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Zillford thread 2017/11/25 23:43:33 No.1353034   
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Anybody got access?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 23:57:16 No.1353036
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That Patreon's been dead for over 2 years.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 23:57:18 No.1353037
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 23:57:19 No.1353038
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 23:57:21 No.1353039
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 23:57:22 No.1353040
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 09:03:13 No.1353124
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Shame he turned out to be a scammer.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 09:47:27 No.1353127
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>>1353124
Elaborate.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 10:29:54 No.1353140
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>>1353127

He launched his Patreons, went silent for over a year, came back and promised to make up for lost time and do regular streams, kept it up for about a month then vanished entirely again. It's been a good two years since them. He doesn't go to cons, doesn't respond to messages, doesn't stream, his Patreons are comatose and lots of paid work went undelivered.

People tell me they have direct lines to him, but I'm suspect. (I also have reason to believe he might have fallen into some kind of addiction. I don't know anything specific.)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 19:25:02 No.1353287
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>>1353140
He also had a kickstarter for a comic before that and never went through with it and of course never gave a refund. Then to rub salt in the wound, he started a patreon to keep working on it
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 19:33:42 No.1353288
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Hey I should clarify some things for people just so they get the true story down.

I was connected heavily to Zillford and chatted with him on a regular basis. I know the real reason why he quit doing Patreon and dropped off the internet.
Zillford just got really depressed and suffers from really bad depression that has gone unchecked for a while now. At the time of Patreon he was very disappointed in the amount of patrons he had and the massive art block he was soon getting to the point he just couldn't bare the pressure anymore so he quit.

He always wanted to come back to the spotlight again and always wanted to draw but with how poor he was and how depressed he was. He just simply couldn't manage to support himself so he just left the internet entirely so he could fix himself and his issues.

To clarify. No he's not a scammer he simply just has bad social skills and presence to interact with people. He did smoke pot and he has said to me that Pot affected him and his ability to draw art for others and all.

I know it's not the answer you guys probably wanted to hear and even if I tried to talk to him we haven't spoken in months so I have no idea what he's been up to. But I do know it was never intentional to screw everyone over. I know his financial situation got bad and his mental health took a nose dive as he had to rush to the hospital for his medical issues and all. He basically lived semi homeless couch surfing during the Patreon days.

Another was that he might have had unchecked Autism that never got checked out and as an adult basically suffers from that to where he can't work a normal job due to that mental illness never being properly educated in him.

Anyway that's the truth. All I'll reveal but just thought I toss this info in here because I just got tired of people making comments of him being a scammer when he's really just a nice dude that couldn't handle taking care of himself and made promises he couldn't keep which was reckless and foolish but he even in the last time we contacted with eachother showed immense guilt in just abandoning everyone in the internet as he felt like a failure hard.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 21:35:21 No.1353316
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>>1353288
Real shame when a good artist becomes inactive.
There have been other artists who used to be rather active that have become close to nonexistent nowadays. Wolfynail used to post often in years past, but now only once in a blue moon.

Then there are the artists whose artwork takes a very different turn. Meesh used to produce alot of female/male comics and solo pics, but now his comics have been just male/male and his solo pics are about 70% gay, 30% straight. There's also the artists who done nice work in the beginning, but then deviated into the bizarre and WTF territories. Those situations tend to be more annoying since there's already more than of that kind of crap being flooded everywhere.

Then there are guys like Jay Naylor, who have their heads shoved way up their own ass.

So yeah, it's always a sad thing to lose a good artist for whatever reason.

Edited at 2017/11/26 22:02:33
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 23:52:32 No.1353337
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>>1353316
Oh yeah I completely understand it's frustrating.
Even with how close I was with him he still wanted his private life and you know how internet culture can be. once someone just logs off you are cut off from a good portion of their lives until they choose to log back in.

I miss the dude and he was genuinely a very nice guy to hang out with and it's a shame people took to calling him a scammer when really life just gave him bad luck and that was that.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 00:18:53 No.1353345
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>>1353337
Is there any way to provide some kind of help or motivation?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 00:58:13 No.1353353
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>>1353345
Not that I know if, he hasn't contacted me in ages so I have no real clue. I mean, if we all showed him that we miss him sure but I know that'll be useless by this point.

Only hope is he solves issues in his life and comes right back. I only commented to try my best to defuse the rumor that he's just some typical scammer.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 08:02:24 No.1353436
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Zillford more or less when dark after scamming a load of people on Kickstarter. he did a Patreon but when one of the Kickstarter backers called him out on it he just disappeared.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 10:37:28 No.1353487
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>>1353436
But that's nothing. That's one angry dude who tried to cause a shitstorm without fully knowing.

Yes he had a kickstarter but when that failed because he barely had enough to make profit which happens when you start a new business it's a risk. Now he's a scammer? Please quit this rumor. This dude called out zillford why? Because a business he was trying to start up failed how's that fair?

I wish it was that easy to just say oh he's a scammer but none of you realized the dude was sleeping on a couch near homeless when he started. He was desperate for cash and even at its height it only was racking in a few hundred dollars top. Barely enough to feed the dude and you call him a scammer? Sure bad with business modeling probably but that rumor is so ignorant that's why I'm commenting to hopefully stop people from saying that.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 14:19:42 No.1353713
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No matter what you say hes still a scammer..guilty people always try to disappear
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 15:27:50 No.1353739
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>>1353713
I also gave him money for his projects too. If he scammed you then he scammed me but we were in constant communication for ages even during the patreon days.

I gave you an answer and the truth. I can't help it if you got hurt and are upset but until you prove better evidence then what I said go ahead. Until then be a bitch ass nigga and whine more proving why everyone hates furries for a reason.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 16:56:42 No.1353760
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>>1353487
Say what you want, the fact of the matter is he sold something on Kickstarter (I liked him and our interactions and wanted to help him so I bought in), abandoned it without refunding anyone then had the balls to put up a patreon to give him money to keep working on something that already met its original funding goal. The fact that he's in a bad financial situation doesn't change the fact that he's taken money for a comic from people that wanted to help him, took commissions and never delivered after being paid.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 17:22:53 No.1353769
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he personally scammed me out of $45 of commissions that he owes me, but after all this time I know I will never get the money or the art from a con artist like him.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 17:54:52 No.1353804
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so the guy took money, and ran and there's a dickhead here trying to imply thats not scamming?

Christ wept go home.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 05:56:10 No.1354184
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I know of a similar artist that did this. But didn't go to the full monty to get money. Pornography, yes that is his artist name, was also dealing with some major mental illness that causes short term memory, and was also mostly homeless. Didn't contact me for about a year or so. I paid for about 30 dollars for a commission. FINALLY he got back on and asked me what I commissioned him for, so I basically gave him the Watchdogs 2 album download to listen to while he worked on my stuff. It turned out decent, like something you would see on an album cover. Point is: Some people with depression or a mental illness is something you gotta be patient about. No they don't deserve all the backlash they get so... yeah. You lost money, I thought I did too. Just hold out hope for those guys.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 13:49:52 No.1354284
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>>1354184

1. Anyone can claim they have brain aids
2. Nobody cares
3. Oh boy a sparkle winged mammal murrsona
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 09:42:42 No.1354690
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You know, part of me is tempted to side with the people lambasting Zillford and anybody who tries to defend him, but another part of me is inclined to openly mock you and those people in a manner along the lines of:

"Duhh, look at me, I'm a narrow-minded little cuntfucklet who'd rather stick my fingers in my ears and launch shit at Zillford's defenders than listen to an alternate argument, because I'm such a petulant little fuckshit that I'll never consider the possibility that Zillford has genuine IRL problems when it's so much easier to dismiss him as a scammer."

Seriously, how big of a bunch of douchebags are you people that you jump straight to the conclusion of "BUHH HEZ A SCAMMUR" when an artist goes silent while they still owe people money? Zillford could very well have legitimate IRL problems.

In regards to the "he shut down his patreon when called out about his owed commissions" stuff, can you people use your brains for something besides a buttplug? When you're dealing with issues in real life and they're stressing you out, do you seriously think to yourself 'boy, what I really need right now is for someone to give me grief over the work I still owe people online to stress me out even more'?

Zillford could've easily shut down the Patreon in response to being called out of distress, or so that any preexisting stress he might have over his IRL problems wouldn't be compounded by people shitting on him for the commissioned work he still owes.

But then, who am I kidding? You guys will probably just respond to this with more indignant bitching about how "BUHH HEZ A SCAMMUR, STAHP TRYNA DIFEND HIM U CUCK" or something similar. That seems to be about your speed, intellectually.

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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 21:14:15 No.1354898
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>>1354690
No one is saying he doesn't have legit problems. Just that it's insanely shitty to take money from people and never bother to even give them an update as to what's going on. When someone takes people's money and vanishes, people have every right to assume that they've just been scammed and that's it. I know he sure never tried to contact anyone that was a part of his kickstarter when he came back after disappearing for over a year and didn't bother even putting an update about it before immediately opening a patreon to keep working on it. No matter how you try to dress it up or excuse it, that's just bullshit.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 21:39:13 No.1354899
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He has some bad issues, but fact remains people paid him for shit they never got.

It doesn't matter how many problems he has and what his intentions were, that's a scam, whether he meant to or not.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 22:59:33 No.1354909
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True, he made a dumb move and a bad call to accept money from people just when shit hit the fan for him irl.

The dude that made the original post about Zillford here. If you guys want to know I personally gave him over 400 dollars to help himself out and get his stuff in order, but ultimately he just wasn't that good with money or seeking help for himself due to his conditions he had.

I mean my theory is he had mental issues for years that into his adulthood finally caught up with him and he just couldn't manage. Last time we did chat there was mention of antidepressants so I figure depression played a huge role in his decision making and just plain not taking care of himself better when he shouldn't have taken more coms and create even MORE debt pile.

Sorry you guys got hurt and sorry it happened. But to just say he's a scammer is very much just the tip of the iceburg and really a petty thing to go on about.

Zill is a nice guy he really is, I wouldn't just give him money if it was just some scammer. Just autism and depression got the better of him and he had to leave the internet world.

That's the truth and I personally interacted with him. If someone else can come out and say otherwise go right ahead but other than that guys this thread is pretty much dead.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/30 02:06:43 No.1354945
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So what condition does he have? Everyone says he has one but no one seems to know what it is... you'd think if he accepted money, he'd be a little more open about it...
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Furrynomous 2017/11/30 03:46:56 No.1354988
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>>1354945
He have "depression" basically he is an "artist" so he cant get normal job so he have no money so he is depressed so he cant work coz he is depressed and that's making him depressed and coz of that he have depression.

I think any artist that pull this shit up blame everything at depression - its the easiest way. Also i think problem here is that he didynt even say sorry or explain himself in any way. Im sure that after the kickstarter fiasco he would post a simple "i fucked up, sorry" people would react in a difrent way.

I wonder why almost 80% of artist have "depression" hmm... maybe if they get off the high horse and got a normal job and treat art as a hobby or additional source of income they would not live as "almost homeless" and had less financial problems. But hey! the hundreds of thousands of them think that art can be they future and that they can live from drawing mouse pussies and dicks on girls but only one in those 100000 can actually do it.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/30 09:36:27 No.1355040
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>>1354988

Sounds like someone is mad he can't get free art from artists.
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Furrynomous 2019/07/11 22:08:11 No.1612646
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was this all the stuff he ever put on patreon?
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Furrynomous 2019/07/12 08:49:15 No.1612848
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Theres a little more but its not much. Real shame. I think this guy had a genuine style, really took from comics in a way msot people dont. You either have really looney tunes esque furry stuff or anime inspired stuff like shonuff. Its not bad but its so played out. Zillford had a real passion for it and it sucks hes basically gone.
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Furrynomous 2019/07/12 20:53:11 No.1613928
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This is always the slippery argument that comes up far too regularly with artists. It seems every other artist has a "mental disorder" of some sort, and this can conveniently avoiding meeting commissions or delaying releases. Obviously many people have a legitimate issue but the stats suggest the sheer level of people suggesting "depression, ADHD, schizophrenia, etc." who produce art when compared to the normal populous is just way out of wack.

Maybe Zillford does have medical depression, but very unlikely a 24/7/365 issue (it is extremely rare, and those people don't usually live past 25). Even with legit depression, I have enough relatives and friends with it to know it is extremely restrictive but they aren't crippled for years and don't get to leave work while keeping the wage. If Zillford did have a bad bout, they would have come out of it after a number of months and should've finished their paid commissions and slowed requests until they were fulfilled. And obviously if it's event depression or emotional depression (aka lost family member, being dumped) then several years without rectifying the issue is bullshit. As seen, Zillford didn't just fail to meet existing promises, they asked for more money for them, and then proceeded to not produce them even after that.

And to people saying "don't call Zillford a scammer", while it can't be proven that Zillford is faking depression there is no way to prove it other than a published doctor's cert. Since that isn't there, the sheer length of time to correct the issue for a conditions that either should have period of non-depression (medical) or a depression that should've been overcome (event/emotional) does suggest the depression is being used as an excuse. So several failed promises that cost people money on the excuse of a 3+ year depression bout, and people here feel fine saying "don't call him a scammer, you guys are so impatient for your 1,2,3+ year old commissions you paid good money for that Zillford shows no sign of completing even now because of his ludicrous 3 year depression bout.... you guys are such entitled children". Many people can have legit issues, but there comes a point to quote the story "The Artist Who Cried Depression",

Edited at 2019/07/12 21:03:27

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