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Furrynomous 2023/07/13 16:20:09 No.2319943
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Seeing the Spanish surname of this comic's writer, I go back and re-read all the ruckus from Falco and Leon in Spanish, in-character, and it's wonderful.
"Te Mueves, pinche gecko!"
"Mueves primera, paloma mierda!"
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Furrynomous 2023/07/13 20:25:46 No.2320047
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No, it's not.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/14 20:53:37 No.2320425
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It's me or Wolf looks too old in this comic?
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Furrynomous 2023/07/14 21:02:58 No.2320429
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He does, maybe becajse of the mostache.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 03:08:43 No.2320552
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Fun fact: though it doesn't really show in his game models, Imamura Takaya clarified that Wolf is supposed to be from the same generation as Peppy (and, by extension, Pigma and James), which makes him a 40-something in 64 and a 50-something in Assault.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 06:25:17 No.2320568
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No such thing as too old, greymuzzles need love too.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 14:16:37 No.2320697
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That's before Zero however. He's 27 and fox is 25 in the new continuity.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 15:38:31 No.2320722
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That explains why he looks younger in Smash.

Tough you know Krystal and Panther does not exists in the new continuity (aside a cameo on Smash Bros Ultimate), and Panther it's here so Guess this is old one.

But yeah, I just wish Wolf would had a design similar to the Wolf of SoraWolf comic, as I said Wolf looks too old for me, but it's just my opinion and if someone likes his design then perfect.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/15 15:59:31 No.2320723
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What's the source for this? Zero was still under Imamura, and that tweet was from earlier this year.

Zero didn't rewrite much of anything, except reinserting lore present in the 64 japanese manual with the teleportation device. Plus it's not a reboot.

If the source is Arwingpedia, that "27" years old comes from a 64 fansite which gives pretty much headcanon backstories and unofficial ages to every character. A lot of the Wiki is false info taken from fan sources or semi-official sources (game magazines) interpreted in a weird way, and parroting that shaky info is what likely gave us "galactic conqueror" Wolf.

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Furrynomous 2023/07/16 04:25:33 No.2320911
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Starfox canon in general is just shaky as fuck.

Easier to just let artists do whatever they want.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/16 06:38:33 No.2320931
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yeah, everything I read about star fox lore tends to contradict itself because nintendo doesn't care about it enough to give it an established canon. honestly, nintendo isn't really known for even *doing* established canon that spans more than two games in established franchises, Zelda being a good example. yeah, the Zelda book does its best to tie it all together, but it even mentions at the beginning that it's all subject to change over time and to not take it as set in stone.

anyway,

tl;dr: I said all that because I just wanna iterate my love for grey muzzle wolf o'donnell. star fox canon be shaky, so whatever people want for it basically goes as long as the general rivalry between wolf and fox exists in some capacity
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Furrynomous 2023/07/16 09:08:17 No.2320997
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Leaving aside the reimagining that has been a reocurring issue with the franchise (64 is a reimagining of 1 and Zero is the same for 64), many of those contradictions are actually a case of poor localizations and broken phone games between Nintendo in Japan and the people in the West, and then fans over here adding some and creating further confusion, with the most blatant cases being things like the characters' ages and Krystal's backstory. In the latter's case, Rare left some stuff about her planet and family in Adventures's manual, whereas, as far as Nintendo is concerned, she's just an enigmatic blue vixen that came to aid Sauria. As for the characters' ages, you can easily tell them for the main team as long as you take Farewell Beloved Falco into account, as it spells out their ages and it has a very clear timeline (4 years after 64, 4 before Adventures).

The overriding lore of Star Fox has been fairly consistent in Japan and there's many details that didn't leave the country for years because they were not translated from the manuals (particularly 64's), or were pretty much relegated to interviews with the main devs, or were obvious to the Japanese but not to foreigners, which is the case of things like Wolf's rivalry with James and James's enormous loan to acquire the Great Fox (64 manual), Fox's mom being alive (interview with Imamura), Falco's species (he's a pheasant) or Wolf's exact age range (someone directly asked Imamura on Twitter!). And then there's important bits of canon, like Farewell Beloved Falco, that most fans don't seem very familiar with because they only existed in fan translations instead of being bundled with Adventures like it happened in Japan.

You can say that the games could do a better job of integrating those things or that there isn't a lot of lore in general because Nintendo has always cared more about the gameplay, but, as far as the Japanese side of things is concerned, you can't accuse Star Fox of not having lore, or of having particularly inconsistent lore.

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Furrynomous 2023/07/16 16:03:11 No.2321171
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Oh, well that's interesting! Thanks for sharing
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StarStruck Furrynomous 2023/07/27 13:21:42 No.2325063
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Furrynomous 2023/07/30 01:49:57 No.2326224
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Wolf's "rivalry" with James isn't a thing. Literally, the only thing that's known is "they had history together" and that's it.
Literally pointless bits. For all you know, he could be his babysitter or mentor when he left the academy or whatever.
SF "lore" is so horrendous, these comics do a better job than Miyamoto.
64 + Assault remain the only two decent bits of SF plot and character progression to this day. Literally nothing else matters because it's a fucking mess.
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Furrynomous 2023/07/30 02:07:46 No.2326237
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Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/y8cwc9/finally_got_around_to_doing_translations/

>On the surface, it appears that the squad was formed by Wolf, who previously had a feud with James McCloud, as a rival to Star Fox.

Miyamoto isn't even the main driving force behind Star Fox's setting, that's Imamura Takaya, the series producer and occassionaly the main artist, and as I said, as far as Japan is concerned, Star Fox has a fairly consistent internal history and characterizations (with the main gaffes coming from poor localization choices or outright mistakes). You're also ignoring "Farewell Beloved Falco", which was written by Imamura and does a great job at characterizing the main team plus Katt.

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Furrynomous 2023/07/30 02:36:25 No.2326241
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Gosh that fuzzy Wolf oh baby
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Furrynomous 2023/08/01 01:57:12 No.2327030
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They were never rivals.
It's literally what I said. They have some history.
It literally tells you there too. Because of his past relationship (with James) he is now rivals WITH HIS SON (Fox).
He's not 20 years older than Fox.
So yeah, for all you know, he could have admired James, then decided to outdo him and so he became rivals with Fox.
A feud with James could be as simple as James not letting him use experimental tech (Wolfens). You have to remember that Wolf has some petty tendencies.
So there you go lmfao

Also yes I know Miyamoto isn't the only one. Doesn't help the inconsistencies and very all over the place writing.
64 and Assault are the only ones that make sense and show actual fucking growth on both sides. Wolf becoming more of an anti-hero could easily be connected to James too and seeing that he was wrong by being petty, blah blah.
But yeah, that will never happen now because of Miyamoto. That's what I mean.
The fans do a better job than them.

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Furrynomous 2023/08/01 07:53:22 No.2327076
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I should've learned my lesson about arguing in a fandom that's mostly made up of Krystal simps or Wolf simps, but it's fun seeing you people weaseling your way out of anything that could paint your beloved sex icons in a bad light (if anything, Assault's second half is the truly inconsistent part of the franchise, but there's no use in saying why lol).

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Furrynomous 2023/08/02 07:39:30 No.2327625
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>He's not 20 years older than Fox

The head creative of Star Fox, who's behind everything you read translated in that Reddit post, said in a Japanese tweet that Wolf is part of the same generation as James and Peppy, so he'd be AT LEAST 20 years older.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/117vn2q/wolfs_age_range_unofficially_confirmed_by_takaya/

https://twitter.com/ima_1966/status/1491699675074039813

That's certainly more official than the 27 years old that comes the buttfuck out of nowhere.
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Furrynomous 2023/08/02 09:07:47 No.2327644
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If its not in an official medium on a multiple creative medium, it can be written off as a personal canon of that one person on the project. Hell even single creator projects if it's not in the official medium, it can be safely taken as suggestion rather then canon, in not quite death of the author but near by idea.
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StarStruck Furrynomous 2023/08/08 14:30:06 No.2330384
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Furrynomous 2023/08/09 07:34:48 No.2330714
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Making shit up and headcanoning your way to make them look worse than they are isn't really winning any of you any credibility.
The games literally contradict this idiotic "same gen as Peppy and James" shit. Hell, Peppy is OLDER than James. So this very thing just proved that you're going with your headcanon which came out of buttfuck nowhere. Especially Star Fox 64. Nobody can tell me Wolf's some 40 year old when Fox is 18 there. He's not that old. So yes, it's just the dev's headcanon, nothing else.
Here's a reminder for you: Star Fox isn't only one guy's thing. You brought it up yourself. So that one guy can say that, but the other clearly doesn't see it that way. Otherwise, Wolf would be unfit to fly during Command.
I know my shit. Been a fan of the franchise since the beginning.
Nice try though.

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Furrynomous 2023/08/10 01:39:56 No.2331047
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Omg who the hell cares. Just enjoy Fox coming out on top with Wolf like he always does in the game.
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Furrynomous 2023/08/10 05:55:03 No.2331083
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Why yes, Falco's balls-deep up that lizard butt. And not without any great effort or resistance it seems.
See what you all miss by being pedantic?
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Furrynomous 2023/10/22 18:17:41 No.2344319
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To be in Fox’s shoes would be amazing
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Furrynomous 2023/12/11 00:20:51 No.2352750
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any updates on this?
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The first 7 pages in HD
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The first 7 pages in HD
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