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Furrynomous 2017/09/08 18:10:47 No.1318858
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I bless this button every single day that people here insist that an IMAGE board should be allowed to be overrun with massive Westeros Ice Walls of text only tangentially related to the comic in question, especially when a section of the site already exists for said walls.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/08 18:57:29 No.1318900
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>>1318858

>complains about text on an image board

>proceeds to post more text on said image board

gg m8
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Furrynomous 2017/09/08 19:53:09 No.1318933
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haha flaming homosexual mods did it again. censoring speech. so here are the trigger words, foreskin, circumcision, free speech.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/08 20:18:21 No.1318954
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its honestly stupid at this point. why are the mods even bothering? tbh why do they give a fuck. theres a funciton to remove text for a reason.
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Mario583 2017/09/08 20:21:17 No.1318956
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>Hide Posts Without Images

>Still have to shift through macro images and reposts.

*All other posts will be deleted. *
Tanks

Edited at 2017/09/08 20:22:13
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Furrynomous 2017/09/08 21:28:10 No.1319003
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>>1318956
If you click the 'macro' button at the top of the page, that hides the macros. Also, the reposts are usually tagged as well and can be similarly hidden. All of your complaints are addressed by site features.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 01:11:18 No.1319097
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>>1319003
There are separate threads for discussion tho
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 02:07:36 No.1319134
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>>1319097
If the mods are this sensitive, they should just turn off text from being submitted. Images and tags only, no text. Fuck it.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/09 06:22:21 No.1319172
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>>1319134
Things got pretty out of hand, and this new batch of mods doesn't know how to ban effectively. They're not sensitive. They just suck and they know it so they handle shit the best way they know how: not very well.

>>1319097
That doesn't justify bitching about about non-issues. If you want to bitch about people being assholes that's fine, but bitching about derpa derpa too many people talking and macros when the solution to that is just a mouseclick away makes you as big a retard as the shitstormers.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 05:06:33 No.1320175
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>>1319172
>If you want to bitch about people being assholes that's fine, but bitching about derpa derpa too many people talking and macros when the solution to that is just a mouseclick away makes you as big a retard as the shitstormers.
How delusional.

Edited at 2017/09/11 05:06:51
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 08:41:05 No.1320202
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how sensitive about circumcision do mods have to be that mentioning it results in having every single comment destroyed and sent to a new discussion board where the original comments can't even be found.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 12:22:11 No.1320271
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>>1318956
>I have to sift through shitposting on an imageboard

Pretend that I posted a smug anime face.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 12:41:07 No.1320274
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>>1320202
I dunno, but you could say that the problem cuts deep :^)
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 16:55:08 No.1320343
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>>1320202

It's less that the mods are sensitive about it and more a matter of fucks like you turning every other thread into a flame war over it.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 18:04:20 No.1320368
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>>1320343

whats the difference between a "flame" war about circumcision and EVERY OTHER flame war on literally EVERY comic on this website? feel free to elaborate on your point.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 18:44:19 No.1320377
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>>1320368
It's about the scale. People raged and argued about some stupid shit like foreskins not being attached to their dicks and went up in arms about it instead of walking away from it. Yes, while one click of a button can hide those posts, I'm not sure keeping it there would do representing the furry community on this board any good. Granted, the furry community can be very toxic online, but there are those who just want to engage in healthy discussion about their favorite or hated doujins. Anything you say regarding criticism of one's content in a toxic fashion can be said in a normal and calm fashion. So why get yourself riled up over some shit like circumcision and insult others when you can just speak respectfully on the subject? This site has only proven time and time again to be incapable of healthy discussion on the simplest of matters. Being toxic is a choice; it's not who we are. So don't say, "It's censorship! CENSORSHIP, I SAY! THE HORRORRRR!!!!" because that's no excuse to be a piece of shit about something as small as a piece of shit.

The mods are right for what they did. You guys need to take a chill pill and not flip your shit over furry, fictitious circumcision.

Edited at 2017/09/11 19:30:39
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Furrynomous 2017/09/11 19:44:59 No.1320393
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>>1320377
To add onto what you are saying, even if it would have been contained to one thread it would have been more or less all right. It was, however, brought into multiple comic threads with the purpose to cause a problem. It was marginal at best in the comic thread it started in, but it got to the point of ridiculousness when the discussion spilled over into other threads where it both had not started and had no place being there.

The whole issue did not even start in this one thread, this was just one of the many that it was brought over to.
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TheKalvery 2017/09/13 03:58:05 No.1320777
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The only solution for this bullshit is for the site to ban text altogether. The tags are shit. Between the spam and ppl feeling the need to discuss everything in a section clearly remade because of more conversations than comic pages.

The mods or admins or whatever you want to call them need to start from scratch one more time and lock all text posts.
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Mario583 2017/09/13 17:13:15 No.1320929
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>>1319003
>click the 'macro' button thread tag
>hides the macros
Why didn't I think of this?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/15 00:14:59 No.1321439
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Furrynomous 2017/09/15 02:11:46 No.1321457
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The mods made a dick move when they deleted the original thread because of people complaining about Zaush's quality. I can't believe you just have to be such a dickhead to remove the original thread just because many people didn't like Zaush's bad quality.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/15 23:31:27 No.1321774
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 12:32:06 No.1323267
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Page 16 and 17 (Sketch) plase? xD
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 14:31:25 No.1323330
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 15:43:40 No.1323373
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>>1320393

Haha no no, it started when people were discussing why Meesh purposefully drew obvious circumcision scars on his cocks as if they were supposed to be erotic. That opened the discussion.
To call one topic trivial is just as pointless as calling any other topic trivial. What;s the difference between the shit posting in every other comic complaining about a lot of random useless shit, homos complaining about bisexual comics, trans shit, rape, incest, etc and talking about circumcision in comics that clearly depict it?
You can have them all, or none. Choose. Freedom for all, or freedom for none. Arbitrarily trying to dictate the topics of discussion on a gay furry comic board is a little beyond stupid.

Even in mystic tantra I remember the comment said, something like, "why the fuck is zaush drawing such shitty cocks" "does zootopia practica circumcision or is this the artists failure to know what penis looks like" stuff like that.

Regardless of if you agree or not, nuking entire threats for mentioning circumcision seems a bit like a conflict of interest and an abuse of power. mods clearly have sensitivities with the topic.

how can you expect people to not pass judgement on a pornographic comic that depicts genitals that have been surgically altered, and purposefully drawn to depict remnants of injury where knives have sliced them. like drawing all your porn characters with severed limbs really, why would the audience expect to find that sexy.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 15:59:17 No.1323391
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>>1323373

Everyone is fucking tired of hearing about this!
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 16:29:53 No.1323396
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>>1323373

"Haha no no, it started when people were discussing why I'm such a tool.

I'm a tool I'm a tool I'm a tool I'm a tool I'm a tool I'm a tool repeat for two more paragraphs, maybe discussing WHY I'm a tool."

Thank you, very insightful. You're a tool, it seems.

Edited at 2017/09/20 16:30:55
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 16:31:17 No.1323397
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>>1323373

You're going to help get this thread nuked again, you know.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 16:34:17 No.1323398
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>>1323397

He probably knows it.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 17:00:30 No.1323404
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>>1323373

No one cares you dumb cunt.

Edited at 2017/09/20 17:00:43
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 18:17:47 No.1323416
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Haha no one is asking anyone to give a fuck, stop pretending like someone is forcing you to carry a conversation XD you expressing your opinion is the exact opposite of not giving a fuck. You know how you show someone you don't care? Not saying anything. Which will never happen because the internet is full of opinionated people who think "SHUT UP" is an opinion. No one forced anyone to read comments. No one forced anyone to respond.

Comments getting nuked again does nothing but solidify the point. You can't silence ideas. Especially something as simple as an observation. If freedom of expression was respected there wouldn't be a constant battle. It would have been said, and done. but nope, people respond, people react, people bitch, people moan, and the conversation stays alive and well.

Oh well. what more do you expect from mods desperately clinging to air in hopes of containing it. Oh, nuke the threads, ban people, oh that works so well, clearly. It doesn't and it just makes it worse. fighting fire with gasoline.

figured people were curious about the real reason speech censorship was decided. Mod insecurity about a specific topic. circumcision. pointing towards the mods being insecure cut males that can't handle people talking negatively about their penises butchered by a knife. i can see why, its much easier to be in denial than to accept reality.

(And this ladies and gentlemen is why we made a thread in /d/ for said topic.)
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Furrynomous 2017/09/20 19:34:27 No.1323428
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>>1323416

>no one is asking anyone to give a fuck

Judging by your insistence in posting about this topic in a wholly irrelevant thread and thus derailing the thread into another potential nuking, you - yes, you! - are at least implying that we should give a fuck.

If you're done with your meaningless prattle, please shut the fuck up so the rest of us can get back to fapping in the rare moments where we are not dishing out hot takes about Zaush that will get this thread nuked in days instead of hours.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/21 12:50:17 No.1323692
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>>1323416

To be fair, this guy has a point. I'd say that the only reason this thread hasn't been nuked yet like before is simply because it is a Zaush thread. You don't just clean out an Adam "Rapist" Wan thread and NOT expect any backlash over it. Just like most of the shit that goes on in the Faf or Jay Naylor threads never gets nuked because the posters there would explode over it and attempting to contain it would only escalate things.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/22 13:06:45 No.1324141
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>>1323330

Any chance you could post the early sketches of the rest of the pages? They all got deleted with the old thread.
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I'm Loving it Noodle2501 2017/09/22 18:31:08 No.1324331
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I am loving this comic, please keep it cumming (wink). Additionally, please pay no mind to the negativity, you are doing wonderfully. I hope this orgy gets bigger though, too big for either of them to handle. I have my money on judy, she is a bunny after all.

The power of a creatively dirty mind, pure beauty
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Furrynomous 2017/09/22 19:50:01 No.1324369
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Why is Mr. "Circumcision is of the devil" still here though.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 02:31:05 No.1324503
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>>1324331
I'm pretty sure the artist isn't reading this

>>1324369
Circ does suck, but I think its just flame bait at this point
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 06:23:43 No.1324527
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Can we get an admin to keep an eye on this thread? And maybe clean up all these text replies? There's more talking and ranting and rabling going on than actual comic page posting here, which the former I'm pretty sure should go in the discussion board. >.>

Edited at 2017/09/23 06:24:40
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 13:57:49 No.1324628
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 16:23:06 No.1324663
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>>1324625
Those wolves on Nick, hot damn.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 16:36:27 No.1324674
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Based on the tally marks it looks like Nick's winning.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 17:14:11 No.1324688
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Look like Nick is winning pretty handily, since he took 4 guys in the time it took Judy to handle that lion.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 20:21:33 No.1324760
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Is that Gideon in panel 2?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/23 22:08:01 No.1324790
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>>1324688
She's not playing smart. Judy should have a huge advantage over Nick since she has 3 places to put a dick vs Nick's 2, but she keeps going one guy at a time
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Furrynomous 2017/09/25 15:06:43 No.1325389
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>>1324790
because Nick can't use his dick?
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Furrynomous 2017/09/30 21:27:45 No.1327499
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Is it just me or has Zaush completely given up on the background detail? In the earlier pages, you could tell everything was hand-drawn. Maybe I'm just going crazy, but I swear it's like the backgrounds in the more recent pages are just blurred screencaps from the movie with little to no effort put into them.

...And don't even get me started with the abysmal characterization of Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde in this comic. It's beyond insulting at this point.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/30 22:38:55 No.1327518
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>>1327499

Yeah, this went from interesting and sexy to lazy and almost insulting faster than that abysmal "Rite of Passage" comic.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/30 23:00:32 No.1327532
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>>1327518

Yeah, but it's not nearly as lazy and almost insulting as his "THEY'RE TOTALLY 18 YOU GUYS FOR REAL" Daddy's Little Secret comic or whatever the fuck that garbage was called.
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Furrynomous 2017/09/30 23:22:49 No.1327542
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>>1327532

If Zaush would just be honest for once, it would prevent a lot of the drama he's caused.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 11:21:42 No.1327798
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So basically... according to the movie, Nick ran away from home at age 9 after the cub scouts incident with the muzzle. Then he tells Judy that he's been running the popsicle scam since he was 12.

So in classic Zaush pedo style, in this comic Nick basically says that from age 9-12 he was on the street making money sucking dick and fucking older men. Then he met Fennick and they started the popsicle scam.

Zaush, just admit that you like children.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 11:36:00 No.1327800
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>>1327798
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Where did you get that from 9-12 Nick was sucking dick?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 12:12:34 No.1327809
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From visible tallies alone, Nick is at 25 and Judy is at 13. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, Nick is a flaming fag and won't go near anything with a vagina, and Judy probably won't either. Unless Judy steps up her game, Nick is gonna easy beat her by double her tally, even though they're both only going for guys.

Edited at 2017/10/01 13:36:36
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 13:02:31 No.1327817
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>>1327798

And now, to make matters worse, he portrays Nick as a "raging homosexual" simply because he's a fox. Nevermind the fact that the movie didn't even hint at the idea of Nick being gay, especially when you consider the fact that he was bullied as a kit and having him get pinned down and roughed up by a bunch of other guys would most likely just bring back uncomfortable memories of being muzzled, clearly he must be a "raging homosexual" simply because he's a fox, right? Remember, this is Zootopia we're talking about. The whole point of the movie's message was to avoid falling for stereotypes, not to reinforce them.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 13:39:01 No.1327820
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>>1327499
The BGs early on seem like a mix of drawn out and digitally rendered. But yeah, I agree on the BG part, the characters in how they are drawn stand out too much compared to the backgrounds now.
Plus the shading feels too simple, to the point they don't blend into the scene at all. Zaush needs to learn how to do some proper heavier shading and maybe add some color to the shading as well instead of black/grey with a filter over it, because it literally looks like he plopped a screenshot of the movie BG on and whatnot. Nothing looks like it.. idk.. fits in?
Kinda disappointing because I loved the rendered BGs of the actual interior before, only to get to this. Though the characters still kinda stuck out a bit in the interior room as well due to the same shading reasons. >.>

Edited at 2017/10/01 13:50:49
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 14:22:31 No.1327832
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>>1327798
I'm not sure the movie ever says he ran away from home, just that he gave up on being a nice person.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 17:08:51 No.1327876
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>>1327800

Basic math. Nick's childhood incident happened when he was about 8 or 9, according to him, and he claims to have been a hustler since he was 12. That means the only way this comic could possibly fit into the canonical timeline established by the movie would be if the whole Nick being a prostitute thing happened between those years, meaning that Nick would've been getting debauched at the ripe old age of around 9 to 12 years old. That's pretty messed up if you ask me.

Either that or Zaush just couldn't bother to look into the actual source material when he was supposedly doing his research. Either way, it's bad writing.

Edited at 2017/10/01 17:10:00
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 18:32:39 No.1327914
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>>1327876
There are numerous inconsistencies from the film to here, so I am willing to bet the latter.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 18:51:11 No.1327931
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>>1327876

So could we move this into cub then?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/01 20:41:19 No.1328008
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>>1327931
I see no cub smut
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 06:21:19 No.1328265
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>>1327817
second this
It's one thing to make a porn parody of the source material and it's another to shit on everything is was suppose to stand for.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 09:53:40 No.1328321
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Mystic tantra (Gideon Scene Wip)... please? c:
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Dur21 2017/10/02 10:43:47 No.1328338
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* Thread turns into argument about Zaush possibly being a Pedo and Nick's age even though he was clearly older than a teenager in the Prostitute panel.*


*Mods nuke thread again.*
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Furrynomous 2017/10/02 11:28:05 No.1328353
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>>1328338

I'm pretty sure it's a rule on this site that people bitch about anything they can think of even if it's obviously not the case.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 06:38:25 No.1328749
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No one here put money in to this comic so why do any of you give a fuck about the quality of it? The dude can do whatever he wants.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 06:39:36 No.1328750
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If you don't like what you're seeing then fuck off somehwere else
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 06:55:35 No.1328755
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>>1328749

I didn't put any money into the roads either, that doesn't mean I don't care whether or not they re paved.

Edited at 2017/10/03 06:55:52
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 09:14:12 No.1328795
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>>1328755

Underage or unemployed?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 13:17:47 No.1328920
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>>1328755

Well done on truly thoughtless analogy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 13:20:56 No.1328921
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How people can feel entitled to a quality produced comic when they haven't contributed anything towards it is beyond me. If you don't like it you're in the wrong thread.
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D 2017/10/03 14:05:58 No.1328932
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>>1328755
Do you know what taxes are?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 14:14:20 No.1328937
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>>1328932
*facepalm* I can't with the users on this site.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 14:46:04 No.1328944
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>>1328932
>>1328795

I don't pay taxes I sell opiates for a living and I'm somewhat well off.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 14:48:55 No.1328945
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>>1328944

So underage, then?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 18:05:30 No.1329010
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>>1328945

No, but most of my clients are.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 19:14:13 No.1329047
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>>1329010

Whatever you have to say to make your internet penis feel bigger than your real one, dude.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 19:27:38 No.1329057
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>>1329047

My dick's bigger than yours

If I were to post a dick pic on "post your naked body" thread, this site would crash due to filesize.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/03 19:38:18 No.1329063
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>>1329057

Right...
Please see
>>1328945
for further discussion of how pathetic you are.
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Maybe try to be helpful with the criticism guys? Furrynomous 2017/10/03 20:18:50 No.1329083
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>>1329063
Could you both stop bitching like little kids? And if you insist on doing so at least TAG you responses.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 02:13:51 No.1329204
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>>1329063

Sounds like you must have had a tough day at -work- lol
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New WIP Page Furrynomous 2017/10/04 07:03:34 No.1329245
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Does anyone have the new WIP page that was posted?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 10:48:24 No.1329340
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>>1328749
Imagen something you really really like, like the nerds obsessed over the StarWars movies or Lord of The Rings.

Now imagen someone making a horrid shitty porn comic about it where he destroys and misrepresents the characters you care deeply for, like superman going for an unstoppable raping/killing rampage, and instead of writing it off as some AU stuff with an evil superman it tries to fit it into the canon.

Fuck that man, I find this comic extreemly offensive to my fandom and I'm not alone with that. This comic has only supporters in the general furry sites, on any more zootopia themed section it gets nothing bad bad-mouthing. Some Zootopia porn groups doesn't even accept it's existance or have it banned because it only gets negative feedback.

Why are we pissed if we didn't invest money into it? Well why do you think none of us did? How many people voted for the Judy and Nick theme comic option by expecting a comic WITH and ABOUT them and their relationship.

I'm sorry am I really the only one in the entire furry fandom who has a thing for comics that portray loving relationships instead of this swinger, sex with strangers and cucking stuff? It's booring and it was right about time Adam would've tried to something else.

Instead we go a comic where Judy fuck everyone BUT Nick and Nick fucks everyone BUT Judy. Literally NOT A SINGLE fan of zootopia had that in mind. We were looking forward for WildeHopps instead we get it hammered into our face that "Lol, nope, Nick is gay and Judy doesn't like him like that AT ALL."

you ask "if you don't like it why don't you just walk away". Well, the comic pisses me off and saying my honest opinion about it helps me calm down. It's the freedom of speech man, deal with it. I have the right to tell the comic is shit and you have the right to tell me that my opinion is shit. What you don't have, is the right to tell me to shut up.

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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 11:01:31 No.1329348
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>>1329340
I think "Not a single fan" not wanting Wilde/Hopps is a bit of a misnomer, as there's quite a lot of Zootopia fans that prefer Nick and Judy as friends.

I certainly understand and respect why you don't like this comic, though when it comes to pairing stuff, not every pairing will be 100% supported by the fanbase. This is even true for the pairings canon supports and confirms. Hell, we had people here arguing that Bucky and Pronk were NOT a gay married couple, despite the fact the Zootopia creators had come forth and specifically confirmed that.

Edited at 2017/10/04 11:03:55
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 11:12:37 No.1329357
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what is this? :o
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 11:38:05 No.1329366
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>>1329348
>Not every zootopia fan wants Nick and Judy to be more than friends
True. Around 15% of the fanbase if we can trust the votes on numerous websites where pro-WildeHopps always wins with around 75%.
But the few anti-Wildehopps fans I persoanlly met are either:
1, retards who ship them with their self-insert OCs
2, SJW warriors with their irrelevant "male/female protags don't always have to be romantically involved!" reasoning, that totally disregards their chemistry.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 11:57:29 No.1329370
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>>1329366
I don't think you can use successfully lump Zootopia fans who don't ship Wilde/Hopps into only those two categories, since it is only based on only your personal experience. The pairing is indeed popular, but different viewers will reach different conclusions. You CAN have good chemistry with friends, but I can also completely understand why people see the romantic angle with those two.

(For the record, I sort of ship them too but I've met many that don't that do not fall into those labels.)
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 12:27:15 No.1329387
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It's kinda hard for me to pair Nick and Judy with anyone else at this point.
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Personally... Furrynomous 2017/10/04 14:55:28 No.1329453
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I actually don't want them to get together in canon say in the next movie as I'm kind of tired of all this "and they fell in love and lived happily ever after" crap we get from companies like Disney all the time. I want them to date and fail, to see them struggle with their feelings. Date other people. Heck make them the Zootopian equivalent of subconscious racists who can't in soem ways see past one species. I want to see the true journey of their struggle as characters to just settle for being good friends, become lovers, or even see their relationship fall apart. I want to witness it. That's all. The state of their relationship as it's displayed in fanfiction doens't generally concern me unless it falls into that pit of not working in canon. Because not every universe is a multiverse, not every universe is an omniverse. For some what we see is what we get. So until it's established that it's part of a multiverse or omniverse, if you deviate entirely from the original source material or do a 180 with the characters to "tell your story" I'm going to bitch, whine and moan about it. Because I hoped, I wished I dared to dream that the fans...could do much better.

But that's just me.

(And yes, I gave myself the tag cry_baby...because I know how utterly childish i'm being right now. I'm a fan of the Spyro before he was in Skylanders okay...I'm seen the crap i love be shat all over enough, so i'm kind of trying to fight it with new things I love. God, I sound like the annoying adults from when I was a kid...urgh...does this mean they were right?)
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Jamison 2017/10/04 16:04:44 No.1329502
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While I would love to see them get together as it kind of ties into the movies themes, I also enjoy this comic (not the story of it, but its good porn). I mean, instead of the bashing, why not just not acknowledge it? Being kind of forceful with your opinions arent yall?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 16:46:09 No.1329535
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>>1329387

Have you tried to imagine them with characters from othr shows like Rugrats?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/04 23:10:19 No.1329720
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>>1329535
Could you at least have picked a different show?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/05 10:17:19 No.1329864
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>2, SJW warriors with their irrelevant "male/female protags don't always have to be romantically involved!" reasoning, that totally disregards their chemistry.

You are exactly this kind of guy.
You don't want something to happen just because it happened elsewhere.
>Oh, don't make laserswords a thing in your sci-fi story, star wars already has those
>You can't make the main bad-guy the father of the hero, that's already done to death

This reasoning is not relevant to the story or the characters's lifes, it's only relevant to you as a watcher/reader.

You can't look at Judy and Nick as living, breathing, thinking personalities instead of just "characters" that tell a story.

When I say I support wildehopps, I don't just saying because I think they could look good together (despite that they do) I support wildehopps because it makes sense for their characters to develop something for eachother after what they went through together and how they bonded.

Your reasoning disregards that, what they would want as characters, what would come natural for them. You don't say "It would not work between them" you just say "I don't want it to work" and that attitude in writing is bad. Characters should be allowed to do what comes naturally for them based on their previous actions and personalities, otherwise you just manipulate the story and the events and ruins the flow of the story.
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Redtail 2017/10/05 10:54:15 No.1329887
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Greeaattt, let's turn another thread into "I'm triggered. Wildehopps is OTP!1!111!1".

Go back to Tumblr and bitch about your ships.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 13:48:06 No.1330360
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>>1329348

>"We had people here arguing that Bucky and Pronk were NOT a gay married couple, despite the fact the Zootopia creators had come forth and specifically confirmed that."

When? When was that ever specifically confirmed? If you're referring to this tweet by Jared Bush, which I'm assuming you are, then that's just one person's headcanon. Their marital status is never mentioned in the movie, nor is it really even hinted at (aside from the fact that they share an apartment). It might as well just be JK Rowing claiming that Dumbledore from the Harry Potter series was gay all along all over again. While it's true that Jared Bush was one of the writers of the movie, that doesn't change the fact that ultimately, unless it's directly confirmed in a sequel or something, it's still just up for speculation at this point.

Besides, I have yet to hear from anyone else involved in the making of the movie saying Bucky and Pronk are a gay couple. Not even Byron Howard, the main mind behind Zootopia (and also a married gay person) himself, has bothered to specify whether the rumors are true or not. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. Either way, it really isn't important to the story at all, and I think that was kinda supposed to be the point.

Edited at 2017/10/06 13:49:29
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 14:22:11 No.1330364
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>>1330360

Qccording to this logic, there will never be a gay couple in a Disney animated movie. You know why?

Because no matter how many same-sex couples appear on-screen sharing their names, living together, and possibly even raising a baby (see: Finding Dory), there will always be someone to point out that said characters haven't taped a "YES WE ARE A COUPLE" to the fourth wall.
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Nox 2017/10/06 15:24:55 No.1330369
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>>1330360

So one of the writers aka creators of said characters, tells you the 2 are a cay couple and its not enough proof. but if its a straight couple without writing on the wall or marriage in the movie, it's believable?? and the sole creator for a series of books and movies answers the question of one of her main characters sexuality being that of the gay-persuasion and you say that isnt true because the character doesnt just come out and say it in the movies/books.

Have you ever stopped to think that they dont do to the lengths to address their characters sexuality because 1. it has no bearing to the story and 2. it ultimately doesnt matter what their preference is. you know, kinda how it doesnt matter in the real world either??

do you go around asking people you see in public if they are gay and then ask them to prove it with something other than their own admittance?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 17:59:38 No.1330402
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>>1330369

The point I'm trying to make is that people need to stop grasping for straws, using something as trivial as one comment on Twitter by a tertiary writer, and treating it as if it's the Word of God. Take the "lesbian couple" in Finding Dory for example. Never in their five seconds of screentime is any homosexaulity implied at all. They had one exchange of dialogue and it wasn't even remotely related to the characters' relationship. Despite all the excessive drama and boycotting (which failed miserably, by the way), the only "lesbian" content in the movie was those two background characters who happened to be juxtaposed next to each other for one moment. Anything beyond that is literally just left up for interpretation. Yet despite that, people still fell for it and drama ensued over pretty much nothing.

>Have you ever stopped to think that they dont go to the lengths to address their characters' sexuality because it has no bearing to the story and it ultimately doesn't matter whatinsubstantialwwqnce is. You know, kinda like how it doesn't matter in the real world, either?

That's exactly what I'm saying! The whole reason I take issues with the whole "is such and such character gay or whatnot" ordeal is because it's ultimately pointless. For example, who cares whether or not Clawhauser is gay? I mean he most likely isn't, considering this movie's message is about defying stereotypes and all, but that's beside the point. If your claims about some fictional character's sexuality are so insubstantial that they aren't even considered relevant to the source material, maybe it's not even worth bringing up in the first place.

Edited at 2017/10/06 18:05:25
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Ethos 2017/10/06 18:07:51 No.1330404
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>>1330402

For example, who cares whether or not Clawhauser is gay? I mean he most likely isn't, considering this movie's message is defying stereotypes and all, but that's beside the point.

Yeah, you're right. They're likely 30 or 40 years old, they go shopping together to buy food, they argue like an old couple and they live together in a small flat, but they're probably... Room mates ?

Oh, and one of the writer said they were gay but, golly, that's probably just a coincidence.
I mean, neverminds the fact. I don't want them to be gay so they're probably not.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 19:01:19 No.1330416
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>>1330404

A writer who also voiced one of them, and CO-DIRECTED the movie.

It's not straws we're grasping at, it's a freaking hay bale.

Edited at 2017/10/06 19:01:37
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RE: Personally... Furrynomous 2017/10/06 20:34:38 No.1330438
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You misunderstand. I'm saying I don't want them to just "get together" since that's how these things usually go. the next movie they're a couple, end of. 3rd movie they have kids. 4th movie they're relegated to background characters with the kids becoming the major focus.

I don't want this. I want them to struggle before we see them together. Because we never do, not in a kids series. i think the closest we've ever gotten is Avatar: The Legend of Aang - The Last Aibender. And even THAT was a forgone conclusion.

What I want is for us as viewers to ahve doubt about them being together put into us, about us thinking they might be better off as friends or even saying they should never have met in the first place. Heck even make us think "Bellweather should have won" and THEN lead them to a great ending.

If that's them together, living happily ever after, great. If they end up hating one another and vying for the separation of Prey and Predator on a societal level, also great. I just want the story to be more than the equivalent of the Dr. Dolittle movies...ya know since the last 3 have been about everyoen BUT the original Dr. Dolittle himself.

Zootopia is a great story (not perfect, but one of the good ones), and has an incredibly built universe. I want that to be expanded, I want it to be explored, and THEN I want them having gone through hell and back, before they reach the final ending.

What's so wrong with that?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/06 22:57:15 No.1330470
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>>1330416
That's the thing too. The characters also have hyphenated last names, which also fits with the marriage theory. If anything, there's a jumping through hoops people have to do to claim they're straight brothers, especially when it has been confirmed otherwise.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 00:16:57 No.1330491
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>>1330404

Who is this "they" you're referring to? Clawhuaser is just one character.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 00:25:36 No.1330495
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>>1330470

Obviously I'm not denying the possibility of Bucky and Pronk being a gay couple, but it's still merely implied at most. It's not like their marital status is straight up mentioned like with Mr. and Mrs. Otterton.

Edited at 2017/10/07 00:53:41
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 00:38:46 No.1330530
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>>1329340

Well said. A lot of us aren't supporting Zaush specifically because of his obnoxious attitude and insulting characterization. Like a lot of people said back in the old thread, we were clearly tricked into thinking we'd be getting treated to some good old fashioned WildeHopps, only to get bait-and-switched with a lazily written gay sex orgy with a bunch of background characters that literally nobody asked for. If that isn't a blatant slap in the face to any Zootopia fans who used to like his artwork, I don't know what is. Add to that the fact that he deliberately blocks people who call him out on FurAffinity, and it's no wonder why so many of us are upset.

Edited at 2017/10/07 01:06:03
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 03:44:44 No.1330612
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What gay orgy are you talking about ? 50-ish% of the pages are Hopps getting plowed. If only it actually was a gay orgy, that way it would actually be in the right board section instead of showing tits and pussy where it doesn't belong.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 04:35:21 No.1330639
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>>1329340

i'm totally on your side with this.
and i already told zaush that via patreon, what i think about this comic.

Edited at 2017/10/07 04:36:52
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 06:19:58 No.1330659
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 08:39:12 No.1330752
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>>1330659
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 09:58:09 No.1330762
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>>1330659
Gideon is THICC
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 11:16:31 No.1330768
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>>1330659
Kinda wish she would fuck Gideon now, he's best fox! but the sex is over
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Anon 2017/10/07 11:24:05 No.1330770
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TBH, I've never thought of Gideon as straight. Honestly, I was expecting him to be one of Nick's scores here
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 11:47:19 No.1330776
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>>1330770
Bi is best, he doesn't have to limit
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 12:01:38 No.1330781
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>>1330776
bi is just closetcase homosexuality, just one foot out and give a little time for the other to come out
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 12:17:31 No.1330807
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>>1330781
bi is just closetcase heterosexuality, just one foot out and give a little time for the other to come out
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wolfyy.exe 2017/10/07 17:09:57 No.1330915
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That's kinda stupid though
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Furrynomous 2017/10/07 21:00:17 No.1330952
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>>1330612

More like 25%, with most of it not even being the main focus. We just see Zaush lazily reusing the same side angle over and over without ever getting a chance to see Judy get any action with Nick. Kinda disappointing if you ask me.

Pretty much everything else was just Nick uncharacteristically bottoming for every other guy in sight like a stereotypical gay furry fox. All in all, it just looks like Zaush put as little effort into this comic as possible, giving his followers the bare minimum.

Also, there are no human "tits" in Zootopia, so I have no idea where you got that from.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/08 02:23:20 No.1331024
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Maybe because you can see her taking off her bra on page 3 ? Wouldn't need those if there weren't any tits.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/08 11:15:45 No.1331156
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>>1331024

That's actually an undershirt. You can see her wearing it in the movie.
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Anon-whatever 2017/10/08 16:22:16 No.1331242
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Stop bitching about Nick and Judy not fucking.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/08 17:19:27 No.1331259
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>>1331242

It's hard not to when the guy who made this comic deliberately teased his audience with a WildeHopps story premise.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 01:32:40 No.1331394
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Meh, rather have a comic not focusing on Wildehopps for once.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 04:03:22 No.1331427
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>>1331394
Same, but appearently that's literally the ONLY ship this cruddy fanbase cares about enough to 'protect', you can't do anything else with the two MCs in terms of shipping, only pair them together or face the fandom's rage. :/

Edited at 2017/10/09 04:03:52
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 09:09:26 No.1331522
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No he didn't. Zaush said NOWHERE in the poll that there was gonna be wildehopps in the comic, just that it was gonna have Nick and Judy in it. Having the MCs in a comic that the majority of the fandom ship together does not automatically mean this is gonna be a wildehopps comic as well.

FFS people, this is why I hate the ships fanbase, you literally want no other shipping with the MCs to exist except Wildehopps and once someone does something different you witch hunt them to death about it, stop hurting yourself over the fact that Zaush isn't pairing the two together like LITERALLY EVERY OTHER ZOOTOPIA COMIC ON THESE BOARDS.

Edited at 2017/10/09 09:10:57
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 10:20:17 No.1331570
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I want a piece of Gideon
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 10:31:40 No.1331572
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Needs more NickXSkye
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 10:36:06 No.1331579
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That's why so many people are leaving the Zootopia Reddit, it's nothing but Wildehopps and people getting triggered if you don't spam the place with Wildehopps pics and fanfics.



Don't even get me started on the higher-ups. Acting like the gods of Wildehopps and will critique you for not mentioning their OTP.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 12:12:34 No.1331629
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This comic is crappy zootopia comic. Nick and Judy are unrecognizable, I look at a stereotypical furry fox and a furry bunny. I don't care that it's not wildehopps, but I do care that it's delibertly avoids the pairing with forced changes in their personalities.

It's good gay porn and that's about it. This comic would get far less backlash with a fox and a bunny OCs, because that's what these are. OCs with Nick's and Judy's skin on them... why make a zootopia comic if you don't like the original characters?

Fuck Adam, and everyone really believeing this is a "fan" work. These are basically as much Judy and Nick as in that retarted abortion comic on deviantaArt
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 21:45:53 No.1331932
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>>1331394
>>1331427
>>1331522
>>1331579

Have any of you anti-WildeHopps people here ever thought about taking a step back to actually consider WHY so many fans ship Nick and Judy so devoutly? Chances are, if you did, you'd quickly find that there are a lot of people who would simply like to see these two characters who they found they could genuinely relate to, who they witnessed bonding together throughout the film, and who show that they genuinely care for each other, continue to develop and deepen their relationship romantically.

Let's not kid ourselves here. The writers of the movie were pretty much begging for fans to ship the two main leads when you take into account just how open the ending of the story was for interpretation. In fact, a lot of them have even acknowledged the shippers and given them shout-outs in various interviews and whatnot.

Add to that the fact that Zaush's initial pitch for this comic was basically "Nick and Judy go to the naturalist club and get into some uncomfortable situations", and it's no wonder why so many people got at least a little bit of a WildeHopps vibe from that synopsis. I mean it's not like this would've even been the first time Zaush has drawn Nick and Judy together. He's been doing WildeHopps fanart since before the movie even came out, for crying out loud!

Listen, I understand where a lot of you people are coming from. Even I can get a little tired of seeing so much WildeHopps content everywhere. But even then, at the very least, it's still understandable why there are so many shippers here to begin with. It's one thing to want some more variety, it's another to SCAPEGOAT THE ENTIRE ZOOTOPIA FANDOM, complaining about how "cruddy" the community is for not directly catering to your specific tastes like a self-entitled stick in the mud. The truth is, if you're still somehow having trouble wrapping your heads around how so many people can be so enthusiastic about one romantic pairing, perhaps you're looking in the wrong places, because there are PLENTY of fanfics and comics out there with little to no romance at all that I could easily recommend to you in a heartbeat.

Edited at 2017/10/09 21:50:33
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 22:10:45 No.1331940
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>>1331932
TL;DR
You really just wrote a thesis on why Judy and nick should be shipped...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 22:55:49 No.1331963
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>>1331940
I think the 'get a life' line applies to that champ.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 23:07:38 No.1331971
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>The truth is, if you're still somehow having trouble wrapping your heads around how so many people can be so enthusiastic about one romantic pairing, perhaps you're looking in the wrong places, because there are PLENTY of fanfics and comics out there with little to no romance at all that I could easily recommend to you in a heartbeat.

We're trying to enjoy one right here, in this very thread, and you entitled spergs won't quit bitching about it.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/09 23:19:53 No.1331973
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I'm just here for the porn and so far its been pretty good. :D
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 02:38:14 No.1332016
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>>1331973
I think that's another stuff. I have read plenty of non-wildehopps comics that I enjoyed. I have no serious trouble with that Nick x Bogo comic either, despite that it's clear that it's a cheating comic. I can look over that because it's just porn. Like, less than 1/8 of the comic is not-porn but exposition.

This comic wastes waaay too much time on unsexy exposition pages, overexplaining the setting. If it would be just a blank set of images of Nick and Judy going to the natural club and have a fun orgy, I would have no problem with it. This repetitious "Nick is gay" and "Judy isn't interested in him at all" is just offensive, a middle finger to the shippers. He could've made a non-wildehopps comic without bashing the shippers, letting everyone understand the situatio the way they would like to.

If there is a reason we are here bashing the comic, it's because Zaush wanted us to find the comic upsetting.
He just seems like a troll from the way he is making the comic.
>lolol, look at me, I'm totally not jumping on the shipping train with this one, this is so original and makes so much sense, lololol
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 09:35:41 No.1332095
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>>1332016
While I do agree that Zaush has become a mediocre artist and a terrible writer, this comic isn't actively trolling WildeHopps fans. He said from the moment it was announced that Nick was gonna be gay through this and that has been it. You may feel teased and disappointed that he's not fucking Judy in spite of her presence and that's fine, anybody who ships goes through the same things, but you're going way overboard in defending a frustration and accusing the artist of deliberately trolling a set of shippers when he left his intentions very clear from the start. So... calm down, and accept this poorly conceived comic is a cash grab that wasn't made to please WildeHopps fans, but neither to troll them.

Edited at 2017/10/10 09:36:06
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Redtail 2017/10/10 10:21:18 No.1332104
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Long rants like that are one of the reasons people in the fanbase are getting sick of the shippers.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 10:22:22 No.1332105
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Zaush probably shipped them before the movie came out, that's when he did all the Wildehopps drawings. He probably doesn't ship them anymore since I don't think he's drawn any Wildehopps stuff since.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 10:24:52 No.1332106
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omg, get over it
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 16:11:46 No.1332223
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It is a bloody porn comic.
If you don't like it, grab a pencil, and draw something better.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 16:51:47 No.1332230
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>>1332223
For a porn comic there is way too much booring exposition and bad dialogue in it to justify the porn.
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Pgs. 18 & 19 Sketches Posted Furrynomous 2017/10/10 17:03:54 No.1332232
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Does anyone have the sketches that were posted of pgs 18 & 19?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 17:36:07 No.1332246
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page 19 sketch
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:02:12 No.1332254
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"Even"?

I guess Judy can't count.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:09:43 No.1332255
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:31:38 No.1332260
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>>1332246
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:42:03 No.1332264
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>>1332260
>Gay prostitute Nick
>Nick and Judy as turbosluts
>Judeon
>Cucking Sharla

It's like the anon at zootopia general said.

This comic works with the perfect formula to piss any actual diehard fan off.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:45:32 No.1332268
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I'd rather the comic just cut the bullshit and show us more of the lion/panther/wolves.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 18:51:24 No.1332269
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>>1332246
oh thank god, i was worried he wasn't gonna be able to sneak some Cucking into this at all.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 21:05:16 No.1332303
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nice.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 21:06:11 No.1332304
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>>1332269

Come on, this is Zaush. Of course someone is getting cheated on.

Also, Judy can't count for shit. Like, holy fuck, girl. Even? Only of your tallies count as doubles.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/10 23:36:31 No.1332365
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>cuck
>cuck
>cuck
It's not cucking unless Sharla watches, you chimps. It's cheating. Stop trying to meme a buzzword into something else.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 02:30:57 No.1332398
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How dare Zaush use artistic freedom to make free content I don't like! The fool doesn't even realize that his actions have sealed his fate; I've sent ten shinobi of the butthurt furry clan straight to his house. It's only a matter of time...

Edited at 2017/10/11 02:32:39
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 04:15:39 No.1332410
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>>1332105
Drawing two characters fucking their brains out a few times =/= shipping them as a whole.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 04:18:20 No.1332412
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>>1332246
I prefer the JudyXGideon ship over the Wildehopps one anyways.

Edited at 2017/10/11 06:38:03
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 08:13:47 No.1332441
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>>1332398
>autistic freedome
Judeon is suppose to be a meme in the fandom. It's like making porn of pepe the frog.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 09:30:04 No.1332483
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 12:08:12 No.1332507
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>>1329887
>>1331940
>>1331963
>>1331971

I'm not "bitching" here, I'm simply making a point. It's one thing to simply make a gay Zootopia fan comic, it's another to deliberately go out of one's way to tease the WildeHopps fanbase (or just anyone who doesn't want to imagine Nick Wilde as a gay child prostitute, for that matter) with a rigged poll on Patreon simply for the sake of duping them for more money.

Edited at 2017/10/11 12:28:36
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 12:20:40 No.1332510
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>>1332246

>"Not the most progressive corner of the world."

You know, I really can't stand it when fanfic writers try to portray Judy Hopps as some liberal feminist, using PC buzzwords like "progressive" and having some sort of disdain for her "conservative" family. It's so out of character for her and comes off as forced mouthpiecing.
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Shipgate Furrynomous 2017/10/11 12:29:43 No.1332513
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Basically:

"It's one thing to make a comic I don't like, it's another to make a comic I REALLY don't like. Can't wait till the next update."

is what I'm seeing here. Some of you live in quite the weird angry bubble.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 12:55:17 No.1332518
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"Teasing"?

He literally said they would be in a comic. Stop assuming every comic Nick and Judy are going to be in is automatically going to be Wildehopps.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 13:02:36 No.1332521
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I had no idea that you could make a whole fandom based on just shipping people. That's so dumb.

Also there is so much Judy and Nick porn, I'm confused as to why people don't just avoid the ones that don't appeal to them. Does every fanfic involving Zootopia have to fit your narrow view of it?

Also this is porn, not a storyboard.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 13:12:52 No.1332525
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>>1332513
>>1332518
>>1332521

Right... That's why he stated that AFTER people paid for the comic to be made!

Look, I don't care if he makes a gay comic. It's not about how much I personally like or dislike the comic itself. The problem is that he basically lied to his paying customers and is now trying to cover his tracks by blocking anyone who talks about it on sites like FurAffinity.

Edited at 2017/10/11 13:14:46
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 13:26:17 No.1332528
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>>1332525
You're being a broken record and nothing more. Zaush did not 'lie' to anyone, Zaush did not say anywhere that there was gonna be the WildeHopps ship in the comic. He ONLY said that it had Nick and Judy in it. A.k.a. in the comic. Not that they were gonna bang.

Stop getting hurt over the fact that for once someone isn't shipping the two main characters together like near everyone else does in this damn fandom.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 13:44:06 No.1332531
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>>1332528
The theme was "Nick makes Judy uncomfortable"
not
"Nick and Judy fuck everyone at the nude club."
don't pretent the first one doesn't have a shippy theme to it. It would've been about THEM. This comic... this is not about them. This is about an orgy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:24:35 No.1332545
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My god you are in such denial.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:28:56 No.1332546
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>>1332531

Exactly! The whole storyline of this comic is a blatant bait-and-switch and everyone knows it. Even Zaush himself has basically admitted it at this point.

Besides, just because some of us actually LIKE Judy and Nick's relationship and don't want to see it reduced to them bickering about dildoes while getting sandwitched by gayified background characters doesn't make us "butthurt" or "in denial". It just means that we actually have a legitimate appreciation for the source material. Whether you ship them or not, there's no denying that there are better ways to write these characters than as talking fleshlights with no likable personality traits.

Edited at 2017/10/11 14:31:10
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:28:59 No.1332547
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Honestly was wondering who was gonna fuck Mr. Otterton, because that would have had cheating AND otters.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:34:29 No.1332550
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>getting this upset because an artist draws porn of characters acting unlike themselves

unbelievable chromosome counts detected.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:40:37 No.1332554
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>>1332547

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised at how fast he disappeared from the plot. I mean he's been right there the whole time, yet he only shows up for a couple panels at the beginning, with no mention of his wife.

In fact, come to think of it, wouldn't that be a far more interesting storyline? What if instead of having Nick and Judy arguing the whole comic, we instead got to see Emmit introducing his wife to the naturalist club? It would make a lot more sense in terms of fitting into the events of the movie and it would give Zaush a better excuse to draw more otters.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/11 14:42:59 No.1332555
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>>1332550

Only if by "unbelievable" you mean 46.

Also, how is that relevant?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 13:32:03 No.1332906
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This is a porn comic, not some emotional Fanfiction.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 17:20:49 No.1332931
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>>1332906
I like my porn without convoluted headcanon explenations to justify it

>Nick mocking Judy that she probably didn't have any action since she arrived in the city
>Judy having dildos of the gay neighbors.
>Fucking protitute Nick (that doesn't even fit the canon)

all of these things are just unncesery shit taste stuff that takes me out from the setting.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 19:01:04 No.1332971
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>>1332931
>forced plot devices everywhere
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 22:06:03 No.1333028
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 22:27:18 No.1333036
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>>1333028
why does this one look like you found it on a hard drive from 2002
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 22:57:39 No.1333041
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>>1333028
How cute is this
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Furrynomous 2017/10/12 23:33:37 No.1333046
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>>1333028
Gideon is hot. Glad he's getting some Judy ass
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 00:35:47 No.1333062
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Better?
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B6a2PTb06ODTRU00VHFPOFY0Zjg
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 00:37:13 No.1333063
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>>1333046
Right? I was hoping we weren't only going to get teased with Gideon. Been waiting for that hunky fox to re-appear.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 00:51:40 No.1333068
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>>1333063
>Gideon
>fox
wrong anon, Gideon barely counts as a fox. Foxes suppose to be slick, smart and funny. He is fat, scruffy and a dumb childhood bully, who simply learns to not to be a total douche by the end of the flick.

Edited at 2017/10/13 00:52:11
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A Concerned Stalker 2017/10/13 01:44:32 No.1333077
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>>1333068

This is the dumbest comment I've ever seen lmao.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 02:23:32 No.1333086
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 02:33:25 No.1333088
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>>1333086

Ughhhhhhh why do people insist on shipping Gideon and Sharla in the first place? Sharla was bullied horribly by Gideon and even though he's definitely a better person now I find it highly unlikely that she'd want to enter a romantic relationship with him. Also in my head at least I always thought of Gideon as gay or at least closeted which is where all his "self doubt that manifested itself in the form of unchecked rage and aggression" came from. Now, I love Gideon as a character, he's honestly my favorite from Zootopia. Hell I've even written fanfiction about him. But I just don't get Sharleon or Judeon. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 02:39:36 No.1333090
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Geeze.... Is all the characters from zootopia gonna appear in this even..Giselle...aka Shakira....
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 02:58:20 No.1333095
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>>1333088
because Gideon tapped that rabbit back at the fair long ago and she has been craving the fox dick ever since
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Gfox 2017/10/13 04:28:02 No.1333107
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God I love Gideon he was my favoret fox Nick is cool but there's just that special somthing about Gids that make wanna cuddle and kiss him all over
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 05:50:45 No.1333144
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>>1333068
Him showing he's learned to not to be an asshole near the end to the movie is the best part of his character imo. I'd like to see more 'childhood bully' characters redeem themselves like that really.

I kinda 'get' Judeon, basically like a 'from enemies to friends to lovers' thing.

Edited at 2017/10/13 05:53:27
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 06:46:20 No.1333155
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>>1333068
Nick and Gideon are both red foxes, just they grew up much differently. There's a wide variance in bodytypes in Zootopia.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 07:06:32 No.1333163
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>>1333144
>from enemies to friends to lovers
That's WildeHopps. And they actually become friends, where Gideon barely becomes an acquaintance to Judy
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 07:10:27 No.1333164
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>>1333155
>>1333144
>>1333077
"gideon is barely a fox" is a meme from the zootopia threads, like "Bellwether did nothing wrong".

stop being triggered
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 07:44:41 No.1333166
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My fursona is actually based on Gideon Grey lol
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 11:57:25 No.1333213
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>>1333088

>"I always thought of Gideon as gay or at least closeted..."

Why do people always assume a character is gay simply becuase he isn't romantically involved with anyone onscreen? Not every character needs to be shown paired with a girl just to be considered straight, especially when we're talking about a minor character like Gideon Grey.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 12:42:49 No.1333225
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>>1333213

That having been said, why do you care so much that someone else thinks he's gay?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 15:12:34 No.1333272
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>>1333213
A desire for proper representation with the film industry? That's my assumption anyway. After all most gay characters are generally underdeveloped, with the overall story of the characters being "Hey look I'm gay" and nothing else. Gideon Grey as a character is generally more developed than this and he's a flipping background character. So people place sexual identities and orientations on these characters to make them feel like they're actually being represented in mainstream media. Why do you think everyone was originally okay with Dumbledore being gay even though there was nothing to indicate it in the original Harry Potter novels and films? because when confronted J.K. Rowling said "Maybe because gay people just look like...people?". So even if it was just to 'please the masses' kind of thing, she handled it incredibly well and made homosexuals feel represented for once. While things are changing now...it's hard waiting for that change to fully come about, so we still make people whose sexuality isn't even touched upon, to be gay, to fill the void that is still present in mainstream media.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 15:27:20 No.1333273
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>>1333272

I'm ok with gay characters.

I'm ok with gay protagonists.

I just want their srxuality to have been what the author imagined. I hate the idea of shoehorning in some gay characters just to please the extreme minority of gay people. People wonder why gays aren't more prevalent in media. It's because there are so few of them. Not even 4% of the population in the u.s. identifies as lgbt. And while the majority doesn't care how people identify, they also don't like shit forced into all of their entertainment to make the minority happy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 15:48:09 No.1333275
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Ugh, why everyone has human dick. It looks so weird and boring to see the exact same dick in all characters just smaller or bigger.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 17:57:38 No.1333312
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>>1333273


Lol Gideon was based off the director Byron Howard, who is gay. Seems pretty comvincing to me.

Edited at 2017/10/13 17:58:32
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 21:10:37 No.1333364
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>>1333068
Suppose that means you're not a fox either, douchebag.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/13 21:12:39 No.1333366
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>>1333088
Gideon + Stu, imo. Both are closeted and on the down-low, so would make perfect sense.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 00:37:50 No.1333434
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>>1333273

Almost none of the characters in the movie have specified sexual orientations, so if you don't want to see people ascribing sexual orientations to the characters​, you probably shouldn't be looking up porn of them
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 00:40:23 No.1333435
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>>1333088
Not a good reason, but I think it's because she's one of the only other named characters in Bunnyburrow haha. The Zootopia fandom is not super creative
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 01:41:22 No.1333444
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Doesn't help that the fanbase has a habit of sinning anyone that makes an OC.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 10:09:17 No.1333512
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>>1333163
>That's WildeHopps
No it ain't. You're acting as if I give a shit about your damn OTP when I don't.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 13:15:19 No.1333558
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>>1333366

No it wouldn't. Stu is married and has a family of his own, so he's clearly not gay. Besides, don't you think he might be a little bit old for that by now?

Edited at 2017/10/14 13:38:51
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 13:20:09 No.1333559
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>>1333435

>"The Zootopia fanbase is not super creative."

Sure it is. You're just focusing on the stuff you don't like. That's not a fair judgement to make on an entire fandom.

Edited at 2017/10/14 13:25:07
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 13:38:06 No.1333564
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Why is it now suddenly uncool to ship WildeHopps here? Yes, it's a popular pairing, but that doesn't automatically make it a bad pairing. Besides, it's not like a little complaining is going to stop the WildeHopps crowd from shipping them anyway.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 13:50:28 No.1333570
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>>1333312

I also have similar hair to Byron Howard. Does that make me gay? Of course not!

Also, let's not forget that Gideon is voiced by Phil Johnston and talks with a funny accent, neither of which really match with Byron Howard.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 17:12:46 No.1333617
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Because the shippers are mostly becoming batshit insane and refuse to acknowledge anything in Zootopia outside of Wildehopps.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 17:20:54 No.1333620
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>>1333564

You must be new here. Let me explain the first truth about this site.

People will bitch about literally anything and everything, no exceptions, even if it has absolutely nothing to do with anything going on in the thread.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/14 19:27:44 No.1333678
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>>1333620
I HAVE A COLD MY NOSE IS RUNNING MY THROAT IS SORE AND I HATE YOU
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Furrynomous 2017/10/15 18:46:14 No.1334209
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>>1332507
Hold on, when did he tease that this would be a wildexhopps comic. I remember when I was supporting him on patreon at the start of this comic, explicitly stated it would be more gay oriented. I could be wrong but I don't remember him saying it would be wildexhopps.

I personally don't care if he changed the characters like Nick to man whore. There are plenty of pictures of Nick doing things he would never do. So I just accept it as fan fiction and move on. Not saying it's good, just saying that I don't see the point in being angry when it's not officially canon. If someone asked zaush to create zootopia 2 and it was considered canon, then yeah I would be pissed.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/15 20:58:01 No.1334250
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Is it me or judy got a chipped tooth
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Furrynomous 2017/10/15 22:04:13 No.1334266
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>>1333088
Stockholm syndrome can be a fetish
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 06:41:27 No.1334354
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>>1334209
The first page was funny/flirty in-character banter between them that would make anyone think that it's going to be a hetero comic.

not everyone is reading artists notes, and the good artstyle got the hopes of many fans up that we are going to get a quality comic representing out beloved characters in a believable way.

Seeing Nick fondling a bear dick on page 3 is having a rug pulled out from under us.
Many fans felt cheated and betrayed.

And like I said many times before, the problem is not that it's not WildeHopps, the problem is that it teased it, and the setting had the option for it.

Nobody is shitting on the comis where Nick is sucking Bogo's dick because that's just that, there isn't teasing of WildeHopps.

This comic this way comes up in every search result may I search for Judy, Nick, Zootopia, and every time I see it, it's just an instant boner killer.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 07:18:36 No.1334358
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>>1334348
>>1334349
>>1334350

Hey, pay attention. We already have those pages from a different source. Stop with the duplicates.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 07:26:13 No.1334359
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>>1334354
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human horn Quark 2017/10/16 13:24:28 No.1334486
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>>1334359
How could they make that nose look like that? I assume this is from a kid's show
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‘ Anonymous 2017/10/16 13:39:23 No.1334491
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>>1334486
I think it’s from a the new show called Big mouth.

Edited at 2017/10/16 13:40:05
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Anonthemouse 2017/10/16 14:34:58 No.1334505
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>>1334350

Tag your fucking garbage posts with "copy"
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 14:55:37 No.1334513
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"Teasing"?

There is my point again. Just because there is banter and they're being friendly to each other, don't automatically assume it's going to be Wildehopps...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 17:15:18 No.1334556
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>>1334348
>>1334349
>>1334350
Son, I am disappoint.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 21:27:56 No.1334619
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>>1334354
Lmfao do you really think that this is not something that they'd do? I find the dialogue and their actions really, really in character. And just because you don't like seeing anything that might be considered gay does not mean that you have to piss yourself over one comic. Why do they have to fit inside neat little "straight" and "gay" boxes? Why can't they go out, have a good time together, have a friendly sex-off, and then go back to their relationship? Do you really think that two people who weren't at least fucking on the regular go do something like this lmfao
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 21:32:11 No.1334620
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>>1333046
>>1333041
>>1333086
God, I dunno what it is about chubby hunks like Gideon but FUCK yeah he's really hot!
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 04:25:24 No.1334811
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>>1334619
I do believe that. I would be totally okay with Nick and Judy being in relationship and have a fun day off orgy. The problem is more that Zaush went out of his way to destroy the possiblity of that.
-Nick saying Judy didn't got layed once since moving to the city means they have nothing
-Judy mocking Nick about his dildo collection (beside all of Nicks actions) gives the impression of him being 100% gay, zero interest in Judy

The problem is not that I don't see Nick and Judy fuck, the problem is that the comic goes out of it's way to destroy any chemistry and character the two have.

Yes, this comic is OOC as fuck and you can't say anything that can convince me otherwise, I am a dedicated fan, I tried EVERYTHING to justify the plot, dialogue and actions of this comic so I can enjoy as a zootopia work. But this is not it.

This is a furry porn comic with a zootopia skin over it nothing more
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 06:16:28 No.1334832
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>>1334811

Oh my fucking God. You want to know the difference between what you just wrote and some pasty yaoi fangirls complaining that the Naruto slashfiction that they read was "unrealistic" is?

Nothing. There's no difference.

You've injected the complete inevitability of a sexual relationship into two cartoon characters and are sperging out that other people don't share your headcanon.

If you had some fact driven reason to dislike the comic you might be forgiven for being a detail oriented pedant, but instead your grievance with the comic amounts to little more than "the artist doesn't respect my OTP, REEEEEEEE."

Nick and Judy are friends and coworkers with a strong emotional bond who like to rib each other at the other's expense. That is the extent of their established relationship and nothing in this comic contradicts that. So quell your impotent rage, cash in your NEETbux at the tendie dispensary, and find something less pathetic to be butthurt about.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 06:48:00 No.1334835
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>>1334832
Oh my god, deflate your ego man, I just said one thing in specific, that doesn't mean that's my only problem with the comic.

You want fact specific? It makes no sense for Nick to be gay let alone for him to enjoy being held down and used as a fucktoy by males larger than him. If anything it should trigger his flashback of the time he was bullied as a kid, held down and betrayed by the boys he thought are his friends. This is a fact because we SEE in the movie that after 20 years he still have negative feelings about this, he still sees this as an unpleasent memory, he is not over it.

While Nick is not the most masculine character, it is a dominant, controlling one who outsmarts others. Except for Judy, as his adventure with her is that teaches him to be more humble. Seeing him being a bottom bitch on the recieving end justs weirds me out. It would be okay if it would be only the present time, but Zaush portrayed him as a cocksucking prostitute.

When he was called out on this on FA he said, that it's his headcanon that Nick's mom died leaving him on the streets.

Despite that basically the directors confirmed that "Nick's mom is alive, living in the same apartment where she raised Nick and she is waiting for grandkits." Zaush did ZERO reserach for his work. He is not a fan of Zootopia, he's just using it's imagry.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 09:59:29 No.1334878
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To sum up everything.

Zaush is writing a comic based off his headcanon, you're triggered that he's not basing it off the headcanon a majority of the fanbase have.

And don't say he's just using the imagery. A majority of the fans only use the imagery to promote whatever OOC dark shit they write. Just look at Mead and Weaver.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 10:56:07 No.1334921
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>>1334878
Not that I am a huge fan of Mead's "Judy is Dead" AU, it always felt like a forced abloo-bloo stuff. But there is one thing about using headcanons for a story and ignoring movie canons to make your setting work. I can't judge Weaver because he isn't taking himself dead seriously with it and often makes it clear that some of his stories take place in AUs. They don't force their headcanons into the canon universe, they are trying to build something seperate with their works.

Zaush on the other hand, based on his comments and reactions thinks that this comic is a proper representation of Zootopia and it's characters. It is not.

Judy's and Nick's story is about it that neither of them should be judged by their species, they are NOT your stereotypical dumb bunny and sly/conning fox. Zaush making them their furry sexual stereotypes, slutty bunny and gay/submissive fox is the opposite of what their characters would demand.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 11:30:13 No.1334932
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We don't know what sort of kinks they have anyway...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 13:51:12 No.1334955
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Just a little note.
Zaush stated that that beaver that Nick was on top of in one of the pages is female.
So seems less that Nick is 100% full on gay, but more like he just isn't pairing Nick and Judy together in this comic (Which is perfectly fine by me because eh, I have no really interest in the ship myself, or any zootopia ship really), even if most of what he's taking is dick but still.

Edited at 2017/10/17 13:52:19
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 16:28:17 No.1334987
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>>1334955
>not into any zootopia ships.
Ships require a certain desire or appritiation of special bonds that are created between two people when falling in love.

Most people who don't ship any characters usually don't believe in love, looking at it as just a chemical reaction in the brain, and don't believe that there is any difference between lovemaking with someone you care deeply for or sex with a stanger.

That OR you are one of those innocent souls, that I too was a few years back, that is not interested in seeing cartoon characters together in sexual way. I never imagined Rapunzel and Flynn together or Po and Tigress in an intimate way. But seeing that you are here on this website reading a porn comic about Nick and Judy I assume that this is not your problem. So why aren't you feeling like shipping anything?

Edited at 2017/10/17 16:29:49
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 18:41:04 No.1335014
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Even though most ships involve characters with barely any connections nowadays...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 18:42:41 No.1335015
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He said he has no interest in Zootopia Ships, not other ships
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 19:09:31 No.1335041
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>>1334987
Or maybe I just don't ship anyone in this movie specifically?

What the fuck are you on about man. I never said I don't ship ANYTHING, I said I don't ship any Zootopia characters.
I'm not some 'innocent soul' or whatever bullshit you were spewing out. I believe in love, and I've shipped characters before, and I've seen, enjoyed, and drawn r34 and cutesy romantic stuff of fictional character ships that I like. I just don't care for shipping anyone from THIS movie. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy porn of it.

So please don't spout psychological BS at me as if I was some sheltered child.

Edited at 2017/10/17 19:19:10
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Bawwwww Furrynomous 2017/10/17 20:40:10 No.1335068
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Oh the levels of butthurt babies in here is adorable <3
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Furrynomous 2017/10/17 22:17:55 No.1335128
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Mmmmm, All those Wildehopps tears
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I do declare Furrynomous 2017/10/18 00:09:26 No.1335174
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>>1334835

>You want fact specific? It makes no sense for Nick to be gay let alone for him to enjoy being held down and used as a fucktoy by males larger than him.

It makes no sense for Nick to be gay? What, do you think that there's a list of prerequisites a guy has to check off to be into men? Should every gay guy be walking around sashaying his hips wearing belly shirts and assless chaps? Don't be absurd. There is exactly zero evidence that points to Nick's sexual orientation in the movie. He's a blank slate, baby. Tabula rasa.

Actually, now that I think about it, there *was* a character that Nick kissed. Finnick. A DUDE.

Suck it, Nick confirmed ass bandit.

>If anything it should trigger his flashback of the time he was bullied as a kid, held down and betrayed by the boys he thought are his friends. This is a fact because we SEE in the movie that after 20 years he still have negative feelings about this, he still sees this as an unpleasent memory, he is not over it.

And now I know that you know nothing about how fetishes work. Gee, I wonder why all this cuckold porn exists if your partner cheating on you is supposed to be such a traumatic event. It's almost like some people react to traumatic experiences by forming paraphilia or put on a mask of confidence to hide the fact that they're insecure inside, and that's just a single, believable possibility. Anybody with even a little bit of imagination can reconcile Nick's established persona with this comic because not a single thing he does in it is out of character. Now, if he was portrayed as a demure, blushing virgin *then* there would be a disconnect between the two, but he's not. He acts just how a cock sucking, dick loving version of Nick would act.

>While Nick is not the most masculine character, it is a dominant, controlling one who outsmarts others. Except for Judy, as his adventure with her is that teaches him to be more humble. Seeing him being a bottom bitch on the recieving end justs weirds me out.
>justs weirds me out.
>weirds me out.

So we finally arrive at what your actual issue with the comic is: It makes you feel icky. Can you really not see how none of the shit you said even remotely discredits this comic's interpretation of the character's sexuality? You started from the conclusion that "this is wrong" and built your argument from there and it shows.

Do you seriously think that a sly, cocksure rogue can't like taking it in the ass? You seem to have some strange preconceptions about what a bottom should act like. Considering the theme of Nick and Judy's character development was CHALLENGING THEIR OWN BIASES and you seem to have such a hard on for the pair you'd think that you'd be a little bit more aware of your own assumptions. Leave it to a fan to fail to critically evaluate the subject of their worship.

>When he was called out on this on FA he said, that it's his headcanon that Nick's mom died leaving him on the streets.

>Despite that basically the directors confirmed that "Nick's mom is alive, living in the same apartment where she raised Nick and she is waiting for grandkits." Zaush did ZERO reserach for his work. He is not a fan of Zootopia, he's just using it's imagry.

This is pretty much just grasping for straws at this point. Nowhere in the comic was it stated, explicitly or otherwise, that Nick's mom had died and left him out on the streets, so even if that's true then it's a moot point. It has no impact on the content of the comic.

Dumbledore isn't gay just because J.K. Rowling said so after the fact. You have to show that shit in the medium or else it's just pointless backstage fluff. Ironically, that makes the revelation that "Nick's mom is alive, living in the same apartment where she raised Nick and she is waiting for grandkits" NON CANON.

Your disdain for Zaush for is lack of "reserach" is pretty telling, however. Why should you give a shit about whether or not Zaush is a super fan of Zootopia? This pretty much just reaffirms the idea that you don't actually care about any of the shit you used to justify your dislike of the comic, you're just peeved that someone had the gall to represent characters in a way that clashes with your own canon. Just own it.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 01:09:13 No.1335192
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>your first bs
according to your logic, Judy is into incest because she kissed both her parents.
Kissing your "pretend son" on the forehead = he is gay?
You just want to wind me up with idiocy like that.

>your second bs
Nicks character is that he hates the city, that forced him into the "sly conning fox" role. He is hustling people because he doesn't believe anyone will trust him. You could call this racism, like when a black person resents whites. I don't see such person then go an have an orgy with a bunch of white people. It is out of character

>your third bs
how should I say this? You think I say it that it's wrong just because I don't like it. I think (and I see pretty many reasons to do so) that I don't like it BECAUSE it's wrong.

>your fourth
pretty much the only thing that I agree with you on the long run. It's true that just because the creators say something, you DON'T have to consider it canon... but you can.
It's, as tv-tropes calls it, the "word of god".

Regardless, cucksucking prostitute Nick is out of character. He said he's been hustling people since he was twelve. (and unless it's revieled that this is a lie, that is the canon). Being a prostitute isn't hustling, it isn't smart, it's using your body, not your witts. It's wrong to Nick's character -> and I don't like it because of that. Not the other way around.

Edited at 2017/10/18 01:22:11
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 01:26:46 No.1335208
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Mods, please...just prevent posting (except for pages) on this board. No one cares here. Put it in the discussion board...

Edited at 2017/10/18 01:27:05
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 03:52:58 No.1335231
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If I were to judge the furry fan base purely from the content of this thread, I would have the perception that this is the worst fan base I've ever encountered. Not everyone here is bad, but I mean Jesus Christ, just look at this non-stop cluster fuck of petty arguing that mods have already unsuccessfully tried to shut down. Of course this thread isn't indicative of the fan base as a whole, but this shit is embarrassing. The general mentality here kind of reminds me of those cringy Rick and Morty fuckers you see.

To the people ranting about the art; opinion and discussion are fair enough. But why resort to angrily arguing instead of calmly discussing it like a normal fucking person? And I can't believe some of you guys are seriously "discussing" unrealistic characterisation. Realistically, of course the characters from a kids movie aren't going to be taking part in a random fucking orgy. Apparently you guys can accept that premise, but nick being an escort, characters having wrong sexual orientation, etc, is too unrealistic. There's so much wrong with this comic when you realistically analyse it, so why are you all taking it so seriously?

It's just a fucking movie and it's just a fucking comic.

Edited at 2017/10/18 04:49:30
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 05:04:04 No.1335244
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Just a random here. i like zootopia I like its world and charcters. Im a fan. I came to this site for porn and some comics that are geniuinly a good read. This comic for me is good porn and a fantasy. I enjoyed that fantasy (some might not. ) the artist did a good a job just a basic plot where its set up for sex. The art is better then I can do so i am not complaining. Not like any of this cannon or anything just some aritsts fantasy.. I appreciate the uploaders for these pages and hope to see more. well look at that.. Im finished with what i came here for.. a good fap and to update myself on some comics i follow. Have a good day u18chan.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 05:39:25 No.1335249
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>>1334250

I AM GOING TO END THE DEBATE ONCE AND FOR ALL.

No, she actually just has really asymmetrical teeth.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 08:18:30 No.1335276
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>>1335208
Please, this.

Despite the red mod edit text in the OP, I don't see that being put into action at all, it USED to be but now it isn't for some fuckall reason. And now it's just a bunch of bullshit happening.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 09:42:20 No.1335291
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 09:42:45 No.1335292
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>Herp derp, ima respond to bait

Congrats, you have basic reading comprehension.

>You could call this racism, like when a black person resents whites. I don't see such person then go an have an orgy with a bunch of white people. It is out of character

Please. As if black people haven't been fucking white ass to get back at whitey for decades.

>Regardless, cucksucking prostitute Nick is out of character.

Show me where it says anything about him being a sex worker in the comic. I'll wait.

You keep moving the goalpost because your points are shit. First it was "it doesn't make sense that Nick is gay" because reasons.
Then it was "it doesn't make sense for Nick to be a bottom" because reasons.
Now it's "it doesn't make sense for Nick to be a prostitute" and a related "a hustler wouldn't use his body for money," the first of which is a non sequitur and the second of which is irrelevant because it hangs its hat on the first. What new and exciting excuse will you give me this time?

But sure, I'll bite just for the sake of proving that, once again, you're pulling it out of your ass up to justify your bias.

You are assuming that being a prostitute and being a hustler are mutually exclusive endeavors. Nothing about either of them precludes you from the other.

But more than being a hustler, Nick is resourceful. You mean to tell me he wouldn't take advantage of the stereotype that foxes are sluts to make a buck or two? His entire reason for hustling in the first place is because he learned the lesson that people are only going to see him as a fox, so he might as well be the best damn fox there is. That means using other people's prejudices to get what he wants: to part a fool from their money.

Who's to say that being a prostitute wouldn't be a part of a hustle, anyways? You ever hear of honey trapping? It doesn't take a genius to come up with a handful of ways that put getting the mark out of their pants to your advantage. Theft, blackmail, stringing someone along for money, etcetera and so forth.

At this point we can chalk your grievances to one of two things: A lack of imagination, or arguing in bad faith. Take your pick.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 09:43:01 No.1335293
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 10:20:27 No.1335302
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>>1335292
>at what point does the comic say that Nick is a prostitute

arguing with you is like arguing with a flat earth theorist
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 16:03:27 No.1335400
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Herp derp I'm a moron.

Edited at 2017/10/18 16:13:28
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 16:12:33 No.1335403
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>>1335302

... Alright, I forgot about the page where it literally shows that he's a prostitute. Fair play to the king. The rest of my argument still stands.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 17:28:04 No.1335423
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Arguing over a gay furry comic based on a childs movie.
Please stop, thats autistic.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 19:14:59 No.1335460
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>>1335439
That's not what he said at all. Those are your personal insecurities you're arguing with.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 19:41:41 No.1335472
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>>1335460

“Child’s movie” was what was said. This isn’t a “child’s movie, it’s a general audience movie anyone can enjoy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/18 22:14:20 No.1335540
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I sense butthurt Wildehopps fans...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 11:34:06 No.1335673
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>>1335460
>Personal insecurities

Now you're just talking out your ass.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 17:32:19 No.1335748
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 17:40:54 No.1335754
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>>1335748
>Zaush right now:
>HAhah all those pretent furries who are just into WildeHopps, here is bunny on fox action for ya, go back to your cartoon porns of teen titans and shit and leave animal characters to us furries!
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 17:54:56 No.1335760
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>>1335748
Man that's so great
You go Gideon
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 17:55:23 No.1335761
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>>1335754
Cringe
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 17:58:24 No.1335762
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>>1335761
Cringe
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 18:04:13 No.1335763
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>>1335762
Cringe Cringe
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 20:36:14 No.1335815
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Damn. Cheating is such a huge boner killer for me, that this comic is kinda ruined now, sadly. I mean I should have seen it coming based on some of zaush's other comics, but what are ya gonna do. At this point, I'm even kinda expecting Judy to head to the changing rooms, thinking she's won, only to find Nick balls deep in Sharla and for her ask Judy to "not tell Gideon".
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 20:47:43 No.1335823
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>>1335754
cringe city
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 22:29:39 No.1335884
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That kissing is so damn hot. I love to see an affectionate Gideon. :)
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 22:48:09 No.1335895
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It's probably gonna turn around to be a swinger thing like SharlaxNick or something.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/19 22:54:30 No.1335898
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>>1335128

There's a fine line between between being "butthurt" and expressing legitimate disappointment over bad writing. It's not about whether or not Nick and Judy are shipped in the comic, it's about the comic's bastardization of said characters.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 11:34:59 No.1336134
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>>1335898

The writing's fine, you're just salty.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 11:41:20 No.1336137
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>>1336134

Sea-Salty
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 15:00:36 No.1336196
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>>1335898

Except that "legitimate disappointment" only happens to a Zootopia comic when it's not Wildehopps.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 16:09:53 No.1336209
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>>1336196
>Everyone who doesn't like this comic is just a salty-shipper
Keep telling yourself that.

And I tell myself that everyone who likes this comic has extreemly low standards in furry porn
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 17:17:25 No.1336222
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>>1335815
What do you expect from Zaush lol
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 21:53:42 No.1336327
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>>1336209
As bad as it is, it's still probably 90th percentile or higher compared to the other comics on this board. And as far as Zootopia comics go...there aren't really any well-written ones, except maybe Weaver's.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/20 22:26:28 No.1336342
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>>1336327

You're clearly not looking very hard, because there are plenty of well-written Zootopia comics out there that blow this one out of the water. In fact, RobCivecat is working on one right now called Foxy Teaser.

Edited at 2017/10/20 22:30:27
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 00:26:24 No.1336375
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>>1336342
>Objectively inferior art
>Exposition dump in the very first page
>Ms. Quiescent? Fucking really?
>Ham fisted "will he ever love me" romance plot that we've seen in every Harlequin romance novel ever

No pacing, no god tier art, no compelling plot hook. But hey, at least they shipped Wildehopps in the first page.

Clearly for men of discerning taste.

Edited at 2017/10/21 00:27:50
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 11:14:55 No.1336540
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How did this comic....with a fucking orgy...have almost NO penetration shots throughout it? Horribly disappointing.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 11:34:15 No.1336543
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>>1336540
Most likely due to the ridiculous size differences making visible penetration look silly and stupid.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 15:56:12 No.1336741
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>>1336540
There was one with bucky and pronk but other than that, that's the only real penetrative panel in this comic.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 17:25:22 No.1336775
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>>1336375
I know you are just baiting the guy but here is a few things
>Objectivly inferior art
subjectivly. But this is the guy's first porn comic, so comparing him on that with a furry porn veteran is just you trying to shit on it just because someone likes it more than Zaush's stuff which is pathetic.

>Exposition dump in the very first page
You know, normal porn comics have the exposition at the beginning so later you can just jerk off to the porn, unlike Zaush kiling my boner midway with that nonsensical prostitute Nick stuff.

>Ms. Quiescent? Fucking really?
Oh so having a named meaningless background character is a sin but having the main characters fucked by a dozen nameless ones is cool becaus Zaush. Doublestandards.

>Ham fisted "will he ever love me" romance plot that we've seen in every Harlequin romance novel ever
As far as I know that was the artist's goal, to poke fun of this trope by Nick literally pretends to be soap opera dramatic over it, which Judy notices and they get to fucking.

>no compelling plot hook
If you think that Judy in a vixen costume is not the fucking cutest and hottest thing you are fucking gay ma... oh wait yeah, I forgot where I am
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 17:33:47 No.1336784
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>>1336342

You...think this is good writing?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 17:49:16 No.1336797
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>>1336784
>Judy has dildos of you guys (that I know of for some unexplained reason despite that I'm not together with Judy because I know she didn't get laid once since being here)
>I am uncomfortable with nudity but suddenly I am totally fine by double penerated infront of a group of other people
>I didn't want to be a stereotypical horny bunny (despite that I am not suppose to be because that's my whole character in the movie)

Edited at 2017/10/21 17:49:45
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 17:50:16 No.1336798
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>>1336775

I think if he's going to put this comic forward as an example of a better comic, "the artist is inexperienced" isn't really an excuse you can use. The work's either better or it's not.

There's nothing particularly good about Zaush's writing, but I think it's more about the mistakes he doesn't make. This artist's lettering is awful (different font sizes, different typefaces, bad font choices) and the writing itself is pretty bad (inconsistent punctuation, capitalization errors, grammar mistakes, etc). There's a lot that could be said about the art too.

I don't think the artist deserves to be knocked for it or anything, they're probably young and haven't done a lot of comics before. But as an example of "actually there ARE good Zootopia comics" it doesn't really stack up imo. And I say this as someone who loves wildehopps and would much rather see a comic about that than...whatever Zaush is doing, haha
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Furrynomous 2017/10/21 18:12:02 No.1336803
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>>1336798
>inconsistent punctuation, capitalization errors, grammar mistakes, etc
As a non-native english speaker I have no idea what you are talking about
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 03:04:36 No.1337032
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>>1336775
>subjectivly. But this is the guy's first porn comic, so comparing him on that with a furry porn veteran is just you trying to shit on it just because someone likes it more than Zaush's stuff which is pathetic.

No, objectively. By pretty much every metric which we can establish to judge a person's design choices or their artistic acumen it is objectively inferior. The idea that we can only judge art subjectively is nonsense. What, you think I should give him some slack because he's never drawn a furry porn comic before? You get no freebies for being new.

>You know, normal porn comics have the exposition at the beginning so later you can just jerk off to the porn, unlike Zaush kiling my boner midway with that nonsensical prostitute Nick stuff.

It is equally obnoxious when other comics do it. Having an exposition dump at the beginning of your piece is pretty much universally regarded as bad writing. You don't get a pass just because you're doing porn. If you want to have a plot put some effort into it or just make it a wank piece. No plot is better than bad plot.

>Oh so having a named meaningless background character is a sin but having the main characters fucked by a dozen nameless ones is cool becaus Zaush. Doublestandards.

The problem isn't that he bothered to name a background character, you moron, it's that he chose a name straight out of My First Fanfiction Written by a Teenage Girl. Ms. Quiescent is so mind numbingly, gag inducingly stupid that you'd pretty much have to have no taste to think it's good.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 06:18:58 No.1337065
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>>1337032

> No plot is better than bad plot.

Thanks to the Miller test, there needs to be some level of a plot as a fig leaf against obscenity prosecution in the US (though admittedly the likelihood of that has gone down
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 11:21:37 No.1337187
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>>1336375
>>1336784
>>1336798
>>1337032

Listen, I'm not saying RobCivecat's comic is perfect, but at least he knows how to write characters actually showing compassion for each other, which is a lot more than can be said for Zaush's comic here, where they just bicker, complain, and argue constantly about the stupidest things the whole time. I'd much rather see them exchanging some brief expositional dialogue on the first page if it means not having to endure Zaush's cringe-inducing yaketty-yaking about dildoes and double penetration for a dozen or so pages. Besides, it's hard to call it a lazy "exposition dump" when it actaully flows naturally out of the characters without feeling forced. Zaush's writing, on the other hand, is the epitome of forced, unnatural, and out of character dialogue (I mean Nick gloating about being gay prostitute? Seriously?!).

You can nitpick things like Ms. Quiescent's name all you want, but ultimately, that'a not a serious issue with the writing as a whole. Besides, she's just a background character who's not even very relevant to the story, so I have no idea why you'd cling on to that as your biggest criticism of the comic.

Also, "objectively inferior art"? You've got to be kidding me! You can't seriously be telling me that RobCivecat's attention to detail somehow pales in comparison to Zaush, the guy who's been at it for a decade and yet still somehow manages to screw up body proportions, draw overly simplistic circumcised human penises on otherwise detailed non-human characters, and blatantly copy panels froms previous comics just to cut corners. The fact that RobCivecat, a person who's new to the furry art scene, can not only compare to the long-timers, but also outdo them says a lot about which one is putting more effort into his work and which one is just in it for the money and praise.

But whatever, right? Clearly anyone who dares criticize Zaush is just going to get labeled as a "mindless WildeHopps fanboy", so I might as well just stop here and hope that at least some people here can still appreciate a decent Zootopia comic made out of love for the source material instead of this Mystic Tantra garbage that Zaush is spewing out to line his pockets while he blocks anyone who calls him out.

Edited at 2017/10/22 11:30:45
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 14:55:02 No.1337244
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>>1337187
Thank you, I would've said the same thing but I didn't feel like wasting my time on a blind Zaush fanboy who thinks this blatant cashgrab made without any love for the source material is really better than something made with the heart of it.

Seriously one thing is all to tell who loves Zootopia:
Judy's and Nick's entire character is about it that they are not stereotypical fox and bunny. Nick is not just a conning fox, he deep down wants to be a good guy, and Judy is not just a dumb bunny, she is actually very sly and noble.

Zaush making them their furry stereotypes (buttom homosexual fox and slutty bunny) is just the biggest middle finger to anyone truly loving these characters. I rather read ANYTHING about them being their stereotype-defying selves no matter how badly drawn instead of this "beautifully" drawn train-wreck of a comic that's as complex as Michael Bay's Transformer's movies.

Edited at 2017/10/22 15:08:05
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 15:49:07 No.1337263
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>>1336342
It's Nick/Judy, so of course it's good!
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 16:03:12 No.1337273
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For the love of god, can you all just please SHUT UP, already?! I'm not taking sides on this; I think it's a good bit of PWP, myself, but I'm getting sick of people on both sides trying to present what is obviously their own opinion as absolute fact and what Zaush NEEDS to do to the comic. If you like it, fine; enjoy it in silence. If you don't, fine; stop trying to convert other people into not liking it and move on to something you DO like. This is what Zaush wants to do, so LET HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 21:24:30 No.1337386
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>>1337187
>>1337244

I smell a samefag.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 21:59:07 No.1337397
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For reference, this is the caliber of art we're dealing with.

Here's a link to the comic in question . Shit's just as cringey as the first page.

>>1281134

Edited at 2017/10/22 23:01:57
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Furrynomous 2017/10/22 23:18:01 No.1337436
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I'm tempted to restart this thread with images only, like it says in the thread description, though it seems there's too much whining about porn on here to keep up :P
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 05:10:46 No.1337586
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>>1337397
>tHis iS tHe CalIbEr of aRt
oh shut your piehole
Mr."someone dared to like somone more than Zaush's cucking and swinging fetish so I'll repeatedly bash the work they like"

If you think that makes you any better than the people who complain about OOC-ness of this comic you are wrong

Edited at 2017/10/23 05:39:15
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 10:20:24 No.1337643
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Girls, girls...

You're both massive retards, so how about you both shut the fuck up and go back to your respective artist-dick-sucking threads?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 12:27:20 No.1337683
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>>1337586

I actually don't care that you like someone else's comic. Hell, I don't even care that you like WildeHopps. More power to you. I care about two things:

1.) You said that Rob's "blows this one out of the water" (It doesn't).
2.) Poking holes in fanboy's obsessions.

The reason people call you a "mindless WildeHopps fanboy" is because the lady doth protest too much. Usually, when someone doesn't like something, they just ignore it. I don't care for WildeHopps stuff so I don't engage with it.

When somebody goes into someone else's house and shits on the coffee table because they don't like the shape of it you have to wonder why they're so fixated on it in the first place.

But that's just normal levels of sperg. Not only are you screeching to us about how our furniture sucks, you went next door to complain about it, too.

>>1322749
>>1337199

What would you call someone who is so assmad that people like a piece of media that doesn't conform to their preferences? If you are so confident in your superior tastes, why tromp around in the mud with the plebs? Because you're a fanboy, and fanboys can't stand the idea that people enjoy their object of fanaticism differently than them.

Prove me wrong. Scuttle back to your hidey hole and ignore this thread. Or do what we know you're going to do anyways and take the bait.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 16:01:42 No.1337799
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Hey at least I can feel good that Im not the only person who hates these boring hot dog penises
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 21:46:29 No.1338049
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>>1337586
This is probably the worst face in Zaush's whole comic (tied w/panel 2 on the same page) and it's still better drawn than any of the ones in your comic
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Furrynomous 2017/10/23 22:07:51 No.1338055
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My favorite part about this thread is the authoritarian dick wagging the mods were doing at the start about off topic shit and rants.

And now all this ^^^^

They must have stopped giving a fuck?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 01:45:43 No.1339988
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 05:40:07 No.1340047
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>>1339988

.. WHAT
IS THIS IMPLYING HE FUCKED JUDY'S MOM TOO
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 07:34:16 No.1340084
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>>1340047
Indeed it is.
Cuckoldry of this level shouldn't be possible or attainable. This is MULTI-TRACK CUCKOLDRY.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 08:05:38 No.1340087
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>>1339988
*hurl*....
this comic is every joke meme packed into one.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 11:04:25 No.1340152
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>>1340084
Stu is watching on with a huge grin on his face. Can it really be called cuckoldery if the one being cuckolded is into it?
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Redtail 2017/10/27 12:02:52 No.1340168
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>>1339988

Stu's face though...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 13:27:21 No.1340201
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>>1339988
>I've been thinking of fucking you ever since you apologized for slashing up my face with your claws and for ridiculing me, my dreams AND my species
This is top tier art and writing, clear understanding of zootopia, it's characters or just anyone with basic human emotions in general.
Everyone who is giving money to this man is doing god's work

Edited at 2017/10/27 13:28:33
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 14:34:46 No.1340220
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>>1340152
cuckold as a definition means a husband who has a cheating wife (meaning that the husband is not aware or disapproves of it)

but as a fetish it means the husband 'shares' his wife with another man out of voyeuristic, masochistic pleasure. (meaning he is aware and a willing participant)

Edited at 2017/10/27 14:36:59
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 15:13:45 No.1340232
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>>1339988
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 16:51:36 No.1340266
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seeing others to be just as displeased with this is the only joy I have in all this misery

Edited at 2017/10/27 16:52:02
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 17:16:29 No.1340271
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>>1340266
That's basically all what this site is about. You get your wanks and then you get your laughs.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 18:41:43 No.1340299
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>>1340152
Yeah, this is all consensual. All bunnies are horny for fox dick.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/27 23:30:36 No.1340421
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>>1339988
>>1340084
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 00:06:00 No.1340437
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the massive uptick in ntr in furry and other porn is beyond obnoxious at this point, it feels like its being jammed into everything
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 00:12:49 No.1340440
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>>1339988
>>1340047
>>1340084
>>1340087
>>1340152
>>1340168
>>1340201
>>1340220
>>1340232
>>1340266
>>1340271
>>1340299
>>1340421
>>1340437
this thread is fucking delicious.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 00:16:32 No.1340441
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Come on, guys. You knew as soon as you saw the artist what was going to be in this.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 00:26:42 No.1340445
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https://picarto.tv/zaush/5867fb6e7bc41c7519fb17dc58db4f14
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 00:41:22 No.1340451
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>>1340441

I don't know, it somehow manages to be both completely predictable and actually kind of shocking at the same time. Also, using the words "actually kind of shocking" to describe porn; whew, nice to know that can still happen.

Still mystified by the lack of Mr. Otterton sex, though.
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Roshandala 2017/10/28 03:11:13 No.1340479
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Ok this has now tip in in the balance to be a Straight comic
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 04:31:03 No.1340487
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>>1340479
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 04:31:19 No.1340488
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>>1340479
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 04:33:45 No.1340489
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>>1340487
>>1340488
Did not mean to do that
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 05:46:22 No.1340511
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Zootopia was the one and only thing that somewhat pulled me into the furry fandom. Before that I thought it's all disgusting cucking and cheating shit.

But you furries managed to ruin it too.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 06:20:32 No.1340523
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>>1340511

*shrug* Its Zaush, a lot of things he does these days is either cuck/cheating or pedo disguised as characters just being small. If you see straight stuff from him just don't be surprised if it shows up.

Edited at 2017/10/28 06:21:07
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 10:50:46 No.1340618
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>>1340472
never have i found the appeal of cuckolding, did someone cheated on you this hard Zaush? are you letting your frustrations out with these drawings?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 12:25:56 No.1340642
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>>1340472
Oh god jesus it's gotten even hotter!
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 12:38:39 No.1340646
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I really don't get why people are complaining so much, this comic is an almost perfect Zaush comic:

- Promises mostly gay comic that ends up 70-80% straight.
- Cuckolding
- Small females with no visible tits and big males so pedo's can get off to seeing an adult fucking a child.
- Lazy angles with barely any visible penetration copied over the majority of sex pages
- Cheating on partner

I mean all that's missing is incest between a father and a tit-less small daughter and it's the full Zaush comic bingo.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/28 13:41:57 No.1340661
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I really don't get why people are complaining so much, this comic is an almost perfect Zaush comic:

- Promises mostly gay comic that ends up 70-80% straight.
- Cuckolding
- Small females with no visible tits and big males so pedo's can get off to seeing an adult fucking a child.
- Lazy angles with barely any visible penetration copied over the majority of sex pages
- Cheating on partner

I mean all that's missing is incest between a father and a tit-less small daughter and it's the full Zaush comic bingo.

It's not as though rabbits have nipples, most of the antro females have nipples even in Adam's daughter comic the daughter and the wife have nipples
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/28 14:00:11 No.1340662
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Also this is bigger then that last crappy attempt
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 16:17:49 No.1340704
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>>1340646
most people complaining became furries because of zootopia and thus got introduced to Zaush through this comic.

I never read anything he made before and honestly based on this work, I don't want to read anything he did or will EVER make. Even if he would make a Wildehopps comic next, he is dead for me... wish he would be dead for real.

It's one thing he has his own stics, tropes he likes, but this is suppose to be a fanwork. I don't care what he does with characters he created, doing this to Nick and Judy simply lacks any moral sense. If he doesn't respect the characters and what they represent he shouldn't be allowed to use them

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Edited at 2017/10/28 16:24:58
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 16:28:40 No.1340706
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>>1340662
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:05:01 No.1340723
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>>1340704
Wow, really? People are really calling for the death of the artist, over their depiction of a fictional fox and rabbit from a Disney movie? Seriously? Are we going to go down THAT route, now? And people wonder why furries are still considered psychopathic deviants to the outside world...
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:18:20 No.1340734
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>>1340723
Zaush doing a better job at making furries look bad with this comic man.

And having the whole fandom cheering at a Judeon and BigGayNick comic like it's the perfect depiction of the characters is cringey as hell

Edited at 2017/10/28 17:20:17
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:19:39 No.1340736
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>>1340704
Yeah sure.
You are coming here to a furry porn website to look for versions of the characters fucking each other, reduced to being wanking material, and you complain about the artist "disprespecting the characters".
Get out.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:22:24 No.1340740
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>>1340736
>reduced to being wanking material
That's what this comic does
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:27:25 No.1340746
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>>1340479
On that note, would it be possible for a mod to move this to the straight board? Because as it is now it seems the straight content outweighs the gay stuff by a mile now.
I don't have an issue with it nor am I complaining, but just asking/wondering for the sake of having things where they're supposed to be.

Edited at 2017/10/28 17:28:34
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/28 17:27:27 No.1340747
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>>1340704
Wow, really? People are really calling for the death of the artist, over their depiction of a fictional fox and rabbit from a Disney movie? Seriously? Are we going to go down THAT route, now? And people wonder why furries are still considered psychopathic deviants to the outside world...

Wow really? you're going there? ok well wishing death on someone is NOT ok and second of all it's so hot to finally have some chubby on hot piece of ass like Judy :)
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 17:34:13 No.1340758
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>>1340754
>>1340747
>>1340723
>samefag
>overreacting

By "wanting him dead" I just say I want to forget that he even exists. But this shitty comic keeps showing up on my search for zootopia fanart so I can't. Hope he finishes this cucking cheating gay garbage soon and never touches zootopia again

Edited at 2017/10/28 17:39:13
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 18:59:15 No.1340819
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>>1340758

Alternately, I hope more artists start putting Wilde and Hopps in different partnerships and sexualities, because I had no idea that WildeHopps people were so fucking ridiculous and I want to see more of this insane, possessive idiocy.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/28 19:39:23 No.1340829
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>>1340819
Oh we aren't its just most of us know that our opinions mean nothing, because we learnt to get over ourselves...sad that some people still can't...in every fandom. I still get nightmares over the Steven Universe fandom....
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 01:13:01 No.1340937
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Eh, even with the brief cuckolding in the more recent page I still like it regardless.

Edited at 2017/10/29 01:14:34
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 04:40:25 No.1341015
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I mean, all the people complaining this comic doesn't, uh, follow the movie very well (well, no, shit, guys, a porn comic is not a good sequel to a family friendly cartoon) is one thing, but the thing is he's not even very consistent with characterization in the comic; Gideon goes from too shy to fuck Judy in front of anyone else to being the guy who fucks her mom in front of her dad in the course of a two and a half pages.

It was almost adorable (enemies becoming friends ... with benefits!) for a minute, and then, whoah.

(Luckily, I'm still here for the porn and because I honestly have a morbid curiosity and want to see what depravity both the comic AND the thread devolve into, and neither have disappointed.)
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 05:20:13 No.1341017
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>>1340662
He looks he just wants to ride his dick as well. Not that it really matters since most porn never makes sense. People need to stop getting so upset at something so silly.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/29 08:26:04 No.1341076
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>>1340662
He looks he just wants to ride his dick as well. Not that it really matters since most porn never makes sense. People need to stop getting so upset at something so silly.

Exactly the reason why all this bitter arguing should be left in the discussion post of this marvellous comic :/
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 13:31:55 No.1341172
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THIS IS A FUCKING PORN COMIC, you dumbasses or single annoying dumbass are shitposting and spamming hatred to a non-cannon PORN COMIC. Are you proud? I wish the mods here would ban all of you whiney children.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/29 14:07:56 No.1341181
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THIS IS A FUCKING PORN COMIC, you dumbasses or single annoying dumbass are shitposting and spamming hatred to a non-cannon PORN COMIC. Are you proud? I wish the mods here would ban all of you whiney children.

Even me?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 14:17:22 No.1341186
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>Are you proud
yes
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 16:17:56 No.1341236
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https://picarto.tv/zaush/cb296b37ad8a91bdc6c2099bccecc33b
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/29 17:13:29 No.1341267
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https://picarto.tv/zaush/cb296b37ad8a91bdc6c2099bccecc33b

Will those sketches be posted on here when he's done?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 17:27:46 No.1341272
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>>1341267
yes i will post it here
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/29 18:18:01 No.1341287
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>>1341267
yes i will post it here

Awesome but shouldn't it be under the zaush patreon leak but I don't mind either way
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 21:38:43 No.1341366
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>>1341236

So much for that.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/29 22:21:07 No.1341382
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>>1341236

So much for that.

Yeah what a fucking moron

Wow what a fucking grass :/

Edited at 2017/10/29 22:22:35
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Furrynomous 2017/10/29 23:28:46 No.1341403
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Lol I honestly don't fucking care if this comic gets removed it's such shit anyway
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 00:04:01 No.1341415
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When furries don't get there leaked patreon porn on time.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 14:58:57 No.1341679
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Non Zoot Doodles here https://u18chan.com/gfur/topic/1226134
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>>1341679
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 14:59:01 No.1341681
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>>1341679
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 17:53:18 No.1341739
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Can this thread be moved to the straight board now? There's more straight stuff than gay at this point.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 17:54:08 No.1341740
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>>1341679
Stop posting straight stuff on the gay boards. You know Zaush has a straight furry thread. Dumbass.
https://u18chan.com/fur/topic/1233774
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Libra 2017/10/30 18:40:16 No.1341765
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I hate to say it, but yeah, this is a judy centered comic. There it would continue with the fox(I forget his name), if it were a bi/straight friendly gay comic. Seems to be more gay/bi friendly straight comic.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 18:46:33 No.1341766
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cry me a river.
straight board would have even more complaints about it that it's too gay.

what happened to "if you don't like it don't read it?"
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 18:49:36 No.1341767
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>>1341679
Stop posting straight stuff on the gay boards. You know Zaush has a straight furry thread. Dumbass.


https://u18chan.com/fur/topic/1233774

Exactly
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/30 18:53:54 No.1341768
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I hate to say it, but yeah, this is a judy centered comic. There it would continue with the fox(I forget his name), if it were a bi/straight friendly gay comic. Seems to be more gay/bi friendly straight comic.

You mean Gideon Grey?
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Anonthemouse 2017/10/30 19:55:30 No.1341782
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>>1341767

Honestly, this should be moved to the straight board. I'm not 100% on the rules of what should be on which board, but it definitely has more straight content than gay.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 20:52:31 No.1341840
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>>1341767
You cry too much about it. Jezus. Every time its straight art posted in this section. Everyone fucking cries and throws a tantrum, Ive seen better attitude from people on the 'straight' boards.
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 21:59:46 No.1341899
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>>1341840
>Ive seen better attitude from people on the 'straight' boards.
Lolno
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>>1341739
>>1341740
>>1341765
>>1341767
>>1341782
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Furrynomous 2017/10/30 23:53:15 No.1341933
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>>1341840
Since they have such a superior attitude they surely won't mind the gay parts of this comic, so its better for everyone to move it there. :)
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 03:17:17 No.1341991
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>>1340662
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Furrynomous 2017/10/31 07:37:54 No.1342024
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>>1340662
Zaush should've just made a comic with Gideon and some other dude instead of this. Gideon looks sexy asf in this.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/10/31 09:15:59 No.1342050
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>>1340662
Zaush should've just made a comic with Gideon and some other dude instead of this. Gideon looks sexy asf in this.

I think getting Nick and Gideon to spitroast Judy or her mother would be so hot in the next comic, Gideon is my spirit animal as I'm too little chubby and Judy is one fine piece of ass :)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 10:39:41 No.1342893
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>>1338049

Hold on, what do you mean by "your comic"? I didn't make it, RobCivecat did. I'm not going to take credit for someone else's work, and even the slightest amount of research would've made that clear.

Granted, RobCivecat draws some kinda wonky looking facial expressions every now and then, but at least he's actually trying. Considering the fact that this is literally his first comic we're talking about, meaning he has no previous experience, it's understandable that a few beginner's mistakes would slip through. That's not uncommon for someone's first comic. Besides, it's really not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I can look past a few awkward moments if it means the story is actaully palatable.

All Zaush ever does is the same tired orgy/cuckolding story over and over. Everyone's a nymphomaniac. Everyone acts like a total jerk. No character development, no intimacy, just soulless pr0n for the sake of pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Edited at 2017/11/02 10:41:56
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 11:17:17 No.1342910
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>>1331963
>>1331971

I wouldn't really consider this a good example of a Zootopia fanfic worth recommending. But hey, to each their own, I guess. You can say I need to "get a life" all you want, but at least I'm not throwing ableist slurs around at strangers all day.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 11:32:41 No.1342913
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>>1341366

Whelp. I guess we better save all the HD images now in case this comic's thread gets taken down again. What a bummer.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 21:50:27 No.1343069
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>>1342893

"This is a better comic"

>literally every drawing is off-model and terrible

>riddled with grammar errors

"It's his first comic!"
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 23:32:43 No.1343099
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To the people offended that Nick is a 'raging homosexual', and that he exhibits no apparent attraction towards Judy: This comic is not canon. It's independent of the zootopia animated picture from which the comic is based on, and the story takes on a direction the artist desired it to go, even if the supporters and readers alike are dissatisfied with the result. This comic doesn't have to cater to your taste, but you can take solace in the fact that it will not have any effect on Disney's Zootopia or its future, so how you view the universe and the characters in it doesn't have to change!

With that out of the way, Nick in this comic is reflected reasonably well from his depiction in the film. He retains the laid-back and alluring attitude, which characterised him in the movie, and zaush provides his own spin on how the character would react in a scenario like the one we find him in this comic that feels organic; under the one condition; that we can agree to accept that Nick can be sexually attracted towards members of the same sex.

Nick is effectively 'straight', -in all probability this is the conclusion both audiences and creators of zootopia have arrived to given what we learn from the film, which is reasonable enough, since there is no evidence to suggest otherwise that Nick could be gay or at least a 'male that has sex with other males'...

...but there is nothing in the film that rules out the possibility either. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The film, as you probably know, is not specifically aiming to appeal to adults alone; but it is primarily marketed towards a non-adult audience, so any confirmation that Nick Wilde could be homosexual (or in any way sexual) is probably not going to happen.

So yeah, this side of Nick is only revealed in the comic's story, and though it may not be true, we can enjoy the events taking place because his character doesn't come across as far-fetched. Nick in zootopia had feelings for Judy, but the nature of the feelings are not made entirely clear. One thing made clear to the audience is that a meaningful relationship between the characters had developed, but whether it was more than just friendship, if their bond was 'romantic' is difficult to tell. You have to keep in mind that Nick likes to challenge people's outward aspect and will do whatever it takes, by adjusting his attitude, to provoke in someone a desired result, usually undermining them. Since the character is not always prone to be authentic, you can't always rely on what the character says and does; He plays coy, smooth talks his way with someone, may resort to swindling, he even plays around with those he's friendly with, no foul intentions of course.

It's not so difficult to see that Nick has simply made a very close friend with Judy, and whatever few hints of intimacy between them may just be an act in his part to mess with her. He may just love her as a friend.

It's worth noting that Nick's behaviour in the comic doesn't necessarily define the entirety of his character either. This may sound absurd in light of how eager he is to have intercourse with everyone male roaming the mystic springs oasis, but he may not be strictly homosexual. Nick displays a very strong preference for cocks, sure, but he may very well be bisexual. It's possible the fox may be predominantly gay, save for Judy, whom he is eager to be heterosexual with in private?

Plenty of gay people have slept with members of the opposite sex on occasion, in the same way that people that identify as straight suddenly find themselves with a casual same-sex partner.

Notice that in the orgy where Nick and Judy tally their laycount, there is a panel where he is getting screwed by a polar bear while he is simultaneously having sex with an otter. This scene bears a striking resemblance to a position a character from another comic also done by zaush finds himself in. Zaush confirmed the otter November is having sex with in that comic is female, despite all the other boys that had sex with him in the gang bang being male. I'm not bisexual, but after so much attention and stimulation from so many guys banging me I would have no problem fucking a girl in between everything, so I'm not sure that changes anything haha.

Anyways, Hopefully this can help people appreciate this comic.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/02 23:49:37 No.1343103
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>>1342910
>ableist
manlet sperg confirmed

Edited at 2017/11/02 23:50:17
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Furrynomous 2017/11/03 03:19:25 No.1343140
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>>1343099
>Anyways, Hopefully this can help people appreciate this comic.

Not really but I appreciate your efforts. The things that I dislike in this comic will never go away or change no matter how well they are explained.

It's one thing to expand a character into a certain direction and another to give it something that degenerates it entirely like turning stereotype defying characters into their total furry stereotypes.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/03 07:23:36 No.1343186
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>>1343069
You just judge it by technicalities that don't matter for the medium.

Comics aren't just about the artyle used or the writer's grammar, they are about setting, poses, overall characterization and plot and some people prefer comfy couples over swinging orgies.

It's subjective. For him it's a better comic because he likes it more. For you this is the better comi because you like this more.

Both have flaws sure, but if you call this an off-model terribly drawn Nick, you are simply just triggered and ranting without thinking, or you haven't even read the comic
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Furrynomous 2017/11/03 12:08:47 No.1343315
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>>1343099
Oh, come on, that's totally a beaver he's fucking in that panel.

I mean the animal, because of course it's also a double entendre.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/03 13:34:47 No.1343333
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>>1343186

The source of this is straight, but hell nick looks hot in that panel
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Furrynomous 2017/11/03 21:21:37 No.1343455
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>>1343186

I think being able to draw and write well are important for a medium that consists entirely of pictures and words, yeah.

That's one of the better drawings from that comic but it's still pretty messed up--his body's too short, his snout is too thin and stretched out, his arms are bizarrely huge compared to his tiny legs, his left wrist is broken...I could go on and on. All of this comic's drawings look like someone 3D-printed the characters out of silly putty and then kicked them.

If people like that comic better they should read it! I don't begrudge them that at all. I'm not going to go to that comic's thread to shit all over it. I'm just replying to what's posted here.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 00:52:44 No.1343505
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>>1343186
You are seriously blind if you think that this is on model.

>Technicalities that don't matter to the medium
Grammar and artistic ability aren't important in a medium made up of art and words? Lol, sure kid.

If everything is just a subjective preference then nothing that Spergmaster General is wailing and gnashing about amount to shit. A plea to subjectivity is basically just a giant sign that reads "Hey, I have nothing that supports my argument."
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 22:33:30 No.1343957
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>>1337683

>"When somebody goes into someone else's house and shits on the coffee table because they don't like the shape of it, you have to wonder why they're so fixated on it in the first place. But that's just normal levels of sperg. Not only are you screeching to us about how our furniture sucks, you went next door to complain about it, too."

Says the person who unironically uses juvenile terms like "sperg" as if it's supposed to make people take what you're saying seriously. Either way, I find it hilarious how people like you think anyone who criticizes this comic is somehow the same person. There are plenty of people here who share my sentiments on this comic, so it's ridiculous to assume those people don't exist simply because you don't agree with them. As for mentioning this comic on the Foxy Teaser thread, that really isn't "going next door to complain about it", considering the creator of that comic is actually an outspoken critic of Zaush (see the attached image).

>"What would you call someone who is so assmad at people who like a piece of media that doesn't conform to their preferences? If you are so confident in your superior tastes, why tromp around in the mud with the plebs? Because you're a fanboy, and fanboys can't stand the idea that people enjoy their object of fanaticism differently than them."

For a person who claims to be calling out an "assmad fanboy", you sure are doing a stellar job of acting like one yourself. After all, it's you who has the immature "everybody who disagrees with me is a fanboy" mentality. Seriously, can you please calm down and take other people's opinions into consideration before throwing insults around? That would certainly be a good place to start. After all, the last thing this thread needs is more pointless arguing.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 22:49:56 No.1343960
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>LONG HYSTERICAL RANT!!!!
>Anyway, you guys are so insignificant. I don't care about you guys!
Rinse and repeat.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 22:53:53 No.1343961
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>>1343505

It looks fine to me. I think you people are just looking for flaws. I don't see even half of the nitpicks you people are bringing up.

Besides, at least RobCivecat's art is original. Most of what Zaush draws nowadays just looks like an amateur rehash of stuff he's already drawn before. In fact, I'm almost certain he's recycled more than a few of his older sketches in this one comic alone.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 23:27:31 No.1343967
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>>1343961
Go home Rob
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Furrynomous 2017/11/04 23:28:45 No.1343968
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>>1343505
I agree with you completely. Opinion matters, but most opinions are shit. If everything is subjective, then nothing is subjective, because somebody else's opinion just cancels out yours. We live in a world of averages. Average content appeals to an average population of average people. This helps us separate out the objective truths about art and media as a whole.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 01:23:48 No.1344003
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>>1343961

Seriously, if you're worried about a furry artist overdrawing fox blow jobs, you are in the wrong fucking fandom.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 13:28:40 No.1344178
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>>1343961
If you don't see his mistakes, fine, go enjoy his comics. Nobody's saying you can't.

Same as the guy who defended his writing with "I don't know English very well and I don't see any grammar mistakes." That's fine for him. Doesn't mean the mistakes aren't there.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 13:35:15 No.1344180
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>>1343961
These panels have almost nothing in common besides a fox suckin' a dick. Pose, expression, hand placement is all different.

But at least the guy who's never drawn a comic before isn't "repeating himself," right?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 13:39:59 No.1344183
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>>1343957
Holy fuck, have I been arguing with Rob this entire time? Oh man, the fucking audacity to come in here and hawk your own comic as superior is breathtaking.

EVEN BETTER if it's not Rob who has been shilling his own comic, because the same language that he used in that screenshot has been used verbatim as arguments in this thread. The idea that I'm responding to not just your typical WildeHopps fanboys but Rob fanboys as well makes me so hard.

>Says the person who unironically uses juvenile terms like "sperg" as if it's supposed to make people take what you're saying seriously.

Oh right, I forgot that I'm arguing with people who take Zootopia fanart seriously. Forgive me for thinking that you'd consider the substance of my arguments rather than whether I used image board vernacular on an image board.

>...it's you who has the immature "everybody who disagrees with me is a fanboy" mentality.

Nope, just the one guy is a fanboy because he displays typical fanboy behavior. If it's been more than one you'll have to forgive me again, because you've all been saying the exact same shit in the exact same way. It's hard for me to differentiate between clones on an anonymous furry porn image board.

>Seriously, can you please calm down and take other people's opinions into consideration before throwing insults around?

I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I'm just doing this to bait a response from you guys to prove a point and so far you've been doing a capital job at feeding the troll. Don't they teach you this shit on the first day of internet training?

>After all, the last thing this thread needs is more pointless arguing.

lol

Edited at 2017/11/05 14:24:08
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 14:23:46 No.1344199
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 16:42:32 No.1344257
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>>1343099
I would take solace in it that this representation of Nick and Judy will never be close to anything they canonically be.

I mean, Byron and Rich tease wildehopps so much it should be a crime.

What upsets me about this comic however is not that. It's that I don't understand how can someone (expecially an artist) watch a captivating story about a fox and a bunny, struggling against the strereotypes society puts against them and his first thought be: "Oh, boy! I love these complex characters and the bond they have built! I'm going to portray them as their total furry stereorypes bicker over a money bet."
That's the premise of a very mean spirited parody, and makes me question his whole intentions why he made this comic.

And even if I could look beyond that, and try to enjoy it, with my own headcanons like "Judy and Nick just enjoy a fun orgy day off", the narrative won't allow it:
Nick mocks Judy about that she probably didn't get laid once since moving to the city, and that means that NOTHING is going on between them. I mean, that's pretty obviously not working with them having anything beyond friendship...

topple that with Judy portrayed as a slut, thinking about having sex with every male she met (her neighbours, and now gideon?) but not Nick? I know the comic is not over but Zaush has already stated that there won't be anything between the two so... this comic will stay the OOC trainwreck it is.

And what upsets me the most that it is an intentional trainwreck while it could've been a very amazing well-drawn comic. But he choose to fill it with his tropes and fetishes instead of trying to come up with something that fits these characters beyond their species... it's pretty fantasyless

Edited at 2017/11/05 16:52:38
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Furrynomous 2017/11/05 16:55:59 No.1344260
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>>1344257
>not understanding that taking established characters and depicting them in situations that goes contrary to their personalities is a fetish/turn on for a lot of people
>taking porn this seriously
ishygddt
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 04:00:27 No.1344495
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>>1344257

This comic is not here to tell a story; it is here to be masturbated to. If you want a good story, my God, it's like wondering why PornTube videos never win Best Writing (Adapted Screenplay) at the Oscars. Maybe you're, uh, looking in the wrong spot?

For fuck's sake, yes, we fucking realize these characters are not being represented very faithfully to the movie. The reason why this doesn't bother us is because that's not why we're reading this comic.

We're on a FURRY PORN SITE looking for FURRY PORN so we can JACK THE FUCK OFF. If faithful characterization gets in the way of that goal, then fuck faithful characterization!

And, fuck, it's obvious why this shit isn't WildeHopps; we got fucking callouses from jacking off to WildeHopps before the fucking movie came out. It's a little boring at this point. So, sure, Judy can fuck Gideon and her neighbors and Nick can fuck a pair of tigers and then they can all fuck everybody because I've seen them fuck each other for nearly three years now.

Characterization kind of went out the window the moment Nick started to give a polar bear a footjob, but, you know what, I got to see Nick start to give a polar bear a footjob. And that's why I'm here. If I want to see Nick and Judy act like themselves, I HAVE THE MOVIE ON DVD, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

I, uh, like physical media.

But anyway, I mean, at least the previous arguments about penis drawings on this and the other deleted thread were actually, you know, discussing jack off preferences, which is the point. If you're angry Nick is gay because you don't like gay porn, well, I mean, still kind of stupid, but at least you get what the point of the comic is (one more time, to jack off to). If you're angry Nick is gay in the comic because Nick isn't gay in the movie, well, I mean, fuck you, that's stupid. Also, actually, kind of homophobic and just not very "woke" of you. I mean, did you just assume Nick's sexual preference? He's not a screamingly camp queen, so of course he must be straight.

There has been a lot of stupid comments about this comic, but this is the second one to actually make me annoyed (the other being the, uh, one that actually got comments deleted). I mean, fuck, Judy fucking her neighbors is just a better drawn version of an old Weaver comic, and if you don't like Zaush, well, he's the fucking Woody Allen of furry porn, if you get what I'm saying (I'm saying he probably rapes people).

As for the FoxyTeaser comic, well, the funny thing is, I don't think it accurately reflects the characters as portrayed in the movie. Judy comes off as a "love" obsessed, infatuated teenager. But her dressing up as a fox is oddly cute, so who cares.

Still easier to jack off to Mystic Tantra, though.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 06:12:34 No.1344521
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>>1344495
You are right, we haven't seen gay foxes before for decades. WildeHopps fanarts must be so tiring to look at when you are gay and just want to jerk off, you can't find any other gay fox to jerk off to... poor you

Edited at 2017/11/06 06:37:24
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 11:27:16 No.1344618
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>>1344521

Hmm, well, this one's me.

>>1344003

And this one's me, too.

>>1344495

So, umm, points to you, I guess.

(Whining a porn comic isn't a good followup to a kid's cartoon is still stupid, though.)

(Also, here for the Weaver comics ripoff scenes, if you get what I'm saying.)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 20:17:58 No.1344822
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but Judy can't date Nick, she's super gung-ho about being a good cop and fraternization is a no-no

Wildehopps is completely OOC
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Furrynomous 2017/11/06 21:39:09 No.1344838
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>>1344257
99% of Rule 34 is wildly OOC. That is the norm. If the existence of "OOC" Zootopia porn upsets you so much that you have to keep returning to this thread for months you miiiiight have an unhealthy obsession.

And there's plenty of other D-grade Wildehopps fanart and fanfiction if that's the only thing that will make you happy.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 12:14:41 No.1345537
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>>1344183

Again, there are HUNDREDS of us here. Stop assuming RobCivecat is the only pro-WildeHopps person in existence. I can assure you that I am not RobCivecat, nor am I affiliated with him. I'm just using his comic as an example of how even the most basic, by-the-numbers Zootopia story can still show more devotion to the source material than Zaush's comic, despite literally having HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS thrown at it on Patreon. You can hate on RobCivecat all you want, but at least his comics are done out of an actual appreciation for Zootopia and its characters, whereas Zaush deliberately goes out of his way to mess with it simply because he can (I mean come on! Nick Wilde as a gay prostitute? Seriously?!).

And then, to make matters worse, if you dare to say anything even remotely negative about his portrayal of the characters or his questionable writing, he'll block you indefinitely. Remember the borderline pedophilia and incest in his Daddy's Little Secrets comic? People are still upset about that, and for a good reason, too. They didn't like seeing their hard-earned dollars being wasted on such a creepy, borderline illegal mess of a comic that they spoke up, only to be labelled as "haters" and forced to stay silent about the whole thing. And now, he's doing the exact same thing with this comic. Zaush has no respect for his audience or the source material. It doesn't take an art-savvy genius to figure out why people like me are taking issue with his work.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 13:00:07 No.1345550
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>>1344260

>"Taking established characters and depicting them in situations that goes contrary to their personalities is a fetish/turn on for a lot of people."

>Implying that being OOC is a fetish.

Are you seriously trying to justify bad writing by calling it a fetish? That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen in this thread yet.

Edited at 2017/11/08 13:02:06
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 13:25:29 No.1345553
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>>1345550
did i say this writing is award winning? no. did i say anywhere that zaush is a good writer capable of coherent storylines? no. what i did say is that this comic is not even remotely close to being bad because the characters are out of character. not a single fuckin chance. you can criticize the comic for a slew of other issues, but that point is not one that can be argued. the writer is free to give the characters any personality that can choose, as long as they make the story workable. if you complain that they aren't faithful to the source material, leave. i think it's hot seeing judy being drug down to nick's level and becoming a wanton slut. we can still she has has that competitive fire in her, so it's cool to see them in another, lewder situation. that says nothing of the rather shoddy art, but complaining that your favorite ship hasn't sailed and that 'bawww they must be acting out of character, they aren't acting how i see they should act'

you people get so fanatically worked up over your porn, its actually insane. mega yikes my dude, go outside.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 14:48:26 No.1345567
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>>1345537
Cry somwhere else Rob
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 15:25:02 No.1345575
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>>1345567

He literally just said that he is not RobCivecat. What more does he have to do to convince you?

Besides, have you even been keeping up with all the activity here? Even if Rob was in this thread, there are way too many different people posting here for it to all be coming from just one guy. Quit trolling and move on.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 15:40:36 No.1345579
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>>1345553

Did I ever imply that Nick and Judy need to be romantically involved in order to be considered "in chatacter"? No. You're the one who brought up shipping, not me. All I'm saying is that claiming flawed, inconsistent characterization is "a turn on" does not justify making Nick a prostitute. It's not even remotely close to anything people would imagine that character doing, so if anything, it just takes them out of the story and ruins any sexyness this comic could've had.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 17:14:49 No.1345599
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>>1345579
Its painfully obvious when you sockpuppet Rob
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 18:00:45 No.1345615
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Don't you guys have anything better to do than argue about this inane BS? Like maybe you should take a good long look about what your spending your time on arguing about here. Does any of this petty nonsense matter? Isn't there something productive you could be doing?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 18:33:13 No.1345626
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>>1345599

It's so adorable how you think everybody who criticizes Zaush is either a WildeHopps fanboy, RobCivecat, or both. Seriously, grow up and accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. None of us are sockpuppets. Get that through your head.

People like you are the reason the original Mystic Tantra thread was deleted.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 20:00:25 No.1345661
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>>1345626
Rob, pls. Stop embarrassing yourself
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 21:45:24 No.1345690
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 22:18:11 No.1345698
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>>1345661

I'm not Rob, okay. My sentences are too proofread to be from him. You even mentioned that yourself.

Quit being a creep or I'll call the admins on you. I'm dead serious. Stop trolling on this thread. You're ruining it for everyone.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/08 23:31:25 No.1345716
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>>1345698

Oh God no, not the overworked admins. Gonna call their Brussels office or the Interpol front desk instead?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 00:06:25 No.1345730
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>>1345698
>I'll call the admins on you
There's no way this is real. Are you 12?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 01:38:51 No.1345761
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>>1345690
whoa Zaush, you really got triggered by it that someone said, that there is a comic better than yours

Say what you want, there is actually pleasure in that comic while in yours everyone looks like they are unhappy to be in it. Look at this bear. Does he look like he enjoys being here?

Edited at 2017/11/09 01:41:48
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 01:51:34 No.1345762
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>>1345690

>Implying Zaush can draw better facial expressions than RobCivecat.

At least the characters in Rob's comic actually look alive. Zaush, on the other hand, has been at it for over a decade and yet he still draws everyone with the same lifeless facial expressions.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 02:39:40 No.1345766
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>>1345762
Rob's characters do look alive in kind of a Terry Schiavo way I guess.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 02:50:38 No.1345770
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*looking at WTF is going in this thread*
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Inconsistent image resolutions... Furrynomous 2017/11/09 02:55:58 No.1345772
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While downloading this comic (for research purposes, of course), I've noticed that there seems to be some inconsistencies in the resolution. While most of the pages posted here are in the full resolution of 2850x3733, a couple pages, namely 2 and 18, are shrunk down and are noticeably lower in image quality. Would anyone be up to the task of fixing that?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 03:22:30 No.1345776
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>>1345766

They look lively enough to me. As long as I can tell what's going through their heads, I consider it to be decent enough. As for those awkward faces in that comic, they really only look weird when they're taken out of context.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 06:03:21 No.1345810
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>>1341366
lol what a fucking moron. All he had to do was shut his stupid mouth and appreciate the show.


>>1343186
Link for artist or comic from where it came from? Thought was from this one but can't find it.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 06:50:03 No.1345821
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>>1345772
full rez
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 06:50:06 No.1345822
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 08:19:01 No.1345831
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>>1345776
Really? That's your standard for art? "Decent"? You're seriously going to sit here and tell me that face does it for you?

The thing is that those faces don't look any better "in context," whatever that's supposed to mean here. The reason they got picked out was because they are immediately jarring. The only way they could look better "in context" is if they were surrounded by even worse looking faces, making them look better by average.

What brilliant excuse will you think up next to explain why the shortcomings in Rob's comic aren't a big deal? So far we have "H-he's new guys!", "A-at lease he's original!" and now, my favorite, "I-it's okay enough!"

Here, since you seem to have such a hard time constructing a reasonable case for liking Rob's comic over this one, I'll do it for you:
"I like more intimate, interpersonal comics over straightforward pornography, so Rob's comic is more appealing to me. Zaush's art may be better than Rob's, but to me the story being told is more important so I'm willing to overlook the difference in experience as long as the writing conveys the type of mood and emotional connection that I'm looking for. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but that's okay. Live and let live."
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 08:45:20 No.1345835
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>>1345776

Yeeesh.. What is that face?

>>1345831

Exactly.If you dislike the full on orgy-mode that is constantly found in Zaush's comics It,s fine, but don't bullshit up some excuse like "he doesn't know how to draw facial expressions" because that's not true and you know it.

I don't personally like Zaush's stuff because of the whole "let's treat that one character like a cum rag" dynamics. But I won't pretend it's because his art is shit.

Edited at 2017/11/09 08:45:51
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 09:10:44 No.1345839
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>>1345831
You are still acting like a triggered retard. Nobody said that his artstyle is better than Zaush, you are the one who singled that thing out to bash something that somebody likes because by god, it is forbidden to be wanting more than empty emotionless orgies.

You can continue your incoherant rambling about why those faces look bad, that wont change it that at least that comic tries to work with the characters instead of just using them to fill up their furry trope role of "gay fox" "slutty bunny" which is unoriginal and booring and I have seen a hundred times already

Edited at 2017/11/09 09:16:03
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 09:33:58 No.1345842
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>>1345810

comic is here
>>1281134

Edited at 2017/11/09 09:34:21
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 09:36:40 No.1345843
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>does it for you
if you think THAT face in the middle of the exposition was SUPPOSE to be appealing you are dumb.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 10:10:09 No.1345855
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>>1345842
Stop shilling your shitty comic here Rob
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 10:16:47 No.1345856
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>>1345855
Don't tell him what to do Zaush
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 13:04:16 No.1345877
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>>1345839
>You are still acting like a triggered retard.
Muh ableist slurs.

>At least he's trying to be original guis!
Couldn't even come up with a new excuse for why we should care, eh? I gave you an easy out, something that is pretty much unassailable, and instead you're still here, flapping on about how much better Rob's shit comic is.

This comic, for all of it's tropey nonsense, at least knows what it is. It doesn't have any pretensions about being anything other than kink-laden titillation. Rob and his sycophants tout their pile as if it is somehow above all while missing the fact that it is filled to the brim with just as much tropey nonsense and bland, uninspired plot lines as what they're supposedly better than.

What else am I supposed to criticize it for if not it's sub-par art? We're never going to agree on plot because for some reason you think "woman whose feelings for friend turn out to be something more" is the height of creative achievement. So yes, I laugh at the art because it is plain for everybody to see that it is bad. It's not even in the same ballpark and the level of writing on display couldn't possibly make up for it because it's just not interesting. Given the choice between the two, I'm going to stick with the one that doesn't look like a wad of gum stuck to the underside of a desk.

Also it's funny to me to see you try to scramble to reframe the conversation as anything other than "Rob is delusional and his art is shit." It fills me with glee. It's the only thing I have going for me in my pathetic life so please, keep replying.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 13:24:35 No.1345880
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>>1345877
reading your triggered shaming of someone else's art because someone likes that cartoony style more and berating the plot of a still ongoing comic makes you look equally ridiculous so please, keep going since we both seem to get a laugh out of the other
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 14:43:17 No.1346012
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>>1345855

You've literally accused over half a dozen different people on this thread of being Rob now. Are you paranoid or something?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 19:39:24 No.1346106
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>>1345835

>'Yeeesh.. What is that face?"

It's called an outward expression of bewilderment. It's a way for characters to show their emotions, which is something that's sorely lacking throughout most of Zaush's work.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 20:16:13 No.1346123
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>>1346106
It doesn't look bewildered though? It looks more off model than anything else.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/09 21:35:41 No.1346144
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>>1345880
I'm kind of amazed it took us this long to get to the "Rob isn't bad at art that's just his style" excuse
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The Wandering Pikachu 2017/11/10 05:39:54 No.1346221
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>>1345772
What kind of "research" purposes? And I myself noticed that, but I just assumed that because the other pages with the images uploaded at a lower res were not that big at a lower res, that was just the full size for that one for some reason... as sometimes, comics do have higher/lower resolution on some pages versus others on one/both measurements. But I guess that was a mistake, since I think Zaush is pretty good about making his pages be the same size for each page, not that I've kept a record of what he does too much with projects like these. XD

>>1340662
As for this latest one... holy crap! :O He slept with Judy's mom WHILE Judy's dad was watching them? Damn, Stu must be kinky... as is Bonnie, but less so than Stu! And I have to wonder how Judy might react, even while in the throes of passion/sex.

I assume this sex between them "counts" for the bet between Judy/Nick? Since page 19 was a little confusing near the end imo, but I assume they're not just having sex because of a mutual attraction to each other/being in the same place at the right time? Even if that sounds like a possibility as well, even if the latter one's maybe not the only reason. ;) Dunno if Zaush has said anything or anyone knows, at least about their pairing here.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/10 10:21:41 No.1346296
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>>1346144

It's true, though. Just because someone like Rob has a different drawing style doesn't automatically make him an inferior artist. In fact, in a lot of ways, his style actually gives him an edge over Zaush. Take the backgrounds and lighting for example. In Rob's comic, the characters actually look like they're in the setting because they're shaded properly and interact with the world around them, which looks far more lively than Zaush's comic, where they're simply juxtaposed in front of a static CGI background. Plus, unlike Zaush, Rob actually knows how to properly draw a realistic fox's genitalia instead of lazily slapping a human penis on everyone.

Either way, if some people prefer the style of one artist over another, that's perfectly fine and totally within their right to do so. There's no need to get all up in arms over something like this. Besides, I'd reckon most of the Zaush fanboys on this thread bashing Rob probably can't even draw half as well as he can anyway, so it's silly for them to act as if they're somehow more qualified than everyone else when it comes to judging art.

Edited at 2017/11/10 10:23:56
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Furrynomous 2017/11/10 10:45:55 No.1346298
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>>1346296
>can't even draw half as well as he can anyway, so it's silly for them to act as if they're somehow more qualified

It still don't take a chef to taste a turd sandwich.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/10 13:45:22 No.1346349
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This comic is to zoot fans what Adam Sandler's PIXELS was for gamers.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/10 17:32:42 No.1346402
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>>1346349
Only a moron would find a fan comic offensive, which 90% of the Zootopia fans here seem to be. That's like being a fan of Spongebob and seeing him fuck Plankton, and then crying about how their characters would never do such a thing in their original writing and blah blah blah.

It's fucking porn and a FAN made it; it's just another art piece another fan made, like any other fan art. Who the hell cares??? Why get offended by it??? You have way too much time on your hands, morons. "But we're just passionate about what we love. There's nothing wrong with that." Ok then, passionate morons.

Edited at 2017/11/10 17:39:17
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Furrynomous 2017/11/10 21:15:31 No.1346431
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>>1346298
I don't mind the idea of people disliking this comic. It's the way they go about it.

Let's say this was a completely original cast and setting with new characters, would you still hate it as much as you do? It seems a lot of people hate this simply because it's zootopia.

Secondly, I don't know why people act like this is a turd sandwich. I admit the story isn't good and it's art isn't anything mind blowing but people act like this is completely garbage. At least the writing is somewhat competent despite not sticking closely to the source material and the art is definitely not that bad, just not as good as it can be with the quality of art we've seen from this artist. Personally, I don't see why people don't just brush it off as a mediocre product and move on. If you're finding some enjoyment out of it, keep reading it, if you're unhappy with it, you should move on. If you have some ideas about how you would have done it, peacefully share that info and see how people respond. There is no need to act like this comic is the my immortal version of zootopia.

I can't tell any of you what to do, but I highly recommend you do these things if you want to actually appear like mature adults or to change anyone's minds.
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/11/10 21:57:20 No.1346435
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Sketch is out
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 04:45:16 No.1346459
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 04:45:17 No.1346460
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>>1346459
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 09:21:15 No.1346478
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>>1346460
I had thus far refrained from commenting again on this comic because of the ridiculous discussion going on here but... uh... this is... what... how is this sensible writing, visually or narratively, how is it a fitting ending for this comic at all, how is this development not completely out-of-the-blue?

Edited at 2017/11/11 10:20:50
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 14:06:27 No.1346536
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>>1346459
>>1346460
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 14:07:27 No.1346537
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Wow, the ending is even worse than the whole thing. Glad it's over, and you guys will be glad to see me gone from commenting on this garbage pile.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 14:25:59 No.1346545
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>>1346402
true, only a moron finds a fan-comic offensive. I don't. There are planty of fancomics which I don't like, like the BogoxNick comics, but I can actually feel the artist's honest intentions and love for the franchise in it.

Those totally lack here. I don't read a comic, inspired by zootopia. I read a general orgy story that would work with OCs better than zootopia's characters, and that's kinda my problem. It's just lazy writing, and someone his caliber with payment and following as high as his should've aimed higher. I am highly dissapointed because this doesn't feel like a fancomic, it's just a half-assed attempt to appease a group that he has no connection to.

Edited at 2017/11/11 14:53:42
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/11/11 15:07:32 No.1346574
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Wow, the ending is even worse than the whole thing. Glad it's over, and you guys will be glad to see me gone from commenting on this garbage pile.

So glad you will be so many trolls on here when we just want to fap
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 16:50:59 No.1346599
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zaush draws the characters very faithfully to the movie its undeniable how good the art itself is. now, the problems lie elsewhere.

The plot is nonsensical, especially these last 2 pages are just like wtf was that, how is letting her win imply that she would hook up with gideon I literally can't understand what he means by this.

the dick sizes are ridiculous and out of place, and they all look exactly like copies of eachother, literal copies of eachother with the same color and everything, no one has a different foreskin or shape, the tiger dicks are just bigger versions of gideon's dick wtf zaush.

He spends too much time drawing bad angles and stuff no one wants to see, and then spends like 2 panels on actual penetration and cum, zaush, focus on the sex, draw different positions draw different angles, introduce progression to the sex scene, I dont care about an angle where u only can infer that 2 wolves are fucking on the lower corner, and for the love of god I dont care about 2 characters discussing dildos and shit in the middle of the sex scene with no genitals being drawn only dialogue.

He shows inferred penetration of judy and then cuts to her mother being fucked but again terrible angle not even fappable stop with the bullshit and draw a side angle an angle looking up, reduce his dick size for fucks sake and maybe 3 panels for the orgasm alone pulsing balls, balls deep shots then removal and cum gush now thats a yiff comic.

its amazing how i have such trouble fapping to such good art. thats how badly this is done.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 16:56:07 No.1346602
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>>1346599
I think it's good and you are crying far too much about furry comics.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 21:10:16 No.1346711
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Aah, I kinda liked it.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/11 22:50:17 No.1346749
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wtf... What was that ending? Was I supposed to be under the impression that he was helping her with Gideon? Where was this shown in this comic? I must have missed a dozen or so pages. Lol.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 05:02:00 No.1346849
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When you see a drawing of Superman killing Batman, you don't call that a Batman-fanart.

The same way this wasn't a zootopia fancomic, it was a cuck/orgy fancomic that was wrapped into a zootopia theme that doesn't work.

All you guys who love this only love it because you don't give a fuck about zootopia, you just see it as a new source of fap material... as your hundreds of other gay foxes and slutty bunnies aren't enough. You guys are the pathetic crybabies.

"aaah, I'm so tired of wildehopps"
nobody forces you to fap to zootopia. Gtfo

Edited at 2017/11/12 05:04:18
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 05:04:31 No.1346856
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>>1346599

People always complaining instead of making their own drawings and comics, hehe...
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 06:20:43 No.1346892
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>>1346849
Stop bitching already Rob you got your precious straight fox in the end
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 08:04:25 No.1346944
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I didn't think this comic can get even worse on the term of degrading a character after making Nick an actual gay prostitue but this...
Judy being a slutty bitch who plans on fucking the boyfriend of her childhood friend regularly in the future? And you guys seriously can fap to this? Do you just want a slutty buny or Judy?

And if just a slutty bunny, why the fuck does it has to be Judy? It's so dumb.

>>1346892
who the hell cares about Gideon, Zaush? We were promised a Nick/Judy comic, nobody gives a damn about that fat fuck except for some fat losers who can only project themselves into those kind of characters, regardless how little chemistry they might have with the female lead.

Edited at 2017/11/12 08:22:15
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 10:39:11 No.1346980
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Read the thread comments. Came to the conclusion. Gay furry men, this right there is why you can't have nice things. If you sat back and reread all of this, you'd see how totally embarrassing you all sound, if you had any self awareness about yourself.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 17:31:09 No.1347159
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https://picarto.tv/zaush/6a0bd21b2ddf632b04cc2e939e9f7217
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/11/12 17:45:15 No.1347182
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Anyone got the link to the stream happening now? I ain't a grass don't you worry
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Furrynomous 2017/11/12 21:59:48 No.1347270
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>>1346296
Rob is definitely spending a lot more TIME shading his comics, but the overall result is worse because he's unpracticed. His shadows don't match up with his light sources (and often change direction from panel to panel), his lights and shadow colors don't complement each other, and he throws this ridiculous light-bloom all over everything that most artists realized was a bad idea in the late 2000s. He also tends to use extremely dark and harsh shading, which is something you generally want to avoid in illustration unless you're going for an intense/menacing mood. In genres like action, slapstick, and porn, where the poses of the characters need to read clearly, it's usually better to stick to subtle lighting that keeps the image simple rather than muddying it.

If people don't notice or mind any of that, I get it--Rob does seem to have a lot more emotional investment in the subject matter. But then claiming discerning artistic taste when it comes to Zaush's comics seems disingenuous imo
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 05:53:01 No.1347369
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>>1346944
>We were promised a Nick/Judy comic
For the dozenth time.
No. You. Fucking. Weren't.
Dipshit.

Edited at 2017/11/13 05:53:37
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 06:21:40 No.1347375
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>>1347369
>Nick/Judy =/= NickxJudy (WildeHopps)
all I meant, that we were promised a comic with them as the leads.
>Nick makes Judy feel uncomfortable at the Mystic Spring
that's not what we got. What we got was
>Nick hooks up Judy with Gideon
I understand the premise should not give away a twist ending, but the twist ending should not contradict the original setting that was promised
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 07:56:04 No.1347394
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I'd say this whole comic should go in /c/ because I counted the straight panels to gay panels ratio.

It's 40 to 34, not counting just the sex-faces of the characters without anything else visible, thus making the comic mostly straight and we have the fact in the end the story went towards Judy anyways. Nick was just along for the "ride", so to speak.

Edited at 2017/11/13 07:57:39
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/11/13 08:09:30 No.1347399
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Has anyone got the final 2 pages?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 11:08:16 No.1347461
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>>1347399
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 11:08:18 No.1347462
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>>1347461
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Mystic Tantra stockportlad86 2017/11/13 11:24:37 No.1347467
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>>1347461

you got the finished product?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 11:26:43 No.1347468
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Love how triggered people are by Zaush's comic lmao. So sad. They go so far out of their way to convince themselves that their criticism is purely objective when it isn't and never will be. 2badSosad.

Edited at 2017/11/13 12:27:27
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 11:59:03 No.1347476
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>>1347462

Nick has a mark too, only it's a tattoo of a biohazard symbol.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 14:11:22 No.1347503
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>>1347462
"I've got the mark to prove it"

She couldve easily just put it on herself.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 17:51:58 No.1347600
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https://picarto.tv/zaush/0dfb53b5b98200d90efc78ea8e7b8b85
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 21:32:16 No.1347671
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>>1347476

Hnnngh.

Bugchasing Nick comic is something I never knew I needed 'til just now.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/13 22:51:20 No.1347680
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>>1347679
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Furrynomous 2017/11/18 06:47:52 No.1349451
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>>1347679
Now let's saunter out like nothing happened.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 09:12:13 No.1351010
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Well that was antclimactic as hell
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 13:44:29 No.1351062
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nobody in the actual active zootopia fandom likes this comic and that's saying something.

Maybe that zootopia fandom is made of maximalist whiny bitches...

Maybe that the furry fandom is made of degenerated assholes eating up any well-drawn porn without any standards
in writing.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 14:06:50 No.1351065
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>>1351062
imagine getting anywhere near this angry over a furry porn comic

i mean i don't think 'get a life' is a well thought out insult, but in this case i think it fits disturbingly well
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 14:09:23 No.1351067
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>>1351065
it's not just a "furry porn comic".
it was suppose to be a "Zootopia porn comic"
and someone left out the zootopia
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 14:14:33 No.1351070
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Aside from that, Does anyone know what Zaush's next planned comic he will do in the future?

Edited at 2017/11/20 14:44:00
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XX 2017/11/20 14:34:56 No.1351084
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>>1343961

Seeing that top panel makes me feel old.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/20 18:26:27 No.1351159
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>>1351067
Except for using the likeness but not personalities correctly.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/21 11:13:34 No.1351466
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>>1351062
Maybe we all suck
Its a shitty comic, so what, lets just add it to the pile. What else are we supposed to do, harass the artist until he spends money to hire a writer?

>>1351067
Just accept it as a shitty furry porn comic that uses the characters likeness then.

There are two types of comics
Porn comics
story comics
This is definitely the former. It's certainly not a great porn comic but its porn, as long as it shows a dick here and there, it passes the criteria. Once it hits that point, its not that it lacks all criticism, its just that the criticism is pointless. Lets compare the hatred felt towards BvS compared to its porn counterpart. You don't see people get pissed about porno because it was never meant to be a good story. I'm not saying people need to stop criticizing the comic, just that I think they shouldn't act as if a couple bad comics that don't follow the source material is the artist personally raping your asshole.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/23 23:38:48 No.1352326
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So many triggered Wildehopps fans...

omfg...
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 00:31:38 No.1352340
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>>1352326
When Nick and Judy aren't being shipped for the 1000th time
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 04:56:21 No.1352375
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>>1352326
Better to be a triggered WildeHopps fan than a pathetic fat loser who only ships Judeon because he can only insert himself into the the fat fox.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 07:32:00 No.1352406
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Still hoping someone makes a WildeSavage comic
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 12:27:59 No.1352445
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>>1352375
What a superficial person. You don't know him. Maybe he's a good person inside. That's really sad.

Also, Gideon is fat? Well, Bowser, Asgore. D and Juuichi and Tatsuki (both of Morenatsu) are fat too and a lot of people of the fandom want to yiff with them.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 12:30:12 No.1352446
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And why not Wildehopps complainig in the "Dress to undress" comic (the NickxFinnick")?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 16:03:11 No.1352476
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>>1351062

>Massive insertions and gallons of cum used as bad points

Get a look at this stupid piece of shit.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 20:14:45 No.1352576
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>>1352406
Me too, man
Me too
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Furrynomous 2017/11/24 23:09:53 No.1352649
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>>1352446
I think the main excuse for that one is that Dress to undress was known from the start to be a gay comic between the two.

The excuse I expect is "we thought this was promised to be a wildexhopps story" when I'm pretty sure that Zaush from the start said it would be gay focused.

Does that excuse the comic for its other flaws? No. Does that mean any of us should be pissed off beyond any comprehensible thought about those flaws? NO!

to summarize: The thought that there were people that were somehow angry about this comic is starting become downright hilarious. It's just a bad comic, so what? Still better than half the shit jasonfex puts out.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 04:06:45 No.1352684
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>>1352446
The real reason why this comic gets hate is not because it's not a WildeHopps comic. As much shit you talk WildeHopps shipper can enjoy other shippings too.

The reason this comic gets hate is because it left many dissapointed. Zaush's artstyle fits the Zootopia setting stunningly. With visuals like these this had the chance to be the BEST zootopia comic ever made, instead what he got is a mean spirited middle finger to the characters.

Nobody really invested in the source material can really, unironically enjoy listening to Judy being such a slut that she imagines having sex with every male she meets (excepts for Nick that I still call bullshit on), and even have custom made dildos of them. Or Nick being a cocksucking gay prostitute using his body instead of his witts. Or Gideon being a cheating unfaithful dickhead while he dates Sharla.

It's one thing that Zaush can't write likeable characters, but that he somehow managed to fill previously enstablished, likeable characters with so many dislikeable traits that it overshadows the good parts of the characters is a new level of shitty writing on his part.

Zootopia fans dislike this cheating, cucking and swinging mentality. And for many, Zootopia is the enter to the furry fandom, so this comic is our introduction to Zaush. And if this is the best he could do, I ask him politely to leave Zootopia alone because he obviously doesn't understand what made those characters relatable and likeable in the first place.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 04:20:27 No.1352686
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>>1352684

It's a fictional story.

It's porn.

Non of this is supposed to be "canon".

For fuck's sake, it's PORN.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 04:22:13 No.1352687
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>>1352684

And saying "WAHHHH HE DIDN'T WRITE THEM LIKE THEY ARE IN THE SHOW, NICK WOULDN'T BEHAVE THIS WAY" sounds as ridiculous and stupid as complaining about how the Mario Bros porno portrayed Mario.

Asperger's is a hell of a drug.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 05:53:05 No.1352699
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>>1352576
We'll get our comic one day friend....

One day.....
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Anonthemouse 2017/11/25 06:31:10 No.1352717
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>>1352686
Then why even use zootopia characters in the first place?
Oh right
Patreon moneys
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 08:10:15 No.1352737
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>>1352699
He's not canon. Gary stu?

>>1352717
Patreon? That characters (Judy, Nick, Finnick, Gideon, Mr. otterson) are copyright by Disney? Noticias Creative Commons so in theory you can not get money with them. If Disney notices this Zaush could be un a trouble (claim for Copyright)
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 12:45:29 No.1352867
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>>1352737
>Gary stu?
Jack is a character from a very early concept of Zootopia where it had a more 'James Bond' story iirc.
Just because he doesn't exist in the canon movie doesn't make the character a Gary Stu.
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Libra 2017/11/25 15:15:54 No.1352932
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>>1352687

Really? Ritalin/meth, adderall, bath salts, but you pick Asperger's?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 17:05:10 No.1352952
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>>1352686
Just because I accept it that it's just porn, doesn't mean I'm not upset with it that the opportunity for it to be an actually good fan-comic was wasted.

I just hoped for something different than all the cucking and swinging he always does.

I hoped that these well-written characters pull him up instead of him dragging them down.

Now, no matter what he would do with zootopia, since an artist's style is pretty defining, I won't be able to enjoy it, since I will be reminded of these versions of Nick and Judy. He will never be able to draw them actually "making love". He won't be able to make me believe that they are loyal and loving with eachother (I'm sorry, but that's MY fetish.) even if he would say "oh this is completly unrelated to the previous comic's story". No... just no... I don't want anymore Zootopia from him this way.

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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 19:38:16 No.1352978
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>>1352737
>Jack Savage
>Gary Stu
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 20:14:32 No.1352985
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>>1352978

A "Mary Sue" character is an OC that fanfic writers create to interact with the cast of an established work. This character is often depicted as hypercompetant at just about everything she puts her mind to, is universally loved by the canon cast and lacks any sense of realistic flaws. The phrase was coined from a particularly godawful Star Trek fic. So, cringe.

A "Gary Sue" is just the male version for this.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 20:42:18 No.1352998
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>>1352985
I know what a Mary and Gary Sue are. My question is how Jack Savage is a Gary Sue.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/25 20:47:49 No.1352999
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>>1352998
I don't really get it either, but I guess the point is that in many incarnations in fanfics and comics, Jack is just an universal OC.

Since he has no canon personality, every artists uses it's design as a suit they can pull on a character the plot needs, so he almost always feels like a plot-device character, and always needs to be in the center, hogging the spotlight, and that kinda makes him Gary Sue-ish
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 00:13:58 No.1353044
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>>1352999
I've seen some WildeSavage fanfiction that actually does good stuff with Jack.

But yeah, comics on the other hand have basically only used Jack as a plot device for WildeHopps shit.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 01:19:18 No.1353056
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>>1352985

May you please give an example using Seinfeld?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 03:20:11 No.1353072
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>>1352684
Then allow me to inform you of something sweetheart. You are bound for many, many, many more disappointments.

To start, yes, Zaush style could fit well but just because it had the potential to be a great comic doesn't mean its the worst thing to ever exist. Sure, the characters aren't anywhere near their movie counterparts but I see nothing mean spirited about it. It's just a skewed and wildly different interpretation of the characters nor do I see a reason to be angry. oh well, you don't like the characters or story. Just another artist who could have better comics if he actually got an actual writer. It happens....a lot.

Also, as someone who loves the zootopia movie, I still accept this comic for what it is. Just because the characters don't act like their movie counter parts doesn't mean that I'm gonna bitch and moan about it. As someone else pointed out. It would be like complaining about mario in the mario porno. It would be like complaining that leia sucked darth vaders dick in star wars xxx.

Also, if you don't like the fetishes that Zaush uses, I'm sorry but it is just as wrong to expect someone to make a work to appeal to you. I get it if you don't like it or you don't want to support Zaush and I respect that but if you expect him to change his work, then you are shitting on his creative integrity....no matter how shitty his plot is. I also don't like the idea that he should avoid a certain fandom simply because he doesn't understand the source material. If he likes the character designs, I see no reason why he can't fuck around with the characters personalities to fit his story he wants to tell. Does it make it good? no but I still respect his right to do so and don't get butt hurt over it.

and if this is anyone's first furry comic or zaush comic, prepare for the comics to shit on the source material kids. It's kind of what porn does. Get used to it. Try not to be as toxic as the damn undertale community.

>>1352952

It's fine to be disappointed but as I said, prepare for a lot more disappointments. Not every fan comic is gonna be able to live up to the source materiel and they will change things to fit the fetish it wants to present. There was a comic a while back that had Nick Raping Judy over and over.

You also once again make it about WildeHopps. I respect if that is your fetish or your shipping but just because it didn't have those two "making love" doesn't mean that it justifies being extremely butthurt over one comic filled with certain fetishes. If you really want a good wilde hopps comic, then write a story and see if some one in the community is willing to make the comic for you.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 05:20:16 No.1353092
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>>1353072
Someone made a comic about Nick raping Judy? Lol seriously?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 07:36:29 No.1353115
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>>1353092
I think he talks about the japanese hentai doujinshi where Nick "wins" a bet and as a reward Judy promised sex but she ask him to stop when it hurts her (which he doesn't so he looks kinda rapey)

The entire plot is that she actually starts to like it as she gets used to his size, but when she finds out he cheated to win in the first place, she starts fucking him till he begs her to stop.

It's a typical japanese fetish I have seen it in many works.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 11:55:32 No.1353158
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>>1353115
Yeah, that is the one. I'm sure it's not the first and it's certainly not the last because people are gonna use the characters to act out their fantasies. If it's not your fetish, that is fine but you shouldn't be legitimately angry and hateful simply because someone uses the characters in a way you don't like. It is just such a waste of energy to hate it. It would be like hating the transformers movies. Even if the content is bad, I can critique it, explain what it could have done better, and not get emotional about it.

For example, I've already said a long time ago that I wish the whole comic was centered on either Nick or Judy and not both. Could have helped with focusing more on the sex plus could have developed the characters a bit more than cock sleeves. I'm fine with him changing nick into a gay prostitute but if he is gonna change the characters back story, build up to it. Don't leave the emotional connections to rely on the movie.

If I had to describe my type of criticism, it would be a shrug of the arms while saying "it could be better".
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 17:57:45 No.1353239
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>>1353158
I also only provide my criticism.

I criticize that the creator was more interested in degenerating the characters with sickening backstories to justify the present situation than focusing on the present situation.

Seriously. Edit out Judy having custom dildos of her neighbours, and daydreaming about fucking Gideon. Leave out the part about Nick teasing Judy that she didn't get laid since knowing him and the part where he brags about being a gay prostitute and this comic could be enjoyable.

If he would've left us readers fill up blank parts with our imagination like:
"Nick is getting double teamed by the tigers because he actually found out that Judy has a secret gayporn fetish and she wanted to see that, and he wants to fulfill her gf's fantasies"
I could honestly enjoy that.

But I can't because the narration doesn't leave blank parts, and the parts that are there are really bad.... really, really bad.

And when someone puts this much effort into presenting these characters in such unlikeable form, I can only believe that he hates them.

This is my criticism:
Hate radiates off this comic.
I feel like Zaush hated working on it.
He hated it that it won the poll and he wanted to take revenge on the characters for it.

This is how this comic makes me feel, so I won't apologize when I say:
If you hate the characters so much, just stay the fuck away from them, Zaush

Edited at 2017/11/26 18:04:32
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 18:05:58 No.1353248
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>>1353239

Cry me a table, Linda.

Detach yourself from the lives of these fictional characters, take a step back, and look at how you're acting. It's honestly more than a little sad.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 22:49:19 No.1353327
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>>1353239
why are you so obsessed with your noncanon ship

is your love life this empty?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/26 23:22:51 No.1353331
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>>1353239
I admit that he could have focused on the actual sex a bit more but its not the filling in the blank parts that is the absolute problem. The problem is how it affects the flow and effect of these things. I would be totally fine with Nick being a gay whore but just throwing it in there for no true reason feels off.

The problem is that you are letting your shipping affect your opinion of the comic. If you don't like the idea of a comic not being a wildexhopps comic, then get out of here. Just because it didn't go the way you wanted doesn't justify the actual criticism nor any actual harsh feelings towards Zaush. It just makes you seem like a giant cry baby. which, hey, the comic is already made, you make the fan edits and jerk off to it in your spare time or share it with your wilde hopps circle jerk sessions

Now lets address your insane troll logic that he MUST hate them. These are Zaush's common fetishes. So of course if he was gonna make a fan comic, he was gonna take lots of creative liberties with the characters. That doesn't mean he hates them because changing aspects of the characters to show them fuck isn't a sign of hatred. A sign of hatred would be having both Nick and Judy being butt raped repeatedly and then have them die. At most, it just shows his ignorance of the characters personalities in the movie.

If he hated Zootopia so much, he wouldn't have had it in the poll in the first place. He controls his own patreon.

The only hatred radiating off this comic is from people like you

The only reason Zaush might have hated working on this comic is listening to fanboys like you bitch

He wouldn't have had it in the poll if he hated it.

All hatred shown is from YOU!

Its a two way street. If you hate the comic, then don't fucking read it fanboy.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 10:25:19 No.1353483
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>>1346892

That's the eighth person you've called Rob in this thread. Please grow up and get a life.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 10:53:55 No.1353491
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>>1352340

This has less to do with WildeHopps being shipped and more to do with how the characters are written. People often pair Nick and Judy together because of their backstories, personalities, and the close relationship they develop throughout the movie. It's believable for these two characters to grow closer together and become more intimate. Seeing Nick and Judy getting pounded by a bunch of nameless background characters isn't, so it's no wonder it rubs so many people the wrong way, especially when they were deliberately misled by the Patreon poll.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 20:51:24 No.1353875
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You misled yourself, lol.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/27 23:49:43 No.1353977
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>>1353491
The wildehopps retards misled themselves pal
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 04:50:19 No.1354174
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>>1353977

I think >>1353491 has nailed why Wildehopps folks are unhappy. If you deviate too much from the canon, they're not the same characters anymore.

I know a lot of these are meant to be brainless whackoff stories, but if Zaush mislead with his Patreon poll, that's maddening.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 05:17:48 No.1354176
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>>1354174
The poll promised a story of "Nick teasing Judy at the Mystic Spring about her limits."

teasing/flirting same thing, it implied nothing of Nick hooking up Judy with fucking Gideon or Judy actually having no limits in the first place...

They just don't feel like Judy and Nick. And it ruins the immersion.

And the funniest about the people defending this is them screaming
>IT'S JUST FUCKING PORN
all I hear is
>LAZY EXCUSE FOR IT TO BE HALF-ASSED

But I don't think he only did it for the money, he is fucking selling the full HD pack seperatly for those who aren't his patreons.

If profit would've been his goal, he should've made it WildeHopps, about ten times more people would buy it that way.

Edited at 2017/11/28 05:18:33
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 05:39:59 No.1354182
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>>1354176
The autism grows...
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 08:30:25 No.1354202
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>>1354182

Says the jackass that uses autism, something that a good number of people have, including myself, as an insult. Irony.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 10:07:42 No.1354220
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QUICK QUESTION
Does anyone know what zaush will make for his next comic story?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 10:36:32 No.1354231
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>>1354176
Teasing doesn't always mean flirting. You can't seriously blame zaush because you projected a bunch of your desires onto a vague description and it ended up being something else.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 11:00:52 No.1354236
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>>1354202

I have autism and you're acting like a bitch. Autist.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 12:52:35 No.1354264
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>>1354231

I expected what would come naturally from the characters not what I just wanted to see. The whole reason WildeHopps is popular is because it's a believable, and probable development for them.

It's what we would've got it he would've cared about zootopia and the characters he used even a little bit. Instead all he cared about is his fetish and he didn't even integrate it right.

>Turns smug, dominant character into a submissive cocksleeve
>Turns optimistic turbo-virgin into a casually dp'd cockslut

This isn't integrating a fetish into a character, it's overwriting the character to the point it stops being the original character completly

Edited at 2017/11/28 12:59:05
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 13:15:52 No.1354271
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>>1354264
sad part is I actually like both submissive cocksleeves and casual cocksluts... but not as Judy and Nick where it doesn't make sense for their characters.

And especially not in a comic where both of them are present. I think that's the main problem why there are any complainers here. Nobody complains on the multiple BogoxNick and FinNick comics because it doesn't demolishes the chemistry between Judy and Nick. Seeing them here at the same place... completly ignoring each other... is just feels forced evasion of the obvious shipping because Zaush wanted to be a special snowflake not jumping board the shipping train.

Only problem, he is not special this way. Every furry comic artist who is good at drawing Nick is making him gay. As much as you haters complain about the excess amout of art, there are way less well-drawn wildehopps comics than gay nick comics.

Why does it hurt you that others want their shipping to be drawn this well for once too?

Edited at 2017/11/28 13:22:38
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 13:42:11 No.1354281
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Maybe because Zaush doesn't ship them, dumbass.

And people wonder why day after day, more people are leaving the Zootopia Fanbase.

People are sick of others bitching "Muh Wildehopps".
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 14:10:20 No.1354299
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>>1354281
he freaking drew them having sex before the movie even came out so he must consider that they look good together how can the movie not add to that?

How can someone watch the movie, see these complex characters that complete eachother in personality, become canon cornfirmed 'best friends' after spending like 3 days together and say "yeah, It's impossible that they will develop anything more".
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 14:51:51 No.1354309
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>>1354299
Lots of people came away not shipping WildeHopps. There's many people out there who don't buy into the narrative that you have to be sexually and romantically linked with someone to have a meaningful connection to someone.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 14:52:06 No.1354310
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>>1354281
That is natural.
Shipping is passion
WildeHopps is basically the only existing ship of Zootopia that's based on actual character and plot development, even if not confirmed, it's the most plausible.

All other ships are just... grabbing two characters that have barely any on-screen interaction and say "these two look good together!"

And without a basis, it's hard to be passionate about a ship.
And without a ship you will eventually lose interest in the fandom.

Those who don't ship wildehopps would leave Zootopia behind eventually. Shippers being passionate just hurries up the inavitable.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 15:47:39 No.1354321
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>>1354310
This is an extremely shallow way to look at any fandom, and even at shipping. Not every person in any given show’s fandom is into shipping, and no healthy fandom will revolve around it to such an extent.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 18:31:02 No.1354384
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>>1354271
Where are all these "well-drawn gay Nick" comics? Besides this, I've only seen like 2. Every other comic has been Wildehopps.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 18:46:49 No.1354393
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Someone define "shipping" for me.
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 20:50:47 No.1354458
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>>1353491
Leia and Han had a wonderful relationship in star wars, doesn't mean that Leia sucking vaders dick pissed me off.

They also weren't that misled by the patreon poll because the original poll said

"Something something nudist club. I imagine this would be the scene you didn't see in the movie where Nick really tries to make Judy uncomfortable, and she's upping the ante to prove wrong his assumptions of her limits" Which isn't that misleading. Especially with how he had another post that pretty much implied it was gonna have gay buttsex in it. >>1354176
Yeah, its half assed. It happens in porn. That's because the main focus in porn is gonna be showing characters fuck, even if they have no reason to or changes the personality of the characters. We're not saying that it somehow makes it good, all we're saying is that there are a thousand better things to complain about than how someone set up a way for a couple of cartoon characters to fuck.

and true, maybe he would have made more money making it wilde hopps, proving that he honestly just wanted to make his own little story of these characters having orgies. Why should we care so much? The only people who might care might be people who actually paid for this content which even then, just express what you would like to the artist and if he doesn't want to create that content, don't pay him and just move on to the next artist. >>1354264
Again, its porn, the characters are gonna be interpreted differently by other people which even then, you seem to have a wildly different intepretation than me.

Nick still has that smugness about him and just because he is a slut doesn't mean he isn't in control. You can take it up the ass and still be dominant. He constantly talks about how he can get any man and anything from him just because he can.

I wouldn't describe Judy as a virgin. I would describe her as naive but confident. She has the confidence that she can beat Nick and is willing to push herself to do so. The only thing I wouldn't have added myself would be the line about the dildos but there has been fan comics of Judy fucking her neighbors too.

Even then, its still porn. Just because the characters don't follow their movie counterparts doesn't mean that we should rage against the artist for not being a good writer. If you don't like it, don't pay for it and don't read it. Otherwise, you just sound like a whiny entitled little brat.
>>1354271
He probably just wanted to draw Nick taking it up the ass and Judy taking two dicks. I don't think there are ulterior motives. I think he just wanted to show both the characters getting fucked.

>>1354310
You can be into a fandom and not have a ship. I personally liked the idea of Nick and Judy just being really good friends. Even then, I don't see why a fan comic has to care about plausible ships or not. Fan comics take place in their own universe so it doesn't matter. If Nick and Bogo hook up in zootopia 2, then i'll start bitching with all of you.

You can ship Nick and Judy and be okay with a Judy and Gideon comic.

Now I know I wrote a lot but let me just put it into as few words as possible. The ships and the movies don't matter. The writing kind of matters but what matters most is that porn comics are NOT worth getting pissed about.

Personally, I've put too much effort into explaining this so I'm done. Hopefully everyone who took the effort to be upset by this will have realize that there are higher priorities in life.
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Furrynomous I AM AN UNIMAGINATIVE TWAT 2017/11/28 21:24:29 No.1354470
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>>1318020

true
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 22:11:51 No.1354486
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>>1354299

Zaush probably shipped them before the film came out (Judging by the amount of art he did). After he saw the film, he probably no longer shipped them (Judging by the 0 amount of art).
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Furrynomous 2017/11/28 22:50:22 No.1354500
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>>1354486
Can he not ship them and just make a comic where they don't fuck?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 13:04:19 No.1354762
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>>1354500

According to this fanbase, no
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 17:41:54 No.1354851
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Would someone define "ship" and "shipping"?
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Furrynomous 2017/11/29 20:19:26 No.1354877
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>>1354851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3-HgwwVT7M&t=279s
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Furrynomous 2017/12/05 14:40:46 No.1357226
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Meanwhile, the last page is getting destroyed by the anti-cucks and Wildehopps shippers on E621.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/06 08:21:29 No.1357631
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>>1357226
Yeah, I saw the last page had like -60 votes. I already had a feeling the comments were full of Wildehopps retards going full apeshit.

Seriously, I would never expected this movie to spew out such a toxic ship.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/06 08:48:32 No.1357639
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>>1357631
>toxic ship
More like it's the most non-crack ship of the fandom.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/06 08:56:32 No.1357641
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>>1357226
>anti-cuck
This comment says a lot about this board
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Furrynomous 2017/12/06 14:58:30 No.1357755
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The important thing is it’s finally over.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/07 00:09:16 No.1357946
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geez all i wanted is to find more updates but i had to scroll way too long because of people having stupid arguments nobody cares about once again, lol i missed this site
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Furrynomous 2017/12/07 05:04:59 No.1357989
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(insert comment about how there's a button you can click to hide the fucking comments)

This comic is over, there are no updates.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/07 10:09:22 No.1358055
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Still better than that other Zootopia comic that became a meme recently.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/07 16:57:44 No.1358254
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>>1358055
You'll have to be more specific
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Furrynomous 2017/12/07 18:51:04 No.1358314
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Stop inventing 'tags' just for whatever reason. It is stupid to have this much tags, we should only have tags like 'macro' 'sketch' 'colored' not things like 'topkek' 'adrenaline' 'hell yes x3' -.-
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Furrynomous 2017/12/08 12:19:47 No.1358625
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I really want Judy to become pregnant with Gideons child. Thats right, I'm weird!
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Furrynomous 2017/12/20 18:07:32 No.1364224
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This whole argument over the artist's tactics, his respect for the characters, etc. is tiresome and, ultimately, pointless; it's porn, it's what he wanted, don't give a shit about the details. Which is why I'm trying so hard not to point out that "tantric yoga" doesn't work the way the comic depicts it to work.
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Furrynomous 2018/04/29 07:05:15 No.1428322
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https://youtu.be/gDCPDjsts7U

Jasonafex just posted this interview with Zaush recently in which he basically just mindlessly praises him for over an hour. Why is this relevent? Because at the 10:10 mark, this comic gets brought up, and he even goes as far as to say that it's "the best Zootopia comic of its kind", that it "emulated the art style of the movie better than anyone else", and that "people really loved it".

I seriously can't tell if he's oblivious, ignorant, or both. Either way, he's dead wrong. If this comic really was so amazing like he seems to think, then why does its sloppily-written ending have tons of downvotes on e621? As of right now, it stands at an abysmal score of -137, with countless comments there expressing disappointment at how the characters were handled throughout the comic, and for a good reason, too. Needless to say, this comic got torn to shreds by Zootopia fans everywhere (as if this thread alone wasn't already evidence of that) and is in many ways even more infamous than the "I Will Survive" abortion comic that everyone loves to throw under the bus for some reason (even though it at least had the guts to take itself seriously, which is a lot more than can be said for any of Zaush's work).

And yet, despite all that, Zaush just casually blocks everybody and acts like his stupid little comic is perfect in every way and is "just like the movie" while he continues to live in his egotistical echo chamber, acting as if he's above everyone else. I'm tired of this attitude surrounding popular artists like Zaush where people like Jasonafex shamelessly praise them for hours on end simply because they're well-known, as if that somehow makes them immune to criticism. I'm tired of Zaush's shills trying to cram this insulting, lazily-written comic down our throats as if it's "good art" when in actuality, there are so many other Zootopia comics out there that blow Mystic Tantra out of the water in every aspect, yet don't get even a fraction of the attention.

But whatever, right? It's "just porn" after all, so I guess I shouldn't make a big deal out of it, even though the person who made it clearly does.
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Furrynomous 2018/04/29 10:09:03 No.1428438
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>>1428322

Care to give some examples? Come on man, I want deets! If there are comics out there better looking than this I want to see them.
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Furrynomous 2018/04/29 14:33:05 No.1428542
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>>1428322
I'm sure that jason and zaush were busy sucking dicks during the interview and I'm not gonna act like they have problems or are so easy to push off criticism but yes, it's a porn comic.

The amount of people who took personal offense to this comic are fucking ridiculous. I can critique it all day but to get legitimately angry over a porn comic is still absolutely retarded.

It doesn't affect canon
It didn't take itself seriously
It was free
It had decent art at least

Why do people act like zaush kicked their puppies? Honestly, if people are gonna be this pissy, I honestly do understand blocking people when all they want to do is cause trouble
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Furrynomous 2018/04/29 18:03:49 No.1428639
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>>1428542

White knight alert
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Furrynomous 2018/04/30 07:11:24 No.1428817
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>>1428542

Yeah man. He's really white knighting; so hard that he described how they were "sucking each other's dicks".

Just because someone wants to say, "hey, Zaush might be a smug prick who wrote a shit comic in some people's eyes, but at the end of the day, it doesn't actually ruin or change anything" doesn't mean they're trying to be a valiant hero for some furry artist.
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Furrynomous 2018/04/30 08:07:06 No.1428831
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>>1428817
Holy shit, a white knight of a white knight!! What's next???
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Furrynomous 2018/04/30 22:40:11 No.1429144
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>>1428438

You don't have to look very far. Frankly, people like iPoke, Yitexity, and TheWyvernsWeaver beat Zaush hands down in terms of writing, artistry, and character portrayal. It's honestly laughable that anyone would call Zaush a good writer, let alone the call Mystic Tantra the best Zootopia comic when there are so many better ones out there.

Edited at 2018/04/30 23:24:50
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Furrynomous 2018/04/30 23:32:11 No.1429163
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>>1428831
Oh no, someone didn't agree with your precious little opinion and trash talk a porn comic while still insulting the artist for having a bit of an ego and then someone pointed out how calling that white knighting makes no fucking sense

It's a defense that comes from retards and trolls, either way, unless a proper defense is presented, I consider you not worth anymore of my time

Also, aren't we supposed to stop using this board for discussion?
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Furrynomous 2018/05/01 03:17:56 No.1429234
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>>1429144
>artistry

This is baffling to me. It's fine to have different personal tastes in what makes a comic "good" or not and I get that zaush's writing isn't for everyone, but to say that the artists you provided beat zaush in terms of artistry is laughable.

You're a troll, right? This has to be a troll post. Nobody can be this willfully blind.
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Furrynomous 2018/05/02 00:49:12 No.1429674
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>>1429234

Yeah, I'm not sure what's gotten into people that they're still coming into this long-finished comic thread to post badly drawn fandom art.

Shippers, I guess.
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Furrynomous 2018/05/03 06:20:13 No.1430123
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>>1428322
You seriously had to bring this thread back to life?
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Furrynomous 2018/05/03 15:17:35 No.1430244
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>>1428322
no one cares
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Furrynomous 2018/05/31 22:35:32 No.1444893
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It seems like a lot of the pages here are downsized and slightly pixelated around the edges (especially in the speech bubbles). Is there anyone here who could upload the full comic from start to finish in full rez? That would be greatly appreciated.
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Furrynomous 2018/07/04 19:15:54 No.1461610
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>>1429674

I fail to see how the fanart in question is "badly drawn". It looks perfectly fine to me.

Edited at 2018/07/04 19:17:30
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Furrynomous 2018/07/04 19:26:28 No.1461611
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>"Is there anyone here who could upload the full comic from start to finish in full rez?"

I second this. The inconsistent image quality in this thread is really distracting. Is there anyone here who's willing to link a .zip of the entire comic on full resolution?
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Seth 2019/02/02 12:11:54 No.1546805
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So gay
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Furrynomous 2019/02/04 07:10:41 No.1547596
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>>1546805

Methinks someone didn't realize they replied to this thread using their real name and K-12 School email address.
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Furrynomous 2019/02/05 14:09:33 No.1548002
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>K-12 School email address

ELI5 on this, please?

Edited at 2019/02/05 14:10:09
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Furrynomous 2019/02/05 14:52:16 No.1548007
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>>1548002

This guy:
>>1546805

Linked the real name and school email of some kid in Indiana to this post.

Whether it's actually that kid and he's an idiot or somebody maliciously using their name/email and posting it to a gay furry imageboard is unknown, but regardless, the mods should remove it.
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Furrynomous 2019/11/30 16:57:51 No.1678378
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>>1461611
I found a .zip link on yiff.party: https://yiff.party/shared_data/37d592cef5a6c0014a26b53b9a45d6c04ff0a7ab/Mystic_Tantra_Complete.zip

Hope that helps.
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Furrynomous 2019/12/01 03:23:24 No.1678680
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>>1678378

Thanks for the link but are they hosted on a very slow server? This will take 2H51 to download... And i ckecked my connection, evrything works fine on my side.
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Furrynomous 2021/04/02 13:16:50 No.1924233
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Hey could someone ask Zaush for the .psd’s for the pages of this comic for me I can’t get through to him?

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