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Abe Rape by Artdecade Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:39:46 No.1143292   
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:40:13 No.1143294
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:40:29 No.1143295
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:41:04 No.1143296
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:41:43 No.1143297
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:42:12 No.1143298
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:42:59 No.1143299
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:43:29 No.1143300
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:43:51 No.1143301
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:44:26 No.1143302
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:44:53 No.1143303
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:45:14 No.1143304
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:45:45 No.1143305
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:46:00 No.1143306
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:46:26 No.1143307
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:46:43 No.1143308
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:47:01 No.1143309
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:47:17 No.1143310
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:47:36 No.1143311
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:47:59 No.1143312
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:48:19 No.1143313
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:48:38 No.1143314
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:49:06 No.1143315
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:49:30 No.1143316
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/02 21:49:55 No.1143317
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 00:15:07 No.1143348
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I uh, kinda regret reading this.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 00:15:38 No.1143349
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scratch that, I very regret reading this
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Furrynomous 2016/09/03 00:40:09 No.1143352
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>>1143348
They're missing the page where all of this turns out to be a porn shoot. Still doesn't make it less disturbing.
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/03 02:09:23 No.1143388
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Abe Rape Furrynomous 2016/09/03 02:09:44 No.1143389
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 03:45:43 No.1146401
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hmmm seems he regrets doing this comic
(full context of thread found here)

https://twitter.com/artdecaderoo/status/771425056366792704
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Rags 2016/09/08 06:02:24 No.1146442
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Holy shit, ArtDecade is a fucking SJW tool. Damn...I pay for ArtDecadeMonthly and...now I'm seriously considering going without. I'll probably cancel my subscription.

What a fucking fool.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 06:15:08 No.1146444
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It's called fucking porn, man his audience is SJW-central, some people look up rape shit like that imagining being the victim, those people on Twitter are like the thought police jumping in all like "no your preferences are not okay", ridiculous.

Edited at 2016/09/08 06:17:31
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/08 07:43:22 No.1146456
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>>1146442
>>1146444

>gators desperate enough to see discomfort at rape comics as "sjw"

How pathetic. But funny
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 07:58:59 No.1146457
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>>1146456
>They have different views than me? must be muh EVIL INTERNET BOOGEYMAN!

Edited at 2016/09/08 08:01:48
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 08:27:05 No.1146460
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>>1146401
This exact reason is why I avoid finding people's opinions. Love his art but what a fucking idiot.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/08 09:53:04 No.1146482
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>>1146457

Ironic you say that. But I suppose I should expect that from a weaboo.

>>1146460

Having regrets is being an idiot now, appearently
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 10:00:04 No.1146490
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>>1146457
>use the term sjw
>accuse other people of boogeymaning
>top with smug anime

Standard gator shit.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 10:23:57 No.1146494
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>>1146442

You triggered, bro?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 11:13:21 No.1146543
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So artdecade made a rape comic as a commission because he needed money. Kinda sad how people will take the opportunity to pay an artist to do something disturbing leaving the artist into a moral situation whether is right for the sake of surviving another day or refuse and hoping something better comes. I can't blame artdecade for agreeing into doing this then again AD sometimes acts pretentious like he can't do any wrong and that rubs me the wrong way but I don't wish him the worse, I'll let him stand on his soapbox and say whatever he wants to say alone, at least I can still enjoy his art although is bland nowadays
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al baghDADDY Furrynomous 2016/09/08 11:41:35 No.1146567
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>>1146482
you do realize Artdecade himself is a japanofile , which yess is different from a weaboo but he does border inbetween as seen in his work style."

but anyway I dont think the other person was referring to his regrets but rather his opinions well not even that... the way he presents them...hes essentially a leftist version of conservatard Cigarskunk.
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al baghDADDY Furrynomous 2016/09/08 12:00:29 No.1146574
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>>1146543

Oh poppyCOCK
he only claims to regret it now for the sake of argument he and his bf (who still does) willingly has done cub porn,In some of his images theres once in a while images with implied coercion.

which yeah its pixels or lines on a paper... whatever but with tweets in the past wheres hes said..or questioned that violence in media "normalizes" violence therefore implying it has a effect on a lot of people..then what does drawing art that sexualizes anthroporphic underaged children and adolescence do? Has he ever questioned what production or "absorbtion" of media may do based on his own logic?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 12:31:57 No.1146581
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>>1146574
Not to mention comics like Luck of Fools and Threshold, which include rape, dismemberment, and murder.

AD is easily my favorite furry porn artist but I don't bother reading his Twitter.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 12:37:08 No.1146582
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>>1146401
>>1146442
It's a shame y-gallery got destroyed because I distinctly remember he had a gore rape picture on there
1. that wasn't a commission, and
2. where in the description he admitted that "drawing violent rape calms [him] down" (paraphrased)

From this I've deduced that he's a hypocrite, he doesn't ACTUALLY regret drawing stuff like this, and that he's not nearly as "SJW" (ワロス) as you think he is
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al baghDADDY Furrynomous 2016/09/08 12:57:11 No.1146588
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TRIGGER WARNING: Rape and gore

>>1146582
You mean like this gem here? its still on his old fa gallery
simply go here* and work ur way up theres other cub, gore, rape pieces there to that were obviously made on his own leisure back then ..and surely his indulgence in this has never made him want to murder torture and rape children...as far I know...

* http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/artdecade/11/
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 13:22:07 No.1146591
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>>1146582
>An sjw used to be the very thing they rail against
Literally every time. It's like it's some form of repentance for their naughty thoughts
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al baghDADDY Furrynomous 2016/09/08 13:46:12 No.1146594
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oh...and the cherry on top this shitcake is said commissioner of this comic is a raging conservative heh
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 14:24:33 No.1146600
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>>1146574
yeah, this is why i don't know where I stand in, for this situation. I said a lot of stupid things in the past and also do and draw things I regret now, would that made me a hypocrite if I say I don't do and said the same things as before or that I changed my mind about things?

Also how stupid to say videogames normalize violence. Man, when furries gets into politics or social related topics, is always a clusterfuck.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 14:45:41 No.1146605
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>>1146600
It's not furries, it's just people that have drank the social justice kool-aid.

Saying shit like "videogames normalize violence" is putting the cart before the horse. People seek out experiences that they want. That kind of thinking is indicative of the current wave of social justice ideology, where we are all tabula rasae subject to the merciless hands of our media. It's nonsense.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/08 15:43:52 No.1146629
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>>1146605

That's nothing new, but frankly true anyways. Gamers (and comic book fans) always get triggered when people do in fact point out that their hobbies are strongly correlated with violence and psychopathic behaviour
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/08 15:44:43 No.1146632
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>>1146594

>whore also happens to be a conservatard

Not sure if sad or appropriate.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 16:14:31 No.1146642
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>>1146629

Right, like how being a furry is strongly correlated with bestiality and sexual deviancy.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 16:54:41 No.1146652
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>>1146629
>strongly correlated with violence and psychopathic behaviour
This is the literal opposite of the truth. People have been doing for scientific studies for years trying to prove this. The evidence is simply not there and in some rare cases the inverse is shown. That gaming provides an outlet to work out bad thoughts.
So take your lies elsewhere
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:00:14 No.1146656
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Quick! In case the mods come by. Here is the official discussion thread
https://u18chan.com/board/u18chan/d/topic/1146654
Take refuge here

Edited at 2016/09/08 17:01:24
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:05:12 No.1146657
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>games correlate with violent behaviour

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/12/study-finds-no-evidence-violent-video-games-make-children-aggres/

>“Taken together, this suggests that quantity may play a larger role than the quality of games played — a counter intuitive finding for many focused on the violent contents of some gaming contexts,” the paper concludes.

>It adds: “These findings do not support the idea that regular violent game play is linked to real world violence or conflict.”

First link on google. And I'm not triggered by people saying video games correlate with violence, if anything I'm triggered by people lying or talking out of there ass.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:09:52 No.1146659
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>>1146490
I didn't use the term SJW you fucking wacko.

YOU HALLUCINATING NIGGA!

Edited at 2016/09/08 17:13:09
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:15:42 No.1146662
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:23:15 No.1146664
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Man, ya'll don't seem to understand what "normalize" means. Of course violent video games normalize violence. Did you get grossed out or shocked or excited at blood and gore when you first started playing violent video games but now it doesn't do anything to you? That's what "normalize" means you fucking idiots.

Whether or not that's a bad thing is debatable but whether or not violent media "normalizes" violence is 100% not, it is an objective fact.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:33:55 No.1146666
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>>1146664
It doesn't. All fictional violence does is normalize fictional violence. It does not normalize real life violence.
Learn the difference between reality and fantasy like the rest of civilized society.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:42:40 No.1146669
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>>1146666

Still misinterpreting. Again, there's no evidence of violent media causing real life violence, but normalization is an objective fact and every paper done on the subject agrees with me, not you. Prove me wrong and find me just one paper that disagrees.

Seriously, we all know this even if you don't realize it. People who view a lot of internet porn (for example, us) will gravitate towards more weird or extreme fetishes over time because vanilla stuff doesn't get us off any more. Everyone knows that, and it's a clear example of media normalizing something in our everyday lives.

Edited at 2016/09/08 17:42:53
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:50:47 No.1146671
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>>1146669

I play Mortal Kombat on the reg. Turning my enemies into pretty little giblets is hilarious. Real life gore makes me weak in the knees. I can't stand seeing exposed broken bones or pictures of people who take krokodil. Similarly, the thought of killing an actual person makes my palms sweaty.

Compartmentalization is a thing. Understanding the difference between reality and fantasy is a thing. These don't magically go away when we talk about normalizing violence.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 17:53:02 No.1146673
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>>1146669
I'm not misinterpreting anything. You're trying to mask your real implications by using words like 'normalize' but your bullshit doesn't work here.
We all know that your end conclusion is that "bad thoughts lead to bad actions" Because people like you love to thought police.
>>1146657
This kind gentleman already linked an article with the only conclusion you need
>This was then compared with data on youth violence during the same years, with the study finding a correlation between falling youth violence and the popularity of violent games."
This is over. You have nothing to stand on. Get out.
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hello artdecade! 2016/09/08 17:54:53 No.1146675
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>>1146664
Hey there artdecade

No one is objecting whether games or other media normalize violence (and sex for that matter), numbnuts.


but the implication , the context behind that quote which its pretty obvious the whole correlation of violent behavior with violence found in media..

.. I suppose then indulgence and production of drawing of anthropomorphic animal-children being fucked by adults `"normalizes" such acts of kiddie fucking..right ? or is another standard applied here?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 18:05:43 No.1146679
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>>1146671

>We all know that your end conclusion is that "bad thoughts lead to bad actions" Because people like you love to thought police.

I said twice that there's no evidence that violent media leads to violence. You still don't know what normalize means. I'm not saying that violent media will make you violent. I don't believe that and anyone who does is stupid.

>>1146673

>I play Mortal Kombat on the reg. Turning my enemies into pretty little giblets is hilarious. Real life gore makes me weak in the knees. I can't stand seeing exposed broken bones or pictures of people who take krokodil. Similarly, the thought of killing an actual person makes my palms sweaty.

>Compartmentalization is a thing. Understanding the difference between reality and fantasy is a thing. These don't magically go away when we talk about normalizing violence.

I get that this is how it is for you but for most people violence and gore in the media makes it more tolerable when they see it in real life. Again I don't even think it's a bad thing, it can totally be a good thing if you see someone getting stabbed and instead of vomiting everywhere or going into shock you collect yourself and call an ambulance. Normalization is still something that happens.

>>1146675

>No one is objecting whether games or other media normalize violence (and sex for that matter), numbnuts.

>but the implication , the context behind that quote which its pretty obvious the whole correlation of violent behavior with violence found in media..

He literally said in the tweet that violent media doesn't cause violence. You and I agree, you need some better reading comprehension if you think we don't.

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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 20:10:15 No.1146720
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>I get that this is how it is for you but for most people violence and gore in the media makes it more tolerable when they see it in real life

Citation needed. Like that guy above, I squirm when I see real life violence and cannot even look at real gore pictures even though I've been ripping arms off in video games and have been watching people be decapitated in movies since elementary school.

>Normalization is still something that happens.

Whether or not that is true, if we assume that this is the case, and we know that an increase of video games consumption doesn't increase violent tendencies of, nor decrease empathy in regards to real life instances of violence in consumers, how is then "normalization of violence" in any way shape or form an issue, when it clearly has no negative consequences on the population at large?

Maybe YOU don't intend to say that "normalization" is a negative effect, which would be fine, but most people using the term "normalization" are heavily implying it, otherwise they wouldn't see it as a big issue to rally against - see conservative morons and hipster troglodytes in regards to "normalization of violence", and retarded feminists in regards to "normalization of sexism". Neither of these groups do ever say that it "causes" stuff to happen, only that it "normalizes" it and that that's terrible for society without ever explaining why and even mountain of evidence proving the opposite.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 20:18:56 No.1146723
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>>1146720

>Whether or not that is true, if we assume that this is the case, and we know that an increase of video games consumption doesn't increase violent tendencies of, nor decrease empathy in regards to real life instances of violence in consumers, how is then "normalization of violence" in any way shape or form an issue, when it clearly has no negative consequences on the population at large?

I already said I DON'T think it's a negative. In the exact comment you are replying to. God this conversation is annoying. This is what I get for arguing with anonymous randos on a furry porn image board.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 20:31:07 No.1146726
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>>1146723
>Make retarded argument
>Get called out
>Try to bullshit out of it
>Get called out
>Whine
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Furrynomous 2016/09/08 20:42:14 No.1146728
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>>1146726

>Incapable of reading
>Can somehow still type

Pretty impressive, actually.
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Kimimaru3391 2016/09/08 23:35:50 No.1146789
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>>1146720
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(sociology)

Definition for that word. You are just dumb.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 00:33:24 No.1146815
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Normalization doesn't quite translate from fantasy to reality quite as well as SJW's and Feminists like to think. I mean... Getting into a gunfight isn't as fun as games like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto make it out to be... Seriously! Has any of these fuckers ever shot a gun? They're fucking loud!

Some of them, depending on the gun; can hurt just to fire. The heavier ones are hard to aim, the muzzle flash can be quite blinding at night. And with your life actually on the line, it has this rather amazing effect on a person that is called "Sheer mother fucking TERROR!". And even if you survive, a prolonged battle could lead to severe hearing loss, and that's if you're lucky!

Shew... I swear! I'm glad I put in all those hours into games like Fallout to help me obtain those nerves of steel!

And let me tell you, this comic is fucking sexy as hell! Just sitting here wanking it to some random guy getting gangraped in a public shower just makes me wanna go out ravish some unsuspecting strangers.

Oh, wait, no it doesn't; because I prefer to read this comic in the perspective of the victim. More importantly, however, the meer idea of actually forcing myself on someone; hurting them in such a needless and barbaric manner isn't an appealing prospect.

Glad I'm so desensitized to it! hurr hurr! Glad it's so "Normal"!!!

Sure, yeah, rape comics and violent video games hardly do anything for me other than entertain and arouse. But... It's just amazing how the perspective shifts when it's for real-real and not for play-play.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 00:44:57 No.1146865
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Amazing how the same kind of people who scoffed at Christians and Jack Thompson for going afters games, movies and D&D are all on board with the Enjoying this will make you evil" narrative when it's their personal Boogeyman
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Ethos 2016/09/09 02:15:45 No.1146891
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>>1146574

This guy has never heard of catharsis ?
That's funny, people discuss art that makes us violent for over two thousand years.
First, it was poetry, strongly condemned. Poets were thrown out from some cities. Then, later, the novels ... Then the newspapers ... And TV... and now video games.
Do we never learn? Is it so difficult to think and use facts, not just opinions?

We should never let go of our rational mind. I understand that these people are looking to think in the nicest way they can, and that is praiseworthy. but if this way of thinking is too far from reality and facts then it's a failure. They tend to see the "devil" where he is not. That's kinda sad.

Edited at 2016/09/09 02:17:21
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 03:25:20 No.1146904
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There's this new trend in Peru where you enact vigilante justice by torturing and humiliating alleged criminals and uploading videos of it online.

I watched one such video of a "criminal" tied naked in bondage and paddled on the ass and face, and it honestly turned me on A LOT.

I know that armature BDSM and really life violence/humiliation are very different things, but I guess watching it happen on a screen makes them feel equally detached.

I honestly don't think I would've reacted the same way if I didn't watch so much BDSM (of course maybe I wouldve reacted exactly the same way and thats *why* I like BDSM, and it's a "cart before the horse" scenario)

Just thought I'd throw my anecdote out there (hopefully I would get blasted for this...)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 03:38:35 No.1146906
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>>1146723

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 06:41:09 No.1146928
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>>1146723
>I already said I DON'T think it's a negative.

And I adressed that in the literal next paragraph you for some reason either skipped, ignored or pretend I didn't write where I literally said in the first sentence that even if you yourself aren't saying it's a negative effect, most people talking about normalization are implying that it is a negative, because if it were a neutral or positive effect there would be no reason to talk about it in the first place.

>>1146789
And your point is? We know that people aren't getting more violent i.e. violence is not being normalized through consummation of video games. I didn't make that argument, others did. I just said that if that's the case, then I'm wondering where did those observable effects go to, because apparently people are becoming less violent with each and every year but some are still saying that violence is getting normalized.

If that were the case we would see an increase in violent tendencies as society would deem it a "normal" thing for people to be violent.

That's literally the definition as the first sentence in your wikipedia article says:

>Normalization refers to social processes through which ideas and actions come to be seen as 'normal' and become taken-for-granted or 'natural' in everyday life.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 07:34:09 No.1146933
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>>1146928

>And I adressed that in the literal next paragraph you for some reason either skipped, ignored or pretend I didn't write where I literally said in the first sentence that even if you yourself aren't saying it's a negative effect, most people talking about normalization are implying that it is a negative, because if it were a neutral or positive effect there would be no reason to talk about it in the first place.

Lol that is exactly what I did. I stopped reading cuz I got annoyed at you for not paying attention to what I was saying but it turns out I was the one who was actually not paying attention. My bad.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/09 08:52:38 No.1147021
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>>1146933
>My bad.
Wow. Someone admitting a mistake on the internet instead of ignoring it or insulting back? I guess miracles do happen.

Seriously though, kudos to you.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/10 04:13:15 No.1147280
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>>1146401

Why do sensitive assholes have to ruin everything? AD did nothing wrong (except going greedy).
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Furrynomous 2016/09/10 06:08:52 No.1147315
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Especially asinine since this is my favorite AD comic and the whole reason I was subscribed to his website for so long. It's seriously hot.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/12 12:32:58 No.1148502
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>>1146588
commission
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Furrynomous 2016/09/12 16:31:18 No.1148576
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>>1146588
I think he just removed it all.

Do you have a copy?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/13 04:45:19 No.1149023
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>>1146588

I much preferred his older artstyle. Now all the faces he draws look the same.
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Little_wolf :P 2016/09/13 13:28:41 No.1149119
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greetings, citizens!
is my assistance needed?
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al baghDADDY 2016/09/16 21:46:35 No.1150531
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>>1148576

uh yeah simply click on the file link that leads to the image i posted I simply put spoiler alert since its a gore image

him this also is an indication he lurked here...though.most likely a fan notifying him of people viewing his hypocrisy...oh well

he'll learn one day just hope hes not hurt by them homophobic Somali migrants in his area who dont take to kindly to gay roos or pedo bunnys. he's still a good artist , i wish him well.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 03:56:54 No.1150642
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>>1150531

That means let's hire someone to translate his stuff into Somali

And if the imams don't like it, translate MOAR!!!!!!
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/17 09:01:16 No.1150728
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>when people are triggered that an artist is a good person
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al baghDADDY 2016/09/17 11:46:11 No.1150772
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>>1150728
nice way to trivialize "trigger warnings" (which is deemed a serious issue by sjw's) as a means to be ironic :3
especially in defense of someone who has dogmatic sjw tendencies.

I suppose we wont be far off till the regressive left starts finding the use of racist ,ableist , misogynistic jokes so long as they are used against alt-right/Nazis (actually code for anyone who disagrees )
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 12:17:55 No.1150776
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>>1150728
>Everyone points out Artdecade's laughable hypocrisy
>y-you guys are just triggered
Absolutely pathetic
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 12:29:17 No.1150780
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>>1150531
even if that happens, he will blame republicans because they made the somali hate gays
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 12:33:13 No.1150782
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>>1150728
>when people call hypocritical virtue signaling "being a good person"
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/17 14:14:48 No.1150804
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>>1150772

>accusing me of being dogmatic
>having white and black mentality

It's almost like anti-feminists tend to be styupid...

>>1150776

I take it you hold the exact same opinions you had when you were a baby.

Oh, you do...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 14:41:22 No.1150806
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I'll just grab a bucket of this and enjoy the rest of the comment section where a poor Social Justice Warrior gets absolutely slaughtered.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 15:06:04 No.1150808
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>>1150728
>>1150772
Except both of you are wrong
Artdecade actually IS a reprehensible hypocrite and not an actually decent person, meanwhile people on the left have made a point of throwing around "triggered" (which I might add, is indeed still trivializing and something that should stop) as a form of "turnabout is fair play" because literally nobody will shut up about that goddamn word on the other side of things
And I doubt anyone would actually call someone a Nazi unless (gasp) they pretty much ARE a Nazi
You do know that unless you were a close friend of Hitler you would've been gassed for being on this board, right? So why bother sucking up to political ideologies that hate you? That's like the exact opposite of "virtue signaling" (itself a laughably bullshit concept): Being like "see guys! I can be distasteful and xenophobic too! Please don't lynch me"
>>1150804
You see, the thing is, I'm more inclined to agree with YOU on things, but at the same time you're wrong about him as a person. He's absolute shit who doesn't deserve to be defended. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and suppose he HAS actually grown, but that doesn't change how insufferable his pretentious personality is - something that could ALSO be defended, if he hadn't *ACTUALLY GONE ON RECORD* as saying he enjoys drawing gore rape.
Your heart's in the right place, but your brain isn't. You seem like an incredibly stand-up individual, so I really don't understand why you're going out of your way to defend someone who isn't. Most of the other people posting in this thread might be irredeemable trash, but they DO have a point about AD here, even if that's charitably the only thing I can give them

inb4 someone says "cuck" :^)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 15:27:53 No.1150818
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>>1150806

Speaking too soon, aren't ya? Especilly considering that person does have a point...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 15:53:33 No.1150821
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Probably a futile request, but could you guys take this discussion to:

>>1146654
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Who's ur Al BaghDADDY 2016/09/17 20:03:35 No.1150892
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>>1150808
seems you only just demolished Garnets response not mine...I pretty much agree with all that my original comment garnet responded to doesnt really contradict with what you said except the part of him being good or bad since I dont like to pass deep judgments about someone's entire character being good or bad based on their online asshattery (some people are good despite flaws etc)...which is why i never addressed it.

but anyway
other then that there is one more big thing...the part about the Nazis...are you implicating that I sympathize with Nazis and Hitler, seems you are making that implication if so please clarify because...gee what a disspointment you put everything together so well only to have that lil dollop of poop to mess everything up. :C
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 20:32:37 No.1150903
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>>1150808
>And I doubt anyone would actually call someone a Nazi unless (gasp) they pretty much ARE a Nazi
>Goes on to call someone that disgrees a nazi
>in response to a post CALLING THAT EXACT TACTIC OUT

what fucking planet am i on holy shit
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Furrynomous 2016/09/17 22:34:01 No.1151005
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>>1150808
>And I doubt anyone would actually call someone a Nazi unless (gasp) they pretty much ARE a Nazi
I don't want to insult you, but you're being naive then because I've seen way too many people on the left call others sexists, homophobes, racists, and yes, Nazis, who didn't deserve it at all as they didn't do anything other than disagree. I've seen gay people called mysognists by feminists for not wanting to fuck women, for Christ's sake. These days everyone is being called everything regardless of truth.

>"virtue signaling" (itself a laughably bullshit concept)
I hope you mean the act of virtue signaling is bullshit, because way too many times have I seen people proclaim loudly how virtuous they are, how upstanding they are, fighting for all races, women, and lgbt folks alike. But the moment for example a woman disagreed with them, they immediately called her a slut for sucking up to men who disagree with them. The moment a black person disagreed with them they were an Uncle Tom. The moment a gay person disagreed with them they were just some ungrateful faggot (and not in a 4chan way, mind you). Not to mention the hatred they spouted towards straight white males disagreeing with them while proclaiming how "nice and tolerant" they are.

Turns out, most of the time the most "virtuous" on social media are the ones projecting their hatred onto others the hardest.

>You seem like an incredibly stand-up individual, so I really don't understand why you're going out of your way to defend someone who isn't.
Because he's falling for the virtue signaling. "This person agrees with me politically and says morally good things online, he couldn't possibly be bad." It's literally all you need these days to be an asshole and get away with it - just pick the right targets and virtue signal: Lo and behold, "stand-up individuals" will give you a free pass and even defend you.
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Shartdecade 2016/09/17 23:40:53 No.1151030
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>>1150903
they cannot function without their precious block buttons , 140 char limits.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/18 06:34:35 No.1151119
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>>1150892

Denial much? I love how anti-sjws are openly delusional.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 09:16:16 No.1151142
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>>1151119
>be an sjw
>all men are rapists
>all men are sexists
>all whites are racist
>unironinically believe we live in a sexist racist heteropatriarchy
This is your ideology. We know it's your ideology because this is what is espoused by feminist scholars. And we know that this ideology is wrong. You're a fascist with the mantle of anti fascist. You people are a joke. You honestly believe that you're right and anyone who disagrees with you is delusional.
Welp, fine. Go ahead. Think that way. But your pathetic Marxist cult will crumble into dust just like all the other ones. You too, will be just another failure consigned to the history books. Perhaps you would know this if you and your cabal actually studied history instead of trying to rewrite it.
Consider suicide, you irredeemable waste of human skin. If your dogma is what's considered good and righteous' then the entire world should burn
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 09:56:16 No.1151151
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>>1150804
>Be an sjw
>Be literally retarded
>prove once again you have no argument
This is just sad. Maybe go back to tumblr dear, this doesn't seem like the place for you
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/18 10:50:55 No.1151164
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>>1151142

>le strawmanning

When you're literally throwing hissy fit over people telling you to respect others, this level of desperation is simply the cherry on top of the cake

>>1151151

Lovely lack of an argument. Almost like conservatives have nothing beyond petty insults...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 11:02:05 No.1151166
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>>1151164
>Lovely lack of an argument. Almost like conservatives have nothing beyond petty insults...

wat

You quite literally ONLY insulted other people in EVERY SINGLE POST in this thread, NOT ONCE gave an argument, and ignored ANY arguments other's had. Do you even know the definition of hypocrisy?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 12:23:47 No.1151191
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>>1151164
If you scroll up you'll notice that long conversation about how it's hypocritical for ad to draw gore and rape and cub. Then criticize other people for the media they consume.
Then you jumped in with
>le he's a god boi he dindu nuffin
Are sjws this delusional? Apparently so.
Look. I understand. You're an awful person. Like all sjws. You have dark thoughts and you've done terrible things and so you project this attitude onto everyone else and try to take your moral high ground. That's fine. But we all see right through you. You're not gonna convince anyone here with your bullshit. Once again. Try tumblr dear.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 13:35:50 No.1151227
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>>1150892
Seeing as how you consider "alt-right/Nazis" to be a sort of silencing tactic and not an actual label that _actual members of those groups have applied to themselves_, there's probably some level of sympathy for them. That, and jokes about "homophobic Somali refugees", which - I should point out - among trying to escape their war-torn country, might be trying to seek a safe haven BECAUSE they're gay, which is punishable by law in Somalia itself. Stereotyping always makes people forget the facts.
And perhaps I should be more specific: "racist, sexist, homophobic jokes" directed towards those people is VERY unlikely to happen EXPLICITLY BECAUSE of how cannibalistic the alt-right is. Anyone who isn't white would be chewed out in a heartbeat, and the only actual gay man I know who associates with the alt-right is Milo Yiannopolous, who MANY factions of the _actual_ alt-right have openly voiced disgust at BECAUSE he's both gay and Jewish. That pretty much just leaves sexism, which I'm not going to deny exists because it almost certainly does, but I haven't actually seen any instances of it with my own eyes directed TOWARDS the "movement".

>>1151005
I've seen people refer to making tweets saying "my thoughts/prayers go out to the families of the victims of [insert terrorist attack here]" be referred to as "virtue signaling". It's a phrase that means nothing. And for the record, there's a difference between actual progressivism and liberalism, the latter of which is more prone to that type of hypocrisy. You see, liberals THINK they're left-wing, but are actually center-right. Just look at Obama and Clinton. It's the principle of the Overton window in action. Liberalism pays occasional lip service to progressive ideals like civil rights, but notice how despite the fact that in several states it's still legal to be fired because you're gay, all the fervor about gay rights died down after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of marriage. That's what we call complacency: The moment a small facet of the still-broken system is fixed, liberals immediately act like the whole thing runs perfectly now and consider their small victory to be a triumph on par with Nobunaga's unification of Japan. Not to say that there isn't actual hypocrisy among progressives too, don't get me wrong, but you're far likely to see it from someone who has a lukewarm understanding and half-hearted support for any given issue rather than someone who's passionate about it.

>>1151142
>>1151151
>>1151191
And to these three: The moment you result to slurs and/or suicide baiting, you've lost. Accept your defeat gracefully before you shoot yourself in the foot again.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 13:44:17 No.1151229
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Also, let's take a good look at
>>1151030

This tweet is from 2013 and actually has the hashtag "tumblr" in it. Given that Tumblr is the go-to site for people to mention when they're making hyperbolic bullshit jokes about social justice in general, AND the fact that AD here doesn't have the best track record for both not being a hypocrite AND not being a pretentious holier-than-thou douchebag, the logical conclusion to draw is that this Tweet is obvious satire. Poorly-done and unoriginal satire, mind you, but satire nonetheless.
Therefore, using it as an example of how AD is CLEARLY one of those ~*wacky ess jay dubyas*~ means you've fallen for Poe's Law. I'm not surprised, honestly, given how so many blatant troll blogs only fooled other trolls into thinking they were genuine (outlandish descriptions with a million labels, pronouns with the letter x in them because they're "so crazy", people "identifying as" inanimate objects or dead real people, to name just a few common tropes)
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 14:24:59 No.1151235
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>>1151227
>The moment you result to slurs and/or suicide baiting, you've lost
This is not how debate works simply because you deem it so. You are wrong. Quite objectively too. Your side was proven wrong way before you even jumped in to this thread. We had an entire debate without you that you lost. Now the only thing left to do is shoo you crazies away.
Take your holier than thou attitude and shove it up your ass. The only reason you're trying to impose these rules is because you know you can't win with actual arguments so now you're trying to change the rules to make yourself the default winner. What a joke.

Edited at 2016/09/18 14:25:44
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 14:49:44 No.1151237
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>>1151227
>I've seen people refer to making tweets saying "my thoughts/prayers go out to the families of the victims of [insert terrorist attack here]" be referred to as "virtue signaling".
To be honest, the vast majority of those things are virtue signaling. What do you think are the chances that these people actually cry their hearts out for victims of terror attacks? Writing a sentence on twitter or facebook doesn't make you a good person. Tweets don't do shit other than "raise awareness", the easiest thing to do out of all the things you could do, and we've seen with Kony 2012 what that actually accomplishes when people don't research and only parrot things to seem like a virtuous person.

>Obama and Clinton
I agree with your moral assessment on them, but they aren't liberal, they are corporatists. Continuing guantanamo, selling out to Wall Street and keeping up the surveillance state to the degree that they do isn't liberal in the slightest.

>but you're far likely to see [hypocrisy] from someone who has a lukewarm understanding and half-hearted support for any given issue rather than someone who's passionate about it.
Not really. "Passionate" people in social justice circles are most of the time hypocrites of the highest order - look for people perpetuating the "racism = power + prejudice" myth for example. Only invented to excuse their own bigotry.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 14:49:56 No.1151238
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Is it, like, at all possible for you idiots to shut the fuck up and stop waving your e-penises at each other?

At all?
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Shartdecade 2016/09/18 15:18:49 No.1151246
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>>1151238
is it like possible for you to not look at text? ...theres a hide text button.
it literally text LESS effort then actually taking the time to reply

.and ive seen plenty of arguments that doesn't get me triggered enough to tell people to "shut the fuck up" as if text on a screen is audible .

but nice try putting on a guise ...this apathetic edgy attempt is no substitute for your all mighty block buttons, sjw
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 16:43:15 No.1151269
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>>1151246

Wow, yeah. Because there's only two people on the internet, and one of them is you.

I assume most people on this site are adults, but fail at every opportunity to actually act like it. You're no better, so stop acting like it.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 17:33:31 No.1151298
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> look for people perpetuating the "racism = power + prejudice" myth for example.

I'd don't know if it's a myth as much as an opinion that divides scholars. Most, as far as I know, define racism as prejudice backed by societal power. It's tough because there's no one definition of what "racism" means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Social_and_behavioral_science

Unless you're a PhD in sociology, I don't think you should describe something you don't understand as a myth.

I'm not a sociologist either, so I'm neutral in the whole prejudice + power debate.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 17:38:29 No.1151309
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>>1151298
It's bullshit. Much like how the vast majority of sociology is bullshit. It is literally a brazen attempt to redefine racism so that only white people and men can be labeled as racist/sexist. You don't need a phd to see that. Just a working pair of eyes
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/18 18:11:20 No.1151324
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>>1151191

I take it you haven't read previous addressals. Again, do you still hold the same positions that you had as a baby? Appearently so.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 18:13:12 No.1151325
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>>1151309
"It is literally a brazen attempt to redefine racism so that only white people and men can be labeled as racist/sexist."

"Literally"? Citation needed.

And tons of feminist scholars have written about misogyny by women. Racism by people of color against other people of color (even against people within the same group, like colorism) also counts as racism according to most writers I've read who support the prejudice + power definition. I personally don't use that definition, but at least I don't strawman the other side.

"Much like how the vast majority of sociology is bullshit."

Just like everyone else, you'll suddenly change your mind when you find a sociologist that agrees with you.

Did you major in the field? Minor? What authors have you read? I ask because if you said no to all those questions and yet still claimed you knew enough about an entire field to dismiss it, that would make you a gigantic, deliberately ignorant, insecure tool.

And that's not true, is it?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 18:56:11 No.1151340
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>>1151324
You address nothing and you have only one snarky comeback because you're a drone. Great job moron. You sure showed me
>>1151325
>Unironically defending pseudoscience
Looks like we found the sjw major.
I hope your parent's money was well wasted on that degree.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 19:58:45 No.1151360
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>>1151298
>I'd don't know if it's a myth as much as an opinion that divides scholars.
>Most, as far as I know, define racism as prejudice backed by societal power.
The only reasonable definition of racism that necessitates power is the definition of "institutionalized racism". For racism in a general context, the definition "racism = prejudice + power" by definition cannot be applied to individuals because a "race group" having "institutional power" doesn't mean that every single person part of that race has equal capabilities of using that power to their advantage. This means that under that "+ power" definition, a powerless (poor, disabled, etc.) white person CAN and CANNOT be simultaniously racially discriminated against by a powerful (rich, able-bodied, etc.) black person in the USA, which would make the definition of racism meaningless in any practical way, as a view of the instutional aspect alone is too simple- and close-minded in regards to individuals. It literally flies in the face of the idea of intersectionality itself.

Most people that misapply that definition to the inter-indiviualistic level only do this due to their own biases to excuse their own racist behaviour. Other's I have to assume just don't know any better or don't want to know.

>Unless you're a PhD in sociology
Sociology is not a hard science. As such, "peer review" is basically a litmus test on ideological purity and/or pretentiousness - the former can be evidenced by a few examples of the twitter account "realpeerreview" that will make any reasonable person tear their hair out, the later is evidenced by the Sokal affair (google it if you don't know it, it's pretty hilarious).

I've seen many "scholars" be racist as fuck towards white people, sexist/misandrist towards males, all of them excusing their bigotry through the "+power" definition that they are all wrongfully applying to the inter-individualistic level, none of their writings were any better than the hatred they spouted on a day-to-day basis. Being a scholar in a subjective field such as this, surrounded by like-minded people all agreeing with one another doesn't prove anything to me.

I hope you can see where I'm coming from when I say that I really am sorry, but I cannot take any such biased profession seriously, most of all when it's trying to apply subjective opinions to objective reality and requires me to obey unconditionally, as disagreement will be labeled an -ism. I'm not trying to be snarky, I've seen this happen to people in academic settings countless times.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 20:50:24 No.1151372
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Sees people discussing racism and other social justice topics on the thread, clicks because of the murder porn tag.
Somehow I expected something other than it said on the tin. Shame on me I guess.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 20:53:37 No.1151373
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>>1151372
scrollup to the image where it says
"SPOILER ALERT" click on the file link , open in new tab...and then theres your classic artdecade murder porn..there was a link to the rest on his FA gallery..but all of them deleted since butthurt and hypocrisy :/
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 22:10:03 No.1151405
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The only people that seem to hate Art Decade are the usual gamer gaters and alt right guys here... You guys talk a lot of shit but I've never seen any proof? I've only talked to him once in person but he was really nice. I wish he drew more stuff like this though.
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Who's ur Al BaghDADDY 2016/09/18 22:16:13 No.1151408
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>>1151405
ur being kinda ..I vague (I mean prove what?)
a lot of topics have been covered above. many with proof but the later half being flawed arguments by sjw's not really relating to artdecade since his hypocrisy had been covered hell even a self proclaimed leftist views him as a bad person while calling someone else a nazi :D
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 22:17:55 No.1151409
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>>1151360
"The only reasonable definition of racism that necessitates power is the definition of 'institutionalized racism'."

Society is made up of more than institutions. Thus (in the power + prejudice point of view) anti-black discrimination by a real estate agency and a cross left burning on a black family's front yard by some neighborhood teen are both forms of racism. However,only the former is institutional racism while the later is an act of individual racism.

"under that '+ power' definition, a powerless (poor, disabled, etc.) white person CAN and CANNOT be simultaniously racially discriminated against by a powerful (rich, able-bodied, etc.) black person in the USA"

How? The argument is that the rich guy can be classist and ableist, but not racist. Remember, everyone has some form of privilege. It's almost a logical impossibility for someone NOT to have some kind of privilege. I guess you'd have to be a poor, trans, pansexual, woman with every disability in the world living in Somalia.

And don't confuse discrimination with racism. Laypeople treat these terms like synonyms, but they aren't.

>Sociology is not a hard science.

And the inevitable positivist circle-jerk begins. Also, you're using sociology to attack sociology, kid.

You know those climate scientists who are pissed off that many people don't believe man-made climate change is happening? Guess who they go to to change their message.

Yep, social scientists.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-social-science-help-combat-climate-change/

But to the point I was making, if you haven't studied what the sociologists who use the + power model say, then you have no right to make shit up about what that model is. You have to understand a theory before you dismiss it. This applies to all fields.

>I've seen many "scholars" be racist as fuck towards white people, sexist/misandrist towards males

And I've heard hard scientists claim that Yeti exists, promote eugenics and "scientific" racism, and engage in alchemy.

And that's just the beginning: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

>the Sokal affair (google it if you don't know it, it's pretty hilarious).

I have heard of it, and I agree. But have you heard of Andrew Wakefield? Industrial Bio-Test Laboratories? Joachim Boldt? Silvia Bulfone-Paus? Yoshitaka Fujii? The huge unconscious biases that scientists that get corporate funding have?

Oh sorry, that last bit contains some social science.

>requires me to obey unconditionally

Wow, insecure AND melodramatic?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 22:23:47 No.1151411
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>>1151405

Uh oh, spooky boogeymen! Better get my MAGA hat and post some rare pepes!
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Furrynomous 2016/09/18 23:07:07 No.1151421
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>>1151409
Holy shit, you malicious, lying son of a bitch. You've danced around it but you've all but admitted that non-whites can't be racist towards whites with your power+privilege bullshit.
LITERALLY redefining words to fit this agenda you have. This is why people are paranoid. You and people like you are quite literally malicious manipulating thought police.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 07:24:04 No.1151490
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>>1151421
>You've danced around it but you've all but admitted that non-whites can't be racist towards whites with your power+privilege bullshit.

It's "power + prejudice", not "power + privilege". While you were typing, didn't you realize the later was kind of redundant?

But to the point, I hold neither the power + prejudice view nor the made up view you just shit out. I'm just correcting the bizarre strawmen being set up by people who have no clue what they're talking about. If you disagree with the power + view, at least educate yourself of what its proponents are arguing.

TL;DR
Don't be a lazy shit.

> You and people like you are quite literally malicious manipulating thought police.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 07:32:38 No.1151492
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>>1151490

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDHK0x2j80

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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 09:30:03 No.1151519
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>>1151490

I don't want to be harsh here, but it is pretty much the same arguments radfems/ultra lefists bring up over and over again. People disagree? educate yourself. No, fuck off. Really.

White privilege isn't a thing. It is class privilege.

Neither is reverse racism. It is just racism.

Neither is the claim that "racism has to do with power". It's racist once you reason something with race. It doesn't mean that someone holding no power couldn't be racist.

Neither is Male privilege. Fuck off. I could go on and on about shit males have to endure women don't, and also how men are actually being held back.

The pendulum has swing too far. Now people try to push it even further.

Let's bring it back to the middle. Maybe then will male suicide not be four times higher than women's. Maybe then the black community wouldn't be held back by their victim attitude. Maybe then people wouldn't flee to the extreme sides, both way.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 09:34:18 No.1151521
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>However, only the former is institutional racism while the later is an act of individual racism.
Yes, but both actions are racist regardless of power dynamics, most of all the later one isn't dependent on power dynamics at all. Why would it be? Would you say it wouldn't be racist anymore if the majority of people in power in your example were black? So I can't be racist to black people in Detroit because the city council over there is majority black? But I can be racist in the US because most US politicians are white? So living in Detroit, I can be and cannot be racist at the same time towards black people?

>How? The argument is that the rich guy can be classist and ableist, but not racist. Remember, everyone has some form of privilege. It's almost a logical impossibility for someone NOT to have some kind of privilege.
But the differentiating factor of racism towards other -isms is the motivational factor, not the source of societal power one has (as that would be a meaningless distinction in regards to value judgements). If I'm black and use my privileges that I acquiered elsewhere other than from my race to discriminate based on race, then I'm racist by the sociologist's +power definition and can't be racist by that same definition as there are multiple power dynamics at play, but only one racial motivational factor here that makes an act racist. What you're saying is that motivation is irrelevant, only the source of societal power matters, which would mean that a black man killing a white couple because of his hatred of the white race can only at most be regarded as sexism because one of the victims was female. It makes it impossible to discern between acts of racism, sexism, and other -isms because now that motivations are irrelevant, only the perpetrator's and victim's identities are important, regardless of circumstance.

The logical conclusion is that being racist cannot be immoral as it's not dependent on bigotry, motivations or maliciousness of a person's actions or thoughts but solely on their race and societies racial makeup that they themselves cannot change. Which is just retarded.

>Also, you're using sociology to attack sociology, kid.
Yes, I'm using sociologist's logic to show that sociologist's arguments aren't internally consistent the way they have been applying it. That's not really an issue for me as I'm not subscribing to those ideas, only pointing out their inconsistencies.
Also, don't call me kid, I've been nothing but respectful to you and it only makes you seem childish.

>You know those climate scientists who are pissed off that many people don't believe man-made climate change is happening Guess who they go to to change their message.
I don't care. I don't listen to sociologists in regards to their profession as they are ridiculoulsy biased and illogical, why do you think I'd listen to other scientists that regard it as something worthwhile? Scientists can't be expected to be experts outside their fields, and even inside they should be put under scrutiny, so I don't get your argumentum ad authority here. Also, please don't quote rationalwiki. They are anything but rational and having seen some of the edit wars and read some of the articles of theirs in regards to things I'm knowledgeable of, they are just as much ideologues as any other you'll find on twitter and tumblr.

>But have you heard of Andrew Wakefield? Industrial Bio-Test Laboratories? Joachim Boldt? Silvia Bulfone-Paus? Yoshitaka Fujii? The huge unconscious biases that scientists that get corporate funding have?

I'm not denying that STEM fields have their own problems, but at least papers over there can mostly be replicated to test their validity. How do you test the claim of the existence of rape culture in the west, when I myself per definition cannot be able to make a judgement on that, as I supposedly have male priviledge that blinds me to see objective reality? There are papers out there passing "peer review" saying that the scientific method is male-oriented and thus biased, so I can't even use that according to some scholars. I can either agree or shut up, which isn't scientific at all.

>Wow, insecure AND melodramatic?
I'm not insecure, but could you please explain to me how I'm being melodramatic when people are being thrown out of feminist circles for having a differing opinion on the prevalence of rape culture in the west for example? Being smeared in journalistic outlets by other "scholars" as rape apolgists because of that? There's nothing respectable or scientific about the current iteration of their profession, maybe there was once, maybe there will be one day, but not today.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 10:32:25 No.1151529
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>>1151408
Not really? Just a lot of people here claiming things with nothing to back it up. Kind of just seems like he just got older and changed his mind about stuff? He's been around forever. Usually when people want to trash a furry artist they're not shy with the screenshots and the proof but with Art Decade I've never seen anything?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 10:39:15 No.1151533
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>>1151119

Someone wanting to imply that playing video games are "strongly correlated with violence and psychopathic behaviour" really should avoid trying to call others delusional.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 10:58:44 No.1151535
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>>1151325
>And tons of feminist scholars have written about misogyny by women. Racism by people of color against other people of color (even against people within the same group, like colorism) also counts as racism according to most writers I've read who support the prejudice + power definition. I personally don't use that definition, but at least I don't strawman the other side.

Way to miss the point.

Trying to redefine racism to instead mean prejudice plus power means only certain racism counts.

>Just like everyone else, you'll suddenly change your mind when you find a sociologist that agrees with you.

Sociology itself is flawed as they largely are just spouting personal opinions rather than basing their opinions on evidence. Psychology had a similar problem for the longest time until they started engaging in empirical studies more and made use of statistics to help with giving their points credence. You'd be hard pressed to find an empirical study done by a sociologist, which is why it can be deemed to be mostly bunk.

What sociologists do are "analytical studies". They don't try focusing on a certain number of subjects for a study nor do try using variables which can be clearly defined, instead what they do is look at a situation or story and say "this is happening because of [insert opinion here]".

This is unlike what a psychological study does which is "x number of participants exhibited y behavior z% of the time". This is one of the reasons why when you read about any 'study' in the news, it's worth going and looking at how it's actually conducted before believing it since there is a very loose definition of 'study' due to how the soft sciences throw the word around.
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/19 11:01:11 No.1151537
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>>1151340

Lmao already the "psuedo-science" bullshit. Almost like being an anti-intellectual is the only argument you have....
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/19 11:01:58 No.1151541
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>>1151533

Some who's failed to demonstrate unbiased sources sure told me [/sarcasm]
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 11:18:09 No.1151544
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>>1151541

Do you honestly think your opinion is such gold that it requires an unbiased source to disprove? And I would imagine you'd treat anything that goes against your opinion is biased anyway so it'd likely be a fruitless endeavor to try and educate you on the subject.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 11:19:07 No.1151545
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>>1151541
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-video-games-inspire-violent-behavior/
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christopher_Ferguson/publication/5929680_The_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_A_meta-analytic_review_of_positive_and_negative_effects_of_violent_video_games/links/00463530412b7600cb000000.pdf
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178997000554
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-016-1179-6
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Emergence≠rigor Guy without shitty major 2016/09/19 14:02:31 No.1151584
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>>1151325
I hope you're not implying sociology is a rigorous field. Consensus can be bullshit, even in my field, and sociology is like, omg, super duper fucking emergent. Glad I chose physics. On the scale of behaviorally predictable/fundamental to chaotic/emergent as all hell, let's take a look at where sociology belongs. You can't do justice to fully explaining people's motives as in sociology without biology (which itself is extremely complicated, emergent and prone to being unpredictable), you can't describe biology without organic chemistry (the most insanely detailed field within chemistry), you can't describe chemistry without quantum electrodynamics (and in the words of Feynman, if you think you understand it, you definitely don't), you can't describe any physics without math (all that digging and we're finally at the level of being deterministic, well, sometimes). I'll pretend you know what chaos theory is, too, and can generalize it. Sorry for being a scientist first and a liberal second, but seeing as there are... what... 13? Holberg laureates and over a hundred physics/chemistry/hell even literature laureates EACH, I don't give sociology much credence, especially having taken that ridiculous easy A myself.

TL;DR: The one who finally unifies general relativity with quantum mechanics, making even the corpse of Einstein tear out his hair in jealous rage, will STILL have an easier time piecing it all together than the ones who first find out why people on the internet will vehemently argue an indefensible point of view to the point of shitting themselves publicly. Actual rigorous science can only go so far mate.

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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 14:39:17 No.1151590
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>>1151519
>all black people are playing the victim but also men also have problems to deal with too therefore other peoples' pressing issues are invalid and we can't possibly be top of the food chain
reddit pls go
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 15:06:59 No.1151599
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Came here for art, what i got is a glorious shitstorm
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 16:07:28 No.1151613
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>>1151590
>Let's blame white men for all of our problems
Tumblr plz go. Right off a cliff
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Rose_Quartz_Is_proLife_for_not_having_an_abortion 2016/09/19 16:29:16 No.1151618
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"old fashioned beat and rape\r\nSTRAWBERRIES AND CREAM FOR EVERYONE YUMMY" -Artdecade
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TheClosetBoy 2016/09/19 16:37:35 No.1151619
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Holy shit, Artdecade pls make more rape comics... I mean wow! These guys writing essays about their belief and ideals while fighting each other. I mean come on guys theres nothing good or bad its just legal and ilegal, if its bad but legal you have to learn from it, why is important? and deal with it

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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 16:48:54 No.1151623
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Good old Wayback Machine.

Obviously he was joking in these, but it shows how much he's changed over the years.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 17:26:38 No.1151629
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>>1151619
I actually really wish he would make more rape comics. They're really hot
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 17:34:26 No.1151631
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>>1151618
Can you give the archive link, plz.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 17:35:32 No.1151632
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>>1151519

>I don't want to be harsh here

You're not being harsh. You're being purposefully ignorant.

Just to clarify, do you think that being white, in and of itself, does not give one any advantages? Ditto for gender?

And again, I'm not a believer in the + power argument. I'm just a believer in knowing what an argument actually is before attacking it. The original guy made a claim about the + power definition that was false, and I corrected him.

>>1151492

There aren't going to be any statistics cited in this video, are there?

[Checks]

Nope, just a dude with no expertise making you feel better about yourself.

> Maybe then the black community wouldn't be held back by their victim attitude.

There's a huge strain of an anti-victim mentality among black people. In many different areas, black people show less tolerance for welfare (ab)use, crime, and absentee parenting and are more likely to believe that people who work hard and get educated can succeed. This is especially strong among black women.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2013/01/acting_white_theory_black_academic_achievement_based_on_other_factors.html

http://www.epi.org/publication/resilience-black-labor-force-participation/

http://www.pearsonhighered.com/educator/product/So-You-Think-I-Drive-a-Cadillac-Welfare-Recipients-Perspectives-on-the-System-and-Its-Reform/9780205792160.page

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/03/AR2006060300695_pf.html

Unless by "victim attitude" you mean "the realization that anti-black racism exists". If that's the case, why are Jewish-Americans relatively successful? "Never again" is a constant refrain in the Jewish community and many holidays are observances of tragedies. Irish-Americans too love to go on and on about the evil British, our long journey to America in the famine ships, the "No Irish Need Apply" signs, and anti-Catholic bigotry. None of this stopped us from becoming the richest ethnic group in America.

Why is alleged black "victim attitude" so different?

And of course many black Americans have tried to rise up above victimhood. One doesn't need to be an expert in history to know that those guys and gals weren't treated so well.

>>1151521
>If I'm black and use my privileges that I acquiered elsewhere other than from my race to discriminate based on race, then I'm racist by the sociologist's +power definition"

Which sociologist are you referring to?

>What you're saying is that motivation is irrelevant

I'm not saying that because, again, I'm not a proponent of the + power definition.

But remember proponents claim that racism is "prejudice + power". The prejudice is the motivation.

Seriously, kid, your reading skills need work.

>The logical conclusion is that being racist cannot be immoral as it's not dependent on bigotry, motivations or maliciousness of a person's actions or thoughts

I mean, neither is drunk driving. Bigotry, motivation, and malice are not the only requirements for an action or inaction to be evil.

>Also, don't call me kid, I've been nothing but respectful to you

Being respectful involves a) actually trying to comprehend what the other person is saying and b) not being an arrogant brat who claims to know more about a field than people who've spent decades in that field. Are you the kind of guy that stands over the plumber and gives advice?

You know those climate scientists who are pissed off that many people don't believe man-made climate change is happening Guess who they go to to change their message.
>I don't care.

Well then, I guess you don't care about any of this. Obviously if you did you'd care, you'd at least consider the opinion of the trained people trying to stop the biggest catastrophe in modern human history.

One last thing though, which part of that RationalWiki link was inaccurate? Because if you don't have an answer to that question, that means you were just doing a banal ad hominem attack because of your insecurity.

>>1151535
>Sociology itself is flawed as they largely are just spouting personal opinions rather than basing their opinions on evidence.

Never heard of or cited a poll?

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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 17:49:13 No.1151634
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>He thinks polls are scientifically valid
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 18:38:47 No.1151647
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>>1151632

Could you fuck off?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 20:01:11 No.1151709
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>>1151632
This is a furry porn board.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 20:35:44 No.1151722
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>I'm not saying that because, again, I'm not a proponent of the + power definition.
>But remember proponents claim that racism is "prejudice + power". The prejudice is the motivation.
>Seriously, kid, your reading skills need work.
My reading skills are just fine. Obviously I didn't mean that you yourself are saying that as a proponent of this stupidity. But if a black rich man using his priveleges he acquiered elsewhere (aka, he holds power) uses it to discriminate based on race, then by my understanding according to the definition he's being racist because the motivational factor and power he holds make it so.

On the other hand, even you yourself said proponents of +power say he can't be racist either way because his racial group doesn't hold any power in the US. I.e. even though he himself holds power and is pretty much priveleged in society he's not racist, regardless of his motivational factor and power he has in society. They made the motivational factor irrelevant as prejudice and power are both available, but it still isn't considered racist because apparently a races social standing is more important than motivational factors in regards to indivual acts of racism that don't involve racial group's power structures.

Also, you didn't answer the canondrum of being part of many subsets of societies where the power dynamics can flip from subset to subset, i.e. local, state, national, etc., whereby this definition a person can be and cannot be racist both at the same time, making the definition meaningless in regards to any value judgement.

>Being respectful involves a) actually trying to comprehend what the other person is saying and b) not being an arrogant brat who claims to know more about a field than people who've spent decades in that field
I was being respectful to YOU, not social scientists, and as you earlier said you aren't one, so you're feeling disrespected for nothing other then possibly being offended someone doesn't respect social sciences as much as you do.

>Are you the kind of guy that stands over the plumber and gives advice?
If instead of fixing the toilet he decides to shit in it and says everything's fine,"he's the expert after all", then yeah, surely I will have to give him some advice and/or ask him to leave and never call for his help ever again. Which is the exact parallel I'm drawing to what I'm seeing in soft sciences these days.

>Well then, I guess you don't care about any of this. Obviously if you did you'd care, you'd at least consider the opinion of the trained people trying to stop the biggest catastrophe in modern human history.
>trained people on climate science who haven't studied social sciences
>obviously experts who understand how important social sciences are
Didn't you just say that I, as a person not having studied social sciences, have no authority on their validity? Now you're saying climate scientists who haven't studied social sciences do hold an authority on their validity and I should listen to them. Regardless of argument from authority - you're contradicting yourself.

>One last thing though, which part of that RationalWiki link was inaccurate? Because if you don't have an answer to that question, that means you were just doing a banal ad hominem attack because of your insecurity.
Again with the insecurity, even though it's you whose reading skills need some work themselves. I never said the article you linked was inaccurate, I said that in my experiece, rationalwiki is filled with idealogues and you'd be better off using other sources. Surely you'd do the same if I linked breitbart here, or would you dilligently read every infowars link I'd give you instead of just asking for better sources, regardless of how accurate the articles would have been in the end?

>>1151709
I consider furries to be the intellectual prime of humanity, able to discuss society and academia amongst pornographic images of squirrels getting raped by rhinos and bears like no other group in humanity's history. You don't?
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JD 2016/09/19 20:40:04 No.1151723
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Some thoughts and then back to the furry porn.

Coming from a 32y/o GAY African American (Black or whatever you want to call it to be P.C.)

I come from a middle class family with one sibling. I have successfully completed 3 college degrees.

I have a cousin that is from a lower class family, that barely had anything. She is finishing her PH.D. in 2 months, has a family and is now considered upper-middle class.

Did our ancestors go through crap? YES
Are we experiencing what they did? NO
Why? Because they struggled to get us to where we are today.

Is racism a real thing? YES, and ANYONE can be a racist. GET OVER IT. If you get in their face about it, the problem only gets worse and you are more than likely playing into a preconceived stereo type they have. Show them better and move on.

Don't spend time bringing up the past. Remember what people (no matter what race) have done in order for you to be where you are. Respect their hard work, by contributing your own small part so that the next generation can be better.

If someone doesn't share your views, just look at them and be polite. Once you part ways, you don't have to associate with them. In the case of the internet...

Just say "interesting thought(s)"

Hit the little ignore button, if it is an option, and move on with your life.

MR AND MRS MODERATOR,

Would you please clean this thread?

Thanks!!!
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 21:15:04 No.1151732
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>>1151634
>He thinks polls are scientifically valid

Did I say that?

>>1151722
> Obviously I didn't mean that you yourself are saying that as a proponent of this stupidity.

"What you're saying is that motivation is irrelevant".

"What you're saying"

"What you're saying"

"What you're saying"

"What you're saying"

"What you're saying"

>They made the motivational factor irrelevant as prejudice and power are both available.

Prejudice is the motivating factor. Motivation isn't irrelevant because it's half the fucking definition.

>Also, you didn't answer the canondrum of being part of many subsets of societies where the power dynamics can flip from subset to subset, i.e. local, state, national, etc., whereby this definition a person can be and cannot be racist both at the same time, making the definition meaningless in regards to any value judgement.

I thought you understood that I'm not a proponent of the + power view?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. Of course you didn't understand.

The power + view simply says that everyone has a privilege and thus everyone can perpetuate racism, sexism, ableism, etc.

The rich, anti-white black guy can be classist because he's rich, transphobic because he's cis, antisemitic because he's Baptist, xenophobic because he was born in the US, etc. He can also, according to + power proponents, be racist against other people of color. But he cannot be racist against white people, according to proponents, because whites still have the power in the broader, American culture he lives in.

Now, this isn't inevitable. Most + power proponents I've spoken to about Mugabe's Zimbabwe concede that anti-white sentiment does indeed count as racism in that country. But if you're hypothetical rich guy is living in the US of A, the view claims that since he's living in a white supremacist society where his success is relatively rare, he can't be racist.

>Didn't you just say that I, as a person not having studied social sciences, have no authority on their validity?

Yes, I did. However, climate scientists know a lot more than you do about, well, pretty much everything.

So let's be clear, NOTHING can convince you that your views of social science are incorrect? Not social scientists? Not hard scientists? Nobody?

>I was being respectful to YOU

Making up shit isn't respectful.

>I never said the article you linked was inaccurate

No, you decided to dance around the issue like a little shit instead.

> Surely you'd do the same if I linked breitbart here, or would you dilligently read every infowars link I'd give you instead of just asking for better sources, regardless of how accurate the articles would have been in the end?

To the first part of the question, no.

To the second part of the question, yes.

Because see, that's what grown ups do. We listen to the opinions of others before talking, even if we disagree with them. If I'm voting for Mayor Smith and a guy who's voting for Mayor Johnson says it's going to get chilly, I bring my jacket. If a Holocaust denier says the ocean is wet, that doesn't mean the Sahara is the fucking Pacific.

These are kindergarten concepts.

>>1151723
>Don't spend time bringing up the past.

Past as in a week ago?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AsABlackMan/

>>1151647
Not as long as the Dunning–Kruger pandemic continues in this thread.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/19 21:43:21 No.1151739
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>>1151732
>Getting this triggered over a meme degree
I guess you really did waste your parent's money.
>b-but I got to pay to be told all white people are evil and you can't be racist towards them
Fuck off. Get out of here. This literally isn't even related to the original topic of this thread. Not even tangentially. Go back to Tumblr and take your fake field with you
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Rose_Quartz_Is_proLife_for_not_having_an_abortion 2016/09/19 21:50:50 No.1151755
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>>1151723
well said!

but as for the cleaning up..maybe preventing furture post to thread sure maybe...but most of this is gold and comes after the comic..anyone wanting to get off can simply hide the text!
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TheClosetBoy 2016/09/19 23:21:36 No.1151793
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Lol beatiful, everybody is just arguing about nonsense and using nonsense as argument. Guys just say im sorry pls take me to your bed and rape me. Because you all are acting like frustrated nymphos at this point, BTW if the thread is dead and done why everybody is here?
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Furrynomous 2016/09/20 06:01:24 No.1151942
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>>1151739
My degree is in Paralegal Studies. I only took one sociology course as the social science requirement. Because of non-profit loan forgiveness and a good job, I only have $4,000 left. I paid my parents back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

And again, not a proponent of the + power definition. Jesus, people, practice your reading comprehension.

Edited at 2016/09/20 06:02:40
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Furrynomous 2016/09/20 13:57:39 No.1152021
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>>1151793
I keep seeing you around and you are probably the most annoying regular poster I come across
That, combined with the fact that you use a name and an (incredibly chuunibyou, I must add) e-mail address makes me believe you might be Spoiler
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Furrynomous 2016/09/22 11:16:28 No.1152596
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>>1151732
>Did I say that?

You sorta implied it by saying this in response to a criticism of sociology that amounted to their papers basically all being opinion pieces:

>Never heard of or cited a poll?

I say 'sorta' though because I can only guess what the purpose of that response of yours was meant to be.

>>1151942
>And again, not a proponent of the + power definition. Jesus, people, practice your reading comprehension.

Reading comprehension is why someone would take your attempts to defend the demented definition as meaning you think it is defensible.

When you defend a position it makes you look like you are supporting that position.

For instance, if you argued that it is completely reasonable to be against day old embryos being killed on a regular basis by merciless she-devils and so the morning after pill must be banned, people might then think you may not think you're pro-choice.
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Paul Blartdecade 2016/09/22 20:58:39 No.1152959
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He apparently now made his account private , all of this I think was influenced by this shit storm and critique ...much like recently due to this thread possibly making him deleting his gore rape porn from his FA and eventually his VCL account...and im pretty sure he did since those pieces had been there for a decade...before being deleted..
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Furrynomous 2016/09/22 21:18:42 No.1152960
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>>1152959

> I'm a fucking hypocrite who doesn't like getting called out on my bullshit, and here's my echo chamber
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Paul Blartdecade 2016/09/22 21:36:33 No.1152965
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>>1152960
YUP
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Furrynomous 2016/09/22 21:44:05 No.1152967
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>>1152959
Did anyone save the porn? Anyone? Plz?
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Rose_Quartz_Is_proLife_for_not_having_an_abortion 2016/09/22 21:51:48 No.1152970
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>>1152965
>>1152959


Now before you sjw's lecture me

yes he is not violating the first amendment and yes no matter what shitty way he puts it ....his lil echo chamber can be just be that since its his account on a private account on a privatly owned social network..


that being said..hes a fuckboy for doing so...whatever happened to security in ones views to be challenged...or humility to take in new ideas to refine and maybe even change the ones you have now...but whatever

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Furrynomous 2016/09/22 23:00:32 No.1152983
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>>1152970
It's one thing to have your views challenged, it's another to have several hundred people down your throat daily because you said racism is bad or whatever. Not that you could ever relate to having that many people care about anything you say, anon.
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Likes the Colour Purple 2016/09/22 23:13:42 No.1152985
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Looks like I missed a lot, and what a shame. There's no way I can follow all of this without some serious investment. As far as rape goes, I can't see how that can be construed as offensive or in poor taste. Afterall, this guy posted pictures involving rednecks. Come on, lets get some perspective here.

Edited at 2016/09/22 23:15:25
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 00:50:42 No.1153027
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>>1152983
and you would..anon?
oh please , *Several hundreds* as if a bunch of alt right nazis or trolls flood him as much as Leslie Jones...who after all that simply just ignores them...no this particular move was a result of hypocrisy exposed, not harassment..


and nice little strawman argument you tried weaseling in..naw not agreeing with BLM does not necessarily mean you support murder of minorities anymore then not agreeing with PETA means ones supports cruelty to animals.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 01:09:35 No.1153052
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>>1153027
It's 2016 and I have a 4 digit follower count on social media like anyone that isn't a socially-inept gremlin. Why yes, I can relate. :^)

In case you forgot, Leslie Jones happened to leave Twitter altogether until the chaos died down a bit. Either way, what does she have to do with Artdecade, lmao? Her career is much more reliant on having a social media presence than his is, you can't really compare the two. Why do you even care that you can't read his tweets anymore in the first place if you seem to dislike him so much?
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Garnet is that You? :) 2016/09/23 01:49:29 No.1153061
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>>1153052
majority of them bots ..anyway

Her career is much more reliant on having a social media presence than his is, you can't really compare the tw

no shit....hence why I never compared the two as equals but used her as exaggeration to someone claiming *hundreds* of people daily harass him..nonsense..do not bend my words.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 06:20:53 No.1153108
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This is crazy.... insane.

I have never posted on this site before, but can not help myself now.

This 25 page comic has generated a mountain of garbage post and comments.

I do not want to discuss the content of this, who is right.... nothing. This is in now way the correct or proper forum for this at all.

I feel the need to remind you, you are on a furry porn site. A site that takes its name U-18 from a WWII German Submarine. The mascot on the home page has an Nazi style arm band and obvious overtones. Yup, lets go online and start an argument around social issues, racism, and rape, on a GAY FURRY FETISH NAZI THEMED web site.

You all have no sense of context, non of this is real, nothing about this site is serious. People come here to look at art and masturbate.......

Grow Up & Grow a thicker skin while your at it.

This shit needs to be deleted.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 06:22:33 No.1153109
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>>1153108

you sir, didn't read the gentlemen's protocol
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 06:37:45 No.1153113
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>>1153109

No I haven't, but I have now.
Never posted here before, said as much. I lurk.
If that's the intent of the site creator, and moderators then sure.
I apologize, discuss away. I'll lean not to scroll so much.

Edited at 2016/09/23 06:40:15
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 07:02:45 No.1153115
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>>1152959

Yeah there's not that many places on the internet to talk about subjects like this, so it wouldn't even be surprising if he was in this thread attempting to defend himself.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 07:07:50 No.1153116
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>>1152596
I implied nothing of the sort. You know that something doesn't have to be scientific to be reliable. My point is that everyone in this thread relies on polls all the time, yet some of the same people attack social science.

>Reading comprehension is why someone would take your attempts to defend the demented definition as meaning you think it is defensible.

You're right. I should've clarified. I meant "middle school-level reading comprehension".

If someone said "the Republican Party thinks the sun is made of blue cheese" and I corrected them, then followed up by saying repeatedly that I'm not a Republican, would any intelligent person think I'm a Republican?

In the regular adult world, people read about and discuss views that are not theirs all the time.

>For instance, if you argued that it is completely reasonable to be against day old embryos being killed on a regular basis by merciless she-devils and so the morning after pill must be banned, people might then think you may not think you're pro-choice.

To follow this analogy, it's more like someone said anti-choice advocates think each and every fetus was personally implanted in the mother's womb by Xenu (peace be upon him) and so cannot be removed least we suffer his wrath. Then I corrected the person who thinks this, clarified that I am pro-choice, and semi-literate children think I bomb abortion clinics.

Serious question, though. Have you never read a book, paper, essay, blog, or article or heard a lecture or conversation where the writer/speaker played devil's advocate or merely clarified what other people beside's the writer agree with? Isn't that taught in high school in pretty much every civilized part of the planet (and most of the other places too)?

Also, I love how these kids' inability to read is somehow my fault. Oh well, I accept your apology.

Edited at 2016/09/23 07:08:52
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 07:20:56 No.1153118
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>>1153027
>oh please , *Several hundreds* as if a bunch of alt right nazis or trolls flood him as much as Leslie Jones...who after all that simply just ignores them...no this particular move was a result of hypocrisy exposed, not harassment..


>and nice little strawman argument you tried weaseling in..naw not agreeing with BLM does not necessarily mean you support murder of minorities anymore then not agreeing with PETA means ones supports cruelty to animals

I've noticed that it's pretty routine for people to comment on things related to what they were messaged about even if they didn't reply directly to those people. So I doubt she's ignoring the comments so much as trying to not comment on them.

It's a bit more common to see this with journalists/pundits, likely because they're messaged much more often about opinions on events, but I think a lot of people do this to some extent as it's difficult to ignore a hundred people sending you arguments and comments that suggest you're wrong about something.

Thing is, it doesn't make it any less weird to feel like you need to become more reclusive in response to people disagreeing with you online. There are always going to be people that disagree with you on anything. There are people that think the world is flat for fuck's sake, would it be reasonable to want to essentially hide from their comments?
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greasywop 2016/09/23 18:33:36 No.1153340
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>>1153108
It wasnt the comic itself but the screencap(s) that were posted after...see for yourself...

the comic when it was posted here before u18chan had crashed
had no such thing...again it was ad's asinine opinions and hypocrisy...that also lead him to go back to delete decade old art in his FA gallery that had gore.

that being said just press the goddamn hide text button.

>>1146401

Edited at 2016/09/23 18:36:06
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Furrynomous 2016/09/23 20:07:26 No.1153424
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>>1153340

Like I said I have never posted here before, after reading the GP, yeah I made a shit post that adds nothing.

Thanks for pointing out relevance to the screencap(s), good point.

Lastly..... I had no idea there was a hide text option.... I do now, and it is my favorite button, I weep with joy.
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Dumb Homo 2016/09/29 02:15:59 No.1155965
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The reigning logic that "if a person has done something I dislike in the past, they are wrong about every opinion I don't agree with" is stupid as shit and the reason that the majority of politicians are uptight prunes. If we gave each other room to evolve and learn from our past mistakes then much better people would get a chance to run the country on every level.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 12:25:25 No.1156069
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>>1152970
yeah because twitter is a real hotbed of brilliant ideas lmfao. also what kind of creep saves photos of furry porno artists? what is wrong with you people can't you just look at porn and jack off and go to bed like normal humans
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 17:37:13 No.1156156
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 18:15:11 No.1156161
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I don't really give a fuck about anything that's happened in this thread. But is this guy
>>1146442
The "Rags" from youtube? With the Shiba wearing sunglasses? Didn't know he came around here.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 18:18:37 No.1156162
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>>1156156

yeah like how it made him go through pages of his FA gallery to delete gore rape images he did 10 years ago, make his account private and converted into a echo chamber yep...as a result of exposing what a asshat he but yeah he doesnt care...
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Garnet Furrynomous 2016/09/29 18:34:33 No.1156166
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>>1156162

A) He could've legitimately forgotten about those, B) you're the asshat for thinking people don't change opinions
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Rose Quarts shoulda went to Planned Parenthood 2016/09/29 18:46:54 No.1156168
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>>1156166

garnet....if you love licking his hairy hipster asshole so much..do not contribute to bumping this thread up...none of what you said applies btw..reading comprehension please..

he tweeted that he 'doesn't care' but given the fact he went through the trouble of going through ten years of posted work to delete specific submissions involving gore and rape..that contradicts not caring of what this board has to say..

what does this have to do with changing opinions..of course people do..that's not what I was talking about.
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Furrynomous 2016/09/29 20:12:34 No.1156183
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>>1156162
>>1156168
You are vastly overestimating this site's relevance/influence. I doubt he or 95% of furries even know what this site is. I guess it's more entertaining to just assume whatever makes you feel important?

You probably didn't notice but he deleted not only the pics that have been pointed out here but tons of other old drawings that were on his FA are gone too. But I guess you wouldn't notice that if you're obsessed with the handful of gore and rape commissions he did. A normal person might just assume he was just cleaning out old art from his gallery?
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urfuckingsrs? 2016/09/29 20:59:44 No.1156189
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arent you just as... if not more 'obsessed' for noticing the other old art gone, something you assumed I didnt notice meaning you had exclusive knowledge to as a result of lurking? but whatever...

btw he didnt delete all his old art mostly the gore and rape and the other chunks of non-gore-rape art within that page was prolly done as a result of doing so in a rush...collateral damage

also wow...what an excuse...you do realize what a coincidence it have to be for him to delete that work that had been there for literally a 'decade' up in till this lil shit storm happened...

the fact the moment he was aware of this..took the trouble to log in to his fa...go all the way back a decade to art nobody sees unless they see this thread...and delete it in a rush ...yeah he suddenly out of nowhere decided to go to an obscure part of his gallery and do just that...
also if nonone really didn't give a shit about this place why bother?

and you disprove your point in a way as well...with the need to white knight for him
which all you are failing at and merely bumping up this thread..just let it die to prove ur point its that simple...
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Furrynomous 2016/09/30 03:54:48 No.1156297
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>>1156189
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Furrynomous 2016/09/30 11:16:31 No.1156339
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He actually still had a lot of cub stuff in his gallery as well. The FA admins had been overlooking it all this time.
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Yes. Kel'Thuzad 2016/10/25 08:37:01 No.1167631
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My neferious plan is finally coming together, corrupting ArtDecade into being a shitlord will be the downfall of all of Azeroth Nyuck Nyuck, soon Jay Naylor will follow suit, and then. Zeta-Haru HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Edited at 2016/10/25 08:38:15
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Once upon a time 2017/10/03 11:12:42 No.1328819
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It was not so well as I thought
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 15:29:51 No.1328958
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haha lol, didnt know artdecade was such a looser.

The comic is nice tough.

Edited at 2017/10/03 15:30:14
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 10:50:19 No.1329341
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Just wondering why everyone is dumping on ArtDecade. I've spoken with him before and he was really nice :/ Not meaning to start a flame war just wondering where all the hate is coming from.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 10:54:49 No.1329345
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There was a time when he was a super Objectivist/Libertarian.

I hear from someone who knows him that he's chilled out alot on that stuff and is actually not a bad guy to talk to now.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 11:12:25 No.1329355
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Well he draws a hot porno, that much is true XD
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 22:23:20 No.1329696
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When was he ever objectivist/libertarian? Or are you trolling? AD gets hate because of his outspoken hatred of capitalism and personal liberties. He also likes to instigate fights.

People steal his art and post it here though, so the system works.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/05 00:33:02 No.1329740
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My personal experience with AD was, he was stuck up, rude, and just all in all a dick. That was both meeting him in person and chatting with him on Furaffinity before I blocked him.

Disliked him ever since.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/05 01:05:16 No.1329749
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>>1329696

So stealing the work from a dick makes them the better man? The ego of people here these days. Not that I am any better.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/10 10:47:23 No.1574424
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Jesus Christ.

This entire thread is the reason why Fap Mode exists.

All of you need a hobby and need to stop armchair experting shit you don't understand.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/10 11:59:18 No.1574442
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>>1574424

Hey, jackass. This thread's been dead and buried for a year and a half.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/10 12:31:43 No.1574459
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>>1574442
Welp, that's on me then.

Thought it was still current since it's been on page 2 or 3 for me.

My bad.

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