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The Butterfly Dream Dorurung 2018/02/28 10:44:10 No.1398898   
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<The Butterfly Dream> is an in-progress Furry Visual Novel project with the main artist Hachi(https://twitter.com/hachi_duchi, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/shirogom/).

Demo version is available. Korean and English is supported for the demo.

The funding has just begun!
Support the team to make them develop a great furry game!

Learn more in the patreon site:
https://www.patreon.com/dorurung
Edited at 2018/02/28 10:52:51
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Furrynomous 2018/02/28 13:59:40 No.1399007
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>>1398898
Looks cute but will probably never be completed because patreon.
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Furrynomous 2018/02/28 16:25:14 No.1399043
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Sakuya Izayoi, is dat you?
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Vic Venom 2018/03/01 07:28:00 No.1399355
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>>1399007
Don't generalise Blackgate's situation to all VNs.
Echo just finished one route and it's a year younger.

As for the game...
>first picture shows Nekojishi on a computer screen
>English is sorta really broken
>"calm my throbbing breasts"
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Oh boy, it's gonna be an adventure.

Pledging is allegedly per "ONE WHOLE GAME". I think they actually meant "Per Demo" or "Per Route Completed", cause
the 500$ patron could just take his pledge away before the game gets released and having his character in the game without payin--

WAIT
515$?!
THERE'S NOT EVEN UPDATES ON THE PAGE, HOW? WHY A 500$ PATRON JUST... AH!
*brain fart*
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Dorurung 2018/03/01 11:21:29 No.1399420
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>>1399355
Sorry for the bad English.. I am just a Korean and most of the translation was held by Google translation. Perhaps the expressions could not be familiar to the natives. If the total pledge is high enough, we will use a professional translator to guarantee the good quality translation

Also about the pledge.. the paying would be done at the start of next month.
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 11:33:00 No.1399428
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>>1399420
If you are planning on charging for every updated demo, I would recommend saying - per demo - rather than - one whole game -. Wording it that way makes it sound as if there will be one charge once the game is finished.

Edited at 2018/03/01 11:34:04
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 12:04:43 No.1399445
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>>1399355
Weird, did they mean heart?

Calm your tits is certainly an expression, but not breasts and certainly not throbbing ones.
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/03/01 13:48:29 No.1399518
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>>1399355
>>1399445
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 13:54:44 No.1399521
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>>1399518

This is my new favorite expression.
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Vic Venom 2018/03/01 14:09:45 No.1399526
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[Fuck I dunno how to delete a post, I double posted by mistake]

At least I'll say that the art is good, as far as sprites are concerned.

Edited at 2018/03/01 14:21:47
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Vic Venom 2018/03/01 14:10:50 No.1399527
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>>1399420
Well it does look Google Translated a fair bit.

As for my reaction that probably was a bit overdone, but I meant no harm;
I'm just very surprised you managed to get that much money pledged to your project in just a few days, while other VNs struggle to get to that number.
Extracurricular Activities is currently at 6,500$, yet when it started, it took 7 months for it to reach +650$.

The fact that it took only days for you to get to around 650$ probably means that either...
- Your Patrons understood that they'd pay when you release the final version, as in the "WHOLE GAME".
- Korea is a bigger market for gay furry VNs than I thought.
- The 500$ Patron is a pretty big gambler, or a friend, cause it's pretty early to consider being inserted in a game that had barely started development for that much money.
- Maybe all the above.

As is, you might wanna ask for a translator earlier on, or get a Korean friend who at least writes decent English and would do it for free or a small payment, cause no offense,
there's not just the "Throbbing breasts" bit which was... off (admittedly I laughed out loud at that, it was amusing).

>>1399518
Pfffft... Hahaha!
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/03/01 14:33:44 No.1399536
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>>1399420
Hmm. You could try and look for a native English speaker who is fluent in Korean, and let them have the same reward as the other patrons (maybe not the basic one). Who knows? Maybe some people that study Korean might find it good for practicing.

Also, best of luck with your project!
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 15:16:57 No.1399551
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>Ends right before you see the chef
Hardest i've ever been cockblocked
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 15:41:13 No.1399568
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>>1399527
this

I think too that the English should be improved by getting a translator or just someone that is good at English, you don't know how much it'll help from the beginning

Also yeah please change the "per ONE WHOLE GAME" to "per update" or "per demo", it's kind of misleading like this

Other than this the game looks cool, I'd love to see more of it
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Furrynomous 2018/03/01 16:25:04 No.1399583
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I dig it so far, English needs some work but it's very promising
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Thanks for the advice Dorurung 2018/03/02 04:41:58 No.1399809
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Confusing Statement: For the phrase of "per ONE WHOLE GAME," I really mean the per ONE WHOLE GAME. But the charging will be done right after our patronage period
(3/1~3/31). Then, we develop the game respect to the money we get(800$ - One route, 1600$ - Two route, etc.) and release it. We have a plan to put extra patron if we don't get enough money after developing that game.

If it was per demo, it would be dangerous to set a 500$ pledge - patron's character in the game because as someone said, he or she would cancel the pledge during development. So if the statement was confused, I apologize for that.

We referred the patron method to Nekojishi, and also first time doing patron, so we don't know the proper quantity of money of the goal we should make. We would be watching for a few days and if we think it is not proper, we would modify the goal.

English translation: We would be more careful with that, there were lack of time since our team is all constructed with university students. (And also lack of English influent member, hm... I guess I should post a job opening in Korea fandom.)

Also, we already have a complete script for the old prototype version of this game, so we guarantee that we could complete this game.

Thanks for the sincere advice you guys.

Edited at 2018/03/02 05:10:37
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First fan art Dorurung 2018/03/02 04:52:21 No.1399811
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We are glad to see the first fan art!
Daniel with more fluffy furs.
Illustrator: https://twitter.com/mint_chiryong
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First fan art Dorurung 2018/03/02 04:52:23 No.1399812
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>>1399811
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Bookwyrm!d1FfOYLPf. 2018/03/02 07:20:41 No.1399853
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>>1399809
Best of luck with your project!
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Furrynomous 2018/03/02 08:29:17 No.1399866
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>>1399809
If I understand correctly... you will take the money when completing one route? Wow that's probably the best price I've ever seen in a VN

Good luck with your work, I'm really looking forward to playing your game
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Dorurung 2018/03/02 10:12:08 No.1399888
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>>1399866
We will take the money before developing the first route.
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Vic Venom 2018/03/02 11:04:03 No.1399923
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>>1399809
You have to remember though that Patreon doesn't work like Kickstarter or whatever crowdfunding site Nekojishi used;
it doesn't show the total amount of money you've gained for the project.
The goals take the monthly pledges in account, not the total amount gained, so you'll have to count manually to check how far away you are from hitting a goal.

All that means is that if for example the 500$ backer stops his pledging, it'll show your Patreon going down to 146$, even though you clearly gained those 500$ the month before.

Unless Patreon changed some of its settings and allows to have a "Pledging meter" similar to Kickstarter's, then I'll say "I didn't know".

Edited at 2018/03/02 11:25:05
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Furrynomous 2018/03/02 17:37:49 No.1400152
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Really liking the novel so far, I think it has potential
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Furrynomous 2018/03/02 18:51:59 No.1400196
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Just to say: loves the character designs. I would like to see some arts of the dragon *-*
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Dorurung 2018/03/03 10:14:38 No.1400450
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>>1399923
We initialy wanted to use Kickstarter but it does not support in Korea. Also, other similar crowd funding site in Korea does not allow NSFW contents. So, we had to use patreon for get crowd funding.

Also, patreon supports the "Per Creation" payment schedule. It charges the patrons only when I make a Paid Post, and we are using it because we want only one charge.
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Dorurung 2018/03/03 10:21:11 No.1400452
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Also new two fan-arts!
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Dorurung 2018/03/03 10:21:13 No.1400453
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>>1400452
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Furrynomous 2018/03/03 16:16:58 No.1400593
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>I want to sex the butler
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Furrynomous 2018/03/03 16:31:56 No.1400601
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>>1400450
Reading through this thread I am still confused as to how the payment will work, per route, or a one-time charge for the whole game. Either way, I think both are a mistake.

Patreon is really about building a fan base through steady content releases. That's how the most successful Patreon projects work. I recommend releasing a demo once per month with a charge, like most VN projects do, and build your fanbase. If the $500 patron only needs to be charged once, charge him the first time then delete that tier and simply keep in contact with him. I can see that your Patron count has stalled and it will probably stay that way until you start releasing content. I always see the biggest jumps in patronage when a project releases a new demo.

Anyway, I may have misunderstood how you plan to do things, but that's just how I see it. Good luck.

Edited at 2018/03/03 16:45:01
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Dorurung 2018/03/04 19:18:20 No.1401074
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>>1400601
Sounds reasonable...
We would consider that.
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Dorurung 2018/03/04 21:04:32 No.1401117
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There were so many confusions and suggestion about the payment method. So, we changed it to "per month." Therefore, the rewards' price have reduced, and most of the goals has been deleted since we are going to develop all route in 2 months of each.

More details from the post:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/must-read-method-17366306

Thanks for the feedbacks you guys! I am keep monitoring this thread.
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Furrynomous 2018/03/05 06:25:44 No.1401261
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have you heard of kimochi ? it's basically kickstarter but for adult project

https://www.kimochi.co/
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Furrynomous 2018/03/05 07:01:06 No.1401266
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>>1401117
Hmm, a passable English translation may be the prority considering that is probably where you will get the most support. Otherwise, I wonder if maybe there are ways to get this out to the Korean audience more. Is there a Korean furry site or message board? Maybe consider opening a twitter account for the project. Taiwan, with a relatively small population, gave a bunch to nekojishi after all.

Edited at 2018/03/05 07:03:29
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Furrynomous 2018/04/02 17:44:34 No.1415982
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The updated Patreon with a new demo, but for patrons only.
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Furrynomous 2018/04/19 09:43:48 No.1423278
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There better be a fucking long route for the hunky white dragon coz imma play it all day omg
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1111 2018/10/13 03:41:20 No.1505250
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So, they changed the artist because "complicated situation". I wonder what is it... Conflicts in team again, like always?
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Furrynomous 2018/11/23 16:28:09 No.1520509
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So what happened to this project is it dead?
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Furrynomous 2018/11/23 19:26:54 No.1520556
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>>1520509
still going. check their main page on patreon instead

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