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Blackgate Furrynomous 2018/01/31 19:32:33 No.1384291

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Blackgate thread, number five. Updates are at the end of every month.

Download new releases and support the project here: https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame

And check out the wiki here: http://blackgate.wikia.com/

Blackgate can also be found on social media at: https://twitter.com/blackgate_vn for the game + the creator's personal account (Bane!) is https://twitter.com/mytruebane
Edited at 2018/01/31 19:40:00

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Furrynomous 2018/01/31 19:35:28 No.1384293

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Hopefully it stays here this time.

Flux Yiff 2018/01/31 23:50:59 No.1384427

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is the thumbnail pic actually in the game or fanart?

Furrynomous 2018/02/01 00:50:38 No.1384441

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>>1384427
it's CG from the game

Furrynomous 2018/02/01 02:24:03 No.1384505

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Has Bane gotten his shit together?

Furrynomous 2018/02/01 02:28:45 No.1384506

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>>1384505
hmm... well it's recovering to say the least.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/02/01 03:22:10 No.1384525

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>>1384505
What anon above said. There have been some encouraging steps. He still does release two updates at the end of the month when he could do kust one, really.
But, you know, progress. Last Eterni update was not that bad. There STILL were some blatant flaws, but things are slowly improving.

Furrynomous 2018/02/01 06:28:07 No.1384577

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>>1384505
Honestly just look at the latest updates. Gruff's route still has this ridiculous crap where background sounds (ie the shower) keep playing which makes it unbearable for me to seriously go through. And Malo was just a slight rewrite of some existing stuff... like what? I swear Bane is acting like an intern who's googling random shit just to appear busy.

Furrynomous 2018/02/01 19:42:05 No.1384938

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But guys, we got new background "art" lol I'm still kinda impressed he's got the balls to do this shit. An error-filled Gruff update meaning he didn't even bother to play through it and practically a non-update for Malo a few hours later. And for some reason the patrons are confused in the comments. I guess if you manage to keep 400+ patrons after pulling the same stunt over and over again you can basically do anything you want at this point.

Furrynomous 2018/02/02 16:53:32 No.1385455

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, just cuz they lose some or quite a bit activity that's no reason to move them. They should only be moved when they're complete or cancelled...not only is it easy access during development but it also let's people know that it's still being worked on

Furrynomous 2018/02/02 22:26:13 No.1385604

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Are there any high resolution version of the CGs?

Furrynomous 2018/02/02 22:59:09 No.1385619

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>>1384577
i was hoping that Gruff's night 8 would be finished, but apparently not. Also, that shower sound glitch really takes away any immersion of night 8.

>>1384938
what new background art? from what i've played nothing seemed different.

Furrynomous 2018/02/03 13:56:27 No.1385930

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Didn't the artist for this quit like 11 months ago? I haven't been keeping up.

Furrynomous 2018/02/03 19:15:13 No.1386240

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>number of patrons keeps dropping
wow, what went wrong?

Furrynomous 2018/02/03 20:33:10 No.1386361

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If this goes tits up I hope it doesn't affect Echo and Aego. I really hope Bane can get things back on track.

Furrynomous 2018/02/03 22:06:26 No.1386393

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>>1385930
the sprite artist up and left? really? I honestly don't blame him. I won't be surprised if DG jumped the ship as well.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/02/04 03:42:59 No.1386481

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>>1386393
DG did not need to jump the ship, he never worked at the project full-time. It's more like Bane commissioned him all the CGs, but one at a time.
Mr. E... I have no idea. Cause, ya'know I've got no clue who he actually is.

Vic Venom 2018/02/04 04:16:55 No.1386484

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>>1386240
Updates that are over in less than 5 minutes.
Updates that only add a background. (Malo lately)
Updates that outright REMOVE content. (Alin's sex scene)
Updates that are filled with errors. (pretty much every update)
Updates that are only minor grammar & spellcheck.
Updates that are released one day away from the other.
Updates where he boasts about writing 4k words when I know some VN writers write that amount in less than 4 hours, when they're not especially inspired.
Promises that Blackgate will go darker, stronger, blablabla from 6 months ago, and so far, not delivering it.
Not knowing what the ending will be like. (and if he did, why is the progress so slow?)
Screwing over some characters by not giving them updates for over a year, while others (like Police route) are getting "updates" galore.
What are the perks of being a 10$ or + Patron again?

Most, if not all of these have been happening for 2 years. TWO YEARS, I'm surprised he's not down to 1000$.
Why is Echo doing less well again?

Edited at 2018/02/04 04:18:11

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 07:17:55 No.1386537

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>>1386484

What's that about Echo? It's doing extremely well.

Vic Venom 2018/02/04 09:10:35 No.1386666

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>>1386537
I said "less well" for a reason.

Echo gains 1.55k per update, knowing he releases one per month, and all usually lasting between 30 minutes and an hour and a half. Also the creator has the decency to take a break every once in a while and be truthful to his patrons. Same for Repeat, which is gaining roughly the same amount, and for the Repeat VN, the creator does everything by himself.

Blackgate's still hitting 2.1k per update, knowing he releases two per month (some are double charged), and all usually lasting between 5 and 15 minutes. Some last longer, but as we've seen with Malo or Alin, others are shorter because it's just for a background change, or it's flat out removing content. The Patreon Characters (at least one or two of them still paying 100$ a month) are getting the short end of the stick, especially Eterni, and I forgot to mention the copy/paste content between routes.

That's insane.

Had Blackgate as a project just started with the creator pulling that kind of stunt, no way it would've gotten over 100$ per update, let alone over 2000$. Am sure the new patrons are a bunch of people who were pleased by the base game, or joined the bandwagon cause "Darkgem" or something, but they have no freakin' idea about the meager progress, how is this worth defending?

That stunt's been going on for 2 years now, it's hilarious how Echo started a year after Blackgate and yet is closer to completion as far as story goes.

Edited at 2018/02/04 09:13:28

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 09:44:06 No.1386689

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>>1386484
>>1386666
Holy shit, this is some damage control hidden in plain sight

Vic Venom 2018/02/04 10:26:07 No.1386706

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>>1386689
"Damage control" even though both my messages were about the same subject and it was the same argument; Blackgate stagnating as a project, while I explained in the second message that I meant Echo was doing "less well" as a comparison with Blackgate (as opposed to an absolute like "doing extremely well"), and it obviously didn't mean anyway that Echo was doing "not well" for itself.

How about you explain how this is "damage control", cause I don't think you even followed that well to begin with, or know what that term means.

Edited at 2018/02/04 10:29:25

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 10:35:33 No.1386711

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>>1386706
I was talking about blackgate, dumb venom

Vic Venom 2018/02/04 10:49:13 No.1386714

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>>1386689
Ah okay, um, sorry, I guess?

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 11:07:51 No.1386725

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>>1386714
Geez, no worries. I am sorry too, maybe the way I said is misunderstood easily.

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 15:05:58 No.1386844

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>>1386706
>>1386666

I picked that up wrong. I thought you were saying that Echo isnt't doing well, rather than asking why it hasn't overtaken Blackgate.

Furrynomous 2018/02/04 19:07:55 No.1387006

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I just realised that Blackgate has lost $1,000 in six months. It's at half of what it was two year ago. One of the construction route backers is also no longer a Patron. If this keeps going down hill, it might not be a bad idea for Echo and Aego to go independent.

McSkinny 2018/02/04 20:49:27 No.1387030

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>>1387006

There's no formal contract between the developers of Echo, Laika Dosha, and Blackgate, as far as I've been told (not sure about Project Aego). HTBH Games isn't an official thing, as of yet. Blackgate was immensely inspirational for Laika Dosha, Echo, and Project Aego, however.

For example, originally Echo was intended to tie in a lot more with the world of Blackgate.

Furrynomous 2018/02/05 12:50:03 No.1387259

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>>1387030

I think Aego has the same deal. It was set up independently and then came under the HTBH name, IIRC.

By the way, how much did Blackgate influence Echo? How was it supposed to tie in, and why was that concept dropped? After the most recent Echo update, I'm seeing similarities between the Blackgate Eternal and the Echo evil.

>>1384525

I think his main issue is that he's doing too much himself. He needs to divide the work, including the writing and coding, between multiple people. You can't make a game as large as Blackgate on the work of (Primarily) one individual.

Furrynomous 2018/02/05 13:05:25 No.1387267

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>>1387259
>he's doing too much himself
>too much
effort in the updates are barely existent, dev are basically riding on the gravy train from gullible patrons

Vic Venom 2018/02/05 13:36:28 No.1387293

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>>1387259
I thought he just did the writing, and let his team do the coding. Even then, coding & writing isn't and shouldn't be that hard after 4 years.

Most VN writers do their coding on their own. And some even do everything from writing to art assets & CGs like Shirokoi, and I don't see Shirokoi making 5 minutes long updates.

If he does code, then after 4 years it REALLY should be effortless, the basics of coding on Renpy are mastered in a matter of days, and it's very obvious Blackgate isn't a complex game coding wise.

Nah, stopping coding wouldn't change anything, it's clear he either has been on a writer's block for 2 years, or he's basically putting the bare minimum to make Blackgate a reliable source of income in the long term, instead of making progress & actually finishing the game. That or it's the team's choice, I dunno.

McSkinny 2018/02/05 13:58:32 No.1387307

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>>1387259

Well, as some of you folks may recall, Echo's original name was Blackgate's Project B, then Project Echo, then just Echo. As for the nature of the tie-in and whether it has been completely ruled out, that is hush-hush. We'll just have to see how it goes :) .

It is heartening to see that there is such an audience for something as niche as gay furry sci-fi/horror visual novels. Without Blackgate, many of us folk wouldn't have known that there were people out there who were interested in these sort of stories we wanted to tell.

Furrynomous 2018/02/05 14:08:12 No.1387309

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>>1384577
>>1385619

It's easily fixable by adding:

stop nature
play nature "FX Rain.mp3"

after mm "I'd rather not. I don't take pride in defending this town." (line 420) in Blackgate-0.xx\game\01_07.0_Officer Gruff Night 7.rpy

Furrynomous 2018/02/05 14:10:52 No.1387311

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>>1387307

References are good. I particularly liked the references to the Blackgate country theme and Hunter's Bar in Route 65. At the time same time, though, be careful about tying it in too much. When I play both games, they really feel like their own separate universes.

Furrynomous 2018/02/25 17:02:36 No.1397448

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These threads used to be so active.

Furrynomous 2018/02/25 17:05:46 No.1397449

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>>1397448
it happens when a project collapses it could have been something great. but bane dropped the ball hard

Furrynomous 2018/02/25 22:11:11 No.1397555

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I really hope he manages to salvage this someday. It was off to such a good start and once things became difficult for him I think the pressure from the early success really destroyed him. I guess if people are willing to keep paying I can't really blame him for carrying on as he is, but if he just lets it completely die out like this then he'll have to do something pretty substantial to get people back on the project once he finally starts making quality updates again.

I really wish he had gotten some people to help him somehow, or something. I don't know. Even during the start of the project the updates were filled with spelling errors and copypasting, I'd hoped it would go away eventually but it never did. He needed an editor/someone to help him write in general. Or a more thorough plan. I don't know, the setting is so interesting it's a real shame.

Furrynomous 2018/03/01 18:56:36 No.1399647

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The double updates are out. They seem to be as rushed as ever.

EDIT: Yo, what's up with some of these threads not bumping? Are there some blacklisted words that I'm not aware of?

Edited at 2018/03/01 18:58:57

Furrynomous 2018/03/01 19:11:37 No.1399655

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I think I understand what caused it. Mods/Admins, pls. Is this really necessary?

EDIT: Yep. Pretty sure having the word "update" in a post keeps it from bumping a thread.

Edited at 2018/03/01 19:14:53

Furrynomous 2018/03/02 20:16:34 No.1400226

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Was anything new in the recent release?

Furrynomous 2018/03/03 19:40:57 No.1400680

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>>1400226
I think the scene where the MC can suck off Jack is new but I'm not 100% sure. The update seems to be almost entirely a rewrite, though.

With Gruff I'm honestly not sure. Bane might've fucked something up.

Edited at 2018/03/03 19:41:35

Furrynomous 2018/03/05 01:22:51 No.1401199

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I'm trying to figure out Krane route. I know there's was an update where he survive and reach the blackgate. Yet can find it. Any help?

Furrynomous 2018/03/05 23:06:07 No.1401790

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>>1401199
Spoiler

>>1402962
edit: busy atm. i can help you get gruff's scene within 24 hours unless someone got it before me. if i recall, there was one main decision halfway through where you took Gruff home after being poisoned, but i may be wrong.

Edited at 2018/03/07 06:08:37

Furrynomous 2018/03/07 03:13:34 No.1402962

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So... I wanna jerk Gruff off, but can't seem to get the scene.
Help?

Furrynomous 2018/03/07 10:55:01 No.1403096

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Why on earth is nearly every single line of text either misspelled, filled with grammatical errors, or just stupidly awkward? Is Bane illiterate or something?

Furrynomous 2018/03/07 11:08:13 No.1403124

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>>1403096
See, I always thought the weakest element was the writing, even after the editing passes. It is too bad since the story was decent and the characters actually had pretty strong voices.

Edited at 2018/03/07 11:08:56

Furrynomous 2018/03/08 04:18:19 No.1403501

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>>1402962
Ok. I got some time, so here's what I did.
Spoiler

Furrynomous 2018/04/18 14:01:43 No.1423012

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>>1386484
>Updates where he boasts about writing 4k words when I know some VN writers write that amount in less than 4 hours, when they're not especially inspired.

Wow, which VN there's a guy like that? That's something I wanna know.

Asuranikandan 2018/04/18 17:34:53 No.1423075

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>>1386484
A shoutout to DyneWulf as well, that guy literally spews a few sentences and calls it an update.

Furrynomous 2018/04/18 18:12:14 No.1423084

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>>1423012

I just did a test. 4k words is about 5 pages of single spaced, 11 font text. Writing that much in less than 4 hours is not that impressive. Much less for a VN that people are actually paying for.

That being said, rather than the quantity, quality of the writing is more important, especially in a visual novel where you can use the background images to convey large parts of the story with minimal text. VN's like Fate Stay Night really show how you can use the visual/audio aspects of the medium to add a lot of action and bring life to the story that the writing really couldn't do by itself.

The problem with Blackgate is that the writing was just never that good and Bane never did anything really inspired with the medium. It utterly failed to get me invested in either the story or any of the characters (several of which feel like they were just copy/pasted from each other). I ended up just skimming most of the story until I got to all the sex scenes that were at least decent.

Furrynomous 2018/04/19 09:38:48 No.1423277

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>>1423084
Personally Bane should just give this to the ehcoes team, not only that echos have amazing writing and well developed characters i feel like the theme of blackgate would be right up the echos' developer's alley. But as it is right now, i cannot really enjoy the story nor the characters heck, the best written characters (Which is Krane, and Gruff) fail to entice me anymore.

>>1423075
Dyne really puts love into his work, EA which i honestly thought was just gonna be cheap fap material ended up blowing my expectations of the game out of the water, and when he says he's gonna do something. He does it. Sadly, BG is just a glorified fap folder with dialogue

Vic Venom 2018/04/19 10:17:19 No.1423287

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>>1423075
Dyne's shortest (writing) update is still twice of everything Bane has written ever since the beginning of the year.

Blackgate's last two updates are both, respectively, 200 & 50 lines long.
One recent Malo update was just a background image change.
For comparison sake, Dyne averages at around 2000 lines per update. Sometimes less, sometimes (much) more. Now his pace got slower cause of recoding the game, yet he's still writing more than Bane.

While Dyne literally can not go any faster cause he's recoding the entire game on his own, Bane does less than the bare minimum, has a bunch of people behind him, and still gets away with it.

Edited at 2018/04/19 10:22:26

Furrynomous 2018/05/13 23:19:26 No.1435321

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So, is this project still dead?

Furrynomous 2018/05/14 01:12:23 No.1435363

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>>1435321
Did you not check the game's patreon? It updates at the end of the month.

https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame

I mean... yes. hardly any progress. bane is still catching up on work

Edited at 2018/05/14 03:07:29

Furrynomous 2018/05/14 07:18:58 No.1435495

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I have absolutely no hope that this will ever finish even a single route.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/05/14 10:36:12 No.1435584

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>>1435495
Even less likely when he publishes fake updates: Eterni's update is literally nothing. Night 6 file is not even there.

Furrynomous 2018/05/14 15:08:35 No.1435748

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>>1435584
and yet he still has almost 2k in pledges, making 3+ thousand dollars every month with double updates while other visual novels that publish tons more content every month don't have a third of that.

Furrynomous 2018/05/14 16:47:35 No.1435820

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>>1435748

I suspect shenanigans. That backer number and $ amount are almost certainly artificially inlfated.

I'm honestly kind of surprised he hasn't been reported and kicked off of Patreon for his fake non-updates, which I would call theft if people weren't to blame for willingly continuing to fork over their $ to a known con artist.

Definitely sucks to say, because I believed in, cared about, and contributed to this project once upon a time.

Furrynomous 2018/05/15 06:42:01 No.1436223

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>>1435820
Now that it's being mentioned, is there any way to directly complain to Patreon about that? Do they care? I mean surely, if Patreon requires any sort of 'minimum effort' to be put into an update that patrons are charged for, Bane barely has to be on it at best or even below it with some of the recent non-updates he's done.
So is there any point in contacting them over it? If so, how?

Furrynomous 2018/05/19 11:59:12 No.1437980

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>>1436223
The game was abandoned?

Furrynomous 2018/05/19 14:44:19 No.1438024

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>>1437980
In a manner of speech. Bane has been merely copy-pasting content from one route to another and even then he still makes updates that are consistently less than five minutes. The last update was literally NOTHING. There was absolutely nothing new in the game but he still made an "update" so he could double charge his patrons and get more money.

This has been going for well over a year and yet people are still supporting him. Updates that consist of nothing but a single new background, two minutes of copy-pasted content from another route or absolutely nothing.

So, yeah, it really depends on your point of view but at this point you might as well consider it abandoned. The only difference is that he's still charging people for it.

Furrynomous 2018/05/19 18:26:25 No.1438104

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>>1437980
Updates have been increasingly poor for like 2 years or something by now, but the last 6 months really take the cake. It's one thing to have shit updates, but updates that contain virtually nothing new and even have people ask if there is anything new IN THE COMMENTS are just abuse of Patreon. Sadly, I haven't found a way to properly report this on the site itself, so I guess I'll have to accept that this is ok for Patreon for whatever reason. I doubt there are enough people to bother them on social media about it for them to take it seriously.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/05/23 11:15:05 No.1440129

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>>1435820
I am starting to think you're right. When I pointed out that there was absolutely no new content in Eterni's "update", the comments got flooded by people fawning over Krane. Talk about coincidence, huh?

Furrynomous 2018/05/23 12:48:09 No.1440238

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>>1440129
There are also tons of smaller projects for 3d porn of "busty women" who post on updates with stuff like "Neat" or "Incredible" or "Amazing" just so people would open their page and maybe pledge to them. I doubt many comments nowadays are from actual patrons interested in playing because, let's be honest, there is no content play.

Furrynomous 2018/06/27 05:53:35 No.1458179

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Patreon doesn't seem very reliable to be honest, it's all a matter on how much you trust the team, that's what determines if it should be supported

Sure constant updates are good but if those aren't anything special then one with few updates with more done comes out looking better. There's more work done but the lack of updates put people off. You just gotta pick and choose your stance

Furrynomous 2018/06/30 23:06:32 No.1459934

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Well, this is interesting...

It seems like the past two months, only one of the two updates have any actual content updating.

There are no updates to the Vekk/Andras route which were promised in 0.91, and no updates to the Gruff route which were promised in 0.93. You can use the compare plugin with Notepad++ to see for yourself, if you still have the older Blackgate update files.

SAD!!

Furrynomous 2018/07/01 01:34:48 No.1459998

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At this point I even doubt if this is him being lazy. Most likely Bane is a NEET now and ending his own cashflow would be disastrous. So he milks it as long as he can, since starting a new project after this one would be impossible with his reputation El Ou El.

Furrynomous 2018/07/15 01:44:34 No.1466480

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>>1459998
I thought he had a day job as some chemistry lab technician or something like that. I hope he's not a NEET because that would make his lack of effort on Blackgate even worse.

What happened with him on LoL?

Furrynomous 2018/07/15 18:08:52 No.1466822

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His inaction is clearly a result of his depression. However, instead of getting help, he seems to be sinking further into it. I know how badly criticism can knock you when you're working on something while also having depression, but at the end of the day, criticism is good. He needs to take what people have said on board, sort himself out, apologise for fucking up, and get the game done.

Furrynomous 2018/07/15 23:51:31 No.1466955

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>>1466822
The problem is that Bane has apologized before, said he would do better, and fucked up even worse than before. It's one thing to be inactive due to depression or whatever, which I would understand. The problem is that he's ripping people off. Other projects (Echo) have suspended uploading when they are in a creative rut, and return with good quality updates. Bane has been charging for two updates literally within hours of eachother, and only one of those updates actually has new content. And the content of the one update is minimal, only a fraction of what his older updates contained.

Also, the funny thing is that nobody was really complaining about the story. People were supportive (the peak Patreon pledges were around $4000 per update!) and the criticism was only about the grammar and other minor things. Furries are forgiving and easy to please. He fucked it all up by cheating them, and even his long term supporters (Crome, Eterni, Malo) couldn't deny it any longer. The project is stuck around the halfway point and at this rate (4+ years) I doubt he will ever finish it. Echo already has completed routes with a greater word count and it's several years newer.

I really don't want this project to fail. I've invested enough money into it, well over $200, and I want to see how it ends. I like the overall setting, the characters, etc. This was Bane's one shot to make a name for himself. Few creators have ever had such a blessing, a chance to make something of themselves, with top notch talent (darkgem, an editor, marketing team, forum panels) and he's throwing it away. Had he kept delivering quality updates and finished the project by now, he would have earned more money since 4k+ per update is over twice what he makes in one month now, and everybody would have been happy. I don't see how he can remain part of the furry community if this dies, because he will always be associated with ripping people off and failing.

Furrynomous 2018/07/16 02:15:27 No.1466992

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>>1466955
Almost everyone left the boat as far as talent goes, and aren't editors supposed to do all the spellchecking & grammar checking? It hasn't gone any better lately.

For some reason, I completely expect Bane to just live off a dead Patreon and a part time job just to have the bare minimum to do.
None of these updates should've taken him more than 30 minutes to write & code, if he even does the coding at all.
That's a quick buck, and he might not get buttloads of money anymore (though it never really stayed at 4k), but 1.7k$ is still well enough to live (I don't know if they share by this point).

And I think by extending the project, he's making more than he would've if he had finished the project normally.
Cause what next? You have to write for another VN or even a sequel, and I'm pretty sure if Bane isn't being a lazy ass just to get easy money, he's just so creatively bankrupt he's afraid what might happen if he finishes Blackgate is that he won't be able to start another project and get the same amount of easy money, because it won't have Blackgate's base content to cover his ass.

Any amount of apologies shouldn't bring anyone back, but we're talking about furries, sooooo it's still entirely possible he might get back on his feet.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/07/16 06:22:26 No.1467053

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>>1466822
>clearly a result of depression

No it isn't, considering that he's merrily ripping off his patrons twice per month with no sign of regret whatsoever.

Also there's a party going on in the comment section on Patreon (whose asinine rules prevent you from reporting this fraud, incidentally).

Furrynomous 2018/07/16 06:46:32 No.1467060

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> Here, another update ;) *literally give file with no update*
> Comment "why i can't find anything new?
> Patreon comment: ohh, bane must've been forgot, i'm sure he will fix it

repeat every month

Furrynomous 2018/07/16 09:20:59 No.1467110

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>>1467060

A fool and his money are easily parted.

Bertran 2018/07/21 06:28:07 No.1469525

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Still no something good? Just a useless updates, really? Author said anything about it, maybe... at least?

Furrynomous 2018/07/21 10:46:14 No.1469595

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I will never get to fuck the mothman.
What a shame.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/07/21 11:17:35 No.1469603

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>>1469525
Nothing. He won't reply to private messages either. The nerve on some people...

Furrynomous 2018/07/21 16:06:19 No.1469686

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>>1469603
People are still throwing money at him for free. Not a whole lot of incentive for him to change behavior, unfortunately.

Furrynomous 2018/07/31 10:20:58 No.1473850

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>>1469595
I know that feel, bro

Furrynomous 2018/07/31 13:30:56 No.1473903

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>>1467053
>>1469686
WTF. Just how naive furries can be. I though this was dead by a long time and people stopped throwing money in the trash. The fandom is doing it to themselves by enabling this... kind of thing.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/07/31 15:47:22 No.1473945

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>>1473903
Also, it's the end of the month! Let's see what lies Bane has in store for us this time. I'm almost curious. Who will get the fake updates? I feel so disgusted right now.

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 12:58:28 No.1474323

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>>1473945
So uhh... what's the verdict?

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/08/01 14:44:25 No.1474351

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>>1474323
Krane and Gruff were updated, I haven't checked the game files yet. At this point I equally dislike both, since they seem the only ones to get legit updates (sometimes).
I mean, it's Bane's VN. He's biased towards emo-bat and sue-boar? Fine, just stop pretending you give a crap about the other characters. Might as well re-name the project and call it Batgate or Gruffgate

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 16:26:05 No.1474381

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>>1469595
Maybe if you bother him enough about him he'll make a route. But that's a hard maybe.

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 17:08:10 No.1474396

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>>1474351
let him do that, there are like... what, 11 route? if he keep updating 1 route with only 2 paragraph text, it will take him more than 5 years just to finish this goddamn vn

let him do gruff and krane, after he finish those, he can start working on another route

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 19:16:32 No.1474446

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>>1474351

God damn you are bitter as fuck lmao

I think it's time to move on and let it go, for your own sake. It's dead.

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 20:12:10 No.1474470

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>>1474351
krane and gruff are two of his more popular and better written routes in the game, they're are gonna get the blunt of the updates.

Honestly, just let the game go. Play killigan's treasure or something.

Furrynomous 2018/08/01 20:12:13 No.1474471

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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/08/02 01:49:07 No.1474590

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>>1474446
>better written
True, I was tired and grumpy when I posted that; I still think it's unprofessional to add so many other routes, ignoring them, and keep releasing fake updates.
I have no delusions about seeing this finished, I'm just puzzled that the backers don't drop their pledges. But then again, maybe the only ones that remained like Krane and Gruff best. They still get cheated when other routes get "updated".

Also, I did try Killigan's Treasure, it's really nice. Although the project went on hiatus for a long time, so I kinda forgot about it. Then there's Identity. Echo's not bad, either.

I'm just disappointed because I really liked the setting and atmosphere. But you're right, time to drop this.

Furrynomous 2018/08/06 13:14:22 No.1476541

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>>1473850
Same thou, give me that mothman

Furrynomous 2018/09/27 17:06:55 No.1499015

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So... dedgame?

Furrynomous 2018/09/29 10:05:04 No.1499618

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>>1499015
At this point yes. But people are still supporting him for some reason. Considering he is getting 1.4k $ up to almost 3k$ a month it baffles my mind.

Also at this point I'm just adding content on my own, creating my stories, adding art. It ain't that hard tbh.

Furrynomous 2018/09/29 10:36:45 No.1499627

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People should just leave this game to die. If we're lucky the Echo team might take up where bane left off. Or just give a complete overhaul of the game since they can do the mystery aspect better than bane ever could.

Furrynomous 2018/09/30 04:50:46 No.1499898

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>>1499627
Not gonna happen. Echo isn't finished and they are already working on 2 other games.

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 01:56:38 No.1500321

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0.98 and 0.99 are out.

Only a handful of lines for Krane.

Pledges are getting pretty darn low now too

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 04:22:57 No.1500350

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>>1500321
That's still about twice of what Tennis Ace makes, and only 100$ below Repeat. Not counting the potential pledgers who support double updates, so get double charged.

Edited at 2018/10/01 04:29:31

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/10/01 04:37:40 No.1500352

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>>1500321
>Inb4 Bane starts posting 3 updates to compensate

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 10:04:13 No.1500421

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Well, we are at Version 0.99, so 1.0 next update, mind you i doubt it would be a good 1.0 but i don't think he gonna go the "0.9901" route, so something tells me Bane probably expected to been done with much more then he done by now.

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 18:17:43 No.1500589

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>>1500421

Jussst a bit. Don't forget Bane actually started blackgate during summer 2014 so it's well over 4 years old now.

Bane didn't foresee this taking a year, let alone 4 to begin with, what a shame too.

*In before a reboot happens*

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 22:41:36 No.1500656

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>>1500589
if a reboot happens, let the echo team take over.

Furrynomous 2018/10/01 23:51:33 No.1500694

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>>1500350

The irony is, when Blackgate had $4k+ per update, Bane would be earning more with just one quality update per month than he is earning now by double-charging.

Oh well, at least Krane's route will hopefully wrap up soon. I want to see what ends up happening when the Eternal comes.

Furrynomous 2018/10/02 06:25:05 No.1500763

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>>1500694
That's not particularly ironic considering that even a single good update every month would require Bane to put in some actual effort and would've brought a couple of routes to actual completion by now.
The ironic part for me is that Bane could have taken all that money and composed a team around him that would have done most of the work for him and leaving himself as the manager/creative head. But mostly Bane has been doing a lot of nothing. Echo in the meantime has gotten a second writer (mcskinny) to have 2 real updates each month and is probably going to finish all remaining routes in 6-12 months.
Other projects are yet again showing what Banedon't (I'm sorry I know that doesn't fit here, I just couldn't get it out of my head).
At the same time I have already written a bunch of fairly spiteful comments about Blackgate and I don't feel like repeating all that. Go take your money and attention to other projects. They at least use and appreciate it.

Furrynomous 2018/10/03 02:42:55 No.1501068

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It's been 2 years since the last time i play this game. i decided to play it again... the only difference i can find is that there's 3 more nights for Krane and Rotis. that's it

Furrynomous 2018/10/09 10:28:26 No.1503612

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If I change my name to "Lamp," will Charlie-senpai notice me?

1111 2018/10/09 11:22:47 No.1503626

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hm... Mhhh... What was in new update in September? Author is still answering to anyone?

Furrynomous 2018/10/18 03:42:00 No.1507047

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>>1503626
Krane night 10, Rotis night 9.

Furrynomous 2018/12/08 05:41:07 No.1526090

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Has Rotis' route currently the most nights? I really like the Longma route, I which there was more content to it.

Furrynomous 2018/12/19 09:34:01 No.1529383

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Man I had hope for this one... kinda sad seeing it now.

Furrynomous 2018/12/19 22:10:52 No.1529550

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I actually like blackgate over echo. Echo just rubs me wrong for some reason, like the story isn't very horrific to be ''horror'' and when the horror parts are there the entire plot always has a really odd sharp turn that doesn't fit. Then there's the fact that it feels non of your choices matter at all. There's just no payoff like with leo you can check his phone yet all it does is change one scene and has no impact on the route or carl who's route tone is completely bipolar going from real life anxiety to scooby doo mystery and ends with him just going ''fk u all I'm fine, now help me get some pussy''. I just don't get it, like I'm not asking for nekojishi style changes where if you didn't fart during the exam you loose your soul, but just for some control or impact at the very least a tone for the story that doesn't feel like it was written by ten people who didn't speak to each other. I hope blackgate eventually gets more focused rather than adding 1day for 2 routes just adding 2 days for 1, at least it would speed it up but I can see why bane doesn't the routes story overlaps too much telling one tells them all (except for the construction site, that seems to be its own thing). In the end i really like how repeat is going and hope to see progress on it soon. I'm also really liking the look of 'adastra' with it looking like a one route cheesy romance story and wish it all the best.

Furrynomous 2018/12/20 01:29:36 No.1529586

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>>1529550
Please don't have any hopes for Blackgate. This entire project has been floating like this for basically 2-3 YEARS. Bane doesn't care about anything and it would honestly take a miraculous revelation for him to actually do tangible work. Put your affection anywhere else.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/12/20 02:12:33 No.1529594

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>>1529550

What >>1529586 said. The project is 110% dead right now.

Furrynomous 2018/12/26 22:52:04 No.1531610

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Unpopular opinion: Blackgate's characters are honestly pretty ugly.

Furrynomous 2018/12/27 09:13:41 No.1531721

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>>1531610
I kinda figured them being pretty monstrous looking was the point myself since it fist with the vibes the story is/was going for, doesn't change the project is kinda dead in the water though.

Furrynomous 2018/12/28 06:50:43 No.1532011

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I think it's underappreciated, but my favorite was the music that Bane made and the sound effect design. It's not perfect, but nothing is as iconic as the intro, and the atmosphere is usually captured pleasantly (like the e-shard sound effect or the scary Reaper attack). Personally I love Kody's theme even though Malo was my husbando <3333. Also, a nice touch (to me) was the clicks when you make decisions and it was cool of Bane to place those little audio touches. If you go on the games file, you will also see unused songs.

RIP! Would totally support Bane as a musician, since he's definitely not an amateur. Though, maybe all this audio stuff also ate into his writing time/creative reserve.

Furrynomous 2019/01/24 13:15:24 No.1543324

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So... who's the lone guy still in the 100usd slot.

Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2019/01/24 16:06:31 No.1543386

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>>1543324
I guess Eterni? It feels like Malo's and Crome's routes haven't been updated in ages.
Eterni got at least a couple of blatantly fake updates (one was literally a dud: the file for the night that was supposedly added was not even in the game data!).
How people can still pay for this fraud is beyond me.

>>1532011
>musician
In one of the previous threads someone had posted a fitness video which featured Alin's tune in the background (melody was the same, it just lacked drums). Shame I can't find the link anymore, it was on Youtube

Furrynomous 2019/02/03 13:16:54 No.1547341

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>>1500321
Keeps dropping. I'm still surprised how many (theoretical) backers this has, considering another author/artist could do a whole lot even with this amount.

>>1529383
>>1531721
It's crazy just how dead it is. I mean this project used to be crazy popular to the point where this is fifth thread about it because the others got too big (and one for the attempt to move it to /d/). I can't recall any other VN ever being as much discussed as Blackgate. It's also quite special that Bane didn't manage to finish even a single route before giving up on it. Not that he has officially given up or anything, but we all know nothing is going to happen here.
I can only hope that people will continue to take their money and attention to other projects.

Furrynomous 2019/02/11 02:14:03 No.1550579

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I think Bane did an excellent job at creating a world, and a mood that offered a lot of promise. However, I believe Bane never had a clear vision of where the story was going to go. I personally can't write, and believe me I've tried, but it is usually very apparent in the telling of the story if the writer has a complete story or they are winging it. The best stories are told by those that know were they are going with it, and can seed details throughout. I believe that Bane tried to cover for that fact by constantly adding new characters and routes. In my opinion, it appears he got in over his head, trying to write for way too many routes, and would have been far better off, had he pick 5 or 6 characters to focus on and added the others as background characters with minor roles. I think he ended up stretching himself way too thin by adding so many routes before finishing others.

Furrynomous 2019/02/11 19:59:22 No.1550894

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So Bane is now furry Spoony.

Furrynomous 2019/02/11 23:18:29 No.1550971

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Wow, I never would have believed Echo would be the one to be finished, and for Blackgate to be left moribund by the wayside.

I always thought it'd be the opposite, with Echo fading away and Blackgate taking its place as the new Morenatsu.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 01:39:38 No.1551002

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Blackgate is a victim of the creators own ambition. Tried to do too much, implementing way too many routes when the main 9 wasn't even finished yet.

Updates went from having 45mins -1hour worth of conent to just 4-5 mins per update. Sprite updates and sets for the sprites stopped coming in altogether. Only gruff gotten half of his sprite work done while rotis and jack only got the 1 sprite. Echo started way later in development and manage to finish 2 of it's 5 routes with in a couple of years. and BG cant even finish one. I hope bane gives this project to the echo devs or something i really hate seeing it die like this.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 03:02:15 No.1551041

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Perhaps Bane should hire a ghost writer or something.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 03:36:03 No.1551048

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>>1551002
But honestly even the idea of 9 routes written by 1 person is ridiculous. I can't think of any other VN where one person has managed to finish three distinct routes. Meanwhile Bane attempted... how many? Like 4 police routes + 3 library + 3 bar + 3 construction and then also that weird Vex route (I think that was his name) that didn't particularly go anywhere. So 14 routes? Even if Bane had worked constantly on this in the last 4 years, this wouldn't be close to being done and would probably need another 8 years to go.
I mean sure, some of the routes aren't particularly distinct. But there is just a difference between ambition and something you'll never get done. Realistically, this would have needed a writer for each area, so Bane can write his beloved police routes while others take care of something else. And someone to double check all of that, too. Yet Bane had all this patreon money and did nothing with it. Obviously this also would have required Bane to know where his story was going which clearly wasn't the case as well. So we ended up stuck with half of something and half of nothing.

Maybe, in a few years, we're gonna have Blackgate Revisited where someone discards a bunch of the failed routes and at least finishes some of the okayish ones.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 11:52:56 No.1551144

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>>1551048
honestly they should just discard the YCH routes, as it really didn't tie in with the plot and was just it's own thing. Fugitive route should be cut as well.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 13:09:12 No.1551166

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>>1551144
Yes, sure, discard the YCH routes. It's not like the people who bought those slots paid at least $2400 each (and that's assuming just one year of patronage. Considering how long this project has been going on, the number is likely to be much, much higher).

At this point, Bane has a much higher obligation to completing the YCH routes (considering the obscene amounts of money he already took from them) than he does any other in the game.

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 14:04:31 No.1551182

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People, the game is not the problem, the problem is Bane himself. For the game to have a chance of at least being finished or see some proper progress we would need to remove Bane from the whole thing he is what drags this game down.

Edited at 2019/02/12 14:05:06

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 14:13:35 No.1551184

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>>1551166
The tier reward is as such: "MAJOR Character creation", that doesn't necessarily mean said character should have a route. Although he might have mentioned that in a post very early in development. I'll say you can create characters that are important to your plot, build a connection with them, AND NOT having them in your bed, it's not hard.

Even then, the Construction Routes are so like one another that you can completely rewrite those into one route and make them roommates, or sleeping in a dormitory, with you choosing which partner you want for each day.

About 90% of the content between Malo, Crome, and Eterni is copy/pasted anyway, so it's not like regrouping all into one package would be all that much of a change.

As for removing other routes, it's actually pretty hard to do so if you want to keep balance, especially for the Police Routes because they're most people's favourites. Aside from Plox/Leraje, I can't think of a single character who doesn't have a decently big fanbase overall, as opposed to the Bar where most are gaga on Alin but not much on Kody & Helle, and especially the Library where I remember Vincent being rather mixed and the other two being left in the dust.

By streamlining and all, you're gonna provoke outrage either way, cause fans aren't gonna adapt to having their favourite route being ditched. There was already disappointment when Seiya from Lagoon Lounge didn't get his "sex scene" (ugh) in the remake, and that was a little puke who was very likely to not be legal, and had no business having such a scene in the first place, so you can imagine that in the case of more "fleshed out" characters.

Edited at 2019/02/12 14:15:49

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 15:29:23 No.1551217

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>>1551184
Wait... which of the routes have the major characters?

Furrynomous 2019/02/12 16:46:04 No.1551235

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>>1551217
Everyone in the Construction route, so Eterni/Malo/Crome.

That's why there were three slots open... and somehow, Bane keeps them open despite a non-existent inclusion past these three.

Furrynomous 2019/02/13 07:10:08 No.1551442

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>>1551235
I find that hard to believe... Those are barely touched on and now one is broken.

me 2019/03/05 14:18:17 No.1560032

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Okay so. I haven't played this VN in well over a year and lemme tell ya.
Rotis got me catching feelings rn.

update 4/1/19 me 2019/04/01 03:56:38 No.1570617

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And its not even a joke!
Updated Vincent route night 8->9?
Also added CG of attack doll from police route looks like.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/25777719

update 4/1/19 me 2019/04/01 03:56:40 No.1570618

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>>1570617

Furrynomous 2019/04/10 00:05:22 No.1574217

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when is the last time this project actually got a proper update?

Not a few lines of text added onto a night, or a rewrite, or an extra sprite or two, but an actual, sizable chunk added on to a route.

Every time I come back to see what's been added, and a lot of characters have maybe half a night's worth of content slapped on. For some of them, that's the only update they've gotten in like a year. Some of the characters I see have gotten several updates in the time I last played their routes, but of the 5 updates the characters got, 3 are rewrites of something (that I sometimes honestly can't see what was changed about the night), 1 is a half update tacked on to their last night to prepare it for another night, and the last one is either a new sprite, or a handful of lines that are technically a new night, but end at a cliff hanger before anything actually happens...

When was the last time a character actually got a full night added in one update, or when a cg was added?

If an update was dedicated to bugfixes every now and then I'd completely understand a lack of meaningful content every now and then, but then why are bugs that I remember being in some routes 2 years ago still a thing? Bane obviously keeps backtracking with what he writes, constantly redoing everything, so why doesn't he fix any of the bugs the game has?

I just want to know what the hell Bane has been doing for the last 2 years

Furrynomous 2019/04/11 06:47:20 No.1574799

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>>1574217
It's simple. For the last 2-3 years he's been very busy reaping money off patreon for basically doing nothing or close to nothing. This project is like a zombie that's not been shot yet, not truly dead but also anything but alive. It just exists, stuck in a perpetual state of emptiness.

People need to forget about this shit and put their attention elsewhere.

Furrynomous 2019/05/18 04:54:40 No.1591084

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Last i checked on blackgate it had an update featuring a doll???? Where is the plot going?????

Furrynomous 2019/06/05 16:03:22 No.1598593

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Support for this game has absolutely plummeted.

This game really started out strong, but bane took myself and everyone else for a ride.

I'm really disappointed in his minimal effort at this point, if feels like he just does the bare minimum to collect his paycheck.

Furrynomous 2019/06/06 14:18:31 No.1599015

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So uhh how far does the routes go so far? Haven't played this in like years.

Furrynomous 2019/06/07 04:02:55 No.1599241

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>>1598593
That's still 99% too much for the work Bane does on it.

>>1599015
Probably as far as you remember them.

mrjanuslee 2019/12/01 02:20:29 No.1678577

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Too many words , too many CG's =/

Furrynomous 2019/12/26 13:26:08 No.1689898

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Sad this project has been dying over the last few years. if only his other projects wouldn't have been such a major success maybe blackgate would be close to finished by now

Boomwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2019/12/26 14:30:46 No.1689915

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>>1689898
Uh... his what now? Echo project was staffed by other, far more professional people, while Laika Dosha basically vanished. Would you mind telling us of what oh-so-successful projects are you talking about?

Furrynomous 2019/12/26 14:52:12 No.1689921

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if echo is his only truly "successful" project then I have honestly no idea why blackgate fell so hard, burnout? lack of interest?
he was making over 4k just only a year ago and is down to just $500 while the current project has only focused on one character for the past few months

Furrynomous 2019/12/26 17:46:48 No.1689979

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>>1689921

Bane has nothing to do with Echo, Howly and Mcskinny are the two responsible for it's success.

Furrynomous 2019/12/26 18:20:55 No.1689990

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Blackgate was at one time making over 10k a month per release. and im not debating its downfall. However we can at least all agree the point of downfall was how there was like 10 routes and keeping them all going. I dont fault him at all for wanting all those routes but I feel maybe he should have just introduced them then complete like 2 at a time then in the end polish them off. I feel its not a complete lost cause, if he can at least devote time to just try and finish 1 route at a time right now, then polish them, this game could make a great turn around.

Furrynomous 2019/12/31 03:28:33 No.1691964

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Where are the download links to this vn? I wanna play it ofc

Furrynomous 2019/12/31 03:40:15 No.1691967

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>>1691964
Just go to the patreon page

Furrynomous 2019/12/31 05:38:19 No.1692000

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>>1691967
But I can't find the download links on his patreon page. I just see the latest update and there is no URL or anything going anywhere. Maybe I'm retarded but i kinda need help, I'm new to patreon and would be very much apreciate the help

Furrynomous 2019/12/31 06:34:11 No.1692013

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>>1692000
It's in the page's description at the top, not in the Patreon posts.
Blackgate has never paywalled its updates, which is possibly its only redeeming quality now, due to how terrible and lacking the updates have been for over three years, there's no point in pledging.

Furrynomous 2020/04/21 22:41:38 No.1741975

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It's dead for sure, isn't it?

Furrynomous 2020/04/24 10:58:09 No.1743388

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>>1741975
Yeah most of the "updates" are broken. It's unplayable...

Sad to see

Furrynomous 2020/07/24 08:55:30 No.1788310

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Man... He shoulve used ghost writers back when this shit brings thoushands per update.

Furrynomous 2020/10/10 14:25:56 No.1829409

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Was there a last "playable" update for this game

Furrynomous 2020/11/10 20:16:51 No.1845886

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So is there any high resolution gruff car sex scene yet?

ZD 2020/11/10 20:43:28 No.1845895

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>>1845886
Probably not...it pretty much stayed the same the last time I checked.

ZD 2020/11/10 20:46:59 No.1845896

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I'm surprised a new Blackgate Thread was created. Blackgate started off very promising and then, a lot of things went wrong.

Still hope the creator steps his game back up.

Furrynomous 2020/11/10 23:06:33 No.1845939

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>>1845896
im honestly just there for gruff's route. But the game went to shit so fast, i wonder if the Echo VN team could take this up.

Furrynomous 2020/11/11 02:15:44 No.1845960

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>>1845939

They're dying of Covid, probably not

Furrynomous 2020/11/11 04:12:39 No.1845972

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>>1845960
wait, what? when was this?!

Furrynomous 2020/11/11 09:08:25 No.1846031

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>>1845972
khemia was delayed and echo project as a whole took a break for about a month bc howly had medical issues involving a bad reaction to medication and other hectic things going on. it was never stated to be covid.

iirc echo was originally planned to be connected to blackgate but they since cut ties and have nothing to do with it, i highly doubt they'd have any interest in picking it up.

Furrynomous 2020/11/11 09:33:36 No.1846037

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>>1845960
I've heard rumours of medical issues but is it really covid19 though?

Furrynomous 2020/11/12 14:14:45 No.1846693

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I highly doubt Echo Project would ever pick up Blackgate. I also wouldn't be suprised if Khemia burns out either cuz of that blacklash it recieved while back.

Furrynomous 2020/11/12 22:44:44 No.1846884

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>>1846693
What backlash did khemia get?

Furrynomous 2020/11/12 23:39:40 No.1846903

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>>1846884
The only one I heard is Marco shedding avia pox, killing some western diplomat. People got mad because "it's disrespectful with covid19 going rn".

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 04:51:45 No.1846967

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>>1846903
People really got mad about this? Wow.

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 08:51:36 No.1847031

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>>1846903

I remember that people were initially dissatisfied when they compared Khemia to the former VN Adastra but I don't remember much "backlash" per se. I thought the allusion to COVID-19 was clever.

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 09:34:04 No.1847039

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Everything is fine as long as I don't have to be annoying Human MC :D
(I'm cool with Minotaur hotel tho)

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 11:28:00 No.1847096

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a lot of people complained about amicus' and neferu's new sprites, and virginia not having new sprites, and some think scipio is a pallet swap of amicus.

howly said the viral themes in khemia's story were planned long before covid and are just bad timing

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 13:09:51 No.1847148

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>>1847096
You've got to admit, they butchered the sprites. The original were just fine imo

Furrynomous 2020/11/13 13:27:23 No.1847154

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Let's be honest, the Khemia sprites for Amicus and Neferu are a downgrade, completely inferior to the original game ones. I understand changing them, but if there's changes to be made, they should be for the better, not a step backwards.

Haps is letting the attention go to his head, perhaps another artist should be considered for future projects tbqh. I know it'd be controversial, but Haps himself is adamant his style has changed and he can't go back to drawing Amicus and co. as he did in Adastra, and his art has increasingly become more and more stylized and less detailed.

Just saiyan.

Furrynomous 2020/11/14 19:39:46 No.1847896

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>>1847096
It's not just that.
There also talking about how lackluster the prologue started as well as, how Moe's music for Khemia is terrible and doesn't fit the setting.

There not wrong though, but there are also rumors going around that someone threatened Moe to quit Echo Project for good which is just fucking sick.

Furrynomous 2020/11/14 22:37:40 No.1847989

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>>1847896
Moe's music was bland and fairly generic.

People were justifiably angry that they couldn't upgrade sprites for Virginia/downgraded sprites for other characters but had the time to commission the music.

I ain't gonna white-knight for the devs lol, because the game was clearly lackluster compared to what we know they can do.

Furrynomous 2020/11/15 02:56:15 No.1848067

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>>1847989
Threatening people to leave projects is never justified, nor is it white knighting to say so tho

ZD 2020/11/15 02:59:30 No.1848068

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>>1845939
Yeah, me, too. I'm writing a fanfic about that VN that's about both Gruff and the MC for the most part but in different settings.

PS: sorry for typing something that's irrelevant to the topic

Furrynomous 2020/11/15 06:14:01 No.1848161

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>>1845939

Share it here when you're finished, I'm interested. There seems to be too few fanfics of Blackgate.

ZD 2020/11/15 06:26:00 No.1848163

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>>1848161
Might take a long time. I'm still figuring out the start.

Furrynomous 2020/12/10 23:34:57 No.1862705

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the first blackgate releases came out in like 2014 when i was still in high school. it's 2020 now, i'm a grown adult that graduated college and bane never finished a single route.

i wish he would at least let someone else take over the project to give it some kind of ending

Furrynomous 2020/12/10 23:44:25 No.1862709

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>>1862705
I would honestly hand it to the echos team since they can handle this kind of story better.

Furrynomous 2020/12/11 00:08:38 No.1862716

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>>1862709
The Echo Project is already going the way of Blackgate/Bane, given how they're already dealing with month-long delays.

Also, the Echo Project has too much on their hands to ever take Blackgate: Echo, Khemia, The Smoke Room, the proposed Adastra sequel, the proposed Echo sequel, some project with superheroes.

Furrynomous 2021/02/03 19:51:27 No.1892941

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>>1862705
I can see he's still updating the game on his Patreon page.
I am impressed by his resilience on keeping going.

Furrynomous 2021/08/01 12:32:48 No.1987785

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so i remembered blackgate out of nowhere and checked bane's patreon just out of curiosity. and oof it's gone down to $500 on patreon lmao.

anyway, what piqued my interests was that he's still posting updates! i thought with his VN's decline, that would stop him from writing. i haven't read any of his stuff since like probably around 2016 or 17.
to those who's still reading the updates, did it get super interesting later on?
sad there's no ultra quality artwork/CGs from darkgem (hell, i don't think there's any new arts), but a good writing might get me back to this train ride.

Sapphire21 2021/08/14 17:29:08 No.1994424

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I've been watching Blackgate for a while, and it looks to me like Bane is just dragging the story out with the updates.
Like the three in a row Krane updates have interesting dialogue, but he switched to different routes right when Krain route was getting to the Eternal attack
Also I'm pretty sure he can't get anymore CGs, Darkgem is no longer active anywhere and I think any other artist would take one look at what Banes done in the past and say no...
Honestly the only hope for Blackgate would be if its turned over to Echo project or Bane gets a team of his own.

Latest Blackgate updates Furrynomous 2021/10/01 20:20:51 No.2017022

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Ok, I just played the new version 0.153
What the fuck! All that's added is a single new background and a couple sentences!
And he posted two updates to do it!

Seriously if your reading this Bane its long past time to admit you either don't care anymore or simply can't do it anymore!
If you want Blackgate to be finished its time to hand it over to someone else who can actually finish it!
Dude Blackgate has been a zombie for years now, I know for a fact that people have offered to help you with it, but you don't let anyone. Also a lot of people think you no longer intend to actually finish any of the routes, just add tiny updates so you can keep it in production as long as possible and get money from petrean supported who think you will finish it!
Bane, asking for help is not some kind of dishonor or weakness, but if the rumors about what your doing are true, that is very disrespectful to the early fans of Blackgate and your petreon supporters. I'm not on petreon and its because I've seen the posts on this thread and the previous ones.
You might actually be able to turn this around with a single good content monthly update, but then again you might as well give up.

Blackgate fan mod Sapphire21 2021/11/11 19:47:56 No.2036650

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Hey if anyone still is here I found this fan mod.
Its pretty neat and shows what Blackgate could have become...
https://andrecaval.itch.io/blackgate-the-visual-novel-fanmod

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