.1384903
Okay so I have 1 problem with this page and 1 problem with this story.

Page: Why is she embarrassed about the crow/raven or whatever? If the birds are known to have intelligence, how is affection (playfulness at least) viewed with such disdain?

Story: The only real argument against feral sex is essentially a lack of consent and the abuse of their brain. NOTE: I am removing religious arguments specifically cause I don't want to use something preachy but instead something we can generally agree to. In this world, the bird has intelligence. Why the fuck would people care about a bird romantically falling for an anthro? I understand there is some issue with it since she was afraid to confess and they alluded to some people, but it doesn't actually explain anything. Is it an in universe religious reason? I mean, without a "real bad side effect," I don't understand why its so bad.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:09:48 No.1384947
>>1384903

Likely it's a cultural taboo you're supposed to just take at face value without much explanation or basing. It's a stand-in for different ethnicities having relations being/having been a taboo in many cultures.

It's there so the comic can have some sort of a conflict and some drama over the PEOPLE DO NOT APPROVE OF OUR LOVE aspect. It's pretty obvious that Sefeiren isn't actually intrested in themes like taboo relationships and just wants some cheap drama.

I mean, I asked multiple times during this comic if the taboo thing mentioned in the introductory text had even come up, and I honestly don't think it had before they had their talk. Not even implicitly. And it would have been EASY to imply segregation if they'd tried at all.

Instead of, you know, feral birds and anthros (which is already a really specific, explicitly stated setup, obviously also only there because the main characters are those and Sef wants some cheap drama thrown in) living, working and generally functioning together without any other barriers.

I'd make a joke about retarded dogbird children, but sadly they already explicitly removed that possibility.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:18:15 No.1384957
>>1384903
I guess it's for the same reasons why homosexuals are persecuted sometimes in our world.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:20:13 No.1384958
>>1384947

Thinking about it, it's honestly pretty fucking weird how POINTEDLY out of place the forbidden love aspect is. This is a world where apparently EVERY anthro has a feral bird companion. Like, the panther lady might be the only anthro character we've seen who doesn't have a bird hanging around them. It's obviously a completely normal thing for birds and anthros to work together, cohabit and be in close physical contact.

This is also a world where both of these creatures are 100% sapient and completely capable of communicating, and their ideas of relationships don't seem to differ greatly. They're people in slightly different kinds of skins and there's no taboo over freely associating otherwise.

The premise of the story, that these two types of people would freely associate and that there even seems to be some sort of a norm for close association, and yet that relationships would be taboo and wrong, is fucking ludicrous and self-defeating.

Either the twist is going to be that everyone actually fucks and just acts like they don't (which would still be stupid, but hey), or this is the most forced fucking artificial piece of drama ever.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:28:49 No.1384960
I actually really like this page - it actually shows some good dynamics between them (even if it's the 'Montage' way of doing it) that we really haven't seen past friends+lust. Also shows the 'taboo' of anthro x feral in effect.

What I don't like is that it took almost a hundred pages to show something of this magnitude in the story. As many agree, there could easily have been more condensing of certain pages/panels and more expanding on these two as characters and their relationship outside of dialogue that explicitly explains everything. The story could have gotten to this point a lot sooner. That being said, I'm kind of looking forward to the next few sexless pages if they are similar to this one. My two cents
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:36:19 No.1384962
>>1384960

I mean, yeah. It would have been a whole lot more intresting if this comic had more pages where they actually showed instead of telling.

Like, since the whole spiel for this comic was these two trying to make their love work in a world where such relations are frowned upon, I would have expected at least some amount of demonstration and actually setting the story up with that.

Just scenes like them living together, people eyeing them up suspiciously, them wanting to do something with this, actually having some STAKES. It could have been an intresting story and it could have gotten people actually invested.

Instead, we get closer to a hundred pages where you literally could not parse that there's a forbidden love thing going on. For a comic that's apparently all about the story now, Sefeiren is handling the story really clumsily.

Hell, when we finally get to it, it turns out it's not actually even forbidden love. It's kind of frowned upon love, in a way that apparently doesn't actually stop you in any real way if you want to, and mostly gets you a few mean looks. As per the precedent.

I'm just kinda confused why it's handled like this when there's a lot of material that could actually have been used to tell a compelling story. With actual drama and stakes.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 02:48:49 No.1384968
>>1384962

Oh I totally agree. It threw me off in this page seeing how commonplace birds were, so much that nearly every background character has one perched on them in some way or another. It would have been much more impacting if Devon and Addy were almost an oddity - or even if it was one-sided like the birds were fine with it all but the anthros were against it.

I was just saying this was a quality page that I feel gave more toward the story than some previous ones and something like this is what I hope to see more of in terms of the "expanding on the characters" that sef is blueballing us with.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 03:30:52 No.1384991
Theres more context in 1 page than the already 98 leading to it.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 06:55:12 No.1385090
Aside from an unknown religious context, which hasn't been addressed in the comic, I guess the whole taboo about anthro/bird relationships might well be a parallel to homosexuality in our world.

Unless you're in a social restrictive country with ultra harsh laws on the matter, being gay/lesbian in public will usually only get you some evil looks by people who do not approve. But even though the more moderate societies are far more tolerant about it these days, it's still something that causes a lot of tension for the persons involved, both with themselves and relatives/friends - so I'm guessing that's the angle being taken here.

Having said that though, I agree that Sef could have done a better job of it. I don't see the drama as artificial, because I do see where they're coming from, but it doesn't feel put into the right context, if that makes any sense.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 09:22:18 No.1385173
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>>1384991
I feel so conflicted with this page. On one hand we are finally starting to get some information about the characters and why we should care about them and their relationship, but on the other hand it's happening about 90 pages later than it should have. It just stinks of a confused story direction, bad writing, and poor pacing.

Edited at 2018/02/02 09:23:17
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 15:00:55 No.1385264
>>1384831
So, are birds the "smartphone" of this universe?
For sending "tweets"?
What's the purpose otherwise?
I guess falling in love with an 'appliance" could be taboo...?
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 19:16:03 No.1385364
File: black-white-marriage-approval_u18chan.png - (19.65kb, 564x334, black-white-marriage-approval.png)
>>1384958
Then the parallel here would be interracial relationships.

>It's obviously a completely normal thing for birds and anthros to work together, cohabit and be in close physical contact.

Read: "[people with different races] to work together, cohabit"

>both of these creatures are 100% sapient and completely capable of communicating, and their ideas of relationships don't seem to differ greatly. They're people in slightly different kinds of skins and there's no taboo over freely associating otherwise.'

Yep, that's interracial relationships.

>and yet that relationships would be taboo and wrong, is fucking ludicrous and self-defeating.

pic related
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 19:16:34 No.1385365
>>1385173
To be fair to the artist/writer a printed comic could be over 100-200 pages long so technically speaking this isn't an unreasonable amount of build up. It all depends on how this all pans out when read from beginning to end when it's finished, not while it's being made. The only other issue is...was this what the patreons were promised...if not then they should threaten to stop supporting the artist for a breech of trust. those of us not supporting the artist via services like Patreon should wait till the comic's finished then, politely explain what exactly about this comic made us unwilling to support them, so that in future they can take the idea of this sort of comic discouraging people from supporting them into consideration, after all they want a regular influx of new supporters since there's always a few that go each month, with no promise of return.
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Anonymous 2018/02/02 23:23:29 No.1385468
>>1385365
The thing is that those 100-200 page comics usually have something going on with those pages, and just because other comics have a lot of pages does not excuse the padding and awkward pacing in this one. Just going over what we have now (I'm going to be generous and ignore pages that are just porn of which there are roughly 20) we have moved very little in terms of having a coherent story or developing any understanding of Devon and Addy or their relationship. All that we really know so far is that Devon is awkward and dorky and that Addy is more grounded and no nonsense and that they have worked together for a long time and that Addy has the hots for Devon. This in itself wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't delivered so incompetently. We have little to no inkling of the emotional weight of the situation or the storied history that the two characters may share or the greater societal ramifications that their relationship may have.
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Anonymous 2018/02/03 02:51:51 No.1385560
>>1385468

To go further into this, a printed comic is usually released either as one big chunk, or first in smaller issues. As with any type of entertainment, if it's any good, each separate smaller part is made in such a way that it's entertaining by itself AND when viewed as a larger whole. Each portion of the larger work is entertaining by itself and feels coherent without needing each other part to support it.

A more granulated example would be a webcomic, which is basically what NHNF is. Well written webcomics try to make it so that each page is entertaining by itself. It's meant to be served to the reader one page at a time, with many days or more between each page, so the creator really NEEDS to make sure his work functions as decent entertainment when enjoyed like that.

That's what makes people come back to them. You can read a page, be entertained and feel like that single page is worth reading by itself, AS WELL AS building expectations for the next one.

When you're doing any kind of creative work, you need to take into account how your work is going to be presented. That presentation and the medium you use to publish is a crucial part. You can't just release a long, 100+ comic that's planned as one big chunk as single pages. That's shoddy, amateurish writing.

It doesn't matter if it works better when it's all out. Sefeiren's audience is reading it now, one page per week. And when you present your work like that, and yet try to do it like it's all just one big chunk, you're actively working against your chosen medium.

Hell, we could also go into the fact that she's not really using these pages to really *build up* to anything, since most of them don't even build on what she's already done, just reiterate and circle around and around. But let's not, for now.

My point is, this comic's writing and design are poor just from a technical perspective. No craft, no understanding of the medium. Just a really clumsy, artless hackjob.
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Anonymous 2018/02/03 11:00:29 No.1385759
>>1385468
>>1385560
That's the consumers fault then. If this current format wasn't something that could turn a profit then artists wouldn't do it, because it does they will. We as consumers are supporting this type of story telling my supporting the artist as they publish this comic. Hence my suggestion on waiting till the comic is finished and released to the public, then we who aren't supporting the artist can honestly give our criticism without looking like we would never support the artist in the first place (which is the truth for a lot of people on here, not all but most). That's what I plan to do, but if I'm the only one then it's not going to change anything, if the artist realised that they lost 100-200 a month they could have earn't if it wasn't for this comic, they're more likely to change tactics. The only issue I'm having is realising how to word my complaint without coming across as a whiny, self-entitled brat. Any suggestions?
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Anonymous 2018/02/03 12:40:02 No.1385777
>>1385759
As far as I know, the only way to get your complaint through without passing as a "whiny self-entited brat" as you say is to have it be an actual complaint. Not some personnal demand about the work of the artist thrown into the air for no apparent reason about a comic that is obviously not for you but you still yet look into on a daily basis. But y'know, I might be wrong since that's what a lot of people seem to be doing.
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Anonymous 2018/02/03 17:01:34 No.1385830
>>1385777
Worst part about an anon board like this. It's very hard to find out what people's motives are for why they say what they say.

Personally, I feel discouraged by the pacing of the comic, as well as the character development, feeling not-present and taking too long to occur in newly introduced characters. If this is the kind of projects I would be funding by supporting the artist, when it feels that they artist intentionally mislead me (and others) about what this comic was going to be, seemingly dangling sex as it's main focus in front of us, then shifting gears to milk money from the supporters. That's how I feel anyway... see what I mean about coming across as a "whiny self-entitled brat"? i know my complaints aren't unfounded, I'm just struggling with the wording on how to not come across as such an ass. Communication has never been my strong suit.

But on the note this comic "not being for" me...this comic is free to view when the artist has content locked behind a paywall, meaning it kind of is for me. They're uploading it publicly, meaning it is for me, and you, and everyone on this board, and other sites. So your counter point is sort of moot, by the artist own actions. But I get where your coming from. if this comic was a Patreon exclusive, for the supporters over Patreon only, there's not much i could do to not make myself come across as a "whiny self-entitled brat", especially if the artist is taking against criticism.
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Anonymous 2018/02/03 19:26:02 No.1385893
>>1385830
When I said "not for you" I didn't mean it as in "Not publicly available for you or anyone" but as "Not reaching for a niche you're part of" and I didn't meant that as you specifically but "you" as a general term.
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Anonymous 2018/02/05 17:46:55 No.1387230
Everyone needs to chill. Yes, the story is hella slow, but once its completely done and you can read through it all in one sitting, you'll appreciate the build-up and dialogue.

Also, Sef only charges 1$ to get early access. She's remained consistent with her uploads (not easy at all) and has been pretty forward about the length. Ya'll wildin I swear.
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Anonymous 2018/02/07 14:21:48 No.1388210
File: 1518011853990_u18chan.jpg - (373.2kb, 1200x960, 1518011853990.jpg)
Behold, a wolf fucking a bird. Or the aftermath anyway.
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Anonymous 2018/02/07 18:05:24 No.1388258
>>1384831
When did Devon get a beer gut all of a sudden on the 2nd to last panel? o.O
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Anonymous 2018/02/08 05:07:28 No.1388515
His neck looks normal now, so no more giraffe wolf.
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 03:32:23 No.1389000
File: NHNF_Pg100_L_u18chan.jpg - (958.9kb, 1717x2200, NHNF_Pg100_L.jpg)
New page is cute af
Still no wolf dicc

from patreon:
>Winter is comin-- no wait, it's here! Page 100 - Phew~! I was pretty happy with Addison's expression in that last panel.
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 07:06:43 No.1389160
File: Screenshot_20180209-000238_01_u18chan.png - (899.98kb, 1080x925, Screenshot_20180209-000238_01.png)
>>1389000
Tfw you're 100 pages in and still no fucc

Edited at 2018/02/09 07:07:39
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 11:49:53 No.1389214
>>1389160
fuck 100 pages, it looks like its been literally at least half a year or more in the comic and they still havent fucked
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 13:56:14 No.1389233
The last 2 pages seem like a wide time skip, at least fall and winter has passed, meaning that after all that time of being an official "couple" is the actual first time he actually ask her to join him in bed.
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 15:52:10 No.1389253
>>1389214
For pages with quality and (actual) depth like these past two, no wolf dick/no sex is fine by me. Ten pages ago? COMPLETELY different story. Albeit yes, 100 pages to get to this point is still a tad bit excessive..

>>1389233
And it might not be a "first", it could just not be a regular occurrence. I'd imagine for birds to sleep on their back/side would be the equivalent of us sleeping straight up in a chair without reclining. Yeah, we could but I for one couldn't stand doing it every night. As for Addy's excitement...I get just as excited for cuddles even if it's not the first time lol
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Anonymous 2018/02/09 19:28:50 No.1389302
>>1389253
What story depth? Yeah the art looks good, but you don't need good art to have a good story. This story sucks ass. He fingers the shit out of her and NOW IS WHEN HE FEELS AWKWARD?!
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Anonymous 2018/02/11 04:26:25 No.1389951
>>1389302
>He fingers the shit out of her and NOW IS WHEN HE FEELS AWKWARD?!

Almost like they had to inject a forced sex scene just to make the rabid readers shut the fuck up for five seconds
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Anonymous 2018/02/11 07:24:50 No.1390054
I've heard of a slow burn but this is like throwing a lit match in a puddle of piss and expecting it to burst into flames.
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Anonymous 2018/02/11 14:38:13 No.1390125
>>1389951
its almost like it was set up to be sudden romance between the two as they cross the line together and realize their feelings for one another as love takes over in a steamy passionate night
>and then was dropped for no reason but to prolong the inevitable
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Anonymous 2018/02/11 19:40:07 No.1390235
The sole thing good or interesting about this comic is reading the spastics reeeeing "FUCK BIRB FUCK BIRB FUCK BIRB!" and the complete and utter retarded white knights reeeeing "I READ IT FOR THE ARTICLES ALSO PLZ FUCK ME ARTIST!"
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Anonymous 2018/02/12 03:11:13 No.1390443
>>1390235
That's what I come here for now too. If a page comes out, then great I get about 30 seconds of new material from the comic itself, but the vast majority of the entertainment from this comic so far is the comments from both sides.
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Anonymous 2018/02/13 09:41:54 No.1391198
File: huh_u18chan.png - (65.27kb, 1876x257, huh.PNG)
>>1390235
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Well Anonymous 2018/02/15 20:37:21 No.1392241
>>1391198
Enternet is a filtered word, but welcome to the slimey deapths of a porn comic
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Anonymous 2018/02/16 13:40:01 No.1392504
No new page?
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Anonymous 2018/02/16 16:41:56 No.1392545
Page 101 up!
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Anonymous 2018/02/16 17:11:32 No.1392556
File: NHNF_Pg101_L_u18chan.jpg - (984.83kb, 1717x2200, NHNF_Pg101_L.jpg)
New page
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Anonthemouse 2018/02/16 17:23:13 No.1392561
>>1392556
Next page: "the end"
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Anonymous 2018/02/16 20:38:23 No.1392618
Was this 3 page montage really needed though? The first give some indication of something happening, but the 3rd and gaurenteed 4th are literally only pandering!
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 04:09:10 No.1392805
File: 2018-02-17_01.04.55_u18chan.jpg - (332.34kb, 785x570, 2018-02-17_01.04.55.jpg)
Now I know what to do next time my cats bring a dead mouse or bird
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 05:36:44 No.1392831
>>1392561
Was hoping that happen...
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 08:25:28 No.1392868
So how nucelear will people go if this ends before they fuck?
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 11:59:17 No.1392916
File: NFG_u18chan.jpg - (35kb, 1200x630, NFG.jpg)
>>1392868
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 14:38:03 No.1392958
...and they lived happily ever after, some say she eventually got the bone that she so desired, others state that she got split in two fro the tip alone just like the wood he was cutting earlier, one thing i do know is..all you furries are more disappointed in this comic then your parents are in you.
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 15:52:10 No.1392998
I think the most regrettable thing about this time skip is that we missed their first time - isn't that the fun of a taboo coupling, seeing them figure it out? I mean, they're clearly bonking at this point right?
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Anonymous 2018/02/17 17:14:07 No.1393015
>>1392998
ofc they havent, I mean its been like three seasons according to the skips, autumn, winter then spring. The next part is them getting married then they will fuck xD thats how this shit is going, no sexy time before marriage or some shit
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Anonymous 2018/02/19 16:29:05 No.1393962
i almost /WANT/ it to end with no actual sex just to see how many gaskets will blow. xD
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 01:24:45 No.1395699
Double update boys!
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 02:37:32 No.1395721
File: NHNF_Pg102_L_u18chan.jpg - (1.09mb, 1717x2200, NHNF_Pg102_L.jpg)
>And second update for this week! Phew~! Gonna be honest, I wasn't sure if I was going to get both of these pages done in time. What a month to have only four Thursdays, but also the most complicated pages I've done so far @_@!

We're starting to slow the timelapse down a bit now - I was hoping to wrap up what happened on this page, but I couldn't quite make it work. So it'll have to wait until next week!
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 02:38:17 No.1395722
File: NHNF_Pg103_L_u18chan.jpg - (953.77kb, 1717x2200, NHNF_Pg103_L.jpg)
2nd page
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 03:09:57 No.1395728
>>1395721
This drama is so forced. We see all these people with their bird friends on their shoulders but with the eagle it's suddenly pissing people off. What's the deal with that?

And what the fuck is up with this montage? Is this before or after where the comic started? Why are we suddenly skipping through day after day 100 pages in?
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 03:53:10 No.1395749
>>1395728
I think the possum girl is mad because Addy drenched her too
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No Harm no Fowl? Anonymous 2018/02/23 04:11:14 No.1395757
Its another toy for herself.. probably something from Bad Dragon in the shape of a wolf cock.
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No Harm no Fowl? Anonymous 2018/02/23 04:11:44 No.1395758
Its another toy for herself.. probably something from Bad Dragon in the shape of a wolf cock.
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 09:30:01 No.1395831
>>1395722
Problably a surprise she doesen't want to show him yet.

I wonder what will be...

Edited at 2018/02/23 09:31:43
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 11:28:20 No.1395866
>>1395758
Your "toy" looks a lot like a rolled up magazine to me.
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 16:26:37 No.1395977
>>1395728
I think it's pretty clear that Sefeiren is an artist and not a writer at this point.
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Anonymous 2018/02/23 23:38:46 No.1396144
You guys think that maybe addy is just seeing things that aren't there? People always see what they want to see in others, even if it isn't conscious. I'm thinking that her floofing her wing over that possum chick is her acknowledging she's overthinking what others think of the relationship.
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Anonymous 2018/02/24 01:22:23 No.1396192
>>1395977

Otterface writes the story, posts across all accounts, and updates patreon. Sefeiren does the arting part.

Blame Otterface for not being able to write a short and sweet story.
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Maybe this'll help? Anonymous 2018/02/24 03:58:14 No.1396245
>>1396192
If that's truly the case then this idea might actually work in the written format, just not in the visual one. Like how some ideas look good on paper but when made into a comic, movie or video game they're terrible.

If that turns out to be the case then it's kind of sad that the downfall of this comic might in fact be the medium it's presented in.
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Anonymous 2018/02/24 08:54:20 No.1396354
I thought page 103 was pretty solid. Getting back to the original couple of pages, and moving the story along at a respectable pace.
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Anonymous 2018/02/25 06:46:37 No.1397010
Is no one going to bring up the fact that her De-Alarm system is remade to where she can access it from the bed instead of her perch. Meaning she's been in that bed more times then we know.
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Anonymous 2018/02/25 16:24:43 No.1397240
>>1396144
The thought did cross my mind, but I think it could be conveyed better if that's the case. I don't think it's the best way to visually represent paranoia and there should be more clues to suggest it's a fantasy. Like people have said, the stakes feel shallow if the taboo relationship only gets you a few nasty looks occasionally, and that's how the art is presenting the story. It also doesn't make sense to have people reacting like that in a world where virtually every anthro character has a bird companion.
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Anonymous 2018/03/01 23:27:53 No.1399609
File: NHNF_Pg104_u18chan.jpg - (356.75kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg104.jpg)
Looks like we're finally going somewhere boys
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Anonymous 2018/03/01 23:58:25 No.1399621
>>1399609
so... he IS gay then?
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 00:00:28 No.1399622
>>1399621
just kidding I see the bra now
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 02:39:38 No.1399677
>>1399609
Address is 'Cloverfield Lane'.
Neat.
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 03:10:31 No.1399692
>>1399609
Did he... got fat?

I don't remember seeing him with that pudgy belly
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 03:52:30 No.1399712
Am I the only one that would really like to see what kind of history these two characters have with each other? Like when the first met, or like the first job they had together or something, fucking anything. I'm having a really hard time connecting with these characters otherwise.
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 05:03:59 No.1399730
did they both buy dirty mags? Or are they both his?
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 05:04:31 No.1399731
Why did she swipe them in the first place?
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Anonymous2 2018/03/02 05:24:57 No.1399734
Oh my... He is gay. Maybe bisexual.

All in all, the letter may be a plot move or a MacGauffin
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 20:31:51 No.1400012
>>1399734
the dog on the cover has boobs

TIL boobs are gay
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 20:50:58 No.1400025
>>1399609
Have the pages gone small again or are my eyes fucking broken cause i can't see shit.
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Anonymous 2018/03/02 22:48:56 No.1400132
I think the point is she was expecting Devon to buy porn mags without Canines featured.

It shows that he's not interested in fucking birds yet, at least to her.
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Anonymous 2018/03/03 01:06:12 No.1400199
>>1399692
Actually yeah, I noticed that too, he wasn't that chubby on the first pages xD I mean, most of his job are physically active so it would make sense his physic, but I dont know, guess he just... got fat or, design variation?
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Z 2018/03/03 04:55:10 No.1400292
Even though their relationship is unorthodox I would say its unhealthy. Jealousy of that nature before sex? I would say wolf boy should run and hide.

I know its just a silly comic with the intent of stringing everyone along but there are... um, sexier ways of doing so.
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Anonymous 2018/03/03 17:46:13 No.1400486
>>1400199
He still has a hot bod IMO.
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Anonymous 2018/03/04 01:11:42 No.1400664
>>1399609
I'm still not 100% clear on what's going on on this page

She ordered a porno mag at the same time he did, and didn't expect to see his?
He ordered a porno mag featuring female birds?
She ordered a porno mag featuring female birds?
What?
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Anonymous 2018/03/04 04:16:59 No.1400730
>>1399609
I'm still not 100% clear on what's going on on this page

She ordered a porno mag at the same time he did, and didn't expect to see his?
He ordered a porno mag featuring female birds?
She ordered a porno mag featuring female birds?
What?

That doesn't look like a bird porno mag. More like a fetish catalog with things for birds such as lingerie/bondage equipment/ sex toys ect. While the other does look like a canine porno mag that he ordered. So probably she just wanted a sexy idea and ordered a catalog to get something naught to surprise him with.
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Anonymous 2018/03/04 07:14:25 No.1400806
>>1400730
She ordered a bird sex toy magazine. She took the mail so Devon couldn't see it. She found his porn mag and left it where he'd find it.
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Spike 2018/03/04 17:42:03 No.1400940
>>1400806
The Victoria's Secret for birds! XD
I also thought the page said it pretty much clearly what's going on there.
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Anonymous 2018/03/06 08:01:24 No.1401899
File: BIRDIS_u18chan.png - (864.04kb, 697x903, BIRD IS.png)
Sorry im late.
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Anonymous 2018/03/06 15:38:32 No.1402077
>>1401899
BIG EX DEE
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 03:01:48 No.1403885
Best part of this thread is the shitposts ;-;
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 03:39:20 No.1403899
File: NHNF_Pg105_u18chan.jpg - (347.03kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg105.jpg)
New page
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 03:49:56 No.1403905
File: J_Jonah_Jameson_laugh_u18chan.gif - (2.91mb, 330x190, J_Jonah_Jameson_laugh.gif)
>>1403899
>VHS porn
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 03:57:31 No.1403906
>>1403899

"VCL"
Nice reference from the old days
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 13:47:18 No.1404049
I'm looking forward to what it is
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Anonymous 2018/03/09 15:13:03 No.1404060
its gonna be how to have inter species sex safely or to set a sex kinda mood xD
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Anonymous 2018/03/10 09:42:09 No.1404422
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Anonymous 2018/03/11 22:20:30 No.1405010
>>1403899
Oh yeah, can't wait for that unedited "A New Hope" VHS where Han shoots first! Fuck Greedo!
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Anonymous 2018/03/12 13:50:31 No.1405266
>>1403899
What problem he is talking about? He fingered her with no issue last time, did he not get excited or something?
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Anonymous 2018/03/13 06:35:04 No.1405597
Either those will be boring documentaries of interspecies relationships that will take the next 20 pages, or hot sex flicks including fearl birds like Addy. (I really hope the latter one)
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Anonymous 2018/03/13 06:57:29 No.1405601
>>1403899
it's the star wars holiday special
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Anonymous 2018/03/13 07:06:58 No.1405602
>>1405266

It's an educational video about how to write a comic without boring everyone to tears.
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Anonymous 2018/03/13 19:45:27 No.1405738
It's a parody film: "Furry Fandom Civil War" about the shipping war between Team Emmery and Team Cooper due the comic "The internship"
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Anonymous 2018/03/14 11:08:40 No.1406132
Lol gonna get proper porn from other characters and not the main ones? Fucking sad really. 105 page in and all she's gotten is his fingers and her REALLY doesn't even seem interested. Do they even know how to write characters?
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BBGryphon 2018/03/14 16:52:28 No.1406267
>>1406132
I mean...their character writing seems better than your English.
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Anonymous 2018/03/14 20:09:02 No.1406347
>>1406267
Were you intentionally insulting the artist there, or did you just REALLY fail to think that one through?
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BBGryphon 2018/03/15 00:21:23 No.1406465
>>1406347
Yes...

I don't think when I come to porn sites. I just come to cum not think about the fact that a wolf is fingering a bird, or how I owe 12 grand in taxes.
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Anonymous 2018/03/15 04:18:59 No.1406541
File: LOLMAS_u18chan.png - (1.32mb, 936x1200, LOLMAS.png)
We already know
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Anonymous 2018/03/15 05:21:41 No.1406568
More
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Anonymous 2018/03/15 08:02:38 No.1406638
>>1406541
YOU CAN'T SEE HIM
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Anonymous 2018/03/15 19:35:27 No.1406838
File: NHNF_Pg106_u18chan.jpg - (420.78kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg106.jpg)
New page
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Anonymous 2018/03/15 22:19:36 No.1406892
It's either going to be videos of Addy as Devon being a voyeur, or some self-production video of himself he wanted to show to her.

...Or one actually of anthro/wolf and bird but you know, that's not as funny
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 00:08:31 No.1406929
>>1406838

lmao, subtle nod to lemon stealing whores
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 02:50:08 No.1406990
File: CherenkovRingonTVScreen_u18chan.jpg - (280.42kb, 1600x1064, Cherenkov Ring on TV Screen.jpg)
>>1406838
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 05:18:34 No.1407030
He's getting chunky
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 09:57:15 No.1407090
>>1407030
Got a problem with him getting thiccer or something?
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Anonthemouse 2018/03/16 13:49:42 No.1407127
>>1407090
I've got a problem with inconsistancy
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 14:49:31 No.1407134
>>1407090
>>1407127
I just have problems.
Ya know, In general.
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 16:06:01 No.1407152
File: waldrensyndrome_u18chan.png - (200.78kb, 883x202, waldrensyndrome.png)
>>1407030
Devon has a medical condition known as Waldren's Syndrome. In less than a year he will transform into a jolly, old, obese Great Dane.
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 17:33:42 No.1407175
>>1407127
Were you not aware that people are able to gain and lose weight with time?
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Anonthemouse 2018/03/16 18:52:18 No.1407214
>>1407175
Do you lose and gain 20kg between panels too?
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Anonymous 2018/03/16 23:39:50 No.1407326
File: andMAGIC_u18chan.png - (531.13kb, 1623x340, andMAGIC.png)
>>1407214
I don't think so, for two reasons;
1. He isn't a cartoon character, I doubt he can be in a panel in the first place, silly you~

2. Because, based on the picture of the left, there's a non-descript amount of time passing between panels.
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Anonymous 2018/03/17 02:34:24 No.1407394
>>1407152
Cooper fan detected!
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Anonymous 2018/03/22 22:54:08 No.1409981
File: NHNF_Pg107_u18chan.jpg - (284.58kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg107.jpg)
New page
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Anonymous 2018/03/22 23:42:33 No.1409999
next ten pages will be another fingering scenes and no birb sex.
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Anonymous 2018/03/22 23:51:05 No.1410030
I feel like the wait is even worse now that we're so close
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Anonymous 2018/03/23 00:19:27 No.1410055
Fuck the turkey, lad. It's the right thing to do.
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Anonymous 2018/03/23 08:05:20 No.1410165
>>1410030
its like doubly worse now because we're getting so close to the sex finally after all this time but its still taking absolutely fucking forever but at the same time its actually cute now so i dont mind it at much even if it doesnt justify the lengths it took to get to where its at now.
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Anonymous 2018/03/24 09:48:25 No.1410620
File: D2F59A03-6573-4684-A1F9-FE0C17FA00A7_u18chan.gif - (1.09mb, 400x224, D2F59A03-6573-4684-A1F9-FE0C17FA00A7.gif)
>>1409981
He puts a VCR tape into the laptop...really bitch
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Anonymous 2018/03/24 15:48:53 No.1410951
>>1410620
Well, there are VHS to PC adapter cables. But this was most likely an oversight from Sefeiren.
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Anonymous 2018/03/24 16:30:53 No.1410981
>>1410620
Well, there are VHS to PC adapter cables. But this was most likely an oversight from Sefeiren.

Or you know multiple copies of his "favorite movie". I know I have like 4 different versions of "Seven Samurai" around here somewhere on vhs,dvd, and one on my computer.
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Anonymous 2018/03/24 16:31:44 No.1410982
>>1410620
I don't think that's what he meant. I read it as he watched porns on his laptop. not VCR.
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Anonymous 2018/03/25 05:11:12 No.1411741
>>1410620

He never said he put the VCR in the computer. He said that the film currently in the VCR is one of his favorites. He also said it's stored on a hidden folder on the laptop. Presumably he picked up a hard copy to go along with all the other hard copies they are watching rather than break out the laptop for that one movie.
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Anonymous 2018/03/25 23:34:58 No.1412086
Oh boy more stalling. Let's wait for 5 more pages of pointless yaking.
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Anonymous 2018/03/26 04:25:57 No.1412174
File: MxqgAan9j1A_u18chan.jpg - (156.16kb, 1280x797, MxqgAan9j1A.jpg)
...
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Anonymous 2018/03/27 04:39:23 No.1412551
Addy is so adorable in just about every scene I don't even care anymore. I have tons of sources of porn. I only have one source for this frustrating, meandering romance.
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Anonymous 2018/03/27 17:51:34 No.1412771
>>1412551
Well put, and this is gonna be really fun to read as a whole when it's finished.
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Anonymous 2018/03/27 19:38:04 No.1412797
>>1406838
Lemon Stealing?! I got that ref!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mI407Uks4&has_verified=1
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Anonymous 2018/03/29 20:01:20 No.1413778
File: NHNF_Pg108_u18chan.jpg - (321.44kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg108.jpg)
Itshappening.jpg
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Anonymous 2018/03/29 21:14:24 No.1413960
With how this comic is written, we've only got twenty-six more pages before we see wolf cock!
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Anonymous 2018/03/29 22:07:19 No.1413998
>>1413960
32 actually your forgtting how ong itll take him to start and finish removing the clothing a whole 5 pages
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Anonymous 2018/03/29 22:08:32 No.1413999
>>1413960
That is if you don't count the 45 flashback pages about why this kind of anthro-feral relationship is considered bad. I'm pretty sure they are coming.
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Anonymous 2018/03/29 22:51:38 No.1414006
SEX
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Anonymous 2018/03/30 02:17:55 No.1414072
>>1413778
I'm going to put money down on it just being a sort of mutual masturbation thing, that or he's just going to let her watch him jerk off.
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Anonymous 2018/03/30 03:01:06 No.1414085
>>1414072
Or she'll get sad that Devon is masturbating to a non-bird and cry about how he doesn't really love her.
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Anonymous 2018/03/30 05:40:34 No.1414164
>>1414085

That's just fucking awful and garbage enough to be completely plausible.
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Anonymous 2018/03/30 10:07:29 No.1414253
Either he gets boner and she will use it or it doesnt happen and i get to read reactions to that, either way its a win
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Anonymous 2018/04/05 21:09:27 No.1417330
Hopefully we get to see some wolf dick tonight
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 02:53:53 No.1417437
>>1417330
agreed

time-wise, we're a bit overdue, but pages have been posted later than this (page 101 at 1:11 on Friday, eg) so I'm not worried
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 05:11:33 No.1417475
File: NHNF_Pg109_u18chan.jpg - (395.24kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg109.jpg)
>>1417330
Sorry buddy
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 05:37:07 No.1417490
A year and a half... and we are JUST getting close.... We want to see it too, addy... we want to see it too...
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 07:38:26 No.1417512
>>1417475

His expression is so fucked up in the last panel. It seriously looks like he's either going to start screaming or shitting himself in terror.

Besides that, what the fuck is this supposed to be, again? He initiated this and went all this way to get them to watch porn together. It's all on him. Yet he's surprised and shocked when there's even a suggestion that maybe they should actually do something.

Like what the fuck, you were knuckles deep in her earlier. You agreed to try and make something of this with her. Now you're freaking out over the fact she wants to see your dick, which she's made clear for the past year or so? After you actively put in the effort to facilitate this very situation? You a bitch.

Desmond's whole "awkward nice guy" persona feels so forced and contrived. It's not cute or endearing.
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 10:05:44 No.1417556
>>1417512

Agreed. There is some definite inconsistencies in the writing here as well. Way back when there was SOME action, Addy blurting out her feelings seemed too sudden and out of place, the fingerfest that happened was on pace though, then they have no physical interactions for a year in story (and in publication) which honestly seems too long for any relationship, then Devon makes the effort by putting on HIS porn, not anything with birds, and gets immaturely nervous when she wants to see his dick? This guy is seeming more and more, as stated, like a bitch. Let's also recall he has slept naked I'd assume several times to which he is not shy at all about covering up when he gets out of bed. It honestly would have felt more natural than this sequence of events if he just would have whipped it out and nonchalantly started stroking.

I've accepted the wait for sex in this comic, truly I have. I'm beside that. Was just hoping for some better story in the meantime but now that too seems to have faltered long ago and we all have held on long enough...

Edited at 2018/04/06 10:17:12
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 19:45:10 No.1417703
>>1417475
Small penis incoming
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 20:14:52 No.1417710
>>1417475
Show us his DICK!
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 21:00:42 No.1417721
File: NHNF_u18chan.jpg - (99.64kb, 360x1024, NHNF.jpg)
.
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Anonymous 2018/04/06 21:27:05 No.1417737
>>1417703
For how much lovely would be, there isn't a hint about Humiliation in this comic
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 00:26:01 No.1417834
page for untying the shorts
another for pulling them down
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 01:06:52 No.1417859
>>1417475
>>1417512
I agree with you about Devon's face, but for some reason something feels off about Addy's expressions as well, like they are too sincere, especially the middle and penultimate panel. In a way they feel almost too motherly or mature, like they don't match up with the potential excitement that she's going to finally see erect wolf-dick. I get that she doesn't want to scare him off at this point, but those aren't the faces I would expect for this kind of situation. Not to mention that her expression at the end of the page before seemed to show she was excited/embarrassed about what she's seeing, and then in the next page she's pretty calm, like these two pages don't keep her emotional state consistent. Maybe I'm just reading/seeing too much into this, but I just felt compelled to point it out.
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 01:42:31 No.1417868
I mean, I don't know about you all, but I'd probably be a bit nervous whipping my dick out around someone with 2 inch long talons, too.
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 01:54:50 No.1417880
>>1417868
If the comic put any consistent emphasis on its world building, and this was brought up beyond Addy accidentaly clawing Devon, this would be a very fair interpretation. But as the comic has failed to establish world-building, or tension, or conflict, or humour, or anything actually enganging at this point, I can only assume it’s padding in an attempt to make Devon look cute, and nothing else.

Is anybody else bothered by how this comic can’t seem to settle on a consistent aesthetic for its time period? The characters look like they come from a medieval fantasy setting, the place they live in has an overall rustic look to it, it’s a lonely place in the middle of a forest... and then suddenly they have vibrators, TVs, VCRs, and laptops, yet somehow still use mailbirds regularly instead of motorized vehicles, or bikes. It’s strange, and every time one of those things gets introduced, it feels really jarring because it clashes with the way Devon dresses and Addy’s whole job.

Speaking of world-building: how did this bonding between anthros and feral birds begind? What’s the logic behind it? Why the fuck is it taboo? Will we actualy explore a place beyond their house? Do they even care about answering any of those questions?

Edited at 2018/04/07 02:01:56
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 01:59:45 No.1417881
>>1417868
Devon should just man up and let Addy give him a Prince Albert, or go all the way and give him frenum piercings from top to bottom.
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Anonymous 2018/04/07 19:29:12 No.1418257
File: 1469787268810_u18chan.gif - (1.99mb, 396x240, 1469787268810.gif)
>>1417880
To answer your questions in order: we don't know; there is none; probably because it's inter-species or something, it's not explained very well; we have very briefly seen what the world looks like beyond their house during the amazing time lapse; no. Hope that helps.
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Anonymous 2018/04/11 00:03:43 No.1419645
>>1417475
Small penis incoming

NTTAWWT
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Anonthemouse 2018/04/11 00:53:48 No.1419654
>>1419645

Don't think so:
>>1203982
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Anonymous 2018/04/11 01:23:53 No.1419661
>>1417475

You've already admitted your feelings, and have been knuckle deep in the girl once. I think the time for bashfulness has passed~
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 02:44:29 No.1420437
New page
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 04:21:07 No.1420466
File: NHNF_Pg110_u18chan.jpg - (396.42kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg110.jpg)
Page
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 04:29:14 No.1420469
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 04:41:30 No.1420471
I like the art...but damn there is nothing to this writing
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 04:45:39 No.1420473
>>1420471

You know what? I'm gonna add to this and just say I'm going to rewrite this story for my own personal satisfaction. Partly because I know it could be written better, partly because I'm baffled at how invested I am in story potential of a porn (if it could still be called that) comic -_-
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Anonybadger 2018/04/13 04:56:39 No.1420477
From what I've seen on stream the next page after this is going to end up with Devon confidently getting ready to show her his nice red rocket with a seductive face. So hopefully...HOPEFULLY! That page will be the start of the next 20-30 pages of smut.
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 07:27:54 No.1420680
>confidently getting ready

Jesus fucking CHRIST she actually managed to drag this garbage out for ANOTHER FUCKING PAGE of nothing fucking happening?
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 08:50:38 No.1420735
>>1420466
next week will be him turning around and blushing
the next week will be him unbuttoning while we get a dramatic birdface
the next week we may or may not see something
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 09:16:47 No.1420736
What?! Devon, no! Don't turn the TV set off! It's our only source of porn!

Also, what's up with Addy's weird begging face. Seems out of character now. What happened to the Addy that just grabbed Devon and demanded oral?
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 11:19:42 No.1420791
This comic book could like, Be her portfolio to prove she has a disability case.
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 11:45:57 No.1420802
File: ZomboMeme13042018074538_u18chan.jpg - (28.63kb, 468x161, ZomboMeme 13042018074538.jpg)
I officially hate this comic
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 13:10:20 No.1420821
Gotta delay the comic as long as possible to get to that sweet-sweet patreon money.
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 14:17:40 No.1420834
>>1420802
Then go somewhere else? The nice thing about image boards is you can see quite clearly what you are getting into and avoid reading it.
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 14:19:32 No.1420835
Good God this is such a money grab.

>>1420736
And it does seem very out of character doesn't it
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 15:07:35 No.1420843
He's going to seductively blush next page for 3 panels, the page after that hes going to s l o w l y unbutton his pants. The page after THAT slowly reaching for his zipper.

Then. Finally.

The doorbell will ring and were going to be thrown into a different story regarding the random letter in his top drawer next to his porn.
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 15:33:14 No.1420854
File: mondieu_u18chan.gif - (497.52kb, 262x200, mon dieu.gif)
>>1420843
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Anonymous 2018/04/13 16:21:45 No.1420870
File: received_1758451900859867_u18chan.gif - (1.21mb, 245x180, received_1758451900859867.gif)
I wonder what will happen next. Maybe he will try to fuck the tv instead and delay the comic 60 more pages.
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Anonymous 2018/04/14 04:41:56 No.1421200
>>1420843

I literally hope that happens
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Anonymous 2018/04/14 08:18:17 No.1421245
I'm seriously considering pulling being a patron, this is ridiculous, he's drawing this out so much, it's not like he can't get on with it, finish it, and do other comics he's had on the back burner and others he needs to finish still.

It's a bit frustrating.
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Anonymous 2018/04/16 20:32:42 No.1422178
This is the most blatent cash grab I have ever seen. Over a year, 110 pages in and they still haven't fucked and people are just now considering pulling their funding? I don't know how they did it but they've somehow filled a bunch of people for this long. I'm not sure if I'm disgusted or impressed.
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Anonymous 2018/04/16 22:43:31 No.1422225
>>1422178
Someone know what do e621 people think about the comic and this topic? It has been a long time since a checked them and there are many comments now but a don't know the general opinion. Also I'm going to just assume that in FA are mostly positive
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Anonymous 2018/04/17 04:16:17 No.1422340
>>1422225
I originally kept up with it there, switched over to this thread a few months ago. Checking back in from after the late-night fingering, e621 comments are generally positive in nature, they seem to be enjoying the characters and story, no comments about the pacing or basically any negative comments about the story or the meta/creation of the comic. The few negatively voted comments are the ones saying that they are on pateron and that the latest page, usually 20 ahead of the pages on e621, and that there is still no sex. So basically if you like the story and want to make innocuous comments, you post on e621; if you don't care for certain aspects of the comic, you're posting here.

I suppose to give an example of the opinion of the comic on e621, here is a comment from page 79/ >>1330107 posted there (they are on page 93/ >>1368094 at the time of this post), that has a decent number of upvotes/likes and actually talks about their feelings about the comic in any depth, and isn't just a cute/joke comment about what is going on in that page, "i don't know about the others but what makes this comic work is that the focus is NOT about sex but the weird and super funny stuff that can happen (including the awkward situations) that make a relationship worth it... the artists/writers have captured the essence to what is missing from the world, and condenced it into something that is both hilariously entertaining and sexy as well...
something very few can actually accomplish whether in a book, a comic, a visual novel, movie, or show... there have been only 3 of these here on this site that have been worth reading out of the millions of pics/comics/art/smut that is e621 (not that there is anything wrong with any of it) but this has more than just porn which draws those who still have some humanity and brains left like moths to a flame that burns bright."

Edited at 2018/04/17 04:20:29
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Anonymous 2018/04/17 04:47:15 No.1422350
The slow pace at this part wouldn't be nearly as bad if it hadn't had dozens of pages of fucking nothing padding out the middle of the story. It's nice to build up tension before the smut starts but god damn when your entire story is nothing but "building tension" you get a hell of a fatigue.
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Anonymous 2018/04/17 22:01:34 No.1422638
File: 5GeorgeHarrison_u18chan.jpg - (19.62kb, 320x240, 5GeorgeHarrison.jpg)
>>1422340
Well what a nice community
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Anonymous 2018/04/17 22:42:28 No.1422651
Oh guys are both shallow and hilarious at the same time. That’s impressive.
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Anonymous 2018/04/19 15:52:25 No.1423296
It's thursday my dudes, who wants to place bets: wolf dick? disappointment? ...disappointing wolf dick?

But honestly, with the whole "confidently getting ready" statement from a previous poster, let's not get our hopes up for anything for another two pages at the earliest just to save ourselves from heated reactions..
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Anonymous 2018/04/19 21:08:59 No.1423401
but sef's been posting every friday in the morning ...
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 01:18:48 No.1423493
File: NHNF_Pg111_u18chan.jpg - (282.6kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg111.jpg)
new page
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 01:43:00 No.1423500
>>1423493
>leans back
>stares out the window
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 01:47:52 No.1423503
My God, Seiferen has done it...They found a way to delay nudity for one, maybe two weeks.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 01:55:25 No.1423509
>>1423493
I'm convinced the artist is just trolling everyone.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 02:16:04 No.1423518
File: angery-yoda_u18chan.jpg - (22.61kb, 750x673, angery-yoda.jpg)
amazing
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 02:18:03 No.1423521
+
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Anonthemouse 2018/04/20 02:25:33 No.1423529
>>1423503

This entire comic feels like a 2 year long april fools joke
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 03:17:32 No.1423545
>>1423529
This comic is literally the stale dad joke of furry porn.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 04:48:03 No.1423580
Spmeone called it preemptively, an entire psge that can be summed up to undoing the button on his pants
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 05:10:05 No.1423589
>>1423493
Just a reminder everyone, two pages before this he was visually freaking out
>>1417475
and know he's getting his sexy tease on like it ain't no thang.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 05:33:02 No.1423600
last panel
Omae wa mou shindeiru

Edited at 2018/04/20 05:34:11
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Spike 2018/04/20 06:17:34 No.1423607
>>1423589
It is understandable, he did a pause and a deep breath before the tease; He mentally prepared himself to do the cheesy act just for her.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 06:32:15 No.1423616
Don't worry, he'll be wearing undergarments so that the artist can drag this out ANOTHER two weeks for patreonbux.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 07:49:00 No.1423628
the artist can't troll us if don't come back.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 08:11:42 No.1423634
It could be worse... I thought he was wearing a belt....
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 09:00:35 No.1423651
>>1423607
While I hate the pacing, I also understand that trying to make sexual situations more humourous can help relieve the awkward tension and sex more fun. They say if you aren't enjoying it and having a laugh, you may not be doing it right.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 11:56:02 No.1423703
File: 1457235680257_u18chan.jpg - (48.21kb, 592x592, 1457235680257.jpg)
At this rate I'm expecting the impact of the sex scene to be the same regardless if you actually read everything leading up to it. (Minus the frustration and blue balls of course)
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 15:21:25 No.1423754
He's gonna stuff the turkey... this year's Thanksgiving ;)
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 20:12:38 No.1423878
File: joke_0_u18chan.jpg - (412.94kb, 624x800, joke.jpg)
Anyone remember when James Hardiman (RIP) Trolled the entire community into thinking he killed off the skunk sisters? only to show it was a Game at the end?

This (string the reader along) Bit has been done before. We are being trolled.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 20:34:46 No.1423891
>>1423878

Amusing that that pretentious garbage was the last comic he did.
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Anonymous 2018/04/20 20:48:22 No.1423897
Blame the writer, lol...
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Anonymous 2018/04/21 04:25:38 No.1424038
File: clap_0_u18chan.gif - (383.11kb, 500x386, clap.gif)
>>1423891
The fact that this comic is still going, and still has supporters is impressive to be completely honest.

People are paying to be trolled, I dunno how the artist pulled it off, but the evidence is pretty obvious.
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Anonymous 2018/04/21 20:03:53 No.1424284
>>1424038
> Insert "I don't like your taste and/or opinion so it must be troll" tumblr argument
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Anonymous 2018/04/22 04:20:53 No.1424509
>>1424284
That does not make it any less true however.
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Anonymous 2018/04/22 08:18:20 No.1424564
Haters need to lighten up. There's a million sources of porn out there. Come back in a month or two if the pace is too slow for you. I'm enjoying this, but then agin my philosophy is to accept, never expect.
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Anonymous 2018/04/22 14:13:25 No.1424664
>>1424564

>Come back in a month or two

Nigga we already tried that a YEAR AGO.
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Anonymous 2018/04/22 19:29:38 No.1424764
>>1424509
For that it would have to be a true statement to begin with, which it isn't.

Say what you want about the comic not fitting your criteria of reaching your expectations, but don't claim everyone's an idiot getting trolled by the artist, the people paying for it are just totally fine with the pace and price of the story, and only someone who can't fathom anyone being more patient, or having different demands would try to denigrate people this way rubbing themselves while thinking "herp derp people be dumb yo".
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Anonymous 2018/04/23 04:39:10 No.1424909
File: 1438756770356_u18chan.gif - (684.78kb, 500x500, 1438756770356.gif)
>>1424664
Then come check back in a year or two.
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cringemaster 2018/04/23 13:33:34 No.1425012
Suddenly she looks nervous... I guess this might be the first time she's actually seen his dick.
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ExtremelyStraightFox 2018/04/24 02:04:17 No.1425417
She has seen his sheath many times before... she's a lurker. But we asume she has never seen the nut
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Anonymous 2018/04/24 11:29:22 No.1425618
>>1424764
That's your opinion.
Thanks for sharing.
We think differently.
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Anonymous 2018/04/24 20:40:23 No.1425790
>>1425012
she is just triggered because there HAS to be some sex in the next pages, so Sefeiren cannot add 200 more pages of teasing anymore...
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Anonymous 2018/04/25 02:16:26 No.1425920
Let us all just agree to disagree
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Anonymous 2018/04/25 03:43:45 No.1425951
he has a baby penis
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Anonymous 2018/04/25 04:24:55 No.1425971
I want this to take even longer for no other reason so I can read the comments. Your suspense and desire for this and getting it denied is delicious.
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Anonymous 2018/04/25 07:22:03 No.1426023
File: NHNF_Pg111_0_u18chan.jpg - (636.22kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg111.jpg)
New page.
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Anonymous 2018/04/25 17:41:56 No.1426306
>>1426023
honestly with this comic I'd believe it
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lol Anonymous 2018/04/26 00:16:59 No.1426448
next 3 pages, he show her his penis, next 2 pages she grab it, next 5 pages she try to give him an blowjob or a clawjob, next page she hurt him with her beak or claws by the lack of sensitivity on that areas, and maive 20 to 30 pages he try to overcome the injures and the trauma
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 00:37:54 No.1426460
Once you pop, you can't stop
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:/ 2018/04/26 01:06:29 No.1426465
File: E73D4104-B543-47C3-8574-4B6B247BE6B3_u18chan.png - (4.01mb, 2386x1957, E73D4104-B543-47C3-8574-4B6B247BE6B3.png)
Btw we've already actually seen it so this crap is so dumb. Because a bonus page still has more on the actual comic after being posted for so long.
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 03:54:48 No.1426537
>>1426023

oh thank god the edits are back!
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 16:32:47 No.1426772
>>1426465
I'm legitimately curios, anatomically speaking, the urethra where the semen comes out have to be at the tip of the canine penis or at the center like this image?
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 18:26:33 No.1426835
>>1426772

It's in the center. The dick is drawn very weirdly in that image though, like some sort of a hybrid between human and canine. A canine penis doesn't have a bulbous tip like that, and the pointed tip doesn't work like that either.
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 19:30:17 No.1426890
Looks like the artist didn't do their homework like every other mistaken artist.
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 19:30:19 No.1426891
>>1426835
It's kinda like the shape of a dick in a condom, if the reservoir at the end were shifted off center
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Anonymous 2018/04/26 19:37:48 No.1426898
>>1426772
No, semen is supposed to come out of the tip of a canine penis. There's naturally a dimple there, but the urethral opening is most certainly on very tip of it.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 01:30:01 No.1427115
double update this week everybody
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ExtremelyStraightFox 2018/04/27 01:37:22 No.1427116
>>1427115

Theres just one update in the patreon
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 01:44:01 No.1427118
File: NHNF_Pg112_u18chan.jpg - (273.36kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg112.jpg)
hmmm
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ExtremelyStraightFox 2018/04/27 01:47:14 No.1427120
>>1427118
Nice. Have fun boys, i'll be back next year until something actually happens o/

Seriously, it took an entire month to go from arousal to a "gulp".

Edited at 2018/04/27 01:50:16
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 01:52:10 No.1427123
>>1427116
caption posted with the image: "Double update this week starts of with.. DOUBLE DICKS?!"
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ExtremelyStraightFox 2018/04/27 01:53:36 No.1427125
>>1427123
ohhhhboy!!!
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 03:16:07 No.1427161
Fuck
I have to wait another week. Time to zip the pants back up.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 03:54:29 No.1427187
starting to get anxious about the double update; the last time a double update happened - ie Feb 22, with pages 102 & 103 - the two pages went up only seven minutes apart

I sure hope sef didn't post the first page of this update while some work still had to be done for the second page
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 04:03:03 No.1427189
>>1427187
also, sef has commented on the patreon about 40 minutes ago, so sef is definitely still online

:big_think:
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 05:30:49 No.1427229
Second page has been posted. Glorious.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 05:56:16 No.1427253
File: NHNF_Pg113_u18chan.jpg - (206.79kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg113.jpg)
Hmmmmmm
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 06:35:00 No.1427264
>>1426890
If you'd bother to look on FA you'd see the urethra placement was fixed, dingus.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 06:50:33 No.1427266
File: itshappening_u18chan.gif - (972.92kb, 312x213, itshappening.gif)
>>1427253
Hopefully it happens sooner rather than later
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 06:54:16 No.1427268
>>1427266
I wish i still cared.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 07:12:38 No.1427271
The way this is happening feels weird and unnatural now. Can we slow it down and go back to awkward teasing and innuendo? :P
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 11:27:11 No.1427341
File: oiUh5_u18chan.png - (138.37kb, 349x415, oiUh5.png)
> IT BEGINS
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 12:00:09 No.1427372
>>1427264
This implies I'd have a need to go on FA when pages are delayed way too long between posting. Fuck off.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 16:13:04 No.1427439
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 16:24:23 No.1427445
Once everyone caught on and started calling the artist a troll, THEN we get a dick pic?

To convenient.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 16:25:58 No.1427446
Also i wanted to add, I bet the power goes out in the next page, and they have to go get candles, and then talk more for 6 months

Edited at 2018/04/27 16:26:30
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 17:05:04 No.1427459
It just occurred to me that Devon seems to have lost his paunch once he got off the couch. Maybe he was just puffing his gut out to make Addy find him unattractive, but since it didn't work, he just gave up and defaulted back to his sexy body.
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 18:40:54 No.1427538
>>1427118
>>1427253

Same message for Devon!
>>1426091
(It's a pity he's straight...XD. That ass!)
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Anonymous 2018/04/27 21:32:16 No.1427618
i thought she'd suddenly redesigned him to have pins in his shoulders at first haha
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No harm no fowl? Angelo chiong 2018/04/28 21:25:57 No.1428092
Any idea why the comic kinda poofed from u18? Had been being updated pretty fast by a contributor or two
Yeah
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Anonymous 2018/04/28 22:14:13 No.1428118
That last second-to-last panel on 112 is hilarious to me for some reason. Dem eyes.
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Anonymous 2018/04/29 01:32:38 No.1428165
inb4 hes still uncomfortable about fucking her because of the size difference and instead we get a mutual masturbation scene because addy will take whatever she can get at this point and have to wait another 3 months as he draws out an entire day of them both waiting in anticipation for the night while they work followed by a compilation of them masturbating together every night and then another fucking long ass arc about them FINALLY getting to the fucking by the year 2019
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An anon 2018/04/29 05:31:01 No.1428227
Hot off the press, anonymous sources have confirmed that the rest of 2018 is his year, 2019 is her year and by 2020 we should expect mutual satisfaction.
Starting 2021 we might engage in a bout of prelude for sexual intercourse. 2022 will definitely be an awaited year where sexual gratification will occur.
I can't wait for the decade ahead ! /s
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 00:40:25 No.1430351
Anxiously waiting to see what's gonna happen next
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ExtremelyStraightFox 2018/05/04 03:49:24 No.1430389
New page!
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 04:03:05 No.1430394
File: NHNF_Pg114_u18chan.jpg - (309.69kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg114.jpg)
Here
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 04:19:22 No.1430401
>>1430394
shfshfshfshfSHFSHFSHFSHFSHFSHFSHF
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 04:38:43 No.1430406
>>1430394

Addy, last panel: "I want it...inside me..."
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 04:43:30 No.1430407
>>1430394

The snotty fucker in me immediately thinks "Welp, no oral, or if there is, it will end badly...Please proceed!"
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Wulfy 2018/05/04 05:58:14 No.1430432
>>1430394
I think everyone wants to suck his dick. >.>
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 06:07:44 No.1430444
>>1430394
just gonna say that the camera-focus effect in panel 3 is pretty great
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 07:45:56 No.1430473
I say, Sefairen did their homework on doggy anatomy... I love the way the cock looks.
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 10:21:57 No.1430505
>>1430394
>Saint Are
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Anonthemouse 2018/05/04 11:17:01 No.1430513
>>1430473

I'm willing to bet the cum will still come out the middle of his cock instead of the tip
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 11:21:49 No.1430518
I mean...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpQlymI4ZQ
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 12:14:32 No.1430538
File: intensifier_u18chan.gif - (85.8kb, 219x169, intensifier.gif)
>>1430394
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 13:02:06 No.1430560
File: Nervous_u18chan.gif - (1.51mb, 334x446, Nervous.gif)
>>1430394
OMG!! Finally!! Nude Wolf!! Wolf dick!! He's so hot!!
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 13:43:59 No.1430573
>>1430513

Let us pray not!
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 13:52:38 No.1430574
I'd request the admins to purge the whole discussion up until the last page and leave only the pages. This thread has become so long it takes up to 5 minutes to render it whole for my phone :P
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Anonymous 2018/05/04 14:20:32 No.1430584
>>1430574
You mean... the reason why the fap mode button was implemented?
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Anonthemouse 2018/05/04 15:23:15 No.1430601
>>1430574

That's what fap mode is for. Also, get a new phone. It takes mine 10 seconds tops to load it all in
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Anonymous 2018/05/05 20:02:22 No.1431196
Haha, I mean, I'm happy it's finally here, but how has she never seen this dog's bone? They sleep in the same room, and he sleeps NAKED. I wake up with boners all the time, and you can bet if there was a bird in the same room who I knew had the hots for me (and I'd ravaged in the past) I'd let her go to town on it.

But whatever, just happy porn is happening.
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Anonymous 2018/05/06 03:46:42 No.1431355
that seat is SOAKED
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Anonymous 2018/05/06 13:13:49 No.1431469
>>1430518
OMG, I was not ready for that video and those sounds. My sides....
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Anonymous 2018/05/07 00:44:21 No.1431719
>>1430394
She about to pounce
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Anonymous 2018/05/07 01:27:13 No.1431746
Where did you get this pages? And what is the date of the next update?
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Anonymous 2018/05/07 06:45:23 No.1431843
>>1427253
>>1430394
This is really hotter and cuter than I expected :) :)
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Anonymous 2018/05/08 01:00:08 No.1432208
>>1431746
I get the pages from sefeiren's patreon. Updates are on Thursdays
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Anonymous 2018/05/08 02:40:31 No.1432234
>>1427118
>>1427253
Well no tiny dick for us I guess
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Prokura 2018/05/08 10:01:14 No.1432382
>>1430538
hahaha XD nice job

this comic is just getting better and better

Edited at 2018/05/08 10:01:34
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Anonymous 2018/05/09 19:08:08 No.1432907
Update?
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Anonymous 2018/05/09 19:29:53 No.1432913
where
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Anonymous 2018/05/10 21:03:23 No.1433343
File: fixed_1_u18chan.png - (783.86kb, 936x1200, fixed.png)
I have to say, even though we now see wulf dik, there are still way too many unneeded panels. Lemme show you how the exact same message is shown with less panels.
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Anonymous 2018/05/10 22:03:47 No.1433365
File: NHNF_Pg115_u18chan.jpg - (304.77kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg115.jpg)
YEET

>>1432907
Calm down ok?
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Anonymous 2018/05/10 22:05:35 No.1433366
Anyone else bothered that a lot of these updates have really bad jpg artifacts going on
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Anonymous 2018/05/10 23:58:40 No.1433396
ah yes, now the sex has started its 3 panels per comic page and little to nothing happens each week. excellent
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Anonymous 2018/05/11 03:41:46 No.1433493
Considering what happened before to his ear, who sees the claws on his leg as being a boner killer and we get another 20 pages of him trying to get it up?
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Anonymous 2018/05/11 05:50:33 No.1433558
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
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Anonymous 2018/05/11 15:11:54 No.1433688
How can he stay all hard with all that nervouseness and evidently being scared?!
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Anonymous 2018/05/11 20:22:12 No.1433809
>>1433558
Aw. Don't stop. Continue.
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Anonymous 2018/05/14 03:57:08 No.1435317
updates
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Anonymous 2018/05/14 19:16:40 No.1435726
>>1433365
She just Slided into his DMs
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Anonymous 2018/05/14 23:10:39 No.1435865
>>1433688
Fear boner? Adrenaline can do that for folks at times.

Edited at 2018/05/15 09:06:27
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Anonymous 2018/05/15 03:45:12 No.1436061
updare
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Anonymous 2018/05/15 04:12:56 No.1436089
To the person just randomly saying "update?" - every Thursday. If it happens to be later it's because the glorious being feeding us the pages was busy.
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Anonthemouse 2018/05/15 10:46:22 No.1436217
>>1436089
I swear it's the same guy on every thread
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Anonymous 2018/05/16 00:12:18 No.1436377
>>1436089
Hi I've been the one posting updates most Thursdays lately. Some times I'm busy when a page gets posted and some times it doesn't show up on patreon until 1-2 AM the next day (Eastern Time)

But yeah fuck the guy spamming "update" every week.
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Anonymous 2018/05/16 20:18:50 No.1436651
>>1436377
You sir are a hero
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 11:10:57 No.1436859
UPdates
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 21:12:16 No.1437014
File: NHNF_Pg116_u18chan.jpg - (359.8kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg116.jpg)
Here's an update from you're friendly neighborhood sharefag.

>>1436859
Shut ur whore mouth
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 21:28:41 No.1437018
>>1437014

bless this sharefag
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 21:45:41 No.1437023
>>1437014

With so much stress, he'd be soft in seconds.
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 22:29:38 No.1437037
>Love that birdface tbh
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Anonymous 2018/05/17 22:55:44 No.1437045
>>1437023
Considering canine anatomy, with both the penis bone and the knot, he couldn't go soft if he wanted to.
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 03:08:49 No.1437105
Ewww, shes putting her dirty smelly feet on it!

<333
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 03:16:40 No.1437106
A HAND JOB? THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS INTENSE SEX IS LEADING UP TO (video)?! JUST FUCK THE BIRD!!!!!
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 03:34:43 No.1437111
>>1437106
Well, All he did was finger her before, so my bet is she gives him a handy, then we go back to another year of filler.
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 04:20:53 No.1437125
>>1437106
The handjob is obviously buildup, don't be dumb. The bird is getting the dick here for sure.
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 07:47:24 No.1437169
File: Screenshot_20180518-094554_u18chan.jpg - (194.92kb, 833x503, Screenshot_20180518-094554.jpg)
Finaly u showed us your penis!

Edited at 2018/05/18 07:50:09
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 11:34:05 No.1437210
>>1437106
Ya see, there's this thing we do before sex called "Foreplay". Your tiny brain might not have heard of it until now.
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Derp 2018/05/18 14:47:00 No.1437248
Don't know who is more of a fucking retard...

The one spamming "Update", or the one spamming "Fuck the Bird!"
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Anonymous 2018/05/18 15:16:14 No.1437251
>>1437248
or the one saying "Tie the knot"
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Anonymous 2018/05/20 13:35:05 No.1438508
I vote for no sex because reading the comments demanding it are far more entertaining.
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Anonymous 2018/05/24 15:40:19 No.1440671
I'm entitled to birb sex! right nao! >:(
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Anonymous 2018/05/24 18:39:23 No.1440720
I don't think it'll be right now. At the rate it's going, Luffy will become the Pirate King before these two consummate their burning passion.
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Anonymous 2018/05/24 18:40:16 No.1440721
>>1440671

The only thing you are "entitled" to is the air you're breathing which, assuming you talk like how you comment, is probably still a waste. Cool your jets.
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 01:54:18 No.1440873
File: NHNF_Pg117_u18chan.jpg - (300.99kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg117.jpg)
y'all need to chill
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 01:56:07 No.1440874
File: S1cNPsmpsC-LRXVE1QE0su52BCOwIjUSpna9g5K9YkCtwJt5bF8PBqXkllhStjPB_u18chan.jpg - (416.76kb, 936x1200, S1cNPsmpsC-LRXVE1QE0su52BCOwIjUSpna9g5K9YkCtwJt5bF8PBqXkllhStjPB.jpg)
This looks like it may be a better version
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 02:11:08 No.1440878
is that M A X I M U M P E E N ?

Edited at 2018/05/25 02:15:08
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 03:30:04 No.1440900
My thinking is that the reason he seems so shy now, after all that back in the 40s and 50s, is because he now realizes that there are some knives on the other end of that birb, and they are currently feeling up his crotch
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 04:36:07 No.1440918
Oh my gawd. Sefeiren actually did the urethra in the anatomically correct place. Bless them! I love it !!!
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 05:58:56 No.1440947
I find it funny that this thread is over 1000 posts, despite there only being 117 pages
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 06:02:17 No.1440950
File: nhnf-conspiracy-theory_u18chan.png - (258.2kb, 547x362, nhnf-conspiracy-theory.png)
I have a conspiracy theory - why is the number of claws on her feet different

sure doesn't look like one of them is being hidden behind the dick
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 07:39:08 No.1440979
>>1440950
Nigga that ain't a conspiracy theory when you don't provide an explanation.
Sef is just an inconsistent artist.
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 07:46:54 No.1440983
File: thewayiseeit_u18chan.png - (1.13mb, 1094x724, the way i see it.png)
>>1440950
i feel like her bottom claws are either resting underneath his knot or on her other foot or something so she doesnt scratch up his dick.
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 12:36:15 No.1441107
File: vAhY8DhEvdw_u18chan.jpg - (123.73kb, 1131x735, vAhY8DhEvdw.jpg)
?
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 14:22:32 No.1441126
calling it now, he is gonna cum on her feathers and she is gonna be angry and go to wash herself.
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Phibelus 2018/05/25 14:43:43 No.1441129
WTF what is the thing in her imagination?
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Anony 2018/05/25 16:32:08 No.1441150
>>1441129
Check >>1175164
Great Scott, that bone will split the birb in half.

Edited at 2018/05/25 16:33:24
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 17:59:49 No.1441205
these comments are always so good. Are you guys seriously obsessing about where the claws are though lol
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 18:21:48 No.1441221
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 20:13:50 No.1441285
The missing claw on her right foot should be on the head of his dick, not stabbing the back of the knot
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Anonymous 2018/05/25 21:17:00 No.1441310
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Anonymous 2018/05/31 15:45:03 No.1444565
NEXT PAGE!!!!!!!
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Anonymous 2018/05/31 18:00:06 No.1444621
>>1444565
Bitch, shut it
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Anonymous 2018/05/31 21:26:39 No.1444777
File: c5BdxO8ToOqLbAEgfUnMwhaTSNm_7QdjvcnnfwBUD5OV6-7FZrbGfyaRayQIfGbS_u18chan.jpg - (449.41kb, 936x1200, c5BdxO8ToOqLbAEgfUnMwhaTSNm_7QdjvcnnfwBUD5OV6-7FZrbGfyaRayQIfGbS.jpg)
I was about to play some Rocket League but I remembered I like you guys and I should post the new page before getting distracted.

>>1444565
no u
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Anonymous 2018/06/01 01:51:51 No.1444844
Huzzah! And then he grabbed her and rammed her onto his member again and again, like she was a fleshlight. .... What? I can dream.
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Anonymous 2018/06/01 03:40:14 No.1444898
>>1444844

And then she died from massive internal bleeding?
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Anonymous 2018/06/01 06:35:14 No.1444957
>>1444898

> furry physiology
> internal bleedin
kek
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Anony 2018/06/01 09:51:38 No.1444991
>>1444957
Let's spit on the nonbeliever, he has not heard of otter space.
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Anonymous 2018/06/01 16:49:42 No.1445112
>>1444777
Neat little detail Sef did making the knot sensitive to the touch, with his leg twitching and everything. Really like when artists do smaller stuff like that.
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Anonymous 2018/06/07 22:55:15 No.1448186
File: ejNoTX9AIPbOgG-tHZGRPSnvpg3l3yZfAfcaWTd4w79WPnQ1sa1DMRS7-sxg3rLr_u18chan.jpg - (425.94kb, 936x1200, ejNoTX9AIPbOgG-tHZGRPSnvpg3l3yZfAfcaWTd4w79WPnQ1sa1DMRS7-sxg3rLr.jpg)
update
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Anonymous 2018/06/08 00:39:53 No.1448250
File: j3uiur3hfj23_u18chan.png - (194.34kb, 371x332, j3uiur3hfj23.png)
>>1448186
Think she'll be fine, buddy.
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Anonymous 2018/06/08 02:58:13 No.1448285
File: 1221_u18chan.png - (63.96kb, 268x200, 122[1].png)
Most people are there for porn and bird fucking, I find it absolutely... weird to say the least and I enjoy the non-porn parts of the comic, unlike 90% of people here that would crucify the author. Now though...
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Anonymous 2018/06/08 03:38:14 No.1448308
>>1448285
I love porn that actually tries to have a decent story. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, just enough to make you care a bit more about the characters and my dick is like 50% harder.
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Anonymous 2018/06/08 05:12:24 No.1448334
>>1448285
I also enjoy the slow relationship buildup ect. I prefer this type of comic over the whole sex on a very early page or so frequently that you usually see.

Though now that I can see a wolf dick getting a talonjob I am feeling impatient.
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Anonymous 2018/06/08 09:47:24 No.1448416
File: worried-dog-meme-generator-should-i-be-worried-i-m-a-little-worried-7bb8b5_u18chan.jpg - (45.09kb, 510x383, worried-dog-meme-generator-should-i-be-worried-i-m-a-little-worried-7bb8b5.jpg)
>>1448334
I still can't get past worried. The amount of potential force behind those claws is too great, and I do not trust Addy's history enough to be remotely aroused.
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Anonymous 2018/06/09 03:21:23 No.1448750
I know it's a bit late to ask now, but is he getting a footjob or a handjob from Addy? Cause a talon is a foot for a bird but it's technically also her hands since she picks stuff up with them

Or do we make a new sexual 'job' term?
Talonjob- the act of getting sexual favors from a birds talons. Be careful!
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Anonymous 2018/06/09 15:47:33 No.1448966
>>1448750
its a footjob, regardless if she uses her feet as her hands since she lacks them.
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Anonymous 2018/06/10 19:14:03 No.1449722
>>1448750
foot job. The anatomically homologous appendage to an arm and hand would be her wing
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Anonymous 2018/06/11 05:11:11 No.1449953
>>1449722
You just made me realize...wingjobs should TOTALLY be a thing
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Anony 2018/06/14 21:11:59 No.1452100
Prepare the talons.
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 03:52:00 No.1452396
NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE NEW PAGE
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 03:53:34 No.1452399
POST THE NEW PAGE YOU PLEBEIANS!
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 04:15:36 No.1452412
>>1452399
>>1452396
Calm down folks. If you're so excited to see the pages, you all can pay for them.

They'll get posted soon. I'm just grateful I can see them here.
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 04:20:01 No.1452416
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 04:21:50 No.1452419
I'm only interested if she uses her tongue on him.
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 04:29:04 No.1452425
To what's likely the same dude who happens to have their keyboard caps button broken. If you're the only one freaking out, chances are you probably shouldn't be freaking out so chill and be patient
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 08:41:13 No.1452508
everyone is waiting, when will our hero appear who will save us from waiting?
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Deadpool 2018/06/15 12:50:33 No.1452573
File: NHNF_Pg119_u18chan.jpg - (425.89kb, 936x1200, NHNF_Pg119.jpg)
The hero is here to save a Day full of happy fapping, enjoy and greetings from the friendly Deadpool from the Neighbourehood
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 12:57:37 No.1452576
>>1452573
That is the same page as previously. This isn't the new page ;_;
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 13:32:29 No.1452585
>>1452573
At least you tried

Edited at 2018/06/15 13:33:00
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Anonymous 2018/06/15 17:43:49 No.1452670
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That was a dollar, I hope you appreciate it
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Advarious 2018/06/15 21:19:43 No.1452756
>>1452670

Not bad, but the most satisfying thing I ever did with one dollar was buy a game.

With zombies in it.
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Anonymous 2018/06/16 00:11:01 No.1452814
>>1452670
higher res pls?
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Anonymous 2018/06/16 04:59:37 No.1452911
>>1452756

Classic 360 Arcade game
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Anonymous 2018/06/16 06:04:51 No.1452955
Thanks for the new page, as always.

Now how about that beak-job, bird?
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Anonymous 2018/06/16 23:57:23 No.1453316
I'm imagining her nest being really stinky, since thats what she uses it for :P
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Anonymous 2018/06/17 22:51:37 No.1453787
>>1453316
A lot of bird nest stink a lot. I used to work in a bird and animal park and yes i can confirm that bird cloacas aquire some taste.
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Anonymous 2018/06/18 02:15:51 No.1453880
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>>1452670
Thanks for the post random dude. Sorry guys I was out of town for this update. Heres a higher rez from patreon
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Anonymous 2018/06/18 15:40:18 No.1454057
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>>1453787
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Anonymous 2018/06/20 01:26:46 No.1454713
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>>1453787
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Anonymous 2018/06/20 02:00:05 No.1454726
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>>1453787
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Anonymous 2018/06/20 10:28:50 No.1454852
FUCK THE BIRD ALREADY
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Anonymous 2018/06/20 21:58:54 No.1455041
>>1454852
Shut up man. Seriously, there's always someone doing this.

It's like people don't know foreplay happens before the sex or something.

Edited at 2018/06/20 22:00:20
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Anonymous 2018/06/21 00:16:57 No.1455086
>>1455041
Ughhh, I know right. People who want just porn don't understand the adorable awkward tenderness that is this comic's appeal. That takes more pages to build up to, versus the quickies devoid of passion.
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Anonymous 2018/06/21 06:13:51 No.1455203
>>1455086
>>1455041


IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS FUCK THE BIRD
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Anonymous 2018/06/21 11:25:11 No.1455285
lmao adorable awkward tenderness? It's one artist dragging out the comic for as long as possible. nothing adorable or tender about it. I understand that pushing past the buildup and getting straight into the sex would ruin the comic completely. but dont sugar coat what it really is, which is someone trying to milk as much money as possible from one thing before inevitably repeating the process with a new set of characters
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Page 121 Uopta 2018/06/21 22:22:02 No.1455458
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Stop crying! New page :)
Sefeiren: "So... meaty? Tantalizing? Musky? Enticing?!

Double update next week!"
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Anonymous 2018/06/22 02:27:41 No.1455557
Minor nitpick, but her body as disappeared and her legs are coming out of her shoulders.
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Gerfur 2018/06/22 04:50:22 No.1455599
>>1455458
Warm and soft.
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Anonymous 2018/06/22 08:51:42 No.1455661
>>1455458
Jesus, what a pointless page. It's literally just repeating the previous page but with different words.
This comic would be done already if Seiferen would cut out all the filler like this.
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Anonymous 2018/06/25 08:57:43 No.1457101
>>1455557

thanks a lot, now I cant unsee lol
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Anonymous 2018/06/26 21:15:58 No.1457839
How the fuck is this comic still going on? I mean, who the fuck is actually still reading this crap? Christ, this thing needed an editor so BAD.
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Anonymous 2018/06/26 23:24:44 No.1457914
Say what you want guys, but people still eat this up on e621. I still eat it up, so I respect your opinion if you hate it. But the fact is that this comic is still nice to look at, is finally getting to the good stuff, and still has a following after this long can't be denied.
The exact same went for Family Matters. Yes it got to the point faster with little story, but if Set wanted to go a different direction with this comic that's their decision. Even then that comic stretched for two to three years with no said schedule.
So you can still hate this comic, but it has feats you can't deny.
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Anonymous 2018/06/27 03:23:16 No.1458045
Do we not remember how family matters played out? That took fucking ages. Much easier to milk one set of characters for nearly a year than make decent content. I dropped this comic for two months and i came back and it still hadnt progressed any further.
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Anonthemouse 2018/06/27 11:50:48 No.1458192
>>1458045
I didn't check it for a year and I still didn't miss anything
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Anonymous 2018/06/28 15:17:23 No.1458780
For how long we've had to wait that birb better be deepthroating that dick next page
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Anonymous 2018/06/28 18:27:28 No.1458835
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>>1458780
Haha nope
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Page 122 Uopta 2018/06/28 18:27:37 No.1458836
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"The first of this weeks double update!"
Second page coming later
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Anonymous 2018/06/28 19:04:27 No.1458846
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"Second update this week. You gotta be careful, Addy! Those bird feet got some serious power behind them!

Thanks for the support, guys!"
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Anonymous 2018/06/28 20:53:04 No.1458878
At this rate we are going to have to wait 20 more pages for the talonjob scene to end and then 20 more pages as we have a heart to heart and another timelapse and then finally we will get to the sex, but not after about 20 more pages of foreplay.
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Anonymous 2018/06/28 22:24:36 No.1458972
I don't want to upset someone here bit I dont know where the problem is.

This Comic is both. Porn and Story.
And in my oppinion the charakters in this comic are very believable and somehow natural.

i think it is worth to wait for that.
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Anonthemouse 2018/06/28 23:47:31 No.1459007
>>1458846
Jesus fucking christ get on with it!

I'm making a supercut of this when it's done, using only a third of the pages. It'll be more enjoyable and nothing of value would be lost
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 00:45:32 No.1459035
It's kinda amazing how they managed to dedicate two entire pages to addie's grip strength. It takes dedication to pad out a comic like that.
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 03:06:09 No.1459065
>>1458972
the problem is that this comic has reached a point where the extending absolutely everything has created a scene that has become un natural. the comic itself is great, the art is fantastic and sefeiren knows that. But the problem is entirely that, she KNOWS that. She knows she can drag this comic out for absolutely however long she desires because shes one of the best furry porn artists out there. and people will pay her (And do) to make it. But the scenes taking this long to unfold doesnt push the idea of a natural encounter taking place between two characters who love each other and dont want to mess up, instead it plays out in a way that covers very little ground in a looooong expanse of time. I am fully aware i have no leg to stand on because i'm reading it for free. But there are people paying good money to receive page after page of arduous bollocks, it doesnt imply a depth to the characters because absolutely nothing happens page to page. it instead shows sefeiren knows if she takes as long as possible to finish the comic, she'll make more money without really making the comic progress. We all know they will eventually have sex, but we've had god knows how many pages that could be compressed into way less, and god knows how many more before it finishes. Sefeiren is drawing this comic to make money, and its evident in the pacing. I'm not holding it against her. She needs to live as much as everyone else. But fucking DAMN is this comic slow. Even this double page could be compressed into one page without very much trouble
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Advarious 2018/06/29 04:40:22 No.1459138
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>>1459065

Dude, we have been saying this shit for almost two years now.
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 05:31:51 No.1459149
>>1459065
Ya know what? I got sick of this shit, and it inspired me to start the fun edits we have all enjoyed, the feedback was so positive i have been drawing ever since. While i may not be as good an artist (yet) i am making great strides with every project i work on. I gave up on bitching, because people will argue about anything on the internet. But ill tell you what i am going to do. Eventually i will start posting my own content. It'll be decent and hilarious. To hell with this comic. let the fanboys swoon over it. What kind of comic would you guys like to see? Ill try to produce it, and start a new thread.
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 07:09:12 No.1459200
At this point I've transcended the need for porn and am actually quite enjoying the silly fluff like Addy's grip strength. I know there will be porn, and maybe it'll be good and maybe it'll be The Golden Week. I'm still enjoying it.
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 11:34:19 No.1459231
>>1459065
If they were one of the best, there wouldn't be so many negative reviews.
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 12:28:11 No.1459234
>>1459138
And yet people still need it spelling out for them, top kek
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Anonymous 2018/06/29 14:29:34 No.1459252
Enough with the bitching, guys. It only seems drawn out because we have to wait so long inbetween pages. If you were reading this like a comic book, it would flow naturally (as with most other comics here that people complain about). The comic is all about awkward interspecies sex, and it's playing out pretty much as it should. (P.S. -not the artist/writer) (more like -silent majority)
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Anonymous 2018/06/30 01:50:52 No.1459462
Read this whole god damned thing in one sitting about a week ago. It's slow as fuck and drags like a dog's butt on a carpet. Nice art, hot in the few pages sex actually happens, but all the padding is pointless and isn't going anywhere. It just makes the characters unlikeable and doesn't flesh out the world the way the writer thinks it does.
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Anonymous 2018/06/30 02:00:59 No.1459464
>>1459065
"Draw a wolf and an eagle having romantic sex" the comic
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Anonymous 2018/06/30 11:35:12 No.1459588
Almost half of year and still can use this message now:
>>1381460

At least (finally) we have seen Devon's cock. And he's so HOT!!
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Anonymous 2018/06/30 21:02:37 No.1459738
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This comic moves at a snail's pace but at least snails get to the sex eventually.
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Anonymous 2018/06/30 22:18:06 No.1459776
>>1459065
Why don't you no talents just write and draw your own comics and bring it to us to show use how it should be done? I swear, all this bitching over something you technically shouldn't even be able to see since it's being leaked to begin with is annoying.
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Anonthemouse 2018/06/30 23:37:10 No.1459812
>>1459776
Every thread has one of these morons. And every time they get the same exact answer. Just because you can't do better, doesn't mean you can't criticize it.

If someone randomly smashes keys on a piano and then complains saying "well you do it better then.", you still know they suck
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Anonymous 2018/07/01 20:35:14 No.1460352
>>1459812
To bounce off your piano player analogy.

The problem isn't that we aren't allowed to criticize the person for playing the piano like shit.

The problem is that we keep coming back expecting them to not play like shit when the pattern is clear that, yes, they are going to continue to play like shit.

If we want to hear good music, we need to either go find another musician or take that energy we're using to bitch about the sound and put it into something more productive, perhaps like learning to play the piano ourselves.

We'll come out happier either way.
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Anonymous 2018/07/02 06:33:01 No.1460547
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>>1459812
It's almost like complaining doesn't get you anywhere, so why don't you get out of this thread and sit down and have a good long hard think about what you want. Also about whether or not you should be a namefag.
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Anonymous 2018/07/02 13:20:15 No.1460632
>>1459007
For my own satisfaction, already rewrote the story trying to heavily stick to the same plot (no art as I can't draw, can only write) and I even added some extra pages for background lore and character development and am 15 pages shorter than this...
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Anonymous 2018/07/03 12:18:14 No.1460985
>>1460632
In today's literate world writing is as much a skill as putting the fries in the frier at McDonalds.

Also great, you're rewriting an already written story.

But beats me, for all I know it is a romanesque literal chef-d'oeuvre of allergories, filled with metaphors, engaging interactions and a conversationalism of an eloquence that cannot be equated by the greatest writer out there. Too bad it's for your "personnal" enjoyment, which means you won't even share it with anyone so they can criticize your style, formulas, phrasing or choice of words.

This is great, I can now totally understand your feeling of superiority as a critical mind, and contemplate the deep meaning of your views; "This is shit." a real hidden pearl of criticism this one.
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Anonymous 2018/07/03 13:15:43 No.1460990
>>1460985

Fresh out of the salt mines are ya?
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Anonymous 2018/07/04 02:38:47 No.1461249
This thread is saltier than your average screaming CoD kid. I'm here to see people arguing like babies, not for porn.

Lol, you lot are such a fucking joke.
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Anonymous 2018/07/04 15:49:54 No.1461476
>>1460985
maybe they wanted to post it when the stories done? maybe they did it as slap in the face piece criticism or maybe the did it to satisfy the already unsatisfied like myself and others? No need to be such a blaggard about it
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Anonymous 2018/07/05 20:53:41 No.1461948
not gonna leak it bc I'm a dick, but today's page is a real groaner
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Anonymous 2018/07/05 21:32:56 No.1461956
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He said the thing
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Anonymous 2018/07/05 21:54:31 No.1461969
>>1461956
"Rollll credits!" *ding*
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Kajex Surnahm 2018/07/05 22:11:59 No.1461979
>>1461956

https://youtu.be/F8mYLi3PGOc?t=24s
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ExceedinglyStraightFox 2018/07/05 22:30:43 No.1461982
>>1461956

Sefeiren would be excellent at CinemaSins
*ding*
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Anonymous 2018/07/05 23:53:06 No.1462002
sooo now what? They kiss and that's it? no fucking? How does sef still have patreons? And don't come crying to me with that story over porn shit. That is the flattest lie i've heard yet.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 00:02:23 No.1462005
Jesus fucking Christ would it even be physically possible to drag this shit out any further?
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 00:15:58 No.1462010
>>1461956
That's all folks! I hope y'all enjoyed this comic as much as I did!
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 00:42:08 No.1462017
Alright, that's it. Cue ending. Now we wait for Chapter 2.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 03:18:57 No.1462067
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The end.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 03:48:52 No.1462077
I dont know why i bring myself back here every thursday, at this point i'm just playing myself
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 05:43:29 No.1462111
>>1462002
Because the entire furaffinity, e621 and inkbunny is in love with the comic. Actually, the "bitching" about the comic is happening only here.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 06:22:15 No.1462141
Maybe we’re paying him just to keep it going so we can read these comments.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 07:48:24 No.1462158
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>>1462067
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 07:51:09 No.1462160
I admit sometimes the comments are a fun read than the comic
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 16:58:26 No.1462363
>>1462160
Yes...same here...
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 20:19:37 No.1462445
>>1462067
We definitely need more stuff like this on this site instead of having salty people complaining about everything.
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Anonymous 2018/07/06 23:32:45 No.1462497
This is amazing in so many ways. I come him more for laughs now than anything else. Still looking forward to that bird sex though. Having is not so pleasing a thing as wanting.
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Anonymous 2018/07/10 14:28:08 No.1464607
Roll credits
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 00:41:03 No.1465566
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welp
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ExceedinglyStraightFox 2018/07/13 01:09:29 No.1465570
>>1465566

I used to believe that a slow pacing comic will be more enjoyable once you read it from the beggining again...

But this is getting to a point that even the actions are absurd...

Edited at 2018/07/13 01:10:37
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 03:08:23 No.1465623
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@sefeiren
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 05:00:41 No.1465652
>>1465623
so I can sleep at night, I gotta view this as extraordinary self-awareness on sef's part
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 09:35:13 No.1465700
If ya aren't laughing and having a good time with your partner, you're not having good sex.

Unless you're roleplaying.
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 09:59:43 No.1465703
I love these two and this whole messy, meandering journey.

Now let's get REALLY messy....
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Anonymous 2018/07/13 21:06:47 No.1465870
this boy is prime submissive bottom material and here he is in a straight comic
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Anonymous 2018/07/14 22:33:15 No.1466294
>>1465623
Could it be meta about this thread?
>=3
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Anonymous 2018/07/16 12:08:35 No.1467070
I've noticed that some people still are either dismissive about the whole 'pacing' problem with this comic, or insist that the pacing is 'necessary' to build up the relationship. Let's put this in perspective with another comic that Sefeiren has made: Family Matters.

The comic had a total of 80 pages, with roughly four times the devotion to sex scenes and sex scenes in general compared to this comic at 124. There has been roughly three scenes of any sexual note: Addy masturbating, Addy being fingered by Devon, and now Addy giving Devon a 'talonjob' so to speak. That's equivalent to almost 42 fucking pages between scenes. I know that each scene takes more than one page to devote to the scene, but you'd think that if Family Matters was able to keep the sex high and the pacing well, without offsetting both, than NO Harm No Fowl should too? It's exactly why people are even making the claim that Sefeiren is milking his fanbase deliberately by padding out pages when certain pages could be cut literally in half and still be coherent to the comic.

More importantly, if this comic can't do the pacing part right, and is deliberately padded out to 'build' anticipation for the eventual sex, there will be a breaking point where anyone's anticipatory boner will become a flaccid cock with a impatient pervert trying to find the pages that don't involve simple actions dragged out for three pages. I mean, look at the pacing with Devon trying to take down his pants; literally 4 pages spent him taking them off to show his cock like as if he's wearing Confederacy pants. To summarize, by the time the sex scenes actually have happened, most have noped out of even getting a good jerk in and are just sighing in exasperation at how little has gone on so far.
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Anonymous 2018/07/16 16:29:14 No.1467135
>>1467070
Not to mention the story per se is still pretty undercooked. There are no stakes because they don't seem to be in actual danger of being found out for now, the culture behind bird-anthro interactions hasn't been established beyond "they can't mate" (no reason or prejudice given) and "birds send mail", Devon has no personality aside from "dork", Addy's a fairly straightforward tsundere, the timeline as presented has no real bearing on the proceedings (did that montage do ANYTHING of actual value?), we still don't exactly know what happened with that one other bird-anthro couple, and, most importantly, we haven't explored the world beyond their house, yes, we saw it, but we didn't actually learn much about it.

Edited at 2018/07/16 16:31:04
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 10:33:53 No.1468704
i found out that a bird companion is nearly a thing for everyone.
In the beach and town scenes there are a lot people with speaking birds.

So they are more pets than people because no one wants to see a bird and dog cuddling like in the beach scene. And of couse no sex.

I think its ok till now.
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 21:13:42 No.1468864
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Maybe some sexy stuff next week boys
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 21:52:50 No.1468888
>>1468864

Is this this week's update for real? This is just Sefeiren shitposting without any pretense any more.
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 22:08:00 No.1468903
Seiferen is just trolling at this point
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 22:18:39 No.1468904
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>>1468864
This is the page?! Where's the yiff!? Wanna the yiff!!
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PokeAnnon 2018/07/19 22:26:28 No.1468906
This is GOLD, im more curious to see how long he WILL draw it out~

Very entertaining seeing people blow fuses for each page NOT sex.
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Anonymous 2018/07/19 22:48:04 No.1468911
>>1468906
*She
Seiferen is a woman, not a guy.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 00:18:06 No.1468937
it hurts knowing their patrons are probably "absolutely hilarious xDDDD" and perpetuating the delay even longer
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 00:51:18 No.1468943
I'm a patron and I love this. Smut is fine and all, but I love their subtly cute and awkward romance. You can all whine and bitch and carry on about how she's 'dragging it out' all you want, but the narrative flow makes sense, the characters are well developed, and it's cute.

There doesn't need to be a conflict to make this engaging. There doesn't need to be strife and violence and immediately active sexual activity to give them shared sensuality.

I went back and read the whole comic up to this point as someone would a comic book, and it flows well. Yeah, there's a lot of pages and there's a lot of work (so it's taking forever in the real world to make this happen), but from a narrative perspective it is solid.

Also, it's funny to see petulant manchildren whine about not getting their interspecies smut faster. It's hilarious to see all the criticism that holds no weight.

The people who matter are the patrons. The patrons like this style of storytelling and continue to support her. Your opinions are irrelevant.

Will it win a peabody award? No it will not. Then again, she was never going for high art with this. It's a slice of life story with two likeable characters with a sprinkling of smut. You know, like the real world (And honestly, the comic has done plenty world building, too).

I'm not going to pretend it's perfect, but people seem to like it, 1 dollar a month is basically nothing, and I'm happy to pay the 5 I am to get it.

If you want bird-wolf porn, pay for it. Commission an artist instead of being pathetic basement dwellers and armchair critics. If it's not worth your money or you don't like its pace/dollar per dick ratio, then don't pay for it.

But then don't bitch about it not catering to you.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 01:24:27 No.1468947
>>1468943
Either you're trying to get flamed or you're actually a patron.

If it's the former; nice bait!

If the latter is in fact the case, don't waste the energy. This place is the YouTube comment section of the furry fandom.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 02:51:24 No.1468961
>>1468943
Personally, I don't find it either cute, well-developped, or well-paced. I think that thus far it's pretty one-note and surprisingly not-funny in its attempts at humor ("squirrels are nuts", the recent barrage of terrible puns). Maybe it'd be ok if it JUST wanted to be a cute comic, but this sold itself as the story of a taboo romance and that aspect hasn't been elaborated on nearly as much as it should have at this point (125 pages!). I don't care if they have sex or not, I check this comic to see if it finally establishes a steady source of conflict and doesn't just sidestep the potential threats to Addy and Devon's romance everytime they get brought up.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 03:30:43 No.1468981
>>1468943
I'm not a patron, but I also really enjoy seeing this every week, regardless of the amount of porn. Cheers, thanks for supporting the artist.

Edited at 2018/07/20 03:31:16
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Furrynomous 2018/07/20 04:20:05 No.1468998
Tbh, this is going to end up like one of those comics tht take 4 years to finish, and the only "porn" thing we get is "light-touching" and maybeee pre-ejaculation, and everyones disappointed cuz they waited for nothing :/
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Furrynomous 2018/07/20 05:33:21 No.1469009
>>1468998

Its not that anyone waited years for this comic. they coming have a look every thursday, rant a bit and continue with their lifes. Its jist a porn comic (without much porn)...being so hilariously attacked and whine about it is just a sign of how boring and dark a haters life must be.

I liked this comic...defended it for a long time but since the page from last week I find it kinda rediculous now as well...but I have better things to do than screaming for smut every week. there are plenty other comics and pics out there...so who cares
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 05:38:17 No.1469012
Good news. The patreon is losing pledges. Hopefully this pandering serves a lesson.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 12:27:45 No.1469134
Are you serious...A week of waiting for a image that can be drawn in a DAY? She is jsut taking advantage of those who are paying her, those who pay deserve to see the comic here for free.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 13:56:04 No.1469163
I’m just here for the delicious comments and tears.
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 14:11:22 No.1469167
Haven't been this disappointed since BLTN
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AAAAAAAA 2018/07/20 14:57:09 No.1469175
File: images111_u18chan.png - (121.75kb, 348x281, images (11)(1).png)
>>1468904
Can't you see?
They are having an oral intercourse

Edited at 2018/07/20 15:00:09
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Anonymous 2018/07/20 20:28:06 No.1469283
>>1469012
According to graphtreon her patreon has never had as many patreons or has made as much money as it does today. I don't know where the fuck you are getting your information from.
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Anonymous 2018/07/21 01:54:55 No.1469365
>>1469283
He just wants to believe Sefs patreons are also tried of this being dragged out, but as every comment on each page confirms, they seem to like it that way. RIP
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Anonymous 2018/07/21 20:07:47 No.1469671
>>1469167
Fuck, that comic took years off my lifespan
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Anonymous 2018/07/22 00:26:47 No.1469762
File: Screenshot_20180721-203019_Patreon_u18chan.jpg - (86.23kb, 720x686, Screenshot_20180721-203019_Patreon.jpg)
Meanwhile, in the Patreon comments
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Anonymous 2018/07/22 06:15:35 No.1469851
>>1469762
Problem solved, just stop supporting and live life for a year and return when it finishes? Sounds plausible to me.

(Thou, I bet the sex hasn't started even in a year from now, LOL!)
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Anonymous 2018/07/24 22:14:17 No.1471034
>>1469851
That's actually VERY honest and down to earth coming from them.
Nowadays most artists are jewing their art so hard that if you pledge to 'em now, you get access to this month's content only (probably in an external website), so none of the past month/earlier content will be available ever to new patrons. Maybe they'll have you beg through PM to get something from a specific month (only) or buy it in an artpack when the year's done.
Patreon basically gave paysite tools and means to a bunch of retards with no idea how to run a business - just look at how many of them become crybabies because of doing taxes and about Patreon's own cut of their income. Seriously.
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Anonymous 2018/07/25 02:09:03 No.1471110
Some spoilers, from the stream (it's a public stream, check Picarto)

Page 128 (127 wasn't shown) is buildup to some licc-the-dicc

Said activity continues for a couple of pages afterwards
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Anonymous 2018/07/25 03:23:46 No.1471144
>>1471110
I really want to see some deepthroat action
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Anonymous 2018/07/25 04:43:07 No.1471168
>>1469762
I like that she's got a story to tell and she's going to tell it her way. I respect that.
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Anonymous 2018/07/26 00:55:05 No.1471553
>>1471168
Only two more years before we actually find out what that story is. Can't wait.
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Anony 2018/07/26 05:18:21 No.1471599
>>1428227
This was a spot on prediction!
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 02:45:04 No.1471992
Thursday new page right? Where it at?
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 05:41:32 No.1472032
The next two should get it moving... maybe...
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 06:16:40 No.1472039
Where the double update page???
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 07:07:32 No.1472045
Has it ever been this late before?
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 08:22:14 No.1472059
So, sefeiren joined de DRM watermarking dark side...

(She is on PrimeLeap)
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 08:42:57 No.1472065
File: Untitled_51_u18chan.png - (118.99kb, 1032x614, Untitled.png)
>>1472059
>>1469283
>>1469012
She's gained over $400+ over the last month she's not hurting at all. speaking of,
Spoiler
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 08:49:52 No.1472070
>>1472059
So, its over then? Thread is dead and its time to give money to them? :/
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 09:48:14 No.1472081
>>1472065
Damn, Sef is mingling with blitzdrachin and fucking Kayla-Na?
It's over bros, Sef is abandoning any sense of passion and is only in it for the money.

Greed has taken another artist.
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 12:10:15 No.1472102
Over a hundred pages and we've barely scratched the surface of something that barely resembles sex between the two, and all is lost. Fucking rip bois
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 13:08:01 No.1472110
Wait so there will be no more updates?
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 14:13:45 No.1472126
File: LkARIDr_u18chan.png - (137.19kb, 526x436, LkARIDr.png)
So close yet so far away
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 14:18:49 No.1472127
>>1472110
Looks like :C
I've come too far too not know the outcome...
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Anon 2018/07/27 14:48:30 No.1472133
Oh much sadness....
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 15:00:52 No.1472139
File: bc2og7fvKTETgbTc-07PnbGj8fyUruR5Fz__Oy66GKSqboKyHd9rWTPR9lkphl8V_u18chan.jpg - (341.16kb, 936x1200, bc2og7fvKTETgbTc-07PnbGj8fyUruR5Fz__Oy66GKSqboKyHd9rWTPR9lkphl8V.jpg)
:)
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 15:01:26 No.1472140
File: or88FkJWzMpUiSrApqVKIZkaK4wQf4oSk12EmIrgntdG0rbaaq6_AZcxvUwwMFr5_u18chan.jpg - (300.63kb, 936x1200, or88FkJWzMpUiSrApqVKIZkaK4wQf4oSk12EmIrgntdG0rbaaq6_AZcxvUwwMFr5.jpg)
:O
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 15:34:52 No.1472150
IT LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anon 2018/07/27 16:30:05 No.1472171
>>1472140
>>1472139
I love you Anonymous uploader!!!!
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 20:29:09 No.1472252
Anonymous updated u r our hero! Not only did we get the updates but there is some actual action going on here!
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 21:28:26 No.1472301
>>1472140

Welp, here comes 20 pages of cock licking, rocket jokes, accidental beak nip close call, and other stall tactics to keep from Fuk dat Burb...

At least it's sexual activity now.
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Anonymous 2018/07/27 22:50:33 No.1472325
File: were_u18chan.png - (126.25kb, 533x1208, were.PNG)
>>1472171
>>1472252

Hey guys, anonymous uploader here. I'm not going to be able to post anything after this. Sefeiren is moving to Primeleap which watermarks their images. If I post from there I will get banned. Its been fun guys but its over for me. Sorry love Y'all
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 01:21:57 No.1472359
>>1472325
Is it not possible to edit out or at the very least put something on top of the watermarks to hide them? Better to have the pages that way than not at all.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 01:42:44 No.1472366
>>1472359
i'll have to take the time to make sure I find all of the watermarks. I'll probably do it just because I love you guys
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:06:41 No.1472368
>>1472366
take your time and dont get banned over us, my dude. I honestly wouldn't even post if i wasnt 100% sure every watermark was gone.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:17:41 No.1472370
I'm anxious to see how the patrons react to having to take extra steps to view something they barely have the patience for before. It's gonna be real hard to convince people to stay on a ship that barely gives them what they want, and now asks them to fill out extra paperwork before they can continue.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:18:09 No.1472373
>>1472368
I like to live on the edge. And also, I feel like it is my duty to leak this comic since Sefeiren is legit prolonging this shit out of greed. I pay money to gain access to this comic to post it here where you guys can tear it apart. I do this for you guys. The banter gives me meaning.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:18:34 No.1472374
>>1472325
>mentions how good this is for her patrons
>doesn't disclose the fact the images are marked since that might cause backlash
thats scummy as fuck.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:22:52 No.1472380
File: reeeeeeeeeee_u18chan.png - (108.53kb, 721x1161, reeeeeeeeeee.PNG)
>>1472374
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:23:21 No.1472381
File: 2AavlnXA_u18chan.jpeg - (899.7kb, 1341x7482, 2AavlnXA.jpeg)
>>1472325
wow... I'm sure people would love to go through the hassle just to get brickwalled by a higher tier
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:24:08 No.1472382
File: reeeeeeeeeee_0_u18chan.png - (121.37kb, 719x959, reeeeeeeeeee.PNG)
>>1472374
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:25:30 No.1472383
>>1472381
I did all of these steps to continue posting her shit here for you guys
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:26:09 No.1472384
What do the comments say about this on her post. I didn't know you had to be a patron to see what people say. Is it good/bad ?
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:28:31 No.1472388
File: reeeeeeeeeee_1_u18chan.png - (199.89kb, 728x1233, reeeeeeeeeee.PNG)
>>1472384
womp womp
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:32:21 No.1472389
Also see likes to just delete the big comments that say tgat she is disrespectful to her supporters and that she shouldn't post anything on the Internet if she is that afraid piracy
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:38:08 No.1472390
>>1472384
According to the comments, they lost like 3.

Checking the patreon website data, they gained way more anyways. This is just like Apple, making more expensive phones each time and people claim they won't buy, and behold! Everyone brought it anyway.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:43:51 No.1472391
And the primeleap site looks awfully cheap. But hey what else to expect from the guy who made Blitzdrachin's shitty club site.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 02:56:25 No.1472395
>>1472388
>they know it's just to stop people leaking content with some folders and not much more
>a main feature of linking patrons seems to be a total shitshow
>people don't like this
OOF
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 03:29:27 No.1472398
>>1472366
Thank you my friend
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 06:24:28 No.1472431
Well Sef blocked me cause I got into an argument with her and because of that I guess she made the assumption I was posting here so... I guess I'm one of you guys now.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 07:31:52 No.1472442
>>1472431
Do you have anything on this thing they're switching to before you left? If we can't best it than you ain't gonna see any future pages here man. Whoever is uploading now is props gonna be banned next week if they miss any marks.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 07:45:59 No.1472443
File: primeleap_u18chan.png - (6.99mb, 2674x3426, primeleap.png)
I don't think there's any particular consistency with the watermarks so I don't think I'm gonna be much help. But since I'm being treated like a criminal anyway, here. Go nuts. These are what I found after a quick scan.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 08:07:46 No.1472448
Seems you are able to find them easily enough, maybe there's hope for us all yet.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 11:09:49 No.1472494
File: u18ch_u18chan.png - (2.9mb, 2674x3426, u18ch.png)
>>1472443
Note: there are some very sneaky ones that you can not even see in the unchanged version, so the best thing is to just keep a very keen eye out for the hidden ones
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 12:13:31 No.1472509
>>1472494
Wtf, there's so many, you're gonna miss some for sure.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 12:14:46 No.1472510
File: Victory2_u18chan.gif - (457.86kb, 500x282, Victory 2.gif)
>>1472140
YES!!!
Finally!!
YIFF!!
Please, don't stop it!
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 12:52:29 No.1472517
File: SpJCqx1_u18chan.jpg - (24.58kb, 819x467, SpJCqx[1].jpg)
the Photoshop threshold tool is what you need
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 13:59:26 No.1472534
File: gottafindemall_u18chan.png - (6.45mb, 2674x3426, gotta find'em all.png)
Or edge detection in GIMP...
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 14:19:48 No.1472543
Wow, i really appreciate you are taking time to find all the watermarks, from here, thank you for doing this for us!
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 16:58:25 No.1472592
>>1472534

Get rid of the stuff in the background.

Photoshop > Filters > Blur > Smart Blur

radius 3.7

Threshold 3.7

Save as PNG

See what we've got

Gimp

Filters>Edge-Detect>Edge

Algorithm Laplace

Amount 10.000

Border Behavior Clamp.

Save as PNG and sweep for numbers left over. (The ones that were more visible to begin with.)

Back to Photoshop and take out the ones with

select area > smart blur

Radius 12

Threshold 100

Back to Gimp.

Edge detect. everything should be gone now.

Post.

Edited at 2018/07/28 17:18:01
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 17:12:28 No.1472596
File: primeleap_Cleaned_u18chan.png - (3.81mb, 2674x3426, primeleap_Cleaned.png)
>>1472592

Also handy to run smartblur at max a few times whenever they appear in sold colors. i.e. at the very bottom.

Anyone want to see if any # have been left over?
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 19:18:46 No.1472639
Man this is some CSI shit
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 22:01:23 No.1472674
>>1472639
The only thing that surprise me at this point is them believing to be smarter then the whole internet, it's effectively impossible to outsmart the internet because it include all it's users and it's highly unlikely you are the smartest and at the same time, more knowledgable person on the planet

You only chance is that no one that have enough ability, skill and/or patience decide to bother with your shit

There is just one thing that i frankly don't dully understand, why? Why going trough all this loops in a vain attempt to restrict images circulation this way, when you get all your money from jewtron, your revenue is not gonna change in any significant manner, this images are posted here thanks to donators, but i bet this is not the only place it's possible to find them nor the user pool of this thread is the only group seeing this things basically for free;
Their money gain is secure, their user base is solid and their prospected revenue is pretty much unchanged, so why?
Ego? Greed, saying that some money is not enough, wanting ALL the money ? Stubbornness or Pride? Just utter stupidity and inability to check their numbers?

Any solid lead anyone? I would really like this drm for images scheme to make sense, but at least here it make none
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 22:08:59 No.1472677
Probably ego tinged with some arrogance. Since making that post Sef has been looking to get other artists to kick me from their patreon. Though I don't really think I follow many who are in the same social circle as her. The only one that's bit so far has been Digitoxici(DigiArt). Regardless she's trying to poison the well on me so there is a very clear vindictiveness towards people that cross her (to be fair the only reason I posted to begin with was because I was being vindictive over her banning me for some shit I didn't do so I don't exactly have the high ground here). In any case, watch your back and make sure you get all the watermarks. I'm fairly certain there are more artists planning to use PrimeLeap in the future and they'll all be keeping that tight knit social circle.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 22:24:24 No.1472689
Is primeleap becoming something like an artist safe space of sorts? It starts to remid me of that South Park song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 23:18:29 No.1472744
Looks like they forgot about the streisand effect, banning people, forcing them to switch to another thing to stop people seeing something/leaking will make people only want to see it more.
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Anonymous 2018/07/28 23:22:00 No.1472748
>>1472674
Honestly this seems like much more trouble than it's worth, not just for the Patrons but for Sef as well. People are always going to find a way to pirate her work, all these extra measures are a hassle for everyone involved and they aren't going to stop anyone from getting this comic.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 00:26:06 No.1472819
File: Di_dtmdW0AArwAn_u18chan.jpg - (83.17kb, 499x934, Di_dtmdW0AArwAn.jpg)
funny considering if you go to certain places besides yiffparty and u18chan you can still get her stuff by some generous people. it honestly sounds like one big lie just to get other artists to use her friends website Spoiler
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 01:47:45 No.1472898
I don't understand the logic of "I banned some leakers and now my income has increased tenfold". Do you really think that all those people that weren't subscribed to you will suddenly start loving you because you cut off their source of porn? no, ofc not, they will be pissed and they will continue to not give you a dime.

And the people who want to support you won't really care that there's someone not paying to watch the content, the same way that when you want to buy a game you don't care if the game is being pirated somewhere else, you just buy it because you like it or you want to support the developers, this way of thinking about piracy/leaks is just retarded.

Hell, there's even some studies around that say that piracy may in fact increase sales.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 02:21:46 No.1472913
>>1472898

I totally agree, it's very unlikely that she had any significant increase from this shit.

Considering this new website it hers too, it seems she increased her target range.Well, what do u do if u can't scam ur supporters? You try to scam ur fellow artists,make promises about a safe site for their content and lots of future update (that will never or only half-assed be added). As far as I can see they don't even have a comment section for the creator posts yet, lol.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 06:40:38 No.1472975
From a long time lurker to those who are putting in all of the extra work and effort to bring us the latest pages of this comic, I want to sincerely thank you. On behalf of everyone here who may seem unappreciative and ungrateful, thank you for sharing with us that sweet yiff from the kindness of your hearts.

Back into the shadows I go~
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 08:14:33 No.1472997
What's stopping a banned user from making a new account and/or using a gift card?

Edited at 2018/07/29 08:19:47
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 12:35:54 No.1473055
>>1472997
the hassle of doing all of that. You can use prepaid credit cards I believe but even then its more work just to get more content just to get banned and if you're a repeat offender then who knows, could possibly get IP banned from the whole website if they catch you. And would you really want to keep paying someone so they can continually ban you every time?
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 15:07:15 No.1473082
>>1473055
And how exactly you are reliably tracking fully dynamic IPs?
The answer is that you don't, there is no sure way to do so excluding isp's logs, if present, especially if the user pass trough a VPN
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 16:24:27 No.1473098
>>1472443
Comparing yours to mine, all the watermarks appear to be in the same places on that page.

>>1472534
Don't trust that absolutely. That example of GIMP Edge Detect has missed some that Photoshop didn't.

>>1472596
Comparing this to my own overlay of the watermarks it looks 100% clean to me.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 17:10:24 No.1473121
I look at it like this, some people aren't 'stealing money' from artists by looking at pirated pics because were the pics not pirated, these people would never seen them to start with. Little confusing, I know. Like say a movie comes out and you watch the trailer and think "Nah, not worth my money and time." but a week later some one uploaded a pirated version online and you say "Well, its free, why not?" You are not stealing money from the movie studio as they would suggest because where it not online for free, you wouldn't have seen it at all. The only reason you are looking at this comic is because its free and if the only way you could see it other wise is to pay, you wouldn't see it because its not worth the money to you.
That make sense?
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 17:15:58 No.1473124
>>1473121
Spot on, So many games or movies that are interesting but I feel I can live without. But if they make the rounds months later on the pirate bay, I'll be taking a look, otherwise I would just miss it,in many cases, its because of that removal of barrier that causes me to become a fan, and thus I get sequels, something that would never happen if I never saw it ever.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 18:51:56 No.1473150
To the two morons above. You are trying to justify stealing a comic by saying it's the only way you would view it if it was free. IT IS ALREADY FREE, you just have to not be so self entitled and wait for it to come out publicly. All of the people here are nothing but greedy self entitled assholes, and your arguments for why you think it's ok to steal an artists work does nothing but reflect on the kind of scummy people you are.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 19:55:31 No.1473171
>>1472898
I don't get how people don't understand how piracy can help them (if they're not small, of course).

If you're big enough, piracy can't really hurt you in ways as if you were only making $100 a month. It helps to get your product out in the open for people to see and eventually purchase. I can't tell you the amount of times I pirated a game only to buy it later since I enjoyed it so much or supported an artist on patreon after seeing their stuff on here or yiff.party or anywhere else because I liked their stuff. If it weren't for the leaks for any of those, I would have never put money towards them.

Now, this comic I don't like that well. It's too slow, even for $1. It's gone on for what, almost 3 years now and we're finally getting to the sex scene teased from the voting images all those years back? No thank you. It's too slow of an update to put any money towards it. Now it has an extra layer of DRM that just makes it a hassle to even view it legitly. This makes me, and I'm sure a lot of others, less inclined to even support now since it's an obvious sneer to others. If you're vicious with your DRM and means of Anti-Piracy, you're only going to cause more people to take the necessary steps to pirate it and spread it more. If you're lax with your anti piracy measures, more people will be inclined to support you.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 20:13:23 No.1473176
>>1473150
I wonder which of the Prime Leap crew you are. Doesn't really matter. I'm not going to make excuses for people pirating like the others here. I'll just give you a bit of advice. Kayla-Na is universally reviled due to her treatment of fans, her paranoia, and her privatizing literally all of her work. Blitzdrachin just recently ended up like this due to her treatment of fans. Sefeiren is next on the block. Associating yourself with these artists is a death knell to your place in the community. You'll probably end up stabilizing at some point and have a chunk of fans willing to put up with all the crap they have to go through to stay on your good side. But you'll never grow again. And the longer you stay in that little bubble, the more the community outside will come to resent you. That's the ultimate fate for PrimeLeap. An insular bubble that people on the outside just see as the artists no one wants to interact with. It's not a surprise there's more of a community surrounding the leaks of these pages than there are on the pages themselves on Patreon.
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Anonymous 2018/07/29 22:36:39 No.1473213
File: primeleap_u18chan_u18chan.png - (2.94mb, 2674x3426, primeleap_u18chan.png)
seems to be the most obvious overall
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 01:36:08 No.1473262
>>1472596
What the flying fuck; where did you get that res? i don't see that size on Patreon?
I've PM'd twice about a higher res and she always responds with "Patreon won't let me post a higher resolution"..
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 02:07:51 No.1473267
>>1473098

Well at least that means there is a way to cleaning images as per posts:

>>1472592
>>1472596

Only now the uploader need to go through the hassle of

Photoshop (smart blur) > gimp (edge detect) > Photoshop (smart blur any numbers left)

not just upload.

Also by loading the edge detection version into photoshop as a layer under the original and set the original layer to 'divide' seems to make the serial numbers pop for easier identification.
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 03:09:35 No.1473288
>>1473171
So you really think that unlimited pay would increase speed, quality or overall justify this kind of behaviour somehow?
How dense can you be?

It's scientifically proven that overpaying someone for any work will end up with the payee working LESS, and with less efficiency and quality, and that is exactly what jewtron is, allowing an "artist" to effectively get overpaid for his work to a potentially unlimited degree

This comic artist get already more then enough to justify continuing this job and with a significant margin, any more cent throw their way is an incentive TO NOT WORK, like it happened to all other overpaid jewtron project, like fek for example, despite all the monthly pay he pretty much suspended his work and started another project while still racking everything rack 2 supporter give him, not only that but this comic it's obviously design to be a long as possible to keep the fools hooked and pay more for something that should have been over at least 50 pages ago

Your white knight logic is what allowed this kind of people to get away with it, and if you don't like it then get off the internet or at least this thread, because merely looking at this comic without paying by your logic is piracy and you despise it, so fuck off and return to the dark asshole of the jew artist you came out for and Never come here again
You never know we may force you to walk the plank
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 04:12:55 No.1473303
Have you lads seen this?

https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 05:14:22 No.1473324
>>1473303
Yeah but do you really think that matters? I guarantee you none of the Prime Leap guys actually care about its effect on sales. It's out of spite. They hate that people circumvent their paywalls and they want them punished. That's what the whole watermark thing is anyway, just a way for them to weed out the leakers. There's nothing about Prime Leap meant to attract customers. In fact it's the opposite, it's an obtuse system that forces people to make a new account and then deal with watermarks all over their images. All of this is done out of spite of "pirates". So no amount of facts on piracy and sales is going to sway them. They hate all of you, and they hate the people that criticize them. This is a punishment for YOU, not a boon for their fans.
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 05:29:12 No.1473327
>>1473288
I think you've quoted the wrong person. No way I said I supported this, don't know how you wagered that from my post.

I was basically saying if one were to go full DRM on their product, people are less inclined to buy it and would put more effort into pirating it (Just look at Ubisoft games), which is what's happening now and it's a totally reasonable thing.

If someone wasn't so strict on their anti-piracy, people will be more inclined to go support the person if they like the material (Like CDProjecktRed or some Indie Developers).

In this case, I'm turned off by the DRM to the point where's it's not worth it to support somebody who cares more about money than fans. This comic was too slow for anyone's taste that it's insulting to shove a DRM on it because the artist is concerned over $50-$100 potential income when they're already making far enough.
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 15:06:52 No.1473478
>>1473303
I knew about that.
If you think about it, people who were already paying still pay.
People who were not willing to pay in the first place are not going to pay anyway.
People who were leaking were paying, and now that you cut them off you're not getting their money.
At the end of the game this war on piracy just does negative advertising on your product, picturing you as a greedy asshole who likes to piss off paying clients just to catch some thieves.
This logic is strongly known by market: take for exemple wallmart. They know a part of their products will be shoplifted, and they account for shoplifting in their usual management routine.
Scaring visitors with security cameras, guards and whatsoever is not only way more expensive than just allowing some guy to get away with free stuff, but it also assures your clients to feel like you don't trust them, so they will just go buying somewhere else.
So there is a certain level of not intrusive control like magnetic tags (and I can assure you sometimes they are just turned off, because you don't want people to realize there is crime in your store), but then they leave you be.
And guess what? People tend to be honest if you charge a fair price on a neat product.
Want to assure more revenues? Work on quality.
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Anonthemouse 2018/07/30 16:01:54 No.1473485
>>1473478

Security guards and cameras don't scare off customers. They scare off thieves and robbers. Regular customers should and do feel safer
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 16:38:34 No.1473492
>>1473485
Wrong
I never shoplifted anything, but being constantly on camera and be treated like a thief by security guards would definitely make me nervous and feel unwelcome
It's the same reason why it's discouraged to use the military in police duty for civilians unless absolutely required, it make people nervous and feel oppressed, for brief period of time or on emergencies this is tolerated, but it's not tenable for long periods of time, unless you are in a oppressive country run by a dictatorship of course, and even there they try to not push too much if possible
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Anonymous 2018/07/30 16:57:58 No.1473502
>>1473485
I dont need to convince you, I'm just telling you what I know for sure, you can either take it or leave it.
You may be one of those people that feel safer under constant watch by security cameras, but those are a minority.
Most of people like the idea of a guard near the entrance and nothing more. They like to feel like we put our trust in them, and that is also what we like to do, make them feel home.
Shops account for shoplifting just like any other form of maintenance, it's another expense that we are willing to sustain in order to maintain a nice image of the place.
Just ask to any person in this kind of business and you'll find out we all deal with it the same.
It's just more practical to ignore a few thieves and assure a stable income from loyal clients.
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Anonymous 2018/07/31 00:00:30 No.1473627
>>1473492
>>1473502
Technically you're both right.
People do feel safer with security staff and security camera's being present, but they get put off and can even feel discriminated against if those security measures go from simply being present to harassing you.

It's a finely balanced technique. Like how the artists that eventually post all their Patreon content are less likely to get leaked than those that never post it, and/or based on how the artist treats people that simply use sites like this. Their insistence on holding their art behind a paywall. It's all in how much people can stand.
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Anonymous 2018/08/01 04:25:26 No.1474075
Why doesn't she just come out and say this is about greed? It's quite obvious it is, no other reason to use that shitty site other than greed. I also notice in the past few days she has lost about 30 patrons, not much though, when you make 2k a month drawing 4 pages of a comic that you've been milking for months now. Nice to see those people who said they're ending support may have actually done it.
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Anonymous 2018/08/01 07:37:20 No.1474143
>>1474075
Told ya.
Investing in excessive security is both more expensive and less likely to get you clients.
Economically is just the wrong thing to do.
Still, I don't want to overestimate Sefeiren, I am pretty sure things won't change to how they were back.
You would need Sef to keep track of incomes and realize the effect of this fight on piracy. 99% won't happen and the artist will just feel like they are now safer and richer.
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Anonymous 2018/08/01 16:24:05 No.1474280
>>1472359

Oh, you could, and hear me out, it's a crazy idea, you could just wait for her to post them herself like she's been doing. (It is afterall our fault for seeing stuff in advanced due to the post leaking). And come on, this is the game. If we're going to have someone sneak in and leak the stuff eventually the artist are going to counter that and do something to prevent the leaking. That's the game under the rules everyone knows about in advanced.

Frankly, I'm just surprised it's taken this long for someone to do this.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 03:08:46 No.1474524
Patreon leaker here. I just wanted to chime in and share my thought that its also super convenient timing for her to switch to primeleap right as the actual sexy stuff is finally happening. Like this is what all of us have been dying to see and she jumps to the "secure" platform at the same time she teases the actual naughty stuff. This is a calculated move on her part. This was planned and it is a testament to her greed. Luckily our community is obviously prepared to rally against her anti consumer security measures and bypass her stupid ass watermark meme numbers. This comic was justifiably hated on and scrutinized for the past several months but now we have confirmation that this shit was drawn out in the name of profit and not in the interest of the fans. Fuck her and fuck primeleap. I hope her base dwindles due to this move (though i doubt it will because her patreon sheep will follower no matter what) but I will do whatever I can to make sure that her shit continues to be posted here.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 04:21:48 No.1474545
>>1474524
This guy gets it 100%
Im glad someone has the balls to do it.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 05:04:42 No.1474558
>>1474280
we're on page 128 and publicly the comic is on page 108. Thats 20 weeks just to catch up where we're at now, 5 months for 20 pages of this comic, and with one page a week who knows how much longer its going to take to finish. Regardless of the leaking, the comic is extraordinarily slow and anyone who has been keeping up with it via the leaks rather than the 20 week delayed posting, its gonna be pretty much the end of anyone's interest in the comic if we're forced to wait 20 weeks just to get to where we're at now and still have who knows how many weeks to go. The sex could easily be like 5 or 10 pages and just be the end of the comic for all we know. Couldn't have picked a shittier time to go deep into the paint with DRM at the very moment everyone has been constantly waiting for for the past 128 weeks. Thats 36 months, my dude.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 05:09:51 No.1474561
I mean, of course if the watermarking actually works we can just post summaries, and then burn accounts on the pages with anything actually happening
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 10:36:26 No.1474648
wow, came back this week to see all this juicy drama...

Interesting she goes to the watermarking as the sex starts..shes deffo pissed at the leaks and probably all the bitching that goes on here.

hats off to the guys working to post here, we appreciate you! Though at the same time I may just pay the damn dollar to view it. The pacing of this comic got on my nerves, and I kinda just check in whenever because Ive stopped holding my breath, but I would like to see how it ends for these two. And we're finally at the yiff so...

I can see both sides to this honestly. If I were Seif I'd be a little salty that leakers were posting my work and bitching constantly when all I asked for was $1 at minimum. But I dont think id go so far as to change from patreon just out of spite.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 12:38:02 No.1474686
>>1474280
False, artist and publisher always think that someone steal from them, and as such they always take measure to prevent it, no matter if the foe is imaginary and the cure is worst than the disease, if they feel vindicated then everything else is irrelevant

I bet that even if none would have leaked the pages, the flaming homosexual would still have implemented this security measure to prevent leaking, this is not a reaction to a potential externat threat, they think this is a war and losing it mean having no revenue any more, no matter what studies published by market expert say, in their diseased, disabled mind, everyone is trying to get them and unless they act first someone eventually will
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 13:33:13 No.1474695
she should just lose the stupid 1 page a week thing and just do 3 pages one week and the other week realease one pages and catch up with the sketches and no one would bat an eye, since she sketches the pages for the future, meaning with this 1 page a week she grabs a sketch, finishesh in..Somehwere around 10 hours if in a slow pace(Dont know how fast she can draw, for me to draw a detailed drawing it takes around 6-10 hours, depends of a lot of things) and then has somewhere of 6 days of something, maybe a bit of more sketching for future pages and some comms, but I dont see that many commisions realeased so i cant say for sure if she does them or do the buyers just say to keep them secret.
Or does she have a outside job and not only the art drawing for furry porn..Since those sort of things can delay drawing...Other than than if she just draws one page a week, with nothing else really bothering her...Its just plain lazyness and procrastinating...I would understand maybe toning it down that instead of 3 pages there would be 1 once in a while since art block is a thing and then your art is crap, so its better not to draw too much during that..Although I was told motivation for comms should be the money I get, what a wierd moral debate...But this is ridiculous..The only thing that bothers me is the single page release.
And the sex stalling is fine, honestly imagine it like this, this is taboo for them and they feel awkward about it so they really feel wierd about this, and as if you yourself havent done that, sometimes dragging it out to the last minute almost, just imagine these two, Sef has a Really good eye for comics and showing how characters feel about things so it only understanding.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 18:00:21 No.1474779
>>1472677
Well, in fairness, you are a liar and a cheat, who got caught, so you're ground to whine about being found out is very weak.

You got busted. Man up about it and move on. Yeah, you did the whole Robin Hood act, but even he eventually gets caught.

>>1474558


>>1473121
And nah, that's just an argument a thief comes up with to justify in their heads that what they're doing really isn't THAT BAD. Just own it. I'm stealing the art, I'm enjoying the fact it was stolen, I'm looking at stolen art I otherwise wouldn't have sought after or have seen, but since it was stolen, what ever. Don't try justifying it. It makes you look weak as hell as a pirate. Just admit you don't give a fuck how you got it so long as you did and that you were never going to give anybody any money for what they're doing and let that be the end of it. So long as we have Robin Hood idiots who are willing to spend their money to get things we don't have to spend money on in some misguided thought they're doing us a favor and thus, it makes them feel good, well I'm cool with that form of parasitic relationship because I don't have to do anything for it and Hood gets to think I appreciate him for doing it. Which I really don't. He was going to do it anyway.

I don't care if this stuff gets leaked early since I know it's going to publicly come out free anyhow. I'll just have to be patient and in the meanwhile, go look at some other porn that'as posted for free or some other Hood moron steals and posts. Stop moral fagging the reasons behind all of this. You're only convincing yourself or those weaker willed to believe it.
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Derp 2018/08/02 20:11:22 No.1474819
Or maybe she's also doing this to appease those paying for the pages.

I'm sure most of them aren't happy that the page they are paying money to see is getting leaked a day or so after it gets released to them.





Similar thing happened with a certain videogame a few months ago. Backers got a special skin for a character. The skin was leaked to others and the backers were pissed.
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Anonymous 2018/08/02 23:30:45 No.1474872
I enjoy the comic, I don't like paying for stuff like that, so I don't thus I'm there, yet I am happy that you got busted and get your ass handed to ya for being a prick.
I can't really explain it but I'm completely okay with her working this out like that, I'm genuinely happy for the artist.
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I'm just guessing here but... Anonymous 2018/08/02 23:38:25 No.1474880
>>1474872
Hey lets be honest the reason you feel that way is the leaker in this instance came across as having an attitude. And that's a big no-no.

Kayla-Na has an attitude problem hence why people are still trying to find ways to leak her stuff even though she uses PrimeLeap. The same PrimeLeap that blitzdrachin, yet people on here aren't as eager to put the effort into leaking their stuff. The reason is because blitzdrachin isn't being an asshole to people.

The more of an ass you act the less support you get. And that works both ways. Hence why you're happy the leaker got caught even though you want the content leaked. In this case the leaker acted like more of an ass than the artist did so the artist gets more support.

You'd think people would just realise this and stop being such assholes to the people they depend on for money and support.
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 00:43:03 No.1474900
lol that people here think I'm the "leaker" that got caught even though none of the other posts besides the watermarked one belong to me (which I posted after I got blocked). I didn't do anything, but she assumed it was me because I crossed her. Of course I'm sure you don't believe me because all this shit is anonymous, but that post is legitimately the first time I ever posted in this thread. Hence why when the next post eventually gets made, if they failed to properly remove the watermarks, it's gonna have a different code than mine.

Edited at 2018/08/03 00:44:23
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 02:18:10 No.1474933
File: 24956365_u18chan.jpg - (37.01kb, 259x313, 24956365.jpg)
>>1474900
So to get this out of the way, this anon is correct. He's not actually the original leaker, just someone who's very upset with Sefeiren, as anyone would.

No matter his attitude I would just like to also point out that his assistance to finding out the watermarks is greatly appreciated, even if he came off as crass, and I would like people in this thread to take note if any leakers are pulling from PrimeLeap. Furthermore if there are any PrimeLeap or artists watching or reading this thread, please keep in mind that Denuvo was cracked within a week by very dedicated people, your attempts at DRM only harm, and are certainly a foul against your legitimate patrons, who will most likely drop you for the next big artist that isn't planning on using it as an alternative to piracy.

Get it? Harm, Foul?

Edited at 2018/08/03 02:18:36
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 04:17:02 No.1474960
On gimp rgb noise set at .03 seems to make all the numbers unreadable, if anyone that is better at finding them can confirm.
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 07:17:12 No.1475030
>>1474960
I'll check as well as soon as patreon sends a bloody verification email
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 07:35:26 No.1475034
So getting a late page today then laddies?
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 07:49:00 No.1475036
at least bltn never purposefully made the pages harder to read...
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 12:50:22 No.1475082
Huh? I expected a page over here after my workday, what's going on?
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Anonymous 2018/08/03 13:41:40 No.1475092
Pages are now being released on a DRM site give people a little time to clean up the images to not get banned
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 03:07:44 No.1475318
>>1475092
If they take until the next page is released, I might just have to just pay the damn $1.
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 03:39:43 No.1475329
Just as a showerthought, if Crittermatic is also joining Prime Leap, and specifically for the DRM services (by their own words), then I imagine they have more security measures in place than simply watermarking images.
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 04:17:56 No.1475366
>>1475329

Not really, the only two non watermarking solutions would be HEX code injection (altering the image binaries in a way to store an specific line of code without altering the image) and Exif data. Thing is, if you take a screenshot of the picture, both, the HEX and the Exif are totally gone, just like that (Or if you just change the file type to some compressed stuff like jpeg). PrimeLeap may be using stuff like that aside the watermarking, but that is way too easy to bypass. That kind of steganography was created to send messages, so you would want to preserve it. We dont. So the other thing is to put stuff in the actual image without distorting it in a visible maner (Since pictures are 255 posible color values, what primeleap does is adding 1 bit to an specific pixel, so it is visually nondetectable, if the pixel is "55,210,37", then the patched pixel will be "56,211,38". Thats wy we can detect them by using a tresshold tool.)

In Sefeiren's comics, the smart blur thing works because of the simplicity of the painting being used, in other more complex artworks, would destroy the image way too much or it will leave a watermark noticeable. Primeleap spams the ID of your account practically everywhere at any scale.
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 04:22:14 No.1475367
>>1475366

Not to go too off topic, but the only reason I mention is because Crittermatic primarily makes animations, and I highly doubt it's going to watermark a video file on the fly per-user, so I was wondering if there's something else they'd be trying.
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 06:26:52 No.1475401
File: nhnf_pg129_nerfed_u18chan.png - (111.48kb, 273x352, nhnf_pg129_nerfed.png)
I welcome my ban

j/k, if I can't even read the bloody dialogue I doubt the watermarks got through

let someone less risk-averse than me post a higher-res version

Bottom-left panel: "That's... That's actually pretty nice"
Bottom-right panel: "Yeah? You like that?"
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 09:11:25 No.1475457
Haha! That's one way to beat them!
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 10:36:54 No.1475470
File: CZ25_u18chan.gif - (1.52mb, 500x250, CZ25.gif)
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 12:22:25 No.1475484
>>1475401
OMG!! Finally!!
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Anonymous 2018/08/04 13:33:07 No.1475496
File: 1532017025950_u18chan.jpg - (26.66kb, 588x647, 1532017025950.jpg)
>>1475401
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Anonymous 2018/08/05 03:31:11 No.1475836
Ive donated more than Ive ever paid. More with sugar/vinegar etc.
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Anonymous 2018/08/05 23:29:54 No.1476154
All this fucking build up and suddenly when we're close to finally seeing some action they raise another wall? This feels deliberate and scummy to say the least ffs.
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Anonymous 2018/08/06 03:39:15 No.1476235
>>1182340
P R E S C I E N T
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Anonymous 2018/08/06 03:46:05 No.1476236
also, another patron please confirm - there do not appear to be watermarks on the high-res download version
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Anonymous 2018/08/06 03:49:53 No.1476238
>>1476236
It's a trick. The watermarks are plain to see on preview images, but hidden on the high-res downloads. Look at the latest (not the small one) comic page posted here. It's a high res download, and people have been going through it finding watermarks.
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Anonymous 2018/08/06 13:09:52 No.1476417
>>1476236

See :

>>1472534

That's a high res version run through GIMPs edge detection.

You need to go through the processes listed in

>>1472592

to get cleaned result

>>1472596

Edited at 2018/08/06 13:10:25
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 02:58:03 No.1476698
How long are we gonna wait for a new page that isn't blurry as fuck? Guess finding those marks takes longer then the artist can draw an entire new page for real? Is that what were down to now? Just deal with it? If this is the new trend it's gonna be a sad time.
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 03:16:13 No.1476704
>>1475401

ok this is just the comic equivalent of squinting at scrambled cable porn
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 04:35:38 No.1476718
File: Waifu2xoverload_u18chan.png - (5.02mb, 2674x3426, Waifu2xoverload.png)
Will Waifu2x work fine for most of these? I ran this one through 4 times with different presets and lazily manually removed the one on the bottom since it wasn't obscure enough to be completely gone after 5 run throughs. I'm using the native desktop application, not the online one.

Waifu2x just seemed so obvious here that I'm wondering why no one's mentioned it? Does it have a bad reputation or is it just relatively unknown?
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 05:19:25 No.1476727
Part of the problem here I think is that there's a disconnect between the leakers and the people who know this shit. It would help if maybe they contacted each other privately, but that's pretty hard to do (and hard to trust) on an imageboard.
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 09:48:26 No.1476844
I've got some advice for those of you leaking the pictures.

As it turns out, there are many ways to hide data in an image. In fact, there's an entire field dedicated to it: image steganography. It won't be long before the team behind this new DRM realizes that they can
hide data in ways other than a visible string hidden in a color channel. I wouldn't be surprised if they are already doing it now, and the color channel watermarks are just red herrings to detract from the real
ones.

There exist several methods of encoding information in images, such as encoding bits in the LSB of certain colors. These will not be apparent to the naked eye, and will require statistical analysis. I suggest
performing entropy analysis and other statistical methods. Many stegography schemes can be broken with a chi-squared attack.

The best way would be to team up with another leaker, or create another account to get two duplicate images. You can XOR these images together, or maybe use other methods of comparison to detect watermarks.
Next, develop a mask that removes the discovered information. This attack would be nearly impossible to circumvent without somehow randomizing the source image itself.

This will be a cat and mouse game, but the resources are stacked in your favor. They will try to adapt but in the end you will always prevail.
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 10:16:09 No.1476872
>>1476844
Our favor??

Brah. The guy running that software has gotta be getting paid thousands a month from those artists, us leakers are getting nothing. I only did it once, but I'm not wasting my time every week.
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 12:46:53 No.1476904
>>1476844
why not just take a screenshot of the computer screen with the image?
i've seen doujins leakers do it sometimes to get around protection. it seems to work well and if the phone is good enough quality it should look just fine
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 16:10:27 No.1476940
>>1476904

- ALT-PRINTSCREEN.
- Open art program of choice.
- Start new file.
- CTRL-V
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Anonymous 2018/08/07 23:22:46 No.1477049
>>1476844

You may be new here... Dude, we'be been talking about this for weeks!... here and also in yiff party. We know whats up, we know how it works, and we also know how to skip it. All we need now is someone supporting any of those artists, that has advance knowledge to understand what we were talking and also wiling to risk everything if he does anything wrong, because nobody will resposabilise for it. The risk is high and the reward nonexistant.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 00:27:41 No.1477060
>>1475401
take screenshot of monitor with phone, or screenshot with software see if the watermarks persist, u can have high res that way.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 00:37:19 No.1477061
Well hopefully this thread doesn't just die off.

Edited at 2018/08/08 00:44:51
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 00:42:08 No.1477062
>>1477049

You're over-exaggerating the situation... Anyone can easily go to a public computer or someone else's computer to upload that copyrighted shit on here.

There would be no lead for anyone to go off on. So unless the uploader is a complete retard, good luck proving who uploaded the copyrighted work.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 01:28:05 No.1477074
Perhaps one day, with the combined power of all of Earth's nations working in harmony, utilising all of our known resources in an organized, methodical system designed by our greatest scholars around generations of iterations and research may we, someday be able to read a webcomic about a wolf fucking a bird. I pray for our success.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 01:41:50 No.1477078
File: IMG_20180808_021603_u18chan.jpg - (2.45mb, 2316x3034, IMG_20180808_021603.jpg)
So i tried taking screenshot of screen but that preserves too much pixel info and the ids are still there.
then I tried taking a picture of my monitor with a phone and voila i got a high res image with no id or watermark information, now ofc this isnt as smooth as the original picture but its more than enough for viewing for free. so yeah guys take monitor pics and you're set.
And here is that pic.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 03:23:59 No.1477108
Alright, I think we've seen enough of 2 weeks ago's page. But it seems clear to me, that the only thing that is clear around here, is the future. One of where blurry, pixelated pages are the new norm here.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 04:18:48 No.1477127
>>1477078
This might be me talking out my ass but...would it work better if you printed the page and then scanned it back into a digital image onto your computer?

I know that printer ink is expensive so I'm not expecting you to just do this for every page if it works, but I am curious if it would work.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 06:55:53 No.1477188
File: u18_0_u18chan.jpg - (469.07kb, 761x975, u18.jpg)
You guys are honestly overthinking this way too much. You should stop looking for ways to upload the hi-rez images. It's too much of a hassel to do and it would ultimately lead to disinterest and lack of motivation to go on and let DRM win. Instead you should look for ways to upload the image that's tastefully readable with little to no work to cover the DRM. I'll show you how.

Take a look at the images I posted. The first one had nothing done to it. You can still see the obvious id, and any of the small transparent ones can be seen, but you cannot make out any details of what they say, no matter how hard you zoom in. Even gimp's edge detect cannot see them. There's just too much noise.

The second had 1 smart blur with the parameters described here and had the obvious id coloured over. The small transparent ones are now pretty much nonexistent. Again, gimp's edge detect cannot see a single thing. There is far too much noise to make any detail out. I ask of you to take another runthrough of these images and tell me if you can even find any of the IDs. If you do, I'd be surprised.

As to how I've done it, it's super simple and takes less than a minute of work. When you open the image up in a new tab, just use gyazo to screen cap it. No zooming it. Just screencap the non zoomed in image. I did mine on a 1920x1080 computer screen. Opera wasn't in fullscreen and I had my desktop task bar enabled and I have no shitty toolbars for my browser. It's just the normal tabs and search bar. Once you screen cap it with gyazo, right click and view the image and then save it. Then just open it in photoshop, remove any obvious ids (like the one on the border or any that will be visible to the naked eye without zooming in), run a smart blur as described earlier in the thread, save as a jpg and then post. There, now we have an image that's very close to the original resolution of the previous pages posted here with little to no effort put into it.

This is also a win/win for both the pirates and sefeiren and generally anybody else who uses prime leap. The pirates get the low res images with maybe some jpg noise, and if people want the full resolution, they pay $1. I can see this working out, but I can also see this as a way to force in more DRM, but how? Gyazo completely bypasses any exif data (as tested with an image taken on a phone and doing the same process) that can be hiding inside the image itself and the smaller resolution with the smart blur makes it impossible to read any non-instrusive IDs. The only thing they can do (that I can think of) is flood it with more watermarks which will turn people away. Piracy is impossible to stop. It just is. The only thing you can do is hitch it for a while or offer a better service to those paying (like how I stated supporters will get full rez).

That being said, I don't have the funds (or means) to pay for patreon/primeleap. I'll leave this to whomever wishes to spend an extra minute of their life doing this method and let the rest of us see it. And to err on the side of caution, probably don't post it the same day you download it. I bet they have an activity tacker to view who saves the image at what time and will probably link it with the leak time. I heard of this happening to idiots who use the uploader on yiff.party the minute they subscribe. Just post a day or 2 after you save it. Godspeed to anyone who does.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 06:56:49 No.1477190
>>1477127
that would work as well but it isn't free and i would guess no leaker would want to go through that for us vs just taking a picture of his monitor.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 06:57:03 No.1477191
File: u18virtuallyclean_u18chan.jpg - (274.16kb, 761x975, u18virtuallyclean.jpg)
>>1477188
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 08:38:24 No.1477218
>>1477188
Exactly what I was thinking.
I don't know why people obsess over the high resolution images, they're useless unless you're going to be printing them out. They don't even fit 100% on a 4k monitor even if you turn it sideways.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 18:32:26 No.1477333
Every time I check this thread the old page has been posted 4 more times
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 18:38:52 No.1477334
>>1477333

That's because people are too dumb to understand you don't need to leak the hi res version and keep sharing methods and brainstorming on how to do it.

The most recent method gets past all the watermarks and any potential exif data within 1-5 minutes and is almost the same resolution as the old pages. If the original leaker is still here, he should read it instead of giving up/looking for methods for the hi rez version.

People are making this more complicated than it needs to be with CIA methods of cleaning. I just showed them the easiest way to continue leaking with little to no risk.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 19:39:00 No.1477348
every time I look this comic up I cant help but think that we could of had 100 pages of hot hunky tiger boy instead of a birb comic nobody wanted
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 20:37:33 No.1477374
>>1477334

OP got banned because he complained about Prime leap and sef suspected (And to be honest, that was a clever movement from sef... and a dumb one from op)... And he hadnt even posted the watermarked version yet.
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Anonymous 2018/08/08 20:50:56 No.1477379
>>1477374
So somebody needs to take up the mantle then. I believe if they follow my steps, they can safely post.

If they're worried, they can always practice on the image in here or any of blitzdrachin's images on yiffparty under extra files. Or they can practice on the other comic pages. If the other pages are on primeleap, or any other images, chances are there are IDs on all those images so they can get a lot of practice in before they feel sure enough to post.

I don't see anything bad happening, though. The resolution makes it damn near impossible to read any of the IDs, and if they're smart enough to spot the obvious IDs and cover them, then they should have no issue.
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Anony 2018/08/08 21:22:05 No.1477389
Remember to also never share the original download though. Even if you scrape exif or modify it, there are still ways to apply steganography and read an embedded payload off it. Better to work with a screencap.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 03:09:39 No.1477526
File: posterize_25_edit_u18chan.png - (2.09mb, 2674x3426, posterize_25_edit.png)
I know this same page has been posted several times but I gave it a shot and I think posterizing would be a good alternative!
The image isn't blurred to shit and it sort of gives it a cellshade look.

I used level 25 posterize in photoshop and seems like a good balance.
I was even able to spot a couple extra watermarks that I circled in red.

What do y'all think?

Edited at 2018/08/09 03:13:08
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 08:23:19 No.1477628
>>1475401

Can we get this in better rez?
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 08:48:11 No.1477633
>>1477628
Have you read the thread? Everyone's too scared to. Everyone's been doing their own remixes on the last page because that guy is already banned, but no one wants to dare try that page because if they miss one, they're banned too.

Now the next page is coming in less than 24 hours and we're still fucking around with 2 weeks ago.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 09:50:42 No.1477643
>>1477526
No good. If you zoom in even a little bit, several of them are still visible.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 10:56:02 No.1477666
Primeleap is clearly working for Sef since the new page hasn't been posted in any readable quality, whether you guys want to admit it or not.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 11:07:39 No.1477668
Its working *temp* right now this is just a game of cat and mouse it always happens someone will figure it out we will get active posts again. Could be tomorrow could be in a few weeks or months but once thats cracked then primeleap will have to do more stuff before thats cracked again it just takes time sometimes don't think its all over or end times. Its just a new system for people to figure out how to get around.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 12:08:42 No.1477671
So... what about just finding the wtermarks, putting tiny black boxes over them, and posting those? I dont think people will REALLY care too much about a few rectangles as long as they get to see the rest of the comic. I don't.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 14:20:37 No.1477694
>>1477526
>>1477633
>>1477643
>>1477666
>>1477668
>>1477671
Can you please stop trying to figure out ways to post the high res version? It doesn't need to be posted. There's already a method to bypass the IDs as posted above. They're not an issue anymore with the one posted. The only issue now is that somebody needs to subscribe and do it.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 20:39:17 No.1477865
>>1477668

Considering Sef's still posting the pages publicly with delay, it wouldn't be "endtimes" anyhow. Unless waiting longer for a furry comic is the endtimes.

For a community that supposedly regards this comic as utter bullshit, y'all are really fucking thirsty to get it the second it's out.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 22:29:27 No.1477925
The longer it takes to leak this, the more other artists will be persuaded to use Prime Leap. I'm far more invested in seeing this site fail than I am in this comic.
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 23:05:43 No.1477938
>>1477925

huh wow almost like prime leap is actually doing its job and is actually a good thing for the artists
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Anonymous 2018/08/09 23:46:21 No.1477952
Not that I care for this comic at all, just how shitty the whole watermarking DRM stuff's been getting, but wow. I thought blitzdrachin's two or three watermarks from her site were bad. This is what, ~30+ watermarks on one image?
Hardly unfixable with some elbow grease and patience, but I don't see many anons jumping at the chance to go through and removing them all every time, unless they were truly determined. I hold out for that determined anon if only to stick it to the artists for making their paying donators jump through hoops to see content.
As a personal suggestion from cleaning out similar watermarks, gimp's sharpen tool set to 99% works wonders for showing watermarks, though blitzes stuff tends to be flatter color wise so there's far less noise than your higher quality shaded image to visually shift through.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:05:19 No.1477969
>>1477952

And that's why I'm saying stop trying to post the hi-rez version. No anon will take the time or chance of being banned to scan each image for all IDs. The image posted in here had like 30 of them, maybe more. Some were very tough to spot too with gimps edge detect. Hard as in they were barely readable and only stood out because of 1 part of the letter, which allowed you to notice the whole ID. Who is going to take that chance just to provide an image board with a hi-rez image.

>>1477188
>>1477191

Those two posts are the reason why i'm telling people to give up on posting the hi-rez version. It's impossible to do in a short time and there's always the chance you will miss 1 or 2 of them. My method fixes this issue in a minute. 5 max. Doing so provides an image at almost the same resolution we've been receiving for the pass 3 years, yet people are still trying to brainstorm on how to leak the full-rez image with too many filters or methods that will make the creators laugh.

If I had the means to subscribe, I'd definitely do it. Not a single ID can be seen in the clean image I posted. The resolution is too small, and since it's too small, the smart blur made it so any potential hidden id gets wiped away with the pixels.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:30:05 No.1477977
>>1477969
So this is where we've come to then? Blurry thumbnail-sized images is the new norm here lads.

Fuck it, I'm paying the dollar, and I ain't sharing, just get banned with that level of insane protection no one wants to put in the effort anyway.

Edited at 2018/08/10 01:32:54
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:33:24 No.1477979
>>1477977
ya fucking sperg you don't need fucking 4k porn.
>>1477078

Edited at 2018/08/10 01:35:19
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:34:01 No.1477980
There will be a new page today, we getting the usual blurry thumbnail size?
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:37:00 No.1477981
>>1477977

Explain how this

>>1477191

is 1) Blurry and 2) a thumbnail

this less than 25% the original size of the previous images which were 936x1200.

>>1477191

this is 761x975.

Are you just making stuff up?

Edited at 2018/08/10 01:37:28
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:53:30 No.1477987
If only one of the people who knows all this pseudo-CSI image manipulation nonsense would be willing to spend one fucking dollar to help keep a DRM site from propagating to the entire furry artist community.

Oh, and to preemptively answer your question: because I've already been banned.

Edited at 2018/08/10 01:55:04
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 01:58:50 No.1477989
If it makes y'all feel better I plan on uploading a much better version of 129 as well as 130 once both are up. Nobody seems willing to try and test the limits of the DRM system so I figure I'll give it a go using some of the advice posted above.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 02:51:03 No.1478012
Used my own high res file and ran each of these attempts through Optimize (Difference) in Gimp.
>>1472596
Seems to be pretty much perfect. Can't see even a hint of letters appearing. Also is the most similar to the original out of the three I tried.
>>1477526
Couldn't find any numbers at all in this one either.
>>1476718
Again, no numbers to be found.

Side note: Did a quick scan and found 31 number locations in the copy I recieved from primeleap the other day.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 03:24:34 No.1478047
>>1477188
BOOM. This anon gets it. Glorious dubs, btw.

>>1477952
C'mon, folks... we don't need full res images. All the details are there in that anon's post, that's how you defeat stupid DRM.

Retards who insist in fighting piracy will be pushed over to a point where they'll be mostly fucking up their legit custumers: that's when people start quitting and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. If you're small, as cringey as it might sound, you better off coexisting with piracy unless you wanna risk perishing in a losing battle.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 03:27:38 No.1478051
>>1477981
Not that bloody page again from 3 weeks ago mate.

>>1475401
This one, last's week's page that everyone refuses to upload in anything but blurry and thumbnail.

Because you are so so brave applying filters to one's leak who is already banned, but no one wants to try anything new, because if you fuck up and miss one, you are banned too.

>>1477989
New page is up, so we'll see if anyone will be brave this time.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 03:50:45 No.1478069
>>1478051

That's why I'm telling people to give up on posting hi-rez images since they keep on trying to apply a million filters to obscure the watermark or to find them all.

>>1478012
The posterized one is really bad. You can still see watermarks on them, and chances are, they will only need at least 2-3 characters next to each other to find out the leaker. I did however take a look at this

>>1476718

Don't know how I missed it, but it's very useful with my method. I won't post the image again since people don't want to see it, but I took the one I cleaned with my screen shot + 1 smart blur method, put it into waifu2x, upscaled it with artwork, high for noise reduction, and 2x resolution and I got a high res image of mine that actually looks much sharper than what I originally posted with 0 loss in quality. I took a look through with gimp edge detect and found nothing, which should be expected since the image was originally in a low-rez and the smart blur got rid of all possible IDs, so even though it got upscaled, none are even there.

These two methods work well together. Now you can scrub it clean of all IDs and potential image data as well as have it close full-rez in just 5 minutes
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 04:09:56 No.1478072
>>1478069
Oh yeah, you're right, I totally forgot about that when I was typing it out. I remember, though yeah, you can see bits of each watermark all over that one, likely enough to piece the full string together.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 04:26:40 No.1478079
>>1478069

Don't mean to keep bumping my own stuff, but this new method I came up with has got me a bit excited. I just tried it with some of blitzdrachin's images (though I did 1.6x instead of 2x since their images are smaller) and have gotten overwhelming results. No visible IDs when zooming in without edge detect, no visible IDs when using edge detect, and best of all, it's clear as day with no jpg noise. Unless there's something else hiding, I think we got this beat.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 04:54:14 No.1478094
File: page_129_fix_u18chan.png - (611.42kb, 737x946, page_129_fix.png)
Last week's...
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 05:06:43 No.1478104
File: peepee_u18chan.gif - (477.03kb, 700x424, peepee.gif)
THANK YOU SEF FOR BROKEN WEINER

Edited at 2018/08/12 03:32:43
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 05:10:24 No.1478106
I hope you got them all, you were the only one to step up to the plate after weeks of all these other wankers fucking around.

You're a godsend OP.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 05:22:32 No.1478112
>>1478094
>>1478104
Thank god for you. Now we have to play the waiting game to see if you get banned... keep us up to date on what happens, but I hope for the best for you.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 05:38:07 No.1478117
>>1478112
>>1478106

Seems like he used my method alongside something else, though the other thing makes it look cell shaded with the loss of detailed lines. Doubt he will get banned since my method and whatever else he did would wipe away any possible evidence of IDs.

Now we just wait to see if they have anything else up their sleeves or if it was really this simple. If he use gyazo to screenshot and then edited the screenshot, then anything that could be potentially stored into the image should be gone.

OP, you can also use waifu2x and run it through there with Artwork, highest, 2x and you can make it high-rez with a sharper image and no image loss.

Edited at 2018/08/10 05:41:22
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 08:32:10 No.1478185
>>1478094
>>1478104
Well she seems to have worked around the beak thing.
Also it might just be me, but his expression on the first is fucking adorable.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 09:39:19 No.1478200
I want that bird to get a beakful of wolfspunk.

I'd actually consider pledging to sef if that happens after the two *years* of unnecessarily drawn out garbage.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 10:30:12 No.1478218
>>1478104
>dick is drawn the wrong way around

This is what we've waited 2 years for. Fuck Sefeiren, holy shit.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 12:10:25 No.1478265
>>1478218
OH COME ON SEF, REALLY??
So close... but alas there's probably no fixing that..
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 12:53:59 No.1478303
>>1478265
lmao yea, look at the top panel, thats the way it should face.
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 17:19:42 No.1478402
It is necessary to remove superfluous pages from "fap mode"
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 18:32:12 No.1478419
File: 1533888933.sefeiren_nhnf_pg113f_u18chan.jpg - (696.05kb, 936x1200, 1533888933.sefeiren_nhnf_pg113f.jpg)
alternate version of page 113 posted on FA
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 23:31:43 No.1478492
As absurd as it would be to see and I doubt it'll happen, I'd love to see the bird get knotted when the time for actual penetrative sex occurs, would be A+
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Anonymous 2018/08/10 23:32:57 No.1478494
As absurd as it'd be to see, I'd love to see the birb take the knot once actual sex comes around. :p Would be nice.
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Anonymous 2018/08/11 01:06:33 No.1478514
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Anonymous 2018/08/11 01:09:13 No.1478518
really liking the alternate version. The former looked awkward >>1478419
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Anonymous 2018/08/11 02:43:30 No.1478567
>>1478104
Can't unsee the backwards wang please end my suffering
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Anonymous 2018/08/11 06:16:40 No.1478619
>>1478567
FUCK YOU
NOW I HAVE TO YAWN
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Anonymous 2018/08/12 02:48:39 No.1479096
File: u18_page_130_0_u18chan_u18chan.png - (624.43kb, 700x901, u18_page_130_0_u18chan.png)
>>1478104

You edited the wrong post buddy, here it is again
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Anonymous 2018/08/12 03:26:42 No.1479101
>>1479096
Oh gee you're right, wonder how I did that.

Oh well.
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Anonymous 2018/08/17 04:07:28 No.1481420
Alright next pages let's goooooooooo!
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Anonymous 2018/08/17 11:57:42 No.1481502
>>1481420
Dude chill out, give them time to clear the watermarks if it takes them 4 days to do it so be it I am happy whenever they post remember they are doing this as a kindness not because they have too. Your comment comes off as pushy and it annoyed me who comes for the freebies too and if it annoyed me it mighty annoy the kind stranger who does this for us annoy them too much and they might stop posting and then we are shit out of luck.
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Anonymous 2018/08/17 15:13:48 No.1481615
>>1481502

Nah, it only takes 5-10 minutes to do the whole process of cleaning and making it high resolution as optional. Chances are the update was late in the night and the dude who did it last week was already asleep. I remember the previous leaker said sef sometimes update at like 1am on friday.
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Anonymous 2018/08/17 19:42:03 No.1481680
>>1481502

>Oh no please don't show any enthusiasm! The porn gods might be offended with our hubris and stop gracing us with their gifts!

Maybe don't freak out over someone's harmless cheering.
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Star 2018/08/17 22:18:02 No.1481744
>>1481680

By the way the 'cheering' was worded, it could come across as someone being impatient/needy. Guess it depends on how you look at it.
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Anonymous 2018/08/18 08:16:00 No.1481975
Russian version:
coming soon...

Edited at 2018/08/18 10:12:50
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Anonymous 2018/08/18 14:00:42 No.1482059
File: u18_131_u18chan.png - (656.22kb, 743x947, u18_131.PNG)
Here it is!
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Anonymous 2018/08/18 19:44:20 No.1482276
File: https_2F2Fgeorgiaorganics.org2Fwp-content2Fuploads2F20162F042Fanigif_enhanced-16105-1438629028-6_u18chan.gif - (138.59kb, 691x390, https_%2F%2Fgeorgiaorganics.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2Fanigif_enhanced-16105-1438629028-6.gif)
>>1482059
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Anonymous 2018/08/18 21:48:09 No.1482373
File: 1506390972399_u18chan.jpg - (17.55kb, 375x369, 1506390972399.jpg)
>>1482059
IT'S HAPPENING

Edited at 2018/08/19 02:38:34
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Anonymous 2018/08/19 13:42:12 No.1482650
inb4
>your beak a sharp!!
>35 more pages of stalling
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Anonymous 2018/08/19 17:35:39 No.1482744
File: 5e667c6d411a8d9a5957fb7b5600689b_u18chan.jpg - (248.24kb, 602x860, 5e667c6d411a8d9a5957fb7b5600689b.jpg)
But does she have the beak sheath?
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Anonymous 2018/08/20 07:41:44 No.1483101
File: canshetaketheknot_u18chan.png - (116.28kb, 490x532, can she take the knot.png)
>>1482744
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Anonymous 2018/08/20 21:01:12 No.1483374
>>1482744

Does it really even matter?
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Anonymous 2018/08/21 16:59:16 No.1483741
>>1483374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-YfuVQmX8
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ASDASD Bloodstain 2018/08/23 23:17:12 No.1484691
ASDASDAS
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Anonymous 2018/08/24 09:56:41 No.1484883
so...
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These ferals. Big Hyena 2018/08/24 19:20:25 No.1485080
This is going to hurt so goooood
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 14:28:05 No.1485749
Any updates from our brave poster(s)?
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 14:39:37 No.1485752
"I'm afraid this week's page will be delayed a day or two. Life just tackled me in one too many ways this time around, and I want to make sure I'm happy with the end result instead of drawing something I'm not satisfied with. I really appreciate your understanding; I'll be sure to post as soon as it's done."

Also, Primeleap is down?
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 15:51:48 No.1485781
I call bullshit on the sickness, with Primeleap going down same time it seems something's up, when the brave posters grab the next page, I fear whatever it is gonna fuck them. :(

Maybe you poster guys should hold off on the next few pages when it does come out, something's off.
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 17:19:11 No.1485803
I don't think it's a conspiracy that she's sick and the site is down ahah. Last I checked a typical website can't detect someone taking a screenshot. Worst case scenario just take a picture of your screen with a high MP camera and you won't even have to worry about the watermarks that way.

As for sef saying her life is throwing too many things at her that's just retarded... She's been getting paid over $2k a month for a comic that she's stretching out on purpose. One of my siblings is an artist and I showed her a SFW page of this comic and she says she could easily have that level of quality with 3 pages every week while working her full time job. She also thinks he artist is just a lazy moneywhore.

Edited at 2018/08/26 17:23:07
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 17:41:24 No.1485809
>>1485803
Yeah but can she draw a birb giving GOOD SUCC
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 20:10:57 No.1485846
>>1485809

More importantly, can she draw a birb taking the wolf cock?

I have a thing for anthros knotting ferals, doubly so if its size diff-

...What the fuck has my life come to.
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 20:34:11 No.1485855
>>1485846
>>1485809
you give her too much credit, I'm 100% confident this is going to end up in one of those "realistic anatomical differences lead to awkward stalling" arcs again. Because fuck suspension of disbelief in furry porn right?
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Anonymous 2018/08/26 20:57:03 No.1485859
>>1346350
Underrated post. Thanks for making me spit out my steak all over my keyboard.

You bloody genius.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 02:27:15 No.1485949
Next one's up boys
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 02:30:26 No.1485951
transcription: 7 panels of bird giving good succ, then one panel of Devon going "holy ff-"

so I guess we'll find out what he's surprised about next time

not worth leaking tbh
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 02:45:16 No.1485955
>>1485951

Considering the filename seems to have changed this time, appears to be some extra hidden shit.

DO NOT LEAK, we need to figure how what's been done to it first.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 05:15:23 No.1485995
I'd assume he's surprised because his dick is presently burying itself into her throat with surprising speed.

Guys, it's a fucking dollar per month. I just hopped on Patreon, donated a buck, set up a PrimeLeap, and badaboom, new page is available to view. I get balking at something like 10 bucks per page, but $1 per month? Quit being greedy pricks.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 05:27:06 No.1485997
>>1485995
>I get balking at something like 10 bucks per page, but $1 per month? Quit being greedy pricks.

yup

also you can just pay a dollar every few months or something so it goes down to literally four bucks a year instead of twelve
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 06:55:48 No.1486022
>>1485995
I want to see PrimeLeap burn. Any proof that its security can be bypassed works fine for that purpose.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 07:19:06 No.1486025
Primeleap was never down just changed IP addresses. Your dns server saves the IP address of websites you visit so when a website changes IP addresses and you try to go to it your dns will automatically go to the old IP address and give you an error just clear your browser history and try again.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 08:05:34 No.1486035
>>1485995

Greedy pricks you say? Would you mind setting a good example by uploading that page here then?
You do not want to? It's kinda understandable, I don't blame you for it either.
On the other hand It's easy to call others greedy pricks. Especially without being much better.

As for this thread, I think it's not about being greedy any more but rather the challenge of breaking a (seemily) poorly built DRM system. I am neither sure people would put that much effort into it if the artist would not be Sefi. As far as I can see she seems to be rather good at trying to milk her fans even tho she already earns a lot of money. Granted, we don't know exactly what monthly expenses she has, it could be having to pay for health stuff, could also be just an extravagant life style. Then again I do also understand people's anger and frustration. Not that I am trying to justify anything, I am just trying to see both sides...
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 12:22:42 No.1486076
Alright guys, if you're all too pussy to leak the page just say so, instead of getting all defensive.

We might as well just all pay the bleeding dollar at this point to get out of this dumpster fire.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 14:15:04 No.1486126
I agree, 1 dollar a month is super reasonable.
What we need is to put effort into leaking blitzdrachin instead tbh
Just give sef a buck
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:15:06 No.1486167
I refuse to create an account on a third party anti-piracy platform to get content I'm paying for. So no, Sef isn't going to see a red cent from me until she puts out another Frisky Ferals pack. And if it's distributed through Cancerleap as well I won't be purchasing it either. If more people refused to support artists that move to shitcunt services like primeleap they'd get the message real quick that it's unacceptable to harm paying customers because hurrdurrr pirating.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:29:31 No.1486171
>>1486167
Losing battle mate, every year people say to boycott EA and their shitty practices, yet the vocal minority don't realize that no one bats an eye.

Everyone just wants their hurr durr p0rn.

Edited at 2018/08/27 16:30:55
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:31:26 No.1486173
>>1486035

Are you seriously suggesting that my unwillingness to post the page here is equally as greedy as your unwillingness to pay for it? You're just as bad as chicks who say they don't want anything from McDonalds but then start munching on my damn fries.

I'm not willing to compromise my ability to see new pages the moment they're posted. If you guys aren't willing to cough up a dollar, then you'll have to sit and wait like everybody else. Getting pissy that people aren't stealing fast enough is some of the most entitled bullshit I've ever heard.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:36:20 No.1486174
Can anyone please tell me exactly why it is that PrimeLeap is so terrible? I just pledged yesterday, and getting my account set up and ready to view the new page took me exactly 5 minutes. Is PrimeLeap actually bad, or is it just people getting pissy because the artist made it harder for them to steal from her? I'm guessing it's the latter.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:42:01 No.1486178
>>1486126
I've noticed this, no one leaks Blitzdrachin content anymore, they claim its cursed or something, or got tons more protection than even this comic has.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 16:42:58 No.1486179
Site was down because of email fixes and adding HTTPS to the site.

It's kind of stupid to believe there's an extra layer of DRM added to the image that can survive a screenshot to a different file format, edits in photoshop, and then a new image in a different file format through an upscaling program. It'll be too garbled up to make any sense.

Primeleap was never meant to stop piracy. It's impossible to. No form of DRM is unbreakable, especially if it's just an image. It's primary goal, I believe, was to stop patreon scraping from yiff.party. Can't scrape from a site you have no access to, and you can't scrape automatically from the site without picking up images with watermarks on it.

OP hasn't been shot yet, which proves that the method works or that they're waiting just before penetration to shoot him, which doesn't seem likely since anything incriminating should be removed from the image.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 17:10:40 No.1486187
File: u18_page_132_u18chan.png - (657.06kb, 723x927, u18_page_132.png)
So, just a quick clarification on the recent posts since primeleap was added: I'm not the original leaker. I picked up the slack after the other guy got banned and I have a bit a packed schedule so you're gonna have to work with me. If the pages are posted at like 1 am, I probably won't get to them until the afternoon/night that day. So if you see a new page is up just be patient please, I haven't forgotten.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 17:17:14 No.1486191
>>1486187
Thanks bro, no worries. It's not even late either. I think the original was posted late last night.

Just make sure you keep your downloading the image time dynamic so they won't be able to know it's you.

As for the people here, don't worry about them freaking out. If the page isn't posted the moment it comes out, they start thinking up the worst conspiracies.
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 17:34:14 No.1486193
>>1458780
>>1486187
YES

Edited at 2018/08/27 17:34:35
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 21:23:59 No.1486263
Thank you!
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Anonymous 2018/08/27 21:56:38 No.1486272
>>1486187
Thank you so much
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 00:28:38 No.1486368
>>1486174
All DRM is bad and should be discouraged, without exception. If you enjoy watermarked images and being treated like a potential threat even while giving the artist money, be my guest. And make no mistake, Sef went into this because of Kayla-Na and Blitzdrachin. She has just as much disdain and paranoia towards her audience as those two do. The only reason people aren't more upset it because of the price tag, but the only reason it's so low is because her patreon was set up before those two convinced her to go down this path. Don't be surprised when, after this comic finishes, Frisky Ferals starts "rearranging their reward structure"
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 01:29:45 No.1486396
Damn that bird knows how to take a dick
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 01:40:00 No.1486405
>>1486368

The only watermark noticeable to me is a string of numbers along the bottom edge of the comic, outside of the panels. Gotta say, I'm not too bothered. Also, you complain about them being disdainful and paranoid towards their audience, on a thread dedicated to posting her work without her consent, that features a tutorial on removing watermarks she placed there specifically so the images couldn't be stolen. You don't think that maybe, just MAYBE she has reason to be disdainful and paranoid towards us? Gotta say, no, I really don't mind, seeing as I paid a dollar, and got the high-res image 2 days before anyone here did.

Edited at 2018/08/28 01:44:13
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 02:44:24 No.1486450
>>1486187
Thanks for posting these at all, I don't mind waiting a little longer.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 03:00:45 No.1486457
>>1486405
The real irony here is that I'm the one that posted the watermarked image that kicked off this whole thing, and I would have never done that had she not accused me of doing something I didn't do and blocked me. Her paranoia is what caused all of this. And while I was willing to put up with the DRM bullshit before, now I damn sure am willing to undermine both her and the little PrimeLeap circlejerk's operation in any way I can. SHE caused this.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 03:05:36 No.1486458
>>1486457

Man, the level of delusion to justify theft on this site is amazing
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 04:04:46 No.1486474
>>1486458
Seriously don't understand what's so hard to grasp here. She blocked me, so I posted the watermarked image. No one else was posting those images. If she hadn't blocked me, the image wouldn't have been posted. Without that image, the CSI-lite photoshop brigade wouldn't have formulated their plan of attack. What exactly do you think I'm trying to justify? I've said from the start that I did it out of spite.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 04:41:12 No.1486489
>>1486474
You obviously don't understand if you act with all that autism, nobody wants someone who thinks and act like a 4th grader, you deserved that ban, lol.

Edited at 2018/08/28 04:41:49
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 05:01:05 No.1486494
>>1486489
You sure got me, I guess?
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 05:04:38 No.1486496
I wonder if there's any other motive for using prime leap. I read somewhere that somebody wanted to get on board with primeleap because they were tired of having yiff.party scrape their page. Understandable if they just wanted only that, but there's also many easier ways to do that instead of forcing people to sign up for a service that's still in alpha.

Vavacung and some other artists just post their images in their diskords. It can't be scrapped, and it gives the chance for a community to grow so you can get closer to your viewers and such and see them as friends, or at least acquaintances.

I also heard from somebody that Kodar has their own website, but no water marks. Their website just authorizes once through patreon's api, so if you're not a supporter, you can't click the link.

And then there's the simplest of all which is just emailing your supporters the images. Yiff.party can't scrape that.

If artist's were so concerned over just yiff.party's scraper, then they can just do one of those 3 things I listed. Diskord might actually be the best solution for them all since they can actually grow a community.

But since they decided to go with a solution that watermarks everything, you can't help but feel that they can't trust their followers to not leak their content and are more concerned about 1 or 2 leakers rather than a site that automatically pulls all their content.

I do kind of feel for them if they just don't want yiff.party to rip them, but for those who are just concerned about a random guy posting their images, I can't help but feel a bit happy on having finding out the solution to get pass their DRM. It doesn't matter if it's not hi-rez or not. It doesn't matter if it lost 5-20% of it's detail. What matters is their primary defense got broke.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 05:29:10 No.1486509
>>1486496
Blitz's site was PrimeLeap beta. Kayla-Na is one of the first people to sign up for Prime Leap. Both are very shitty people who have shown nothing but disdain for anyone who isn't kissing their ass. Both were the first ones to define what Prime Leap needed as a site. They wanted watermarks. It's more than just distrust. It's hate for their fans, and disdain for the furry community in general. I mean just look at what Blitz and Kayla actually post publicly. Cropped images that are just advertisements, and full images at a resolution that would barely be acceptable 10 years ago. Those two want this to be a business. One that treats the customers like potential criminals. They're basically like the corporate entities that put DRM in games. You're not a fan, you're not part of a community. You're a monthly payment. That's how they view people in general and that's how they've convinced everyone using Prime Leap to view people. I can tell by the way Sef worded both her posts about Prime Leap and her messages to me when I criticized her use of DRM. It's just corporate speak. They built up their community off good will, and now it's time to fuck them. They're a "company" now. Not a person. They don't see you as a person so you shouldn't see them that way.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 07:21:09 No.1486533
>>1485995
It's not that I can't afford it, I support plenty other Patrons [by plenty I mean 2], but I refuse to support artists that put ridiculous DRM in place that end up inconveniencing only legitimate customers because we get past it ANYWAY. So you have to jump through 20 loops to see something when you're a legit payer, when you have to do none of that when you're on here or YP
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 08:12:12 No.1486543
>>1486496
>But since they decided to go with a solution that watermarks everything
If you download the files (which you can do) it does not have a watermark, and you can just upload it anywhere if you want. Same thing with yiff.party and discworld, both require a pledging patron to be willing to share the love.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 13:12:27 No.1486678
>>1486543
>If you download the files (which you can do) it does not have a watermark, and you can just upload it anywhere if you want.

Actually if you look closely when you download the image to "remove" the huge watermarks there is still a watermark in the downloaded image. It's hard to see because its nearly transparent hidden but large in the background of the comic. It's a combination of numbers and letters that are in every panel of her comic pages. So if you post that downloaded image they can certainly track down the one who leaked it.

Edited at 2018/08/28 13:15:19
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 17:32:34 No.1486798
>>1486533

Why would WalMart put anti-theft sensors on their doors? People steal shit anyway, they'll just find a way to get past them! What's the point? God, just let us have it for free why don't they?
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 18:45:31 No.1486813
I created a crack for the Primeleap. It can pick up all the watermarks but requires two versions of the picture, each from a different primeleap account.

Photoshop action: https://mega.nz/#!JTBBGABA!FfLkmJvw4CNK5LY0GkdfPydkLJk46QfIqZ982qxka4c
Readme: https://mega.nz/#!VKInzKAQ!LneJ22RdCx0tRnui2-COhwq4mbdb57YLBHOOAcaCoqg


It's a photoshop action, so some experience with photoshop is required.

The crack creates slight smudges where the watermarks used to be, but the quality seems mostly ok.

DRM is stupid, and this watermarking attempt was pretty bad.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 18:57:18 No.1486816
File: 71dc2d1e976493e25439a8b40eee8e9b_u18chan.png - (92.46kb, 702x900, 71dc2d1e976493e25439a8b40eee8e9b.png)
>>1486813
I also made this to illustrate the watermark distribution in the pictures.
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Anonymous 2018/08/28 23:00:44 No.1486889
>>1486798
Actually, not that I'm endorsing actual/genuine theft (ie, not piracy, which is what's happening here), but wal-mart actually does account for losses due to theft and accepts that as a inherent part of running a business. Not that they encourage that, or make it easy to do so, but they know that nothings 100% fool proof and enact accordingly.
By a similar line of reasoning, why would GOG as a service be successful? Games without shitty DRM are just waiting to be pirated and no one will ever buy games again, right?
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 00:11:58 No.1486908
>>1486678
This, but there's actually way more than 1 per panel. If you check earlier in the thread you can see just how many people found. It's frankly quite overkill.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 01:18:16 No.1486941
Jig's up lads. Got the message from Sef today, no longer have primeleap access. Honestly, it was a lot more respectful than I expected so I probably will not be starting another theft account. Good luck finding the new DRM, lads.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 02:13:02 No.1486946
>>1486941
Are you serious? All that talk above on how to break the system and in the end we never really achieved anything, this is utter bullshit...So no more uploads because we'll get caught then?
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 02:23:17 No.1486948
OK I don't know how prime leap or any anti piracy website works. But, in top of my head I could already think of ways to bypass this. If the snipping tool doesn't work use the print screen method (search it up), use obs to record the screen if it doesn't work use a capture card or another computer to connect to the first computer and record it from there (in that point even the computer itself doesn't know it is being recorded), you could use a laptop and a computer for this (search it up).
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 02:31:54 No.1486950
>>1486941
If you don't mind me asking, can you post the original of yours then? I'd like to compare it against mine just to see if there's anything.

Probably should post it to imgur and link it here since I know u18 does strip some stuff.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 03:18:41 No.1486978
Consider a pixel that is dark blue in two images, and a slightly lighter or darker shade of blue in a third. In this case, the median stack filter would choose the dark blue unaltered pixel because it would put pick the median value. Note that the median value is not an average. An average would leave a ghost of the lighter or darker pixel behind. The median does not mix the values, it simply picks the one of the three that is in the middle.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 03:24:55 No.1486983
My post got cut off while I was trying to figure out how to post here. As I was trying to say... a median stack filter on three images from three accounts should remove all the unique watermarks.

With only two images to work from, you could difference blend the images to find all the watermarks that way, though removing them cleanly would be difficult and would have to be done by hand.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 03:40:59 No.1486994
Far out, we're doing way more work and taking time out of our day than before to leak, but that primeleap fucker is getting paid thousands while we get this? This fucking sucks. Wouldn't be surprised if that is the purpose of all this, eventually make it such a time consuming process it isn't worth it anymore. Primeleap gets paid and we don't afterall.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 03:51:56 No.1486998
>>1486941
>>1486950

i saw a major difference in the most recent pic and mines. the right haa in the middle pannel is much closer to the beak than mines. dont know if thats the only difference or a sideeffect of what you did but its the only thing i can spot. that or you posted the image 5 minutes after you downloaded it which could be the case since they can probably track you based on your download time.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 03:57:23 No.1487000
>>1486998
Can confirm, some dialogue changed location slightly when downloading the same image 1 hour apart.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 04:54:01 No.1487019
>>1487000
Is that really all it? Just some dialogue has been moved around? I don't know how you can tell who posted it unless it's unique for each download.

Or it can be it's the same, but changes position once in a while, and they can just map that position and the people who downloaded the image when it was at that location. In other words, the sooner you download it, the less of a chance there is getting caught, or so I think.

It can be that, or it could be what the other dude said about OP downloading and posting withing 5 minutes of each other, in which case that's kind of a stupid thing to do.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 05:17:51 No.1487024
>>1487000
Try re-downloading every hour or so to see if it consistently changes every hour.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 08:05:27 No.1487047
>the best god damn solution is to just take a external screen shot
>b..but it's not HIGH res enough
>m..muh photoshop will take this away EZpz
>gets B& by uploading "cracked" version
you Nig,gers have only yourselves to blame, you don't need 4k high res porn. and now look what happened they got banned so congrats on being fucking dumb and not listening. by far the dumbest fucks are the photoshopfags, you don't need to go to some csi level bs that doesn't even work. when taking a literal external screen shot fixes it but nooo. I WANT MY HIGH RES LEWDS

Edited at 2018/08/29 08:06:34
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 09:03:35 No.1487065
>>1487047
As much as I want to disagree, I just can't deny that we really did all this shit for nothing.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 14:47:28 No.1487108
>>1487047
dumbass can't read anything except the n word, correct?

Poster didn't get banned because of watermarks. The image wasn't even hi-rez either. It was 1/4th the size of the actual image.

In case you're too incapable to read, the text for the images are changing position which you can't bypass with your chinese phone. That, and OP hasn't told us if he uploaded the image 5 minutes after he downloaded. If he did, it will explain his ban because it was obvious.
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Anony 2018/08/29 14:55:43 No.1487110
Well you guys can always let us know in a text-based format on what's going on!
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 15:13:10 No.1487115
>>1487108
Dude, they are artists with knowledge of any editing image software, they can easily restore a pic after being edited including some numbers of the watermarks. Specially if each step you are doing is being mentioned here.

I have the same page, and text didn't change position, probably Sef edited the file to correct little mistakes.

Next time post a photo taken by your phone and there is no way to recover the text strings if the quality is messed up. People don't need a 4K version to touch their tiny penises.

Edited at 2018/08/29 15:14:41
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 15:45:26 No.1487121
>>1487115
You need to stop being ignorant, man. You can't restore image data after it's been edited on a file type that doesn't support layers, like a jpg. You can't just take an image that has a black box added over some text and then just wipe it off. It doesn't work like that.

As for photoshop, nothing at all advanced is being done there. It's just 1 smart blur at default settings to tidy the image up. Even if the smart blur isn't done, the water marks can't be seen since the image is way too small for them to be seen. It's just done for a safe measure. Like I said before, you can't just take the image and put it into photoshop and say "undo" on a file type that doesn't support multi layers.

And please stop being ignorant about the text in the middle panel changing. Check now, check in an hour, check in 3 hours, check tomorrow, I can guarantee that it will change positions at least once. If it doesn't, prove it, since it changed for multiple people, each in different spots
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 15:58:20 No.1487122
>>1487121

I have been downloading it multiple times and it doesn't change, the position is the same as the leaked pic. That confirms Sefeiren just edited the file to correct minimal mistakes.
>''prove it''
Fuck off dude, I'm not getting my ass banned just to show you are fucking wrong.
>''Stop being ignorant''
Images CAN be restored if they aren't messed up like >>1475401
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 16:16:24 No.1487125
>>1487122
But I thought an external phone screenshot is that way to go? Why show doubt about it now when you were just acting so big and smart about how it's fool proof?

It's nice to know you're just talking out your ass about this. Why would sef need to updated the position of the sound effect text more than once? That's the only thing that changes at certain intervals. It's in a different spot for different people at different times of the day. Yeah, it might be the same for others, but they probably just check the position and see who downloaded the image when it was at that spot.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 16:19:45 No.1487127
>>1487122
...third party here, and I have to say that you don't seem to understand what he's trying to say primarily because you don't really understand editing software or the way image files work, just like he says you don't... Your ignorance is kind of glaring.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 16:48:34 No.1487138
>>1487125
>says other are wrong and ignorant
>yet puts on the tinfoil hat, she has these convoluted plans to protect her stuff i swear guys
>isn't even a backer, he just spews shit he thinks he knows
Ironic you call others ignorant
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 18:36:59 No.1487159
Actually, ya know what? Fuck it, I'm gonna start donating to Sef

DRM or not she's surely completed her goal of ensuring that leaked files can't be leaked as easily and I don't wanna associate with you people, now all you guys are doing is pitching a bitch-fit over who's more entitled to get high-res art early and for free.

If you're so cheap and stingy that you can't donate a dollar a month and you'd rather spend hours bitching about shit you may or may not be knowledgeable of, that's on you. Fuck this, I'm out.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 20:22:18 No.1487175
File: 26284544_319114268607816_2527343904416595968_n_u18chan.jpg - (32.57kb, 480x480, 26284544_319114268607816_2527343904416595968_n.jpg)
>>1487159
Well, I'm not going to give her 1$ dollar a month because I am literally too poor to afford that. instead I will wait patiently for any generous and/or spiteful leakers to bless us with their work.
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Anonymous 2018/08/29 20:35:36 No.1487180
>>1487175

Good on ya then, I'm just tired of people calling Sef a bitch because she wanted to protect one of her ways of making income.

If anyone were in her position they'd make the jump to primeleap as well, Cunty or not Blitzdrachyn and Kayla-Na have provided a good way to ensure your content isn't leaked. People forget that they could be purely business partners with a common enemy, that being sites like Yiff.Party or U18Chan leakers.

Edited at 2018/08/29 20:36:20
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 02:00:32 No.1487334
>>1487159
>>1487180

the point is (you fucking retards are not getting) is that nobody wants their fucking patreon account linked in any way to this piece of shit primeleap, even less to be related or support in any way the almost literal cancer that those users and their fanbases are. i certainly don't want that stain in my account, thank you.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 02:32:55 No.1487347
>>1487334
Fuck you dude, I'm going to sign up to Sef and PL just to spite your ass.

Plus that means I don't have to hang out here anymore for the comic, if the dollar wasn't worth it before, getting away from your broke ass? Priceless. I hope the leakers leave you in the dust, this isn't the 'community' I want to support, better just to give the artist their dues, can't be more entitled than you are.

And despite what your tiny brain thinks, no one honestly cares about linking patreon and Primeleap, its like linking Facebook to login to Uber, they seriously don't care, just you.

Edited at 2018/08/30 02:38:31
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 03:24:33 No.1487366
>>1487334

Do me a favor: Explain why. Call me a retard all you want, throw in cuck and flaming homosexual while youre at it, I really don't give a shit, I just want you to tell me why PrimeLeap is so bad. Why is the idea of connecting your Patreon to it so horrible? Explain that, please and thank you.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 03:41:00 No.1487369
>>1487366
Mate, the dude's got 20 IQ, he can only give a personal, baseless reason with heapings of racism on the side. Its too much to ask.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 04:27:11 No.1487384
I'm just here to make funny edits.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 05:22:51 No.1487400
>>1487384

And for that we thank you. There's only two things which can defuse shitshows like the stuff above, and that's either a new page being released or an edit like yours causing us to have a laugh.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 08:22:32 No.1487434
>>1487347
good, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out f@ggot. and you better not come back but we all know you will because you are that much of a cuck
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 15:39:53 No.1487571
>>1487434

When you're so angry you end up calling yourself a cuck by extension while bypassing the swear filter on a furry porn message board.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 16:52:59 No.1487588
>>1486798
This is 100% a false equivalency. Piracy =/= theft, artists on Patreon are not selling a product I get to keep, they're -renting out- rights to view content. I don't get to keep anything for the money I spent on them. Good try, though.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 18:09:33 No.1487758
>>1487588

Interesting then that I have a folder on my computer that holds high-res versions of the pages I downloaded from PrimeLeap, and can take wherever I wish, i.e. keep.

They're charging for a service. You are tryign to subvert that charge. That is theft. I know you've set up thousands of justifications about why you should have the right to view this comic earlier than when she posts it for all to see, despite her putting block after block up to prevent exactly that. Unfortunately, it will always boil down to an unfounded feeling of entitlement.
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 19:24:27 No.1487790
Just wait a few weeks and then look at the free stuff and it'll be like you're getting a new page every weeks same as before while also giving no reason to have them drawn. Same as before. If the idea makes you mad I sincerely find that funny. Time in general is too precious to waste on shit like this/
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Anonymous 2018/08/30 20:28:58 No.1487802
"They're charging for a service. You are tryign to subvert that charge. That is theft."

No, that is copyright violation. Words have meanings. In this case, legal meanings. It is not theft. It is unauthorized copying. And in any case, my viewing images that I would not otherwise pay for regardless does not take money out of the artist's pocket.

Now maybe I might have eventually decided to chip in a $1 a month for this, because it is nice work, and waiting for Yiff Party to update was frustrating, but now that she's moved her stuff off Patreon and made it a pain in the ass to view because I have to check two different sites for updates, there's no chance I'm gonna contribute. Don't be greedy just to stop a few people from looking at your stuff for free. There's a lot of artists I've discovered on Patreon through Yifff Party that don't post enough free art on Patreon for me to actually determine if their work is worth contributing to. In that sense Yiff is doing them a favor because I may one day decide to start giving to them as a result when otherwise there would be no chance as I would never know if their work was good enough to pay for.
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Anyone have this comic? Unprotected Rootbeerz~ 2018/08/30 20:49:31 No.1487805
>>1486187
Take the knot! Do eet!
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 03:17:37 No.1487932
>>1487347
spite my ass? wtf are you talking about? you're free to do whatever the fuck you want, you shouldn't really be looking for approval around here.

all the services you are refering to are well respected and solidly stablished in their own fields, i would barely have a reason to feel unsafe by linking or using them. primeleap, on the other hand, appeared last thursday as the go-to magical solution for artists.
as for users? you'll be treated as burglar under watchlights even if you're legit trying to setup an account. then, you gotta get over the very barebones interface and figure out a way to link your patreon by yourself. it's hardly usable and very confusing. but you would know it if:
a. you used it;
b. you ain't a shill/asslicker/whiteknight;
c. ain't a retard lacking critical thinking;

gotta wonder if blitz' website is as shit as this.

>>1487366
no, i will not call you any of that. you're trying (very hard) to label me as something i am not. also calling me dumb again.

>>1487369
nope, no racism. you'll have to read that again for yourself. also, why are you triple posting? maybe you want us to think you're three different anons? at least i'm not spreading my "20 iq" accross multiple posts like you are.


No, seriously you people, y'know, the actual U18chan anons:
Don't you notice a pattern here? It all started with
>>1486941

Then it became a downward spiral of shills trying to spread a feeling of defeat, they want to convince the very last able anons, the ones that could figure something out, to just say "To hell with it, it's doomed" and quit. That's the objective.

If you think the shills are right, if you really think someone was banned, then yeah, we sure lost.

Am I talking out of my ass? Who knows for sure? I know I'll keep questioning everything.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 03:24:31 No.1487934
File: 72e_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (10.59kb, 251x247, 72e_u18chan.jpg)
>>1487159
Well, I'm not going to give her 1$ dollar a month because I am literally too poor to afford that. instead I will wait patiently for any generous and/or spiteful leakers to bless us with their work.

Because you're the typical jobless furry who doesn't contribute to society, and makes no effort to because you only get hand outs.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 03:26:22 No.1487940
File: eris_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (55.55kb, 500x375, eris_u18chan.jpg)
>>1487159
Well, I'm not going to give her 1$ dollar a month because I am literally too poor to afford that. instead I will wait patiently for any generous and/or spiteful leakers to bless us with their work.

Because you're the typical jobless furry who doesn't contribute to society, and makes no effort to because you only get hand outs.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 05:06:48 No.1487964
for better or for worse, next one's out

the bird succ continues, no cum or anything

"surprised" bit from last panel of last page didn't lead to anything

devon dialogue: "Oh my God, Addy-" "T-that's"

cum prediction: in two pages (if there's no bloody interruption)

oh, and I just had a galaxy-brain strat: we can just screenshot the images off her stream

...oh, maybe that's why I haven't gotten any stream emails recently
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Advarious 2018/08/31 05:21:01 No.1487966
>>1487964

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odiGV2fXFPE
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 05:24:09 No.1487969
File: camel-trek-963x400_u18chan.jpg - (48.25kb, 963x400, camel-trek-963x400.jpg)
Hello fellas! I have bringed you camels for this sandstorm, have a nice day.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 05:48:26 No.1487979
I doubt it's over, but it's pretty much just back to square one again. The only noticeable addition to the DRM is moving text as was discussed here. It's not known whether or not that the positions are the same for everybody and changes location after a while, or it's completely random for each person and changes location after a while (The former makes more sense).

Why you may ask? Because 10 to 1 there's an activity log on the site, and 10 to 1 they can view who downloads the image at a given time. So it's easy to just go "Oh, person x was the only one who downloaded the image when the text was in this position. We can go ahead and ban them". It's either that, or the text position has nothing to do with anything, but they still have a download log. The new OP has been absent since his last post and he never did answer the question about him downloading the image and uploading it 5 minutes later. If that's the case, that was a stupid error on his part.

But if that is actually the new DRM, it's pretty clever. The longer you wait to download the image, the higher chances you have on getting caught. If you get it the moment it's posted, the pool is far too large to make an assumption on who did it. The only question is is that is there anything else that was added that's invisible? Can't say for sure. Your only way of finding out is making a dummy account on a dummy computer with a dummy email, prepaid card, and network. In other words, just use a library or any other public computer and see if the account gets banned, but we all know that coming up with these ideas is a waste of time since nobody will actually do it.

In any case, the only thing any of us can do is make observations and come up with possible assumptions as to what the system is. That, of course, requires trial and error, and like before, we all know nobody will actually try.

Also, downloading the image might rig it with something. Who knows. And it's not like you can screen shot of the site either since they might have the ability to detect that (though a quick read up shows it's not possible to do in any web language), but it's always good to stay cautionary.

PS for sef, I don't mind paywalls, but it just goes against my morals of adding DRM to things. Not just for images, but for games, audio, or video. It's nothing against you, but to DRM in general. DRM is nothing but a small roadblock to prevent piracy and DRM has been and always will be broke. So when it inevitable does happen, don't take it personally by adding more DRM since it will only continue the cycle and eventually ruin image quality.

Edited at 2018/08/31 05:51:44
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 06:07:48 No.1487984
>>1487979
Lot of dummy work just to test things, must be part of their strat. You're right thou, I don't think anyone will go through so much trouble for this shit, I wouldn't.

And to be fair, new OP not saying anything after he's banned makes sense, he's been done in, and thus finished with all this.

Edited at 2018/08/31 06:13:05
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Derp 2018/08/31 08:38:50 No.1488016
Wouldn't be surprised if that one guy sperging about Primeleap just so happens to be the same guy spamming every week about how much they want to see the bird get fucked.

Control your fetish, lol...
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Anonthemouse 2018/08/31 10:53:32 No.1488035
Is it hard to just make a new account?
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 13:25:04 No.1488067
>>1487979
You know what the sad thing is. All this brainpower, deductive skills and computer knowledge and you waste it on trying to hack and redistribute furry porn that’ll eventually be posted for free anyway. I sure hope you got some sort of normal job and this isn’t all you’re wasting your life on.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 15:41:26 No.1488130
>>1488016

Nah, the dude wanting to see the bird take the knot is me and like..1 other guy. The Anon-posting is a bitch but I'd rather not make an account on here.

I'm the guy who threw his hands up in the air and said I was gonna go donate to Sef, buuut then I realized that I should more than likely save up for holiday bullshit.

tbh I could kinda see both arguments for either side [though for one side I have to tilt my head squint and then bludgeon myself with a hammer] but ultimately the truth is this:

Story or not, feral furry comics are basically fetish porn with a lot of specifics, Sefeiren is completely aware of that. Can I blame him for padding it out if he even is doing such a thing? Hell no, even if she's an artist tryna' make a comic she runs a business. I'm pretty sure if any of us had Sefeirens art skills we'd all draw out the comic and then set it to have drip-feed release like her. Cold as it is to say: She most likely cares just as much about profit as her community of fans. You don't need a masters in job economics to say that what she's doing is smart, even if the images can still be leaked, now she's been able to B& what few leakers we have, will there be more? I doubt it. No one will be willing to put faith in a group of anonymous fur-chan posters. And let's be real here: Who the hell would want to leak images to a public site like this?
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 16:00:02 No.1488135
>>1488130
Very few people, that's for sure. And it seems one by one, each page that comes that is not scrubbed well enough, they are being eliminated. :(

There was a new page today, will that come? Or have we all effectively given up around here?

Edited at 2018/08/31 16:01:46
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 16:24:12 No.1488144
>>1488067
Nah, I got a day job, a hobby, and school. I just come here during free time from those.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 16:25:08 No.1488145
I've been following this PrimeLeap thing ever since it was first built into Blitz's site. I've seen what mangled horrors this thing can produce. Blitz's stuff used to look like a rainbow vomited numbers all over the page. It pretty much ruined the image.

I don't have a single complaint about Sef's pages. Everything that could identify someone is tucked away in a corner or barely visible; it doesn't deteriorate the quality of the picture.

That being said, maybe it's not the brightest idea to push her into a corner. I'd rather she not use any intrusive methods to protect her art.

DRM or no, please don't piss her off. From what I've seen here she's been nothing but kind to people who steal from her. The comic is finally getting good and it'd really suck to see her just drop it / cliffhanger because of this.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 17:05:51 No.1488167
>>1488145
I'm sure she's nice to those who just leak but aren't dicks about it. I can also understand why somebody want's there art on a site where it can't be scrapped by a website. The only thing I don't like is DRM. It just puts a bad taste in my mouth. One might think it's just to protect your work, but it can also be viewed by your customers that you don't trust them enough not to leak, and adding more DRM will just encourage people to leak. I'm not going to argue semantics about it. It's just human nature to feel unease when they feel like their every action is being watched.

I personally just don't want to see primeleap become a standard for the people I watch. I can say that I support a couple of people who I really enjoy and never had any intention of leaking their work to a public place and it would just pain me to see if they suddenly moved to primeleap all because 1 person decided to leak to a public place and now they can't trust their whole viewer base because of it.

If an artist just wants to prevent a scrapper, there are more viable options than primeleap. No need to throw your entire base under watch because of 1 guy.

It just comes down to me just not wanting DRM to succeed to the point where everybody is using it. That means I can't share it with friends in a private place since they might cross post it somewhere else. That means I'm just a number rather than a supporter and some other sappy feelings.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 17:53:40 No.1488207
Guess we better not expect that next page because of all this, better extend that to the next few weeks/months if its pretty bad.
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Anonymous 2018/08/31 20:53:40 No.1488390
>>1488207
>''better extend that to the next few weeks/months''

http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/sefeiren/folder/208130/No-Harm-No-Fowl

https://e621.net/pool/show/9114?page=5

You have to wait less than 1 month.
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"A few weeks" Anonymous 2018/08/31 23:43:39 No.1488444
Less than a month? Learn to count, buddy. Page 113 was posted 2 weeks ago. We are now on Page 133. It gets posted once a week. That's a 20 page disparity, meaning if she starts posting the free page again, It will take 5 months to get to this current week's post.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 00:25:04 No.1488459
>>1487159
Because you're the typical jobless furry who doesn't contribute to society, and makes no effort to because you only get hand outs.

You know for some of us rent, bills, and health care costs us all our money. You don't know where they live, how high rent is, or if they volunteer their time or not. I know disableds who volunteer so they still do things for society they just can't work full time jobs. Settle down.
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o yeah 2018/09/01 02:23:23 No.1488493
>>1488459

> You know for some of us rent, bills, and health care costs.

that is, does it give you the right to break into any movie theater and watch a movie for free? or come to the store and read a free book? or can it break into the Bentley salon and demand to give you a car, because you can not pay for it?

> You do not know where they live, how high they are, or if they are volunteer their time or not.

and of course an artist who spends a lot of hours of his personal time on this, does not have such problems. Never. The artist must work for every lazy ass, only on the basis that the lazy ass indulgently expresses interest in the products created by the artist. What a comfortable philosophy ... do you apply it only to an artist or at a movie theater that also works? Did you try to get an example of a yacht at least 100 meters long? or a private house? House builders live clearly better than you, this should definitely give you the right to get their labor for free, right?


> I know disableds who volunteer so they still do things for society they just can not work full time jobs. Settle down.

and I know a lot of people who can earn a few dollars and are not a greedy bummer who prefers to steal something to satisfy their greed, instead of spending that time on work. But this example will not lift your pathetic ass off the couch, right? you'll come up with a million crazy reasons and ridiculous arguments that at least a little will justify in your fictional world the fact that you're just a thief. cowardly and sneaky, because you prefer to steal only from artists who are difficult to protect their work from the greedy sticky paws of such useless garbage like you.

Do you know how a person differs from a biomass? man makes life better, not only his own - but also those around him. A biomass can only parasitize on the labor of people. biomass does not need a civilization, it does not create anything and can not create. He is only able to eat out of the garbage and leave smelly piles of shit. This is a huge difference between people trying to earn their labor and abomination like you.

Edited at 2018/09/01 02:28:54
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o yeah 2018/09/01 02:26:53 No.1488494
You are too cowardly to steal from corporations, if there is any risk that they will stab your dumb cowardly ass. You are too cowardly to rob someone's house, because in most countries robbers can simply be shot for violating the boundaries of private property. No, your courage is enough only to robbery on the Internet, and your incredibly low IQ saves you from such a phenomenon as conscience. you are too stupid to come to such thoughts yourself. And even when I sounded it for you - you are in any case too stupid and greedy to grow a conscience.

just be aware of this and put up with this thought. maybe your crooked mirror will gradually allow you to do a better vazhu miserable absurd life, if you learn to see the world in a more honest way? then it is unlikely, but perhaps there is a chance ...

Edited at 2018/09/01 02:28:07
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 02:39:14 No.1488499
JFC lol, the discussion has really devolved into quite a shit storm.

See I do contribute to quite a few patreons, this one included, but there's also the issue of not be able to support every artist I like, plus some cost more than others to get good content. At the very least, this comic is eventually going to get a public release, a lot of this artists comics and packs you can only get a hold of either via here or buying art packs, which also unlock on prime leap for each one you buy, although I don't get how they all link together, it somehow knew what support packs I bought before and unlocked the hi res versions on prime leap, like no hyenas, for example, that was a pleasant surprise.

So I go to u18chan to fill get in on content I can't get, but I don't contribute. Why?

Well, quite frankly, because the community is ass, it's your guys attitude. I see the comments and it just makes me lose any sort of motivation or incentive I could have to post stuff, plus I'd need to google how to find and remove water marks, it's why people only post previews now of sexy fur.

It's not worth the risk and you have to consider who you're risking everything for.

I don't even care if I rustle jimmies and the mods punish me for mentioning I could post but choose not to, I still have access to most of the content I care about, I'm just trying to illustrate a point.

You guys need to work on the attitude and the entitlement. Just some food for thought.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 03:18:50 No.1488516
>>1488207
I've been doing the text summaries and also posted the very blurry one. I'll post another blurry one if nobody steps up and removes the watermarks.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 03:19:32 No.1488518
Came to see what was popping after getting my fill of the page last week, and well, let's just say I skimmed all this shit, and I guess no more pages here then.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 03:21:47 No.1488519
>>1488516
Well R.I.P.

This is where we've dwindled down to bois. Blurry Thumbnails and text based adventure. Fucking gay as fuck.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 03:24:09 No.1488520
File: putin_u18chan.gif - (958.51kb, 500x223, putin.gif)
>>1488493
>>1488494
>>1488499

Not interested on this comic at all, but I've been reading all the shitstorm here. This site seriously needs more people like this.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 05:50:37 No.1488564
Could always just resort to phone images if anybody seriously wants to do that.

I made some observations. Doesn't look like the text is moving at all. The last page must've just been a trap for the new OP. He still never said anything about his posting times, so I'm beginning to believe that the new OP posted the image moments after downloading it which is why he got caught. The moving text just made it easier to know it was him.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 06:06:04 No.1488568
File: nhnf_133_nerfed_u18chan.jpg - (533.8kb, 1500x2000, nhnf_133_nerfed.jpg)
>>1488564
actually, pretty solid idea

you're all welcome for the moire patterns

did this on a burner acct, too, just in case

we'll see if this was good enough
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Advarious 2018/09/01 06:07:14 No.1488569
File: images95_u18chan.jpg - (8.78kb, 250x202, images(95).jpg)
>>1488499
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 06:12:00 No.1488571
>>1488568
anyway, if this somehow gets traced I swear to !@#$%^&* god

sincerely, the blurry anon
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Spike 2018/09/01 06:20:51 No.1488575
>>1488568
A razor sharp beak against skinless flesh dick? I just can't imagine that situation to be working.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 07:02:44 No.1488587
>>1488568

Honestly, that's good enough for me. I really appreciate it. Thank you !
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 07:12:32 No.1488589
>>1488571
And if it doesn't get ya banned, please do next week's too, no one else is going to step up anymore. :C
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 15:57:14 No.1488745
>>1488571
>>1488568

Probably shouldn't leak too much information about your account. I doubt it could be traced by any image detail, but if you just made the account and say it's a burner account, they can probably link the time for creation to you saying that.

Also, they can probably link the time you've accessed/downloaded the image to the time posted here. I swear that's how the last guy got banned.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 16:34:01 No.1488758
File: 1426922409523_u18chan.gif - (1.79mb, 338x207, 1426922409523.gif)
It's amazing how when sef moves to primeleap it causes this entire thread to have an existential meltdown. Good work.
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Anony 2018/09/01 19:07:31 No.1488821
I also made a few burners to test the different image per download, but they appear the same.
In any case, the blurry way is the new way forward.
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 22:29:13 No.1489028
>>1488758

It's actually more amazing that even tho Sefi thinks she's a clever girl and starts using PrimeLeap, people still find a way to (prime)leak the comic. The comic isn't that interesting that much any more, it's rather the ideas people come up with now.

And on a side note: I do wonder if Sefi's actually one of "us" here? That would be funny x)
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Anonymous 2018/09/01 23:11:22 No.1489047
Couldn’t stand it anymore. Just subscribed to sef on patron. Cya peasants
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 00:32:29 No.1489071
>>1489028
Everyone keeps saying this, like oh Sef isn't getting away with anything when we still manage to leak it, but you aren't really, are you? Sef's patrons are guaranteed to see new pages as soon as they come out and they're high res. Here, you get a blurry picture of someone's monitor from 5 feet away, after waiting for a week or more, and you're pretending like that's somehow beating the Primeleap system? You're absolutely ridiculous.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 00:39:23 No.1489087
>>1489028
It definately seems like there are more than a few shills in this thread
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 04:26:11 No.1489131
lol, surprise surprise. She started using PrimeLeap, made sure that it could stop leakers, then switched to a $5 system.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 04:42:46 No.1489137
>>1486368
You predicted it dude, but she's doing it far earlier now lmao.

>Devin about to cum in Addy's Mouth
>"Hey guys, boo hoo, I'm working too hard for too little money. It's going to be $5 from here on out."

Sefeiren, dear, I never talked bad about you, but this is sincerely a shit move. I literally hope you fail with this now. Way to be a money grubbing bitch.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:41:24 No.1489150
>>1489131

Wait,she did that on the 1st/2nd of the month without warning? So everyone who supports,expecting to see the comic, now gets charged thanks charge up front but they get nothing in return? Seriously?
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:42:00 No.1489151
>>1489137
Maybe now people can stop assuming good faith in Sef. Not only did she do this, she waited until the most anticipated part of her comic. She did it at the start of the month with no warning. Everything about this was set up from the start with the move to Prime Leap. And all her "politeness" is just PR speak. I could tell from the start of her conversations with me.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:42:08 No.1489152
tbh I'd be fine with a reduced posting schedule, maybe even 3 a month - these can't be that easy to make

but bumping it to 5 bucks?! fuck right off
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:43:18 No.1489153
Holy shit! She switched to primeleap right as the good shit started to go down. And then switched to $5 /month (right as people were getting charged for the month) right as the grand finale is about to go down. What a greedy shit head
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:52:06 No.1489157
File: NoHarmNoFowl-129_D45A5B64EE11_u18chan.png - (5.99mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 129_D45A5B64EE11.png)
Comic is definitely not worth the $5/month to me. Here's everything that's been primeleaped so far. Have fun.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:52:08 No.1489158
File: NoHarmNoFowl-130_6EA6FD50EA62_u18chan.png - (6.81mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 130_6EA6FD50EA62.png)
>>1489157
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:52:10 No.1489159
File: NoHarmNoFowl-131_2DE1554EE354_u18chan.png - (6.08mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 131_2DE1554EE354.png)
>>1489157
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:52:12 No.1489160
File: NoHarmNoFowl-132_0501C460CCC6_u18chan.png - (6.11mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 132_0501C460CCC6.png)
>>1489157
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 05:52:14 No.1489161
File: NoHarmNoFowl-133_5616EC50CDA0_u18chan.png - (9.18mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 133_5616EC50CDA0.png)
>>1489157
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:20:24 No.1489167
>>1489137
Oh, and since with this news, I'm just going to spill my recent method of leaking the images so anyone else who would willing spend $5 a month for less pages a month. This should also work for all creators.

It's simple. It's the same thing as before, but an extra step and 2 monitors will pretty much be required. I'll just list them all.

1*) View/Download the image as soon as possible. The largest pool of people viewing and downloading the pages is basically in the first hour.

2) Download OBS (it's free). Make a scene and add a display capture for the monitor (Let's call this Monitor 1) that has the image up in a browser or photoviewer.

3) Right click the preview and choose full screen projector and choose the other monitor you have (The one that doesn't have the image on it. Let's call this Monitor 2).

4*) Run Gyazo, Windows Snipping Tool, or anything to take screenshots outside of a browser and take a screenshot of the full screen projection on monitor 2.

5) Open the image in photoshop, cover any obvious watermarks (Usually just 1. If you take a screen capture of the view instead of the download, there might be more obvious watermarks. One page had 7 obvious watermarks on the preview. This was when the updates here started to happen again.)

6) Run a smart blur with both settings at 3.7. Do this a couple of time. 5 is probably the max you'll need to do if you want to be super duper safe, but generally 1 is enough. Make sure to save as a jpg.

7) Download Waifu2x-Caffe. It's an upscaling and denoising program. You can upscale it with the denoise setting at level 3 and the upscale to 2.5 for a larger image, but this step is also for a more smoother blending and will overall make the image clearer than the screenshot you took. Make sure you set the output as jpg.

8) Wait a god damn day or three. Don't upload instantly after you do this. It's easy to see when somebody accessed the image and compare it to the posting time. If you ignore this step, you risk yourself getting banned since this is probably why the last OP got banned.

9) Post it.

*I doubt you can get the time a screenshot was made with an exif data viewer, but if you're unable to get the image withing the first hour, you can be safe and wait a day between downloading the image and taking the screen shot of it. The more time you wait between these steps, the lower your chances of you being caught based on downloading-posting times.

I added the OBS step because I also assume that even though you screen shot the image, some data is still being picked up with it and places it into its own meta data. The full screen projection acts as if you're taking a screen shot from a different computer since the meta data in gyazo will just say OBS instead of the name of the picture or website. That way you know for sure it's a completely naked picture and nothing is hiding inside of it.

Have fun with this whoever plans to use this.

Edited at 2018/09/02 06:55:09
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:21:48 No.1489168
>>1489157
Thanks anon !

>>1489047
I wonder how many people return to us "peasants" now after this XD
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:23:59 No.1489170
>>1489167
what an absolute legend

do tell us if you get b&
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:25:34 No.1489171
>>1489159
haven't noticed this before: you can see the beak through the dick on the bottom right
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:30:34 No.1489173
>>1489170
oh wait I'm stupid it was suicide

well, farewell anon

which just goes to show as soon as the free pool on e6 gets to this point, someone should burn an account on dumping all of the pages, so that this bread can remain alive
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 06:35:24 No.1489175
File: Examplecu_u18chan.jpg - (878.95kb, 1947x2500, Examplecu.jpg)
>>1489157
>>1489158
>>1489159
>>1489160
>>1489161
Godspeed, anon. You gave valuable resources. I'll leave you with an example of my method. This is the most recent page screen shotted through a fullscreen projection of OBS. Covered obvious watermark, ran a smart blur, and then did the upscaler. You can see it loses minor detail like all the sparkle shape effects, but overall it's very good. Tell me what you think.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 11:16:59 No.1489243
>>1489167
Instead of taking a screenshot (unless this imprints even more watermarks into the image), just save the image, and instead of using the regular save function in Photoshop, use Save for Web & Devices; underneath Convert to sRGB, there should be Metadata. Set it to none, and they cannot track your EXIF there.

Additionally, for those who are too lazy to manually find watermarks (which you should not be trusting yourself to do. All it takes is one to slip by you and you're banned), try this method
>>1274872
I found it works well for simpler shaded images like this artist's.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 11:22:00 No.1489252
This week, an OP sacrificed himself. I hope we can ensure that won't be next week's case. :(
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 14:08:55 No.1489333
People could post the new page each week and try to evade the DRM with the methods posted, but now that's 5$ a month... don't know if it's worth risking an account multiple times.

Maybe it's better to just wait one or 2 months and then burn an account, or even better try to remove all the watermarked stuff and test if it works, if it doesn't work and you get banned you'll still have a bunch of images saved up and then you can post them if ya want, and if it works and you get away with it, great!

But definitely don't try to test now if you can evade DRM each week imo, because if you don't you'll have wasted 5$ on a single pic.

Had some empathy for the artist before because even tho the DRM was starting to become disgusting it was still only 1$, but now there's really no excuse.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 15:32:24 No.1489352
I've pledged $5 for 18 months so the rise in price isn't the issue, hell i didn't even mind PrimeLeap if it mean't she actually started posting pages bigger than a postage stamp.
Its the fact shes done this when it gets to the sex which pisses me off.. I didn't want 2 years of bullshit story, i just wanted dick in bird.

If no one else steps up; i'll release on a monthly basis.
Sefs banned me 4 times already for leaving; you just sign up with a new email
Sod these convoluted methods of removing watermarks and shit.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 15:34:32 No.1489353
She's insisting that she will refund anyone who doesn't want to up their pledge for September, but the timing of the announcement is still incredibly scummy. No heads up at all and most people won't go out of their way to refund $1
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 16:09:26 No.1489363
>>1489352
I was also giving her $5 a month before I got into an argument with her and she blocked me. As far as I'm concerned, the quality of art is worth it. But the timing of all this, all the bullshit she did leading up to it. It's all incredibly scummy. But in the way she talked to me in the conversations, that carefully worded PR speak, I could tell the type of person she was right away. Hence why I called all of this. Really, if she wanted to keep people on her side, she could have given the high res to the $5 people, left the old low res to the $1, and phased the $1 out after the comic was finished. But this all or nothing deal, combined with the move to Prime Leap to ensure the pages won't be leaked... it all just shows an incredible lack of respect for her supporters.
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 16:51:46 No.1489378
File: Screenshot_20180902-125034_Patreon_u18chan.jpg - (51.05kb, 720x413, Screenshot_20180902-125034_Patreon.jpg)
A true legend
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Anonymous 2018/09/02 22:19:14 No.1489505
Are you fucking kiddin me....
I just read her original post about the price change. She is pushing herself too hard.. health issues... financial problems.. thats like the basic scam story and WAY too many dig it up, come on people.. think for a second.Also,and that made me actually laugh, She is decreasing the number of pages per month from 5 to 4,while increasing the minimum too 5 dollar. yay logic XD
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 00:09:09 No.1489532
>>1489352
A true patriot
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 00:44:38 No.1489561
>Comic finally goes somewhere good after nearly 2 years
>Devon about to shoot his spaghetti
>Sef already makes enough money from over 1,000+ patreons
>Sef decides to increase the price to see pages to $5 right before the next scene.


It's really stupid, lmao. I was going to start paying for the pages, but now $5? Nah I think I'll pass.
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 07:11:59 No.1489653
>>1489618
Yeah, I don't think you're gonna derail the hate train on her this time. Sef showed her true colors, and everyone's rightfully pissed. I'm just pissed it took so long for everyone to realize it.
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 08:25:25 No.1489676
Wait wait WAIT.

Looking through yiff.party, Sef went FULL JEW because 'muh health' (and as someone with tendonitis, I can sympathise) but at the same time, wants to slow down delivery of content, increase the minimum price 400%

>Hey Ghostpony, The intent of the Patreon has never been to sell the comic page by page but for people to support the creation of the comic if they like it and want to see more of it.

So what is it? Are people paying to support the fucking project, or as Sef says over and over again that it's NOT, is that it's to hold the comic hostage for payment?

Because moving to a watermarking website (buh it's not about the watermarking it's about other reasons I can't even DISCUSS on patreon!) and then upping your prices 400% seems a lot like holding the fucking comic hostage.

And then there's this fucking line:

>It's also that I work over 50 hours a week for less than minimum wage right now

Fuck OFF with this bullshit.

Yeah, if you were working 50 hours a fucking week, then fine. But you're fucking not. Not a fucking chance. One comic page is not FIFTY HOURS. That's fucking retarded.

None of the explanations or reasons add up in any way, shape or form. This shit smells fishier than dolphin pussy.

And the cherry on top:

>I didn't casually wait until after the billing period to make this change. I wanted to make the changes and post about it sooner, but I wasn't able to.

>I wanted to make the changes and post about it sooner, but I wasn't able to.

>but I wasn't able to

Um, you had to make the changes and then do an explanation at the start of the month with zero warning? How in the fuck is this even an explanation? Was someone standing behind you with a knife ordering you to make changes at the start of the billing cycle after everyone was charged and to make the post explaining it after you took their money?

Was the person with the knife forcing you to do it NOW instead of waiting for next month?

How anyone can swallow this load of horseshit is beyond me.

Edited at 2018/09/03 08:30:35
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 08:36:27 No.1489677
I love watching freeloaders complain about other people making money.
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 09:39:53 No.1489682
>>1489677
Me too, but that's not what people are complaining about. Plenty of her paying patrons and ex-patrons are complaining as well, for good reason. It's the way she's going about it that's pretty sleazy.
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 11:46:00 No.1489706
>>1489676
You picked some good ones but i think you missed a noteworthy one.

>Hey Kov, thanks for the comment and the suggestions! We did consider possibly switching to a charge-per-thing model, but we leaned away from doing it that way because we tend to do extra images and fun stuff from time to time and we don't want to end up charging everyone a lot of extra money just because we decided to upload something extra.

Soooo, you are so sick you can't even manage 5 pages but some extra shit on the side,thats totally doable? Or is it more that the charge-per-page system allows you deciede how often a month you get actually charged,meaning you probably wouldn't get as much money as with this shitty move?
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 20:48:14 No.1489860
>>1489352
Wait, you got banned for cancelling your sub? Was that before CUF?
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Anonymous 2018/09/03 21:47:19 No.1489894
Sooooo, i liked the idea, and was supporting for a while, but after...i think 20 pages or so, i left because i already sniffed the incredible fishyness (hah, me and talking about fishyness....as a shork ;D) from miles away, and dropped out

and thankfully, after long time waiting, the house of shit FINALLY collapses, like it did with others already.

but hey, i LIKE THIS DRAMA and im thankfull for it since this makes me smile and laugh and wait for more :3c
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 00:17:12 No.1489975
>>1489860

There is no way to cancel a patron's sub without temporarily banning them

Edited at 2018/09/04 00:20:42
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 04:44:46 No.1490061
Devon freaking out over everything is getting a little annoying.
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 05:07:58 No.1490081
File: no-harm-no-fowl-cloaca-poll-img_u18chan.png - (904.58kb, 1240x688, no-harm-no-fowl-cloaca-poll-img.png)
continuing in the proud tradition of posting everything from the patreon, Sef's doing a poll where we're voting on how the cloaca should look (D is a joke option)

"So as I get closer to the upcoming scenes, there's an important question I'd like your guys' opinion on. For a while now I've questioned just which cloaca version would be best liked; cloaca's are pretty crazy to begin with, and when they're filled and stretched they'll be an "O" eventually, but until that point... which do you guys prefer?

Cloaca A - Butthole Cloaca
Cloaca B - Triangular Cloaca
Cloaca C - Mouth Cloaca
Cloaca D* - Cloaca Dentata"
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 05:11:27 No.1490082
>>1490081
oh, and the results so far: 31% A, 61% B, 3% C, 4% D
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 06:51:24 No.1490101
>>1490082

In my point of view:
- Option A is similar to an anus; (Between us, for those who frequently see this type of comics, anal has become very common.)
- Option B is different from a convensional vagina;
- Option C is also different from a convensional vagina;
- Option D, only if Addy is an alien.

So I would also choose option B, it would be more like the character.
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 14:09:12 No.1490182
File: wi3A2Ga_u18chan.gif - (15.43mb, 896x381, wi3A2Ga.gif)
Thanks sef, I'll see myself out
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Anonymous 2018/09/04 18:49:03 No.1490262
>>1490182
15mb GIF? Holy crap, man. Let me introduce you to a little thing called webm...
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Anonymous 2018/09/05 11:54:47 No.1490504
That gif quality tho.
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Anonymous 2018/09/06 21:31:42 No.1490993
>>1490081
B feels more "correct" to me I think.
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 00:37:54 No.1491078
Before tonight's release, let's try to predict whether we see some wolf jizz

I'm gonna be optimistic and say this page or the next one
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 01:09:43 No.1491083
>>1491078

If we even GET the page at all
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 02:52:02 No.1491113
>>1491083
Indeed, in the past week we had the last guy banned, one committed account suicide because of the price rise to $5 so we got everything so far. And yeah, it's now $5.

However, that now means new pages are pretty much out of reach as our previous leakers have passed on.

We have to assume that we've pretty much hoping that someone wants to burn $5 a page rather than waiting for what was once a garantuee thanks to $1 price before.
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 02:54:30 No.1491114
>>1491113
Especially since the last OP didn't stick around to tell us how he was banned either...
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 06:17:39 No.1491179
Page is up, boys

Sef skipped the Patreon announcement for this one, sorta weird

Blurry shit coming in the next couple of days

Some absolute bullshit dialogue from Devon, cum delayed by at least 3 pages imo
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 06:43:00 No.1491185
>>1491179
Why do we settle for blurry shit iyho?
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 07:52:01 No.1491195
>>1491185
I'm too incompetent to use just photo editing software without getting instabanned, and if the method's working so far I'm not fucking with it
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 07:56:24 No.1491197
>>1491195
furthermore, I've been posting in this thread for some time (I put up a page here or there a few times since about page 30) and no way in hell I'm gonna be prevented from contributing by some shitty antipiracy software
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Anonymous 2018/09/07 08:10:39 No.1491202
I joined her patreon when the drm drama started, thinking sure, 1doller per month is nothing, and considering 1 page per week its probably a little under what its worth per person. But after this 5 dollar shit and her blatant novel full of bullshit reasoning I find impossible to throw money her way . 50hours per week? I'm not an artist but that is fucking 10 hours per weekday, shed have to be heavily disabled for this kind of timetable for one page. 5 dollars a month is not going to be noticeable either, but that kind of bullshit just warrants wanting to freeload even more - atleast be fucking honest about your intentions. Thanks to the leakers for your effort and work, lord knows i didnt have the balls to leak that drmed shit.
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 05:06:28 No.1491608
Not sure what's going on here with the stopping of new pages.

Edited at 2018/09/08 05:12:58
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 05:19:19 No.1491624
>>1491608
Last page got OP banned and bailed before telling anyone how he got banned so we're all in the dark. No one wants to upload because now its $5 a page, and since that is now a significant sum, getting banned and pissing that money away sucks.

I think there's one guy who takes phone photos of the pages very blurry. I don't know if even that method is foolproof so he might have bailed too.
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 08:04:12 No.1491704
File: f676653405d090c2d3f50f8166cc0fb0_u18chan.png - (13.77kb, 350x400, f676653405d090c2d3f50f8166cc0fb0.png)
I feel like we have been here befo---

Ah, right.

Remember chicks: use protection. Your partner will appreciate you didn't leave your beak guard back in the nest |3
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 16:25:24 No.1491873
>>1491608
Last guy to leak didn't answer the question of whether or not he posted the image here 5 minutes after downloading it. Judging by his silence, I'd wager he did and is just too embarrassed to say it happened.

But the real issue is that it's $5 now. It was easy for people get up and start posting when it was just $1 since just about anybody can afford $1. I'm sure blurry guy was a $1 person and can't afford the extra $4 a month. Also, for many people, it's not just an extra $4 a month to make it $5, but instead of another $4 on top of what they already support. Many people (especially the retarded white knights) are really inept to figure that out. Not my fault I want to limit myself to $15 a month so I'm not spending too much in one spot.

But yeah, we have $5 to support and a method to leak that some people are wary about because the last OP didn't say yes or no to the question, so people don't want to take the risk of getting banned leaking, especially since sex is right around the corner.

Though if nobody posts, some anon here said he'll just post the pages for every month since he said it's easy to avoid the ban by making a new account. Hope that he knows that they could just log his IP and cross reference it to the IDs.
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 17:00:48 No.1491879
>>1491873
That Anon will be a bloody fool if you ask me, everyone so far has been treating Primeleap like such garbage DRM that will never work, but clearly its been killing us off left and right while we still dismiss it.

Its about damn time we give it some credit, and actually not be idiots when it comes to leaking shit in obvious download time patterns.
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 18:11:27 No.1491894
>>1491873
>>1491624
All's good over here, haven't been banned. I'll put the page up sometime today, as it's a little hard to find a place where I can take a picture of furry porn on my screen with good lighting conditions

Sincerely, blurry guy
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 18:27:46 No.1491898
File: nhnf-134-nerfed_u18chan.jpg - (682.56kb, 3024x4032, nhnf-134-nerfed.jpg)
FAQs

Does Devon have pupils in the bottom center panel? Yes, but they're quite small and they got washed out in the photo-fuckery process.

Does Sef know how to color images? Yes, severe color fuckery went on here to make sure that hue-based DRM was useless.

Why do they keep interrupting the momentum with these stupid jokes? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 18:30:04 No.1491899
>>1491898
oh, since I guess I left the joke unreadable, Addy's dialogue in the bottom left panel: "What, you've never seen a seagull swallow a fish whole before?"
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 20:47:43 No.1492018
After Otter Space we got Eagle Space too.

Praise Sef
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Anonymous 2018/09/08 23:25:47 No.1492090
>>1491898
That's not how your species fuckcin eats fish. they tear it apart piece by piece.
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Anonymous 2018/09/09 00:16:31 No.1492101
File: nhnf-134-nerfed_slightRecover_u18chan_u18chan.jpg - (1.24mb, 2898x3822, nhnf-134-nerfed_slightRecover_u18chan.jpg)
>>1491898

Thanks for it... here is a slightly improved version... the other one looks like a photo at a print.
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Anonymous 2018/09/09 02:08:12 No.1492123
>>1491898
Would it be alright if you could take another photo of it as righted as you can, my OCD is killing me.
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Anonymous 2018/09/09 07:46:18 No.1492296
>>1492123
risky, my dude

>>1492101
good stuff, thanks

anyway, as a general comment, I'm in favor of not burning any accounts until we get some wolf cum, even if it takes more than a month

we'll still be way ahead of the free releases on e6 of course
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Anonymous 2018/09/09 09:07:17 No.1492304
That jpeg though, lmao.

Still, it beats nothing. They can't do anything about it and even though it's shit quality, we're still getting it for free.

Don't know about anybody else, but I don't need to see the intricate details on addy's wings or the individual furs on devon's balls or the saliva. Just the general picture is all I need.
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 04:52:46 No.1492624
File: wut_3_u18chan.png - (25.13kb, 571x517, wut.png)
what in the world happened, was this after she went to that new site ?
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 06:02:39 No.1492647
>>1492624
Wish that was the case, but what acually happened is Patreon changed payment processor company to one out of the US and all the US based payments are getting shafted due to 'suspicious activity' errors.

Its a universal trend, seen it happen to a few artists this month now.
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 06:09:32 No.1492655
>>1492624
Hahahaha! Oh my god. Looks like treating paying customers like shit sure did Sef a favor. Anyone got charts for the other cunts who pulled this Primeleap bullshit like Kayla-na?
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 06:14:25 No.1492662
>>1492647
The Patreon snafu happened in August and it’s mostly cleared up now. This looks like a specific drop due to her switching to a worse platform, upping her prices, and more or less throwing previously loyal supporters under the bus for money.
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 06:53:00 No.1492675
>>1492662
Looking at other patreons it looks like they have already recovered from the first of the month slump. Not so with frisky ferals it seems though. As much as I might like to see them succeed as I like the content that they produce, it's also heartening to see their number of supporters drops after the whole $5 and prime leap fiasco.

Edited at 2018/09/10 06:53:28
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 10:02:57 No.1492725
>>1492624
Hmmm,correct me if I'm wrong but these number make no sense to me

As the graph doesn't give an accurate number, it looks to be around 1430 $. With still 1118 patrons for this to work
she would have only 78 in the 5 $ tier (makin 390$) and the rest 1040 being 1$ tier and getting nothing. I mean ignoring custom pledges, that there are rly around 1000 paying to get nothing essentially seems... off to me.But this was only simple math and like I said,correct me if I'm wrong.
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 14:53:15 No.1492796
File: afe85a7ee4f_u18chan.png - (30.01kb, 1078x495, afe85a7ee4f.png)
>>1492655
Haha in her case there seems to be quite a 'positive' trend. Positive if you're speaking inversely proportional to her attitude, that is!

Google 'graphtreon' and look up anyone you want!
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Anonymous 2018/09/10 15:10:46 No.1492800
Hate to be that guy but this just shows the number of the patrons.for kay la its maybe a loss in money but for sef the graph only shows her income untill july after its hidden.so since 1118 remain means in worst case she is making up to 5590$. yeah so much for being greedy not paying off
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 00:29:45 No.1493094
>>1492796
For someone who’s only goat is making money at any cost Kaylana sure is bad at what she does. Guess all those years treating fans and customers alike as worthless money sponges is catching up to her. Or her totally inability to deliver on anything she promises. Maybe both! Sef may be greedy but at least she finishes shit (eventually) and tries to pretend she doesn’t hate her entire support base.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 01:04:43 No.1493107
>>1491898
it's all ogre now boys

got a very nice email

should've taken blurrier images, I guess
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 01:15:59 No.1493115
No way. No fucking way PrimeLeap caught anyone off of that great grandma's prohibition era attic shitpic
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 02:13:08 No.1493127
>>1493107
Great, just fucking great, Primeleap shafts another one of us. I think it's about time we show some respect to this thing, we're not dealing with something that depends on blurry images, there's gotta be something else in the file itself, not the visuals.

The images on site have a . Primeleap extension, big clue to what's going on, just need to figure it out now.

But with that guy gone, what happens now? All methods we think worked have been cracked, and now we don't know what to do next. Do we go with just text base adventure dialogue going forward with no images? Seems that way, and that means the Jew Sef wins.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 03:08:01 No.1493146
>>1493127
Just image dump once a month and make a new account
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 03:10:16 No.1493147
>>1493115
>>1493127
so, either I got careless with the 134 image and didn't make it blurry enough (which is quite likely), or they got the ID immediately from 133, and didn't say anything (which is less likely).

either way, it's back to text-only and burning after pages that are actually worth it, I suppose.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 04:15:56 No.1493162
Here's the link if anyone wants to buy the other page. https://www.patreon.com/FriskyFerals/posts
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 04:27:16 No.1493164
>>1493147
Might as well post the last 2 pages you leaked in full rez then mate.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 04:36:04 No.1493167
>>1493107

Dude rip, but I still don't think the DRM could have managed to catch you based on any image detail. I want to say what bit you want the same thing that bit the last op and that's just matching with times.

Since you're more frequent here, you got to let us know pretty much every step you did. I did mention before that there's a 99.99% chance they have a download log with the times downloaded, but I probably should've mentioned they might also have a viewing log as well to see who views the image at what time (Why else do the images say "Loading. This shouldn't take long."? Other than putting shit into it, I'm sure it's also to make viewing access logs.

Just take a look here on what you said

>>1491894

and compare the time of that with this one

>>1491898

It's pretty much a 20 minute difference. The question here is did you access or download the image at any time after that first post? If yes, then you got smited by your post times. If no, then there must be some other thing inside the image (though it's pretty much impossible to pick anything up from that image, especially since it's a picture taken with a phone.)

They could've moved back to stuff like this

>>1486187
>>1489160

If you don't noticed, text changed position. What this basically can do is "This poster was the only person who viewed/downloaded this image when the sound effects were in this position. ". It's a very clever and effective strategy to catch leakers. The longer a leaker waits to view/download the image to leak it, the easier it is for people to catch them. That's why I said the best time to get the image is the moment it's posted, since the download/viewing pool is in the hundreds for the first hour. But that there just makes things more complicated. The posting times make the most sense.

Edited at 2018/09/11 04:38:19
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 04:59:43 No.1493174
The lengths "artists" will go to in order to try and prevent piracy is astounding. You'd swear they were drawing classified government documents, almost.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 05:07:14 No.1493180
File: nhnf-133_u18chan.png - (308.99kb, 387x499, nhnf-133.png)
>>1493164
very fair, 133's in low res bc I screenshotted straight off primeleap instead of downloading and screenshotting; 134 is in glorious high res

process: screenshot off primeleap at relatively low res, bit of stuff with GIMP (gaussian blur), phone shot, bit more stuff with GIMP (gaussian blur, color shift), shear with GIMP

if I had to go back and fix it, it would probably be multiple rounds of phone shots

regarding timestamps, I always downloaded in the first few hours once I saw a few people had already downloaded, then held off until the weekend; all of my posts on here about timing were lies because sef or her lieutenants are obviously reading this page

One of the final things we could try, besides burning, is tracing straight off the images, which would ruin any pixel-perfect stuff, and especially if we were to fudge the position of all text I don't see how it would still work out.

traditional IP-based stuff would probably still work after that process: maybe Primeleap is looking for u18c cookies or something else

tbh I think monthly burns with VPNs are the "drug of last resort", to use the pharmacology term, but I'd rather us not get to that point

I will of course keep lurking, and if nobody else steps up with monthly burns I live near a 7/11.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 05:07:16 No.1493181
File: NoHarmNoFowl-134_97D3F44ECC20_u18chan.png - (7.72mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 134_97D3F44ECC20.png)
>>1493180
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 05:12:14 No.1493182
Possible they're just keeping track of what sites are visited after PrimeLeap and if you go to u18chan in general they just ban you.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 05:38:50 No.1493191
>>1493180
huh.

That is very strange, if you had to ask me...

If they didn't link you on post times, and your if your pictures were completely naked and devoid of data and incriminating evidence (which is honestly believable seeing how blurry and blocky they were), then how are they catching you?

If it's not the watermarks or the posting time, then what? It might be getting referrers for the site (such as having u18 open, going to primeleap on the same tab, then back to u18 on the same tab), but that seems unlikely.

Stenography cannot survive in your images, nor can it survive in the obs method in here.

This can only lead me to one thing, which also might not be true, but what if the issue is not on primeleap, but instead here. What if a mod here is supplying the IPs of leakers for a bribe? I mean, it seems to be the only thing that makes sense since it's virtually impossible to gather any data from that mega blurry phone picture and your download time was at the very start with everybody else. How else can they know it's you? If this is the case, then we're all very much marked, but only leakers get hit.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 06:17:29 No.1493197
>>1493191
Considering how much connections the artists of Primeleap seem to have, wouldn't be surprised.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 08:34:49 No.1493231
If any of the banned people were from Europe (or any current patreons still are), can you request all your personal identifying information Primeleap has on you based on EU's GDPR? They'd have to tell you what data they have, how and when they processed it, and where they got it from. All data that can be linked to you is subjected to this (so the forms of individual DRM like individual codes on images also apply).

DRM in images is one thing, but if they somehow track you outside of Primeleap (to the point where they can tell what programs you use on your PC or what sites you visit) without informing you/asking for consent, that'd be quite a big breach of privacy I think.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 13:37:27 No.1493288
So, some things from Primeleap's Privacy Policy, taken straight from their main webpage.

Most of it is standard legal speak, but several points stuck out at me.
"Primeleap may disclose personal information provided to it by its members or customers to appropriate third parties in order to: ... (b) enforce or apply Primeleap's Terms of Use, or (c) to protect the rights, property, or safety of Primeleap, any of Primeleap's websites, our members, or others."

"We may store usage information such as the type of device you use to access Primeleap and its owned websites, your browser type, IP address, and device ID."

"Any personal information entered into a Primeleap profile aside from e-mail address, password, IDs and zip code should be considered viewable by the general public."


But there is a silver lining...
"Members may remove their information from the system at any time and Primeleap will not keep a member�s information for any longer than is necessary to provide its services."
This last line does not state that PrimeLeap will stop providing it's service in this instance.
In theory, you could request that PrimeLeap remove all stored data on yourself after downloading an image. If you are then banned for posting that image, then they have obviously kept some data, as that would be the only way to track you.
I'm not a legal expert, and I suspect that this may be a shaky loophole, but it at least offers some ideas...


Other things of note:
"Primeleap logs IP addresses of visiting users for statistical purposes and to maintain the integrity of our online features and forums."

"Primeleap uses cookies to store login information and to record settings to a user�s local computer. This stored data does not attempt to �mine� any other information from a user�s system or to collect information on sites outside the Primeleap's family of websites."


I was unable to locate any Privacy Policy for U18, and I don't know what the default is.

So, there may be some hope on the legal spectrum, but I'm no expert.


IMO the IP's being provided by a U18 staff member are farfetched, but still plausible.
I will continue to do some research and sleuthing, and I'll update if/when I learn more.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 15:01:30 No.1493303
I mean, it's the only thing that makes sense at this point.

Unless blur guy let something slip that he said here that they were able to make a connection to, or he's going to primeleap in his u18 tab or going to u18 from his primeleap tab, it makes no sense as to how he got caught, since he was posting completey naked (and rather full of jpeg and blur) images. No incriminating evidence could be found in these images.

The only explanation is either blur guy let something slip (such as he said something here or he went to and from primeleap/u18 in the same tab), or somebody here (whether it's a mod or an IP leak) is supplying them the IP of any leakers. Only way to actually verify is start posting to a different site such as using the manual post importer on yiff.party or just use a site that's not connected to the furry community.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 15:31:47 No.1493309
>>1493303

OR

The panels are moved.

Someone further up said the panels were different.

Or even the text in the panels.

That wouldn't even be all that hard to do. Just have all the text as a different layer, some panels as a different layer, whatever, and have them move around the page a few pixels. No matter how you clean up the image, no matter what you do to it, if you maintain the integrity of the panels or the text, you can be uniquely identified if those are what are being moved around.

This is one form of stenography that is basically impossible to defeat without access to the PSDs.

I bet if you got multiple different people to share their copies of pages, you'd find subtle differences in where the dialogue sits on the page, or where the panels line up (notice all that dead pink space? Measure the distances of pink and boom, stenographed).

It just means that Sef is showing her true colours by going maximum jew, and increasing her workload (FIFTY HOURS FOR A FUCKING COMIC PAGE GTFOutta here with the blatant bullshit) and all to treat her consumers like criminals while pretending like 'no it's really about the OTHER features primeleap offers! It's not about the MONEY even though I swapped to them and upped my prices 500% the following month!'

Sef is kicking around the bottom of the barrel with the likes of Kayla Fucking Na at this point.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 16:12:52 No.1493312
Well if your looking for ways to leak without getting caught, here's some options that are available.

1. leak the images on another site altogether, without saying anything and hope others find it without saying anything as well
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 16:13:49 No.1493313
2. Upload the images to a Mega file, and not on a site directly, and after each time you upload it on the mega file, change the link url completely so it's not the same one as before. Essentially upload, delete, then upload again. Also never advertise it, and when you upload it on the mega file, add all the previous pages to the file as well and not just the new page
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 16:14:44 No.1493314
3. Same as the above but with a google drive folder instead

4. If they can track if a person downloads said image, then screen capture it instead, using some screen capturing software, or your phone/computers built in screen capture. If you can view the image, open the image in another url and screen capture it in the best quality you can.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 16:18:54 No.1493318
>>1493312
Fucking sweet for the two people who find it, but if you can't say anything about its existence, the entire leak is worthless to the majority.

The other way of finding the comic without telling anyone? Pay up.

Your idea is retarded anon.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 16:26:17 No.1493320
>>1493309
Only one page actually had that, which was 132. Comparing the two, you can see the text changed. Comparing my images to the other ones posted here, there's no obvious changes (A 1 pixel change is enough to see a difference, and I don't see panels moving at all).

Besides, if it's just 1 pixel, it won't survive in blur guys images, especially since he took them at a 10 degree angle. The view/download pool is also way too large in the first hour to make absolutely 100% unique images because a few are at least bound the be the same, if not quite a bit. From what I've noticed yesterday when I was taking a look at 132, it doesn't change positions on each load, but it changes at certain times of the day, which is why I said the longer you wait, the more chance you have of getting caught.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 17:20:07 No.1493330
5. Do all of the above at different times, on different websites, without saying a word that you do it, and if you want people to have an easier time finding it, upload it a website were you would have to search for the image to find it.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 17:21:00 No.1493331
6. Upload the leaked image to yiff party, following the steps so you can't get tracked, and do not say, or mention that you do it to anyone. Just do it, and think nothing of it, almost as if it never happened

Edited at 2018/09/11 17:21:21
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 18:09:12 No.1493340
With the moving text, I want to say they're using adobe fireworks to make the text on a separate layer and that's how they're able to move the text around before it loads. If this is true, I want to believe they only change the image at certain times of the day as seen with 132. It's too resource intensive to do it each time for each person. And then when it's given to us, it's converted into a flat png so it can't be edited. But it's really not much of an issue.

I do believe that they're being supplied with an IP from here. How else can they catch blur guy? No amount of stenography info can be obtained from the most recent image he posted, so how was he caught? Beats me. I took a look at his 133 page and I couldn't find any IDs and it's text are in the same spot as the other person who posted here and mine. So again, if nothing incriminating was on there, how did they know it was him?
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 18:14:18 No.1493341
>>1491179

^
l
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I'm pretty sure that your foolishness got you banned.



>>1493191

That's what I call paranoia.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 19:18:40 No.1493359
The discussion here is more entertaining than the comic at this point. I'd sooner pay to read this than contribute to some DRM tracking shit for a comic that goes slower than a snail on a non-stick surface.
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 19:26:40 No.1493360
>>1493341
>I'm pretty sure that your foolishness got you banned.
clarify?
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Anonymous 2018/09/11 19:39:43 No.1493363
>>1493360
I think I can see what he means. Since he stated that the page was up the moment it was posted and that there wasn't an announcement that it was up, they probably saw him in the access log and compared it to the post time. It would be easy since they just need to search for when it was posted on the site instead of when it was posted on patreon.
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Anony 2018/09/11 22:12:37 No.1493420
Working in web development, there are methods to track where a user is coming from and where he is going.

Someone on PrimeLeap, please use Chrome coupled with:
- https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/editthiscookie/fngmhnnpilhplaeedifhccceomclgfbg?hl=en
- F12 -> Application -> Local Storage + Session Storage + Cookies
and let us know what suspects you have. SCRAPE/SCRAMBLE all ID/VALUES before posting.
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AnonyTor 2018/09/12 00:15:52 No.1493459
File: Capture_31_u18chan.png - (5.69kb, 224x163, Capture.PNG)
Long time Lurker here
In the case that PrimeLeap tracks your the sites you visit while in session (which they most certainly do, because no way in hell have they managed to decipher anything from that blurry and doctored image), then you could choose to upload the files only when using TorClient/Browser (and probably avoid visiting U18 altogether, unless with Tor, if you are pledging). This will not only encrypt your outgoing traffic, but will also relay you through several nodes, usually ending up with the site believing you are somewhere in e.g. Germany (Picture relevant). Big thing to note is that, as long as you have completely ended your other session (the one on primeleap by closing your browser), there is literally no way for them to track your usage beyond that without actually infecting your computer with malware.

Just note that you should not ever log into primeleap using TorClient, because that would immediately make your account highly suspicious.

In the case of other DRM features, like the ID numbers, and then potentially the sparkles around the border, the placement of letters and sound effects etc. It would be great if those that have already been banned could re-upload copies of older pages to compare. It should be pretty obvious if they are different. I hope you kept them
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 00:49:02 No.1493471
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 02:53:50 No.1493501
>>1493459
Mate, TOR is so old and slow that I doubt anybody even uses it anymore unless they're desperate for something on the deepweb. VPNs provide the same functionality without the sketchy ass websites and are much more common for normal people.

Besides, if you're so concerned about cookie data, just use a different tab to access primeleap and use another tab for u18 or any other site. Don't do it in the same tab because they could just use HTTP_Referrer and see where you came from. There isn't (or rather shouldn't) be any way for a site to read cookie data for other websites unless it's malicious adware. If there happened to be one, I'd imagine many sites would use it to get password data for other websites saved in your cookies.

Even better, just use two different browsers if you're so concerned about who's seeing what. Use chrome for primeleap and opera for u18. Again, unless they install something malicious (which I doubt they would take the risk to do), there shouldn't be any way for a website to see what you have open in a different browser.

Or, if you're paranoid enough, you can just use another computer for each site.

Though, I would use a VPN just to post here (don't try your luck with using the VPN for primeleap. Guess what will happen if they saw your account log in from 100 different IPs) just to make sure there isn't a leak to them. I dunno, maybe blur guy got caught by the referrer, maybe he got banned because an IP leak, or maybe he got banned for this simple oversight

>>1491179

In case the people here don't know, primeleap won't send out emails when something new is posted. You have to be notified through patreon when they make the announcement. Blur's post was made a whole 30 minutes before the announcement was posted on patreon (u18 is 1 hour behind EST) and was probably made directly after him accessing/downloading it. It's easy to put two and two together with that info (Check who saw the image before the announcement and directly after the image was posted. I'd wager almost nobody else would know it's there).

In any case, leaking is still possible, but you need to step carefully. Don't use the same tab for both sites, don't say anything after you downloaded it, and obviously don't post it directly after downloading it.

Edited at 2018/09/12 02:59:40
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 02:58:56 No.1493504
I check in on this thread after like a year and there's finally actual sex occurring but all anyone wants to talk about is DRM.

I love this thread.
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 04:02:24 No.1493530
>>1493501
actually, I made that post, then waited about ten hours to download it because I saw that the download count was low

maybe they just had IP logs
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 04:26:14 No.1493533
>>1493530
I 100% bet you there's an access log to see who views an image alongside one that sees who downloaded an image. I say this because why else would it take at least 5 seconds for the image to load? They're obviously doing some background processes (such as adding the IDs and whatever else) which will more than likely contain an access log to prevent people from viewing it and taking a screen shot and posting.
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 05:40:02 No.1493593
You guys are all thinking WAAAAAAAAYYYYY too hard on this.

I can see what happened pretty much:

1. Blurry guy says he got the picture before Sef made the post on Patreon to say it was there.

2. Only people in the single digits viewed it before then.

3. This is when he Fucked Up. Because simply viewing the image gives you your unique watermark tied to you.

4. Sef blanket bans the few people who viewed it because they narrowed the numbers down enough.

You simply blurted your mouth on important information, and that's when you fucked up.

Edited at 2018/09/12 05:46:54
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 11:47:02 No.1493650
Step 1. Get the page
Step 2. Sit on it for a week
Step 3. Post

Ofc do the watermark majiks in that week
We might be a week behind paying customers on the upload rotation but there would be consistent uploads, and we'd still be like 15 weeks ahead of e6. And if people stop getting b& for it gg. Work smart, not hard fur-niggas
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 15:02:33 No.1493680
>>1493501

Both Tor or a VPN would work just fine, provided the watermark is removed properly, but I guess if you want to save yourself like, 5 seconds of load time, a VPN would be better.

I agree with the fact that you should definitely wait a few days before posting, but I honestly don't think that Sef would actually blanket ban eager downloaders, that'd be too much collateral. I'd also say that actually downloading the file might be enough of a red flag, so that should probably be avoided also, use screencaps instead if you can.

Edited at 2018/09/12 15:08:29
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 15:04:32 No.1493681
Not expecting to see any leaks tomorrow though, we'd probably lose another with that

Edited at 2018/09/12 15:09:48
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 16:06:07 No.1493692
imo we should just wait until it's finished and then leak the full comic
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Anonymous 2018/09/12 18:12:10 No.1493715
>>1493692
So fucking two years from now? This is insane. No way I'ma wait for this shit to end.
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Anonymous 2018/09/13 03:58:24 No.1493856
I'm jacking off to this on principle now. What that principle is I don't know. I just feel like there is one and I need to jackoff because of it.

Hope he goes balls deep on the bird.
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Anonymous 2018/09/13 16:08:41 No.1493976
Looking back at this topic, it seems like Sef keeps going out of her way to be nice, even when you guys get caught. If we can't reliably leak the comic without a ban each week, maybe we can ask her to start posting WIP / Sketches of it as she goes?
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Anonymous 2018/09/13 22:44:55 No.1494027
>>1493692
The free version on Sef's FA/IB is what, 15 weeks behind? If you're going to wait a couple years for the comic to finish, you might as well just follow that for an extra 4 months.


>>1493976
Where did you possibly get that impression from? She's going out of her way to implement as many obstacles to leaking as possible at the cost of paying customers. One person supposedly got banned without even leaking anything.

If your standard of 'nice' is not being kayla-na, then I don't know what to tell you. From my perspective, she's just acting on the basic level of normal/professional. Why would she ever do anything you ask of her after the amount of trouble she went through to stop people from getting her work for free? Especially now that it's proven to work and you have no more cards left to play.

"I'm sorry Sef that we've been spreading your paid content for free. Now that we can't do that any more, can you please give us some yourself?"

I bet any WIP/sketches would either go to the sub-$5 patreons (to give something to the plebs without giving them the actual comic) or to the over-$5 patreons (get a sneak-peek into next week's page/working process).
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 05:50:47 No.1494081
>>1493976
The word you're looking for isn't "nice", it's "professional". Her interactions with customers (and leakers) has been through carefully crafted PR speak. That method works just fine for a company, but for a single artist trying to establish a community, it comes across as dismissive at best, condescending at worst. Seems to work on some people though.
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 06:52:28 No.1494090
>>1493681
Yea ain't nobody crazy enough to burn one account a week

Monthly, though, now you're talking

...My local grocery store is out of gift cards, and PrimeLeap and Patreon both track which card gets used, so we'll see if someone steps up for that
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 09:02:07 No.1494121
File: clean1_u18chan.png - (7.06mb, 2674x3426, clean1.png)
Random bored anon. Decided to see if I could work around this system they have. See anything I've missed? *Other than the obvious one*
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 09:25:26 No.1494127
https://graphtreon.com/creator/FriskyFerals

take a look at it, i mean its still alot, but thankfully constantly dropping at around 1-2 per day, we will see how far it goes down, i hope far enough
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 11:38:19 No.1494151
>>1494121
Went and scanned over the entire image, and aside from the obvious one, didn't see anything.
For what reason did you leave the one at the top though?
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 13:19:16 No.1494179
>>1494151
Just testing a new method and didn't care about the obvious mark as those are easily fixed.
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Anonymous 2018/09/14 21:06:04 No.1494348
File: PrimeLeakNoHarmNoFowl-135_u18chan.png - (7.6mb, 2674x3426, (PrimeLeak)No Harm No Fowl - 135.png)
>>1494226
stfu, anon. It was released yesterday.
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 02:20:27 No.1494481
So what's the over/under on the bird actually getting a beakful of cum?

I want to have hope, but I just know the next few pages will be 'Addy I'm going to cum' except so much more meek and submissive, and then Addy pulling back and them dialoguing for another five weeks of pages before skipping any kind of proper payoff and then 35+ weeks of him trying to fit his cock in the bird and swapping positions and 'I don't want to hurt you, addy'.

I give it about a 15% chance of the bird getting a mouthful.
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 02:39:11 No.1494488
>>1494484

Well thanks for the upload,regardless wether you continue or not. It's good to see that there is a continued effort against primeleaps system.

Edited at 2018/09/15 02:39:54
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 03:02:51 No.1494493
>>1494348
Jumping back to the art for a second, Devon's knuckles look pretty weird in the middle panel there.
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 05:40:49 No.1494533
>>1494348
I won't be a retard like the rest of the mouth breathers here. I'll actually compliment you on this.

Comparing it to the filesize, it's the exact same size. I also scanned the entire image for barcodes. There are none, which is impressive and I would be interested to know how you did it.

I'm not sure if this is my method that I posted (The OBS Method). There doesn't seem to be any loss of detail, but the saliva on devon's dick and the puffs of air do look blended, which makes me think it could of been done through the upscaler that I mentioned.

Either way you did it, it looks clean, so I'll commend you on that part instead of being one of sef's white knights trolling the thread.

As for the thing that's been shooting down everybody else (Piecing together the download/view time with posting here), I hope you've managed to space things out large enough to keep yourself invisible.

I am thankful for everybody who's posted here, whether it was in low rez, blurry jpegs, or the full rez. I can say I'm looking forward to you posting more if you would be so kind and ignore the shit heads trolling the board (I've been in a dicksword that knows about this thread and know that they trash talk it. I wouldn't be surprised because a lot of people come up with ridiculous ideas (see the upload but tell nobody guy)).

If this is indeed my method, or taken some pointers from my method and you don't get banned by time or IDs, then we know that there's no system in the back. But if you are 100% careful with your tracks (like downloading with the primary group and covering the watermarks correctly), but still get banned, then that means there's something in the background that's potentially impossible to get by.
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 05:55:47 No.1494542
>>1494533
Hm, I do want to say that it's done through a method similar to mine or actually is the same one. The upscaler lets you choose the exact resolution you want it in and I just tried it with my images and I have a cleaned image at the same resolution, albeit a loss of some minor detail (such as the saliva and air puffs), though mine is a bit less detailed than yours, but that's probably because I use the smart blur like 5 times to be safe.

I also made the observation between mine and the one you posted by using edge detect. The amount of noise when set to laplace at 10.0 is exactly the same between the both of ours, which further makes me think your method is similar to mine or is the exact same. When compared to the original image, the original has a lot more detailed noise.

If you don't get banned, then I'll probably start chipping in too. Just be careful with your posting times.

Edited at 2018/09/15 06:00:54
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SergallySergal 2018/09/15 06:24:03 No.1494553
File: 38790930_u18chan.png - (7.1kb, 185x167, 38790930.png)
Bit of input, since I been watching this thread for a bit.

The effort put forth into defeating the DRM that PrimeLeaponMyDick stuffs in everything is admirable, and frankly I am glad there are people here that are willing to go out of their way to prove its ineffectiveness. If I have to suggest anything, I would probably attempt to constrain the editing to the watermarks themselves to minimize quality degradation, but I think you guys have it pretty well covered so far. Worst case scenario, proxies and gift cards work wonders and all you need to do is patiently wait until you see a post update.

That being said I would like to remind people in this thread, and really this applies to the rest of the site, that no matter who leaks, pirates, or what have you, SOMEONE has to put money forward to get in, SOMEONE has to invest their time and patience to get as much as they can, and frankly it'd be nice if people started reporting potato mashers such as >>1494512, >>1494506, and >>1494494, and to not reply to them in any format. You'd honestly think by now people would get the hint and, as 2004 would put it, stop feeding the fucking trolls.

Don't be dismayed about getting banned from an artist, cause it does, and you can't really influence it, instead keep leaking as a service, an act of defiance, a big fuck you to the artist with their head up their ass, not just because porn, but because it's funny to see artists screech.

As for PrimeLeapOffaCliff I look forward to seeing PL shit itself and die and take the artists that rely on it with them.

Edited at 2018/09/15 06:26:08
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 09:37:15 No.1494575
But please do update us OP if Sef is beaching your door, we wanna know how to avoid making the same mistakes as the guy before you, who disappeared without saying how he was caught.
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 12:16:14 No.1494595
Seems like a lot of people trying to stir up trouble in this thread every time someone uploads something. HMMMM, I wonder why... it's not like the PrimeLeap crew doesn't watch this thread intently HMMMMM...
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Anonymous 2018/09/15 12:59:05 No.1494603
>>1494595
Probably all of Blitzdrachin's mindless cronies in her server, known to be fanatical wackjobs. if she's on PL too, they're probs on Sef's dick as well
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Anonymous 2018/09/16 00:43:29 No.1494737
>>1494603
I like to think that all the "ungrateful" anons are just double agents trying to stir up shit and get us to stop the efforts of the awesome leaker dudes due to drama.

Edited at 2018/09/16 00:44:36
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Anonymous 2018/09/16 01:11:05 No.1494741
Thing is, Primeleap is probably watching people evade their watermarks so they can adjust and make it better.
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Anonymous 2018/09/16 01:42:03 No.1494747
>>1494741
There's only so much you can do to the image before it starts intruding onto legitimate supporters. 37 barcodes on an image is meant to prevent retards from posting the image since they're the ones who will post the image without cleaning it. Once you clean it, there isn't anything else you can really do. Can't hide stuff in it because you can just take a screenshot of a projection of it, can't use watermarks since people can blend them out easily. The only thing you can do is track them based on their time. If there was an anonymous poster who never said a word in this thread and updates on his own time, the chances of him getting caught using methods supplied here are really low until they decide to add something to the image that is intrusive to all people.
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Leaked image of the artist Anonymous 2018/09/16 05:58:05 No.1494799
File: Avenger_typing_u18chan.gif - (113.68kb, 500x333, Avenger_typing.gif)
Hard at work.
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 14:33:02 No.1495259
>>1494741

That's really cute... Thing is, multi-billion dollar media companies have been trying copy protection, steganography, watermarking, distribution control, and other tactics for years. I'm sure the PrimeLeap guys are smart, and never underestimate the creativity of a bunch of horny furries with coding skillz, that want to cozy up to artists and make some side-cash in the meanwhile.

But it's a losing battle. If Disney and Sony are losing it to fanboys and pirate cartels, what chance does a cheap furry-community startup have? They may win some battles, but it's a war of attrition; and they are virtually certain to lose the war. The universe has a finite-number of PrimeLeap devs, but a nearly infinite, and replenished-annually, supply of college aged "haxxors" with unlimited free time, equal coding skills, and raging erections to drive them on.

By the time Sef finishes this comic (in about 5 years), trust me, PrimeLeap won't be an issue.
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 16:55:48 No.1495306
>>1495259

This. Entirely this.

I mean it is quite possible to end piracy with a "win" for "content developers". You could make a new image format that requires a proprietary program with a constant link home that only allows one connection at a time, etc. But there is a reason that companies like Sony (much less some piss ant furry artist) won't do it; Return On Investment. That is a lot of capital that goes into it, a lot of capital to keep the system running, and arguably more capital spent than would be returned in "lost sales". Sony and other creators spin some dumb shit tales, but they are also smart enough to understand this power dynamic and that is exactly why they go for removing "ease of access" piracy. Hardcore pirates that are going to "stick it to the man" are going to do it for spite and are not fully worth their time or their investment.
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 16:57:44 No.1495307
Also, holy shit it might be time to make a new thread with just the images and archive this thread. The amount of time to load the entire thread is retarded.
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 18:07:07 No.1495330
>>1495306

Well, that or artists could just start charging what the market will bear, instead of what they want to try and make a living out of it. A lot of artists in a non-mainstream community like furry porn, have made a decent amount of side-cash peddling $15 folios to an avid community of fans. When you try to juice your earnings to a $60/year subscription at the same time as your output is decreasing, well... that's when you have to hide behind something like PrimeLeap to try and protect your revenue. This community, in particular, has been pirating porn since before "pirating porn" was even a thing!! Pick another hobby if you're in this for the money rather than the attention... Sorry, but it is what it is.

>>1495307

Fap mode is a thing that happens. Look into it...
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 18:26:57 No.1495341
>>1495330

Agreed with everything but your asinine comment about fap mode. That only works when you want to hide all posts, not actually comment on the thread, which takes a retarded amount of time to load. Thanks for playin' though.
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Anonymous 2018/09/17 21:24:46 No.1495375
>>1495259
Something I haven't been keeping up with, but you can add Nintendo to that list. Nintendo is trying to stop distribution of ROMs for their games, and what

>>1495306

said is pretty much all what they've done. They're able to prevent ease of access pirating by shutting down popular sites that host roms, but places like gbatemp or 3dsiso will always have people posting links to large mega or google drives that house all the roms. Your local internet surfer won't find these since typing in "gba roms" won't bring up these forums.

This is exactly what prime leap does too. It's meant to prevent ease of access pirating (in this case, leaking) by having access/download times and water marks to prevent the same local internet surfer from leaking it because they won't factor in getting caught based on those things. The only difference is that prime leap has no outside authority unless it's a popular site like e621 or FA, so they can't file a DMCA on places that host the images. They can only ask.

But yeah, pirating is pretty much nothing but trial and error. They put something out, beat pirates, but pirates come back with something new to continue. The odds are always stacked against the owner because there's only so much you can do before you start fucking over legitimate customers with all these "protections".
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Anonymous 2018/09/21 13:37:18 No.1496456
I wonder if that last guy is gonna post again, or did he actually get banned?
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Anonymous 2018/09/21 18:56:30 No.1496553
The new page was posted at 5 am today, so it probably won't get posted til this evening at the earliest.
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Anonymous 2018/09/21 19:40:38 No.1496570
Any sensible leaker won't post the moment it's posted. A sensible one will take the image with the largest crowd and then post it a while later to make the tracks harder to spot. You can't really expect people to leak the same day it's posted unless you want them to get caught.

This also depends on whether or not the new guy hasn't ran away after being obviously trolled by Sef white knights (and TBH, if he did, then he's an idiot for getting triggered by someone who's so obviously a troll). I haven't heard a word from him since he ran off, so he either is gone for good or he's being smart and not posting random chats on this board that can potentially link his browsing times for primeleap
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 09:56:23 No.1496772
File: NoHarmNoFowl-136_B01C4664E456_u18chan.png - (7.68mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 136_B01C4664E456.png)
.
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 10:15:33 No.1496778
>>1496772
Hmm, well I guess paying to see link works until this happens.

But seriously, what the hell? Are you saying even the channers here have to pay to see the pages through your links? You're no better than Sef mate.
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 13:01:51 No.1496855
Oh look the bird isn't going to get a beakful of wolfspunk.

Who could see this massive disappointment coming?

Oh wait, everyone? Right.
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 16:29:05 No.1496888
>>1496855
My disappointment is actually immeasurable
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 17:25:19 No.1496897
>>1496777
I'm curious as to what you thought was going to happen when you posted a link instead of an image. That of all the hundreds or thousands of people watching this thread, every single one of them would respect your wishes? It's just like piracy, mate. All it takes is one.
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 17:29:28 No.1496899
>>1496792
Mate, your method is nothing more than the same exact one that I posted. The last image you posted here last week, I cross referenced it with my image using the exact same method, and guess what? They looked exactly the same.

Yeah, nice try saying you've came up with a new method. You can see how the breaths of hot air devon makes is more blended, because any upscaler you use will blend/blur the image.

The noise too was a big giveaway. I compared the noise between yours, mine, and the official image through edge detect. Guess which two were similar? Yeah, mine and yours.

We here would rather have people get banned each week than give some self entitled child on an anonymous image board money to do the work for us. Hell, I would, in a heart beat, pay sef $20 per page, not month, than give you $1 per shoddy quality page.
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SergallySergal # MOD # 2018/09/22 17:56:01 No.1496902
File: 89029336_u18chan.jpg - (5.8kb, 252x260, 89029336.jpg)
>>1496777
>I already proved my point that I can't be banned.

First time here, buddy?
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Anonymous 2018/09/22 20:59:42 No.1496956
>>1496902
Ironic that he said that, and proceeds to have a big red "Banned" underneath as the biggest fuck you I've ever seen.
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Anonymous 2018/09/23 01:24:26 No.1497114
>>1496772
one sign that the wolf was blue-balling himself was the background - it should've gotten redder & redder, but instead it was fading away
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Anonymous 2018/09/23 03:42:16 No.1497141
File: steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net_u18chan.jpg - (18.28kb, 268x268, steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net.jpg)
>>1496772
>pausing the only action we've had in 9 years
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Anonymous 2018/09/23 15:32:49 No.1497429
maybe he wants to cum with her.
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Assquatch 2018/09/24 06:48:38 No.1497652
For fucks sake, this just proves how ridiculously stupid you are people, already bitching about 'stopping the action' when this is one of the oldest cliches in porn stuff ever. He was close and doesn't want to cum yet, this is opposite of what you're bitching about, he wants it to last longer.

I hope.
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Anonymous 2018/09/24 11:01:17 No.1497679
We're all so fucking done at this point, we don't want it to last longer ffs. It's gone on long enough.
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Anonymous 2018/09/24 11:24:48 No.1497691
>>1497652

After waiting two fucking years for this GLACIALLY SLOW trainwreck to finally go off the goddamn rails, I think it wouldn't be too much to ask for the bird to get cum in her beak AND get stuffed... IN THE SAME FUCKING COMIC!

But no, we're going to wait three fucking years for one singular boring money shot because 'slow burn romance blah blah blah'.

This is the fucking opposite of what I want.

Cum in her fucking beak for the love of god. Give uis something to fap to after two painfully slow years of utter fucking tedium. Do not make this garbage boring, stretched-out, mindless, TEDIUM in the extreme AND FUCKING PAINFULLY VANILLA on top of that.

Fuck that.

Who in the actual fuck is waiting TWO YEARS to see him just fuck the bird and *that's it*? Do something exciting for fucks sake.
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Anonymous 2018/09/24 13:29:01 No.1497740
>>1497691
Imagine they put this thing on hold and start making another one for a year once they're about to get some.

I'll go bonkers, but if that vote goes through on thier server, might be what's gonna happen in a few weeks. Even thier supporters are tired of this years long thing.
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Anonymous 2018/09/24 14:28:21 No.1497798
>>1497740

Ahahaha fucking really?
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Anonymous 2018/09/24 15:27:39 No.1497817
>>1497691
Pretty much how I feel at this point, I like the comic and all but enough is enough. Get on with it.
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SergallySergal 2018/09/25 01:32:45 No.1498124
>>1497691
Guess you shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch.

Haw. Haw.
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Anonymous 2018/09/25 07:01:10 No.1498198
>>1497429
>>1497652
>maybe he wants to cum with her.
doesn't square with dev's personality, we're probably going to get a massive bullshit excuse or something

or maybe I could be wrong. And I do hope that I'm wrong.
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Anonymous 2018/09/25 21:02:38 No.1498372
Or, given he's got a knot; perhaps while the oral feels grand, he's not able to cum without pressure around it. Trope some feral artists go with.

Got the feeling he wants to stuff this turkey.
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Anonymous 2018/09/27 23:47:49 No.1499039
this dude has the stamina of a male porn star
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Anonymous 2018/09/28 15:47:25 No.1499223
i miss the dragon incest comic where sex actually happened, at least the mom had an interesting personality, and the story was actually good without dragging its ass for years and getting shit all over like this train wreck. Used to like addy but she lost her personality after cardboard cutout devon stuffed his hand up her. Maybe his case of chronic boring/stupid is contagious
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Anonymous 2018/09/29 04:53:39 No.1499489
It will all be released eventually, I'm kinda past the point of giving too much of a damn honestly.

Let the artist be a jerk if they want, people will remember.
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Anonymous 2018/09/29 19:18:13 No.1499670
I really wish the people who make the doom and gloom comments would check the fucking patreon page before being idiots. The page itself is being delayed.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 00:33:42 No.1499765
>>1499670
That's assuming us freeloaders are patreons, clearly were not, and don't give money to Sef.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 01:42:02 No.1499774
The page will probably be released later today or tomorrow. Give people some time to get it, clean it, then post unless you want them to end up getting instantly banned.

On a better note, it seems like Sef finally realized part of the reason why people are pirating/leaking her work. She posted 10 pages in the last 2 weeks, so instead of being pretty much a 20+ weeks behind, it's now only 9 weeks behind and she might end up catching up more.

If that's the case, the only reason to pirate/leak would be for the same reason people do it for the OSE comic. Get pages 2-3 weeks earlier and have it in full rez, which I doubt people care for full rez at this point.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 02:09:18 No.1499789
>>1499774
It's not by choice that we don't have full Rez, it's essentially a death sentence with this comic. As we've seen in the past, even the most meticulous scrubbing, and the most blurry cameras (excluding thumbnail size) have all been caught.

But also, you're assuming there's even leakers left, I don't know if there is, just the rest of us waiting for a hero. :C
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 02:10:29 No.1499790
>>1499765
No, I was just assuming you had the mental capacity to check the patreon page if you're wondering why it hasn't been posted yet.

https://www.patreon.com/FriskyFerals/posts

As you can see, you don't have to be a patron to see when the latest post is. All I ask is a little foresight before acting like it's the end of the world.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 02:55:45 No.1499807
>>1499789
I believe the first guy got banned because he wasn't careful with his view/access/post times and got hit by that (it was also on a page that moved some text around at certain times of the day. If he didn't pick with the rest of the crowd, it makes it clear who leaked it). It's unknown, though, because he hasn't answered any of the questions here about said thing.

Blur guy also got banned because he posted too much info here that linked him to his viewing/download times (he stated that the page was up about 30-40 minutes before the announcement was made on patreon. Not hard for them to see who viewed the page and link it to the post time the guy made in here.).

As it stands, there doesn't seem, based on assumptions, to be anything on the pages that say who the leaker is. The only thing that seems to be hitting people are the simple things that people often forget.

But for now, just wait. Somebody is bound to do it, though it'll be hard for a new person to do it since it can easily be assumed that a new patron is the leaker if they start leaking the moment they sign up.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 05:10:27 No.1499846
>>1499807
Damn that's harsh. What about the last guy? The one who wanted people to click a link so he'd get paid? How did he get caught?
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 06:38:34 No.1499872
>>1499846
Don't know if he got banned for the first image he posted. He did say banned guy here, but I don't think he actually got banned for the image. If he did, who knows how it happened. It could've been the same thing with the timestamps or a new account leaking.

After he threw his first fit, he posted the next image under a link you needed to pay with bitcoin. Somebody paid and just leaked it and it turns out the guy didn't bother to clean the image. He then got banned from the board 3 times because he was taunting the mods and spamming MLP scat.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 06:46:01 No.1499873
File: NoHarmNoFowl_u18chan.png - (5.95mb, 2674x3426, NoHarmNoFowl.png)
Don't get your hopes up, I'm not leaking anything other than this.

If you're reading this Sef, which we all know you probably are, you're fighting a losing battle. Shit like this isn't going to be stopped, and you're probably not losing very much money to something like this. People who use this site most likely were never going to become a patreon of yours anyways.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 09:00:52 No.1499894
Finally! Bird Filling!

Edited at 2018/09/30 09:01:30
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 11:15:09 No.1499915
>>1499873

People waited (and paid for) two years for this tame, tepid, boringly vanilla fucking utter lack of payoff.

Fucking kek
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 11:19:02 No.1499917
>>1499873
>no cum in mouth
welp, that's the last disappointment in this utter trainwreck of them for me.

the fucking "hurr durr the guy can only cum ONCE in a porno, so let's cut the blowjob" trope is the most infuriatingly stupid thing
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 12:09:01 No.1499930
>>1499873
Looks good, no marks or anything strange.

Since the last 3 people got done in, please do let us know if this one does beat thier system, seems to be the best so far, could be the template we could follow for the future.
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Anonymous 2018/09/30 13:51:23 No.1499965
>>1499873

Thank you
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Anonymous 2018/10/01 01:42:51 No.1500240
There is absolutely zero chance that sex actually happens in the next 30 pages.
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Anonymous 2018/10/01 02:13:00 No.1500248
Will probably be a really long sex scene lol :P

Edited at 2018/10/01 02:16:25
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Anonymous 2018/10/01 06:38:57 No.1500319
>>1499930
No ban. Probably banned someone else as collateral, poor guy. My patronage ended this month, so this was the only thing I'm able to leak.

All I did was edge detect in GIMP to find the watermarks, and removed them in Clip Studio. Then blurred the entire thing for good measure. She probably banned someone based off of time access.
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Anonymous 2018/10/01 15:54:05 No.1500433
I mean... you could just have a oral cum scene and keep going.
This is art after all, and not every dude nuts and is done for good.

Hell I can stay hard after one nut and keep going for another a few minutes later.
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Ruler # MOD # 2018/10/01 18:45:18 No.1500475
Thank you for your reports of that guy! If you see him again, please let us know.
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Anonymous 2018/10/02 01:32:13 No.1500617
>>1500475

Thank you Mod! You're a god send, no one wants that guy around so we'll keep a lookout. Not even his posts deserve to remain, a wipe from exsitance is probably the best action you can take.
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Anonymous 2018/10/02 20:09:59 No.1500860
Er... Anyways...
What's with the trope in porn that a guy can only cum once before they're done? Pretty sure that's not universal. Addy could've gotten a beakful and still get cloaca sex.

Edited at 2018/10/02 20:16:14
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Anonymous 2018/10/03 02:16:57 No.1500967
>>1500964
There's a checkbox at the top left of each post. Click it and look for the dropbox at the bottom right of the page next to the page numbers, there's the option within there, and you can report stuff from there.
Just don't try to report multiple posts, as I remember getting banned for doing that at one point as I didn't know reporting multiple posts is considered a bannable offense.

Edited at 2018/10/03 02:19:14
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Anonymous 2018/10/03 02:30:15 No.1500970
>>1500967
Cheers mate, not the most visible of report functions, but we got there in the end. This is the same guy who wanted us to click a paid link, ultra shady. He said a bunch of other demeaning stuff too, but glad to see the mods wiped his very existence off the site so far.
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Anonymous 2018/10/03 03:29:02 No.1500986
"Hey Bro, you want to go out to the pub with us? All our friends are coming and we're going to have a fun time!"

"Nah, I've got to uh...Spam an anonymous imageboard with nasty images because I tried extorting them for money and they didn't like it and I got banned."

":) sure. You do you :)" *What a weirdo*
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Anonymous 2018/10/04 00:30:59 No.1501266
Time to stuff the turkey.
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Anonymous 2018/10/04 21:55:11 No.1501629
>>1501266
I estimate n pages of approach and m pages of close-ups & no stuffing, for n + m > 3
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Anonymous 2018/10/05 05:34:05 No.1501743
>>1501629
Too generous, 10 pages at least surely. Sadly.
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Anonymous 2018/10/05 08:30:31 No.1501784
Ay, is that dude who wrote the fanfic still around? Could he be able to continue it now? With the potential comic drought it'd be awesome :p Even if he ain't around someone pitchin' in for the writeflaming homosexualry would get a lot of thanks.
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Anonymous 2018/10/07 19:28:25 No.1502737
I'll be willing to write some drabbles on these two, as I've had some ideas for them anyway. But I'm not the same guy who did those few pages or so a number of months back
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Anonymous 2018/10/07 20:05:22 No.1502748
>>1502737

That'd be the shit yo.

Although I wonder that, as the comic goes on, if Sefeiren will incorporate certain kinks. I'd be surprised if Dev doesn't bulge Addy out [not that I'm complaining], if not. Well..We got fanfic.
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Anonymous 2018/10/08 23:42:42 No.1503401
Interestingly enough, page 130 has been edited on the public uploads to have the cock facing the right way instead of backwards.

Thank goodness too, because backwards dog dongs in furry porn is quite a pet peeve of mine (And some others).

Edited at 2018/10/08 23:49:50
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Anonymous 2018/10/09 02:10:58 No.1503438
Well this was fucking horrible while it lasted. The sex is going to be very short in comparison to the rest of the comic so I really don't give a fuck anymore as to whether or not it gets uploaded on here. Too many people on here always bitching about the same shit all the time and look at what it changed in the end: literally nothing.

A lot of you won't be missed. As for the few good ones who actually leaked without being complete cunts, thanks for your contribution. This thread was already dying and becoming cancerous as shit over this past year and the horse scat was the last straw. This comic just isn't worth all that bullshit. Cya.
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Anonymous 2018/10/09 03:47:54 No.1503474
if someone who hasn't been banned yet would like to keep it going with text updates that'd be great
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Anonymous 2018/10/09 04:20:47 No.1503484
I vote we write fan-fiction that [like all others] slowly more and more fetishistic over time!
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Anonymous 2018/10/09 13:37:30 No.1503591
For the pass few weeks, I've been comparing my images to the ones posted here and I can say without a doubt that there's something else added to these images and I'm not sure how much the affect leaking.

Basically, if you take a look at any new non edited image in this thread (135 and 136 are the best examples) and compare it to your own copy, you're going to notice a minor difference that otherwise you look pass. Basically what happens is that there are these very transparent shapes that move around for each person.

Now, what I don't know is how unique they are. I do not know if each person has unique shapes that spell out anything, or if they're the same all across the board. If they're the same, I do not know if the positions are unique per person, or the shapes move at certain periods of the day.

These shapes do however remind me of the moving text watermark sef did back about 10-15 pages ago. The one where some sound effects were moving slightly based on the time of day. I do know for a fact that those moved based on time period, but what I don't know if it was purely unique for each user. My guess is no. You can't really have what, about 800 unique positions for text that moved ever so slightly? Well, maybe you can, but how much does it affect the image?

Anyways, if it's anything like the last one, then this seems to only prevent late downloaders or new pledgers. I don't know exactly for sure, but if you go ahead and grab the image the moment the patreon announcement goes out, then theoretically, the pool of unique pages will be too large for you to be spotted.

Now before you get anywhere, I highly doubt there's an easy way to get rid of these transparent shapes. No amount of filters I used in photoshop seemed to blend it in, upscaling did nothing, etc. I didn't try a phone picture, but I'm sure it'll just stay the same regardless. The only thing that I see would be helpful is to compare two images that were taken in the same half hour to an hour time frame to see just how unique the shape positions are, but that would require a burner and I doubt somebody would want to do that.

In anycase, I'm not sure how much leaking is needed anymore. Sef has done another burst update to the point where the public is only 5 weeks behind rather than 8 months. I think she realized how poorly she was treating the fans who couldn't afford to support and is finally catching up so that public pages are only a week or 3 behind, like most artists do.

And for the kind anon who asked for a text update, penetration is about to happen.
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Anonymous 2018/10/10 11:13:00 No.1503949
Well if no one has found out how to bypass the ban after so many tries, it's only logical people stop to prevent their final accounts from being banned.

Honestly, text-based updates will suffice, its not like anything significant is going to occur in the next year. (Look how many years it took for us to get to this point ffs)
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Anonymous 2018/10/10 19:34:10 No.1504106
The best thing we can do is just to wait and check back in here later after someone will probably have done a huge file dump all at once. The best way would be to just create a Dropbox or Mega upload folder because these sites wouldn't ban you for "breaking" copyright law, unlike u18chan who are being complete pussies about this even though I'd expect a company like theirs to have lawyers who could just brush off a small irrelevant "company" that is primeleap.
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Anonymous 2018/10/10 20:42:13 No.1504127
>>1504106
Nah, u18chan states it doesn't have to follow DMCA take downs, but I think if an artist asks nicely, they can delete the thread.

Not like it'll do anything, though. Admins and posters alike both know that a new thread will be made with the same images, so there's really no point.

Also, I think very soon leaking won't even need to be a thing. Sef has been catching up quite a lot with the public release. Who knows, maybe in another week or 2, it'll just be a couple of weeks behind the patreon release.

That, or maybe she's going to post right up until the sex and slow down to 1 page every month for public releases so people will have to pay.
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Anonymous 2018/10/11 00:54:41 No.1504199
You might have noticed, but Sef has just caught up a bunch with the current free pages. Pages 129-133 were all posted to e621 2 days ago.

I'm not here to say anything about why Sef suddenly caught up down to only 3 weeks of lag between patreon and public, but it sure is convenient. I honestly don't think Sef is actually trying to exploit fans at this rate, because in spite of the increase in minimum patreon plegde, any who dropped when the increase was pushed are now back to where they stopped pledging.

If free updates continue at this rate, there might not even be a reason to come back to this thread. It's been good while it lasted
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 04:23:24 No.1504812
Can someone just make a channel in telegram or something to spam the comic pages? We don't need it to be public.
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 05:07:44 No.1504823
>>1504812
I'd love that, but tbh, how is anyone going to make it know it exists without posting it here?

Just make it and hope people stumble upon it without knowing it even exists?
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 06:32:47 No.1504845
I may have found a way to bypass the watermarks. Will post back tomorrow with results + steps
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 07:50:50 No.1504859
>>1504845
Just don't post it here with overconfidence until you're sure, really make sure you discussed and thoroughly checked, as everyone else before you has been banned, you are like the last hope in a way.
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 10:49:07 No.1504895
>>1504845
Do you know about those moving shape transparent watermarks? Apparently they change based on download time and they are difficult to spot and nigh impossible to get rid of. It may be that the only way to get rid of them is to compare multiple pages. So What measures have you taken thus far?
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 14:16:52 No.1504922
>>1504895
You say you can see them, so what's stopping one from just painting over them or something?

What's so impossible to get rid of them?
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 14:43:22 No.1504924
Has the subject of tracing the images come up?
Nvm, found it was only mentioned once.

Edited at 2018/10/12 14:49:47
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 18:25:20 No.1504961
File: warp_u18chan.jpg - (742.59kb, 936x1200, warp.jpg)
>>1504895
Why not just warp the page slightly in Photoshop using the Warp function, if they really are detecting by watermark or textbox placement. That would throw them off entirely. And apply other filters that users have mentioned above to erase any other watermarks.
>>1175157
Compared to this.

Additionally, just compare the image she posts on FA with the same image posted on here to see if there are any movements in text, which would indicate that they are indeed using text placement to find out who's leaking what.

Edited at 2018/10/12 18:26:52
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Anonymous 2018/10/12 23:53:22 No.1505067
Oh snap, saw an image and thought the page was finally leaked. I was bamboozled. :(
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 02:05:17 No.1505128
>>1504924
too much work when you could just scale down to like 100 pixels wide

>>1505067
me too thanks

oh yeah, we can just diff the pages on primeleak against the free pages *facepalm*

someone want to try that and report back?
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 03:38:35 No.1505148
>>1505067
It was all just a dream. And like most dreams it ended right before something good was about to happen. ' ^'
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 05:41:16 No.1505204
File: Hole_in_One_u18chan.png - (2.29mb, 638x2844, Hole_in_One.png)
>>1500240
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 05:52:40 No.1505208
>>1505204
Please tell me you scrubbed this first.

And looks like the comic is about to get drawn out again with another drama about bird Anatomy, OH JOY! /s

Edited at 2018/10/13 05:58:50
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 06:23:44 No.1505215
>>1505204
wit is that the actuall page or some additional side content she made
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 07:22:12 No.1505228
Am I the only one who's level-headed of Patreon content? I'm very good at waiting for the stuff to be released eventually.
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 08:22:34 No.1505244
>>1505228
Until very recently, that 'eventually' was 8 months, and I don't know about you, but I wasn't waiting THAT long for a comic that's already lasted 2 years.
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 09:54:56 No.1505267
>>1505204
That looks more like a cloaca. I'm happy.
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Anonymous 2018/10/13 18:30:34 No.1505387
It's not actually a page. I'm pretty sure it's just a random image she made since it's not under the comic section
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Anonymous 2018/10/14 02:25:44 No.1505507
>>1505426
If there are any leakers left, it seems they've wizened up to the fact that all previous methods have been busted, so any upload with even meticulous scrubbing still results in a ban.

With pre-paid cards banned by patreon, No-one wants to get their few true bank cards blacklisted just to leak here.

Until there is a solution to account burning, uploads might be once a year.
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Anonymous 2018/10/14 03:31:50 No.1505527
Oh boy... I already see at least one watermark in that image. 's on the top left of the frame with Dev's wolfdong and the "?". This cat and mouse game is too funny and kinda not x)
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Anonymous 2018/10/14 04:18:23 No.1505543
>>1505527
Great, so guess we'll assume that guys been banned already for not actually putting in any effort to scrub. ffs...
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Anonymous 2018/10/14 08:46:34 No.1505606
>>1505527
Such an obvious one as well
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Anonymous 2018/10/16 21:42:29 No.1506633
>>1505527
Tweaked values a bit and found 10 watermarks in total, including the obvious one. My methods might've been slightly impractical. There's probably even more.
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Anonymous 2018/10/17 00:42:05 No.1506677
Too many people before you thought they were hot stuff and so sure about thier own methods, only to be stuck down every damn time. And since it's real bank cards only on patreon now, there was no 2nd chances.

I urge you not to post and make the same mistakes if you have even the smallest doubts of missing something. We've seen this too many times of over confident people to know better.
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Anonymous 2018/10/17 06:10:45 No.1506738
>>1506677
Oh i just killed some time and searched watermarks from that last pic. I'm not a patron.
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 03:38:09 No.1506967
Anyone else 100% positive all the people whining that Primeleap can never be hacked are Sef or her white knights just trying to keep anyone from trying very hard?
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 05:06:27 No.1506999
>>1506967
Dunno, seems people havn't been trying at all for all this month tbh. I've been waiting for a leak but none come. I'll be pissed if this means Sef wins cuz fuck him.

Edited at 2018/10/18 05:08:50
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 16:22:37 No.1507191
>>1507172
Exactly. That's the best way to deal with retards begging for attention.
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 18:59:07 No.1507209
There shouldn't be any need for people to figure out how to scrub clean the watermark codes since that's already been accomplished and it's a non issue at this point.

The real thing people should think about is the transparent shapes that are seemingly unique to each user.
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 21:16:16 No.1507252
File: NHNF_writeup_u18chan.jpg - (312.28kb, 809x724, NHNF_writeup.jpg)
I said I'd try writing up a small drabble and since we all kind of wanted a beak full of wolf cream I figured that's a good place to go at it.

I have a few other ideas on small story changes but this is also my first time writing any kind of smut. So I could do more if you all want or you can boo, sneer, whatever and it'd be...(dare I say it)... no harm no fowl
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 23:16:55 No.1507277
>>1507252

Yes, do more please, this'll most likely be all that we have.
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Anonymous 2018/10/18 23:33:35 No.1507282
Whats going on? There's been no new page this entire month?
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Anonymous 2018/10/19 05:49:47 No.1507356
3 more pages were uploaded on Primeleap and yet we're getting nothing here.

Either people are taking their sweet ass time scrubbing for watermarks, or all the leakers we had are basically all banned and done.

Edited at 2018/10/19 05:50:15
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Anonymous 2018/10/19 06:12:47 No.1507366
>>1507356
Ah shit. Doubt its the former. if you take 3 weeks to scrub a page, its probably not worth it.

I assume you got Primeleap access but don't want to scrub for nothing essentially, I don't blame ya.

So what happens now?

Edited at 2018/10/19 06:13:43
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Anonymous 2018/10/19 09:42:57 No.1507411
Someone send me $5 PayPal and I'll see if I can make an AI to bypass the security features on the image
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Anonymous 2018/10/19 12:22:32 No.1507436
>>1507411
Sounds like that AI is one that gives money to Sef. I'll pass.
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 01:06:07 No.1507607
I'm not surprise people are putting in that much effort here anymore. There's honestly no real reason to put any effort into leaking since the pages have caught up significantly, so what's worth the risk of getting banned when if you wait just 2 more weeks to start seeing new content or wait for somebody to suicide?

The only real reason why any of us were putting in real effort to leak and come up with methods was because it was 35+ weeks behind the patreon page and because it was slow as fuck in terms of story. Now that it has caught up to a reasonable position (after the heavy backlash about the change to $5 and being accused of scamming all of her patrons because of it. I was already $5 to begin with, so I didn't really care that much.), there's pretty much 0 reason to put in any effort to leak. If the public gets it quickly, there's no reason to leak.

Doesn't mean somebody will come up with a way, though. I mean, I pretty much figured a way around the unique transparent shapes. It ain't super pretty, but hey, it works and it's miles better than blur guys posts, but I'd rather not post it here. In retrospect, it was pretty retarded of me to post the original method since it pretty much did them a service. Even though I figured out how to circumvent this watermark (rather easily if you ask me. Takes like 5 minutes of work and it's impossible to notice that a shape was there.), posting it will just make them add a new layer before it becomes the standard for everybody and everything.

On another note, I did come away with something even better. It's actually some of the source code for the site, though I ain't saying how I got it or wouldn't even think about posting it. I'll just use it for my own learning for web development and that's it, though I will say that the making of the water marks were rather simple.

Edited at 2018/10/20 01:45:09
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 02:20:32 No.1507617
>>1507607
Fair enough, but this wont be the end of Primeleap, more artists join it over time and its gonna create a giant catcher of leakers not just for Sef, but for a lot of others.

Even now, artists in it like Blitzdrachin and Kayla-Na, artists people despise for their paywalls are in it, and there used to be leaks all the time, but with Primeleap, there were real consequences, and now we got jack shit.

Letting it grow will only give it more power over time.
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 02:45:16 No.1507626
>>1507617
Honestly, their system is rather simplistic and it's only meant to stop idiots from leaking (people who don't clean it of watermarks and instead just grab and post.). Given the time (and somebody who actually thinks), a person can end up breaking their system and leaking it. There's only so much you can do before it starts ruining the image for legit people. I sat down for maybe a couple of hours at most and broke the watermark IDs, any potential image data, and now transparent shapes, but like I said before, I'd rather not post the method for the shapes because it's just going to be more back and forth until it ruins it for legit people.

As for the other people, there needs to be a reason for people to leak and whether or not its worth it. Take a look at Danza. No DRM whatsoever and still sends out emails to people, yet nobody is leaking his art because it isn't worth it what so ever. He's a greedy cunt that keeps walling off his art with more layers each month even though nobody is leaking. He's just doing it for more money. Kayla-Na has rather "simplistic" artwork with only 10% of it being worth while. She needs to give up on undertale too. And blitz, even when they have at max 3 watermarks and nothing else on their image, nobody was leaking their work because it wasn't worth the effort for some basic artwork that people can get elsewhere.

Also, not everybody who uses primeleap is installing DRM. Most just want a place to prevent yiff.party from scraping their page (to which the site is broken and scraping hasn't been working since 3 months ago. Everything is manual.). I know of at least a couple of artist who use primeleap who don't even put a single water mark on their image. Their reasoning was just wanting a place so yiff.party doesn't nab their work and not go to extremes with watermarks. The only person I've seen who went so far with watermarks is sef, and that's only for the NHNF pages. I'm not joking either. She has other images she posts on primeleap that barely have any watermarks and no transparent shapes. She's just going full force for these comic pages.
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 03:43:42 No.1507643
File: NoHarmNoFowl_u18chan2_u18chan.jpg - (1.07mb, 2674x3426, NoHarmNoFowl_u18chan2.jpg)
>>1499930
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 03:46:52 No.1507644
>>1507626
Yeah, I'm pretty done with Primeleap after all this, give them a rest for the rest of the year and see what happens.

Right now, you've gotten me to focus on Danza, if that's true, something should be done about him. I do have reservations, what if him being targeted next makes him wanna join Primeleap?
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 20:33:03 No.1507825
Anyone want the new pages? Just want to know before I waste my time scrubbing.
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 21:12:40 No.1507869
>>1507825

Of course,new pages would be great but please be absolutely certain before you post.It would be a shame if you would get your account banned.
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 22:00:32 No.1507942
>>1507825
Want em too pls, but yes, be carefull
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 22:03:10 No.1507948
>>1507825
Highly risky, all previous methods we're busted, you have to consider you will lose total access despite your best efforts. Decide if this is something you're willing to lose if it all goes wrong, if not, better not man. Comic pages are only a few weeks behind public anyway.

Since we know it's based off download times, don't be an idiot and download all the missing pages at once, start with the one three weeks ago and post that one alone, don't download the others until days apart.

Edited at 2018/10/20 22:08:14
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 23:16:31 No.1508004
>>1507948
>>1507825

It's more than just download times. There's also the unique (yes, they're uniquely positioned from the looks of it) transparent shapes on the pages too that are almost impossible to spot unless you know they're there. They can survive just about filtering/cleaning technique out there besides a couple that I know of, but won't mention.

Also you need to ask yourself the higher consequence question. Is it worth it when there are new pages being posted publicly in a couple of weeks? Is it worth the risk of (most likely) getting banned? Maybe, but the other question is, is it worth the risk of having them develop yet another water mark that might be standard for every patreon in existence? Are you sure that what you have won't just spawn another hydra head?
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 23:22:04 No.1508008
If all it is looking for is the watermarks, that won't be a problem. I wont be using any of the original pic In the final result. It should just be another picture to prime leap... in theory...
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Anonymous 2018/10/20 23:34:00 No.1508014
There's nothing worth seeing on the new pages, trust me. You will not be able to spot all the watermarks without a second source to compare with, meaning you'll have to butcher the pages anyways.

>"I don't think either of us wants this to end so soon..."

>138
>"Right?"
>Cock view
>Mutual heavy breathing
>He rubs her chest

>139
>"Ahh" "Ooh" "Ahh"
>He licks up her chest

>140
>He licks the side of her head
>"Oh- Dev..."
>Single panel viewing her cloaca
>He lays his dick down across it between her legs
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 00:35:43 No.1508031
Eh, don't worry about it mate, you're right thread is dead. Sucks that Sef basically has won now.

But Jesus, this Primeleap thou. I remember when we were all laughing about it, Based on how well copyright protection works on things like movies and other media that clearly are just rampant with how ineffective it is.

But with Primeleap, it just wasn't like anything that artists tried before, then the bans came, and they didn't just block accounts, but entire credit cards, names, addresses, ips. A Ban was unpassable through VPNs, new accounts, Paypal, prepaid cards, different computers, anything I tried was already fucked.

How did we come to this? Ah well, who cares anymore.
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 02:26:43 No.1508051
>>1508031
I don't think they won. Are more people actually paying now, or are they simply content waiting a few weeks instead of what was months? Dozens of pages were already leaked, their toxic entitled behavior exposed who they really are, and now legitimate customers are hurt through at best additional loopholes, watermarks, and questionable privacy, but at worst misplaced bans.

From Patreon's terms, they don't provide all that much information on the patrons to the creators other than some of what Paypal knows. I don't doubt the creators try and dox as much as they can though, and Primeleap does some additional data collection themselves that may or may not get shared.

I would leak the pages, but again it's just not worth it right now. When something juicy goes up I will. I don't give a shit about my subscription, I give a shit about these people understanding what the internet is in the 21st century and how to behave toward customers if they expect to stay in business, while hurting what ill-gotten support they may already have. People here need not be all expectant or doom and gloom either; let it come.
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 02:30:18 No.1508052
Why doesn't anyone do what the other anon a while ago suggested just put it in a mega folder and link it
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 03:02:50 No.1508061
>>1508031
Nah, piracy can't be stopped nor can DRM win since it always eventually gets broken (this is true for all forms of DRM). I already broke the transparent shapes with one method (and I actually found another, easier way too just now), but as I said numerous amounts of times, there's really no point in posting the methods or images cleaned that way because it'll be fine for a few weeks and then they add something new and then that eventually gets broken too and then they make a new thing and it goes on and on and on and on until it becomes boring. Basically, now that it's caught up significantly, there's no point in putting in effort of doing it each week and so on. I mean, you could, but when it's not that far behind, there's no reason to.

Also, I find it impossible to continuously ban 1 person when they sign up with new accounts with different info. Just don't sign up the moment you got banned, clear your cache and cookies so the shit isn't the same, sign up to patreon with a prepaid visa, and change you IP with a VPN before doing so. I've done this multiple times and haven't been caught.

Again also, stop thinking it as a win and lose thing. Nobody over there won and nobody over here lost. It's just that the pages have caught up significantly and people don't want to manually spend 10 minutes cleaning the image to post it since it's not worth it when new content will be coming in just a week or so.

>>1508052
Because it accomplishes nothing
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 03:42:05 No.1508065
Personally I just want leaks from everyone on that site because I want to see them get some comeuppance for being cunts. They lost a ton of money and customers in the switch only to have their shit still leaked. That's all I want to see at this point.
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 05:00:38 No.1508076
>>1508051

Absolutely zero legit patreons give zero shits outside of the comic that lands in their emails, the majority don't check whatever happens behind an artist, they just click on the image each week and forget about everything. If you're on online forums too much you're getting a false view on what how most patreons actually treat things online, they literally don't give a shit, they got lives to lead man.

>>1508065
Unfortunately, thanks to their raised prices, the tiny lost of patreons was nothing compared to the extra cash gained, they went from $1 to $5, they would have to lose 4/5's of their customers to make less than before, and that's definitely not what happened.

Edited at 2018/10/21 05:01:55
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 05:45:38 No.1508098
>>1508014
Thanks for the text summaries, greatly appreciated!

>>1508061
>sign up to patreon with a prepaid visa
Patreon bans prepaid visas. Please let us know if you find a way to beat the restriction that they can't patch.
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Anonymous 2018/10/21 06:11:49 No.1508106
>>1508098
There's a way, but I don't really feel like saying it. There's a certain card you can use, but I don't want to name it on the off chance primeleap prevents you from using that kind of card (which will be really retarded if they start banning types of cards or payment methods if there are any else. It'll just cut a lot of their patrons. If they seriously block certain cards or certain payment methods (I don't think patreon has any other besides credit/debit) just to stop a potential $30 of lost income per month while cutting half their users, they'll be retarded).
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Anonymous 2018/10/23 10:31:52 No.1508866
>>1508106
I wouldn't put it pass them, afterall, they knew they were gonna alienate so many people with their prepaid card ban, why not do it for the loophole cards they find eventually?
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Anonymous 2018/10/23 14:09:11 No.1508904
>>1507643

Not seeing anything with an edge filter in Gimp. What are you using to detect changes?
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Anonymous 2018/10/24 03:12:01 No.1509107
>>1508904
I believe he's just point them out for people who aren't taking the time to notice them to prove that they're there. It's rather hard to spot that they exist. Easiest way is to compare it to somebody else's picture or the public one. The shapes don't show up on an edge detect, though there is a way to properly clean the image of them quickly, but as I've said before, it's not worth it since they'll just add more things into the picture.
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Anonymous 2018/10/25 00:49:56 No.1509441
>>1509386
If you've been following along with the discussion here, you would've noticed that the majority of people still left here pretty much agree that there's no point in putting effort into leaking since the public release isn't even that far behind the patreon releases anymore instead of it being more than half a year.

Does this mean any side won or lost? Well, no, not at all. If you've read, you would've noticed that their newest method of DRM just for the comic are transparent shapes that are unique to each user. What about these? Well, they're almost impossible to notice unless you compare it to a different image. So either a public one or a different user's (and we know full well people here won't really be capable of coming together to do anything. Lack of trust and coordination.). Is there anyway this can be remove 100% solo? Well, yes of course. 2 quick easy ways that anybody can do, but the image quality isn't exactly pretty (but it's a diamond compared to blur guys' image.). Then there's a suicide method without worry about being globally banned. There's also 1 new method that I've came up with, but I'm not mentioning because nobody will be able to understand it and I don't even know if it'll work, but taking a look at it, the possibility is there.

Unfortunately for here (and the people over at primeleap), I won't be disclosing on how to do any of these methods nor posting images cleaned this way for 1 sole reason and it's to prevent the needless back and forth we've had for the pass couple of months. If you're wondering what it is, it's us (me) breaking the current DRM and then they make a new layer, current poster gets banned, we (I) come up with something new with observations, it goes fine for a while, and then they add a new layer and current poster gets banned. Eventually this gets boring even though this current DRM has been broken (and potentially all future ones too if the two other methods prove to be useful), they'll just add a new layer that will further degrade the quality of the image for legit users and people will see the site as a full on 1984 palace where they can try to lock down their artwork so people can buy it.

So what now? Well, wait a week for new pages to be posted. That's when they start going public. Or wait for somebody to suicide if you want. Everybody else is pretty much just focusing their attention to Danza, but even his NSFW art is mostly fugly so people don't think it's worth it.
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Anonymous 2018/10/25 01:58:54 No.1509458
>>1509441
Are they really thou? Seems no ones giving a shit about Danza either. There's Kayla's shit that used to be hot too, but now its cold. tbh, I think everyone's pretty much given up because now its hard. When it used to be as easy as download and upload we we're all for it, but were just not gonna put in more time when its no longer that easy.

But you're right about Danza, no protections but the demand just isn't there.
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Anonymous 2018/10/25 02:49:06 No.1509480
>>1509458
Danza just has all his stuff locked behind different tiers if you want to see his work and a lot of the times it ruins the image (like the charizard picture shown in the thread). So yeah, it's easy, but the demand for his art isn't there because it's not that good tbh. It's the same with kayla and her art.

But you are right. When it was just simple grab and post, anybody would do it because it takes like 30 seconds with no need to be cautious. With something like this, I doubt people would want to wait until the image is posted before they can go to sleep or anything just so they can be a part of the large time pool and also having to clear out the images only to be banned in a few weeks because something new was added. Just ain't worth the time when public release is just around the corner.
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Anonymous 2018/10/25 07:17:53 No.1509645
>>1509386
Yeah, just ignore all the above posts, you jackass.

>>1509441
Save your breath/fingers.
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Anonymous 2018/10/25 11:22:25 No.1509678
>>1508014

Reading this is hotter than the comic lol
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 09:16:06 No.1510100
File: 138_7_u18chan.jpg - (127.14kb, 535x685, 138.jpg)
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 09:16:07 No.1510101
File: 139_7_u18chan.jpg - (133.73kb, 535x685, 139.jpg)
>>1510100
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 09:16:09 No.1510102
File: 140_7_u18chan.jpg - (141.67kb, 535x685, 140.jpg)
>>1510100
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 09:16:10 No.1510103
File: 141_7_u18chan.jpg - (140.84kb, 535x685, 141.jpg)
>>1510100
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 11:01:23 No.1510116
All of those pages could've been a single page. Pacing, motherfucker. Ever heard of it?

I prefered the transcript to be honest
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 11:48:12 No.1510124
>>1510116
They props know they're gonna get banned, looks like a suicide, we already know blurring and thumbnailing doesn't work, so what's different here?
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 13:02:41 No.1510133
>>1510124

Not what he meant, I'm pretty sure.
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 14:08:15 No.1510139
>>1510100
>>1510101
>>1510102
>>1510103

First of all,thank you for the pages.Wether or not this was a suicide (which I doubt it was), your efforts for leaking are greatly appreciated. Also I remember someone offering to leak pages once a month here,since this is the last page of the month maybe thats what this is.
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 14:23:29 No.1510141
I'm not gonna lie. These look pretty good. I cross examined them with my own images. I don't see any transparent shapes on them, but neither do I see them on my own images, so it looks like they must've done away with it, yes? At least for now. That, or your images are cleaned so well to the point where I can't notice my own shapes.

As much as I'd like to know how you did it, it's best you don't share how. Don't do the dumb thing like I did and give primeleap step by step instructions on how to break the drm.

From the looks of it, you'd only need to be wary about post times and the inevitable new layer they add.
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Anonymous 2018/10/26 22:57:28 No.1510271
Why does this site even ban leakers when there's a legal disclaimer at the bottom of this page claiming that they're not obligated to remove content under the DMCA... So then why ban leakers? The legal disclaimer also claims that they cannot be sued for hosting someone's copyrighted content without the rights to it; only the poster could be sued. Either way a small company like primeleap would bankrupt themselves by trying to sue leakers. It seems like u18chan is just doing them a solid by banning people on here. Their legal disclaimer should be the same for all content, whether it's leaked or uploaded from a public, non-paid source like Luscious, Rule 34, etc.

"All content posted is responsibility of its respective poster and neither the site nor its staff shall be held responsible or liable in any way shape or form.
Please be aware that this kind of fetish artwork is NOT copyrightable in the hosting country and there for its copyright may not be upheld.
We are NOT obligated to remove content under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."

I guess that this statement is sometimes taken seriously by u18chan and sometimes they just go against it whenever they feel like it. What a stupid way to operate a business. This disclaimer should be applied equally across all content on this site, leaked or not.
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Star 2018/10/27 00:38:01 No.1510294
>>1510271

They don't get banned here, the artist bans them from Patreon/PrimeLeap so they can't access their stuff anymore and potentially leak it.
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Anonymous 2018/10/27 01:31:40 No.1510306
>>1510141
>but neither do I see them on my own images, so it looks like they must've done away with it, yes?
No.
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Anonymous 2018/10/27 01:56:18 No.1510312
Oh sweet! We're back at it boys! Since the leaks are back, hopefully you can get that other Primeleap Jew's stuff, Blitzdrachin. It's been like 6 months since I saw a full Rez leak from him.
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Anonymous 2018/10/27 05:11:58 No.1510357
>>1510271

Nevertheless someone has got to be a narc when it comes to IPs on here.
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Anonymous 2018/10/27 23:33:40 No.1510596
I know we're all excited about moar pages, but has anyone else noticed Addy is suddenly way bigger than she was? I guess characters suddenly changing size is one way to get around "how do birb survive dick bigger than birb?"
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 07:29:04 No.1512493
File: 142_10_u18chan.jpg - (96.63kb, 535x685, 142.jpg)
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 08:13:17 No.1512511
>>1512493
What the? Did you erase like half the comic man?...
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 10:24:44 No.1512532
>>1512511

We're not missing anything anyway
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 10:37:56 No.1512535
>>1512511
But if its necessary to erase this much of the picture for a leak, then future pages will have all the good parts wiped off them, and then what? Back to transcribing I guess. Since releasing images that fucked up seem pointless to me.
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 17:09:42 No.1512617
What happened to the full resolution pictures?
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Anonymous 2018/11/02 18:06:12 No.1512635
No porn is worth this much work lol
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Anonymous 2018/11/03 00:30:53 No.1512709
>>1512617
If only we could ask all the many, many previously banned people why we don't do that anymore.
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Anonymous 2018/11/03 22:26:17 No.1513123
I don't think people does it only for the porn at this point
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Anonymous 2018/11/04 07:37:36 No.1513396
>>1512493
well do let us know if this bold new strategy of erasing most of it works
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Anonymous 2018/11/05 10:52:35 No.1513825
>>1513677
What good is releasing all the pages in 2 years when they're going to be released for free in that time? Do you need a single thread to easily view all the pages at once, or do you need the exclusive high resolution versions?

There's certainly much less incentive to leak now, but even disregarding the paywall itself there's still this ridiculous drawing out the action for as long as possible to hook paying customers for as long as possible. Don't be such a fucking Jew. Such exploitation and gatekeeping behavior demonstrably destroys communities and culture.
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Anonymous 2018/11/05 11:21:48 No.1513829
>>1513825
Lol, were only waiting a few weeks for the pages now. We can chill.

Meanwhile, while you're so angry about Sef's comic, Danza down there is doing the most extreme form of paywalling and is ONLY NOW, releasing 2016 stuff in his FA gallery.

Why are you so pumped to kill Sef off while Danza gets a free fucking pass every single time?
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| Cephalon | 2018/11/08 07:35:20 No.1514977
>>1513829


It's more-so that Danza can get his stuff leaked by YP, someone just needs to be willing to throw $5 every few months and you have a fresh album of dragon porn. In Sef's case they've been very unprofessional with her usage of excuses and sob stories while using extensive DRM measures and even associating with some of the most infamous furry artists short of Jasonafex, Kabier and Zaush while forcing non-paying Patreon users to be almost 8 months behind up until very recently.

Sef's built up a ton of distrust & a big grudge against people who weren't even leaking or looking for leaked content, their insistence on acting personable and playing themselves as just some random furry artist just trying to get some money from doing what they love while siding with some [as said before] unpopular and hostile artists and treating her art and fans more like a business with paying customers.

Ultimately all Sefeiren had to do to solve the issue of leaks in a big way was to directly E-Mail the comic images to their patrons or simply just make Patreon less of a requirement to view their content. People use Patreon like they're some sort of AAA game developer, using things like FA, IB or DA to 'demo' or preview their content before paywalling it instead of treating it more like how it originally was used [and how I feel it should be used.] A way of showing support and that someone earned your dollar because of high-quality content. Patreon should be the garnish of a meal, the syrup flavoring or lemon slice on your cocktail. Not the main course after an appetizer.

Edited at 2018/11/08 07:36:15
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Anonymous 2018/11/08 07:57:55 No.1514986
>>1513829
It's simple for me, Danza's art is shit.
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Anonymous 2018/11/09 09:23:08 No.1515497
File: 143_7_u18chan.jpg - (120.49kb, 535x685, 143.jpg)
>It's fucking nothing again.
They're trying really hard.
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Anonymous 2018/11/09 09:41:14 No.1515501
File: max-nut-35017295_u18chan.png - (99.49kb, 500x520, max-nut-35017295.png)
ima just..
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Anonymous 2018/11/09 10:00:18 No.1515511
>>1515497
Is the major reduction of color rendering and shading necessary because of whatever they use?

Seems the good parts gonna need to be covered up in the future pages because of this shit. :/

Edited at 2018/11/09 10:00:50
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Anonymous 2018/11/09 13:46:40 No.1515540
>>1515511
I think that Primeleap has been using some form of Digimarc equivalent which can survive enough through many photoshop filters to still be readable. I've found that vectorizing an image (like what appears to have been done in some form to these latest pages posted) neutralizes any digimarc entirely. Adding all these blocks over detail might be overkill, but people are still tense that the contents of the image are moving around on a timer as some other form of DRM attempt. I haven't bothered to try and go back to Primeleap since the original fiasco, but If the latter is true then using the "Difference" calculation in Photoshop on a sequence of the same page would highlight anything that has changed from one image to another.
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Anonymous 2018/11/10 05:06:52 No.1515773
has anyone tried tracing? i know it's a lot of work but at this point i don't think most of you are doing it for the porn XP
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Anonymous 2018/11/10 05:34:04 No.1515787
>>1515497
lol I thought they had gone back to watching TV
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Anonymous 2018/11/10 14:24:25 No.1515888
what if you just print it and then scan it back in
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 05:56:03 No.1516472
File: 1_8_u18chan.gif - (823.69kb, 778x356, 1.gif)
It really isn't this hard to remove the watermarks, guys. I'd do it myself, but my proxy Paypals got verification-locked.

I've already come up with a process for all this shit back when Blitzdrachin first implemented it into her website. She went full schizo, so I pumped the brakes on that quest.

I'll write out a quick guide, but keep in mind that some things may have changed since then, or I may have forgotten some details.


1. Download the files as a normal user would (no scraping bots or manually changing the URLs). If you have multiple VPN or proxy IP addresses at your disposal, then use only 1 of them for this step. Do not change IPs in the middle of soft-scraping.

2. Change the file name and remove all meta-data from the image. There are websites that assist with this.

3. Using GIMP or Photoshop, select the repair tool (or the Photoshop equivalent; basically it takes a texture from one area of the image and overlays it where you tell it to). Anchor a watermark-free area of the image that has the same or similar texture to the watermarked area. Transfer the anchored texture area over the watermark area. Touch it up as necessary to make it as unnoticeable as possible.

4. If you're not confident with your touch-up job, you can apply a filter over the entire image to help obfuscate the location of your re-texturing.

5. Export your edited image and upload it through a different IP address. Try not to leave behind any obvious patterns of activity, such as downloading then uploading one image after the other. Don't upload with a persistent name and don't provide any unnecessary information. You don't want to create a profile for yourself.

Things to look out for:
- The images may contain bits of information in the form of modified pixels, similar to QR codes. However, I doubt the developer has the skills needed to create such a system, at least not reliably.
- Some watermarks can be hard to spot. Examine the image very carefully.
- Make sure the location of where the watermark used to be isn't noticeable, as positional data can be used to profile you, assuming that the watermarks aren't in the same spot for all users.
- Do not post any URLs leading to Primeleap or whatever the fuck it's called now. These could contain data that can be used to identify or profile you.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 08:21:25 No.1516494
>>1515540
>>1516472
>>1515888
If you're not a subscriber and haven't taken a look at recent legitimate pages, please don't bother commenting with mere speculation. You're not helping us, nor do we even need the help right now. You're only helping *them*.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 09:29:06 No.1516503
>>1516494
Well Goddamn, finally some real truth around here. All previous buckos have been banned because they were so confident in their damn methods because yall so fucking smart. They just Assume, and Assume until WHACK! Banhammer.

Quit assuming and speculating bucks.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 15:32:38 No.1516592
>>1516494
I agree. No new ideas allowed. Lets just keep trying the same thing over and over and see if we get different results.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 17:39:56 No.1516627
>>1516592
Sarcasm aside, what OP means is that guy should butt out because his long ass post is completely obsolete. He clearly has not realize that the watermarks are a ruse, and still tries to give advice on how to remove something that's there to make people waste effort on the wrong shit.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 18:36:19 No.1516635
>>1516472
Have you been following along or not? I already broke the watermarks months ago and they're no longer an issue.

The real issue is the unique transparent shapes that get added for each user when they load it up, and it can survive almost any filtering technique besides a few that I'd rather not disclose because it'll just tell them how to fix it and inevitably add a new layer onto the image.

What OP is doing now is just fine. It may seem ridiculous, but the only thing you're missing is the bullshit amount of sparkles sef adds to each image that only the white knights thing are nice. I wouldn't be surprised if the sparkles are DRM features because there's been more and more of them lately.
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Anonymous 2018/11/12 22:34:10 No.1516714
>>1516635
>I'd rather not disclose because it'll just tell them how to fix it and inevitably add a new layer onto the image.

Then let them. Eventually there'll be so much jargon on the legitimate images that the art quality will be compromised, and the system will fail.
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Anonymous 2018/11/13 20:03:46 No.1517033
We need to coordinate. The next time someone leaks an image, please leave a burner email address in the same post as the image. I'll send you my own copy of the release for cross-referencing. This is the safest method I can think of, with all risk falling only to me.

Cross-referencing will help tremendously with determining what parts of the image are and aren't unique identifiers. That'll also leave me as a backup in case you get caught.
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 01:50:50 No.1517103
>>1517033
That's assuming there will be even anymore leaks, its hard to know if our last guy has been banned or not.
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ResNov 2018/11/14 05:09:02 No.1517187
>>1517103
That'd be a shame. I'm working off of assumptions and outdated information, so I doubt I can do much on my own.

I know how the system works in general, but they've added new watermark options that I know nothing about.

I have several proxy accounts I can use if I get banned, but my budget is limited. I don't really care about the art itself, I just want to see how far I can push the limits of this system. Unfortunately, I don't have that much disposable income to put into a side hobby.
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 06:42:01 No.1517232
>>1517187
Whatever Devs those artists got for this, they must be shoving fistful of dollars down their throats.
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 09:36:58 No.1517311
alright i did it
i came up with a fool-proof system of sanitizing and obfuscating watermarked images, with (arguably) minimal degradation to the image quality, and no down-scaling.

i stayed up way too late but it's worth it if this actually works.

should i post my test image here, or wait until the next comic release just to be safe?
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 10:26:31 No.1517323
>>1517311
There will never be a 'safe' time until the whole comic is totally over, which at that point will make whatever method you got obsolete. So best do it now, put it on google drive or something, not on site.
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 12:40:56 No.1517343
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Anonymous 2018/11/14 12:47:37 No.1517345
>>1517343
Eh, after this entire months long saga of smarties thinking they have the answer before they got their arses handed to them. Can't blame you for being cynical, afterall, you are the only one who legit has a method that works.

I guess you're just sick of people assuming so far?
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Anonymous 2018/11/15 04:03:12 No.1517624
>>1517343
>>1517345
Yeah, because spending your day de-rendering an entire image and putting big blocks over half the page is much more productive than using your brain. And god forbid you get any help, amirite?

This method is more of a proof-of-concept; it needs improvements, but once it's done, de-profiling images will be much quicker and easier. The images will also retain full resolution, with only relatively-small quality degradation and artifacting.

Keep in mind that these DRM features are a double-edged sword. They may be able to add greater and tougher watermarks, but they're doing so at the expense of the quality of their own artwork. You already saw how ridiculous those stars and rings were when they got plastered all over some of the pages. At some point, the artists need to evaluate what's more important -- stopping some freeloaders from viewing their comic pages a few weeks early, or maintaining the quality and professionalism of their artwork.

My efforts might seem futile, but it's at the very least a nudge in the right direction. It's definitely better than sitting back and accepting that everything will be behind a paywall and that all pirated content will be horrendously butchered in the future.


TL;DR:
I appreciate your work, but there's no need to shit on people for being proactive. Try thinking about the bigger picture. My offer still stands if you ever change your mind.
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Anonymous 2018/11/15 05:08:35 No.1517650
I still hope that, after finishing this comic, Saf is gonna go back to the 'No Hyenas' comic.
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Anonymous 2018/11/15 07:27:49 No.1517685
>>1517650
Oh boy, do I have some bad news for you.

Edited at 2018/11/15 10:04:41
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 01:47:05 No.1517914
File: NoHarmNoFowl-139_21A75D6CD616_u18chan.png - (9.22mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 139_21A75D6CD616.png)
>>1517624
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 01:51:53 No.1517915
File: NoHarmNoFowl-140_14A07D4CD600_u18chan.png - (9.25mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 140_14A07D4CD600.png)
>>1517914
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 01:51:55 No.1517916
File: NoHarmNoFowl-141_14E9E766D5A6_u18chan.png - (9.33mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 141_14E9E766D5A6.png)
>>1517915
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 02:03:36 No.1517922
File: NoHarmNoFowl-142_31D3EF77DDB4_u18chan.png - (6.15mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 142_31D3EF77DDB4.png)
>>1517916
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 02:03:38 No.1517923
File: NoHarmNoFowl-143_497C6570E7C2_u18chan.png - (5.51mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 143_497C6570E7C2.png)
>>1517922
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 02:07:02 No.1517925
>>1517914
>>1517915
>>1517916
These are looking beautiful in resolution, but I can see all the watermarks, didn't you scrub these at all?

Were not getting today's page are we? :/
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 03:20:37 No.1517936
Do you have a high resolution page 138 as well?
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 04:35:39 No.1517950
What are the odds of this turning into a bukkake scene?
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 06:08:25 No.1517974
>>1517914
>>1517915
>>1517916
>Didn't remove the watermarks

Thank you for your noble sacrifice
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 10:36:03 No.1518064
File: NoHarmNoFowl-144_CLEAR_1_u18chan.jpg - (4.58mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 144 _ CLEAR.jpg)
Sef-1-Year-From-Now Simulator 9000


Sorry OP, not trying to step on your toes or anything. I'm just interested to see whether or not my method works.

Let me know what you guys think. With more work, I can probably produce cleaner edits... maybe
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 10:53:38 No.1518066
>>1518064
Almost there...
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 17:45:18 No.1518148
>>1518064

Don't worry about cleaner edits. If this resolution works let's not try our luck with a higher resolution. I personally prefer this kind of resolution anyway.
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 17:57:49 No.1518151
>>1518148
I don't think that's gonna matter, because he's left all the watermarks in. Darkening the page didn't do shit to them.
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 18:42:38 No.1518160
>>1518064

>WRONG HOLE, DEVON
>>1505204
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Anonymous 2018/11/16 18:47:12 No.1518162
>>1518148
I mean, it's at full resolution technically... It just looks like shit because of the obfuscation methods I put it through

>>1518151
:3c
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Anonymous 2018/11/17 23:54:23 No.1518499
>>1518064
were those bubble things in the original? they don't improve the look of the comic for me
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Anonymous 2018/11/18 02:39:01 No.1518585
Those effects are literally automatic click and drag in Clip Studio, talk about lazy.
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Anonymous 2018/11/18 20:05:53 No.1518808
So Primeleap was caught violating their own privacy policy. We're putting a case together at the moment. If all goes well, would anyone here be willing to join a class-action lawsuit?
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Anonymous 2018/11/18 22:33:58 No.1518830
>>1517923
thank you tremendously for posting these unedited images. there's so much more going on here than I realized. it's kinda ridiculous how much sef is sacrificing image quality for such a petty purpose

just to give you an idea of what we're dealing with:
https://i.gyazo.com/c7d205f5596a90013b1eaef577caa41f.gif
https://i.gyazo.com/96b44337247cee072a0aaf466b7277c3.gif

this is the difference between my image and the poster's image. everything is separated into layers and moved to a seeded random position per user per image. everything from eye reflections, blush, body parts, text bubbles, action text, backgrounds, etc. Some things are even being tweened to different aspect ratios. the background textures seem to be generated. not to mention all the transparent shapes on the image. interestingly, the background rings and stars don't seem to be unique. either she put those there to fuck with us, the system isn't working right, or it's just there in preparation for it to be added to the system.

op had the right idea about de-rendering the image and blocking out large portions. I can only assume he knew about this and either has two accounts or was collaborating with someone else. the only problem is the amount of effort and time involved in that process, only to end up with poor image quality and half the picture being blocked out.

I can't think of any good way to bypass all of this. it might be possible by collaborating with several other people, but I don't see that happening. finding an exploit in the website itself sounds like a better idea at this point.

at least Sef knows how to handle bans professionally; kudos for that
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Anonymous 2018/11/18 22:54:16 No.1518836
>>1515497
>>1517923

the left 'hand' in these two images line up perfectly. i have a feeling you got caught and decided to dump all of your unedited pages

rip
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 00:06:18 No.1518848
Or, just copy story and everything you see and draw on your own. I bet Sef will be angrier if anyone actually has "traced" his work than leak.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 02:46:57 No.1518871
>>1518848

Dude I'd pay money for a low quality trace. As long as that greedy fuck doesn't get it
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 05:03:08 No.1518912
>>1518808
You think I'm about to go to court for my rights to take private furry porn? I'll pass.

>>1518836
Considering that guy dumped all the pages he had but didn't upload the latest one last week, I'd say he got banned before then.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 05:49:38 No.1518926
>>1517923
Holy shit, that's insane. I found a way to remove those shapes, but I didn't know parts of the image actually change. I'm hoping that's just time based and if I start posting versions without the shapes as soon as they come available I'll be invisible.

Right now I have a bot setup to download the latest imahe as soon as it comes online, and I have method setup to remove the shapes.

Wish me luck.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 05:49:43 No.1518927
>>1518912
This has more to do with Vicar secretly storing personal data and tracking people illegally than it has anything to do with furry porn. You wont necessarily have to go to court, all we really need is signatures stating that you visited the website during the time span that illegal tracking and data collection took place without disclosure.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 06:23:13 No.1518936
>>1518926
That bot alone is going to get you caught. Vicar can also profile you based on screen size, GPU, browser type & version, browser addons, and other information. His privacy policy says that he only collects IP addresses, but he's demonstrated that to be a lie, hence the lawsuit.

Also, even if you manage to remove those transparent shapes, it wont really matter. Don't get false ideas into your head about it being time-based. That'd be pointless since they already have a system in place to generate a unique seed per user per image. Even if it was time-based, it'd be using timestamps by the millisecond, and I doubt you're going to download the image at the same millisecond as someone else. Being the very first person to download an image long before anyone else even loads the page is just going to make you suspicious as fuck.

I also have a feeling you're going to be continuously sending requests to the website, which not only makes you stand out as an obvious bot, but also runs the risk of violating their TOS, in which they can just preemptively ban you before you even have the chance to download the image. Overall, this sounds like a bad idea.

>>1518848
>>1518871
At this point, this might be the only workable method. You'd still have to be careful not to trace the image exactly how it was, since the general position of things can still give you away. There's still the issue of how much time and effort that'd require. It also feels pretty scummy to trace someone's artwork, but I guess as long as you're not claiming it as your own or profiting off of it...
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 07:08:06 No.1518944
File: NoHarmNoFowl-144_B98BFD44EFF4_u18chan.png - (6.82mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 144_B98BFD44EFF4.png)
oh right here's the unedited version
someone should compare it to their own and see if there's anything new she did
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 07:36:19 No.1518950
>>1518830
Man this is some advanced level DRM shit. It's no wonder folks kept getting fucked over despite scrubbing for the usual watermarks we're used to. I didn't expect it to go as far as Sef moving stuff around WITHIN THE ART ITSELF.
Jfc is she really that insecure about people leaking her stuff to where she feels compelled to mess with the actual art to catch them? That's just nutzo.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 09:16:29 No.1518968
This is actually a disgusting practice, because not only are you getting a different image from another person, you could be missing out on segments of the image based on this shit way of protecting the image. Example, the wing on the top is covering up details of her leg or neck based on the position of 'watermarking', and her foot details are pretty much gone on the middle right.

Thank you for sharing this. I will never support anyone using primeleap or any of these shady tactics ever again.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 10:38:52 No.1518977
>>1518968
Well, if that's the case, say good bye to the entirety of every Patreon artist you like, because Primeleap just went public.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 10:57:32 No.1518981
>>1518944
WTF, why is everyone uploading unedited versions in one hit, are you all trying to get banned or what!?
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 11:31:28 No.1518985
>>1518977

Thankfully all the artists I do like don't use patreon as a paywall or don't use primeleap. if they do, i'm dropping them like flies. there's literally no reason to treat supporters with lower-quality results like this, when patreon has done fine with how it's operated without the inclusion of primeleap. if the artist wants to lose out on quite a few dollars for this shitty service, more power to them. But they won't receive my money anymore.
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Anonymous 2018/11/19 15:57:09 No.1519027
It's pretty petty that sef cares less about making good art for everybody and more about catching 1-2 leakers for a community of 5-10 people like it would make a difference for her. It's really disappointing to see how much steps she takes to catch a leaker. It's obvious at this point she doesn't give a shit about the quality of her art. She just cares about money and that's it. A public persona of being the sweet, kind lady who has a hurt wrist, but a private persona of a greedy cunt.

Yeah, call me petty for freeloading, it doesn't matter. I'd rather be a freeloader than somebody who lies about their health in order to make more money and screws with the quality of my content because I only care about money.

As for anybody considering moving over to primeleap, it's going to be a divider for you and your community. If you're worried about Yiff.party, don't be. The site has been broken for over a year now and only stands as a public repository for manual uploads. There's no bot accounts scraping your page or anything.

People just want porn. It's that simple. Those people don't want any extra loops. They just want to pay once and sit back and receive what they pay for. They don't want to have to make multiple accounts to other places that potentially steals their private info in order to view what they paid for. It also doesn't matter what your loud minority says. A couple of your biggest fans won't care, but you'll stir your lurkers who don't want to deal with the shit and you'll ultimately end up causing a divide, especially if you turn into a crazy woman years pass her prime and turn your content into the physical manifestation of 1984.
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Vicar Screencaps Alibaba 2018/11/19 23:50:33 No.1519150
>>1518977
The public version of PrimeLeap does not include DRM features. They're very selective in who they give the DRM features to, with Sef being the ones to decide whether or not you should be allowed into their trust circle. It's how they prevent anyone from leaking how the system works and what new features they've added.

I'll go ahead and release my screencaps during my time talking with Vicar. Note that he uses information about my computer to link me with another account caught leaking images. The funny part is that I haven't actually leaked anything, so I assume he's just going off of vague profiling.

Either way, he still admitted to collecting information from my computer, despite his privacy policy at the time clearly stating that he only collects IP addresses. He also claimed to have "code running" on not just PrimeLeap, but also Patreon and "a few other places". I seriously doubt that he has any code anywhere other than PrimeLeap, it's CDN, and whatever websites he created for other artists (Blitzdrachin's now-defunct website is the only one I know of). If he wasn't lying, though, that would be a colossal breach of not only his policy, but Patreon's as well.

After my last message, I was blocked the next day without a word.


Screencaps gallery:
https://imgur.com/a/4L8kgfK
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Anonymous 2018/11/20 01:41:48 No.1519173
lol forget about the whole "no more free porn thing". What we'll be getting here is a tight knit and highly paranoid community founded by a bunch of sociopaths (Blitz, Kayla-Na), who will now dictate who gets protection and who doesn't. With both patreon and now tumblr becoming very volatile places for artists, this site will probably start looking appealing to some. And I feel like we've seen far too often how toxic and damaging these little close knit social circles can end up being to the furry community as a whole. So get ready for the new wave of patreon, run by a bunch of furries that can barely keep their life together, much less run a company. I had really hoped we could have brought down this site sooner before it got big but I guess it was too much to ask.
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Anonymous 2018/11/20 02:26:01 No.1519185
>>1519150
>code running in other places.

Lmao, how much you want to bet they have code running here? How are they running code running on patreon too? They trying to inject it or what?

Also, it makes sense why sef is going full on bullshit 1984 levels of DRM, she's pretty much the head admin for the site and is only going to allow trusted people. Looks like that'll be nobody.

Also strange how he mentions knowing you exact device/computer instead of IP. Pretty shifty shit.
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Anonymous 2018/11/20 02:37:46 No.1519187
>>1519173
When Primeleap was introduced, you know what we all did? Have a big laugh. Yeah I was laughing too, nothing of this sort ever worked in the past and we assumed whatever methods they had were piss easy watermarks clear as day in the background, and it was for a while.

But this shit kept on evolving while we laughed, and now I'm fucking as livid as you mate for letting it get this bad.

>>1519150
Dunno mate, sounds like you didn't use A VPN and literally used the same computer to sign up? That's pretty dumb on your part. I mean even baring that, you say vague profiling got you banned, but its clear he got the right person down to the wire cuz here you are mate, he didn't get it wrong, he found you out as if you were spray painted neon in the night.

I just hope that whatever you found on the site helps in the long run, but if you're collecting such information to do your planned class-action, keep that shit far away from me, I'm not about to get my real name caught for any of this crap, I'd sooner pay the $5 to Jew Sef than that staining my name with that shit in my industry.
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Anonymous 2018/11/22 03:22:13 No.1520016
>>1519624
The story is shit.
I'd be fine if there was any sorta build up to the love, but there's not, it's just page after page of staring from slightly different angles.
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Anonymous 2018/11/22 05:39:41 No.1520045
>>1520016
Are you serious, this whole story has been nothing BUT build up for 2 YEARS. That is why everyone is pissed off, all the action is about to start only after all this time.

Now I just wonder if there are even enough of us left unbanned to see it at all.
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Anonymous 2018/11/24 07:21:26 No.1520634
>>1520045
That's what I mean though.
Let's say this wasn't just a giant cock tease just to extort money that started with some cloacal jackhammering to get our hopes up then went nowhere. Let's pretend this was a purely SFW romance comic.
If we take just the "romance" parts, there's fucking nothing. Literally nothing that supports it as just a story like how people defend it. They're in love with each other, Addy is a maillady, and Bird on Dog is frowned upon maybe. That's it. We know nothing of their world, nothing of their personalities, no idea why the feel the need to help each other since everybody seems paired with a bird maybe. There's just fucking nothing but close ups of faces. Page after fucking page of close ups.
God damn it I just wanted to see a fucking feral bird take the knot and now this artist went from being high tier for me to a complete pile of shit.
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Anonymous 2018/11/24 11:53:58 No.1520718
Welp, either everyone got banned now, or Sefs using some totally outrageous leaker protection that the very last of us not banned can't crack without serious effort. And if you're one of those guys, I understand if you're not willing to let your accounts go for the next page.

So fucking gay it happens when shit seems so close to the action, unless it was dragged out again? Wouldn't be surprised if so.
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Anonymous 2018/11/25 03:07:52 No.1520934
>>1520718
if ya'll dont mind waiting i can dump it all at the end of the each month, get banned, and just drop the accounts and make new ones at no real extra cost to myself
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Anonymous 2018/11/25 04:24:10 No.1520961
>>1520934
Honestly at this point, that's just the best solution to this issue without making the image look ugly. There's plenty of ways to just make new accounts with patreon with different info, so it doesn't even matter. Just make sure you don't make an account with the same IP or computer info, though. IP is obvious, but if that conversation anon posted holds any truth, they might be able to grab other computer data, so if you want to be extremely safe, just use virtual box to make accounts with a new IP and only get the stuff at the end of the month so they don't see you hopping back and forth between IPs. Quick, easy, and free. Also don't make a new account immediately after being banned if you go ahead and do that.
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Anonymous 2018/11/25 05:22:19 No.1520976
Are we focusing on destroying the site or was that just university commie talk, aka nothing but hot air?
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Anonymous 2018/11/25 06:00:10 No.1520990
>>1520976
Yeah it's pretty much all bark and no bite. It's the same as when folks wanted Patreon to get taken down. And yet here we are now with folks still using it. (Even if NSFW furries were to stop using it that leaves the SFW artists and non-furries, so Patreon would still have a crowd regardles.
Big talk with no real action tbh. I have not seen one person even try to "take Primeleap down" ever since they ragged on about it.
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 00:43:37 No.1521268
fap mode have alot of missing pages
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 02:54:33 No.1521296
>>1521268

Some asshat has been running around tagging the actual comic pages as macro, and we can't remove the tags.
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 03:25:54 No.1521305
>>1520934
Don't they get publicly released 3 weeks later or something anyway?

>>1519187
>>1520961
Nah, I used different IPs and different browser instances. I was on the same device (obviously, since how else would he use device info to link me) because I wasn't expecting him to breach his own policy.

Quoting straight from his privacy policy: "We may store usage information such as the type of device you use to access Primeleap and its owned websites, your browser type, IP address, and device ID."

The problem is, 'storing' and 'logging' are two different things. Using stored information for general analytics and website functionality is fine, but it should not be dug up for identification purposes, unless explicitly stated. Under his 'logging' section, he clearly states that only IP addresses are logged. It's also not stated what he uses the stored information for.

He's failed to reply to or acknowledge our inquiries within the 7 day limit, so we're going ahead and escalating the case from here. Step two involves notifying his domain registrar and hosting provider of the violations, and requesting more information from them.

Personally, I find it interesting that he didn't opt for informal negotiations or even arbitration when we offered it. I somehow doubt that his factory job offers attorney benefits, but I guess we'll find out.
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 04:02:51 No.1521311
>>1521305

I have entirely given up on this shitshow of a garbage comic but goddamn if this comic is the catalyst for primeleap being sued into non-existence I would be so fucking happy.

I'm going to add 'Primeleap illegally violates their own terms of service with regards to privacy and storage of personal information' to the reasons given as to why I refuse to make an account on that garbage heap of a website.
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 05:53:11 No.1521331
>>1521305
I'll believe it when I see it, because after all that has happened, I just can't convince myself that anything with happen, just like all that talk of attacking the website just became hot garbage that goes nowhere.
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Anonymous 2018/11/26 08:07:42 No.1521396
>>1521305
You know what they say. If it sounds too good to be true, then it is, but part of me is kind of wishful for it.

If it wasn't the obnoxious watermarks, the price jump with the pity excuse the moment actual sex was going to happen, or the quick switch over right before the sex scene started, I wouldn't care about it. I would've still paid and mind my own business and enjoyed it.
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Anonymous 2018/11/27 06:55:31 No.1521701
to the people who are still patrons, text summaries are always appreciated m8s
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Anonymous 2018/11/28 15:43:23 No.1522169
>>1522077
I don't know if you're just incapable of reading or retarded, but if you have read any messages, you'll find that a nice anon has plans of posting unaltered images at the end of each month. Whether or not he does it or goes about it the right way is a different question on its own.
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Anonymous 2018/11/30 22:25:38 No.1523048
We have penetration!
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 21:34:46 No.1523519
File: Birdalpha_u18chan.png - (1.34mb, 1018x1350, Birdalpha.png)
Sorry about the delay guys, ended up having a bit more on my plate than i thought
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 21:41:37 No.1523521
File: Birdbeta_u18chan.png - (1.72mb, 1021x1341, Birdbeta.png)
>>1523519
Oh wow, just noticed how many pages got deleted, guess even the jannies are against us now
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 23:08:37 No.1523544
owo, what's this?
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 23:09:47 No.1523545
File: 15219536_1189625877787442_1217998468715537187_n_0_u18chan.jpg - (14.51kb, 480x310, 15219536_1189625877787442_1217998468715537187_n.jpg)
yesss
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 23:12:22 No.1523546
Thanks for the good porn.
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 23:13:29 No.1523548
>>1175154
Upload everything!
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Anonymous 2018/12/01 23:32:55 No.1523550
>>1523548
Uh that's from two years ago.
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Anonymous 2018/12/02 00:52:56 No.1523575
2 years and 3 months later, we finally get to see the bird get stuffed.
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Anonymous 2018/12/02 03:29:26 No.1523609
and it not on fap mode
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Anonymous 2018/12/02 08:50:46 No.1523695
It's on fap mode but some dumbass keeps tagging all the pictures as macro and all you have to do is click on the tag and click remove
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Anonymous 2018/12/02 14:03:08 No.1523790
>>1523521
That wing on the face is actually pretty sweet.
Also who's the dumbfuck that keeps tagging the pages as macro?
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Anonymous 2018/12/02 14:15:09 No.1523792
page 147
devon ! Wrong hole! Wrong hole Devon!

Trollface*
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Anonymous 2018/12/03 01:58:37 No.1524034
Anybody else generally grossed out by the way Sef colors wet dicks? It looks like he dunked it in filthy dishwater. Can't even tell it's being moved into the bird without a text cue. The finger fucking scene was so much hotter than this.
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Anonymous 2018/12/04 15:33:18 No.1524617
Could a mod come in and remove the "macro" tags from the legit comic pages?
There are even posts without pictures attached at all getting tagged as macro, this is getting ridiculous.

Edited at 2018/12/04 15:33:40
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Anonymous 2018/12/05 08:41:18 No.1524896
You can remove tags yourself. Click them, then click remove. EZ
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Anonymous 2018/12/05 18:32:46 No.1525008
>>1524896


False, do that and then refresh the page, you'll find that every tag you tried to remove is right back where it was. A mod has to do it, you cannot remove tags that other people have made.
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Anonymous 2018/12/06 07:48:42 No.1525288
What's the big deal about macro tags?
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Anonymous 2018/12/06 12:47:11 No.1525334
>>1525288
you use them to tag macro images like reaction images and shit that have literally nothing to do with the comic or thread theme so you can hide all images with that tag. so if you're turning off text replies and want to remove macro images so you can look at the comic without seeing a bunch of shitposting the comic pages also tagged as macro get removed by disabling posts with that tag.
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Anonymous 2018/12/07 12:03:21 No.1525710
>>1520045

If you want to see how to build up a romance in a concise, punchy way in a comic, look up The Angel in the Forest.

Only been going since October and the characters and romance are far more fleshed out than this, and that's with some very badly translated Spanish to English.

The art is simple and rough, but the visual storytelling is what this comic wished it could do.
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Anonymous 2018/12/08 00:14:20 No.1525928
>>1521296
>>1523695
>>1524617

Maybe it's Sef who is macro tagging
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Anonymous 2018/12/09 16:06:17 No.1526495
>>1525710

I think you nailed it right on the head with the 'visual storytelling' for that story. It seems most of the dialogue and expressions in that one speak volumes past their frontface value which gives the story surprising depth for a simplistic art style and some broken english. Whereas here, each expression and basic speech is 'aesthetic' or 'dramatic' and just adds a hollow, unnecessary two year build-up with little to no emtional attachment to the characters...

All-in-all, thanks for introducing that wonderful story to me here!! I like it alot
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Anonymous 2018/12/10 16:43:16 No.1526771
>>1526495

>All-in-all, thanks for introducing that wonderful story to me here!! I like it alot

I second that. The story has a kind of nostalgic feeling for me, it reminds me a lot of the old cartoons that weren't afraid to be gloomy. Could very well be a story board for one, if not for the gay stuff.
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 00:31:30 No.1526875
new pages is here
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 06:39:55 No.1526962
>>1526875
I'm not getting banned for them, find someone else. (Has anyone cracked the new drm yet or we just committing suicide for pages now?)
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 16:19:11 No.1527064
New pages in primeleap
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 16:32:44 No.1527068
File: Untitled-1_7_u18chan.jpg - (29.98kb, 296x243, Untitled-1.jpg)
>>1526962

DRM? Are we talking about those blatantly obvious codes placed in the frame?
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 16:41:41 No.1527073
New pages aren't going to be leaked when they get posted. New OP says he's going to post a batch of images at the end of each month because it's

1. Cheaper
2. Easier

Don't beg for pages the moment they come out because it's not going to happen. It's better to pay $5 to leak 4 unobstructed images once a month than it is to play cat and mouse uploading severely edited images the day they come out.

>>1527068
Stop. Just stop. Do a bit of reading before you decide to post something.
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 17:08:19 No.1527079
>>1527068
If you really think thats all Sefs got, paint over the codes and upload your page and we'll see what happens. Big hint, don't fucking do it.
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Anonymous 2018/12/11 19:56:21 No.1527106
>>1527068
No, because if you had a brain to even try reading the earlier posts you'd see it is a LOT more extreme than just putting simple number letter codes in.
Like said before, Sef literally MOVES PARTS OF THE PICTURES THEMSELVES around to catch leakers. There's no way to truly avoid that.

Edited at 2018/12/11 19:57:50
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 08:53:26 No.1527270
ngl, I've lost all interest in this comic. between the years of stalling and so much ridiculous DRM that the pages looks like shit, it's not even worth anyone's time anymore.

hope you all have fun
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 10:30:42 No.1527284
>>1527270
Then you're letting Sef fucking win. After 2 YEARS of bullshit you can't let her off the hook now.
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 15:02:56 No.1527331
>>1527284

The free updates are only three pages behind and this has not notably affected her income from the comic at any point. Sef was never on a hook, and you're deluded if you honestly believe this was about some noble struggle against immoral business practices at any point.
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 16:05:10 No.1527345
>>1527331
Damn right mate, that guy above you is a bloody idiot if he thinks that. According to that patreon stat recording site, seems the income may have increased since Sef went $5 instead. So to the guy trying to wage non-exsitant war against Sef, get bent mate.
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 19:15:21 No.1527386
>>1527345
Leaking never hurt her profits but she was so bent on thinking it did. She makes a ton of money now because of that god awful $4 price jump right before sex, so leaking will do less than nothing to her profits, but she'll continue to believe we're stealing food out of her families mouths.

Doesn't matter, though. Can't be bothered playing cat and mouse with the images? That's fine. A much better solution, which we have now, is to just leak unaltered images each month since it costs the same amount as a regular monthly pledge.
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Anonymous 2018/12/12 21:07:31 No.1527408
>>1527386
Well said, now just hope the rest of these neck beards can handle waiting instead of being so bloody entitled. Suck Sefs nuts boys.
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Chatin 2018/12/15 06:57:36 No.1528042
Cleaned the thread some. I think it's time for a new thread with just the images in it lol
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Anonymous 2018/12/16 01:50:25 No.1528214
>>1518808
Hmmmm, I wonder how this is going, I'ma put all my money on jackshit, because wtf are you thinking man, who wants to put their real names up in court for a FURRY PORN COMIC?

>>1528042
There's only so much text because every fails so hard at trying to win against a evolving DRM. Shit, I see at least 2 new ones since the last image was leaked, so its about time y'all just accepted the L and do the monthly suicide.

Edited at 2018/12/16 01:53:49
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Anonymous 2018/12/18 04:57:17 No.1528901
I find it funny people are so butthurt about the leaks not being available even though they're still posting the comic for free. It's a product they're creating that takes hours a day from their life to create content for others just like a job. If don't like it then search for the free porn, but if you want it now then pay for it :P They are in no way shape or form required to work to create product for free.
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Anonymous 2018/12/18 05:57:26 No.1528948
>>1527073
>>1527386
I don't know about anyone else but I was actually refunded my $5, lol.
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Anonymous 2018/12/18 23:57:33 No.1529203
have 2 new pages on primeleap.
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 05:48:21 No.1529306
So on top of the breach of privacy has anyone reported these people for potential tax evasion?
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 07:42:13 No.1529324
No one has done shit, stop trying to make it a legal issue no one cares about.
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 15:58:20 No.1529387
>>1529306
Brah, Tax evasion? What is this desperation? You wouldn't be able to find that anyway, the platform they're using hasn't been around for 12 months.

Edited at 2018/12/19 16:01:04
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 18:23:19 No.1529422
>>1529306
This is the reason why people think we're retarded
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 19:56:31 No.1529445
File: 2018-12-20_01-54-02_u18chan.png - (40.54kb, 893x1394, 2018-12-20_01-54-02.png)
so...
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Anonymous 2018/12/19 23:16:43 No.1529477
>>1529387
If they are located in the USA they can be reported to the IRS for tax evasion.They are technically self employed so they dont get tax money taken from their pay checks,they only pay the patreon fee.If Sef is doing her stuff correctly she is has to do her tax payments herself.It doesn't matter that primeleap isn't even a year old,primeleap isn't the site that collects their money,it's just an extra secrurity measure they came up with to stop leaks.The patreon has been on for over 3 years now and if they didnt pay their taxes in all that time...oh boi
>>1529422
and it's not retarded,not knowing tax laws is the stupid thing here.

You simply visit the site of the IRS and fill out the form for reporting tax fraud if u want. This is actually a thing that will work judging from all these girls selling nudes over on patreon being reported and whining on twitter for recieving mail from the IRS.

From a legal point it's totally fine but on a moral level thats up for debate.
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Anonymous 2018/12/21 02:37:47 No.1529803
page 149 is delayed not page 148 (were is that page)
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Anonymous 2018/12/21 11:27:12 No.1529911
Holy shit you guys are thirsty. And judging by the fact no one has leaked, even the leakers don't wanna feed you all.
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Anonymous 2018/12/21 17:19:14 No.1529958
>>1529477
Is it possible to do an eye roll on the Internet? I swear I’ve seen this tax evasiaon crusader’s bullshit towards another artist before like he’s some sort of government accountant instead of some nerdy introvert with his dick in his hand while the other one finger peck types his nonsense. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit nerd.
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Anonymous 2018/12/22 14:37:29 No.1530221
File: Allofyall_u18chan.png - (178.2kb, 500x978, All of y'all.png)
>>1529911

Considering how much everyone here shouts about how terrible the comic is, how bad Sef is and how everything about this is just the worst, it's amazing how much they bitch and moan and cry when they don't consistently get more of it.

Y'all fucking obsessed and your continued wailing for pages is validating the creator more than a few dollars ever could.
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Anonym 2018/12/23 11:05:40 No.1530405
There's nothing worth leaking yet. The only thing leaking is the birb.
Next pages just show him inserting himself until the knot, displayed on 6-7 panels of course, and then D evon thrusting himself with a wide angle shot that covers half a page.
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Anonymous 2018/12/24 15:30:21 No.1530884
https://e-hentai.org/g/1333989/247264dc48/ here's the russian version being updated regularly
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Anonymous 2018/12/25 00:25:42 No.1531020
>>1530884
Are you trolling? There's nothing there?
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Anonymous 2018/12/25 00:26:53 No.1531021
well its gone now, rip
It was there until a few minutes ago, i was just looking at it

Edited at 2018/12/25 00:28:49
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Anonymous 2018/12/25 20:21:20 No.1531096
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Anonymous 2018/12/25 22:47:21 No.1531123
>>1530884
Good job, idiot. Why not tell sef ALL the leaking sites while you're at it...
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Anonymous 2018/12/25 23:42:17 No.1531145
Anon you fucking idiot
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 02:50:53 No.1531215
You fucking idiotic dipshit, you don't say anything about leaks on other websites, and you especially don't post links to the sites. Do you seriously lack that much common sense?
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 04:03:27 No.1531231
How's anyone gonna find the leaks if we're not allowed to tell others where?
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 04:45:04 No.1531239
I swear, almost everybody in this thread is an absolutely retard. Acting like that link was the only source for anything new. Did you all forget about the posting of all images at the end of each month?

I'm not going to be surprised when the anon who's been making suicide accounts doesn't post the images because people here lack the concept of basic english.
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AnotherPage BigSauce 2018/12/26 07:10:38 No.1531254
File: no_harm_no_fowl_147_5ed1bc6581a4_u18chan.jpg - (341.2kb, 1280x1640, no_harm_no_fowl_147_5ed1bc6581a4.jpg)
Here's the new page you animals

Edited at 2018/12/26 07:17:47
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BigSauce 2018/12/26 07:12:28 No.1531255
I did some minor tweaks to the page, If I get banned for it oh well.
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 07:35:33 No.1531259
>>1531255
No one knows what they do anymore, we're so outclassed by whatever guy they got working for them.

Anything short of a literal white page is a death sentence, sorry dude your account is gone, hope they didn't get your credit card or is while they're at it.
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 15:09:58 No.1531342
>>1531231
That's the whole point, leaks are meant to be as subtle as possible, you don't post links to sites that leak content for everyone see, and you especially don't do it if the artist WATCHES THE FUCKING WEBSITE AND ACTIVELY TRIES TO PREVENT LEAKS!! If you find a link with leaks by chance keep it to yourself, and if your going to leak shit don't say were you got it from on a public feed for everyone to see. That's just plain stupid and idiotic, not to mention senseless

Edited at 2018/12/26 15:15:21
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Anonymous 2018/12/26 15:28:46 No.1531344
>>1531231
>>1531342
Couldn't have said it any better, leaks are to be as subtle as possible, the less people know the better, if you know something just keep it to yourself and hope others find it, otherwise keep your mouth shut. The russian version on e-hentai was doing fine until anon decided to run his fucking mouth, and get it removed cause he lacks sense
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BigSauce 2018/12/27 02:24:24 No.1531546
Still not banned expect another image if I'm not banned later.
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 01:31:09 No.1532574
page 144 and 145 are public
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 01:32:40 No.1532575
Guess he was banned then or was there no page last week?
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TheBigSauce 2018/12/30 02:02:32 No.1532585
I was most definitely banned.

Oh well
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 02:26:50 No.1532589
>>1531254
How is she not dead?! This comic went to such pains trying to explain why these two wouldn’t work just for biological reasons and then..nah, magic furry expando cooch and I crushable dick as always.
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 02:31:15 No.1532591
>>1532589
uncrushable dick

Artists always forget there’s only so tight a space you can cram your sausage before it becomes intolerable agony.
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Anonym 2018/12/30 09:57:54 No.1532770
Page 149 is another coitus interruptus.
Addy starts clawing the air and Devon panicks and restricts her. Last panel has something along the lines of "Addy, watch the landing gear".
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 10:59:31 No.1532777
>>1531254

If he's gonna push some more he's gonna ruin her intestines. I believe her bowels should already be ripped having this much of his cock inside her.
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 14:29:54 No.1532809
>>1532777

Furry Logic, or Otterverse [Addyverse?]

I just think if you're gonna have someone that big penetrate a partner that small, acknowledge it in some way, be it harsh or dark stuff like gore or blood, or more cartoony/fantasy stuff like belly bulges or cumflation. I know Sefeiren can do abdominal bulges & cum inflation, he's drawn it before. I'll be sorely disappointed if he doesn't do it in any way in this comic.
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Anonymous 2018/12/30 22:13:36 No.1532932
>>1531259
>No one knows what they do anymore
I know exactly what they are doing, their methods are primitive and not only that their website is broken. It's the issue of covering it up which is not a flawless option. I'd say more, but obviously I can't.
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Anonymous 2018/12/31 01:29:33 No.1532993
>>1532932
This is supposed to be encouraging? Doesn't matter if you know, if you're not gonna do a damn thing about it so we can finally not get destroyed for simple leaks. :/
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146 Anonymous 2019/01/03 12:04:42 No.1534468
File: photo_2018-12-29_20-18-09_u18chan.jpg - (159.87kb, 936x1200, photo_2018-12-29_20-18-09.jpg)
reupload
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Anonymous 2019/01/03 14:18:37 No.1534518
How is this thread missing pages before 146? They've been out long enough they're already up on e621 for crying out loud
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Anonymous 2019/01/03 15:42:59 No.1534532
>>1534518
I remember someone once said here a long time ago when Primeleap came out that Sef could never win and leakers would always leak.

But Honestly, it looks like we're the ones running out of steam to care. Sef gets paid big bucks to make this comic while we wonder every page why we bother. Did we spite him? With his income he's props long stopped caring except for an easy way to just see who gets banned next.

It just seems to me, that whoever said leakers always win, didn't consider the fact that Sef would make this comic no matter what cuz he's getting paid tons, and that leakers are working for free, and thus can stop caring in time.
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Anony 2019/01/04 00:42:35 No.1534684
Holy Batman people, Sefeiren is a she!
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Anonymous 2019/01/05 04:48:57 No.1535071
>>1532993
Fuck you, I already contributed a ton.
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Anonymous 2019/01/05 13:15:31 No.1535172
>>1535071

Then why the fuck did you stop? You're supposed to be used up like a dried prune for us ungrateful fucks till the end of days. /S

This is sarcasm btw, in truth I agree with you and honestly you should leave all these fuckers to rot.
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Anonymous 2019/01/05 18:15:31 No.1535248
>>1535071
You are either Sefeiren herself or a giant shill.
Either way you dont even try to hide it, do you? GTFO.
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Seith 2019/01/05 22:07:22 No.1535296
Yolo
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Anonymous 2019/01/05 23:50:37 No.1535322
It's clear that the days of getting leaks from this comic are over. Everyone just can't shut the fuck up when they find new places or methods and get banned instantly.
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 05:01:16 No.1535861
I find it hilarious that people think this is the only place things are leaked on the entire internet.
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 08:21:25 No.1535936
Guy who leaked last month, Ill do it again if people still care.
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 08:36:51 No.1535937
Nah forget it mate, this thread has gone full retard and it's time to let it die. No one of us gives enough of a shit about this comic anymore. Just let the free pages come on FA when they come.

Edited at 2019/01/07 08:37:45
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 09:54:37 No.1535970
It's sad that Sef gave up on the No Hyenas comic just to bask in the doubtful glory of this comic... I still think that No yenas could have been a great comic that deserved all the support.
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 11:42:30 No.1535995
>>1535936
People definately still care, probably salty and upset that people can't keep their mouths shut about leaks and keep telling everyone about them which results in the leaks getting stopped. If people just shut up, and keep themselves to themselves we wouldn't be in this mess. Once the leak happens, don't say a word

Edited at 2019/01/07 11:54:01
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 12:42:09 No.1536008
Then hows anyone supposed to know where the leaks are?
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 20:57:38 No.1536096
I miss times when sefeiren actualy drew Feral x Feral and kobolds. It was great. Iw ould be even support her if she would do something with her old projects. But now she decided to cash on Anthrofags and actual comics got worse.
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Anonymous 2019/01/07 21:35:16 No.1536107
>>1536008
How? Your not supposed to know were the leaks come from. If your a leaker and your leaking content, you one, don't say when you do it and two don't say how your doing it or where your getting it from. You keep all that stuff to yourself. If anyone else happens to find leaks elsewhere, guess what, you all also keep your mouths shut. What anon is saying is right. You can't say a word, and you especially can't posts links for everyone to see. If you do the leaks will just get removed and that'll be that. It's all meant to be as subtle as possible

Edited at 2019/01/07 21:35:48
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Anonymo 2019/01/07 23:09:37 No.1536127
For the latest page,
Devon rotates lying on his back.
Birb balances herself on dicc on top.
Majestic eagle is impaled but not knotted yet.

I will not be leaking the pages, only short teasers.
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Anonymous 2019/01/08 00:26:10 No.1536151
Would you be able to post like 2 at a time or is that too hard for you
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Anonymous 2019/01/08 01:11:35 No.1536162
>>1536151
Anon don't answer the question
And anon who asked the question, just wait and stop asking if he can and if he cannot
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Anonymous 2019/01/08 02:41:38 No.1536183
>>1536162
Been a while since the last page was leaked, Sef's sooner gonna release it for free than waiting on peps here. Honestly, y'all should just stop and let the free pages come, its not 8 months behind anymore, more like 1 month. Can you all like chill now?
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Anonymous 2019/01/08 05:25:37 No.1536271
https://boards.4chan.org/trash/thread/20476844#p20500336
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Anonymous 2019/01/09 02:55:22 No.1536743
>>1536271

We know boy, go back to asking when the next page is gonna be post.
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DRM INFO Anonymous 2019/01/10 02:33:32 No.1537121
File: wew_2_u18chan.gif - (5.11mb, 464x600, wew .gif)
Just a reminder since 99% of you seem incapable of scrolling up.

The DRM is NOT limited to obvious text watermarks. Here's a non-exhaustive list of the watermarks I know of:


* Hex code watermarks (the easy ones). Usually plastered all over the place and used in conjunction with other watermarks.

* Transparent outlines of shapes, using size and positional data to identify you.

* Dots and Dashes were considered by Vicar at one point. They'd contain data directly, similar to to the hex watermarks.

* Procedurally repositioned layers. Layers are slightly offset unique to your account ID.

The image in this post shows the difference between two user's images. As you can see, there's a lot more going on than hexadecimal watermark strings.

This is why people have given up leaking this comic. It's not worth the time, effort, or money, especially since Sef just stalls the fuck out of it for a steady income, so we're not really missing out on anything worthwhile anyway.
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Anonymous 2019/01/10 03:09:51 No.1537132
>>1537121
So you're saying that any leaker here is just completely outclassed and not as smart as they think and they should stop laughing at how primeleap will never work, because clearly they aren't putting in the effort to leak unless they just accept bans. Otherwise there is no way to leak and not be blanket banned, including credit cards, ip address, location, etc.
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Anonymous 2019/01/10 04:55:37 No.1537158
The trials and tribulations of delayed gratification.
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Anonymous 2019/01/10 07:02:59 No.1537188
>>1537132

Pretty much. People here don't understand how to read. They just think why people aren't posting, look at the image, and try to blur it with their made up methods and post it here saying "These IDs were easy to get rid of. You're all retarded." and then proceed to get banned.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. People need to forget about trying to skirt the DRM. It's not going to happen. I mean, it can, but nobody here is going to do it each and every week and the image is not going to look good at all once it's finished. It just won't happen.

What people need to understand is that when it comes to something so paranoid as this (which is borderline asylum paranoia), the best course of action is to just create suicide accounts each and every month and dump at the end of each month. You lose no money this way. There are ways to do this with different cards, so no need to worry about CC bans. You just need to figure out how to do it yourself. IP is easy to change, and system info is also very easy to change too, but you've got to figure that out on your own too. Do with this info as you please, but I wouldn't expect a bunch of horny people from third world countries to put any effort into trying.

Needless to say, there was a grateful anon who offered to do what I mentioned, but looks like he hasn't showed since november. Maybe he saw that people here managed to forget what he posted and tried to start anew with their own DRM breaking methods to the point where he lost hope. I wouldn't blame him. The people here are idiots.
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Anonymous 2019/01/10 08:30:11 No.1537254
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Anonymous 2019/01/10 08:32:52 No.1537255
Watch, next they'll prevent new accounts from accessing images for a month because they clearly give 0 shits about their users and fans.
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Anonymous 2019/01/11 00:20:22 No.1537501
I'm honestly boggled by how many people are so keen to leak this comic still. The most recent drop sef did went to page 146. At this rate we'll get maybe one page before the next 4 drop in 2 weeks.
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Anonymous 2019/01/11 09:12:57 No.1537673
>>1537121

It is for this reason that those jews who started using DRM earlier have long since come to the idea that a new account starts from the first pages of the comic. And not only pays money for all the early pages to get new ... but should do it slowly, moving forward at a speed of 1 month of content during the month time. Such schemes will make suicide accounts senseless and expensive. Primeleap sooner or later take these ideas from who your know ....
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Gg BBGryph 2019/01/11 16:37:46 No.1537774
Best part about coming to The Basement is to read the petty arguments as if they mean something, then reading that a mod did a wipe only for the same degenerate convos to start back an hour later. If you're gonna complain about how shit someone is don't be talking about it whilst on dog porn; it's counter intuitive.

Also there's a cool new chatroom called Discussion. It's under the general tab. Pretty cool. I hear you can get free internet karma if you use it.
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Anonymous 2019/01/12 08:33:59 No.1538036
>>1537501

I don't think this was about the comic anymore XD
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Anonymous 2019/01/12 10:28:46 No.1538052
If the lack of new pages for a month hasn't given that away then pffffft.
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Anonymous 2019/01/12 11:11:59 No.1538062
The new page is more of the last.
A display of tenderness between Dev and Addy while he continues to grope that ass.
Addy is close but Dev, as a gentledog, waits for her to adjust.
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Anonymous 2019/01/14 05:28:34 No.1538838
good lords, I thought people bitched at Jasonafex and his one comic Servants of the Serpent more then this one, but this is ridiculous
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Anonymous 2019/01/14 13:47:39 No.1538983
Indeed, I'm content to wait for the comic on free access since it's barely behind patron content anyway.

I mostly pop in every now and then for the same reason you go to the zoo or circus; to watch.
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Chatin 2019/01/16 06:45:02 No.1539695
>>1537774
To which I'm keeping up with now... I'm not going to attempt to clean this entire thread, but moving forward it'll be purged >_>

Unless I get bored one day and decide to clean this passed APRIL of last year. -not likely-
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Anonymous 2019/01/16 08:11:17 No.1539721
>>1539695
It would be beyond awesome if you could just purge this thread and have it start from posts of this year. It's extremely long and beyond dumb to load this monster thread for 3 mins just to see if someone posted a page or not.
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Chatin 2019/01/16 19:27:30 No.1539940
>>1539721
Well I already suggested creating a new thread, so... -shrug-
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Anonymous 2019/01/19 12:03:57 No.1540873
Wtf, why is only free pages getting posted now? I don't come on this site to get the public pages that's already on Fa.
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someone 2019/01/20 13:30:14 No.1541302
ON patreon, there are 153 pages
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Anonymous 2019/01/20 21:43:52 No.1541425
>>1540873
While this may not the complete story it all boils down to DRM. People posted things from Patreon, watermarks get put on the photos and trace it back to them, and they get banned.
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Anonymous 2019/01/22 05:41:07 No.1542165
I don't give a fuck, just get me pages.

Edited at 2019/01/25 00:29:08
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Anonymous 2019/01/22 15:33:19 No.1542368
>>1542165
You helped make my decision. Hell naw, no pages for you.
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Anonymous 2019/01/22 21:38:30 No.1542509
>>1542368
Serves you right, you selfish dipshit
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Anonymous 2019/01/24 08:17:53 No.1543170
1542615>>
No pictures for you.

In the latest picture,
Addy continues to moan while Devon intensifies his thrusts, hugging her tightly against his chest.
As they begin to rock the couch, they knock off a VHS casette stack on the right of it.
Devon is real close.
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Anonymous 2019/01/24 15:09:07 No.1543268
btw, did that new thread get killed?
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Anonymous 2019/01/24 15:58:16 No.1543280
>>1543268
Sure looks like it, because I can't find it in the Feral board anymore.
It was completely redundant anyways tbh. Especially considering it didn't actually leak anything to begin with.
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Anonymous 2019/01/25 00:00:07 No.1543498
Indeed, claiming free pages reposted from FA to be leaks, so useless.
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Anonymous 2019/01/26 09:43:54 No.1544158
>>1543170
that's page 153, not 149, right?
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Anonymous 2019/01/26 11:29:33 No.1544182
No idea where paid is up to since no one bloody leaks now.
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:04:45 No.1544631
there a glitch in prime leap that you can some pages clear but small and with a lock symbol (clicking the page wont work you just look at it) so check before they fix it
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:13:37 No.1544633
>>1544631
Edit or delete your post immediantly dude!! What the fuck is wrong with you?!!
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:17:09 No.1544634
>>1543498
Well you got a better idea genius?
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:23:34 No.1544635
>>1544631
Serious question, do you lack vital brain cells? Do you think at all?
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:25:42 No.1544637
>>1544631
It's because of idiots like yourself that any leak we find gets taken away, what part of "don't say anything" and "keep to yourself" do you not fucking understand?
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:28:06 No.1544640
>>1544635
why is it that we have idiots like him here? There's always that dumbass that ruins it for everyone
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:30:10 No.1544642
>>1544640
Cause people like him lack basic brain cells
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:32:23 No.1544644
>>1544642
You can also add doesn't fucking think to the mix as well
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Anonymous 2019/01/27 19:34:24 No.1544645
Come on guys no leaks yet? What's going on?
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 01:28:36 No.1544729
The frequency of these posts looks like one guy talking to himself to stir up trouble....could it be?

Sef?
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 01:39:48 No.1544738
>>1544729
Highly doubt it, from what I understand an anon foolishly made something regarding leaks to this comic and other artists public when he should have just shut his mouth and said nothing, he likely spammed posted to hide the comment and for the anon to edit his post into something else so lurkers can't see what he wrote otherwise action would taken make leaks even harder
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 02:08:40 No.1544764
File: 1548637452.sefeiren_nhnf_pg149f_u18chan.jpg - (1.13mb, 936x1200, 1548637452.sefeiren_nhnf_pg149f.jpg)
Pg 149
Again, leaking is pointless now.
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 03:54:41 No.1544796
The age of leaks to 'stick it to the man' is over. Y'all only get free pages that lag behind, so deal with it.
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 04:23:09 No.1544801
Another filler page.........
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 08:27:35 No.1544859
>>1544764
the hell is going on with his hand in the bottom left panel?
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 13:03:23 No.1544882
File: P150_Processed_vectorized_u18chan.png - (1.23mb, 937x1200, P150_Processed_vectorized.png)
>>1544764
O ye of little faith.
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 13:03:25 No.1544883
File: P151_Processed_vectorized_u18chan.png - (1.22mb, 937x1200, P151_Processed_vectorized.png)
>>1544882
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 16:09:21 No.1544929
Did you really just leak before he nutted man...YOU SHOULD HAVE WAITED YOU FOOL! Fuck, please tell me you did something to these pages to avoid the ban.

Edited at 2019/01/28 16:10:08
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 16:26:25 No.1544938
>>1544929
It's the end of the month,it could be a suicide account. Anyway, thanks for the leaks!
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Anonymous 2019/01/28 21:27:02 No.1545023
>>1544938
Nope. He's a dumbass by the filename and image quality. Processed? Vectorized? What is he trying to do? Blur the barcodes? Ok, cool. Now how is a blur going to fix the unique positions and size on text and body parts, the slight rotation of some boxes and the border and overall page itself, and transparent shapes? Yeah.

Deserves his incoming ban for his effortless clean. He would have less of a chance of getting banned if he were to post the full rez unaltered image.
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 01:39:00 No.1545073
>>1545023
It's funny how every time a leak gets posted, someone like you comes along to just talk mad shit and be overly aggressive towards them. Almost like you're intentionally trying to piss off the leaker and get them to stop posting. And if that's not the case... how about you just fuck off for once? Just once in your miserable life, fuck off.
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 05:06:39 No.1545128
>>1545073

Right? It's really curious how every time a page is leaked someone comes in and acts like an ass specifically to the person/persons that posted the leak, glad I'm not the only one that notice that
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 06:36:30 No.1545144
>>1545073
Y'all don't need to speculate too hard, its all Sef, always has been.
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 15:30:53 No.1545210
>>1545073
>>1545128
>>1545144

No, I'm the same guy who has been posting about the original barcode blur method since PL started, the same one for calling out Sef for being a liar and money grubbing jew after she set the price to $5 right before sex, and the same one who noticed moving text and transparent shapes on the images.

I'm just here to put it bluntly. Nobody, and I mean nobody is going to avoid a ban with their own method because they don't know how to read. They don't understand that the barcodes are nothing but a honey pot and there's much more going on, yet every month or 2, somebody comes up with a new way to blur the barcodes and they get banned because of the other stuff and nobody leaks for another month or two after that.

I've been saying it for a few months now. It's not possible to wipe the pages clean in a quick manner that somebody will do every week, and it's not possible to have the final image look anywhere near good. If somebody wants to leak, suicide accounts posting at the end of each month are the only option. Do it right, and it will only cost you $5 a month which is the price of a normal sub.
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 15:53:08 No.1545212
>>1545210
Wasn't the real issue the fact that account suicide was basically one per person, not per month, because they would be unable to make new accounts since Primeleap takes more information about you than you think?

We're talking IPs, credit cards, location, fucking loads of hidden shit you can't change short of moving, buying new PCs and changing your name and bank each time. Who the fuck has time for that?
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 15:55:14 No.1545213
Those lads on yiff Party talk about Primeleap for months but never do shit. All they know is that they know who you are no matter what you do upon returning.
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Anonymous 2019/01/29 19:58:14 No.1545292
>>1545212
Yes, you can't just use the same info, but there are ways around it, such as IP changing is free and changing computer info is free too. How much the site takes from you is unknown and if they start grabbing hardware info (which I'm sure isn't even possible), then that's a breach of privacy and can possibly be grounds for a lawsuit (lel, I'm not that anon who was talking about doing that with no info). But that's nothing that can't be avoided (I'm pretty sure on this).

That anon probably didn't even change IPs or cleared his cookies. You can call me out on being full of shit on this if you want, but I'd rather not post how to do it lest it gets blocked (this I'm not sure is possible). You'll have to find out on your own.

With payment, there is a way around it. Again, call me out on being full of shit if you want, but I'd still rather not post what it is and how to do it lest it gets blocked too (would they sacrifice thousands of dollars to do that, though?).

In the end, no, I don't believe it's possible to ban 1 person forever. It's 2019 and everybody is privacy paranoid, and the result of that is all these different ways to have fake info (for free) on the internet so you can't be tracked by people. It's a little bit of work, probably a couple of hours at most, but doing it once a month is nowhere near as bad as having to worry about cleaning images once a week. It's a war of attrition.

There can't be a way to prevent one person from leaking forever and the only thing they can do if one decides to do a suicide method is cripple their own services to plug one leak.
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Anonymous 2019/01/30 06:21:01 No.1545437
>>1545292

Ok, I get what you are saying, I just think you have no need to be so agresive about it man, If you are the one shitting on every leak then I honestly can't help but feel there is something else going on with you.
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Anonymous 2019/01/30 16:20:08 No.1545572
>>1545437
No, I believe this was actually my first time doing so only because of the file names. If the dude just intentionally suicided posting everything (he's missing 2 pages) with no changes to the image, I wouldn't pay no mind because that's the smartest way to go about it. Somebody coming up each couple of months thinking it's all about the barcodes on the image and coming up with their own way to blur the page is what irks me
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Anonymous 2019/01/30 17:34:38 No.1545594
What a bunch of useless fucking twats.
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Anonymous 2019/01/31 00:45:42 No.1545711
>>1545572
Nailed right on the head! I've been watching this thread too and exactly as you say, some massive doorknob thinks hes top shit every few weeks and posts his amazing no watermarks pages, because every single fucker has no idea that it goes much deeper than that.

No doubt that last guy is banned, just hiding his bloody embarrassment, otherwise he would have posted those last 2 pages by now.
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Anonymous 2019/02/01 07:09:37 No.1546255
The cum looks like dirty toilet water and it’s so off putting. Why these colors, why?
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Anonymous 2019/02/01 09:06:05 No.1546299
Can't wait for this comic to end so that they can hopefully work on something actually worth a damn.
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Anonymous 2019/02/04 07:46:38 No.1547530
Looks like the comic stopped this week, leaking must have triggered them off it, should of held your dick and waited for the whole comic but you just can't wait can you?
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Anonymous 2019/02/04 19:33:09 No.1547701
>>1547530

Read before you speak, please. They only do 4 updates a month. There were 5 thursday's last month. They said they were going to spend last week prepping for the rest of the pages and thumbnails.

A pitiful attempt to skirt a ban that only included 2 out of 4 pages is not going to make them cry and not release pages for a week.
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Anonymous 2019/02/04 22:49:07 No.1547768
If you havn't figured this shit out already: Artist or its little shill is here to shit on everybody who leaks Sefeiren comic. While I fully suport Sef for her work i cant support her while she leaves her old, great projects to appeal towards wider audiences. Anyway Sef if you read this: leaking comics will happen and in ways you have no ideas of and you will never find out. As long as leaks don't appear on popular websites its hardly going to affect your income and you will not win in reducing amount of leaks by a significant margin if you already use DRM website, so calm the fuck down.
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Anonymous 2019/02/05 01:39:57 No.1547806
But if the DRM works In Keeping it off big sites and only available in Tiny holes for meager amounts of people that weren't going to pay anyway, then its already a win.
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Anonymous 2019/02/05 19:42:51 No.1547988
>>1537121

I kinda feel like I'm watching Naruto, waiting for the next 30 filler episodes before a real episode happens for 5 episodes then we go right back to 30+ filler. xD
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Anonymous 2019/02/05 22:03:17 No.1548023
>>1547988
Don't fret. Next Patreon page will begin the fun early for supporters. Addy is now just begging for the whole package in the latest picture.
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Anonymous 2019/02/05 23:27:57 No.1548059
>>1548023
This is lies; the sex is so far very uninteresting..

My cards got enough credit till April; i'll site rip at the end of it..
Remember kids to always buy a foreign travel card at the airport so you can say gg Sef :)
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Anonymous 2019/02/08 10:46:13 No.1548835
Okay, not trying to be anoying or overly ignorant, but, why can't they use tor to download the pages? I AM really curious, if they could trace you even through tor, it would be really scary.
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Sef's CuntBoi 2019/02/09 06:58:55 No.1549232
Because they're fucking stupid, lol.
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Anonymous 2019/02/09 07:41:19 No.1549238
>>1548835

Because the patreon gets the page but with small changes for each patreon, scroll up for a gif explaning that
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Anonymous 2019/02/10 06:56:01 No.1549876
>>1548059
Just a bit left for free supporters, hang on.
In the latest picture, Devon actually knots Addy in the last 3 panels. The union is attained.
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Anonymous 2019/02/10 17:13:54 No.1550210
I hope this comic ends soon and Sef goes back to making dragon comics. Iwould actualy pay for that.
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Anonymous 2019/02/11 23:33:58 No.1550820
a scalie comic in general would be better then this trash.. I love their dragons would be interesting to see kobolds or snakes or something like that though..
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 15:12:03 No.1551110
File: noarmsonowls1_u18chan.jpg - (74.7kb, 624x800, noarmsonowls1.jpg)
comic summary by blitzdrachin
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 15:12:05 No.1551111
File: noarmsonowls2_u18chan.jpg - (133.93kb, 624x800, noarmsonowls2.jpg)
>>1551110
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 15:12:07 No.1551112
File: noarmsonowls3_u18chan.jpg - (116.38kb, 624x800, noarmsonowls3.jpg)
>>1551110
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 15:12:08 No.1551113
File: noarmsonowls4_u18chan.jpg - (104.26kb, 624x800, noarmsonowls4.jpg)
>>1551110
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 15:12:10 No.1551114
File: noarmsonowls5_u18chan.jpg - (132.9kb, 624x800, noarmsonowls5.jpg)
>>1551110
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 16:19:31 No.1551128
This both mocks Sef, but advertises for Blitz...Shit.
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Anonymous 2019/02/12 16:45:53 No.1551133
It both mocks the average furry fandom and Sef.
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Anonymous 2019/02/13 03:11:12 No.1551318
>>1551114
I don't know if hating blitz because her patreon and primeleap shit, or loving her because her shitpost content.
Thanks anon for the mixed feelings >:(
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Anonymous 2019/02/13 06:28:13 No.1551373
>>1551318
not only is it possible, it's also perfectly reasonable to disagree with the way someone conducts their business or life, while simultaneously enjoying the work they produce. Every other thread on this fucking website can't wrap their minds around that for some reason.
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Anonymous 2019/02/13 20:58:41 No.1551547
>>1551318
I think this is what everybody feels about Blitz tbh. Her business practices are now fucking awful with is in bright contrast with how cool she used to be sharing almost everything in lower res. But everybody loves her shitposts and art she actualy shares.
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Anonymous 2019/02/13 21:01:46 No.1551549
Can this comic actualy end so we can return to world with Sef started to create in FM? FM>shit>this comic, tbh.
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Anonymous 2019/02/15 16:32:30 No.1552234
So is this thread dead now? Leaks don't seem to be happening anymore and now it's just reposts of free release pages.
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Anonymous 2019/02/15 18:51:49 No.1552271
Back in 2016, I wanted to bust a nut. I was excited that something different was being produced.

Its 2019 now. The anticipation ended long ago. Now we are getting the free released images of the "good stuff" and its just to long to stay interested. sure the art looks alright but, did she really expect is to eagerly wait that long to blow a load to a bird?

memes don't even last that long.
Thanks but no thanks sef, this shows other artists exactly what NOT to do.
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Anonymous 2019/02/16 01:39:49 No.1552383
Since is about Sef... Does someone can share Familly Matters bonus comic?
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Anonymous 2019/02/16 04:38:18 No.1552474
>>1552271

WTF!? Since 2016!? How does anyone even care about this comic at this point?
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 05:11:14 No.1552841
I guess the DRM won eh. The free pagas have caught up to the leaked content.

I hope the artists soon realise they gain nothing from doing this. Less exposure and those who didn't pay before won't suddenly pay now.
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 08:11:06 No.1552865
>>1552474
The sadder part is, I cant even think of anymore ways to make more joke panels out of the stuff.

I have failed you guys.
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 09:14:41 No.1552873
>>1552841
The peps in this thread looking back thought Primeleap was a big laugh and that it will never work.

Well shit, there aint even any irony, this is just sad.
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 09:40:01 No.1552879
>>1552841
It's not the DRM. I literally lost any interest in it: it stopped being funny when the bird banging actually arrived.
I think I found it more amusing to read this thread, actually.
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 09:47:21 No.1552880
>>1552879

*taps head* Comic won't get leaked if nobody reads it.

Best form of DRM is to just make people not interested in it.
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Anonymous 2019/02/17 10:08:00 No.1552885
The unfortunate part is that by using images, in reality there is no DRM, especially since the way around it is through volume. Metadata in an image is void due to simply copying the image in something as simple as Paint to a blank, new space and saving it yourself, so actual data is done. All that's left is the actual colors per pixel in the image, which I alluded to being solved through volume. You can find the differences in two "identical" images through, aptly named, any Difference function, Photoshop has it as a bog standard effect. If you use multiple images from different users, you could either just average all the images together through simply halving opacity on each higher layer (lowest layer 100%, one above 50%, 25%...) which could prove ineffective if large changes are made, or actually use the visible highlights the Difference exposes to shift around the image itself, essentially making it appear to be someone else's image that didn't even contribute towards the effort. There would also be no loss or degradation as well, as anything moved could have edges brushed away smoothly and any holes could be filled by the other images. All that would take is simply patience, and by "patience" I mean about 8 minutes (excluding the time of individuals sending their images to a single editor, or the editor stepping through multiple accounts to download) a week since Photoshop is actually doing the lifting.
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Ugandan Knuckles 2019/02/18 06:44:46 No.1553191
Do you know da wae?
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Anonymous 2019/02/19 19:09:27 No.1553816
This is getting so sad. Comic is so bad at this point nobody even wants to pirate it. I guess since 99% of furries is retarded it doesnt make any difference for Sef, as those idiots will fanboy every comic their favorte artist makes.
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Anonymous 2019/02/20 02:22:45 No.1554036
Your Jedi mind trick of trying to get people to post new pages shall not work, dear sir.
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Anonymous 2019/02/20 03:40:29 No.1554063
I'm sure its just Sef edging more idiots to 'show off they can' before they get smashed by the ban hammer.

Don't be morons people, don't take this bait. We need people to just wait until its all over before leaking can be done again, dont fuck this up.
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Anonymous 2019/02/21 19:44:22 No.1554774
No, bitch.
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Anonymous 2019/02/22 18:23:57 No.1555125
>>1554036
No, I literally don't want people to pirate this comic. It's not worth hetting banned over something like this. Comic is actually shit. Art is great but birds is not my fetish (its hardly anybody's fetish) and its came down to "just sex". FM wasn't great in this as well, but: 1) Dragons are my fetish 2) Characters had at least SOME personalities 3) I hoped it to be part of some bigger world.
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Anonymous 2019/02/23 12:44:34 No.1555343
Just focus on leaking Kayla-na's stuff
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Anonymous 2019/02/23 14:35:27 No.1555359
>>1555343
You an idiot? She is the same fucking problem, you leak, you get banned, you're fucked. Haven't seen a single leak from that bitch since October.
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Anonymous 2019/02/25 01:39:26 No.1555899
Doesn't mean her stuff can't be leaked
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Anonymous 2019/02/25 03:30:50 No.1555927
>>1555899
They can, but no one does cuz they dont wanna be banned, and those who want it leaked ain't supporting it clearly.

Dig up that old kayla thread on here and you can see the moment primeleap was switched to, everyone laughed hard saying it will never work, and then immediately in the coming weeks, the leaks went dry. So why does having an actual consequence to leaking now work?

We can leak, but shit, who wants to for ungrateful anons with a guaranteed ban that using a VPN won't even work around? It's not foolproof, but its existence means 99% of casual leakers are deterred, and only the truly hateful on the artist will put in the work to leak, which judging but the lack of it for around 5 months now, doesn't seem to have anyone caring.

Edited at 2019/02/25 03:34:10
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Anonymous 2019/02/25 03:39:09 No.1555932
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152
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Anonymous 2019/02/25 14:29:20 No.1556070
Another FREE page...What has this thread come to...
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Anonymous 2019/02/25 22:40:20 No.1556213
>>1544882
Low-key, Addy looks like she's got some ass in this page. Thick birb.
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Anonymous 2019/02/26 12:59:29 No.1556462
File: 153_3_u18chan.png - (4.92mb, 2674x3426, 153.png)
Last page I got before money ran out on a prepaid card.
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Anonymous 2019/02/27 03:57:50 No.1556698
>>1556462
You wouldn't happen to have the full res version of some of the other free pages that were posted, would you?
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Anonymous 2019/02/28 03:05:01 No.1557254
>>1556070
It's pretty clear that there's really no real people left in this thread and only leachers are left here. It's possibly the worst thread on this site due to how entitled the leachers are like you.

Take a look at the rest of the threads on this site. Leaks or no, they're meant to be a place to discuss the comics (like The Internship comics). Since everybody has already left this thread like 6 months ago because it was clear that this comic is a pile of trash and not even worth waiting a week to see what happens next because of the hippie slow burn but no character building shit, there's nobody left to discuss the comic and all that there is left are shitposting and leaches.

Trust me on this. The whole knotting and cumshot was honestly not worth the price nor the wait. It's not hot and visually looks nasty. Only really hot page was when Devon was about to bust a load in Addy's mouth. It hasn't really been good since then.
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Anonymous 2019/02/28 06:57:03 No.1557311
>>1557254
I was lurking to see a greedy artist get what they deserve, but you flaming homosexuals let them win by giving up.
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Anonymous 2019/02/28 17:14:07 No.1557408
>>1557311
No, it's the same reason why nobody leaks danza's stuff or aaron's stuff. Ugly work and content that's not worth paying for. If it was something like FM, then yeah, people would have more interest, but for a comic with absolutely no character development or plot wasting pretty much 4 years to finally get to devon cumming inside with sloppy shit all over the screen, it's not worth spending time on it.

Besides, it's not hard to make new accounts each month to leak a months worth of content. It's just not worth it to do it. It's not worth giving money to do it.
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Anonymous 2019/02/28 20:21:58 No.1557545
I feel like people who complain about the comic being agonizingly long don't know what a "slow burn" is, which is what Sef was going for with this comic.
"Slow burns" by their nature are agonizing to read through as is. In writing it's very much a "will they won't they" thing, slow burns are borderline intolerable, you wait and wait and yet the main pair still haven't banged or anything like that. It's supposed to take fucking forever to get to the good stuff, otherwise if it was any faster it'd be a regular ol' burn.
It's like in literature, comparing a main pair that gets together and get to the good stuff in under 5k words to a main pair that say... doesn't even so much as talk to each other until 80k words in (No, seriously, I've seen a story that did that).
I've read a series that doesn't have the pair involving the main protagonist/PoV actually show affection to each other until 4 parts later, over 60+ chapters in in total, who knows how many words there are in wordcount for that, there will be a bit of pining noticed from that point but it doesn't show to be mutual until later, and that main pair doesn't actually officially get together until near the end of the 5th part of the arc. You think that sounds like absolute torture for those in it for the main pair, exactly, that's the point, and I loved it.

The fact that people have been waiting for years, and yet still coming back despite their anger and thinking it's bullshit and going "FUCK THE BIRB ALREADY", only to have to wait more before the actual action comes in, and yet people keep coming back anyways hoping THE THING happens is just how it's supposed to do with you. The comic was deemed a "slow burn" from the very start in it's own way, there was "the good stuff" but not the kind people were hoping for off the bat, the wait for the dick to go in the vag was agonizing, hell, it was an agonizing wait to even see a first kiss. And even after THAT, when we were expecting Addy to get the dick at that point, it didn't happen. And then people were like "Maybe after the eating out scene?" Nah. Maybe after the fingering? Nope. Oh so after the afterglow? NOPE, bitch you THOUGHT! We didn't see the main pair actually bang until much, much later.

I'd say the comic is doing its job. People may not like it, and think it's bullshit, but once you read other stuff labeled "slow-burn" that actually follows through with that label, you know from the get-go you're in it for the long haul when you see it again.

Edited at 2019/02/28 20:47:57
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 01:18:18 No.1557624
>>1557408
Not worth to just leakers you mean, cuz that income number on the patreons seems pretty damn high to me.

Whatever, Sef's laughing all the way to the bank, we're donzo here.
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 01:31:15 No.1557630
>>1557545
The thing with slow burn books is that you take it at your own pace and there's usually something going on, or at least there are scenes that add development. You can go through a what, 200k book in about a week or 2 if you have nothing else to do and spend time each day reading it.

For a comic on the other hand, unless you're pumping out pages, it's not going to work. We're basically 4 years into development so far with 1 page a week with the rare extra page week. Some pages were nothing but 5 words spoken and you had to wait another week to find out what happens, sometimes 2 if sef decides that a week will be spent making thumbnails (she did that at the start of february). That's not slow burn. That's forgot to turn the stove on and it's the sun coming through the window slowly cooking your food.

If you want to compare it to another supposed slow burn comic, study partners ch 3 by thunderous erections took 180 pages for the mains to actually do anything sexual to each other and the scene actually lasted more than just a few pages and any downtime scenes had more than 5 words that developed the scene and characters. Only took 10 months to get there and the art style was good.

On this end, it's been almost 4 years and we've barely got any development for these characters other than "I like you, but am afraid because people would think it's bad" over 156 pages. A slow burn would've been fine if there were any pages coming out consistently. It's like those DBZ episodes that had nothing but talking for 5 weeks until something actually happened. If there were episodes 3 times a week, then it would've been fine. Similarly with this comic. If it was updated more than once a week, then it would've been better to follow. It's like reading a single page from a book once a week until you finished it. You're going to get sick of it quick even if you're in a scene with a lot going on quickly.
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 01:40:21 No.1557631
>>1557624
Well yeah, that's what I meant. It's not worth it for leakers. As for the other patrons, it's mostly fans and maybe people who don't understand sunk costs, which is basically the idea of "If I already spent so much money here, I might as well keep it in until it's finished" even if they're not getting what they want. Trust me, I understand that. I did that to a couple of patreons (and still do) just because I liked them at the start, but after a while didn't even use what I was receiving. It can be hard sometimes to stop pledging if you've been with them for almost a year or longer.
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 22:48:33 No.1557991
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Disappointing, unsubbed, so here you go.
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 22:48:35 No.1557992
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>>1557991
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 22:48:37 No.1557993
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>>1557991
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 22:48:39 No.1557994
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>>1557991
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 23:17:28 No.1557998
I don't get the issue. Seems hot to me.

Edited at 2019/03/01 23:20:40
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Anonymous 2019/03/01 23:58:33 No.1558004
Two years and he didn't even cum buckets, very disappointed indeed.
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 00:04:40 No.1558007
It doesn't even look like he came at all tbh

Oh, and the face in panel 2 of the last page looks like a 10 year old drew it
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 06:00:35 No.1558111
>>1557992
>>1557993
2 years for an underwhelming cumshot...
He better cum again, that's way too little.
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Pages? Furmaniac 2019/03/02 08:03:39 No.1558134
Pages 150, 151, 152 in HR?
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 14:25:11 No.1558287
>>1558111
i just want this to be followed by like 10 pages of them fucking wildly throughout the weeks like the compilation of them dating over the past year way back on page 99 ~ 104 or whatever which honestly we didn't even need since there was heavy context from the beginning that these two have been living and working together for years.
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 17:03:00 No.1558334
Sounds more like you guys are too used to seeing furries in furry art throwing out unrealistically sized cumshots tbh.
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 18:19:44 No.1558354
>>1558334
Compared to all of Sef's other works that included cumshots and cream pies, this is underwhelming. He should've shot more because of foreplay too.
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Anonymous 2019/03/02 23:40:05 No.1558672
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>>1557994
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Anonymous 2019/03/05 11:26:58 No.1559806
Been waiting for si long that the only way that wasnt underwhrlming is if sef had released half life 3 along with devons knot. What i am saying is: the Pagés aren't inherently bad, they're just late.
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Anonymous 2019/03/06 05:45:16 No.1560222
>>1559806
Better late than never, eh?
At least they were some golden years.
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Kajex Surnahm 2019/03/07 02:45:02 No.1560583
The cumshot seems fine, it's easy to imagine that he's filled the birb thoroughly and the entire cumshot is being kept in place by his knot.

But yeah, it took too long to get here, and a little more work could have gone into developing their relationship- this comic has serious, possibly deliberate pacing issues.

... Still! Better than CATastrophe. Not saying much, but credit where it's due. :P
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Anonymous 2019/03/07 06:34:18 No.1560637
>>1560583
Better in the sense Sef wont dox your details on a personal website if you leak like Faf does?

I admit, that's good integrity on Sef's Part, and tbh, i dont think anyone can become as low and scum like FaF, even Blitz has standards.
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Anonymous 2019/03/07 19:03:51 No.1560860
>>1560637
Raccoon21/21CenturyRaccoon has been going on a doxxing power trip with his Patreon leakers too. All it does is make him look like an insecure asshole.
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Anonymous 2019/03/08 07:49:37 No.1561195
>>1560860
It's things like this that make me think we're hating too much on the wrong people and its Faf and Racoon21 who deserve the real shitting on.
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Anonymous 2019/03/08 09:50:20 No.1561220
>>1560637
FAF never actually doxed anyone tho. He claimed the person behind the "Anonymous" nick was a videogame character. That's what made it so funny in the first place.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 07:11:15 No.1561623
>>1561220

nevertheless, there have been no leaks in his projects for several years. The scheme he came up with is brutally effective.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 11:33:19 No.1561672
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>>1561623
>The scheme he came up with is brutally effective.

So brutally effective that I had no idea who they were. It may seem illogical, but the paywall/leaker ecosystem is an effective method of promoting content. That 1day-1week delay that exists between the moment something goes up on patreon vs. YP gets people to subscribe out of interest, and keeps active threads on chan sites like this, which keeps an artist's content relevant in the community. Faf has done such a good job at hiding their strongest IP behind a paywall that I thought "CATastrophe" was an abandoned project, and frankly had no idea who Faf was until I searched them on e621. There's such a thing as having a paywall that's too effective. The argument can be made that creators like Meesh or Zaush do so well because their content is "better", but I think they do as well as they do because they spent years developing a fan base before they paywalled. The problem with creators like Sef and Faf being such nazis about their content is that they're not fostering a sustainable fan base, and in some cases, like in the case of raccoon21, they're actually ostracizing their fans by doxxing their leakers based on circumstantial evidence.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 12:35:59 No.1561684
>>1561672
Faf does collective punishment thou, a leak means pages are delayed a few more weeks and months. Anyone not truely invested and prone to leaking are not gonna hand over more money per week to remain for leaking and instead just say "Fuck this guy, I'm keeping my cash"

Also helps that no one gives a shit about the comics he's making, sef only gets so much attention because despite what you all say, somehow there is a lot of interest in her work.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 13:57:24 No.1561710
there is no collective punishment, little dumbass.
from the very beginning of his project, he said that he would do the number of pages, which he considers proportional to the amount collected. if he collects 1000, he makes 10 pages. If he collects 2000, there are 20 pages. On each "average page" there are two characters and if you compare it with the price of typical commissions of this or even lower level - its price is on average $ 50 per character. That is significantly lower than the rates for work most artists, even a much smaller level. Of course, if his income falls, he reduces the number of pages generated. But this is not a collective punishment, it is a distribution of damage.

And it looks quite logical. Especially against the background of the fact that if funding grows - each of the subscribers gets more pages for the same price. For example, now that he has coped with attacks, paid subscribers no longer receive 5-10 pages per month, as was the case previously. Now more than a year, he creates 25 pages per month. And the first sponsors - see about 500 pages of comics. During the year he created 3-4 times more than the previous 3 years.
If you use dry math - he began to give people 4-5 times more content for the previous price of $ 3. Just because the number of people who pay for it has increased.

And it is quite understandable that none of the people is interested in making leaks - after all, this would lead to the fact that some stupid and greedy people have left, hoping that the leaks will be frequent and never stop. In this case, its funding would fall again and the remaining people would receive instead of 25 pages, for example, 20 or even less. Maybe some of them would leave after that and the funding would drop even more. But it would look more like "people punished themselves" than "the artist punished someone collectively." Show me any idiot who would work harder, longer and better, if he had his salary cut?

As for the price increase - in the past year, for its new sponsors, the price actually rose and instead of 3, 5 and 10 dollars it began to demand 6, 9 and 14. That is, for the initial level the price doubled, for the average - by 80% and for the maximum - 40%. At the same time - 25 pages per month. Who the hell is doing more at the same level of quality?
the amount of content has increased 5 times relative to the first months of this comic. but the price has increased only 2 times. Yeah, call this guy greedy, damn it. But after all, everyone had the opportunity to come there earlier and before the end of the project to get all 25 pages a month for the price of $ 3, right?

Looking at this ridiculous racket in the hen house, these idiotic gossip and thousands of even more idiotic accusations against this guy, I increasingly understand his position, which in the beginning seemed to me excessively cruel.

You are a bunch of ridiculous losers who are trying to convince themselves that "they didn’t want this stupid comic book too much" and at the same time continue to whine for someone to make a leak for you.

and yes, I am one of the subscribers and I see about 420 pages. You can call me "shill" or something like that, or decide that I am personally Faf, if this makes it easier for you. I see here quite a lot of nonsense and all this ridiculous clucking causes nothing but endless contempt.

However, to learn how to be useful members of society and make your life and the lives of others better - you swarm in your own shit, hate all the asses from which falls the shit that you think tastier. And you are endlessly afraid that someone like faf will illuminate your personality with a flashlight beam. It is quite understandable why you sit down this most sin. It is not clear why, instead of working to improve your miserable life, you are trying to make life worse for everyone around you.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 16:16:32 No.1561733
>>1561710
Hey dumbass.
More pages != better comic.
As large chunks of this thread complaining about the blatant padding would attest to.
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 18:16:09 No.1561788
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>>1561684
>sef only gets so much attention because despite what you all say, somehow there is a lot of interest in her work.

Sefeiren had a decent sized fan base before she started her Patreon and she stood a chance to benefit from that. Her patron count was rising steadily up until around late Aug 2018 when she joined primeleap and that all stopped. As one might expect with the added inconvenience, she saw a sudden percipitous drop in patrons, but you'd think that would level off after a few months. That was not the case though. The moment she joined primeleap she killed her growth, and now she's actively losing patreons. A full 180. Her decision to erect a second wall behind her patreon paywall paused the leaks, unintentionally crippling the prospect of enticing new fans, and more damagingly, it alienated her existing fanbase.

Edited at 2019/03/09 18:16:47
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Anonymous 2019/03/09 21:33:44 No.1561851
>>1561788

Well that and the comic is hot fucking garbage.
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Anonymous 2019/03/10 00:26:57 No.1561904
>>1561710
hey, no one cares about FAF. This thread is not even about him. Go cry somewhere else.
Also, stop acting like you're better than the others, you happen to be here just as anyone else, thus you are exactly the same. If you want to pretend to be different stop visiting this site.
>>1561788
She will eventually stabilize, just look at the graph. If she's happy with that, let it be. There is not any law that forces you to maximize your profits, and in fact many people just perform way under their maximum possible gain. I don't see why we should bother about her in particular.
If you really want to improve something, I would suggest you to redirect your energy and math towards something actually useful, like your local fishing economy or whatever.

>>1561851
It is. It sadly is.
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Anonymous 2019/03/10 01:21:25 No.1561923
>>1561904
>She will eventually stabilize
You'd think 6 billing cycles would be enough. I figured she'd stabilize 2 or 3 billing cycles in, but she's lost about 16% of her patrons since then (1062 / 891). And let's not for get that she was actually growing before primeleap.
> If she's happy with that, let it be.
True. It's a shame though, I actually like this comic (even the pacing), and I want more people to see it.
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Anonymous 2019/03/10 22:22:16 No.1562356
new page is out on the dreaded primeleap site
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Anonymous 2019/03/12 22:47:51 No.1563080
>>1561788

Fun fact: Pirating stuff actually helps an artist. Yes, this is strange but its true. DRM hurts product. People are supporting artists they like and want to help. There is shitload of great free porn, it takes spacial kind of retard (but i guess furry fandom have a lot of those) to pay for a comic thats eventually will be released for free or even for one that will not be as in this case it will be leaked sooner or later.
People who pirate stuff are also fans, as they put effort in sharing paywalled content. Well, Sef is cool person unlike as 21st or Blitz and im sure she will understand this.
lso i hope next comics will return to Family Maters world.
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Anonymous 2019/03/13 06:03:47 No.1563235
>>1563080

Fun fact:
Before moving to Primeleap she was getting around $1000-$1300, now she may be getting around $4000-$4400.

Quality over quantity. She got better fans now, instead of having an autistic fandom.

You can still convincing yourselves that ''hurr durr, piracy is good for artists'' , but no, it doesn't, specially when the artist releases content.

Do you think she would still using Primeleap if she had a decrease on her monthly income? use your brain lads, is not that hard.
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Anonymous 2019/03/13 12:11:49 No.1563326
>>1563235
Is that because of or despite Primeleap? There's no way of knowing.
If anything personally, I've found out about more artists browsing yiff.party's recently added than I did ever going through the likes of browsing tumblr (rip) or furaffinitiy's non existent searcher.
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Anonymous 2019/03/13 23:34:49 No.1563568
>>1563235
She was around 1300 I believe before primeleap. Switching to that caused minimal changes to her patrons. Maybe about 100 or so and slowed down new people coming in a tiny bit. The real punch to her patron count was the sudden increase to $5 in october I believe. It was originally going to be put up to $5 after NHNF, but she made up a sob story and said she needed to go to $5 or else she wouldn't be able to continue. That slowed down the amount of patrons considerably coming in and caused for people to drop her because they can't afford it unlike $1. Don't think she cares that much though, even if she did lose $1200 a month according to the patron tracker.
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Anonymous 2019/03/14 10:36:33 No.1563849
>>1563235
may
fun fact: your personal theories are based on nothing of actual relevance.
Here's a $428,000 304 page european report done properly, with statistics and actual data (instead of what you personally think a single person "may" be making but you're not really sure) that shows that piracy has no impact whatsoever on sales (except for AAA movies, and this is not hollywood).
They conclude, and I quote "In general, the results do not show robust statistical evidence of displacement of sales by online copyright infringements. That does not necessarily mean that piracy has no effect but only that the statistical analysis does not prove with sufficient reliability that there is an effect."
Which, in mathematical terms, means no. Just like vaccines and their "possible" dangers.

https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf

You may argue that moving to a more expensive, less user-friendly site like primeleap may not affect the sales either, but I leave it on you to prove it empirically.
But I hope this is enough to end the conversation about piracy, since the only argument more powerful than a statistical analysis based on a wide array of data is just an even bigger, more significant analysis, and I sincerely doubt you are holding to that.
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Anonymous 2019/03/15 22:41:40 No.1564465
page 159 is out where 158
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Anonymous 2019/03/16 10:44:15 No.1564640
We're all pretty done with the leaks man, comic sucks. Stop asking.
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Anonymous 2019/03/16 18:41:51 No.1564748
Just wait until the end of the month.
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Anonymous 2019/03/19 06:05:55 No.1565755
was trying to remember why i dont watch sef on fa n then i saw all the shit she draws for kuntla-na n now i remember y i cum here for pages
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Anonymous 2019/03/20 00:29:54 No.1566162
>>1565755
Every single person that's had personal interaction with Kayla-Na has become worse for it. She's like a disease that kills human decency.
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Anonymous 2019/03/22 01:28:09 No.1566903
>>1566162
Totally Agree.
I remember getting Kayla-Na to do a commission for me and it was horrible. I couldn't complain about it because in her FA Notes it said something like this "If you don't like what you see I will only do one edit of the commission if you don't like anything after that I have the right to not finish it or post it up." Around those lines, so I had to just go with what she did cos I know for a damn well fact I wasn't gonna get my money back =/
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Anonymous 2019/03/22 02:59:22 No.1566950
page 155 and 156 are public
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Anonymous 2019/03/22 06:31:19 No.1567049
>>1566903

Can we see the commission?
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Anonymous 2019/03/24 04:43:49 No.1567633
So what's going on with this thread now, is there any acual leaking or is it just an announcement page for when free pages get released elsewhere? What's the point of this thread even...
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Anonymous 2019/03/24 10:32:54 No.1567711
>>1567049
that's a clever way for asking for an anon's data XD
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Anonymous 2019/03/29 00:07:50 No.1569319
page 160 is on prime leap it the end of the month
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Anonymous 2019/03/29 02:12:04 No.1569348
How does one know there is even someone not banned yet to leak?
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Anonymous 2019/03/30 04:27:14 No.1569652
>>1569348
Because it's not possible to permanently ban somebody from using the site if said person isn't using the same payment details and IP and cache and cookies.
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Anonymous 2019/03/30 05:19:56 No.1569673
>>1569652
I think they collect way more than that. But I'm more worried about if any one gives a shit anymore, the guy already nutted, what else is there to see?
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Anonymous 2019/04/02 11:27:55 No.1570983
So who wants to get banned still month? Or is the last guy coming back?

Or we all pussying out?
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Anonymous 2019/04/03 02:48:46 No.1571288
page 157 is out to the public
I cant believe there pussying out
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Anonymous 2019/04/03 06:13:47 No.1571329
https://youtu.be/sFsxJP0I3ok?t=190 so I found the inspiration for this comic~
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Anonymous 2019/04/03 10:12:22 No.1571393
>>1175165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjXb7U9N2nI
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Anonymous 2019/04/03 16:26:53 No.1571480
>>1571329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IOMN8lgVaI actual insperation
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Anonymous 2019/04/05 01:17:05 No.1572037
Anyone actually gonna leak or we just post YouTube videos like idiots now?

Letting Sef win hard here...
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Anonymous 2019/04/05 03:43:46 No.1572090
158 is out to the public
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Anonymous 2019/04/05 16:41:09 No.1572277
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>>1557994
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Anonymous 2019/04/05 22:40:51 No.1572401
>>1572277
It's counterproductive to post the low res pages from her FA cause it'll get confused with the higher res ones from Prime Leap. We already has a couple high res pages that got skipped over cause someone saw the FA ones posted.
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Anonymous 2019/04/06 00:19:08 No.1572430
>>1572401
Nah, no one was ever planning to leak pages anymore. People said wait till end of month but it's been two of those.

Face it people, primeleap got us beat.
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Anonymous 2019/04/08 02:06:25 No.1573303
>>1572430
I'd say the jury is still out on that one. This comic became almost un-followably slow and worthless right about the time Sef switched to PrimeLeap. Several folks took the bullet to figure out how it worked by posting pages, but the nobody had the will to continue.

Let's see what happens when another comic that people haven't already burned-out on ends up on the site. By layering together 3 or 4 versions, it seemed like people figured out the variables PrimeLeap used to modify individual instances. Someone will eventually create an algorithm that uses 3 or 4 input images to create an averaged image with some variable jitter to obscure the sources. Anything PrimeLeap can do to create the images can be un-done with a handful of source images.

This comic just didn't motivate anyone quite enough to try. That doesn't mean that PrimeLeap is un-crackable.
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Anonymous 2019/04/09 16:57:46 No.1573949
The months are really passing by on leaking this one eh?

Primeleap may not be impassable, but it sure stopped our lazy asses.
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Anonymous 2019/04/09 19:41:30 No.1574022
>>1573949
You realize it's been _7 months_ since that switch was made. In that 7 months there's been about 30 pages, and it's still the SAME GODDAMNED SCENE that started about the time of the primeleap switch.

Anyone paying $5 a month for this shit needs to have their head examined. There's easily 2 dozen comics with equal or better artwork quality that have started, climaxed and completed in just that time.

PL is going to have a defeat period eventually but sure as shit the $$ investment that would be necessary isn't worth it on this comic. Anybody that can't wait for the free updates on this one definitely needs to fap less.
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Anonymous 2019/04/09 19:56:54 No.1574026
Like all piracy all DRM did was drive it underground. Still easy to get if you belong to an invite-only group. Public moochers are the only ones who lost out. Also amazing that their Patreon has like 800 subscribers. If they're all paying $5/mo that's like $48,000 a year that they're raking in on this. That has to be the most profitable and over-valued artwork ever created, since Andy Warhol!!!!!
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Anonymous 2019/04/09 20:05:19 No.1574029
>>1574026
Holy shitballs! 2.5 years that makes this folio worth like USD $120,000. No way that's right or else the feral furry community suddenly has money to burn! Even if thats only right for the last 6 months though that's still like USD $750 a page whic is still pretty frickin unbelievable.

Not sure whether to be horrified or impressed.
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 02:16:44 No.1574116
>>1574026
I rather not feed more funds into Sef's arms. But as you said I am a public moocher here and I don't know any invite places that have this shit.

Since it's clear this thread is done and dusted, can you point toward where these invite places are?
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 02:37:25 No.1574126
>>1572430
Nah, nobody just wants to leak it since it's not worth it for anybody to go through the effort of making new credentials and signatures each month. It only stopped people who don't want to get banned or don't know how to get an entirely clean slate that's not suspicious looking.

>>1573303
Trying to come up with a way to bypass the visual DRM, especially one that requires multiple people to do it, isn't going to work. Ignore the DRM, focus on just suiciding with entirely clean slates. That's the only way it'll even work. Though it's honestly not worth it for this comic at all, so just save your time.

>>1574029
>>1574026

It was $1 for until like October 2018. Still, some people gave more than $1.
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 03:43:19 No.1574183
>>1574126
Whatever it is, looks like were finished here.

All that 'indomitable' spirit to stick it to Sef, really runs away when it suddenly becomes too hard to bypass huh? Human nature, fight something and then realise it requires effort so fuck it.

Edited at 2019/04/10 03:43:34
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 19:00:55 No.1574563
>>1574183
That's so weird! It's almost like you're shilling for PrimeLeap or something. o_0

Hilarious amount of drama being unleashed over technology to protect drawings of animals fucking. The real world is laughing bigly.

Edited at 2019/04/10 19:04:46
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 19:16:48 No.1574568
>>1574126

since this thread really is dead as far as the comic is concerned i don't feel that bad about hijacking it to talk about visual drm!!! there's a whole field of research on this and primeleap is using a pretty elementary method for doing pre-shared secrets-based steganography.

there's both generic and specific attacks already out there against this kind of data hiding. one relatively interesting paper on the topic is here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/sec.1583

that specific method wouldn't likely defeat primeleap, which moves entire geometries based on the user information, and this attack is based on finding statistically hidden information. but other attacks based on positioning and transforms would work quite well. it's very likely that fewer than 5 primeleap users would be needed to upload samples for a couple of weeks in order to parameterize and defeat it for any given comic template.

never underestimate the boredom or ingenuity of a horny engineer with time on his hands. primeleap is a major change for the furry community but its not even kindergarten level steganography as far as current research is concerned.
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Anonymous 2019/04/10 22:38:42 No.1574619
Thing is, it's just not worth it right now. There's no significant content behind it except for Sef's work. I wish her all the luck and profit in the world, in the same way that I wish EA and Epic all the luck and profit in the world.

That is to say, right up until the point where their price gets high enough, and their DRM gets intrusive enough, that it effectively starts criminalizing a recreational activity in effect or fact.

Remember that Denuvo was "uncrackable" DRM... right up until it wasn't. PrimeLeap will instantly become the victim of its own success if it ever sees broad use beyond a few niche artists.

[Edit - also, awesome post above about steganography. There's also a fun Python project for hiding images inside of other images that anybody can play with here: https://github.com/kelvins/steganography There's also a lot of projects involving de-watermarking and detecting statistical differences in images, which WOULD be relevant to a direct attack on PrimeLeap!]

Edited at 2019/04/10 22:43:22
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Anonymous 2019/04/12 07:06:10 No.1575126
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>>1572277
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Anonymous 2019/04/12 07:42:01 No.1575137
>>1575126

Plot twist: she died from internal injuries caused by overstreching her cloaca and bowels being pierced by the baculum.
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Anonymous 2019/04/14 11:03:37 No.1576294
"I stuffed the bird; I had to roast it"

if he doesn't make some wise ass jokes when she wakes up, and then say that to her; I'll be disappointed
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Anonymous 2019/04/14 12:01:24 No.1576300
>>1575137
She got some good dick though, and that's what matters here.
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Anonymous 2019/04/18 10:35:51 No.1578203
I've been monitoring the tumblr patreon numbers a bit - because fuck Sef for that DRM shit and posting on patreon while hosting their content somewhere else entirely. I had pledged on patreon until they put their blueballfest behind that DRM wall (PrimeLeap). Before PL, they had over 1300 patreons, which looked like they were constantly growing. During the first few months of PL, the pledge count completely stagnated. Then it slowly dwindled. Now it's just a bit over 800.

I never bothered with PL, but I'm assuming it has its own pay methods. Sef still has just over 1700 "members" there. I don't know what exactly that means, I just hope they don't pay money.

Edited at 2019/04/18 10:44:37
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Anonymous 2019/04/18 13:15:35 No.1578234
>>1578203
Doubt it was all PL. You said the number stayed the same when PL started, but only a while after did the number drop.

This is because of the minimum price going from $1 to $5, causing a drop, not the usage of PL, despite how hard you want to believe it affects patreons, it doesn't, but increased price? Oh yeah baby, money talks and thus the drop.

1300 to 800 seems like a ton thou, but if it was 1300 at $1, what's 800 patreons at minimum of $5 each?

Sef is fucking racking funds in now, and PL didn't do shit to stop it. Obligatory Fuck Sef and fuck this comic, glad no one leaks, shows how worthless it is now, outside of the brainlets sucking his cock.

Edited at 2019/04/18 13:17:32
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Anonymous 2019/04/19 18:55:19 No.1578768
>>1578234
https://graphtreon.com/creator/FriskyFerals
While it is true that sef experienced a pretty big dip with the switch to $5 being the minimum tier, it is also true that sef's patreon has seen a lack of growth since the switch, quite the contrary even. Going by the graph we have seen a level of decline that has been steady since the huge initial dip. Whatever the exact reason for this contraction is, it is clear that sef's current trajectory with how frisky ferals is being managed is not sustainable in its current form.
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Anonymous 2019/04/21 08:22:59 No.1579559
File: 6f68b3a75f908e64a700abdb5d824f35_u18chan.jpg - (992.98kb, 936x1200, 6f68b3a75f908e64a700abdb5d824f35.jpg)
>>1175112
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Anonymous 2019/04/21 14:06:03 No.1579616
Is this a free pages reposting thread now? :/
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Anonymous 2019/04/21 23:04:39 No.1579855
>>1579616
I mean, at least here you can trash talk the comic without looking like an aspie in front of normal people
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Anonymous 2019/04/24 23:52:49 No.1581226
First time on this site. Ive read this comic before and was wondering why everyone is so spergy here? This thread is incredible.
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Anonymous 2019/04/26 05:33:39 No.1581663
File: 13a5a9dd20208f1489a1cc4c4f6f0d21_u18chan.jpg - (1.04mb, 936x1200, 13a5a9dd20208f1489a1cc4c4f6f0d21.jpg)
>>1579616
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:00:36 No.1582095
File: NoHarmNoFowl-158_5C911E798E16_u18chan.png - (4.88mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 158_5C911E798E16.png)
Leakers gonna leak
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:00:39 No.1582096
File: NoHarmNoFowl-159_54112C64ADF4_u18chan.png - (5.77mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 159_54112C64ADF4.png)
>>1582095
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:00:45 No.1582097
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>>1582095
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:00:54 No.1582098
File: NoHarmNoFowl-161_0B418C6CAFF6_u18chan.png - (6.43mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 161_0B418C6CAFF6.png)
>>1582095
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:00:56 No.1582099
File: NoHarmNoFowl-162_57018E44A552_u18chan.png - (6.08mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 162_57018E44A552.png)
>>1582095
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:06:47 No.1582101
File: NoHarmNoFowl-163_6C71067AAE12_u18chan.png - (4.45mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 163_6C71067AAE12.png)
165 brings us up to date for the end of April. Lost interest in this comic now, so someone else will have to do May.
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:06:49 No.1582102
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>>1582101
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 16:06:51 No.1582103
File: NoHarmNoFowl-165_06B1254185E0_u18chan.png - (5.2mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 165_06B1254185E0.png)
>>1582101
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 17:21:40 No.1582127
>>1582101
Thank you for your service. God speed, soldier!
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 18:08:49 No.1582141
Damn, seems like something juicy was about to begin, you couldn't eat another $5 month man?

And how come it's always just people bailing who leak? Is there not fight left to have a sustainable way of doing so? Can't let Sef fucking win after all this, we're letting him steamroll us now. :/
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 20:16:43 No.1582206
>>1582141
i thought the issue was that every page had unique watermarks to identify whoever leaked the comic.
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 21:41:11 No.1582213
I assume its going to be a "montage", or just gets skipped.
Or maybe it just ends.
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 22:13:18 No.1582222
>>1582141
If people keep "waiting for something to happen" every time then nothing will ever get posted. Besides, I've posted pages on more than one occasion now and I'd rather spend money on something else.
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Anonymous 2019/04/27 22:27:04 No.1582227
The issue is that it's impossible (at least for now) to leak and keep your account from being banned. That's the only reason people leak other content since they pledge once and don't have to worry about it.

To even leak this comic is to make new suicides each month with a clean slate each time. This requires effort each and every time you make a new account. If the comic was more good, like something along the lines of the first one she did, people might put in effort to do it, but with the way the comic is now, nobody wants to waste time and energy on a comic that is slower and longer and will continue even after one piece is finished. In other words, it's not worth it because the comic literally sucks and all the pages we have now are back to the same panel for 4 panels with 1 word being spoken.

Edited at 2019/04/27 23:51:51
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 01:32:41 No.1582272
Hmm, and I thought people leaked Sefs stuff just cuz she deserved it. But even hatred is fleeting when too much effort is required.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 03:37:51 No.1582320
>>1582227
Plus seems pretty dumb to get wasting $5 per page per week. But if you wait 6 months to leak all of it, its still a lose because most of the pages by then are released.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 06:32:53 No.1582388
Anyone else way more curious about that apparently ostracized male birb/female mammal couple? How do they do it when he's got no dick?
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 07:55:06 No.1582401
It's also kind of funny how people think it's a war, like us against them, but thing is that the people saying it's a war don't do anything and just keep on thinking it's about watermarked IDs.

At first it was trying to find out how to do it, but once it got bumped up to $5 and the sex scene dropped only for it to be really lack luster after the blowjob, people stopped trying because it was too expensive and the stuff people have been waiting for turned out to be rather lack luster, so there's really 0 reason to put in any effort to leak other than spite, which most people moved on from now.

To be perfectly honest, the talent on PL is rather ok at best. Only worthwhile person on there is cosmic life about 50% of the time depending on the species and pose, but they only use it for high resolution versions since the low res gets posted publicly the same day.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 11:11:21 No.1582432
This primeleap thing is only going to grow it seems, what happens when your favorite artists you actually give a shit about it get on there? Will you put in the effort to do something about it finally?

Any artist with a patreon is at risk of doing this if they keep getting their shit leaked all the time, so its probably only a matter of time.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 17:23:48 No.1582511
>>1582432
I'd like to remain optimistic.

Depending on how it's used (and really only CL uses it correctly), PL stunts the growth of anybody using it. They'll either steadily lose patrons or hover around the amount they had when the went up to PL. It's honestly an impediment for growth. Take a look at some popular creators who get their stuff leaked the same hour they post. People like Jackaloo, Kuroodod, and Zaush. Their numbers either steadily increase or greatly increase. Hell, even people like danza who still uses emailing tactics is steadily growing. The point? Patrons there for the porn (and trust me, it's a large portion of everybody's community) don't want to jump through hoops to get their porn. PL is a third party site that collects god knows what and the account is still on the site when you decide not to pledge anymore. People don't want that because it's relatively shady. The horny patron was porn delivered to them. They don't want to go anywhere to pick it up.

Primeleap was made for some creators to combat yiff.party. Much to their unknowing, yiff.party is well into the process of dying because of uncaring admin and because of it being archaic. It's infested with cam whores now and it doesn't have the feature to update entries. Creators can literally update their YP page after posting a proxy submission with thumbnails and proxy links and then go to edit their submission with the real info and it'll never get updated on YP. They can also send out mail through patreon itself and YP will never see it. They can also use dicksword channels connected to their patreon and YP will never be able to get access to it.

Leaks will happen whether or not you put fancy water marks onto your images. If you want to be 100% protected from YP's dead scraper, you just need to put in the minimalist amount of effort into defending yourself, whether by using the patreon mail system or using your dicksword. Your stuff will probably still be leaked depending on how popular your stuff is, but would you rather have it posted publicly that can search for patreons or on an obscure board that has threads you need to sift through and can be deleted at any moment?

Case in point, your stuff will be leaked regardless of what you do if there is somebody out there who gives a damn about what you post. Protecting your stuff from being automatically scrapped is as simple as tying a shoe. Dicksword and emails provide the same benefit as PL does and it's free to boot. Don't stunt your growth because some 20 people look at your stuff for free on an anonymous board, especially if you're a large creator. Use something that's more user friendly so you can still grow and not have to worry about a scraper.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 17:59:56 No.1582517
Can't believe you can't say dicksword because its apprently blocked?

But more interesting to hear the yiff party is going down the shitter. Patreon fixes one security thing and apparently it's now too hard to bother, why do people keep donating to that site? Just pay the artists, cheaper at this point now.
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Anonymous 2019/04/28 20:06:05 No.1582556
>>1582517

People want to hold out hope that the site will be back to what it used to be, but honestly it won't. People would probably say that they're worried about shared files, but honestly, nobody even uses it. Also some people use the site as an archive. There's some patrons that have closed their patreons but their stuff is still up on the site. There's also patreons who have deleted some of their stuff and you can't even get the stuff legitly anymore, so YP is the only place to get it since it's archived.

But as it stands, most of the people on YP are equivalent to the people in this thread who thinks it's an us against them war and that we all need to put our minds together to figure out how to bypass watermarks so nobody gets banned. It's not going to happen to say the least. Too much effort and those people can't coordinate tying a shoe. As it stands, YP is just an archiving site for old patreon content that's on life support.
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 04:20:33 No.1584227
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>>1582103
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 08:28:43 No.1584320
>>1584227
Didn't expect another page this quickly. Thanks for sharing.
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 09:16:32 No.1584328
Uh, looks like his final page too, zero effort to scrub. Guess he's out.
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 11:58:44 No.1584353
File: PatPL_New_02_u18chan.png - (465.23kb, 1094x499, PatPL_New_02.png)
Can somebody leak the Kindle and Thistle artwork please? Or it's impossible too?

Edited at 2019/05/04 09:29:48
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 14:49:20 No.1584401
>>1584328
you're a fool if you think scrubbing does anything
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Anonymous 2019/05/03 15:00:59 No.1584406
>>1582103
The sex was so good that she's craving more, lol
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Anonymous 2019/05/04 11:35:53 No.1584736
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>>1584353
I think this is one of the ones you mean, but I didn't save the other.
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Anonymous 2019/05/05 20:14:50 No.1585472
he streaming a new page or something hurry before it gone

Edited at 2019/05/05 20:15:11
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Anonymous 2019/05/05 21:05:32 No.1585483
nah scrubbing works you just suck at it.. your only getting busted cause you dont know what your doing. your getting traced and then post it here where they check all too often whos leaking their shit cause ya know they have to when they draw out some trash comic for such a long time so it doesnt hurt their cash flow while they milk their fanbase
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Anonymous 2019/05/05 22:25:37 No.1585519
>>1585483
>nah scrubbing works you just suck at it.. your only getting busted cause you dont know what your doing. your getting traced and then post it here where they check all too often whos leaking their shit cause ya know they have to when they draw out some trash comic for such a long time so it doesnt hurt their cash flow while they milk their fanbase
could the bait be any juicier?
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What the artist might be doing now Anonymous 2019/05/06 19:17:56 No.1585867
File: A111BD56-F032-44AB-8C6C-53ED1064BDE5_u18chan.gif - (700.18kb, 500x213, A111BD56-F032-44AB-8C6C-53ED1064BDE5.gif)
..................did you have enough coffee sir
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Anonymous 2019/05/15 02:34:24 No.1589320
new page 167 out on prime leap
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Anonymous 2019/05/18 13:30:58 No.1591117
page 168 is out
(the promo banner is a shocker)
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Anonymous 2019/05/20 09:07:27 No.1591858
>>1584227
Holy shit, what is wrong with his face in the second grid?
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Anonymous 2019/05/25 05:22:44 No.1593560
That vibrator is going right up his ass
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Dig Bick 2019/05/26 13:10:00 No.1593978
Can anyone upload the new pages
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Anonymous 2019/05/26 18:33:51 No.1594069
This comic may be uninteresting, but I'm not going to leak the last pages cuz I wanna save for the next comics that are acually hopefully good. So no. Fuck this comic.
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Anonymous 2019/05/26 21:54:58 No.1594121
Fingers crossed we get a better comic next.. because if they vote for another "drawn out" comic it's going to be more of the same trash we got here.. I love their work but seriously this comic was downright terrible. They need to jus stick with their dragons or somethin.
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 04:16:36 No.1594211
Reading out the whole comic when its already completed, it was a good read.

The problem is the whole making of, 4 years in the making is awful.

Just shorter comics that get to smut in a timely manner going forward is really all Sef needs to do to improve on this.

Edited at 2019/05/27 04:17:24
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 07:16:07 No.1594249
File: VoteWinner_Kindle-PoseD__D3318F54B422_u18chan.png - (8.79mb, 2754x4000, Vote Winner_ Kindle - Pose D__D3318F54B422.png)
kindle
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 07:19:54 No.1594250
File: NoHarmNoFowl-167_05E10F5CBE92_u18chan.png - (5.61mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 167_05E10F5CBE92.png)
167
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 07:21:52 No.1594251
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168
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 07:23:42 No.1594253
File: NoHarmNoFowl-169_8151AF7CBE94_u18chan.png - (5.7mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 169_8151AF7CBE94.png)
169
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 07:44:09 No.1594258
haha damn already banned in less than 20 minutes. must be a bot or something no way the artist is on this thread 24/7
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 11:45:01 No.1594318
But wait, how did you know you was banned??

Dude, you might also be a bot. You leaked the build up but didn't wait for the pounding to leak. Why man?? Unless you has more accounts or found the secret bypass?

Edited at 2019/05/27 13:03:59
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 14:46:12 No.1594354
That's a whole month of material right there. It takes an unbelievably long time for Sef to do stuff.
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 15:13:11 No.1594359
>>1594253
Damn, that escalated quickly, she getting into kinky stuff already xD
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 17:35:31 No.1594399
>>1594359
Laughs in Sef.

MY boy, you know that's just the beginning of what surely will be a long drawn out talk scene spanning 20 pages right?
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 18:50:50 No.1594418
Vicar did say they have code running on other websites. Said it before, but I wouldn't be surprised if the admins allowed code injection or if they just have a bot monitoring the thread for each image post
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 22:46:27 No.1594601
he streaming a new page on picarto
hurry before it ends
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 22:59:37 No.1594615
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 23:00:13 No.1594616
>>1594601

Edited at 2019/05/27 23:00:45
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Anonymous 2019/05/27 23:01:23 No.1594617
dude just stop making a fool of yourself, no one here is dumb to do that, and common sense would tell why no one is saying shit about the streams here
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Anonymous 2019/05/28 02:26:49 No.1594701
Now this is just sad man. Even the stream is encoded per viewer wtf.
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Anonymous 2019/05/28 04:42:19 No.1594728
I received this message on patreon which sounds quite automated.

"Thank you for your interest in No Harm No Fowl. Unfortunately you've stolen our content and freely distributed it online. Because of this you have been removed from our Patreon and PrimeLeap club."

as for why, I can't stand paywalling and had 5 bucks to spare. so why not help out a bunch of people
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Anonymous 2019/05/28 21:36:54 No.1594904
>>1594728

Not all heroes wear capes
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Anonymous 2019/05/28 23:29:08 No.1594962
This is what I got after posting:

Thanks for your interest in No Harm No Fowl. Unfortunately it looks like you've broken our ToS. We have been notified by PrimeLeap of your redistribution of one of our images. I removed your access to my Patreon account and PrimeLeap. Since your last payment was declined, no refund will be issued. On a personal note, it's a shame as under our upcoming long term supporter exclusive projects, you would have fallen under Tier 2.
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Anonymous 2019/05/29 00:42:37 No.1594986
So it is a bot.
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Anonymous 2019/05/29 02:40:57 No.1595020
Seems like their plan is to start releasing content to people who have been subscribed for a certain amount of time, to further discourage leakers and people paying for a single month. More anti-consumer nonsense but at this point, does it even matter? People already seem pretty tapped out over this comic, I'm not sure they have the energy to play this game with any future content. Will probably just go the way of Blitzdrachin and Kayla-Na. People just stop caring.
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Anonymous 2019/05/29 06:48:22 No.1595105
And if people stop caring to leak, then the artists win.
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Anonymous 2019/05/29 07:55:32 No.1595133
I used to be a supporter till this comic came up. After about the 20th page I kinda said fuck this and walked. Very glad I did. I don't see them keeping alot of fanbase if they keep drawing shit like this. Poor story telling, good art, alot come for the porn but this had barily any.
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Anonymous 2019/06/04 09:57:23 No.1598080
>>1595133
Nah, art, story and all that stuff was good I reckon.

All that killed it was the pacing, you can't do this shit once a week for a 300 page comic, like wtf, its 2019 and this shit started in 2015!!
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Anonymous 2019/06/05 14:32:58 No.1598505
>>1595105

Not... really?

Leaking is generally a gauge of interest. Most Patreon artists who have their art leaked are the ones who still have lots and lots of patrons and make good money from the site. The less patrons they have the harder it is to find leaks because fewer people are interested in their work and in spreading it.

Box office flops generally don't have many seeds on torrent sites. Same thing here... declining rates of piracy are likely an indication of declining interest.
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Anonymous 2019/06/05 23:15:53 No.1598633
art? granted per the usual was damn good. Story? hah yeah no, half baked and pretty all over the place they prolonged the hell out of this one and milked it for what it was worth while they could which fucked with any sort of story telling pretty bad. Then ya like you said... multiple years for 300 pages. Still hoping the next comic is actually worth a damn. This one was terrible.
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Anonymous 2019/06/06 01:03:38 No.1598685
For the sake of Comparison, the 2019 edition of The Watchmen clocks in at 416 pages. A porn comic going on this long is absolutely insane, never mind a furry porn comic that gets released at a rate of one page per week.
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Anonymous 2019/06/09 00:24:20 No.1599827
170 is out on primeleap
(The promo banner show BDSM)
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 02:08:31 No.1601992
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sorry quality is so bad it's all I can find.. at least it's something
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 03:31:27 No.1602045
I assume you didn't scrub the page then? We lost another one boys.
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 07:44:37 No.1602139
High res 170 and 171 will be posted on here tomorrow. I figured it out~~ :) very clever watermarking
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 08:36:03 No.1602150
Before your head gets too big, I'ma gonna guess you think its only watermarking, and have not followed the convo in this thread at all.

If you get banned because you think its only 'clever watermarking' then that's all on you.
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 15:55:36 No.1602259
>>1602139
You need pages from at least two different accounts to make one clean one in the original quality.

There is a lot of photoshop work that has to be done. It takes hours.

If you haven't had to chop up and re-draw entire sections of each page to obfuscate the DRM techniques, then hold your horses on posting those pages.

I'm still not totally convinced that even perfectly editing away all the watermarks is enough. I think that there is a "Digimarc" being employed covering the entire image which would mean re-sampling the whole page is the only way to get rid of it. Photoshop filters aren't enough.
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 17:46:02 No.1602281
>>1602259

You're correct. More than Photoshop is needed to make it "clean". A friend and I have been playing with image processing algorithms based on this work:

https://www.laserfocusworld.com/software-accessories/software/article/16557537/imageprocessing-algorithm-isolates-micro-movements-inside-macro-fullmotion-video

It turns out that PrimeLeap and Sef are putting a ton of work/time into trying to make these images copy-proof. They're moving entire layers within the images. Speech bubble positioning, shape size & position of highlights in the eyes and noses, pixel-sized positioning differences in comic panels and positioning of the characters therein.

But we've proven that it's not hack-proof. Unfortunately it just requires more input than 2 subscriptions + the much-later-delivered free version. My guess is that it would require somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 random samples to isolate all of the changes and average them out.

The "good" news is that because this is all line art, creating convincing averages is darned easy once you've isolated the variables. Once you frame-together the input samples into a video-like loop, the "moving objects" that get detected by algorithms like the one above are pixel-perfect. It can then put the speech bubbles, highlights and other artifacts into effectively random positions anywhere within the domain of the input set.

The "watermarks" and other crap, which I think are red herrings to throw off the suckers who think they can just erase them and be fine, are easily spotted and just eliminated when you see them on a difference map.

With an input size of 2 (+free), it makes convincingly high-res output pages. The only challenge is that sometimes if the 2 versions have the speech bubbles in very-different positions, you end up with "gaps" where there's not enough data to fill in the missing part of the page convincingly. A larger input sample set would fix this too.

This has been a crazy low-priority side project. More of an academic exercise to stick a thumb in the eye of PrimeLeap, than any desire to perfect it. But we're casually looking for a few other known furs to join the effort, and then I suppose we'll eventually have a full-scale test by posting some "hacked" pages here, and seeing if anybody gets banned! ;3
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 18:04:18 No.1602293
>>1602259
Also, "Digimarc" watermarking can be easily removed if you don't mind some loss in color fidelity. If you view the image differences in a HSV or HSL space, the luminance differences (which is how Digimarc, specifically, encodes watermarks) become really obvious as "noise" between multiple images.

One solution is to resample the image, as previously suggested. Basically, just swapping back-and-forth between 24-bit color and 8-bit color a whole bunch of times. For good measure, you can diddle with the brightness, contrast and saturation between switches. This will eventually degrade image quality. But, again, for line-art, who cares? A wall being slightly off-blue-black instead of dark-indigo isn't exactly a big deal, like it could be in high-res photography.

There is SOMETHING of this type going on in PrimeLeap. Because when you view channel differences, there IS a lot of that kind of noise. If you scramble it directly, it can make the output image look a bit pixelated. But you don't need to completely scramble it. Just "smear" it so that the embedded values become, effectively, random. Voila... no way to extract a Digimarc-like watermark anymore.

But I guess we'll eventually find out if I'm wrong! If someone gets banned, it just means we start looking deeper. ;3
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 22:55:28 No.1602434
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170

alright guys here we are! and yes all of you that commented on how there aren't just watermarks are very much so right. but, I was able to find at least 5 completely unique watermarks which was surprising and clever imo

I'm not sure what they use to create them, but they're geometric circle and line patterns as well as some numbers. comparing them to other downloads of the same comic page each one is entirely unique in pattern and location per download

I'll update you all if I'm banned but fingers crossed! also sorry for the grain, if I do get banned I'll absolutely upload the original files here
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Anonymous 2019/06/14 23:00:58 No.1602438
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171
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 05:29:52 No.1602559
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>>1602434
Can you point out any examples of such watermarks in other images in this thread? This kinds of software is very interesting. There must be some kind of algorithm that surfs the web looking for these images since previous leakers had been banned in a very short period, and yet the watermarks must be added in somehow in that only a robot or a trained eye would find them.

This seems to imply two things. They (FriskyFerals) value their gravy train of slow art dumps so highly that any leak is detrimental to their business model (because by this point its not at all a product of passion) that they developed a software that both implants and detects these watermarks and matches them to the user who downloaded them, or more likely, there is a SERVICE that does this for artists that they can pay for, which goes to show how far the fandom has fallen if people are willing to pay for that so that their art does not get leaked, despite it being a lot like piracy in that most people who pirate it aren't going to pay for it either way. This is utterly detestable that artists would put themselves on the same level as Hollywood or triple-A games where they put software or other items in their files to root out pirates from harmless jokes like guns only shooting chickens, to DRM, all the way to viruses and monitoring file sharing torrent sites and sending letters to your ISP. Eventually your "friendly furry artist" who posts their quirky opinions on twitter and draws shark penis will have a service that monitors these websites and sends a group of armed mercenaries in murrsuits to drown you in your own toilet.

Even worse is that this shows the level that "art" in the fandom has been industrialized. Many artists can pump out YCH auctions for hundreds and even thousands. Other artists like FF here just churn out a comic and milk it for as long as they can. The sex is far apart and the exposition is a three season HBO series, and yet they receive so much acclaim for their work. I find this disgusting as both an artist and a patron of the arts, that they would take a medium that is commonly used to both express emotion and capture the senses and turn it into just a means to rake in cash from a fandom that has proven itself to be highly questionable with finances at best and absolute madness at worst.

Art is for capturing a scene and emotion, and while I won't deny that porn is fun, artists like these bastardize it in their greed. If I were to compare it to something, it would be like them stripping the love and passion of sex and turning it into an industry that only sates horny fools. This greed has taken the simple love for art and furry pussy and made them all into greedy, detestable, pathetic whores.
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 14:49:22 No.1602740
>>1602281
Good luck anon. Don't forget that the likes of waifu2x's denoiser seems to do a pretty good job of removing / scrambling really subtle noisy detail with zero naked eye observable repercussions, or have you already investigated that?
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 15:58:39 No.1602768
>>1602740

Have not - thanks for the reference! Our approach has been a bit more... brute force, I guess? Where differences exist between versions of the image, we just pick a random "winner" on a pixel-by-pixel scan of the difference map. Then, for good measure, we shift the differing value by small random amounts, to munge any data hidden in the values.

We've been taking a multi-sample approach, presuming that the object positioning and other size/shape/inclusion differences are as meaningful as the digital steganography. But I can see how this approach could wipe out that information hiding in a single image, without other samples.

Perhaps I'm giving PrimeLeap too much credit for being crafty and including MORE data than they actually are. A lot of the diffs could just be garbage randomization to throw folks like us off... ;) If I was looking to profit off of pirating their work, I'd probably be more inclined to experiment with more incremental tests. As it is, I'm actually having a perverse amount of fun imagining just how Machiavellian they might be, and devising countermeasures to anything it even looks like they might be doing!

Getting great-looking output containing NONE of the difference data we're seeing between samples is the ultimate goal. And, of course, making it completely automated. If we have to open up Photoshop or pump it through another filter, we'll keep going! ;3
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 18:27:41 No.1602801
>>1602768
Glad to hear there's something actually happening. Wish I could help, but all I can do is give you what info I already know, which at this point is probably largely outdated and/or pretty well established.
Don't forget the literal image dimensions are getting in on the identification action as well, which is A grade bullshit that you literally can't get all the image you're paying these people for. The amount of known watermarking methods is kinda absurd, do have a peruse of the blitz thread on yiff.party to get a feel for what they're doing if you haven't already.
[Edit] Did some quick waifu2x denoise tests with one of the low-colour-count examples you posted, and outside of the areas that are especially grainy, it did a pretty good job of making it look presentable. If you had a denoise pass of a limited palette version of the image, but kept the colour count high enough that it could sufficiently represent all the gradients, I think that'd work out well.

Edited at 2019/06/15 18:44:29
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 18:39:42 No.1602802
In regards to blitz can you fuck her shit up too?
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 20:06:26 No.1602821
for the watermark example, If you look right on top of the frisky ferals logo on the posted page 169 you can see the circles and lines

but yea!! I'm still not banned which is a great sign. not sure when to say it won't ever happen though. i hadn't heard of the denoiser but it's awesome to hear it worked pretty promisingly

I'm tempted to try posting the non gif version to see if that even did anything. maybe at the end of the month when I'll just be charged again anyways...
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Anonymous 2019/06/15 20:28:26 No.1602831
>>1602821
>I'm tempted to try posting the non gif version
Lets not get over confident this early on. What you've posted so far is perfectly acceptable quality-wise.

Besides if you do post the non gif ones and then a ban happens, you won't be able to say for certain which version image it was that earned the ban. It took them about three or four days to react to the pages I posted before a ban email appeared. I'd just urge you to play it safe for now.
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Anonymous 2019/06/17 18:26:38 No.1603731
>>1602831

Also, a ban after 3-4 days may not be a complete indication of failure. The utility of this kind of DRM is automatic detection and extraction of a signature. Based on the layer and shape motion alone, it's very likely that a dedicated human being at PrimeLeap, with Photoshop, could extract enough information out of a "hacked" image to determine which account was likely the source. Humans are much better at fuzzy logic than computers are, and the number of potential variations within their system is still relatively limited.

So if banning requires a human to forensically pull apart an image and then spend a ton of time looking for variants in their records, it will rapidly become infeasible to enforce. People may still get bans, but the velocity with which de-DRM'ed content can hit the web, and new burner accounts can be made, will quickly out-strip the speed at which PrimeLeap can contain them.

Of course, the ideal is that nobody gets banned, and the DRM removal is "total". But perfect is the enemy of good, and victory can be reasonably claimed well short of total annihilation here!
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Anonymous 2019/06/24 00:14:22 No.1605545
page 172?

Edited at 2019/06/24 00:16:34
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Anonymous 2019/06/24 06:10:55 No.1605625
Betting they did end up getting banned and has now disappeared. Rip.
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Anonymous 2019/06/24 16:09:30 No.1605729
>>1605625

I hope not.
I hope the page is not ready yet.
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Anonymous 2019/06/27 03:34:51 No.1606697
>>1602821

huh... I never even noticed those.

Now that you mention it those same watermark symbols are inside the falconry hood/cover on page 168
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Anonymous 2019/06/29 21:51:13 No.1607700
Page 173 is out
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bunnymundpaws 2019/07/05 02:14:48 No.1609745
Is this place dead like stinky rabbit feet?
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Anonymous 2019/07/05 03:56:55 No.1609762
>>1602434

I trusted what he said. I thought it was a real solution :'(
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Anonymous 2019/07/05 06:16:20 No.1609827
>>1609762

As expected, another 'savior' thought he had it all figured out, but was baited hard.

This shit doesn't ban your account like like 1995 shit and you make another, it blacklists the account, the email, the creditcards and all cards with the same name attached, the computer used, even the fucking ip.

Its not account, email and ip. Its been proven long ago that it has way more information than anyone ever can known or protect against.

And before you say "wait, that's illegal' we can report this!" What the fuck will you do honestly? No one reports anything, nor will any government care, look at the site you are on. And honestly, I'm not about to tell my local court that I'm angry I can't get free furry porn, fuck all that.
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Anonymous 2019/07/05 11:23:47 No.1609868
>>1609827
You don't tell whatever relevant legal body that you're angry you can't get free furry porn, you tell whatever relevant legal body that you're angry that some dipshit is holding personal information they shouldn't be holding without ability to request removal, because potential for data breaches and abuse are very much legitimate reasons to want personal info taken down when you have nothing to do with them anymore. ESPECIALLY when it's some random individuals with inflated egos that don't remotely have the funds for a legit security team to make doing so even remotely "legitimate".
>But you said OK to some bullshit legalese when signing up for the site
Something being straight up illegal takes up precedence over morally dubious T&C's. The exacts obviously are dependent on the locations involved, and some anon on a furry chan board is not a wholly valid legal resource, but if you're determined enough and find the right lawyer(s), I'm sure something could be figured out.
Plus, wouldn't they have to spell out what info is they're holding in a T&C? If they don't, and it can be proved they are holding unspecified info, then that sounds like a pretty easy avenue to rip them a new one.
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Anonymous 2019/07/05 15:59:10 No.1609920
>>1609827

Dudes, you need to chill the heck out. The smart guys working on this have said multiple times that it's low priority. It's also the middle of summer. People take vacations, have jobs/internships, and do other stuff outside of the University semesters that don't involve fapping to porn.

Sorry your freebies aren't showing up as quickly as you demand.
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Anonymous 2019/07/05 19:58:43 No.1609999
>>1609920
Not him, but that's definitely cool to know. Personally have no issue with waiting as long as everything is reliably leaked in full quality eventually (at least in a relevant time frame anyway). Communicating SOMETHING is always key, even if saying too much can compromise what you're trying to do, so it's just a "Hey stuff is still happening."
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Anonymous 2019/07/06 22:34:04 No.1610424
Page 169 and 170 are public
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Anonymous 2019/07/07 15:57:55 No.1610822
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172
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Anonymous 2019/07/07 15:58:38 No.1610823
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173
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Anonymous 2019/07/07 15:59:06 No.1610824
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174
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Anonymous 2019/07/07 16:47:42 No.1610831
>>1610824

Ladies and gentlemen, here we can observe a true hero.
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Anonymous 2019/07/07 17:59:04 No.1610853
>>1610822

Hooooly fuck she actually got a beakful.

I mean, it was only one page and really rushed and disjointed beakful of cum, but still. It elevated this from 'painfully, tediously vanilla' to 'actually has one good page so far'.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:12:39 No.1611013
Aaaand banned. I used a new email, vpn, burner card, and definitely removed any watermarks. The only thing I didn't do was use a new device which was suggested as possible tracking above.

I also received this snarky message, which effectively pissed me off but it only makes me want to continue to crack this more and hopefully only shines a brighter light on what a cunt this person is.

"On a personal note, instead of wasting both of our time and effort giving content to people who already get it for free, maybe consider donating to charity so someone who actually needs help can get it. I'd suggest a local food bank or animal shelter."

And as promised, full res files:
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:20:11 No.1611015
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170-174
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:20:14 No.1611016
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>>1611015
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:20:16 No.1611017
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>>1611015
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:20:19 No.1611018
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>>1611015
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 03:20:21 No.1611019
File: NoHarmNoFowl-174_B591D678A314_u18chan.png - (8.86mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 174_B591D678A314.png)
>>1611015
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 04:17:13 No.1611030
>>1611013

Could it work with a virtual machine?
Excuse my ignorance.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 04:22:17 No.1611031
>>1610853
Is fucking a feral bird considered vanilla nowadays?
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 06:09:28 No.1611059
I would like to request the full resolution images of page 148 and 150 if someone has them.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 06:55:32 No.1611066
>>1611013
I dunno man, seems everyone sucks here now.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 08:10:42 No.1611072
>>1611013
>The only thing I didn't do was use a new device
Yeah, that was definitely the screw up. I can practically guarantee there's cookies involved at the most basic, even completely innocent sites track users that way. There's a possibility that the site's leaving a bit more than that, so I'd of suggested a full separate linux install, with swapping out the GPU / using integrated graphics to change up the hardware config at bare minimum.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 13:04:57 No.1611159
>>1611031

If you literally only insert penis into vagina then yeah, it's pretty fucking vanilla. And even after 100+ pages of boring as fuck 'developement' their relationship didn't feel taboo in the slightest, and certainly not enough to make boring-as-fuck penis-in-vagina interesting.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 13:13:00 No.1611160
>>1611013

>and definitely removed any watermarks.

Idiot.

We've already proved conclusively that along with watermarks, they move elements of the images around. Unless you get access to the PSDs and alter the location of layer elements yourself, they're going to be able to track who you are.

https://u18chan.com/uploads/data/13325/wew_2_u18chan.gif

Someone even made a GIF version for your stupid ass. Notice how two different people have different locations for text, symbols, dialogue bubbles and even character elements?

That's how they're fucking tracking you. How many fucking times does it need to be said? You can't dodge that shit with twelve different proxies and a burner phone. The image is altered in ways specific to you that can't just be fixed with photoshop.

The only way you could get around the shit is if you had two different accounts and then averaged out the differences somehow.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 14:11:38 No.1611170
>>1611013

Interesting. Because I've compared 3 separate account versions of the same pages and found no differences like that.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 14:14:06 No.1611171
Absolutely astonished at the CIA-grade fuckery going into protecting this terrible comic. Bernal could only dream of reaching this level.
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Anonymous 2019/07/08 16:31:55 No.1611204
>>1611170

If you are indeed the same anon who was talking all smart with the image movements and comparing different versions to make a gap to move those hidden watermarks, then you would've known and saw that they were there. I'm talking about this post

>>1602281

Comparing your 172 to my 172 shows there's a lot of movement (The sound affects in all panels, the (( accents in all panels, and the last panel with dev's hand being entirely moved with the toys in the upper left of it also moving on their own. Not to mention it's easy to spot the movement of the hidden shapes). If you are indeed the same anon and indeed do the same comparison between 3 unique pages, it would be impossible to not notice any changes. Seeing how your supposed clean image is not any different from your actual page, it doesn't seem that you did any comparisons at all.

Unless that's not the case how it works over at PL. You're already banned, so you might as well tell us. Were all your 3 copies obtained in the same location IP wise (before you say yes because of a VPN, did you even check that the IPs were different for each account)? Did they all have the same payment info? Were they all obtained from the same machine? And were they all obtained from the same browser? If you've answered yes to all (or possibly most) of these questions, then it can be deduced that the movements of panels and text is not done per account, but rather on current location, browser, machine, or payment. Notice how whenever you go take a look at any new page and it says it's loading and would take a minute? If this process was done based on accounts, it should already be completed for your account before even loading the page. But it's not. It takes about 5-10 seconds to load the page in, which during this time, it can be grabbing your current info I mentioned and building your page at that point in time, and if any one of the said info is unique across all 3 accounts, then all pages for all accounts would be exactly the same. This would prevent any one person from being able to have a safe side account or have multiple accounts to construct their own unique pages with the method you mentioned.

Edited at 2019/07/08 16:44:43
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Anonymous 2019/07/09 04:54:34 No.1611431
Jesus fucking Christ.

You idiotic morons never communicate, assume and keep getting banned over the same shit. Meanwhile the bitch artist is fucking us all in the ass.

Edited at 2019/07/09 04:54:56
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Anonymous 2019/07/09 16:24:58 No.1611563
>>1611431

We're communicating fine. The people leaking it are being ignorant fucking idiots.

'Hey, they move individual elements as a form of drm'

'But I used eight proxies and blurred watermarks and I still got banned!'

All the information they need to know on how it's being done is right here in the thread if they'd just fucking learn to read.
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Anonymous 2019/07/09 16:42:26 No.1611571
No one finds it possible that the artist is probably watching this thread to stay one step ahead of us?
It's probably something stupidly simple were all overlooking.

Hell, I'm not sure anyone here even has their own primeleap club but that might be a good step to take. Unfortunately the premium clubs like frisky ferals you have to pay for it and for the life of me I can't find how much it costs.
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Anonymous 2019/07/09 17:24:28 No.1611594
>>1611571

We already accepted the fact that it's pretty much impossible to leak and keep your account, so it doesn't really matter what we say since (if what one anon said isn't true with being able to construct your own images based on the movements the objects in the image if you have multiple unique copies) it's safe to say that all attempts would result in a ban. At this point, the best option is suicide, but the issue with this is people only use new IPs instead of actually using fresh info for everything.
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Anonymous 2019/07/10 05:34:18 No.1611926
>>1611594
And some people can't even fucking do that, zero brains, they just make another patreon account with the same email, using the same card/bank and wonder why they can't sub to bitch Sef.

It's like they really think they can't track its the same guy from a simple email change, they check everything now.

Edited at 2019/07/10 05:38:13
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Anonymous 2019/07/11 14:41:52 No.1612464
>>1611013
She may have a point though. I wish I had you type of disposable money though.
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Anonymous 2019/07/12 14:17:00 No.1612855
>"maybe consider donating to charity.."

Way ahead of you there Sef! I've been donating the money I would have spent on NHNF to Yiff.party from the point you quintoupled your prices.
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Anonymous 2019/07/12 16:01:31 No.1612874
>>1612855

Lol, you're getting scammed dude. YP has been dead for well over a year and a half now and serves to be nothing other than a more organized u18 since everything is updated by users which is done here as well.
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Anonymous 2019/07/15 08:33:57 No.1615448
:/
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Anonymous 2019/07/15 09:34:05 No.1615453
This is the 3rd porn comic I've seen and my first time using u 18 how does everyone get so organized I like no harm no fowl can't wait to see addy mom to fuk them up [I mean fucking kill them] I love story buildup I don't like the porn part of the stories
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Anonymous 2019/07/15 09:47:57 No.1615455
Don't get me wrong but I never jack off porn even once some of you thinks that's a lie it's really not it's wierd for me so and I can't even if I want to but it's wierd so I don't care but STOP THE PORN AND MORE STORY BUILDING some may hate but I like da stories some may agree But would it be cool if Addy's mom show up to fuk everything up and I also want this to happen

So there's sperm donations right but what if there's a bird sperm donation that's grandkids for Addy's mom and let's say she gets eagle sperm but let's say Devon and Addy talked about this and Devon cool with it . Then Addy wants Devon to put the thing in after that's done Let's say Devon is basically they father figure for da baby And Addy's mom is cool with that Then a time-laspe wouldn't that be cool
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Anonymous 2019/07/15 13:09:18 No.1615519
>>1615455

https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0
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Anonymous 2019/07/17 12:10:10 No.1617145
Lol rip guy but I only like that one thing though is the part where he or she said oh wait can girls jerk of *mind goes to the infinite stairway down to mental soul *
Yeah everything he said was dumb as fuk but I do want nothing to do about story development FUCK THE BIRB HARDER
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Anonymous 2019/07/18 05:18:39 No.1617462
File: IMG_20190717_162748_u18chan.jpg - (14.58kb, 269x444, IMG_20190717_162748.jpg)
>>1615453
>>1615455
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Anonymous 2019/07/18 09:48:01 No.1617547
Do you think that guy saw this and he's crying in the corner or he saw it and he like well might as well die
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Anonymous 2019/07/18 11:15:12 No.1617557
File: 12320719_u18chan.jpg - (36.55kb, 300x435, 12320719.jpg)
He/she might as well use this
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Anonymous 2019/07/19 11:21:05 No.1618197
He went to far with the personally stuff but I also want story buildup
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Troycashew 2019/07/19 20:37:54 No.1618346
Yes
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Anonymous 2019/07/20 00:05:50 No.1618425
This comic is 60% Talk, 5% bullshit, 10% porn and 25% boredom.

I don't get how you guys can watch this crap, the only thing redeeming this, in my opinion is that the artstyle is good.
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Anonymous 2019/07/20 09:24:57 No.1618669
>>1618425

Simply put: Very little of this kind of thing exists outside of this comic, only 1 or 2 other artists have done anthro/human on feral bird and I'm pretty sure I could go to E621 and there'd only be around half a page of this kind of stuff there.
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Bayli 2019/07/20 16:18:29 No.1618750
Holy crap this just got so hot *fans myself with paw* whoot
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Anonymous 2019/07/20 20:23:57 No.1618804
>>1611015

This comic looks so fucking stupid when you think about it. Everything about that bird is just ugly and unattractive. People actually waited and paid for this shit for over 2 years, let that sink in for a second. And sef says that it's world building yeah that's nice but over 2 years and fck all of a story isn't world building; it's dragging it on for profit.

Also, some of you spouting paragraphs upon paragraphs back at one another, arguing about the DRM shit and how you're more of a PS expert than everyone else really need to go and get lives. Like holy shit just move on already.
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Anonymous 2019/07/21 03:06:58 No.1619003
http://imgur.com/a/t3bzHO4

new pages
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Anonymous 2019/07/22 01:06:49 No.1619526
I think the photos are removed
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Anonymous 2019/07/22 15:49:12 No.1619732
>>1619526

Here are the new pages:

https://anonfiles.com/o3W4yc02n5/IlskjO6_gif
https://anonfiles.com/R4V9y902na/0Pv5IXU_gif
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Anonymous 2019/07/24 01:53:50 No.1620476
I honestly hope that sef loses a ton of support for this.. 2 years and the comic is fucking terrible
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Anonymous 2019/07/25 07:10:17 No.1621000
>>1620476
Lost mine when this thing started. I'm not pledging to patreon only for some content creator to fuck off to their own site and to blanket criminalize anyone giving them money. I'm pretty angry at patreon for not putting a stop to this.

Sef is abusing their platform as a means of advertising and to not have to deal with implementing an e-sales system. That DRM shit goes against the very core of the patreon idea, which is content creators serving their patrons in exchange for patronage. To me this is like if I bought a painting print from an arts gallery and the painter followed me home to make sure I'm not displaying the print outside of my own home.
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Anonymous 2019/07/30 03:26:35 No.1623021
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
>A subculture at this stage is ripe for exploitation.
>The mops, when properly squeezed, produce liquid capital, i.e. money.
>The sociopaths quickly become best friends with selected creators. They dress just like the creators—only better. They talk just like the creators—only smoother. They may even do some creating—competently, if not creatively.
>Mops are fooled. They don’t care so much about details, and the sociopaths look to them like creators, only better. Sociopaths become the coolest kids in the room, demoting the creators. At this stage, they take their pick of the best-looking mops to sleep with. They’ve extracted the cultural capital.
>The sociopaths also work out how to monetize mops—which the fanatics were never good at. With better publicity materials, the addition of a light show, and new, more crowd-friendly product, admission fees go up tenfold, and mops are willing to pay.
We are most definitely here.
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Anonymous 2019/07/30 12:00:18 No.1623161
Hold up, so if Kuro is the creator and the mops are the patrons, who is the sociopath?
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Anonymous 2019/07/30 22:05:31 No.1623441
>>1623161
>implying that kruo isn't one of the sociopaths
>Implying that we have any creators to begin with
>Implying that they aren't all sociopaths

Your optimism is endearing, but that's exactly what the sociopaths exploit to get money from mops.
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Wizard 2019/07/30 23:17:55 No.1623459
I find it hard to believe this is kuro's work
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Anonymous 2019/07/31 01:12:02 No.1623499
Page 177 is out on prime
(Bumper have a reference)
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Anonymous 2019/07/31 07:55:06 No.1623638
r>>1623441
Jesus christ, you're all starting to sound like the people over on r/niceguys. "It's all because all women are terrible that we have such a bad rap."
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Anonymous 2019/08/01 07:34:34 No.1624126
Even more reason not to leak for ungrateful anons.
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Anonymous 2019/08/02 16:22:05 No.1624777
So what would be a good version of this kind of comic? And does it have to be wolf on bird? Is it the bird that’s the appeal, or the anthro on feral action? It’s never a guarantee and I’m no Sef in the art department, but I’ve been watching this thread for years and I’m interested by the idea, sort of. I’m leaning towards malybird, female anthro since this comic implies it could happen but doesn’t even remotely suggest how. Would that be of interest to anyone here?
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Anonymous 2019/08/02 18:55:10 No.1624873
>>1624777
A good version would likely make the story more worthwhile if it had such a big focus on it, that or just push it to the wayside and focus on the sex.

the appeal is summed up in its niche of being feral avian, and I'm pretty sure the anthro would HAVE to have a penis, a big part of the appeal [for me at least] is big dick just barely fitting into an orifice its REALLY not meant to be in.

IMO the sex would likely include more fetishes as well, something more...Fantastical, because this is a frighteningly vanilla comic for what is a wolf shagging an eagle. Where's the cervix penetration? Cum inflation? C'mon, we're already sick fucks anyways. That's my take on it.
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Anonymous 2019/08/02 19:30:33 No.1624883
>>1624777

Most of us think the story was entirely too lackluster for the pitter-pattering around that caused a lack of 'action' between the nearly 180 pages now. There have been plenty of comics where the story build up was well written which made the wait for sex, or the minimal amount of sex ,worthwhile.Whereas here it was bland, strung-out, and disappointing.

I think what attracted people to this comic was the anthro-on-feral anatomical differences explored more specifically on the feral bird. When it first came out, anthro-on-feral-bird was a fresh idea, we were seeing more birds (and more feral birds) and we were all intrigued by the scenario because of this unnatural combination and specific anatomical orifice being used for sexual purposes outside what it is normally used for. However the story which delayed our satisfaction didn't even touch on those interests in it's 'build-up' and any intriguing subjects surrounding this combination were either barely mentioned or left out entirely which was the cause for disappointment.

tl;dr a better version would be a better written story which didn't delayed the sex as much and/or hyped it up better while having the sex that eventually did happened a bit more worthwhile
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Anonymous 2019/08/03 04:04:48 No.1625113
>>1624883

This comic probably would've faired better if it was updated more frequently rather than once a week. A good example to look at is Thunderous Erection's Study Partners comic. Each chapter pretty much made its way up to 100+ pages, but they were being posted every 2-3 days. They would have long spans of maybe 50 or so pages of just dialogue scenes and then get to a rather long sex scene, yet people still enjoyed it. Maybe it's because the story was more in depth rather than this forbidden love story, but I want to say the speed at which it came out made it more enjoyable.

Granted the art is pretty simple which makes it much more easier to pump out, but I doubt it takes a week to make a single page for this comic. Watching some of the streams showed her working on pages that got posted well over a month or so later. Pages like 171-174 were being worked (and I'm talking about midway on being inked from the brief moments I watched them) on around the 1st to 5th of may but they weren't posted to PL until mid to late june/early july.

Also, it's really sad how much she censored the comic on the final version. If you've watched her streams (which are pretty much public) back then, many pages like 171 with the fingering, 172 with the cumshot on mouth, and 174 with the about to penetrate shot were all full bodied pinups without the mask on which honestly looks much better than the final product. With the final product, we've gotten closeups that would put kuroodod to shame. I also reckon if she didn't cover up 90% of full bodied pinups with needless effects and alternate angles, this would've been a much more enjoyable comic, but as with what we saw with their DRM, she most likely wouldn't be able to have many moving objects in the pages. In other words, she ruined the quality of her own comic in favour of adding as much DRM as possible. It goes to show she cares more about money than providing quality content. How much does she really lose to people here? I suspect anywhere from $50-$150 in leaks with maybe only half actually being potential buyers, so realistically only $25-$75 a month she would lose since the other half would have not bought it in the first place. All this extra drm panels just over an insignificant amount of money? I mean, this may be just speculation, but considering how the panels themselves move and bodyparts and characters move in these small panels move, it's hard not to believe it. If she does release these full bodied pinups at some point, I won't care, but if she doesn't, then it is what I already said.
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Anonymous 2019/08/03 04:47:22 No.1625117
File: fullbody_u18chan.png - (643.77kb, 646x837, fullbody.png)
>>1625113

Should probably provide an image to show what I mean. I'm using the free page and not the one here or the sketch because I don't trust them to not have a bot watching this thread and ripping caches/ips.

As you can see, when placed together, it starts to build the full bodied pinup, but there's a lot of blank space because it was chopped up and placed next to each other on separate layers to help build the drm. Unsurprisingly enough, the image provided in this thread is easier to match up the lines because more of the wing/fingers are being shown in the fingering section. Yes, there's more to both of those pieces. It was originally supposed to fully show them on the bed kissing and dev fingering and you can see the start of the curve of devon's ass. If the pinup was left untouched, it would've been a much better image that what we got with the final 174 page. Hell, I'll even give her a compliment. The non chopped up version has more emotion and is more beautiful than the chopped up one. It gets the point and the situation across much more better.

I pay, so I'm not just a angry leech. It's a damn shame how she's chopping up her beautiful work in favour of having more DRM pieces. It is a damn shame. I at least hope she releases them at some point because it could effectively save this comic.
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Anonymous 2019/08/03 14:19:34 No.1625238
>>1625113

All very true as well; Ientirely agree. All those points factored into the decimation of this comics potential
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Anonymous 2019/08/03 14:29:24 No.1625240
>>1625117
unf you're right. That damn DRM man
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Anonymous 2019/08/03 16:30:12 No.1625268
This most likely isn't the only example either. Like I said with 172 and 174, they had full bodied shots fully drawn out. I don't know if she has done it since the start or recently with the DRM, but my guess is that she's drawing multiple full bodied shots, inking them and fully rendering them, and then cutting them up and placing them on multiple layers and having different panels cover up the larger pieces so she can have an effective drm. The question is why would she rather go through so much effort of making multiple pinups but then destroying them in favour of having more DRM? The answer must be just greedy for as much money she can get and doesn't care about obstructing her work in the process.
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Anonymous 2019/08/05 03:07:26 No.1625929
Story questioner here: Thanks for the feedback anons! I don’t know if I could really make the story y’all would want but your input was very helpful. I’m kicking around something with a fennec girl and an ostrich guy, so you’d still get a big dick in a small hole at least, heh. I’m just not the sort to rehash what’s already been done, even if what’s been done isn’t as good as it could be for whatever reasons. If I do make anything of the idea, I’ll post it in a new thread.
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Anonymous 2019/08/07 00:41:20 No.1627348
>>1625929
That reminds me, are there any writefags still up for writing out an alternate story/sex scenes? I remember seeing that a few months back and was wondering if someone could do something for me.
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Anonymous 2019/08/09 04:54:25 No.1628857
>>1627348
Maybe? Depends on what you’re after and if I got the time. What’re you thinking?
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Anonymous 2019/08/09 13:31:34 No.1629007
>>1628857
I was the guy up above complaining about the lack of more intense kinks like cervix penetration or cum inflation, that's mainly what I'm wanting, certainly not something for everyone but goddamnit Devon is big enough that I expected it to happen earlier. There's also darker kinks like non-con or rape but...Yeah, I'm not expecting anyone to be into or want that unless they're writing it out of spite for Sefeiren.

Really do as you please, it can't be any worse than what we have now.
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Anonymous 2019/08/10 20:21:17 No.1629698
Page 179 and 180 is out in one day
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Anonymous 2019/08/11 07:19:56 No.1629881
>>1629007
Rough draft now exists. I think I got everything you want in there. It’s a lot meaner to Addy than I expected, whoops. The reality of all those fantasies turns out to be quite a bit more than she bargained for. I’ll try to get it edited and posted soon.
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Anonymous 2019/08/11 07:40:22 No.1629887
Does anyone else think this is entirely a one sided relationship? There’s passion between them when he’s fingering her and kind of when they fuck, but everywhere else in the comic it really looks like Addy has an obsession and Devon would much rather fuck any other girl but nobody wants him but Addy. There’s even a prolonged scene of him looking at other chicks and they don’t even fuck after apparently months of dating until he watches at least three hours of dog girl porn. And even then, Addy is the one who gets things going, just like the first time. I honestly feel bad for her being so desperate for a guy who’s only indulging her because he’s too lacking in personality to get anyone else. Bird deserves a better boyfriend.
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Anonymous 2019/08/11 15:01:28 No.1630027
>>1629881
Really? Good shit man, thank ya!
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Anonymous 2019/08/12 12:05:25 No.1630386
>>1629887

I entirely agree. Back when I actually cared, I was working on a total revised edit of the entire story (that didn't stall around a bunch but also) that actually depicted a growing romantic connection between the two in the time that they were 'dating'. I thought the whole porn thing to get in the mood was very odd and one-sided. It could at least been an anthro-on-feral porn they could have watched and that would have felt a slight bit more two-way. And then the whole bdsm thing came out of no where...
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Anonymous 2019/08/13 01:30:21 No.1630582
>>1630386
Yeah Devon doesn’t have enough personality or brains to be a dom and there’s been no hint whatsoever that Addy is into subbing. This is just kind of dumb at this point and we already saw Addy take a dildo in the first few pages.
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Anonymous 2019/08/13 15:32:43 No.1630891
>>1630386

Yeah, the BDSM made no sense and sort of ruined the feel of the comic. The original sketches that she made didn't have any BDSM which means she must've added it in last minute for whatever reason.
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 03:09:33 No.1631419
Write anon here. Anyone know where I can post the story? I don't wanna clutter up the board if you guys don't want to see that but I'm also not so sure I want to have a name associated with it, y'know?
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 03:36:51 No.1631430
>>1631419
OR here; I was honestly wondering if you'd be alright with me requesting your FA if you had one, if you wish to remain anon that's fine.

I would recommend that you screencap the story and put it into an album or just upload the file to something like mega where you can do so without an account.
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 04:41:43 No.1631449
>>1631430
Aww to hell with it. It's up on FA now. Hope you enjoy anon!
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/32667571/
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 05:15:29 No.1631457
**Spoilers**

Comic is finally coming to and end soon.
175/176 Are the final sex pages and then it's 4 more pages of filler shower scene. Just boring anti-climatic nonsense. There's maybe 10 more pages of dialogue left but it seems like Sef's *finally* concluding it. I ended my support today so I'll leak the pages if nobody else will at the end of the month.
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 06:22:25 No.1631481
>>1631457
Nah don't, keep your account for the next comic that will actually be worth it. Unless you plan on not seeing the next one.
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Anonymous 2019/08/15 10:43:20 No.1631522
>>1631481

Unless the next comic is No Hyenas (still salty about paying for the support pack) I'm not keeping my pledge.
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Anonymous 2019/08/19 21:57:15 No.1633672
Page 175/176 are public
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Anonymous 2019/08/20 04:45:02 No.1633818
Aside from quality, couldn't you just take a photo with your phone and post those pics instead? The DRM crap would pretty much be non-existent.
At least that way you could let the pages build up before axing off your account.
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Anonymous 2019/08/20 05:16:06 No.1633827
>>1633818
Dude... no.
We LITERALLY had someone in this thread DO JUST THAT and Sef somehow STILL got them.

Outside photos from phones ain't safe either. And again, for the gazillionth time...

THE DRM IS MOVED PARTS WITHIN THE PICTURE ITSELF, NOT NUMBER CODE. That is a TRAP.
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Anonymous 2019/08/20 15:46:26 No.1634041
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175
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Anonymous 2019/08/20 15:47:09 No.1634042
File: 1566247664.sefeiren_nhnf_pg176f_u18chan.jpg - (1.15mb, 936x1200, 1566247664.sefeiren_nhnf_pg176f.jpg)
176
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Anonymous 2019/08/20 16:32:35 No.1634050
>>1633827

blurry phone pic anon got fucked because he accessed the page before sef made the announcement on patreon and even told everybody here about it happening like that. They have timestamps to see when people accessed/downloaded each picture. It won't be hard to match the timestamp of blurry phone guy's post here and the timestamp of the access/download, especially since it was before anybody else was notified that it was up.

Theoretically phone images are still possible, but it has to be really shitty quality. Transparent shapes will still be there (was curious and tried it with some anon's page posted a while back), and not to mention that the position of panels and characters are also still going to be there clear as day unless you shake your phone whilst taking the picture and then apply a shit ton of grain filter to it afterwards
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Anonymous 2019/08/21 21:16:49 No.1634580
Why aren't we just...letting her post it for free herself? Why go through all the bother of being banned anyway for something that's going to be posted for free 4 weeks later anyhow?
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Anonymous 2019/08/22 08:55:13 No.1634768
>>1634580
Because that would validate Primeleap as being effective at stopping leaks and every moneygrubber would flock there.

Honestly, the only reason that the Primeleap DRM hasn't been properly cracked yet is because of a lack of cohesion amongst those who want to try, and that NHNF turned to such a filler-full shitshow that the enthusiasm for doing so has dropped.

Besides, NHNF moves so slowly that leaking once a month is the only way that makes sense. Just look at the last page for example. Two Thirds of it is dedicated to taking her stupid hat off.
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Anonymous 2019/08/22 09:26:50 No.1634775
>>1634768
You just sold me on the fact that validates Primeleap as being effective at stopping leaks.
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Anonymous 2019/08/23 01:45:23 No.1635004
>>1634580
>>1634768
It's a lot simpler than that, she paywalls the hires versions and some bonus art, that's enough reason to want it sooner. Though personally I don't care for this comic and can't wait or it to end so she can focus on something that's hopefully more interesting.

Ideally a complete siterip needs to happen eventually, like what happened to sexyfur or hardblush, but primeleap isn't popular enough for someone knowledgeable enough in siteripping to bother with that I guess.
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Anonymous 2019/08/23 16:49:26 No.1635277
That moment when the comic is so fucking trash and boring that people are more interested in cracking its nazi-like DRM than they are in the comic itself.
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:19:34 No.1638864
File: NoHarmNoFowl-175_833177629B40_u18chan.png - (8.09mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 175_833177629B40.png)
>>1631457

Well, like I said before, I'm done with this comic. I'm ending my pledge and I'll upload all the missing Primeleap pages. It looks like it's nothing but ending dialogue fluff from now until December anyway.
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:19:36 No.1638865
File: NoHarmNoFowl-176_90B1F7429B50_u18chan.png - (8.04mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 176_90B1F7429B50.png)
>>1638864
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:19:39 No.1638866
File: NoHarmNoFowl-177_48A1F7429950_u18chan.png - (9.05mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 177_48A1F7429950.png)
>>1638864
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:21:57 No.1638868
File: NoHarmNoFowl-178_5751576A9B52_u18chan.png - (5.76mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 178_5751576A9B52.png)
>>1638864
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:22:02 No.1638869
File: NoHarmNoFowl-179_3991F76A9B56_u18chan.png - (7.46mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 179_3991F76A9B56.png)
>>1638868
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:22:04 No.1638871
File: NoHarmNoFowl-180_D611D74A9956_u18chan.png - (7.5mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 180_D611D74A9956.png)
>>1638868
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:23:25 No.1638875
File: NoHarmNoFowl-181_D4A1774F8B62_u18chan.png - (7.71mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 181_D4A1774F8B62.png)
>>1638868
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:23:27 No.1638876
File: NoHarmNoFowl-182_4381C578B8E6_u18chan.png - (7.45mb, 2674x3426, No Harm No Fowl - 182_4381C578B8E6.png)
>>1638875
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Anonymous 2019/08/30 22:28:24 No.1638877
>>1638864
Damn, that'd be a real shame if that's all the smut we get from such a long comic.
I mean in the main story we have, like what, over three separate montages of backstory bloating the page count, and we don't get a single sex montage of all the crazy sex stuff they'll be doing over the next several days?
I just want to see Dev wearing Addy like a cocksleeve while casually sipping a cup of coffee, dammit -_-
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Anonymous 2019/08/31 06:44:17 No.1639047
>>1634050
blurman reporting in. I was always careful to lie about timing, and never downloaded right after they were posted, and further waited for a while after I downloaded (hours to days in most cases). I believe what I did wrong was post images with excessively high resolutions, becaues then the relative "component" positions could be determined
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Anonymous 2019/08/31 08:30:02 No.1639073
>>1639047
Doubt, even the guy who cropped and flat colored the shit out of the image was destroyed.

There's only so much visual code, there's something in the direct download of it. But there only way to download is to press download, and screening doesn't work as we know. Screwed on both methods.
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Anonymous 2019/09/01 03:37:08 No.1639380
Jesus sef needs to work on body language, expressions, and scene tone. These pages look like Dev is having several horrifying realizations in the shower and is filled with shame, regret, and loathing for fucking the bird he had to watch dog porn to get hard for. I don’t buy that he gives two shits for Addy.
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Anonymous 2019/09/01 03:54:46 No.1639382
Holy shit you're right, this fits perfectly with some tense horror music.
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Anonymous 2019/09/01 04:00:38 No.1639384
Something like this maybe...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV5tpjJWW0Q
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Anonymous 2019/09/06 11:02:55 No.1641704
File: HfoLFps8VQ_u18chan.png - (27.96kb, 1093x422, HfoLFps8VQ.png)
What was the turning point?
primeleap?
constant useless page fluff?
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Anonymous 2019/09/06 11:09:41 No.1641707
>>1641704

Primeleap came at least half a year before that drop, pretty much almost all of 2018 was PL.

But what did come at the time of that drop was the change from $1 to see the comic page, to $5.

The numbers of patreons on that cheap cheap train dropped out like a asteroid.

It also effected the leaks a ton more than primeleap, now it was a waste of $5 an account, with a page each week and multiple accounts that's $20bucks a month.

Definitely fuck that shit. And when the porn climax hit and was underwhleming, more people started exiting.

But don't hold your breath, cuz when that new comic hits in like a year lol. Maybe those big numbers are gotta come back.
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Anonymous 2019/09/06 13:42:58 No.1641736
>>1641707
>But don't hold your breath, cuz when that new comic hits in like a year lol. Maybe those big numbers are gotta come back.

After the exposition:porn ratio of the last comic, I think even the thirstiest patrons are going to look for better value for their dollar elsewhere
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Anonymous 2019/09/19 21:00:50 No.1646965
I so deeply regret voting for this comic... I wanted to see more of the wolf... should had gone with the lesbian one.
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Anonymous 2019/09/20 03:34:36 No.1647060
>>1646965
There could have been lesbians?! Even with bad writing that would have been better. At least there’d be hot chicks. Got any info on what that would have been like?
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Anonymous 2019/09/20 05:45:16 No.1647096
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>>1647060
The vote happened nearly 3 and a half years ago now.
https://inkbunny.net/s/1068730

It was pretty much between straight feral on feral, lesbian feral on feral (angry/hate sex), incest rape feral on feral, and what we got straight anthro on feral.

"Nedra and Simone have a complicated relationship. There isn't much love between the two, but that doesn't stop Simone from giving in to Nedra's forceful advances whenever they encounter each other. She doesn't give in without a fight though, and their sexual encounters tend to be on the rough side.

This comic would feature Nedra and Simone engaging in some angry lesbian sex, and contain female hyenabeast on female grumpy dragon action~! "
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S 2019/09/20 07:18:32 No.1647133
Yup, that’s the one! Even if she would drag the hell out of it too, sounded fun. I thought these two would be cool together that’s why I voted but sadly it went like this... it’s not that I hate it entirely but, God, almost 200 pages of it?
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Anonymous 2019/10/03 02:40:59 No.1652654
A month has past
No pages yet
>:(
Time to purge
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Anonymous 2019/10/09 13:43:13 No.1655278
Someone: explain this
Me: Bark SQWAAK
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Anonymous 2019/10/13 05:56:09 No.1656912
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Found this in e621
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Furrynomous 2019/10/13 07:03:52 No.1656941
Guess the comic is beginning the next cycle of pages with nothing but awkward glances and no dialogue.
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Anonymous 2019/10/13 09:48:23 No.1657018
>>1656941

The next 20 pages

https://youtu.be/aJCSNIl2Pls?t=312
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Anonymous 2019/10/14 02:40:30 No.1657376
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Anonymous 2019/10/14 02:41:20 No.1657377
As long as it's not like a certain Kung Fu Panda comic that constantly teases you and then ends in cringe and disappointment, like the artist's overall work these days, I'm fine with anything.
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Anonymous 2019/10/14 21:25:34 No.1657640
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This comic should had finished a lot of pages ago.

The yiff had been sooner. The author probably wanted to differentiate from the classic "porn without plot", but she had no idea of writing so, this thing is the result.

(In my image change "Leonard" for "Real Madrid")
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Anonymous 2019/10/15 17:08:39 No.1657963
>>1657640

The porn wasn't even that good either because she skimped out on so much shit. I watched a few of her streams and she had full bodied pinup type pages that she split apart in favour of more panels or closeups. I hope she just releases those unedited pages, even if it's just for paid people. It could've been more well received if they weren't cutup.
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Anonymous 2019/10/18 13:42:47 No.1659070
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Found on FA
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Anonymous 2019/10/20 00:17:55 No.1659653
Sheesh, I haven't checked back in a year and this comic is still active? I see he finally knotted the bird, but what more is there to go on about? Drama? Love life? Being seen in public again? Never seen a 200-page comic before, but this will reach that soon.
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Anonymous 2019/10/20 17:42:02 No.1659889
>>1659653
Guess somebody still pays for this shit, if they've not, the comic would be dead long time ago like hyena one.
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Anonymous 2019/10/21 01:45:07 No.1660029
>>1659889
I don't know they've been losing quite a bit of support, if charts are anything to go by they lost over $400 in support since last year

Edited at 2019/10/21 01:47:18
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Anonymous 2019/10/21 15:54:37 No.1660304
Heeey here's a debate:

Who did pacing, storyline the worst, and in general was all around the shittiest:

No Harm No Foul

Or

Better Late Than Never?
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Anonymous 2019/10/22 04:59:21 No.1660620
>>1660304

Did you leave Catastrophe off because it'd be no contest? Faf checked all boxes and then some.

Edited at 2019/10/22 05:04:12
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Anonymous 2019/10/22 08:58:20 No.1660684
>>1660620
Faf will always be the worst patreon abuser, what Sef did was just make this comic way too long, but at least its free in time.

Faf thou, always a bastard forevermore. The only artist who fucking doxxes his supporters.

Edited at 2019/10/22 08:59:04
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DianaXDemion 2019/10/23 05:28:39 No.1661180
Creative but where is the new pages I need a little bit of ideas for my thing
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Anonymous 2019/10/23 10:26:22 No.1661225
>>1660304
BLTN was ridiculously long and got stupid as fuck but at the very least it was excessively porn themed so you would always have something to enjoy as it carried on. As dumb as it was it still barely had an essence of a story to it and plenty of porn to fill in the gaps. The whole comic was themed around porn and stuck to it and had probably like 20 or 30 different sex scenes to it.

This, on the other hand, is just boring and drawn out and made excessively long for something that could have been done in like a fourth of the amount of pages. The actual sex scene of the comic was drawn out for like 60 pages, that's how shit the pacing is. For the first 104 pages we had a couple pages of masturbation, some odd amount of fingering, and the entirety of the rest was just story exposition about a boring dude with no personality and a bird girl absolutely thirsty as fuck for him while he fears what the public might think if they dated. If you count the start of the sex scene at 105 where they start watching a porno, they don't actually get to any foreplay until 116 when addy finally gets her talons on his dick. The rest of the scene is just the same thing where it takes like 5 pages just for the intiial penetration or something. This comic does have a pace but its just so unnecessarily slow. The fact that we have pages where the entire page is just a zoom in on one of the character's mouth being closed, next frame being open, frame after that they actually say something or have an expression says a lot about how drawn out everything is.

Sef's art is still great to me and the character's are cute together but there's just nothing actually being expanded or developed upon about these characters and their personalities and I just cannot give a fuck about them because of it. The length just makes it worse. I probably would have loved it more if this was the usual 10 ~ 20 page image set that frisky ferals usually puts out.
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Anonymous 2019/10/24 08:21:57 No.1661775
>>1661225

I think you're glossing over the shitshow that BLTN was when it came out. Po didn't stick his dick in the tigress until page 200+. You can go back and check yourself.

From pages 100-200 the threads in /c/ were full of people raging and ranting about cockblocks and false starts, and even once the sex HAPPENED the tigress was fucking impaled the page immediately afterwards, bringing back the furor. A 'fan' even drew a short comic of Po beating tigress to death with a rock over all of the cockblocks and shit, it was hilarious.

I think it's just because BLTN was a long time ago that people remember it favorably. During its heyday, it was just as much a shitshow as this comic is. Except it eventually got good.

I don't forsee this fucking dumpster fire ever getting 'good', unless Addy starts going down on Devon again in the next few pages.

Edited at 2019/10/24 08:22:26
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Anonymous 2019/10/24 10:26:38 No.1661802
>>1661775
that was kind of my point that it eventually did get good and as bad as the 100 page story hump was it still had a bunch of porn to it afterwards and was at least more interesting as a story than this one was. Devon just does not have a personality and Addy is a bland and boring tsundere. I definitely agree that the only way this comic can get better if we're just about over a hump and the rest of this comic is a bunch of porn and actual interesting exposition and world building but I highly doubt that.
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Anonymous 2019/10/25 16:22:18 No.1662458
Sooo, uh, did that reference to Shana and Justin getting in deep shit ever go anywhere, or did Sef just completely forget about it?
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Anonymous 2019/10/25 23:18:12 No.1662635
This thread is so long it can't load the newest post
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Anonymous 2019/10/27 14:34:04 No.1663165
>>1662635

cause people keep bitching bout this comic nonstop instead of having people post the next page
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Anonymous 2019/10/28 07:10:03 No.1663450
>>1663165
Pff. What next page? Nobody's leaking it and the only good thing about this comic is bitching about it. Turn on fap mode. Problem solved.
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Anonymous 2019/11/03 04:50:39 No.1666097
What about the new pages to 190
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Anonymous 2019/11/03 06:38:38 No.1666132
Can someone leak the next six pages already? 15 days without a new page for the public, it's like I'm in a desert.
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Anonymous 2019/11/04 00:07:33 No.1666331
>>1666132
Theres no point leaking and losing an account.. that page last post 184* was the last porn* posted; its just back to absoloute bs awkwardness again.

Honestly, feels like shes just wrapping it up at this point.. Wouldn't be suprised if its finished just before Christmas.
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Anonymous 2019/11/04 03:34:49 No.1666415
>>1666331
Is it hard to create another account to leak more?
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Anonymous 2019/11/04 06:42:59 No.1666477
>>1666415

Primeleap's defenses pretty much track you based on your banking information and can blanket ban you from just about anywhere if you try to rejoin with any piece of matching information. Sooooo, yeah. Alternate accounts are out of the question. Mass storage and leaking after a six to twelve month span is really the best option at this point until DRM gets a weakness.
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Anonymous 2019/11/10 17:44:06 No.1669101
>>1666132
It's back to fluff and filler pages again for who knows how long. Not worth paying for that.

Besides, the render quality of the pages has taken a noticeible dive since the end of the recent sex scene. Addison has lost a lot of her feather detail and backgrounds are turning in to blurs and gradients. Even P180 doesn't look as good as she did in the earlier pages.

Looks like Sef is pulling a Kabier on us.
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Anonymous 2019/11/11 23:18:17 No.1669929
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I regularly follow this thread even if I've never really been interested in this comic . I would have preferred it to end after 90-100 pages.

I had voted for choice A anyway with the dragon which perfectly summarizes my state of mind by reading NHNF , especially the last pages.
Sefeiren is much better on feral and noodle dragons are hot for fuck's sake.

Can someone share the unreleased pics fro the sketchbook? It will make this thread more useful.
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Anonymous 2019/11/19 03:05:30 No.1673177
3 pages have already been posted on e621
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Anonymous 2019/11/19 06:39:16 No.1673313
no thanks to anyone here of course, y'all just wait for the artist to post now, this thread is useless.
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Anonymous 2019/11/23 10:23:56 No.1675235
Looks like Sef blocked me on FA for writing the Addy x Dev porn? Or I assume so since I can’t imagine any other reason. I was slowly leaning towards being a fan of her in general but maybe not. If the story bothered her I’d take it down if she asked but she didn’t say anything. Oh well. I can still watch her on FA but none of my followers will find out since I can’t fave. At least I left an impression? ha ha!
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Anonymous 2019/11/23 20:34:42 No.1675449
>>1675235
Well there is a chance it wasn't her actually. FA has been known to have a bug where people will at random be added and removed from your watch and block lists...

I don't know if they've ever addressed it but every time I've checked announcements by FA there's never been a mention of them dealing with it. Then again they might of done so and kept quiet because they deem the issue too embarrassing or something silly like that.

FA is a mess and it's coders are incompetent a lot of the time. So FA isn't the best place to assume you've been blocked...but if you advertise you're on any other website on your FA account like if you have a DA account...and they've blocked you on their DA account...then yep...you're probably blocked. Best to double check where you can.
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Anonymous 2019/11/23 20:56:27 No.1675460
>>1675449
It appears this is what happened since FA’s block system isn’t supposed to prevent faving from what I’ve read. I didn’t know this was a thing that could happen. Well, if that’s the case, then apologise to Sef for making assumptions. Thanks for letting me know about this anon!
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Anonymous 2019/11/25 04:03:13 No.1676121
>>1675460
According to the FA staffer I sent a bug report to, this isn't a thing? Oh well. If she blocked me it doesn't actually stop me from what I was already doing, looking at her art and not interacting. Hopefully some entertainment was had by someone with this, and I may write more heinous fan fictions for y'all sometime.
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Anonymous 2019/11/25 08:29:14 No.1676221
>>1675460
You can't fav the blocker's submission, so she most certainly blocked you if you're getting a blocked message when trying to fav or comment. I only know as someone who's been blocked at least twice from two other artists for reasons unknown to me. FA block system is a joke though since you can still continue watching the artist and view their art.
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Anonymous 2019/11/26 05:58:48 No.1676630
4 pages have already been posted on e621 and yet people still bitch
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Anonymous 2019/11/27 09:53:10 No.1677005
>>1676221
Well, it's entirely her loss I guess. I can still view and save the art, none of my watchers will ever see it through my faves now, and I don't think I will join any of her monetary support systems after all.

>>1676630
It's up on FA for free. You're really not missing anything but some weird after the fact talk about consent and apparently Addy doesn't like BDSM now even though all of it was her idea? Addy deciding Dev's not a good enough lay to stick around for would be a pretty amazing plot twist. I'll root for it.
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Anonymous 2019/12/27 19:54:37 No.1690262
I wouldnt mind seeing Addy being a cocksleeve to Devon
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Anonymous 2019/12/28 00:25:22 No.1690518
This whole ending is really weird and kinda creepy and doubles down on the bondage shit being a bad move both in terms of writing and in the story. Addy and Dev never fucked before that night. Why did it need spicing up when it was a new experience to begin with? What’s with Addy acting like she’s made a mistake screwing Dev while he’s suddenly interested in her after two months of nothing and him very obviously being attracted to canines and not birds? For as much money as Sef got from this horse shit you’d think she could hire a script editor at least.
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Anonymous 2019/12/30 16:02:38 No.1691624
So who's gonna post up the last 5-9 pages here or are people just gonna keep on bitching and complaining at how "bad" this comic is
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Anonymous 2019/12/31 06:06:43 No.1691905
>>1691624
People stopped caring. I think the best you can hope for is that when the comic is 100% confirmed complete, someone will post all the missing high res pages as they close their account. Otherwise this thread is just for bitching.
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Anonymous 2020/01/01 14:50:50 No.1692476
just throwing this out there. there will be NO MORE sex scenes from their patreon OR primeleap as patreon has BANNED it according to a post they made. so if its sex you are hoping for it may not come. so in the meantime i would suggest looking at it on e621 OR wait here and hope for more stuf to be posted.
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Anonymous 2020/01/02 17:01:55 No.1693000
>>1692476
Where did they say that, I've looked over patreons tos and nothings been changed.
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Anonymous 2020/01/03 20:16:41 No.1693512
>>1693000

Patreon is increasingly becoming more strict with their ToS when it comes to NSFW stuff and now Anthro X Feral is considered beastiality on the same scale as a dude and a horse, even if the feral is sentient (Though I think feral and feral x feral are still fine). The only exception to this rule is if the feral is a mythical creatures, so dragons, gryphons, etc are fine.

She made a post about 2-3 weeks ago stating how patreon suspended them for linking to an external website to view beastiality, so they had to delete all the NSFW links from patreon, but she also went and deleted all previous pages from her primeleap page too, so if you want to pay and get the high resolution pages, you'll be extremely disappointed. She then went on to say that she won't be able to link any future NSFW pages of this comic (if there are any) on patreon in any way, shape, or form, and that she doesn't know a solution yet on how to notify patrons of new pages that are NSFW.

here's her TLDR

Patreon doesn't like sentient birds and furries fucking anymore. We can still finish the comic, and recent pages are available on PrimeLeap. Older pages are available in the usual free places. High-res access will be restored at a future date, in a place unrelated to Patreon, to people who have helped support the comic during its production (It may take a bit of time, but we will be restoring your access to those pages at some point in the future. It just won't be here, and you won't be finding out that it's ready or where it is from here.).

Edited at 2020/01/03 20:24:57
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Anonymous 2020/01/04 04:45:39 No.1693775
>>1693512
Wait Sef linked to actual bestiality but is claiming she got suspended for this comic? I’m confused by your wording.

As far as I’ve read in their TOS Patreon is fine with cartoons fucking as long as nothing is too realistic. I smell bullshit somewhere.
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Anonymous 2020/01/04 06:06:34 No.1693804
>>1693775

no, Patreon itself is now considering Anthro x Feral beastiality even though it's just cartoon drawings of sentient animals.

Patreon is very picky with their ToS and what they want associated with them. Cubs are banned on Patreon, but a cub artist still can have a patreon. They just can't post links as rewards to uncropped cub porn because they're hosting it. They also can't draw their own non patreon cub porn and have a link to patreon in their description on something like inkbunny or e621 because patreon doesn't want to be associated with it. Just as people can't post links to cub porn, Sef is no longer able to post links to NHNF when it has NSFW scenes (though there's 0 reason why she should've deleted the pages off of primeleap.) because it's technically beastiality even though it's a cartoon anthro wolf and a cartoon feral hawk.
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Anonymous 2020/01/04 08:40:20 No.1693828
So in regards to the comic... is Addy just gonna leave him blissfully unaware of the real shit they gotta deal with? (The letters) Don't like that tbh, it's not gonna be good if he finds out himself and see's what she's really hiding. ://

Edited at 2020/01/04 08:42:30
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:22:45 No.1694711
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185
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:25:23 No.1694713
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186
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:28:45 No.1694716
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187
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:31:54 No.1694719
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188
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:35:35 No.1694720
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189
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:38:24 No.1694721
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190
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:40:02 No.1694723
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191
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/05 15:44:32 No.1694724
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192
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Anonymous 2020/01/05 20:30:59 No.1694836
wow it's really been 3 years since this comic started?
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Anonymous 2020/01/06 06:09:55 No.1695009
I wrote this rewrite legitimately for myself and my own satisfaction because I was disappointed on the wasted potential for this one. But in case someone might like my written take on this comic, here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/dsleusevgd6wh0y/NHNF_Rewrite.doc/file.

Just some things changed, shortened slightly and some more sex. No need to add your comments because I won't be reading them anyway. Happy National Bird Day.
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Anonymous 2020/01/11 03:35:25 No.1698063
Might aswell give Sef the 1/4 mile Champion trophy with the amount of dragging made
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The_Hyena!CHBTxVTges 2020/01/16 22:58:36 No.1701094
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193
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Anonymous 2020/01/17 18:26:27 No.1701564
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One week later...
A:So Devon...Remember when you asked what exciting things we could come up with?
D:Yeah, what did you have in mind?
A:Well, I kinda...Met this other guy... Would you mind watching me fuck him?

Oh, wait, this is Sefeiren, not Zaush. My bad, guys.
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Anonymous 2020/01/18 23:43:40 No.1702344
>>1701564
Wouldn't mind that tbh. I'm disappointed there's nothing super kinky in this comic.
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 05:12:35 No.1706695
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new pages
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 05:16:40 No.1706699
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195
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 05:17:03 No.1706700
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You must have thought there was going to be another sex scene... hahahaa... no... now the mother is somehow involved..
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 07:57:28 No.1706721
>>1706699
>>1706700
He better have knotted her mom's cloaca within 5 pages
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 22:43:38 No.1706890
Sorry friendo, but we gotta develop their relationships ASWELL as their sexual relationships, and since we got 3 (maybe 4, postbirb could be thrown in) characters to work on, that'll be 462 pages until knot orgy
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Anonymous 2020/01/29 23:05:47 No.1706896
>>1706721
Now that's the kind of direction I would love to see this comic go.
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Anonymous 2020/01/30 02:24:35 No.1706952
Just watch as the comic officially ends on the next page or so on some bullshit cliffhanger.

Edited at 2020/01/30 02:24:49
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Anonymous 2020/01/30 02:44:56 No.1706958
>>1706952

If only we could be so lucky.

Sef is gonna draw this shit out for another 40+ pages of banal bullshit before letting it die with a whimpering 'to be continued'.
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Anonymous 2020/01/31 09:10:38 No.1707298
Someone should ask when the hell this comic is planning to have an end.. this has drawn on so long its saddening.. Sick of seeing it and would much rather see them make something else. There's slow burn and then just feeling like it's never ending what's next.. they are gonna just go through the stages of rejection from society become outcasts and have this touching story over acceptance or some crap?
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Anonymous 2020/01/31 13:17:49 No.1707339
it started in 2016 and its now 2020.

If you still have interest in this comic then its time to look at yourself on why are you still here.

Seen babies born, family die and 3 job promotions during this comic, kinda feel sad and sorry for Sef tbh, still here, drawing the same boring comic, what a life.
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Anonymous 2020/02/02 13:21:58 No.1708237
It's funny to read all the comments from peole who don't like this come, but are still here for some reason. Low IQ is a blessing for many it seems.

Can a mod delete all the useless comments please?
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Anonymous 2020/02/02 15:59:03 No.1708301
>>1708237

> can a mod delete comments i don't like please
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Anonymous 2020/02/02 16:35:58 No.1708305
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I was wondering about these two.
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Anonymous 2020/02/02 17:52:06 No.1708318
>>1708301
i don't like =/= useless
but still nice try
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Anonymous 2020/02/03 04:36:18 No.1708591
>>1708237
Start with this one, mods
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Anonymous 2020/02/03 06:42:17 No.1708649
>>1708305
Uh oh, flashbacks... or better yet.. retracting the story into the past and building up new character developments and backgrounds. This will go on for another.. hm.. 150 pages.
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Anonymous 2020/02/04 16:31:21 No.1709344
>>1708649
Hmm sure, but not right now.
Currently only about 4 pages are left for part 1. She's currently working on more Family Matters related stuff ft. Thistle
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Anonymous 2020/02/05 06:56:08 No.1709571
>>1709344

>part 1

Wait what? I haven't been keeping up but are you saying there's going to be a sequel? Ugh
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Anonymous 2020/02/05 07:33:47 No.1709583
>>1709571
With page 201, though, we've reached the end of part one of No Harm No Fowl! This has been our largest and most involved story to date; as well as our most character orientated story. It's really blown us away just how much support we've gotten with No Harm No Fowl and just how much people have responded to Devon and Addison. When we first started it, we were pretty darn nervous about if we'd even be able to finish this story. So with that, thank you all so much for supporting No Harm No Fowl! I can't express how much it means to see this comic finished and to have Devon and Addison's story told. Now I mentioned "Part 1". Does that mean there's a second part? Yes, we'd like to! Although probably not right away. It's taken us three years to get No Harm No Fowl completed - crazy, right? We'd like a break to develop where we want to go next, and other stories along the way.
>her exact words
Don't believe? Check the first "Something Different" post through YP
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Anonymous 2020/02/05 18:32:18 No.1709799
R.I.P. No Hyenas. Although it's probably for the best. Sometimes, dead is better.
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Anonymous 2020/02/05 19:03:31 No.1709806
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>>1709799
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Anonymous 2020/02/06 09:56:30 No.1710116
Lol a sequel? fucksakes man give it a break
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Anonymous 2020/02/08 00:58:33 No.1710967
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Hope they all get together again
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Anonymous 2020/02/08 07:40:35 No.1711141
>>1710967

I mean yeah, but what about some avian x ocelot tribbing or beak inserted cunnilingus? Kind of more of what we were hoping for here..
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Anonymous 2020/02/08 18:58:56 No.1711240
>>1711141

Gotta wait 200 more pages before that happens
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Anonymous 2020/02/09 00:16:30 No.1711320
Oh fuck this. The only good thing about the "sequel" is the guarantee that it'll never happen. Hopefully the return to Family Matters won't get bogged down with the "writing". That comic did more with a single dialogue free page to develop Kindle's mom's character than all of NHNF. Sef needs to work with her strengths or hire a real writer.
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Anonymous 2020/02/16 10:21:14 No.1714195
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At this point, it feels like its never going to be over. This is like a Chapter 2 moment coming up after 199 pages. Only 500 to go till Chapter 3 or whatever.
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Anonymous 2020/02/17 08:13:40 No.1714658
lol what the fuck is this trainwreck of a comic even about any more

Fucking 200 pages of 'no our relationship is so taboo literally nobody is complaining we really shouldn't fuck but lets fuck anyway' and now 'oh this other incidentally-interracial couple found a fucking phoenix' out of literally nowhere.

I think this is officially the worst plot to a furry comic I have seen so far. And I'm including the shit-leprechaun comic in that estimation.
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Anonymous 2020/02/24 09:56:08 No.1717026
>>1714658
Oh yeah i remember that comic... Really? Worst than the shit-leprechaun comic?
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Anonymous 2020/02/24 13:01:22 No.1717089
>>1717026

At least that comic had a twist ending that was totally out of left field and hilarious. This is just a boring twist out of literally nowhere after two hundred fucking pages of utter boredom and shite.
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Anonymous 2020/02/24 14:01:26 No.1717109
>>1714658
What comic?
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Anonymous 2020/02/25 17:49:18 No.1717662
I just sit here wishing this shit comic would end so they can get back to No Hyenas already.
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Anonymous 2020/02/26 08:50:38 No.1717917
Honestly I love the art, but the story is awful. I don't want to hurt the artists feelings, but this comic has been going on for so long and it seems that nothing has happened.
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Anonymous 2020/02/26 14:19:04 No.1717993
>>1717662
Unfortunately I don't think she's ever going to return to it. She's been teasing about a new feral comic on and off for a while now, and has in the past expressed boredom over No Hyenas. I'm pretty bummed about it too.
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Anonymous 2020/02/28 02:29:26 No.1718542
The artist needs to end this comic already and actually do something else for once FFS. This story was boring as hell and now she went into a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLOT right where you'd think it'd at least be an open ending.

Fuck this comic, FF was better when it actually focused on ferals fucking eachother.

Edited at 2020/02/28 02:29:45
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 06:37:53 No.1718988
I imagine this is basically what the letter is trying to show
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 06:47:03 No.1718990
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Wow, so much hate. I guess you people forgot about Shana and Justin from that photograph.

Edited at 2020/02/29 06:47:21
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 09:34:41 No.1719024
>>1718990
>Shana and Justin
Literally who? Why would I care about two characters with literally NO REAL RELEVANCE to the comic we had to sit through? We didn't even get a fucking resolution with the grumpy mother, it cut off when something ACTUALLY WAS HAPPENING in the story that could've been interesting maybe (We could actually see someone say something about Addy and Dev's relationship if it was as taboo as it's claimed, given her mother is stated to be supposedly a rough one, it'd be like how some interracial couples are judged by their parents for instance, would've added some relatable drama to this snorefest). But nah it shifts to sudden supernatural elements that had nothing linked to the story a completely different story and what's worse is there's a PART TWO WE WILL HAVE TO SIT THROUGH AGAIN.

It's no wonder I forgot who they were because it's been so long since they were mentioned if so. They were brought up once and then never again. We never even found out what happened to them because of their relationship. Killing a fire phoenix and going to a portal is irrelevant to the story. Outside that we had to sit through like a hundred more pages of Addy and Dev.

So, as stated, fuck this comic. FF should've went with something else. I would've liked to see the foodog and dragon, or the kitsunes, but that chance is lost now.

Edited at 2020/02/29 11:13:31
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 10:04:44 No.1719027
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Four years and 201 pages later.... its ONLY the end of PART ONE! Where the fuck is this comic going anymore?
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 10:33:00 No.1719040
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SEF IS DOING SOMETHING NEW

NO HARM NO FOWL IS KILL

MAY IT NEVER COME BACK FOR CHAPTER TWO

HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH!!!
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 12:00:35 No.1719049
I learned so much from this comic, everything not to do.
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 12:19:46 No.1719051
I'm happy when part 2 is coming.
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 14:39:51 No.1719078
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>>1719027
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 14:44:13 No.1719081
>>1719024
In the meantimetime, Fuck your comment and fuck your insult towards the artist. I bet with your exception, there were people here who wondered what happened to Shana and Justin.
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 20:26:14 No.1719179
>>1719081
lol considering how many people are celebrating the comic finally ending (in a cynical way), I'd say you're the exception, not him.

For the record, I voted for this comic way back in the day. My reasoning was that I wanted to see a big anthro wolf fuck a non-anthro bird. Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined it'd be dragged out so hard. But to anyone wishing they'd gone with one of the other ideas instead, who's to say that also wouldn't have been dragged out with unnecessary bullshit? I think this was inevitable regardless of which subject was picked. Sef has issues with closing out a story clearly. And it didn't help that when Prime Leap started, she had to start cutting up single image panels to work with the site's DRM. That likely also bloated the amount of pages since 1 panel became 2 or 3 in order to increase the amount of moving parts the site could manipulate.

All in all, every one of the comic's issues are directly a result of Sef's poor decisions, not the subject matter itself.
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Anonymous 2020/02/29 21:31:35 No.1719195
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>>1719081
I voted for this comic and I paid for this comic for a couple of years. I still don't know why I'm still paying, hopefully Something Different is as good as Family Matters, but I should've stopped for the rest of this lame as fuck comic. Anyways, that's not the point. I have no clue who those two adventurers were. For that I know, this was about a bird and a wolf going through a rough time to come to terms with their interspecies relationship, but it was pretty much wasted potential with scenes going on for 15+ pages at a time when they could've ended in a max of 2-3 pages, the sexual stuff was pretty mediocre outside the blowjob scene, and this ending is more of an ass pull than FF13's ending. Not to mention we got butchered art pinups as a part of the comic panels that ruined a lot of them.

Still can't trust this site, so here's what I'm talking about based on the free pages. Now just imagine seeing most of devon's ass while he was doing this, along with full bodied pinups of him cumming in her mouth without that stupid bird blind on. If we were to have gotten those and a lot of other full bodied pinups for the sex scenes, this comic would've been worth it more despite it having a slow story. In fact, it could have even paired well with it to make the scenes more believable. I mean, if she releases them now, I'd still be happy, but if she's going to keep them to herself, then what's even the point of going through the effort of making them only to barely show them? And before you ask that it's just a coincidence with the amalgamation, I've seen several of the full body pinups when she streamed back in may. She sketches out the sex scenes in a full body manner then mutilates them to fit the text onto the panels or some small closeups.
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Anonymous 2020/03/01 04:54:12 No.1719325
>>1719195

Sef was doing it because A) has no fucking idea how to draw a comic.

Or B) was doing it for the DRM. It's very well known they used sliding image elements as DRM and the only way that works is if more of the image is drawn than what is shown in each panel.

There was a retarded justification Sef used for switching to primeleap and upping prices, and it was like 'waaah I spend 50 hours a week working on this comic'. 50 hours a fucking week and all they have to show for it is ONE PAGE A WEEK. Because they do this horrifically inefficient shit of drawing a giant pin up image for each and every single panel and then just chopping it up.

Maybe they're actually dumb enough to think that that is how most artists draw comics?
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Anonymous 2020/03/01 11:53:38 No.1719443
200 pages and for what? Minimal world building where nearly everything we know is simply implied with no known repercussions and almost no character development what so ever. Take away the one sided foreplay that was the fingering scene, how much of this comic was actually sex and the rest a bunch of fluff and exposition that meant nothing because it took place in the middle of literally bum fuck nowhere where it didn't matter? This comic could have easily been compressed into 20 pages or so where its just the whole "our love is forbidden in this world where birds are feral for some reason and anthro/feral relationships are shunned" followed by their long history together and living in the middle of nowhere near literally nobody just leading them to not give a fuck.

And now what? Another 200 page comic about this chick and her bird in whatever dimension they've landed themselves into? I don't think literally anybody expected this to take this much time or be this god damn long from a vote on the next porn comic. Pretty sure sef wants this to be their magnum opus even though it probably needs another like, 200 pages of exposition that takes place BEFORE the start of this comic, but I doubt anyone would want to put up with another 5 years to have that happen.
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Anonymous 2020/03/01 20:05:25 No.1719602
Reminder that primeleap is a website that requires being registered, which is a MASSIVE security issue if it ever gets hacked. Which i'm baffled nobody did yet.

And thank god this is finished. 3 years of dragging out zoophilia with a burd.
Hopefully he wont pull up the same shit with the new comic. This was disgusting.
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Anonymous 2020/03/04 04:17:04 No.1720521
>>1719602
If you think zoophilia is the main issue with this shitty comic then you may be in the wrong place bud.
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Anonymous 2020/03/08 06:06:10 No.1722166
can someone explain the ending to me?
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Anonymous 2020/03/08 09:25:23 No.1722204
>>1722166
I don't think even Sef could do that.
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Anonymous 2020/03/08 12:56:17 No.1722273
>>1722166
we basically just dropped devon and addy for a couple that's pretty much the exact same with reversed genders and a cat instead of a wolf who isolated themselves long ago because of the social taboos who I guess were looking for a place where they could openly love each other and found a portal to another dimension or some garbage like that. It's basically a plot so sef can continue milking this concept by drawing out another 200+ pages with different characters so people don't complain that addy and devon don't fuck enough.
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Anonymous 2020/03/22 02:49:35 No.1727480
I honestly think you guys are complaining too much over a 200 page comic...
THAT YOU GET TO VIEW FOR FREE!
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Anonymous 2020/03/22 09:23:11 No.1727537
GRR HOW DARE WE HAVE OPINIONS OVER A COMIC THAT HAS DRAWN ON FOR AN UNGODLY AMOUNT OF TIME ONLY FOR PURPOSEFULLY MILKING ITS FANBASE. How dare we voice said opinion!
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Anonymous 2020/03/23 04:37:34 No.1727911
>>1727537
See? That was your first mistake. Having an opinion.
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Anonymous 2020/03/23 08:43:04 No.1727970
Does this comic really have that much of a fanbase? Feel like classic Zaush effect, you might like the art but not really how the artist handle it.
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Anonymous 2020/03/23 10:27:52 No.1728011
>>1727970

It got voted for because it had the most interesting concept, and people did sort of like it at the start, but people stopped liking it very quickly when it was clear this was primarily a SFW forbidden love drama that came out too slowly. Some of the sex scenes were good I guess, but the people who followed this comic as a fan were the type of people who just praise every piece of work done by an artist they like. In other words, a brown noser.
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Anonymous 2020/03/24 00:51:05 No.1728325
And in regards to Zaush, his art style is excellent, but damn as his content been wack for the longest time, what he makes is just not interesting anymore. Fuck his tribal shit.
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Anonymous 2020/03/24 19:11:13 No.1728677
>>1728325
Well then royal fuck you too, I love his tribal shit.
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Anonymous 2020/03/26 07:49:54 No.1729426
I voted for it just because I wanted to see the wolf fucking the turkey. The concept was just a hot scene of him fingering the hell out of her but I guess they decided to focus on the whole fucking stupid taboo that was on the voting description instead of the actual sex. This comic is just sadly dumb. Next time voting on the lesbian one.
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Anonymous 2020/03/28 07:52:18 No.1730237
We're already like 20 pages in the next project, why is no one uploading that in a new thread?
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Anonymous 2020/05/01 11:15:53 No.1746944
...... This thread is so big my device burns by clicking reply
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Anonymous 2020/05/02 00:10:37 No.1747302
>>1730237
Cause so far it looks even more boring than this comic and will likely get drawn out for another 100+ pages too.
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Anonymous 2020/05/04 11:35:41 No.1748533
Wats the new comic/project
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Anonymous 2020/05/04 11:43:51 No.1748536
>>1747302

You fucking wot m8?

The other comic has had more worldbuilding, sex, character development, and plot than this piece of shit has had in a hundred pages.
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Bottomofthethreads FFSwhereisthesage! 2020/05/08 00:15:49 No.1750691
Just an fyi a mini comic with ACTUAL FUCKIN DRAGONS AND NOT SHITTY BIRD AND DOG smut is being made. If anybody would be willing to stick it to her and post whats been made so far that would be great.
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The Bayonetta fan 2020/05/09 17:54:52 No.1751824
Hmmm I wish I knew what it was called though and I'm calling myself The Bayonetta fan
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Anonymous 2020/05/23 08:42:30 No.1757865
https://e621.net/pools/19835

Enjoy!
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Anonymous 2020/06/14 04:58:36 No.1767694
anyone have the whole thing in one download?
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Anonymous 2021/01/09 04:03:12 No.1877484
>>1750691
To be fair all 20 or 30 pages that had bird and dog smutt were fucking great and exactly what was wanted.
But the comic was a slow burn, and had fuck all in terms of actual story and progression in the non-fucking bits. So it failed as porn and as a serious story. I wish there was an abridged version of just the bird porn.
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Anonymous 2021/01/11 01:22:11 No.1878575
>>1877484
I think waiting page after page made it even slower than the actual pacing. Taken as a whole the story has alot of potential. Social acceptance of mixed couples doesn't seem to be a standard in the world here. The challenges they face adds gravitas to their bond. I like backstory before the action. I think it's why fanfic hentai is popular, people have an emotional connection already built. Original work that builds a connection is better than just having the bird stuffed.

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