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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:46:44 No.1361773   
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This is Possession a comic by BadHTheBrad.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/badhthebrad/
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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:46:46 No.1361774
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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:46:48 No.1361775
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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:46:49 No.1361776
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BadHTheBrad "my co-worker who was in charge of doing page number 4, traced another artist work (believe me or not).
But i'm mostly here to apologise to everyone, i will take full responsibility for what happened.
of course my "ex co-worker" will not have accesse to my FA account anymore and he will no longer be involved in the comic creation process.
Because of this event, I will be working alone and the pages will have a much larger cooldown.
Again, I'm so sorry, i have redone the page for all those who are still following the comic.
One more time i'm truly sorry."

Edited at 2017/12/18 14:23:37
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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:47:10 No.1361777
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Character sheet.
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Adavi123 2017/12/15 22:47:29 No.1361778
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That is all for now.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/15 22:54:06 No.1361786
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thanks!
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Lolweremypages 2017/12/15 23:18:28 No.1361798
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This will be intresting and thx for showing this comic to us
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Adavi123 2017/12/15 23:38:03 No.1361805
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>>1361798

You're welcome! I'm always happy to give more attention to good comics.
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Flash 2017/12/16 04:20:46 No.1361870
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Well that thing certainly caters to the customs of a furry affine die hard Danny Phantom fan very well :3
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 10:48:43 No.1362013
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Looks good so far ;)
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 11:16:48 No.1362020
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I do have to say Id wish they decide if his name is Noah or Noan
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 11:39:25 No.1362025
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>>1361776
I see what you did there.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 13:27:30 No.1362044
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>>1362025

Oh my fucking God! Are you kidding me?
They just rotated the right arm a bit.


And I think the bottom panel of that page is yet another drawing by Takemoto...

And yup after searching, it's clearly a modified trace of this:

https://e621.net/post/show/1326610/2017-4_toes-5_fingers-abs-anthro-anthro_on_anthro-

Shame on you BadHTheBrad
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 13:27:31 No.1362045
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 13:51:41 No.1362052
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>>1362044
why don't you just go to his page and rant over there instead?
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 16:23:33 No.1362085
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>>1362052
Cuz then he'd have to show his face and bitch at a guy that draws when he probably can't?
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Possession Adavi123 2017/12/16 16:52:51 No.1362087
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 17:38:30 No.1362101
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>>1362085
Oh get fucked. This abortion of an argument isn't even worth refuting anymore.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 18:01:52 No.1362108
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>>1362101
I know. So is not worth it going on a crusade against a guy 'tracing' other drawings.

Does it really matter?

Is the other guy losing money?
Is this artist selling himself as some hot shit?
Is this artist profiting off of this?
Does it affect anyone's life in any shape or form?

(This is more directed at the crusader, if you aren't him, feel free to disregard my comment)

'Oh my fucking god, are you kidding me? Let me show you how much of a disgrace to humanity this artist is because he traced/referenced takebestboy work'

Copy is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 19:04:30 No.1362128
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>>1362108

Sit back, eat a xanax, relax, and enjoy the ghostrape in the making.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/16 23:26:28 No.1362206
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>>1362108
>Copy is the sincerest form of flattery.
pfft my ass.
guy is definitely not an artist and doesn't know how it feels like getting your hard work polished through years of training and failure get stolen just like that.and if he was, his art level is probably on par with cyberklaw's
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 04:20:07 No.1362291
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mmm that white pup has delicious manbewbs
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 05:18:50 No.1362303
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>>1362044
Ehhh... I wanted to refute you, but even though there are many spots that were completely altered (beyond those that don't match because I stupidly didn't rotate it properly), the ones that do match do so more perfectly than could be accounted for even by referencing. Good eye.
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MHS 2017/12/17 06:08:37 No.1362319
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>>1361773
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Yeah... "good". The English is pretty bad, and so is the dialogue. And though the story is somewhat unique, it is cringey as fuck. And if this ghost is supposed to be from 1,200 years ago, his clothing shouldn't look modern. Unless he changed it.

>>1362206
>>1362044

What do you expect from such a cringefest? Did you expect anything that resembled "quality"?

Edited at 2018/01/02 00:45:19
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 09:38:54 No.1362356
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>>1362108
Don't normalize this shit. Allowing kids to get a free pass at blatant traces is amazingly bad for the art community as a whole

I'm speaking as an artist that has been traced a couple of times in the past.
Surely you have a strong opinion on it because it also happened to you right? You're not just saying "lol, it's fine. Let him do it" because you haven't experienced it... Right?
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 09:55:33 No.1362366
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I will just put this here. You are free to do whatever it is with the first page.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 12:44:09 No.1362400
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this makes me puke
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 12:46:54 No.1362401
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Tracing art and referencing are two completely different things. Referencing is paying attention to another pic and using what another artist did to improve on the picture being done. Tracing is literally drawing the exact same picture over top of the original. What makes it worse is when “artists” post it claiming it’s their original work when it’s clearly not. Unless you’re tracing to practice your own art style, then by all means go ahead, but don’t praise practically stolen artwork because you think it’s harmless.
Artists bust their asses to get where they are and for someone to come along and trace their artwork, then post it claiming it’s their own original work is lazy and just horrible.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 14:46:44 No.1362417
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>>1362085

1- I actually can draw

2- I don't need to trace someone else's shit to do it
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 15:29:35 No.1362427
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>>1362108

INSPIRING yourself from other people's work is flattery.

Completely tracing their work and passing it as yours is not.

Tracing as a way to learn anatomy is acceptable. Tracing to experiment with styles is acceptable.

But you can't just publish someone else's work as yours.

Imagine if you will someone digging up old architectural plans by Frank Lloyd Wright, tracing them and them submitting them to clients as their own work. And filling their portfolio with similar forgeries.

Do you think that's ok?

So why is it more ok if it's an amateur comic?

It's like people these days think that integrity is overrated
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 17:09:35 No.1362466
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I just don't see the point of getting up in arms about something that harms nobody. If this were a commission, sure, but since this doesn't appear to be, I'm not sure why people care?

If you are getting paid and you trace, then yeah, shame on you, if not, it harms nobody.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 18:52:16 No.1362586
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>>1362466
It harms the community as a whole
If we're ok with tracings, that mean more tracings will be around. There will be less original art being made, and can enable people to get away with profiting from traced illustrations

Also as an artist that has been working for several thousands of hours for years to learn how to make my own stuff, it's really fucking annoying to have people gaining popularity by tracing stuff I've literally hurt myself learning how to make
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 18:55:11 No.1362604
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>>1362586
you don't talk for me, thank you, it doesn't harm me if he traces things.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 19:25:24 No.1362640
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>>1362604
...he didn't say it harmed you. He said it harmed "the community as a whole." It may surprise you to hear this, but you are not "the community as a whole."
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 19:58:53 No.1362687
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>>1362586

By that logic people shouldn't cover music, model their life after other people, or remake movies...
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Furrynomous 2017/12/17 20:04:22 No.1362721
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>>1362687

OK, see this is were tracing, being inspired by something and referencing is different.

Covering a song would be the visual art equivalent of referencing.

The musical equivalent of tracing would be getting on stage and lipsyncing to someone else's singing voice. Tracing is the visual art equivalent of being Milli Vanilli except worse because you don't ask permission.


I honestly don't get how you can't understand the difference and why it's important.

Edited at 2017/12/17 20:06:26
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Good comic tho Furrynomous 2017/12/17 21:36:46 No.1362811
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Simpsons did it first!!!!
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 07:24:43 No.1363007
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shut up
just
shut up you all
i cant believe how can you all make SUCH A drama over this
instead of complaining here
GO TO THE ARTIST PAGE AND COMPLAIN TO HIM
if you dare
thats all
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 07:32:12 No.1363010
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>>1363007

"If you dare"



Brad, is that you? :)
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 08:14:13 No.1363024
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>>1363010
dont know who brad is
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 08:38:37 No.1363030
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>>1363024
I know Brad.
Well, knew.
Shame what happened.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 08:56:45 No.1363035
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>>1362586

"Harms the Community as a whole"

Oh fuck off.
If it's a free comic .
Yes make fun of them for tracing
but this is just melodramatic.

ALSO
Does nobody see the IRONY of bitching about tracing as stealing on a board where we leak comics you're supposed to pay for.. for fucks sake takas work has been leaked here .goddamn.

Edited at 2017/12/18 09:00:45
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 09:24:01 No.1363039
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>>1363035
perfect point

>>1363030
i feel like i am missing some tragic event here....
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 14:09:11 No.1363158
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>>1363035

I know you're just trying to be inflammatory, but it's not "irony" at all.
You can call it "hypocrisy", irony has a different meaning to the one you have in mind.


I also don't know why you're so eager to defend this artist here.
Are you trying to somehow imply that calling me "melodramatic" you're invalidating my point in any way? Or that if the comic "is free" that it's completely invulnerable to criticism and can get away with tracing?

I don't see the logic with me presenting my arguments up there and you just going "fuck off, no". That's not how you participate in a discussion
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Adavi123 2017/12/18 14:19:39 No.1363162
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The artist made a new version of page 4 which I put up in the old one's place along with the apology on the page. I'll put the apology down here as well.

BadHTheBrad "my co-worker who was in charge of doing page number 4, traced another artist work (believe me or not).
But i'm mostly here to apologise to everyone, i will take full responsibility for what happened.
of course my "ex co-worker" will not have accesse to my FA account anymore and he will no longer be involved in the comic creation process.
Because of this event, I will be working alone and the pages will have a much larger cooldown.
Again, I'm so sorry, i have redone the page for all those who are still following the comic.
One more time i'm truly sorry."

Edited at 2017/12/18 14:24:33
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 14:45:16 No.1363169
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>>1363162
We'll prob never know if this co-worker is made up, but hey, acknowledged, fixed and apologized. Good on him in either case. Life goes on.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 16:37:38 No.1363200
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I'm guessing his "coworker" also did

>>1361773
>>1362366
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 17:51:34 No.1363211
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>>1363158
now you can leave us alone
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 18:48:29 No.1363232
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>>1363200
He's cooking, that's like the most stereotypical way of drawing a cooking character.

It's like saying someone copied a dialogue because they said "Helo, how are you doing today?"
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 23:28:57 No.1363478
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Furrynomous 2017/12/18 23:59:23 No.1363483
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He's obviously tracing, plain and simple
no need to dwell on this piece of garbage, no need to defend a thief
spit on it and move on
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 02:03:51 No.1363509
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>>1363158
I was being nice by saying melodramatic rather then ...'fucking retarded' for complaining about thievery on a image board were stolen pay per view art is shared lol.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 06:46:10 No.1363559
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>>1363483
LOL, "thief". Seriously, do you think every artist starts out by just producing great quality work at the beginning? People trace. It happens. It's not like they used the same characters, storyline, or even species in most cases. Sure, the poses are the same, but it's not "thievery" to use a similar pose and body shape.

Seriously, grow up children. Those claiming this is "thievery" obviously never drew anything worth a damn in their lives.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 07:51:36 No.1363574
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>>1363483
how about you just fuck off kid ?
you can spit on it all you want where not following you
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 09:30:59 No.1363643
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>>1363574
Careful there, he's on a self-righteous rush. You wouldn't want him to direct his fierce sanctimonious fury on you instead, would you?
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 13:41:55 No.1363717
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>>1363643
meeh i have seen kids like him before
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 20:14:16 No.1363801
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>>1363559
if you're going to trace someone's art, at the very least you should give credit. passing it off as your own is scummy and is only acceptable for literal children as they don't know any better.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 20:21:52 No.1363802
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Here's the description on their latest posting.

"my co-worker who was in charge of doing page number 4, traced another artist work (believe me or not).
But i'm mostly here to apologise to everyone, i will take full responsibility for what happened.
of course my "ex co-worker" will not have accesse to my FA account anymore and he will no longer be involved in the comic creation process.
Because of this event, I will be working alone and the pages will have a much larger cooldown.
Again, I'm so sorry, i have redone the page for all those who are still following the comic.
One more time i'm truly sorry."

Seems he wasn't the one at fault and his co-artist has been fired.
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Furrynomous 2017/12/19 23:35:21 No.1363893
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>>1363802
A "coworker" that was previously unmentioned and uncredited did it, and they won't be named? Suuuuure. Disabled comments on the apology page, too. Squeaky-clean.

But in all seriousness, fuck tracing. I can go see the other guy's art. I'm on FA and in this thread to see THIS GUY'S art. He has an interesting comic idea and his artstyle is kinda cute. One of the most satisfying things to see is a new artist tackle a large, extended project and watch as their art gets exponentially better. Having to draw and redraw the same characters in a comic builds your artists' chops, and it's amazing to witness an artist develop. Go to any webcomic, furry or not, and compare the first five pages to the most recent five pages.

Trace for practice. Trace for fun. But the work you put out there to call yours should be yours, and cheating yourself out of the valuable practice is a horrible thing to do to yourself.
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Sage of U18 chan 2017/12/23 17:05:09 No.1365351
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I am starting to think People who call Trace as dumb as fuck ass hats. They may have used poses as reference. But alot of the elements are not traced ...
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Keep going! Support everyone :) 2017/12/31 03:06:45 No.1368821
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Everyone starts somewhere, so keep going and don't do anything illegal! I want to see how this plays out!
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Furrynomous 2018/01/02 00:36:24 No.1369627
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>>1368821
it seems to be working for you!
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M/H/S/ 2018/01/02 00:50:10 No.1369635
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Interesting that y'all are bitching about this low quality trace comic when I brought up a point of discussion before that got buried beneath all the salty people:

>Yeah... "good". The English is pretty bad, and so is the dialogue. And though the story is somewhat unique, it is cringey as fuck. And if this ghost is supposed to be from 1,200 years ago, his clothing shouldn't look modern. Unless he changed it.

Edited at 2018/01/02 00:50:29
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Furrynonymous 2018/01/02 03:39:49 No.1369664
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Nobody cares about your "point", this is a furry porn comic so stop looking for a masterpiece. And from the looks of it, English isn't his first language
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Fuck the haters Furrynomous 2018/01/02 04:07:13 No.1369668
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So everyone came here to get their dicks wet but instead some people ruin it by complaining about something small and dumb. If you don't like it then leave, go somewhere else and let the people who like it enjoy the comic
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Furrynomous 2018/01/02 04:47:35 No.1369676
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You mean artists use references and nothing ever made is truly original!!?!?!??

Le *dramatic* gasp D:
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Furrynomous 2018/01/02 06:07:53 No.1369686
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>>1369676
there's a difference between using a reference for framework or helping to achieve a specific pose, and straight up stealing another artist's work to use as your own. tracing, when not solely for practice, is essentially plagiarism, and the original author of the traced work should always be given credit.
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Furrynomous 2018/01/02 17:52:58 No.1369967
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>>1369676
Dude. The guy behind the comic admitted shit was traced. And agreed that tracing is indefensible (and then claimed that it wasn't him who was to blame but some mysterious unnamed third party artist who snuck traced pictures into his comic).
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Furrynomous 2018/01/14 12:48:31 No.1376045
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That picture isn't mine it's just a cute face I like to use :(
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:3 Anonymous 2018/01/14 12:49:38 No.1376046
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That picture isn't mine it's just a cute face I like to use :(
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