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sequel to frostbite, which can be seen here: https://u18chan.com/board/u18chan/gc/topic/1451376

In order to prevent any form of confusion, the comic convergence will be posted in its own thread. But wildbites, will still be posted in its original thread.
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Convergence zidanes 2019/01/02 19:37:31 No.1534312
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>>1534311
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Furrynomous 2019/01/03 08:44:02 No.1534523
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oh boy
looks like things are about to get serious
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Furrynomous 2019/01/03 10:21:58 No.1534541
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Dream? Creepy cloaked guy? This is some Doctor Destiny vibe going on here
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Furrynomous 2019/01/03 11:23:40 No.1534554
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>that cover
Perfect. Godspeed, I hope he feels wildbite got memed enough for this to not be on his "doing it slowly" pile
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Furrynomous 2019/01/03 21:05:22 No.1534709
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Lol
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Furrynomous 2019/01/04 11:19:14 No.1534937
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>>1534312
>green eyes
>lion's tail
Gotta be related to wildfire... his brother?
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Furrynomous 2019/01/05 06:21:58 No.1535156
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>>1534937
Probably. he's supposed to be this lion:
>>1451412

Maybe they are related.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/13 12:21:21 No.1538574
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Furrynomous 2019/01/13 13:16:22 No.1538611
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>>1538574
So it's in like, real space and not a mindscape?
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Furrynomous 2019/01/21 19:58:08 No.1542097
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Furrynomous 2019/01/24 13:55:25 No.1543334
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>>1538574
>human trafficking.
>furry comic
WHAT ?¡
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Furrynomous 2019/01/24 15:57:16 No.1543380
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>>1543334
I've actually seena few furry comics where the "furries" call themselves "humans". it kind of makes sense. Calling themselves "furries" would be too hilarious to be taken seriously and calling themselves anthropomorfic also doesn't make much sense given the context.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/25 14:13:55 No.1543938
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>>1543334
Person trafficking or just trafficking doesn't have the same ring.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/25 17:29:54 No.1543965
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>>1543380
If you read the rest of the comic, you'd know there's both humans and furries in this particular setting. The bear's girlfriend was human
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Furrynomous 2019/01/26 03:56:44 No.1544160
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>>1543965
Human? Looks like a female polar bear.
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Furrynomous 2019/01/26 05:55:31 No.1544184
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Furrynomous 2019/02/11 18:03:23 No.1550840
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Furrynomous 2019/02/23 06:55:27 No.1555346
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Furrynomous 2019/03/30 15:54:34 No.1569900
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Furrynomous 2019/04/21 14:32:51 No.1579698
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Furrynomous 2019/05/04 20:26:44 No.1584966
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Furrynomous 2019/05/15 17:36:56 No.1589836
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Furrynomous 2019/05/15 17:39:07 No.1589837
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Time for the mind rape
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This comic Zackery259 2019/05/29 15:54:57 No.1595374
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Ware is the rest?
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Furrynomous 2019/05/31 03:54:18 No.1596430
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This comic is so awesome.
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Furrynomous 2019/06/01 06:28:27 No.1596781
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>>1595374
It's still being done by the artist. That was the most recent page.
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Furrynomous 2019/06/10 01:56:09 No.1600413
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anyone have the new pages
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Furrynomous 2019/06/10 06:28:24 No.1600526
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>>1600413
there are no new pages. The author is on a break or something
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Furrynomous 2019/06/10 09:40:31 No.1600556
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>>1600526
The PC got a hiccup and the data of the page got corrupted fo he had to retrace the whole page from q low quality retrieval and do the page... again.
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Furrynomous 2019/06/10 13:25:47 No.1600597
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Furrynomous 2019/06/10 17:55:44 No.1600677
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>>1600597
I hope we get some explicit content next pages.
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Furrynomous 2019/07/03 12:07:27 No.1609233
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Furrynomous 2019/07/09 17:18:31 No.1611761
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Furrynomous 2019/07/18 17:16:22 No.1617750
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Furrynomous 2019/07/20 17:13:09 No.1618832
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I think you miss one
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Furrynomous 2019/08/05 17:30:25 No.1626280
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Furrynomous 2019/08/08 18:16:23 No.1628748
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I'm so confused ..
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Furrynomous 2019/08/09 10:58:41 No.1629115
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Bad story telling will tend to do that
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Furrynomous 2019/08/09 23:17:08 No.1629419
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>>1629115
What sort of dyslexia or remedial English class makes you think this story is told badly?
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Furrynomous 2019/08/10 00:18:10 No.1629438
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>>1618832
this image is out of other and apparently some people can't read that the confusion
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Furrynomous 2019/08/10 00:32:15 No.1629440
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>>1629438

I don't think they meant that the story is being told badly, more that the story itself is bad. But stories focusing on trying to mesh multiple weird fetishes as the primary focus tend to be at least a little off the cuff.
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Furrynomous 2019/08/10 02:41:05 No.1629471
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I have tried not to read those page but now I addicted it. Is any new page haven't post yet ?
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Furrynomous 2019/08/19 10:32:06 No.1633560
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Any new post ? Thanks
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Furrynomous 2019/08/29 03:30:27 No.1638105
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This comic is so awesome.
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Furrynomous 2019/08/29 08:07:52 No.1638171
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>>1638105
Totally agree! <3
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Furrynomous 2019/09/13 22:05:40 No.1644536
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any updates?
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Furrynomous 2019/09/22 04:24:43 No.1647971
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>>1644536
He took a break to bang all week and after that his computer died so gonna have to wait.
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Furrynomous 2019/09/25 06:05:30 No.1649331
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>>1647971
Living the dream, that dude is. Anyone know what he looks like or anything about him? I'm so curious about a guy who can make a comic like this...
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Furrynomous 2019/09/25 06:29:03 No.1649333
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so now this website went from fap to trying to hurt any artist to evolve into gossip...
you guys worry me...
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Furrynomous 2019/09/25 09:04:31 No.1649355
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Be patient guys, sheesh... He's been through a lot lately so stop being so impatient.
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Furrynomous 2019/09/26 03:19:09 No.1649660
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>>1649355
Oh no! Hope he's ok!
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Furrynomous 2019/10/28 09:51:51 No.1663548
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new page from the amazing Rubberbuns
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Furrynomous 2019/12/01 11:06:25 No.1678760
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Page 18 from the awesome Rubberbuns
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Furrynomous 2019/12/01 11:07:15 No.1678761
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Page 19
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Furrynomous 2019/12/01 23:14:44 No.1678940
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LOVE the story, it's a piece of art I just feel like things are going a little too smoothly for the bad guys
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Furrynomous 2019/12/02 08:30:38 No.1679067
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>>1678940
I like when the bad guys win sometimes :D
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Furrynomous 2019/12/17 10:48:27 No.1685928
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Page 20 :)
Love this comic so much
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Furrynomous 2020/01/22 09:00:07 No.1703989
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Lmao
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Furrynomous 2020/01/30 09:13:27 No.1707078
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no respond from artist now ?
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Furrynomous 2020/01/30 11:20:51 No.1707097
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just be patient remember we just past new year so it could bee in vacation
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Furrynomous 2020/02/03 19:35:17 No.1709092
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And corona desease
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Furrynomous 2020/02/03 19:49:43 No.1709095
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Touché
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Furrynomous 2020/02/07 10:50:42 No.1710786
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"Two months later"
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Furrynomous 2020/02/16 09:25:33 No.1714261
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lmao too long bro
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Furrynomous 2020/02/16 09:25:39 No.1714262
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lmao too long bro
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Furrynomous 2020/02/18 23:30:08 No.1715361
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surprised no one posted this. its been out for about a week now
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Furrynomous 2020/02/24 10:03:27 No.1717127
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Where?
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Furrynomous 2020/02/25 09:10:42 No.1717570
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is that it ?
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Furrynomous 2020/02/29 02:15:12 No.1719010
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̀̉
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Furrynomous 2020/02/29 05:19:59 No.1719045
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>>1717127
Artist's FA page.
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Furrynomous 2020/03/23 07:12:10 No.1728033
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Could someone retrieve the new page?
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Furrynomous 2020/03/24 07:29:35 No.1728496
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Furrynomous 2020/04/12 06:32:56 No.1736631
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Can someone get the new page again? Thanks.
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Furrynomous 2020/04/12 06:54:10 No.1736633
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Furrynomous 2020/05/20 09:51:22 No.1756742
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That's all of it ?
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Furrynomous 2020/05/21 11:55:05 No.1757284
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Furrynomous 2020/05/22 01:59:34 No.1757512
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I... I'm guessing that the hyena is already dead.
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Furrynomous 2020/05/23 22:48:07 No.1758103
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>>1757512
If that is true I will laugh
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Furrynomous 2020/05/23 23:41:56 No.1758112
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That's a cute hyena
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Furrynomous 2020/05/23 23:46:39 No.1758117
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>>1758112

Too bad he's probably already dead
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Furrynomous 2020/05/24 04:35:01 No.1758181
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Yeaaaaaaaaaah... it's says right here.
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Furrynomous 2020/06/04 08:13:54 No.1763272
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Welp..to be continued...
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Furrynomous 2020/06/04 10:48:53 No.1763301
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Awww yeah, time for the brother to get enslaved and some forced incest to happen!
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Furrynomous 2020/06/04 11:28:51 No.1763313
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>>1763301
Ah, another person with refined tastes.
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Furrynomous 2020/06/20 06:15:59 No.1770221
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Ok so we have to request page in order not to let this threat go off ?
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Furrynomous 2020/06/20 08:11:26 No.1770255
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>>1770221
Artist has art block, give him time for him to get over it.
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Furrynomous 2020/06/20 09:48:46 No.1770271
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>>1770255

To be fair, I wonder if this is more of a story block, because...there's no plot/story happening here.
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Furrynomous 2020/06/20 10:28:38 No.1770279
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>>1770271
Probably both.
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 18:36:16 No.1852937
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 18:36:19 No.1852938
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>>1852937
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 18:42:35 No.1852941
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 18:42:37 No.1852942
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>>1852941
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 18:42:41 No.1852943
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>>1852941
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 21:44:14 No.1853036
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So can anyone tell me why mr.burns is doing this I read the first comic but still dont understand why he doing all this aka kidnapping hero Turing them into slave and do hero work is he trying to tale over the world I'm hella confused
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 22:07:01 No.1853049
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i saw in an fa comment the artist considers mr buns lawful neutral and that it's means to an end. kidnapping people and brainwashing them into rubber drones falls quite outside that
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Furrynomous 2020/11/23 23:34:41 No.1853092
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A simple question about this story is: What is the plot?

You have someone kidnapping people for their own amusement. That's not a neautral objective, that outright evil. The problem is that the writer/artist wants his fetish, regardless of how it works with his characters, the world he's created, and the narrative being told. So you're going to have more and more strange reasoning trying to be woven into the story to make this fetish seem reasonable, and thus it's going to make the story seem more and more weird and out of focus.

Think about it this way: who is the major antagonist of this story? And what are their goals? And then ask yourself, how does this work with the two protagonist we've been introduced to?

Once you've answered these questions, you're then left with the fact that none of this works and it just seems...very contrived honestly.
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Furrynomous 2020/11/24 00:48:52 No.1853117
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I thought he didnt brainwash the hero he capture that what I saw in the last chapter anyways
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Furrynomous 2020/11/24 01:42:50 No.1853137
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>>1853117
what. he brainwashed wildfire before the frostbite comic and is brainwashing frostbite during this comic
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Furrynomous 2020/11/24 12:09:32 No.1853416
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>>1853049

Yeah, he's a fucking idiot that doesn't actually understand what "neutral" or "lawful neutral" mean. Which sucks because that means he clearly sees his monstrously evil bear as the protagonist, so he won't suffer the painful death he deserves and most likely the good guys won't get free.
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Furrynomous 2020/12/06 14:49:56 No.1860123
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>>1853416
Who fucking cares?
its porn fap or go away
besides
you dont need to be a good guy to be the protagonist of the story.
took zim from invadir zim as an example HES A VILLAIN yet hes the protagonist.
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Furrynomous 2020/12/06 17:52:00 No.1860205
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>>1853092
Answer is...
Capture all (hunky) heroes fron their old lives, from their secually frustrated and generally hectic hero life, into a more worry free, beneficial and rehabilited (drone) life. Anyone who gets in his way is properly dealt with.
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Furrynomous 2020/12/06 18:45:12 No.1860238
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Furrynomous 2020/12/06 19:02:47 No.1860243
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>>1860123
villain protagonists are totally fine, but the problem is that here the author doesn't realize that he's a villain. the author thinks he's not evil either because he supposedly does both evil and good things, or is doing evil for a theoretically good reason. i'd be fine with it if the author acknowledged that mr buns is evil, but the author seems to think that kidnapping people and brainwashing them into rubber drones is a good thing

Edited at 2020/12/06 19:07:57
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Furrynomous 2020/12/08 13:21:56 No.1861347
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>>1860243
youre looking too much into fetishes.....
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Furrynomous 2020/12/08 14:15:14 No.1861375
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>>1861347

It's because the fetish tried to justify itself. When something is meant to be a fetish, that's fine, but when you try and make it seem like it's not a kink, then you invite the auidence to try and make sense of what their seeing...which can be a problem for a writer/artist who doesn't have anything more than the fetish to justify themselves.
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Furrynomous 2021/08/19 19:38:53 No.1996817
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I wait for the next page

Edited at 2021/08/19 19:40:08
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Furrynomous 2021/08/19 20:29:25 No.1996826
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Yeah this kind of "plot" ain't my thing. but the arts nice i guess.
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Furrynomous 2022/01/11 19:25:02 No.2066230
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I feel like the author wants to draw a standard hero story rather than a porn comic .
But that's ok, every one of his rubber ideas is sexy .

I wonder if the author is not interested in anal sex, I have never seen anything related to anal sex in his work.
I really want to see some scene about playing with forsty's anus besides ejaculation control LOL .
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Furrynomous 2022/01/11 21:15:15 No.2066268
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>>2066230
I'd rather have the author try something new and sensible, as apposed to the author going ape shit crazy and fucking killing and beating his characters and ripping limbs apart like in Kyolo y Bongo
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Furrynomous 2022/01/11 21:26:45 No.2066269
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>>2066268
Oh , he posted page 47 on patreon today . It seems that Buns will do something sexy to Frosty again , just like page 12~23 !
I'm so deeply looking forward to frostbite's thorough surrender to Buns .
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Kronologia 2022/03/23 17:47:06 No.2098788
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hey were are the rest of the pages?
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Furrynomous 2022/03/23 17:48:59 No.2098790
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>>2098788
on his FA PAGE...
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Furrynomous 2022/03/23 19:12:30 No.2098810
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>>2098788
And on e621.
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Furrynomous 2022/03/24 04:35:35 No.2099065
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>>2066230
You're right, I think he said on his twitter that he wasn't interested in it at all, and knew it was a bit of a dealbreaker for a lot of men to be in a relationship like that.

I was with a guy for like 4 months who was like that, he was pretty sexual overall but just didn't like anal, top or bottom. If I had bondage/rubber scenarios like in this guy's comics tho, I might not need it.
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Furrynomous 2022/03/24 23:20:20 No.2099395
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>>2099065
Yup . But it's clear that Wildfire is bottom in the newest WILDBITE .
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Furrynomous 2022/03/25 20:02:08 No.2099724
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>>2098788
Actually there's some more pages on Patreon than what's posted on e621 and FA.

I'd like to upload what's in KP, because it warrants discussion.

The latest pages are so morally and emotionally ambiguous it's hard to discern what's madness from what's fetish inside the artist's head.
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Is this post dead? Furrynomous 2022/04/18 23:12:37 No.2111600
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>>2098788
Actually there's some more pages on Patreon than what's posted on e621 and FA.

I'd like to upload what's in KP, because it warrants discussion.

The latest pages are so morally and emotionally ambiguous it's hard to discern what's madness from what's fetish inside the artist's head.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/18 23:19:52 No.2111604
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Furrynomous 2022/04/19 17:27:16 No.2112077
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 11:34:03 No.2112309
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 11:50:19 No.2112313
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 12:03:07 No.2112324
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 12:05:09 No.2112325
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 12:08:04 No.2112326
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 12:09:34 No.2112327
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/20 12:10:26 No.2112328
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Furrynomous 2022/04/20 13:13:47 No.2112350
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I get that sense too. A quick glance at e621, and the creator has 171 posts at the time of this writing. Only 10 or so of them even have a visible penis. Every other explicit image involves dry humping, scentplay, bulges, handsfree orgasm, licking. Only one image ever has anal sex. Similar story on FA, his fave list has hundreds of pictures of muscly guys bound, beaten, milked, or grinding in rubber but only 2 or 3 with actual sex. I guess the author has certain textbook fetishes that get integrated into art but is not overly interested in the more normal mechanics of sex. And he would probably happier drawing a softcore gay fetish comic in a similar vain to old Wonder Woman Comic Books than trying to make his comic as lewd as it currently is.
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/21 14:04:14 No.2112806
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These are the three misplaced comic pages
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Convergence Furrynomous 2022/04/21 14:04:19 No.2112807
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Furrynomous 2022/04/21 18:46:40 No.2112884
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Furrynomous 2022/04/21 18:52:29 No.2112887
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I agree with this statement, given the content of the most recent page
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Furrynomous 2022/04/21 20:19:19 No.2112911
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Yeah. Exactly what I meant.

I drew the line on the ground using a red string but the wind blew it away.

I no longer understand what the author wants us to think. I guess we'll see. Or not. Someone has to bring us an update first.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 04:25:50 No.2113035
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Judging by some of the comments of theirs on furAffinity,this comic is a wankfest to their idea that practically everyone is evil and that there are no truly good people in the world.it's just a matter of who is more evil,and what side are you aligning with.they say it in a lighthearted manner but it's a pretty nihilistic thought process.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 06:41:20 No.2113064
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>Author writes a story and characters to a particular theme and setting, hence author MUST hold the same views IRL

Will brainlets ever stop with this absolute garbage heap of a shit take
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 06:49:14 No.2113066
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>>2113064

Yeah you definitely didn't read them.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 11:22:47 No.2113201
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I kinda dig where this story is going. Hope it doesn't finish like one of those "bad ending" visual porn games where they all just ultimately succumb.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 11:49:54 No.2113205
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If nothing else,I just want frost and wild to escape eventually.leave all that manipulative mess behind.

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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 21:03:59 No.2113413
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“I want to make buns as grey and ambigous as possible”
Is what the author of this comic said on FA.
Can someone explain this statement.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/22 21:20:18 No.2113414
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>>2113413

The author has the idea of trying to write a villain character, but give them justification, or maybe in this case, a sense of righteousness to what he's doing.

On paper, that works well enough, but when you take a step back and then realize what he's done with the character in question, you realize that the author has very little clue about what he's done.

To put it very simply, he's (the author) trying to write a story where everyone has a shade a gray to them, and thus will do bad things, but that doesn't work here, because he's not shown what exactly the line is for what it means to be a good person/a hero. Think about it for a minute, the polar bear character has had his life ruined twice over now by forces outside of his control, all the while trying to maintain the diginity of being someone who wants to be a hero, however, those forces he's trying to stand against him keep 'winning'.

He was possibly raped and brutalized while attempting to rescue his at the time girlfriend, who then left him. This is something that doesn't make him redefine himself, instead he doubled down to try and become a more focused hero. Doing his 'job' became his way of coping. And then he was captured and basically brainwashed by a meglomaniac who seems to want to believe his own propoganda. This has now put the Polar bear in an odd position, because he once again has his freedom and agency taken from him by others. All the while being forced to do things, or rather act in a manner that is very clearly damaging his psyche.

I think the author forgot something while making this story, and that is:
If you do something to your protagonist, they have to be able to react in a way that will either further their development/goals/personal agency, or they have to redine what said things are in order to fully flesh out exactly what the point of the character.

In this story that's basically impossible because the protagonist is not allowed to act of his own accord, he's constantly being pulled by others to act in a manner in which they desire, so you're left with a hollow story about individuals who simply act in a way that doesn't develop their personal goals. Instead, they act like puppets, quite literally, to someone else's agenda. And thus the author has made a very one dimensional story that doesn't have any real substance to it.

There's character drama, but it is being manufactured, because there's no actual plot happening.

Also, and another important thing.

In order to have a gray morality story, you have to be willing to show where the line is for each character, and where they will and won't cross it. With this story, the brown bear is clearly just a villain who likes to self-grandise. There is nothing good about him, given that he basically runs a slavery operation, forcing others to do his will, and is willing to commit henious actions to get what he wants. Meanwhile, the two heroes can't do anything about it, and have very little say in what happens going forward. Their personal morals don't even factor into what's happening, thus they can't really be said to have moral alignment to make them gray, since all of this is out of their hands.

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Furrynomous 2022/04/23 17:40:50 No.2113757
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You've got the actions of the story virtually 100% right, but I think you missed out on another possible plan of the author. Perhaps he is trying to show the way in which, someone who suffers from one groups actions can become unwittingly susceptible to others.

I think the villain IS ultimately a bad person who loves his control and abuse and domination of others, BUT wants to spin it as "Everybody is either power hungry or submissive, I am simply being honest about it". The villain sees himself as saving heroes from a pretend freedom, which in a twisted way is true, and why he can even convince others to believe it. What he is really doing is pointing out and trying to convince heroes that the hero league takes substantial freedom from heroes, and claim himself to actually be a liberator, BUT only to hide how he isn't so much taking their social freedoms, but their deep, conscious freedom. The hero league might take the hero's right to choose their action, and the villain uses that as a weapon, while hiding how he will literally remove the ability of a hero to choose at all when he has wiped their minds of any option other than "obey master".

In short, the author is adding "false gray", giving the villain a seeming justification on a surface level, but ultimately showing the villain to be the "worse" person when choosing between himself, the league, and individual heroes. Perhaps not, in which case you are right and this is sloppy morality juggling. If so, then the author is doing very well, since he has convinced people that these morals and actions are sincere for now, which is a hard thing to balance well. Ultimately the future will show if he was intentionally quite clever or just being lazy with a "we aren't so different, you and I" villain.

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Furrynomous 2022/04/27 14:19:48 No.2115679
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A commenter on FA made the statement on page 27 about a year ago, I am curious about the merit of the statement given everything revealed so far.

“ I stand by my point. Buns doesn't need super powers to be invincible. He's got obscene amounts of money, those rubber henchmen who seem to be everywhere, powerful government figures in his pocket, and he can apparently mind control ANYONE with his rubber symbiote things (albeit with some persuasion). Add to that the fact that he hasn't actually suffered a real defeat or setback yet while the heroes are basically his playthings, and he feels pretty invincible. Unless capturing the Shepherd manages to backfire SPECTACULARLY on him, like say the Shepherd manages to escape and now knows who has his brother or seeing his brother in trouble causes Wildfire to break free of Buns' control (if I guessed right please don't change things just to spite me) then he's effectively won, since I doubt Frostbite's gonna withstand being "broken" and there's nobody else who's narratively satisfying (as in: someone who has an established and clear personal connection to the conflict so that we the reader can root for them not only because we want Buns to lose, but because we can be invested in the character) to start unraveling his plans. The Shepherd already fulfilled this role rather well, but taking him out before he can contribute to the narrative in any meaningful way and introducing ANOTHER character to take down Buns at this point would feel unsatisfying and basically renders the entire character of the Shepherd pointless. There's only so much non-stop misery and failure for the good guys I can take before apathy sets in.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that what happens next with the Shepherd is going to be very important for your readers. The last page actually had me excited to see what would happen next and you basically immediately undercut it with this page and the reveal that Buns had this all planned out. I'll agree that your logic for why Buns had a plan makes sense, but you have to maintain a balancing act between logic and emotion. You're reaching the point where Buns feels like he'll never lose and that there's no point in even caring anymore, and that's dangerous. Reader apathy is a death sentence for a story.

(And before someone says that this is just a furry porn comic and I shouldn't take it so seriously, it's clear to me from reading the first part that a lot of care and effort is going into this to make it more than just smut. There are plenty of porn comics on this site that don't even bother with things like backstory, character motivations, and conflict like this one has. It would be disrespectful of me not to treat this story with the same level seriousness I'd treat any other form of storytelling.) “
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Furrynomous 2022/04/29 10:56:09 No.2116721
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Can someone explain what going on in this picture?
Because Buns told Ikiryo that he doesn’t use (Conventional) brainwashing on heroes. But this Image suggests otherwise.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/29 18:57:59 No.2116936
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Love that last part about NSFW comics being mocked for trying to have story and lore being unfair.

I totally agree, most short NSFW comics are "one and done" for me, a quick enjoyment and then very dull. However, an NSFW with context and stakes and story has me coming back time and time again. Sadly it can also be easily fucked up or made silly when the artist/author rushes or gets lazy or careless and ruin the comic. I don't really like Meesh' eternal "frat-bro-bro-bro" running series, it is such a generic setting, but at least he can keep the petty drama and lore consistent.
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Furrynomous 2022/04/29 20:20:16 No.2116971
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>>2113205

would be near impossible considered how Buns elaborately fucked up everyone he turned into his playthings, like on one hand, they sounded like they gave in out of free will while on the other hand, they went through some psychological adjustments according to how much pleasure and brainwashing they just experienced while tampering with their memories to think that they had it worse before. A fabricated hope

From how I see it, it's a win for fetish and a loss for a chance to be free.

>>2116721

He lied.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 04:05:58 No.2118830
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 04:16:01 No.2118831
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These are the other promo images for the patreon comics that the author published on twitter
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 04:23:03 No.2118835
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Some on fur affinity made this statement on comic page 53

“I am not sure how kidnapping and brainwashing people with latex symbiotes to abstract their identities to numerical values and make them sex slaves has to do with tearing down a corrupt superhero society that objectifies and abuses superheroes. Especially since what he is doing is kind of the same thing but worst. Also, I wonder what Wildfire and his brother's real names are.”

The authors response was: “**sigh**”
Followed by: “ Viewer discretion is advised”

I don’t think that response adequately answers the criticism.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 09:59:48 No.2118918
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Agreed.plus the author has this weird issue about people saying their characters are brainwashed.they are manipulatively\conditionally brainwashed but because there was no hypno involved,the author swears up and down that there's nothing wrong with his ( obviously messed up) slave\drones,and they all CHOSE that life without any outside interference.I'd don't think that the artist realizes that just because you didn't Hypnotize them,you can't not call what you did to them brainwashing.It's not like it really bothers me but it's just weird how they are about people questioning it.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 13:06:28 No.2119129
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His explanation is that they weren't hypnotized or brainwashed, he familiarized himself with his desires and needs, and thus tricking him into changing his cause into his own cause.

and that was from page 40 panel 9
this may be dumb but, what does that mean?, it still sounds like brainwashing too me.
does the author not know what brainwashing is? I mean it's not just controlling someone's brain with like tech or stuff. someone can be brainwash with words too.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 13:09:10 No.2119130
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Exactly! There are many ways to brainwash someone.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 13:23:29 No.2119148
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that kind of explanation is kinda like jigsaw

saying that he doesn't kill the victim but the traps do.

like, ya just brainwash them but in a different method, it's still brainwash.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 13:45:10 No.2119163
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It's like he tries to downplay everything buns does just to make the league seem worse.I mean,they are sneaky crazy bastards but,just because buns is "open" about his goals doesn't mean he's any less insane.he can call him morally grey as much as he wants.buns is just as evil as the League and they both should be taken down so holt and josh can finally be free of all that bullshit.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 14:06:29 No.2119174
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So, semantically Brainwashing is defined as Coercive Persuasion. In which a systemic or forceful effort is made to force a person to change their thoughts or actions in a such a way that it aligns with the brainwasher's desired doctrine, beliefs, or commands.

So with Wildfire, Master Buns collected information on him and had him captured him with a latex drone. The Drone, which has a separate conscious from Wildfire and was created to be loyal to Buns, began to gradually override Wildfire's thoughts with its own until Wildfire could not tell the difference between his own thoughts and the Drone's. All the while maintaining the idea that he is a hero and that he is doing the right thing. That right thing just now happens to be obeying Buns.

So technically, it is not brainwashing because these are mostly the actions of the Symbiote melding its mind with Wildfire and its not Hypnosis because Wildfire is not in a trance of some kind and has shown to be at least mostly aware of his actions and everything happening around him. It is still mind control though, no way around it. Closer to possession or a corruptive virus but it is still forcibly controlling and changing the actions and natural thought process that Wildfire makes to an extent that deviates way off from what he would probably do if he had not been exposed to it. All while maintaining some iota of Wildfire's personality and agency.

That goes double for Frostbite. Not to mention some of the Symbiotes do not even integrate themselves into their host's psyche, that big orca drone has a rat inside of him who is barely conscious anymore and acts as a "pathetic excuse for a battery".

TL;DR: Buns may not be using Brainwashing specifically, but he is using other forms of mind control which is just as morally dubious as brainwashing.

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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 14:14:01 No.2119179
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>>2119174
Also on that same page, it implies that Buns has done brainwashing before.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 15:06:12 No.2119238
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I have a question.

What exactly is Buns point with this entire story?

Like, what is he trying to get at? That what he's doing is better than a corrupt organization? Okay, how? And how is he going to spin that to the public, should the league be put out of its misery? Like, no matter how he tries to explain what he's doing, he's essentially making new age slaves, that are under his control. I can't imagine any government being okay with that. Nor allowing one man to have complete say on what happens with his...I guess livestock? Because it's not like most of the drones have any really agency outside what he wants. If they did, wouldn't he have freed Frostbite and Wildfire to go and do whatever they like, while just keeping them on call? Which, in itself would be pointless to this entire story, since that's what they do anyway.

Also, I'm kinda confused by something. Where are all the villains in this story? You know, the Jokers, the Harley Quinns, the Magnetos, the Lex Luthors? Because for all intents and purposes, it doesn't seem like villains are all that much of a problem in the city. No building have been blown up, there's been no big kidnappings, and there hasn't been a Riddler style threat against the city. For all intents and purposes, I'm still wondering why superheroes are even needed, when nothing has really happened that makes it seem like they are useful.

Another thing that's been on my mind, doesn't the Superhero League keep tabs on its members? So if Wildfire and Frostbite go missing, shouldn't that mean that they send someone out to find out why? And I don't mean a regular scrub, I mean a Black Widow, someone who can infiltrate Bun's organization and get all the info they need before reporting in? It feels like the author/artist isn't really challenging their characters, so we're just watching events happen without any sort of plot happening, because think about it.

What's really happened in this story?

We started with a fight between Wildfire after he became a drone, Frostbite lost and then got captured and...then nothing. Frostbite learning about what Buns wants isn't really interesting, because it's not moving the story along. Literally. It feels like everything has just stopped so that Buns can monologue, all the while Frostbite has an existential crisis, the likes of which...isn't really that interesting because he can't do anything about it. Like, no one here has any agency to make decisions, and sure, you can say that Frostbite's declaration to Wildfire is something, but is that even Frostbite's own decision anymore? That's kinda the unspoken issue with all this; is he even capable of making decisions anymore? Or is he being goaded into saying whatever by the symbiote in his head for Bun's benefit?

After all, would the angry, frustrated, and mentally cold polar bear even say the things he's saying of his own volition?

And, even if you say yes to all that, then what happen are we, the readers, supposed to be looking forward to seeing next? Frostbite and Wildfire will get into a fight with the Shepherd, or whoever, and...then what? They can't lose, because the story will say that they won't. They won't die, because they are the protagonist and deuteragonist. And Buns won't be ousted from power because the author won't let that happen on principal since he's in love with his made up mouthpiece.

So...what are the stakes here?

A final point here is this, why do all this? Why have a supervillian, because that's what Buns is, tell others about his plans? Especially if their consent isn't needed for his agenda? If feels like the author/artist could have cut Bun's out of the having his narration, and just put Wildfire and Frostbite into different situations, all the while keeping control and watch over them from the shadows. A puppet master who never gets seen, but is always in control because he has symbiotes in them. That would have made it easier for Buns to take down the Superhero league. It really just seems like Buns is here just to gloat about how smart/awesome he is...without really doing anything.

It's not like Buns has personally fought and defeated anyone, he just used a parasite to win his battles. I mean think about it, if someone can remove the symbiote, then what is his backup plan? Throw the other drones at said individual? I think Frostbite could easily handle everyone in that building, considering he only lost to Wildfire...because.

Also he also just sits back and gloats about how smart he is, without really showing it. I mean, if he's so confident, why not go after the Superhero League already? Also, who is this league and how many of them are there? Because, all things considered, it seems like Frostbite and Wildfire are kinda low on the superhero totem pole. Because again, they can go missing for a while, and no one comes around to check on them? Also, the city they are in has a fight between the two that literally lights up a part of it from Wildfire's attack...and no one cares? The police weren't alerted? SWAT wasn't brought in? Hell, a passerbyer walking their dog didn't run by and wonder what the hell happened? Their fight was in an open space!
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 16:17:12 No.2119271
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that's true, this whole story is like a one big "I"M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU!!!" kinda thing. Rubberbuns is basically untouchable, he has someone who can go into astral form and spy on the league to get intel (page 42-45). He apparently has the mayor and, assuming, the police in his hands, he got two heroes in his team, and all while planning safely in a facility that nobody knows, and what does the league has?
nothing, not one bit of intel on who he is or what he is planning. They arrested shepherd because they thought he was a mole, and all while losing heroes. Rubberbuns can keep tabs on all of them and has files and police records on criminals.
I'd say he has no flaws but, I feel like that would be an understatement.

And yeah, why are there heroes if there is no villains, MHA is kinda niche, but atleast it had interesting villains, hell I would even say that the villains are better than him, they're more interesting than this character.
The League is on the losing side, and that's putting it lightly, and I think they were meant to be this weak and powerless against him, to make Rubberbuns look much more powerful, if only the auther could just flesh theheroes out more, you know make them more smarter or luckier, because what's so entertaining about seeing a villain babble on about they're plan and see it unfold in real time.

The author should atleast make the heroes much more than just things to capture, make them smarter, outsmart him atleast, make them look like actual foes that can't be defeated easily.

at least make Rubberbuns lose sometimes, have him miscalculate, make his pride be his weakness, make him arrogant or boastful, atleast make his plan don't go to plan. But the author just made him this perfect being that never loses or miscalculate, every plan he makes never fails, he wants something he takes it and nobody seems to care.

And what is the point of this story?!, just see his character win over and over again?

The story isn't interesting, there's no stakes, no danger, or even conflict.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 16:44:34 No.2119285
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>>2119271
Not reading this thing because mind control is not my kink, but isn't this an issue with mind control comics in general? The character, who's usually the kind of gloating villain that's being described, always wins because the thinly-veiled r*pe-by-another-name scenario wouldn't play out otherwise. If that's not your thing, there is no point in following along. Of course, though, trying to make a "proper" story out of a scenario that already precludes any kind of interesting dramatic development is just as pointless.

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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 18:09:06 No.2119319
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So I re-read everything and I think I can explain.

So, Frostbite was this Superhero prodigy, who was dating that dog girl Freya.

The League did not like that even though she had super powers too and arranged for her to be kidnapped by the Drug Dealers to bait out Frostbite, where they proceeded to torture him for 4 days.

Frostbite was traumatized and everyone knew it and did not want to be the one to deal with him. Everyone except Wildfire, who is gay and in love with Frostbite. Frostbite tried coping with his trauma by throwing himself in his work.

Wildfire wanted Frostbite to be happy so he tried to sabotage his final exam in Super School so that he could not be a hero and Freya would swoop in and pick-up the pieces.

Frostbite manages to pass the exam and in doing so nearly kills Wildfire.

At some point later Wildfire is captured by Master Buns. Master Buns has several other Meta-Furries in a Drone Army which he wants to use as Superheroes for some reason.

He also has the League, the police, the criminal underworld, and the government in his pocket.

When Wildfire went missing the league sent tried a lot of things to find him, sending search parties and trying to reach him using Psychic Superheroes like Wildfire's Brother Night Shepherd.

Buns hid Wildfire by using his symbiote to prevent him from sleeping and leaving his secret compound.

He arranged to have Wildfire (01) try to get Frostbite to join Buns Drone Army. Frostbite refused. They fought, Wildfire won and forcibly injected Frostbite with the symbiote to save his life.

Somehow, Buns figured out the League's conspiracy with Freya and managed to capture and enslave all the criminals involved.

He then shares this information with Frostbite after he recovers from his injuries and acclimates to his drone (02).

Meanwhile, the League found out that Wildfire is alive and captured Frostbite. Since they presumably do not know what the symbiotes are capable of. They assumed that Night Shepherd was lying when he said he could not find Wildfire in his dreams and subsequently arrested him.

It is later revealed that Buns has some how manipulated the evidence to make it seem as though Night Shepherd was directly involved, somehow.

Frostbite has now fully recovered but is depressed because he feels betrayed by the League and his friends and does not want to do anything. Buns however does not like that. He's trying to build an Super Hero army and is doing that by kidnapping and injecting symbiotes into presumably Criminals and other Meta-Furries.

One of the Otter drones takes Frostbite to Wildfire for the Drama.

TL;DR: The League orchestrated Josh and Freya's kidnapping and torture. Buns wants a Super Drone Army because he thinks the League is evil for doing the kidnapping and other shady stuff(I Guess?). He does so by staying Anonymous and Capturing Criminals. But he for some reason he recently captured to incredibly high profile Superheroes. We still do not now why Buns is villain, what other thing the League has done if at all, or why Buns wants to take down the league with by brainwashing people into sex slaves.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 18:18:32 No.2119321
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>>2119319
Also, I think the story has been suffering with pacing and purpose. Apparently the first chapter was written 4-5 years ago as a one-off mini-comic for Hypno Bear Week. Then the second chapter (Frostbite) came out and it was fine. Then this chapter came out and that when things got weird. Rubberbuns kept going on hiatus and updating the comic randomly. He also spent like half of the chapter on that kind-of sex scene with "polishing".

So yeah I think this comic is suffering a bit from the fact that it is not sure if it wants to be a pr0n comic or an actual superhero comic, in addition to Rubberbuns changing his mind about stuff between hiatuses and people forgetting about certain plot points and characters.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 18:20:49 No.2119322
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I appreciate the re-cap summary but that still doesn't really explain buns as a character.the author seems really confused on what he wants buns to be.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 19:04:17 No.2119328
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I think that buns whole goal is to be the only villain in power.he's just removing every possible threat to himself.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 19:18:59 No.2119336
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>>2119319

When you put t like that he almost sounds like a Mary Sue
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 19:23:53 No.2119337
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>>2119319

Thank you for the recap, but I have more questions.

1. So...Buns has all of the political capital in his backpocket, and evidence of what the League did...but doesn't go public with it...why? In context of this story, superheroes are more like freelance mercenaries, so a public scandal should completely ruin them, since all they have is public trust, and I assume government money to fund them. Of which the latter would completely dry up without the former, since no political figure would want to be attatched to such an organization.

2. Why did the league set up for Frostbite to be captured? Once again, within the boundaries of the league itself, prodigeys should be a dime for a dozen, since everyone comes from a myrid of backgrounds, thus have capabilities which would be useful to their goals, which should be protecting the public. Hurting him would hurt them, since it should make it clear to all supers that they are vulnerable, not a good thing for a high stress job.

3. Who set up the plot to have Frostbite captured in the beginning, and who knew about it?

4. Also, if Buns has some pull or knowledge within the league, did he know about what was going to happen beforehand? And did he have anything to do with this?

5. Also, Wildfire was gay for Frostbite when? Nothing about their relationship seemed to suggest that the lion cared about the polar bear, even when he and the other fought, it seemed like a standard rivaly, but now it is suggested that he was in love with the other? Meaning...he willing went along with sabatoging his love intrest before he got captured, went along with an obvious maniac's plans to cause his love interest physical and mental harm, and did nothing to aid the other as he went through a very obvious traumatic experience, i.e. being captured AGAIN by someone and used against his will.

6. Also, once again, if Buns has the criminals in his pocket, um...why isn't he exposing any of them? Also, who hired them? And who do they work for? Because I doubt Freya just let some regular smuchks take her down, even as a low grade superhero she should have been able to handle some common thugs.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 19:35:28 No.2119340
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Yeah that whole kidnapping thing still feels off,besides the League thing I mean.I wouldn't be surprised if buns was involved in that too.setting things up in a way for things to work out in his favor.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 21:41:33 No.2119371
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>>2119337
We know who in the League had him captured. It was the Rhinoceros Superhero who apparently has telekinesis. We do not know why, but it presumably was because they wanted to ruin his relationship with Freya. No love interests means no weaknesses criminals can exploit and it means you have nothing more to live for than the League.

Wildfire Sexuality has not come up besides the scenes where he gets fucked by Buns in Chapter 2, but it implied in other material and the artist's comments that Wildfire is Gay and at least attracted to Frostbite, but Frostbite does not reciprocate because he is straight. He even said in the last public page that Wildfire wanted to kiss Frostbite but held himself back knowing that was not what he needed at the moment.

Buns' motivation also still does not fully mesh well with his actions. We know he wants his own League of Superheroes and he wants them in control instead of the current league. He also wants all of his heroes to be drones which he also uses as sex slaves. He also knows that the League has done shady stuff.

But we do not know why he does not just leak the evidence, or why he needs to enslave and kidnap people, or why he wants a League of Super Powered Sex Slaves to replace the already existing League.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 21:47:12 No.2119372
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>>2119336
Hey kudos for you to use the proper definition of a Mary Sue. But yeah I felt that way about Master Buns while writing that. But yeah, Buns seemingly knows what every other character is doing or has done at all times and has the ability to manipulate their actions or otherwise be involved in them. It does not help that he is the author's self-insert.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 22:31:59 No.2119391
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>No love interests means no weaknesses criminals can exploit and it means you have nothing more to live for than the League.

But doesn't that also mean that nobody in the league cares for anyone in the league? By definition, none of the superheroes there really care what happens to anyone else, meaning that all of them are disposable tools, which presents a problem, seeing as the only way for that rationale to work would be with people who only do the job for the sake of the job, but...why would they do the job in the first place?

Most superheroes do the job to protect the people they love:

Superman - His parents, Lois Lane. Jimmy Olsen
Batman - Alfread and the bat kids he adopts.
Spiderman - Auny May & Mary Jane

The only superheroes who do the job for the job are usually the anti-hero types:

Blade, Punisher, Spawn...and normally they are the loose cannon types who almost always end up hurting someone and having to go through a redemption arc to atone after realizing that they need friends in order to be better superheroes.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/03 22:50:33 No.2119393
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>>2119391

that's true, the heroes in this story feels like they don't have the reason to be a hero, why was wildfire a hero in the first place? why did he choose a career that was very dangerous, same goes for frostbite, I mean sure Freya, but I doubt he became a hero before her he met her.

I feel like these heroes don't have that motivation or reason to be a superhero.

Of course we don't have to have a origin story for any of this heroes I guess.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/04 05:30:44 No.2119516
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>>2119336

I sed stup flaming ok Bun’s name is ENOBY nut mary su OK!
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Furrynomous 2022/05/04 06:03:39 No.2119527
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I wonder if the character is insecure about his name Rubberbuns.

Like everyone thinks that rubber and buns are a weird combination of worde to make a name.

I wonder did he chose that name because he thought it sounded cool, or his parents is kinda like
"Ah yes, let's name our son Rubberbuns, what a perfect name for him"
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Furrynomous 2022/05/04 10:58:20 No.2119603
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 04:37:14 No.2120715
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>>2118835

I wonder why he said “viewer discretion is advised”
instead of just answering the questions
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 06:35:09 No.2120744
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>>2120715
Either he is joking, or he himself doesn't know or refuse to know the answer to as well.

saying viewer discretion is advised is like saying to someone "let me remind you that my work is questionable, so stop questioning it".
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 09:00:28 No.2120776
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Or it's because English is not his main language so something's lost in translation ie. doesn't know how to say that in English
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 11:35:29 No.2120826
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Judging from all of their comments and the comic itself.they seem to know english pretty well.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 12:35:59 No.2120843
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>>2120776
I doubt that's it, considering how fluent he types in the comments.

What why I don't figure is that why does he not answer the question about it.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 13:13:17 No.2120850
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Maybe he doesn't want to give it away too early or maybe he has no clue how his own story works anymore,and anyone who starts questioning things just pisses him off,since he can't give a straight answer.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/06 13:36:23 No.2120856
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>>2120850
Probably, he brushes off anyone who questions it and sometimes doesn't answer their questions.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/11 19:29:08 No.2123054
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New page out.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/11 21:41:11 No.2123089
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Furrynomous 2022/05/11 21:43:58 No.2123090
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>>2123089
All this Dick and he wants to Cuddle! lol
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Furrynomous 2022/05/11 22:10:24 No.2123098
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If your waiting to see a dick in this comic. you're in for some disappointment. rubber is the only thing your getting out of this author.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 00:10:07 No.2123139
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Here are the new teaser images
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 00:10:12 No.2123140
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>>2123139
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 00:32:38 No.2123163
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>>2123139

Isn't this.

>>2123089
Just this?

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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 00:38:47 No.2123164
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>>2123140

Let me guess,this isn't mind control either. XD
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>>2123140
I got you my bros
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>>2123166
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 00:44:17 No.2123170
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Thanks bro!
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 01:09:11 No.2123175
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Isn't he technically doing what the league is doing? Removing a person's free will and turning them into perfect soldiers devoted to the citizens? with his version they have even less of a choice in things since he's mind controlling them.and since he's removing any other authority there,he basically has control over the whole city.wolf guy is right.That doesn't sound like a tyrant at all XD
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 03:01:31 No.2123214
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>>2123175
well he was never really a good person in the first place and he who fights monsters best make sure not to become a monster
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 05:28:10 No.2123272
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>>2123175
"Viewer discretion is advised"
XD
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 05:33:50 No.2123273
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He just sounds like those weirdos, who believe they can make an "utopia" in their own way, by making "perfect" protectors, who will maintain order 100% of the time without having any life or will, so they will never do something wrong but that's just fucked and something will go wrong one way or another, not to mention, he said that they won't kill anyone but rather capture them. You know what it means? More rubber drone slaves for the master! hahahaha
So in the end just some weird rubber sex fantasy harem dictatorship, because regular super heroes may make mistakes xd
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 07:24:09 No.2123289
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>>2123273

My question is, what happens to the drones if he suddenly up and dies?

Like, there is NO chance that they will be mentally well after everything is all said and done, and if they look for another master to lead them...won't that give whoever gets control over them an unstoppable army?
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 08:13:11 No.2123309
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>>2123289
Yeah, this just means the whole plan is shit unless he's immortal. He really sounds like some kind of anime villain xd
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 08:17:39 No.2123312
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>>2123289
Yeah, this just means the whole plan is shit unless he's immortal. He really sounds like some kind of anime villain xd
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 11:20:21 No.2123361
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Unfortunately, he can't see that he is becoming what he swore to destroy, only much more efficient, he want's control and absolute obedience, like the league, he wants to have an army just like the league, everything he is doing, all for the sake of control, just like the league wants. It's an endless cycle, he is nothing more than the rhino himself, only having different methods, it's history repeating itself. And sooner or later, there'll be another Rubberbuns, another him, who wants control and overthrow him, and take his place.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 15:20:42 No.2123430
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Didn’t Rubberbuns tell Ikiryo to evacuate the compound as a fail safe against the league.

And now he told obsidian that he evacuating because he need a larger compound for his guardians
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 15:31:41 No.2123438
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Rubberbuns is just confused with his own character at this point.he seems to be torn between making buns seem overly cautious or a criminal mastermind.at the same time trying to get the audience to agree with his methods,even though he's just as messed up as the League.

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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/12 18:33:28 No.2123469
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Some authors want to tell a story where there are no clear villains or heroes but definite victims. From what I have read so far most if not nearly all of Rubberbuns' narrative elements seem cohesive to me. Is there an issue with a character being no better than the very same monsters he claims to oppose? Or is there an issue with an author telling the story from the perspective of a morally gray/gray-black character?
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 18:35:47 No.2123470
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Just waiting for a sudden plot twist, where the league never had anything to do with freya's death and it was all the bear's plot. It's not like there was any footage of the stuff happening, just words. xd
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 18:42:28 No.2123472
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>>2123469

I personally wouldn't call this cohesive,or even thought-provoking.but whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/12 19:32:24 No.2123484
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My boat will be floated best by your answering my questions.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 19:41:02 No.2123489
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>>2123484

I'd rather not.you're boat can sink.
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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/12 20:00:25 No.2123492
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>>2123489

Sorry, but you being a little uchan shit does not make for a valid argument.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 20:05:09 No.2123493
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>>2123492

Hooboy I see where this is going.who said i'm arguing and why are you getting offended?
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 20:06:41 No.2123495
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 20:09:36 No.2123496
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>>2123495

Thanks.your
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 20:11:57 No.2123499
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>>2123496
Very happy to help. We always have each other's back in this community.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 20:15:47 No.2123505
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Furrynomous 2022/05/12 22:02:19 No.2123528
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The plot is confusing the hell out of me.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/13 23:33:49 No.2124162
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>>2123175
>>2123273
>>2123361
>>2123312
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>>2123472

I think these are all pretty accurate. The issue probably arises from the fact that this is a fetish comic revolving around mind control, BDSM, slavery, etc, so having Mr Mastermind here actually be a hero liberator wouldn't really work. Wildfire is talking about freedom while have locks on their dicks lol. It's conflicting.

>>2123469

All of those things are ok, but you need some combination of time, background, or character building to do the "becomes what he wants to destroy" thing. That hasn't been developed at all. Maybe it will in the future but I wouldn't expect it.
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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/15 21:45:17 No.2125258
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>>2124162

>All of those things are ok, but you need some combination of time, background, or character building to do the "becomes what he wants to destroy" thing. That hasn't been developed at all. Maybe it will in the future but I wouldn't expect it.



You won't hear any arguments from me on that one. (Also, I thank you for your fair and balanced response to me.) What I'll say is, an author has a right to tell any story they want with as much or as little quality of detail as they wish, just as it is our right to not read the story or even criticize it if it's warranted.
The "criticism" I can think of for Rubberbunz's telling of Convergence falls more in line with "this isn't to my taste" as far as his fetish elements of rubbersuiting and mind control and so on than for any particular narrative failing. (And "This is not to my taste" is not an actual valid criticism.) Besides the happenstance incompatibility of our preferences, no particular narrative failing which any other casual author (read, "not a professional") doesn't occasionally fall into, had jumped out at me.

As I alluded to in the Internship 3 thread I have less of a problem with a "so so" or "average" or even "controversial" story than I have with people who comment on it blowing things out of proportion and being disingenuous.
It's one thing to misunderstand or to not be into something. It's another to purposefully misrepresent reality or to selectively turn blind eyes as a show of favoritism.

My current status with Convergence is "I remain invested enough to want to see where this goes". I concede Rubberbunz has thus far presented the pervert master bear in an implicitly favorable light. But he also said recently there are no heroes or villains in his story, thus the basis for my original comment. So I hold out some hope for the boys. Could be the case he is letting his story go through a slow burn. As with anything released serially we have no way of determining at a quick glance whether author did their job "right" or not. At the same time if there is no happy ending for iceboy and firecrotch I can't really quibble. It's all about the quality of production.

For example I am of the strong opinion purplebirdman and gabshiba made bad narrative decisions in their ongoing mainstays. See? I can take my hand off my dick just long enough to recognize when something simply can't be waved away or defended, ha ha ha. Beyond that, most of the time I don't bother commenting on low quality or "problematic" stories simply for the sake of pointing it out. I would be at it for a lifetime if I tried.

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Furrynomous 2022/05/15 22:12:37 No.2125267
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>>2125258

You cover up that passive aggressiveness behind you're comment pretty well,but not well enough.not everyone is going to think the same way as you,and you shouldn't expect them to.We are all allowed to have our own opinion and feelings on the story.And we are not obligated to kiss anyone's ass on the subject.you getting annoyed at people for talking a certain way about the story doesn't change our stance on it.as long as nobodies absolutely shitting on the author(and I don't mean something small that can easily be ignored) or saying horrendous things,there's no problem.
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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/15 23:55:29 No.2125300
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>>2125267

Uhh...What? What are you on about?
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Furrynomous 2022/05/16 00:30:38 No.2125316
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>>2125300

Exactly what I typed. I can't get any more clear then that.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/16 01:08:24 No.2125323
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>>2125300

Also,where exactly did you get the assumption that people didn't like the fetish being shown? The only consistent thing being complained about was the inconsistent plot and the "morally grey" buns.the whole consensus of people's time on this thread was about the odd narrative and barely about fetish's.nobody has shown any distaste in it,only confusion on how buns is handling things with it.
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Furrynomous!!0bL3ViDKLQ 2022/05/16 15:31:54 No.2125515
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>>2125323

I apologize for my unclear communication, which has lead to the misunderstanding about my intent for that particular portion of my Convergence fetishes discussion. I was speaking about myself and for my own personal tastes and preferences. That I was pledging to not hold it against Rubberbunz, nor that I would try painting his story as being "less than", just because I am not really a fetish fan myself. I was not speaking for others.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/16 15:54:13 No.2125521
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>>2125515

Oh,then my apologies for misunderstanding that particular section of your comment.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/21 16:43:36 No.2127694
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Is there any more to this crap yet? I want to see if holt and josh eventually beat the crap out of that bear.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/21 18:20:28 No.2127712
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>>2127694
Only one new page that was posted 3 hours ago
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Furrynomous 2022/05/21 23:17:05 No.2127780
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>>2127694
and this promotional image on twitter.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 00:36:14 No.2127806
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Anyone got the new page or should we wait a little longer?

Edited at 2022/05/22 00:51:21
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 00:51:08 No.2127810
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>>2127806
Here ya go pup
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 00:58:06 No.2127812
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Thanks! this comic is messed up.I need to see if that bear guy gets toppled.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 01:12:40 No.2127816
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>>2127810

Welp, everything seems like it's going to go his way.which means everythings going to get even more boring.if one side has the upper hand all the time,then nothings gonna be exciting if you know he's going to keep outsmarting them.and I can't even root for anyone other then frostbite.wildfire already seems to far gone now.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 02:53:28 No.2127838
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>>2125258
Thanks for the disquisition. Tho I'm not sure if I was unclear or if my three sentences were misconstrued but I like the fetishes here so taste and preference are not a factor in my ""criticisms"". I'm pretty just about everyone in thread likes the comic in general if they're invested enough to point out potential problems. Maybe these things will get resolved in eventually, but some mild criticism (posted with hand on or off dick) is probably fine in the meantime. It's ok I promise.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 05:15:55 No.2127927
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>>2127810

"Oh no, the heroes have attacked a slave-making rapist, but since he's now in the city he should be protected ! The heroes are truly eviiiiiiiil"

This comic is so brain-dead, I love it
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 08:55:24 No.2127960
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Wonder if we'll ever get a dramatic backstory for buns. All villains have one, even the dumb ones xd
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 09:21:44 No.2127964
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Fucking hell, this is bad. This is right up there with Mr Stallion's usual meaningless meandering plots. At least he draws porn. This is just fetishy, and a really boring fetish at that, covering a story that follows someone the author apparently wants us to think of as an antihero when he's really just a psychopath.
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Furrynomous 2022/05/22 13:38:50 No.2128102
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Would the public even know where the guardians came from, much less the blatant human rights violations being committed to create this organization

And on top of that would the existing government even approve of having there law enforcement replaced with such a shady organization

The only way I can see the public being remotely okay with this is if the guardians are very non-transparent with there Methods, at which point there be a Secret Police Force which may go against public interest
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Furrynomous 2022/05/23 22:16:08 No.2128702
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“A citizen’s rights will be etched into their mind as a heavy compulsion”
“They will never allow citizens to come into harms way, and ignore any order that would put them into harms way”

Then wouldn’t moving your base next to the guardians headquarters be a liability considering all the illegal activity buns has and probably will commit in the future?

Because I’m pretty sure breaking and entering, assault and battery, kidnapping, rape, destruction of evidence and destruction of public property is considered illegal.
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Furrynomous 2022/06/06 04:48:46 No.2134889
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Anyone have the next page of this mess?
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Furrynomous 2022/06/11 17:19:44 No.2137186
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New page anyone?
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Furrynomous 2022/06/20 10:47:36 No.2140673
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Was there anything else for this yet?
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Furrynomous 2022/06/23 14:42:53 No.2142595
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>>2140673
There is, but who ever was updating the KP page stopped for whatever reason
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Furrynomous 2022/06/23 18:31:47 No.2142721
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Here is the new promotional image for the authors Patreon
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Furrynomous 2022/06/23 18:34:19 No.2142723
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Thanks
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Furrynomous 2022/06/23 20:11:07 No.2142751
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Appreciate it!
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Furrynomous 2022/06/29 19:52:39 No.2146293
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I found this conversation on the authors fur-affinity page on the most recently published comic page.

OP “ it takes a tyrant to have the ambition for the good of the whole, even if he has to drag the whole kicking and screaming for the better”

Authors response “Good through evil”

OP “ well "evil" is subjective by context ;p one persons evil is another's for the greater good, a bear has to destroy a bee hive and eat the spawning salmon in order to eat, as the old philosophy goes, to a canary a cat is a monster, but to the cat all it knows is that it is a cat and does what it does based on its natural drives, your doing what governing bodies fail to do and often prop up by with corruption, by going down a dark path to fight corruption "fight fire with fire" an all that, you have to do what you feel is necessary, after all you cant make an omelette without cracking a few eggs”

Commenter “ Said every tyrant in fiction... unfortunately, it is that philosophy that has allowed numerous tyrants to rise in the past. Best check out Tim Pool's new song "Will of the People" to see this sort of philosophy's consequences...”

OP “ for good or ill, it was because of tyrants that progress could even happen too, as Q even once said "if you cant handle a little bloody nose then you should just go crawl back under your bed sheets" everything has consequences, hell just humanitys existence is a dreadful consequence on our planet and all other life that lives on it, or as data puts it to all other animals we are the cat to their canary”

Can anyone chime in on what I just read, because some of the commenters on Rubberbuns furaffinity page have rather unusual outlooks on life.
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Furrynomous 2022/06/30 15:43:30 No.2146679
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Some of them sound just a bit to edgy.
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I git the pages
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>>2146680
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>>2146680
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Furrynomous 2022/06/30 16:10:51 No.2146691
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Starting to see more of the hero side. already invested in those two.
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Furrynomous 2022/06/30 16:14:00 No.2146695
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Thanks anon!
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Furrynomous 2022/06/30 18:45:45 No.2146721
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>>2146691
Right? They're so much more interesting than the dumb bear and his slave army
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Furrynomous 2022/07/01 01:19:42 No.2146818
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This series always popped up in the GC page many times, curiosity got the better of me and I ended up reading the whole thing. I'm a sucker for therapy stories, which I did not know I was getting into, it was a nice treat
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Furrynomous 2022/07/01 07:09:44 No.2146922
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Yep. Rubberbuns definitely needs therapy.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/01 16:03:24 No.2147218
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Is it bad that I care more about the hero side, even though buns is apparently the main character of the story?
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Furrynomous 2022/07/01 16:05:22 No.2147219
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>>2147218

Buns is boring and badly written. Not like the rest of the comic is high art or anything, but his character is inconsistent at best, and a straight up psychopath at worst. There's nothing much TO care about with him.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/01 16:08:23 No.2147220
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The bear guys whole thing kinda reminds me of that villain ladies plot from Incredibles 2. screenslaver right?
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Furrynomous 2022/07/02 15:17:24 No.2147777
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Its not too hard to see the bear runs on an "ends justify the means" mindset, especially if he's on a time limit based on the bloody cloth.
"Create a utopia for millions by destroying the indiviuality of a few thousand", which fits into a villian mindset
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Furrynomous 2022/07/02 16:50:49 No.2147793
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Yep. he has that eren jaeger mindset, minus the killing billions but enslaving thousands. and we know how that turned out...

Edited at 2022/07/02 16:52:44
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Furrynomous 2022/07/06 14:01:46 No.2149703
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Anymore of this trainwreck?
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Furrynomous 2022/07/06 16:04:11 No.2149864
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>>2149703

The duality of this comment, I love it
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 14:16:11 No.2150684
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Not too much dancing around before these two got to it
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 14:44:38 No.2150692
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Oh yeah, that's the stuff.
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Oracion👍 2022/07/08 14:46:36 No.2150693
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100% on board for the hero side!
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 16:22:20 No.2150713
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Shame buns will fuck them up in the end
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 16:26:48 No.2150720
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A true shame...cheating ass rubber bitch.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 16:55:37 No.2150729
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I like where this going
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Furrynomous 2022/07/08 20:02:35 No.2150835
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Same. If only this was from their perspective. the heroic Society with a hidden dark side scenario is definitely more interesting than whatever the hell that rubber bear guy is doing.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/22 20:28:11 No.2157476
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Looks like 65 and 66 are out

(So post them yourself)
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>>2157892
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Furrynomous 2022/07/23 19:25:45 No.2157894
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100% better then that rubber bear guys plot. I'll be a hero if it means I can get Dommed by a hot rhino dude. plus his rubber fetish kind of sucks. you can't even have real sex in those suits, and it locks your junk.

Edited at 2022/07/23 20:27:32
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Furrynomous 2022/07/24 00:53:20 No.2158033
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Thanks.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/24 06:51:06 No.2158119
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This comic really feels like it would be way more interesting if it was more focused on the hero side, even if it followed the same story. The other side doesn't have much to offer in terms of content since most of it is just mindless drones
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Furrynomous 2022/07/24 13:46:10 No.2158386
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That's what i've been saying!
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Furrynomous 2022/07/30 11:05:52 No.2161880
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>>2157893
You know considering how the actual sex scenes have been executed thus far in this comic, I feel like Ruberbuns is either Gray-Ace, or he secretly wanted to make a normal superhero comic without the sex scenes.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/30 21:24:16 No.2162192
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>>2161880
That actually hits the nail right on the head.
He admitted a while back that he's not super into penetration, but is still really into sexual contact and kinks.
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Furrynomous 2022/07/31 18:31:18 No.2162551
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So he likes the tease of sex instead of the actual act? i've heard of that. It's basically an eternal foreplay session without ever having sex.

Edited at 2022/07/31 18:35:00
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Furrynomous 2022/07/31 18:43:16 No.2162558
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>>2162192

Probably why the Symbiote suits lock your junk away. you'll never be able to fuck anyone as long as you have one. which is another reason to choose the hero side XD
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Furrynomous 2022/08/01 05:39:02 No.2162986
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>>2162551
I mean, unless you find a way to get your dick sucked in VR, a comic is nothing but foreplay. So I love the idea of a teasing comic.

Some artists can make penetration look amazing, but for most it is just very mechanical.
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Furrynomous 2022/08/01 05:55:08 No.2162989
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>>2162986

uh porn comics are meant to be wanked to, so foreplay isn't the right word for them. a porn comic that only teases can get boring to read and tries to fall back on the plot to keep you interested. this is one of those times where the plot is so bad that you want to see if it gets any worse.

Edited at 2022/08/01 05:58:59
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Furrynomous 2022/08/01 09:21:59 No.2163030
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>>2162551
Not exactly, there is the concept of "outercourse" when it comes to a type of sex that don't involve something going in the ass

Edited at 2022/08/02 08:10:44
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Furrynomous 2022/08/12 03:16:39 No.2167871
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I want to motorboat that rhino.
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Furrynomous 2022/08/17 21:24:27 No.2170519
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Any new pages yet?
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Furrynomous 2022/08/19 19:12:45 No.2171475
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Furrynomous 2022/08/19 19:45:26 No.2171490
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They just swapped one type of conditioning for another. That's honestly pretty sad.
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Furrynomous 2022/08/19 20:12:48 No.2171507
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Ok, this just goes back to the whole brainwashing thing. holt is clearly brainwashed and it almost happened to josh. yet holt claims that the Symbiote only restrains powers and unruliness? I call bullcrap.
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Furrynomous 2022/08/19 20:30:09 No.2171509
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>>2171507
That is the thing about it.
Holt has been severely conditioned into the drone mindset so he honestly believes that and can't see he's been shoved into another puppet role.
So Josh is now adding in a voice of reason that has seen both sides of the issue, but managed to not break into submission.

Edited at 2022/08/19 20:36:08
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Furrynomous 2022/09/20 07:48:34 No.2187663
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This is the best we're getting. you'll never see there dicks with those symbiotes attached to them. the rubber fetish refuses fully exposed cocks. hero's sure, drones? nope.

Edited at 2022/09/20 07:51:53
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Furrynomous 2022/09/24 02:12:26 No.2189417
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This whole plot is ridiculous.
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>>2189776
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>>2189776
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Furrynomous 2022/09/24 14:51:01 No.2189795
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Finally, some push back. but how long is it going to last? thanks by the way.

Edited at 2022/09/24 14:51:26
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Furrynomous 2022/09/24 18:26:52 No.2189965
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Did he gain control of the Symbiote out of sheer anger? I love it if that's true. thanks for the new page. this is finally getting interesting XD

Edited at 2022/09/24 18:29:55
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Furrynomous 2022/09/24 18:45:36 No.2189999
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If he manages to bust out of that place on his own, I will take back half of the things I said about this.
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Furrynomous 2022/09/24 22:26:22 No.2190113
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The artist is teasing on the patreon at horny stuff happening in the next few pages, so Im making a guess Josh is going to be helping Holt with ironing out his conditioning...*directly*
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Furrynomous 2022/09/25 00:09:16 No.2190139
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It's gonna always be teasing right? nobody in those rubber suits will actually have legitimate sex in this comic. that's why that little plot point about how the suits make people's bodies overly sensitive to touch was even a thing unfortunately.

Edited at 2022/09/25 00:10:19
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Furrynomous 2022/09/25 10:08:09 No.2190258
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>>2189999
Be extra fun if he ends up dragging Holt along with him, cause that makes the bear's dictator/utopia plan fall completely flat and he ends up accidently creating two supercharged vigilantes againt him
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Furrynomous 2022/09/25 10:55:59 No.2190282
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>>2190258

That would be pretty great XD
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Furrynomous 2022/10/01 16:41:05 No.2193263
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>>2189965

The artist did explain in a previous comic page, the one where Holt looses the connection to his symbiont when he thought Josh was dying, that extreme emotions can disrupt the connection to the symbiont temporarily. Though he did not mention anger specifically, I could imagine this to be the case.

Also, in that last page here, we see Buns not smirking or smiling or anything that would indicate he had hoped for what just happened, in fact he looks worried or concerned. So that emotional outbreak surely was not on his plan, from what I could see.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/02 03:53:55 No.2193505
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Yep. something actually not being predictable and going the way he wants, is fun to watch.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/02 06:50:32 No.2193528
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>>2171509

And yet on the posts on Furaffinity, in the comments, the author states that Holt is not brainwashed and that he believes what he says here. Which actually does not mean much, I guess, since one could believe in something, simply because they have been brainwashed to believe it.

But let's say that is true that he is not 'brainwashed'. We can then in the next few pages clearly see that the symbiont takes over his conscious mind, making him an obedient puppet. Maybe that is the dichotomy here, his 'not brainwashed' mind, where he can say and think what he wants, and the other part, the mindless controlled part.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/02 07:13:01 No.2193529
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>>2193528

The artist doesn't seem to know what he wants anymore, aside from trying to make it seem that being with buns is better than the league. holt already seems to far gone, but josh SHOULD by a story standpoint be allowed to break free of being controlled by someone. It just makes sense given everything we learned about him, but I doubt the artist or his "fans" want that to happen. and josh's character will eventually stagnate into being a subservient tool for buns.

Edited at 2022/10/02 09:31:07
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Furrynomous 2022/10/03 20:10:04 No.2194439
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Ok then. I wasn't expecting it to go this way.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/03 21:55:30 No.2194466
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>>2194439
Time for our meaningless scheduled porn break...
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Furrynomous 2022/10/03 22:50:23 No.2194492
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>>2194437
If you need arrows to point to the flow of your comic page, you've got a bad page layout.

Also, until I see actual porn to prove otherwise, I really doubt this is gonna be anything other than fetishy foreplay like every other scene this artist has drawn up until now.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/04 06:39:30 No.2194602
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>>2194466
Lol what do you mean porn. It's just gonna be them rubbing latex diapers and making weird faces.

And then it will probably cut to the boss going "Nyehehehe all according to keikaku".
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Furrynomous 2022/10/04 06:49:04 No.2194604
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I keep telling you guys, you're not going to be seeing any real sex with drones. the rubber fetish won't allow it. which is another reason I'm sticking with the heroes side, even if they're just as messed up as buns.
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Oracion 😕 2022/10/04 07:26:46 No.2194611
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>>2194437
Aww. just when it was getting good.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/04 10:46:00 No.2194663
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I don't get this story. what is it's point or demographic?
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Furrynomous 2022/10/04 15:28:41 No.2194732
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>>2194437

Interesting to hear from Holt that Josh has not fully merged wtih the symbiont yet? I am now even more curious for what Mr Buns will say or explain in the next few pages. Was this planned? Did Josh truly subdue the symbiont, or is it just asleep? Each page just opens up only more questions. XD
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Furrynomous 2022/10/04 17:45:46 No.2194763
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If buns doesn't get punched at least once in this story, I'll be heavily disappointed.
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Seems what happened wasn't planned, if what the artist said in his little comment for the previous page means anything.
So at this point its waiting for the post-nut clarity to see what happens

Edited at 2022/10/06 12:08:35
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 02:07:40 No.2203285
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Any news yet?
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 06:48:35 No.2203339
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>>2203335

Yes, ok, great. That's a turn on. But what's the point if there's no orgasm from neither of them ?
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 08:06:05 No.2203347
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>>2203339
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Orgasm_denial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edging_(orgasm)
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 08:45:28 No.2203353
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>>2203347

Edging and orgasm denial only have a point to delay orgasm. But there, it's nothing. They are both locked up pretty much forever.

It's pointless.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 17:28:01 No.2203497
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Hard pass. eternal edging sounds painful.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/22 23:59:08 No.2203610
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>>2203353
Looked back at the part 1 comic and theres a page that basicly says the wanna-be-dictator allows them (tho just Holt at the time) to cum once a week
So its a week long thing
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Furrynomous 2022/10/23 16:37:21 No.2204046
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Wake me up when we see the hot rhino guy again. this rubber dictator plot makes me softer than down pillows.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/23 19:56:48 No.2204102
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So much for josh busting out of there. this is all (somehow) still going as planned for buns.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 14:17:03 No.2204468
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I'm still annoyed about the artist skip the rhino and doberman sex scene
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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 15:06:45 No.2204478
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Same. :'(
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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 15:48:28 No.2204490
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>>2204468
Clearly he didn't forget, the same fate awaits them, to be symbiote servants (or well, he was experimenting with the Doverman in some illustrations). It is better to take all possibilities knowing the artist, but hey, maybe we will have some satisfying surprise.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 15:59:22 No.2204496
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At this point I doubt it. the people on FA are eating this up, so I doubt anything surprising is going to happen. they crave corrupted rubber heroes, and a wanna-be dictator who's always in control, so that's all we're going to see. If any curveballs happen in the story it'll be a miracle.

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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 16:14:02 No.2204501
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*shrug*
That's what happens when the villain is the artist's self-insert
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Furrynomous 2022/10/24 16:29:13 No.2204508
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A true shame.
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Furrynomous 2022/10/25 17:35:36 No.2204950
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Only reason I still got tiny hope for the comic is that the artist had Josh say that the symbiote finally shut up
So even if the wanna-be dictator has control of the chasity part of the goo, its missing the hypnotic part squealng for "master"

Edited at 2022/10/25 19:49:25
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Furrynomous 2022/11/22 21:36:48 No.2216233
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Are there any new pages? not sure where to check.
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Furrynomous 2022/11/23 02:23:34 No.2216300
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I think from Kemono uaually, but the import tool is clogged into the thousands at the moment
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Kronologia 2022/11/26 07:26:49 No.2218013
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Heres a preview of a wip. i think you all will be happy.
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Furrynomous 2022/11/26 08:52:41 No.2218030
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Guess obsidian convinced him to let that happen. probably thinking it will be easier to control him if he gives him what he wants.
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Furrynomous 2022/12/09 22:20:44 No.2223894
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Has there been any updates?
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Furrynomous 2022/12/19 09:34:14 No.2228468
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The patreon importer on Kemono has apparently been broken for a bit.
Thus why zero updates for this
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Furrynomous 2022/12/20 10:21:57 No.2228759
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>>2228758
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Furrynomous 2022/12/20 10:22:02 No.2228760
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>>2228758
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Furrynomous 2022/12/20 10:22:07 No.2228761
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>>2228758
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Furrynomous 2022/12/20 10:44:40 No.2228767
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Welp, guess these guys won't be escaping anytime soon.
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Furrynomous 2022/12/20 20:21:09 No.2228953
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Thanks. forgot about this trainwreck. wonder if this will ever get exciting at some point.
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Furrynomous 2022/12/23 13:37:08 No.2229984
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Furrynomous 2022/12/23 13:45:03 No.2229989
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Thanks again.
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Furrynomous 2023/01/12 08:48:28 No.2238525
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Well, Holt and Josh aren't being watched anymore, *might* lead to something interesting post horny
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Furrynomous 2023/01/12 11:38:26 No.2238568
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Why does this weirdly feel like josh is being set up to be the new buns or something? fetish bear looks like he slowly dying, and josh looks like he's enjoying dominating others more and more. and since josh already hates the league now, he's in a perfect position to want to take over buns role or at least do things in his own way. just a weird theory because of this feeling I'm getting. don't mind me.
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Furrynomous 2023/01/12 12:06:48 No.2238578
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Furrynomous 2023/01/12 13:33:27 No.2238619
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This plot is still stupid but I will admit. seeing josh take charge in something he actually wants to do is pretty hot.
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Furrynomous 2023/01/16 10:12:48 No.2240072
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The artist has admited that he ain't a fan of anal penatration, but face sitting is apparently fine.
Kinks really can be beyond comprehension some times
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Furrynomous 2023/01/19 08:11:42 No.2241112
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Furrynomous 2023/01/19 09:51:15 No.2241133
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He will fart on the lion because that's one of the artist's kinks
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Furrynomous 2023/01/19 14:05:02 No.2241246
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It is?
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Furrynomous 2023/01/20 16:55:31 No.2241871
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>>2241246
Eh, I doubt it.
He did draw art of that fetish but it was literal years ago, like even before the first comic of Holt's kidnapping.

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Furrynomous 2023/01/29 19:48:19 No.2245683
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This and the WIP of the next page actually dipping a bit into assplay, guess the artist is expanding a bit out of his bubble
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Furrynomous 2023/01/30 02:14:44 No.2245756
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Furrynomous 2023/01/30 02:42:38 No.2245760
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Gasp penetration?!!!!
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Furrynomous 2023/01/30 02:47:26 No.2245764
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Only reason I continue to read this mess is because of Holt and Josh's development. couldn't care less about anything else.
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Furrynomous 2023/01/30 02:52:17 No.2245766
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Wonder what's going to happen once this high wears off.
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Furrynomous 2023/02/06 07:58:52 No.2248588
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Just noticed that Josh never gained the drone number on his sholders, even post "full merge".
And it ain't a mistake either, considering the artist edited pg 85 to put back Holt's cause he forgot them in the first draw.
Wonder if its a foreshadow thing of how the polar bear decided to never be under anyone's thumb again
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Furrynomous 2023/02/06 12:38:30 No.2248662
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Oh so that's what's happening to the fetish bear. I guess brainwashing so many people is finally taking its toll on him.
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Furrynomous 2023/02/06 14:58:03 No.2248716
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I think page 19 is missing
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Furrynomous 2023/02/07 08:28:34 No.2248987
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>>2248662
He thinks his utopia justifies the means, even if it includes killing himself

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Furrynomous 2023/02/07 08:54:03 No.2249004
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His utopia was doomed from the start.
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The wicked Mead 2023/02/14 22:29:40 No.2252182
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So I just recently got into this. who are we supposed to be rooting for?
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Furrynomous 2023/02/14 23:29:06 No.2252189
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>>2252182
Josh I think
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The wicked Mead 2023/02/15 00:02:21 No.2252205
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>>2252189
Yeah he does seem to have the worst luck out of all of them.
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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 11:15:49 No.2252353
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There might be a glimmer of hope, based on the page when he properly "fused" with the symbiote, it seems Josh might be free of the compelling voice, considering the blue colored text hasn't appeared since he mention it finally shut up

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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 15:22:15 No.2252393
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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 15:43:03 No.2252399
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it's called LOVE, THAT'S WHY!
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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 17:03:47 No.2252430
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Rhino dude is gonna do something terrible to that girl isn't he? : (
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Furrynomous 2023/02/15 18:56:56 No.2252468
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lmao, empath
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Furrynomous 2023/02/25 12:49:32 No.2256666
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Furrynomous 2023/02/25 12:51:23 No.2256667
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Huh, me thinks dictator bear might end up turning himself into a drone on accident
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Furrynomous 2023/02/25 16:28:22 No.2256744
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Probably.
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Furrynomous 2023/03/04 13:36:19 No.2259557
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>>2256666

why am i sensing red flags?
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Furrynomous 2023/03/04 15:42:10 No.2259578
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>>2259557
If you were gonna sense red flags, you should have sensed them in the previous page.

Two men in positions of power asking to see a young female student alone, and the one with the most power and ability just happens to be predisposed against psychics.

There's like a 98% chance that this does not end well for her. If she's lucky, she'll just get a warning. But if she's not... she might legitimately be straight up killed, or lobotomized or framed for a crime she did not commit.

There are far too many ways for this to go wrong for her.

At any rate, the topic of psychic dementia has now been breached, and I think it's likely going to be a way to explain how the Rhino became such a goddamn douchebag. He's a psychic currently experiencing psychic dementia for overtaxing his powers.
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Furrynomous 2023/03/04 16:34:31 No.2259597
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Furrynomous 2023/03/04 18:02:29 No.2259620
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Welp, called it. fetish bear is dying. Just didn't know from what.
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Furrynomous 2023/04/01 20:30:18 No.2270977
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Well, this thread went quiet
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Furrynomous 2023/04/18 15:35:10 No.2278109
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Few images have been posted already. Sorry for being a cunt.
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Furrynomous 2023/04/25 21:10:13 No.2281026
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Anymore of this trainwreck?
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Furrynomous 2023/05/05 06:05:21 No.2285214
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ok. What's happening?
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Furrynomous 2023/05/05 11:03:10 No.2285271
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>>2285214
Well, based on the previous pages... the bear overtaxed himself. We're seeing the side effects
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Furrynomous 2023/05/05 14:47:08 No.2285396
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Full descent into a paranoid fit
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Furrynomous 2023/05/05 22:19:01 No.2285554
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Also missing a few pages
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Furrynomous 2023/06/16 15:25:23 No.2307473
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I love how the author keeps saying they're not, but they're very clearly being brainwashed. they keep making excuse after excuse even in the story to try to justify it XD
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Furrynomous 2023/06/16 16:13:02 No.2307514
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Seeing the denial is still amusing to me
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Furrynomous 2023/06/16 17:20:51 No.2307538
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Thought of this as well. At this point he should just admit it.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/16 18:27:30 No.2307562
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He's like disney trying to keep villians sympathetic and redeemable and afraid to make fun bastards.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/16 18:53:37 No.2307574
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>>2307562

Because he doesn't really know what to do with someone who is evil and has to be defeated.

The idea behind a good villain is that they are so reprehensible that they need to be defeated by any means necessary; never forget that Darth Vader was a military commander, and Luke was basically a rebel mercenary. Their fight in the first and second movies were about two military men having a conflict. You really didn't need a morality to that if one was objectionably hurting others without cause. See the destruction of Alderaan.

But then you have to try to not fall in love with the villain, and more than a few writers/artist do that, where they love the freedom that comes with hurting others and not caring about the consequences, this is why, IMO, the Joker is so beloved. He hurts others and doesn't give a damn, and some people really want to do that.

Meanwhile, Buns main characters supposed to be 'heroes', but without a villain to fight against, they can't really be heroes, since they have no one to save, no one to defeat and no one to stand against on any physical/intellectual/moral level.

Looking at the comic, you really realize that there is no story taking places, there are just events happening. People go to different locales because the narrative needs them to. And they react on a very basic level because that's just basic characterization.

With that said, it makes you wonder why anyone is a superhero instead of just a regular person with supernatural powers.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 01:46:05 No.2307678
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I agree that this is just fetish with a very loose plot but from a narrative standpoint, I know this comic is literally about heros and villains but the argument is protagonist and antagonists perspectivess. If the narrative focused primarily on Buns, he would be the comics main protagonist and the hero's would be the antagonist (antagonist is not synonymous with villain) even though he is the 'bad guy'. However, our heros are the main focus so they are our main protagonist, arguably more Frost, who opposes buns, which then in turns make buns the enemy from a story telling perspective.
If you write a story about aliens invading earth from the aliens perspective, they may do it for resources, survival, exploration that's truned to war, you can understand their reasoning to do so even though they are in the wrong. With buns however, there is no SOLID justification for his actions for readers to side for him EXCEPT the idea of muscular guys in skintight rubber would be highly appealing. At end of day. It's a comic about mind control, rubber kinks and hot guys getting it on - no one is super invested in the plot, we all know we just waiting for the next hot scene.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 05:53:41 No.2307821
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Yeah. he keeps trying to make buns seem better than the league just because he sees his actions as "noble" and treats his subordinates in his view "better". literally remove the rhino guy from the league and it will be 100 times better then bun's whole operation.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 10:34:42 No.2307861
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Another point too is that he wants us to think that since the league uses torture to make their hero's (which may not be the case for all of them) makes them worst than buns cause he uses "pleasure".

no matter the means the results are the same, he's using forceful sensory overload to coerce others into doing what he wants.
which makes buns come off as pretty hypocritical and self righteous.

I know this is a pretty hot trope in the furry fandom and it kind of is but to try to take it seriously and treating it as more just thing, to me just feels a little gross.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 12:16:47 No.2307867
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Also, why did he convert some random gym bros to become his new rubber drones if he wants to make the city a better place even? Couldn't he just gather some low-life scum and reform them for that cause? It would make him look "slightly better" because his new guardians will need to protect the citizens from scum and there'd be no scum if he reformed them himself lol
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 14:50:51 No.2307912
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The art, character and story potential is all there but just like many artists, the writing is the weakest element or the plot/story hasn't been fully thought through. We as readers could really side with Bun and his plans of there was real justification or explanation for any of his actions. Imagine if the setup had been Bun was a former hero council member who disagreed with hero training, exam selection or justice was served so decided to left the hero's and became a vigilante. He captured criminals and rehabilitates them with Symbiots, reforming them into paid guardians and uses extreme sexual gratification as a motivator and reward to ensure criminals don't abuse powers. Same for heros. he captured them and applies same tactics as both a motivator and deterrent to work for him to overthrow the 'corrupt' hero council and offer individuals to be assimilated for strength, opportunity, blah blah. This is a weak example but at least something like this would be a persuasive argument for readers to side with buns of make the argument more nuanced. I'm no writer (obviously) but if you want to try force a complex or clever plot into your comic l, you either try to make sense of it or just stick to porn with a very simple plot.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 15:27:36 No.2307924
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Weak example, yet way more compelling than the actual comic. I believe it could've been better, if he didn't insert his actual fursona into the story, because it means that he will avoid killing off/getting rid off buns cause "omg that's me, I can't be a loser" and by extension buns has to be clearly "the best", even though there's the polar bear, who's supposed to be the hero, yet buns keeps trying to overshadow him with his own sona.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 16:20:08 No.2307937
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The artist could of even went the other way, rather than trying to make bun seem like the good guy, he could have made bun properly devious and a great villain. Plans simple. Turn people into horny symbiotes for sale. Those symbiotes then turn the ones who purchased them into symbiotes and then sell them. Profit. Expand. Repeat. Why because he want the city to be a playground of lust and sin for him to endulge in. His own kink utopia. Buns could be a completely dominant asshole just for the sake of it and can win in the end. Plenty of media where people love and even route for the villain - The joker, Ursula, Darth Vader. Look at horror movies with Jason, Chucky, Freddy Krueger - no one is routing hot the hero's, we all want to see how these legends get shot done in as many ways as possible. Imagine if we got shorter stories about buns turning people and heros into symbiotes in so many ways. Hero in the bathtub, why has the water turned black? Queue hot rubber scene. These black bedsheets I got as a mysterious gift sure are sensual, hope nothing strange happens when I sleep in them. This isn't my usual rubber yogaball I bounce on when training. Wow black condoms that are really snug, I'm sure nothing really strange will happen when the two of use are fucking leading to some seriously kinky stuff. Don't give him a moral compass, just a massive asshole who turns horny people into even hornier people. Relish in being the bad guy and people would like it alot more.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/17 22:24:59 No.2308025
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^ Yep. If his Sona was unapologetically an asshole at least we know what we're getting and what to expect. he's rotten to the core and proud of it, so we can either hate or love him depending on the person. but instead we have this wannabe anti-hero who wants to invoke sympathy and reasoning for his actions even though they're shallow and slapped over a fetish.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 07:27:59 No.2310428
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 13:02:58 No.2310573
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>>2310428
Now its a choice!? After they already tricked them into putting it on!?

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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 13:22:49 No.2310576
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^ I know right? Give them a helmet that basically rewires their brain, and then tells them they have a choice to leave and forget this ever happened. the whole thing is a trap. there's no way they would have said no XD
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 14:04:54 No.2310591
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>>2310428

Is this suppose to be rhetorical?
after droning them, you SUDDENLY give them a choice?
like c'mon we know they don't have a mind of their own anymore, you don't need to show this illusion of choice to make it seem justified like
"see! they said yes, so it's okay"
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 14:15:07 No.2310594
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also while they present the “options”, they seem to be getting stimulation while talking about accepting the guardian title, which would also be more incentive for them to accept it as well.
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 14:36:19 No.2310611
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One of the most frustrating things about this is that he wants to present it as something the victims want to do but nothing is shown to be something they actually want.

Maybe if he targeted, cops that have failed or were fired, ex military men, prison keepers, men in neighborhood watches.

Men who already have a predetermined attraction to keeping order, this would at least work to be more believable.

But as it stands now none or at least most of these men should have a reason to want to be a guardian, they are random bodybuilders from a gym.

Where is the psychological manipulation that is supposedly Mr buns has?
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 15:17:36 No.2310638
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He should join the Olympics, with all the mental gymnastics his doing to justify this, he'll win a gold medal with no doubt
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Furrynomous 2023/06/23 15:28:45 No.2310640
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Can we just agree that the plot is absolutely garbage and we just waiting for the next hot rubber sex/tease/edging scene because it's the only reason most of us come back to this?
Forget story about good or bad, just focus on the hot horny art because it's the only thing going for this series.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 05:15:42 No.2319214
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Are there any new pages?
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 05:49:39 No.2319219
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>>2319218
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 05:55:39 No.2319221
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why so serious? Just enjoy the sexy rubber scenes. (However, i think sexy pages hasn't came for a long time, whitch is like page11-23)
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 06:43:48 No.2319229
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The illusion of choice is strong in this one.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 07:39:05 No.2319236
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>>2319219
this is so comical lol
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 15:56:43 No.2319472
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>>2319221
Nothing to be serious about, the creator just can't admit his self-inserted fursona is delusional and shit. Nothing new from fursona's it is a tale as old as time. I just want polarbear to at least find some happiness and rhino to get what's coming to him.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 17:28:31 No.2319495
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I wish somehow the creator could lose control of this comic and Buns' bullshit slave factory would burn to the ground, he would realize what an evil bastard he is, and the actual good guys would triumph and kill Buns. And the creator would just be forced to miserably draw it all out instead of just letting his monstrous villains always win.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 22:48:17 No.2319565
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Feels like some (not all) of yall forgot Josh is a third side of all this, despite being under dictator bear's thumb atm.
Even after the sex scene, his last scene was secretly deciding to investigate via playing along since he decided to not be a pawn ever again.

Edited at 2023/07/12 22:54:09
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Furrynomous 2023/07/12 23:07:32 No.2319568
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^ but someone asked on one of the more recent pages on fur affinity, if Josh would actually be secretly investigating or suffer stockholm syndrome. and the author pretty much confirmed stockholm syndrome. and unless he was trying to do a fake out, josh is probably going to start sympathizing with him unfortunately.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/52616383/#cid:173369933

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Furrynomous 2023/07/13 17:55:24 No.2320006
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I think having followed Rubberbuns for a long time, this comic is having the following issues:

1. He never really planned out how this would go. It started as a kink series with latex and superheroes and mind control, and then he wanted more, but rushed out the story only to not have a good plan where it was going.

2. He is flip-flopping and indecisive about committing anything. "Is the bear a villain or an anti-hero, do the heroes love each other or is it mind control, is the superhero league corrupt or just a bit badly managed" and so on, Rubberbuns can't really fathom which answer it is, so he is just towing a middle line of not answering and hoping he can find the right answer

3. He's going to make it take SO long to get to good, honest sexual stuff. Lots of kinky discussions and poses and the like will happen as it has been so far, but no actual sex. He likely feels that is for a "key moment" like perhaps the hero finally breaking and submitting, but due to the previous two comments, that means we are going to be playing Half Life 3 before we get to that.

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Furrynomous 2023/07/13 19:52:14 No.2320044
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>>2320006

What's really amazing here is the lack of imagination. If he wants to justify all of "this", all he has to do is introduce a true villain.

Someone who would walk up to a hero and put two caps in the back of their head in broad daylight.

Once that's done, and done to the point where there's a high casualty rate in the middle of the city, the entire conversation of justification becomes one that he could then rationalize, especially if his "troops" are resistant to such violence.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/14 06:21:22 No.2320136
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>>2320006

Yeah. I was looking on the author's gallery there and noticed three commenters who stood out the most. two brownie point chasers who kept praising everything buns was doing, and one person who kept calling everything out in the story. which caused a couple arguments but it was still fun to read.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/14 07:13:37 No.2320140
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Whether you're enjoying the plot or not, you cannot deny that buns draws and colours latex amazing and can create seriously hot artwork. Assuming people in this thread are into the same latex kink, we can enjoy the porn for just being really good itself without being hung up on the questionable story telling. It's big beefy horny dudes getting of in mind controlling latex goo - it's hardly worth taking seriously. The story may improve but we are all here for the horny so just appreciate the work for all your horny needs and just savour it. Would you rather buns didn't make any content because I know I can't wait for next piece of horny art.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 18:21:52 No.2320782
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>>2320044
I don't think it even needs to get that serious or all grim to be better. It just needs him to decide his core aspects and stick to it.

It also doesn't help that he seems to take criticism both TOO seriously but also not at all. He is clearly editing and changing parts to suite bits his audience have mentioned wanting to see, while also refusing to ask for advice or accept anything that could be seen as negative feedback
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 18:41:25 No.2320785
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>>2320140

The story is trying to take itself seriously, plus we're allowed to criticize it. so....yeah.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/25 19:47:05 No.2324534
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Updates?
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Furrynomous 2023/07/26 08:26:48 No.2324698
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I'll be damned, the artist drew more anal so soon after Holt and Josh's romp
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Furrynomous 2023/07/26 10:51:06 No.2324717
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Lmao, just lmao
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Furrynomous 2023/08/03 12:57:19 No.2328152
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Well this has flown so hard into being silly I'm expecting there to be some type of mood whiplash soon
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Furrynomous 2023/08/04 06:17:43 No.2328445
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I have no idea why I'm so invested in this comic because it makes no sense but I genuinely cannot wait to see how more ridiculous it can get. I am hoping it escalates to all symbiots melding into a giant latex goo blob that just floods the city and everyone just turns into rubber horndogs because buns is literally just dancing around this idea. Just get to the horny climax and move onto a new project, the anticipation and waiting of this car crash of a comic (you shouldn't watch but you can't look away) is simultaneously annoying and exciting.
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Furrynomous 2023/08/11 02:30:04 No.2331513
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Furrynomous 2023/09/21 12:39:58 No.2341132
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updates?
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Furrynomous 2023/09/22 14:20:35 No.2341196
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Any new pages to this? I want to see how badly this Trainwreck goes off the rails.
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Furrynomous 2023/09/23 08:49:11 No.2341281
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Furrynomous 2023/09/23 14:07:28 No.2341286
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Furrynomous 2023/09/23 15:16:22 No.2341289
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If nothing else, buns is a master manipulator. With the Symbiotes and the helmets, he can either force it to happen automatically or have it subtlety affect them over time. He can break down their minds and reinforce his mindset into them without them even realizing it, or if they do realize it they can't stop it. Because they'll be convinced they're coming up with the ideas themselves and drawing their own conclusions, effectively domesticating themselves by slowly aligning their viewpoints with his.
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Furrynomous 2023/09/23 16:05:29 No.2341290
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>>2341289
There's also basic Stockholm Syndrome at play. He's living in quite a luxurious cage, but it is still a cage nonetheless. He can't exactly decide to leave, even when he thinks he's the one in control. So even without direct brainwashing, his reliance on Cedric Burns for everything (food, clothes, housing, entertainment etc.) is going to cause him to view him in a much less negative light than he would otherwise.
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Furrynomous 2023/09/23 17:27:22 No.2341291
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Which is a shame. I kind of wanted to see Josh wreak havoc in his organization from the inside out. but I guess he's just going to be another one of his slaves down the road.
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Furrynomous 2023/09/24 14:46:44 No.2341330
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I kinda hope there's more than a binary choice between two evils for Josh. The artist did some side lore content and there are vigilantes with zero ties to the league or the bear.
Let him basiclly become a third side to the conflict as a vigilante, maybe with the hope of breaking Holt out of his conditioning of being an unwitting puppet and fighting the shady league buisness

Edited at 2023/09/24 14:54:14
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Furrynomous 2023/09/24 15:42:30 No.2341331
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Furrynomous 2023/10/01 13:22:53 No.2341872
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Josh's left arm in the second-to-last panel looks slightly off if you look too long
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Furrynomous 2023/10/01 22:42:51 No.2341917
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new pages?
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Furrynomous 2023/10/02 20:15:52 No.2341999
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>>2341331
How much denial is this from the creator at this point?
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Furrynomous 2023/11/01 21:37:10 No.2346450
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Anything new?
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Furrynomous 2023/11/02 08:23:36 No.2346517
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There is, but the site's file uploader seems to be acting up
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>>2348674
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Convergence Furrynomous 2023/11/22 02:15:37 No.2348676
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>>2348674
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Furrynomous 2023/11/26 23:36:54 No.2351594
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Good ol' trio of The Serious One, The Party Animal, and the Dumb one
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Furrynomous 2023/12/05 04:15:10 No.2352266
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Haven't read this in a while.....a lot happened.
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:15:36 No.2353743
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>>2353742
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:30:53 No.2353751
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>>2353750
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:31:17 No.2353752
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>>2353750
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:33:38 No.2353753
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:33:56 No.2353754
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>>2353753
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 09:34:23 No.2353755
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>>2353753
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 15:11:14 No.2354001
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>>2353753

Sounds like both buns and the author are finally fed up with all the brainwashing accusers. I mean, it still is brainwashing. But it's kind of funny how he's directly addressing it to the person everyone says it's happening too the most XD
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Furrynomous 2023/12/16 17:52:11 No.2354085
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>>2353752
>>2353753
>>2353754
>>2353755
>>2354001
This is just pathetic and a bad case of denial.
It is still brainwashing at the end of the day no matter how much buns keeps polishing his rod to say it isn't.
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Furrynomous 2023/12/17 10:21:02 No.2354328
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And ignores how Holt was being treated like a "dumb" toy in his kidnapping comic and the first few pages of the previous comic with obvious hypno-swirl imagery.

Edited at 2023/12/17 11:15:55
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Furrynomous 2023/12/17 17:25:55 No.2354484
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>>2354328
What buns is doing reminds me of a popular manga way back called usagi drop that got its own anime and movie adaptation. It starts off good but then it turns into a grooming manga later on. The manga creator kept trying to tell the readers through his manga that it wasn't grooming, but the readers know the substances of what grooming is and disliked how it turned out.

Its same with buns, this is brainwashing and his ego is just out of control if he is ignoring key facts of brainwashing and kidnapping that he made occur in the previous and current comic.

Edited at 2023/12/17 17:27:45
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Furrynomous 2023/12/17 23:00:40 No.2354583
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Still hoping the artist came to the conclusion for Josh to eventually become a third side in this conflict between the league and the bear.
Make him a vigilante along with *maybe* Holt's brother, with their first objective being to break the mental control of the 01 symbiote like how Josh outwilled his, so he can save his basically-at-this-point-boyfriend.
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Furrynomous 2024/01/15 09:09:41 No.2360853
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>>2362201
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Furrynomous 2024/01/25 08:38:02 No.2362203
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>>2362201
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Furrynomous 2024/01/25 13:31:11 No.2362265
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The lengths the creator goes to try to justify Buns actions, is honestly hilarious.
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Furrynomous 2024/01/25 19:19:41 No.2362306
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>>2362265
It's his self-insert so everyone needs to love him after all
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Furrynomous 2024/02/09 18:28:53 No.2363003
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>>2362306
What feels strange is how in one off art and the original kidnapping comic, the artist fully embraces the "villain that treats others like toys" thing
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Furrynomous 2024/02/11 07:18:13 No.2363180
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>>2362265
yeah...The author throws a hissy fit if you say that he's raping Josh
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Furrynomous 2024/02/11 22:11:31 No.2363228
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>>2363180
Classic rug sweeping and grand standing
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Furrynomous 2024/02/16 02:30:18 No.2363639
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Furrynomous 2024/02/26 02:00:11 No.2364075
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>>2363639

I thought the voice was gone?
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>>2364853
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Furrynomous 2024/03/13 03:56:09 No.2364855
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>>2364853
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Furrynomous 2024/03/13 04:11:02 No.2364860
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Using Holt to catch Josh in an emotional mental trap. Buns is a mess.
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Furrynomous 2024/03/13 04:19:13 No.2364861
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There's no way he would let Josh just go like that.he knows too much, he would be a liability.
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Furrynomous 2024/03/13 09:20:30 No.2365004
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Ok, so wtf is wrong with Josh's and Bun's ears on the last few pages? This looks hella uncanny, when the ears are placed, where the human ears would be found at.
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Furrynomous 2024/03/17 19:12:51 No.2366108
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artist going off model accidentally ig lol
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Furrynomous 2024/03/18 11:02:06 No.2366229
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>>2364861
He's not letting Josh go at all. As he mentioned, the Symbiote would have prevented him from acting out, so the Symbiote still has a large amount of control over their shared body.

Moreover, letting Josh run free in a city he has absolute control over is just upgrading from one cell to another, albeit a much bigger cell.

It's the illusion of choice. As long as Josh is equipped with the Symbiote and lives within walls controlled by Burns, all he has is an illusion of choice.

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