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Crossing That Bridge Furrynomous 2019/04/10 23:21:10 No.1574686   
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by Glopossum
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/glopossum/

(View a few pages ahead on their Patreon!)
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Furrynomous 2019/04/10 23:24:40 No.1574693
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Thecatmoose 2019/04/11 00:51:08 No.1574719
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10/10 just go buy your own if you like it that much. Don't stretch his out God 🙄
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 07:44:41 No.1574832
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This has to do with the comic page 7 cos this mini comic looks the same as those charcters, I assumed female on female or male on female play when looking at that image but it's actually male sucking on shemale XD
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 07:47:25 No.1574835
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 08:54:39 No.1574838
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Meh, while I do like the dicks, I feel most of the gay guys look a little too feminine for my taste
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 11:00:02 No.1574852
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I like this. The whole buildup to this point is a fun ride, and feels pretty damn hot. And instead of just basically females with male parts, it’s got a pretty good cross dressing male feel to it. 10/10.
I’ll be checking in on this for sure.
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Anon 2019/04/11 11:04:14 No.1574853
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I am glad they don't look like girls, still a bit too feminine for my tastes as well
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 17:46:47 No.1575034
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Furrynomous 2019/04/11 22:20:22 No.1575079
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I don't normally go for the whole crossdressing thing, but this is actually working for me.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 02:13:11 No.1575127
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ORE!?!?!
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Glopossum, I Swear 2019/04/12 07:31:03 No.1575227
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Hey yall, artist here!

Thanks for the kind words on my comic! Its my first ever long-form venture into the medium and Ive been having a ton of fun with it!

While its a bit of a bummer to see some of the Patreon-exclusive pages here, having your paid digital goods distributed for free online is kind of inevitable nowadays (heck I used to go on here back in the day). But furry art accounts for about 99% of my income right now, and Im no big shot like Meesh, just a country girl tryin to make do. If you want to check out my Patreon, send a tip, or even commission me, itd mean a lot to me!!

https://www.patreon.com/glopossum

Enjoy the comic!!

Edited at 2019/04/12 07:45:06
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 07:47:47 No.1575237
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>>1574835
Why's he look so much thicker here, than in the comic?
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 10:02:49 No.1575259
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>>1575227
You should draw more mtf cuties tbh >.>
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 11:47:06 No.1575282
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>>1575227
That cat is so fucking cute!
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No name 2019/04/12 11:49:50 No.1575283
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Ill be checking out your patreon for sure... the real ness of the characters, and the pacing makes this so DAMN HOT. It feels believable, and thats what separates it from other comics. Well done!>>1575227

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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 12:01:22 No.1575286
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>>1575227
First of all: Keep at it! I'm loving the comic so far!

2nd: Stuff from Patreon usually gets leaked, sadly it's near impossible to prevent that without using extreme leaking protection methods (steganography and whatnot). I'm heavily considering giving a tip, though :D
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 14:16:28 No.1575358
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>>1575227
Hey buddy, I'm the uploader. (Talked to you on FA) I'm really sorry about the Patreon pages. Someone else uploaded them rather quickly. And why?? Who knows. Who wouldn't want to support the artist? You took it way too nicely! But, hope it drums up some business for you anyway :P
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 14:59:37 No.1575436
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Holy crap this is super cute >.>
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 15:41:41 No.1575448
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>>1575358
I uploaded the two pages, and I apologize for doing so. I've removed them both
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 17:33:17 No.1575472
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Regardless, offering "first views" on patreon or the like is just artificial scarcity - providing the same thing for a higher price in hopes that some people are desperate enough to pay more.

The fair thing would be to set out some certain price for a page, and then give it out if the price is met. If not enough people chip in to pay the amount, then nobody gets it. If more people chip in, each pays less. There shouldn't be any bullshit about "pay more, see it first!" because that is not value, that's just you holding it back for everyone else.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/12 21:04:36 No.1575516
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>>1575079
I'm the opposite actually. "slut" isn't really my aesthetic
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DancingLion 2019/04/12 23:04:24 No.1575571
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>>1575227
The fact that you are a girl makes this more cute and hot than before, I don't exactly know why xD
I'll bookmark this to make sure I support your art when I get the bank to fix my fu**ing credit card that is broken in their system......
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Er, well... :3
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Furrynomous 2019/04/13 00:41:49 No.1575597
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>>1575472
Desperate people would pay more if there was a set goal they had to reach. Also, it'd have inconsistent page releases or if it was fully paid the artist could be tempted to rush it. And why would they limit their potential profit anyway? If anything remove the sneak peek, but it's just incentive and this one's releasing them in good time.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/13 01:43:11 No.1575637
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All I see is a beautiful lady.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/13 03:44:13 No.1575649
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>And why would they limit their potential profit anyway?

Just because you can take money doesn't mean you should - like taking a dollar out of a small child by offering them two shiny pennies in exchange.

The point of selling "exclusivity" is exactly that. All I'm saying is, if you put it out there, put it out there - don't play stupid games with it.

>or if it was fully paid the artist could be tempted to rush it.

All those things fall under the term "quality". When you're selling something, your customers weigh what you have on offer against what you're asking for it, and decide whether it's worth paying. Those who think it is, pay, those who don't, don't. If the art becomes rushed, the customers go away and the price has to drop to get them back in - alternatively, if you keep your standards up you can ask for more money and people are happy to pay.

The point of exclusivity here again is to keep the customers locked in to something like a Patreon subscription, which they could cancel but they're less likely to do so. This is the trick that magazine salesmen do, where they sell you a "free" subscription which starts to cost money after the first issue, and many people either forget or don't bother to cancel it even if they really didn't like the magazine.

All these little tricks and methods of bargaining or selling up that people use, most often without even realizing it, turn against the seller eventually. It's kinda like tipping in a restaurant: there's no reason to tip the waiter if they're already getting paid by the establishment, but the waiter wants more money so they are happy to foster a culture where it is a custom to tip the waiter. At least that's an easier way than going to the boss and asking for a raise. However, as a result, because people tip the waiters, they can accept lower wages from their employers and still make ends meet, who in turn hire people who work for less money, which creates a situation where people -have- to tip the waiters because they're all underpaid. Ooops. Be careful what you ask for.

Compare and contrast with what sort of money people are asking for art on Patreon, because they're expecting their fans to throw them tips anyhow. Oops, the art prices went down because everyone's getting money basically through begging, and everyone's complaining that the prices are too low. Somebody needs to have the balls to start selling properly, no strings attached, no begging on the side - people would find value in that, and the author has more information to go by if people actually buy whatever they're making instead of just throwing them a tip.

Edited at 2019/04/13 04:32:05
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Furrynomous 2019/04/13 22:58:31 No.1576193
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>>1574835
The character being themselves is hotter than any amount of crossdressing in this comic.
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Chatin # MOD # 2019/04/14 02:44:28 No.1576251
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Ok, so, nuked the trans hate, off topic bs, and derailing.

#1 Take your pseudo science bs to discussion.
#2 Keep threads on topic.

I should not be seeing 10+ reports on a single thread people.

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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 10:16:12 No.1576328
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>>1575227

I wanna mention here that I love the dog a lot and you're one of a very few artists that draw chubby guys how I like them. General normal guy and not overly masculine and hairy. Cute fat males aren't seen too often in the furry fandom.

(Sorry, this comment got eaten up by the argument deleting before)

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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 12:07:47 No.1576345
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This is cute. I don't find it particularly sexy, but I like the portrayal of Lewis as a generic chubby guy instead of either a hairy muscle-chub or an overly obese bastard. There aren't a lot of artists that seem to just draw regular chubby guys. Their interactions are also funny and adorable.
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Anon 2019/04/14 13:46:50 No.1576369
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I've seen a lot of cute fat characters in furry comics, usually Japanese ones
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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 16:37:23 No.1576407
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>trans hate
It is called facts, you're not able to pick sites and have no bullshit in this thread. You dont want derailing? K Delete all comments that have to do with it because
> all i see is a beutiful lady
is pure baiting, its baiting and you know it. All i see is a future victim to suicide if he doesnt seek help. The moment reality catches up with trannies and they cant reverse their mutilation is the moment they take their own life. Just accepting that they are this way is like activly killing them. My furry fetish is bullshit too. I never gonna be an antrophonormic animal or get fucked by one. But i accept that. I know its a fun fantasy, but its not real. If i really wanted to become a wolf and not look into myself that it isnt possible, but always lie to myself i would one day off myself too because dep down you KNOW its a lie. Try to help them instead of strenghening their illness. You dont tell a shizoprenic the voices are real either dont you? Becaue for him they are real he is really hearing them, just like a trans thinks he's a she, but it isnt that way. Either you accept the others side opinion or you delete the bait. Everything else is admin abuse. As a figure in a power position you have to remain neutral no matter what your personal opinion is.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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Glopossum, I Swear 2019/04/14 16:58:59 No.1576415
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Hey y'all, I've been checking back in every so often and I gotta say, I really appreciate all the love y'all are channeling! It means a ton and is exactly the type of encouragement that motivates me to keep working on large-scale projects like these. And Lewis appreciates the comments and is probably off blushing somewhere. <3

And just to clarify, being on my Patreon is entirely voluntary and can be subverted with about a month's worth of patience.

I should have a new page for you next week!

Pour one out for the mods for cleaning up the mess here.

Edited at 2019/04/14 19:22:25
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Tinus # MOD # 2019/04/14 17:21:10 No.1576427
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Okay so I have had it with you guys reporting this, I dont know what the fuck is going on here but I wont tollerate it anymore.

#1 NO MORE TRANS HATE
#2 KEEP IT CIVIL
#3 KEEP IT ON TOPIC

Mods discretion will be used. You guys have had one warning already, this is the second one, THER WILL BE NO THIRD!

~Tinus

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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 18:13:00 No.1576466
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>>1576427
I will stay civil and on topic as long as you delete both sides, or let both sides speak. Only letting one side speak is fascism and it makes you look like a hypocrite. It's ok you banned my first post since it derailed but i always will stand up against admin abuse wich is, only letting one site speak.

(Proxy and failed to follow staff instructions.)
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DancingLion 2019/04/14 21:39:56 No.1576589
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>>1575593
Holy... what a nice surprise xD
>>1576415
Aside from the cute and sexy characters, your drawing skills are really solid! Mainly those expressions, so keep the great work, we are rooting for ya!
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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 22:01:16 No.1576597
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Crossdressing and girlyboys aren't my thing. Like at all.
But I like this comic. The story is cute and the characters are well made and personable, and have good interaction.

Thumbs up from me.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/14 22:17:28 No.1576602
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>>1576415

I think I'm in love with Junip. He's such a sweet heart >.<

Also... some other reasons...
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Furrynomous 2019/04/15 06:48:27 No.1576709
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>>1576693
Although your point is true, how about acknowledging the authors good art?
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Furrynomous 2019/04/15 09:30:56 No.1576745
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>being on my Patreon is entirely voluntary and can be subverted with about a month's worth of patience

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

You've made the page, everyone who wanted to pay for it or throw you a dollar anyhow has already done so, so why the hold-up?

The wait is completely unnecessary, artificial, it doesn't make the art any better or your effort to make it any less - it's just there so you would be paid more for the same thing. It's simply to abuse the desperation of people who feel like they can't wait: to extract money by inconveniencing people needlessly.

From this point of view, complaining that the Patreon paywall is leaking is just showing poor character. If anything, the payment model is wrong for the case and if it didn't leak then the people would be paying for a bum deal.

The rule of thumb is, if your business case is based on restricting or taking something away only to return it for money, any form of extortion, then you should probably re-think it. It's easy to get deluded with copyrightable materials because we think about them in terms of physical goods, each of which has to be made. Something like a (digital) comics page isn't re-made for every viewer: it is made, and then it exists, and then hiding it from people to collect money from each and every one is just trying to get paid more, unlimited times, for the same work and the same value. That's not reasonable, not even if you say "well you can easily cheat", because what you're really saying there is just, "the fool will pay".

The trick of making more money honestly is to ask for it. The point is that you're entering into negotiations with your fanbase, and asking them how much they want to pay for your work - instead of using all the tricks in the book to make them pay anyways. The difficulty is in recognizing when you're trying to manipulate people, because we're being manipulated ourselves all the time and it seems like just normal business.

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Furrynomous 2019/04/15 12:29:26 No.1576799
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A-fucking-men. Tho I think that guy honestly doesn't get it for some reason. Hey numbnuts, most people aren't going to pay for something that they already have for free. And fuck your inconvenience of having to wait for new pages if you're not willing to chip in a few dollars. That's all this bullshit is about, you know- a few dollars a month. If you subscribe, then you get everything. How is that not basic business sense? (And don't bother answering that- I don't care.)
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Furrynomous 2019/04/15 20:36:31 No.1576997
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>>1576745
soz dude you are perfectly capable of paying a few dollars to get porn earlier, cuz it's...just porn. no need to get so preachy about it
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Chatin # MOD # 2019/04/15 23:33:49 No.1577023
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>>1576745

I'm sorry, what?

How in the world is an artist putting up a patreon and making their comic a month delayed unless a member... extortion?

"noun: extortion; plural noun: extortions

the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."

"And just to clarify, being on my Patreon is entirely voluntary and can be subverted with about a month's worth of patience."

This is neither through force, or through threats of any kind.

If you don't want to pay for it, are not old enough to, or just want stuff for free just say it... lol

Edited at 2019/04/16 01:45:35
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Furrynomous 2019/04/16 08:48:38 No.1577235
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>>1577023
I like how you completely ignored everything in that dude's post, centered in on one single word out of all that he wrote, and then used the dictionary definition of that word to create an argument for yourself that you could win. All so that you could prove him wrong without actually arguing against anything he said.

He used the word "extortion", yes. But not in that context.
Just like how you used the word "free" in a certain context, but which in dictionary terms means;

"release from captivity, confinement, or slavery."

Which means you acknowledge that the artist his using their art to promote slavery, and how the person you're quoting is in the right for wanting to abolish that slavery. Thus making him in the right and you in the wrong for supporting slavery.


See how easy it is to paint yourself as a hero of truth and justice when you start whipping out dictionaries to invent arguments you can win?
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Chatin # MOD # 2019/04/17 02:01:27 No.1577634
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Went straight for the verb meaning eh? Didn't like the adverb meaning? Adjective? /sarcasm

Honestly my point was the guy is throwing a fit over the artist going to patreon. The artist clearly states that 99% of their income comes from their art, so I don't see a damn thing wrong with them making the comic pay to view first.

The guy is blowing it out of proportion and going off the deep end for no reason.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/17 07:28:21 No.1577701
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Is the here issue that patrons have to wait a month before they get content? If it is, it's not the best practice. Plenty of artists give content immediately, and even if you sign up, get the content you want, and immediately delete the pledge, you still have to pay what you signed up for. I've pledged to people for specific things before and it charges you even if you're only a patron for ten minutes.

Edited at 2019/04/17 07:28:39
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Furrynomous 2019/04/17 09:28:28 No.1577754
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It's fucking depressing that we rarely get the actual artists making comments here, and when we do the threads explode into angry manchildren.
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Drift # ADMIN # 2019/04/17 11:18:25 No.1577869
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Stay on topic
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Furrynomous 2019/04/18 12:23:40 No.1578282
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I don suppose we'll be seeing the new pages anytime soon?
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Furrynomous 2019/04/19 04:19:27 No.1578610
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(Gah. I should have mentioned. Page 21 was publicly released on FA. Please don't post Patreon pages. She's only asking $2 a month.)
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Furrynomous 2019/04/19 08:00:57 No.1578665
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>most people aren't going to pay for something that they already have for free

That's the point.

Consider: people have subscribed to the patreon for the month and given their tips, so the guy would work and make them the next page, or whatever the deal happens to be. The work is essentially paid in advance, and once completed, it exists - for everyone. It doesn't need to be paid again, and it shouldn't be paid again because that wasn't part of the deal made with the people who agreed to pay. They would be cheated because you already agreed to work for a price, and more payers appearing later should be sharing the cost, not adding to the reward.

What happens is, the work is put on a delay (presuming it doesn't leak from the site) so other people would have to pay or wait because it is being held back from them. The people who are sitting on the fence of pay/not-pay are being pushed into paying by artificial inconvenience and that's a form of extortion. The seller is using a tactic that attempts to distort the market in their favor.

The reason why this is unwise is because the customers who are fooled this way into overcompensating the seller take their money away from the market and can't pay someone else with it. When everyone uses these tactics, no seller actually wins any more than they would without because they're competing over the same customers. Some other thief already picked their pockets. The only effect is that the (potential) customers are inconvenienced over it and may even turn away completely.

But, what ends up happening is, people share the pages anyways and the patreon paywall leaks, so the tactic doesn't work for that reason either. The more you try to enforce it, the more it just turns into another case of SexyFur where people actively go out of their way to share the pictures. In fact it never had anything more than a slight psychological nudge effect, so there's no point in worrying about it. You won't lose any income in just accepting reality.

Edited at 2019/04/19 08:32:53
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Furrynomous 2019/04/19 09:20:37 No.1578697
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Then there's also the third hazard: people do see what you're doing and will decide accordingly.

When your customers see that you're pulling in cash from other people and places, they will value the work lower and refuse to pay. After all, this is about your minimum price: how much do people have to pay you for the work. When people see that you're already getting it from other sources, adding more won't make any difference: you'll still do the work, so why should they pay?

This is why Patreon recently made it possible for sellers to hide their income or the amounts paid by the patrons, so your subscribers wouldn't be able to check if they're actually giving money to a rich beggar.
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Furrynomous 2019/04/19 09:58:07 No.1578705
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