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"The Gift" by Jay Naylor Grinder 2016/12/04 23:53:24 No.1186077   
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Getting this started early. Here's a semi-placeholder for the new Naylor comic. Yes, this is the only page thus far; new stuff should be out in the next 48 hours. First one to get it, please use this thread.

It appears we're descending into new and uncharted levels of > here.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 00:08:11 No.1186082
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>Naylor
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 00:14:00 No.1186091
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oh boy here we go
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 01:02:30 No.1186152
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I think this dude needs to read Stirner.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 01:57:25 No.1186170
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Here is the thing...

I was a fan of Naylor back in his BD comic days and his tie in comics. There were some stupid things in them like incest and vigilante murder, but after Lucy and Frisk got to college, Naylor found his stride and was pretty good.

Then OL happen and he started having this nihilistic arguments, like in the superhero arc in the comic where the kids really turned into talking heads for Naylor to preach his politics without working it into the plot.

Around then his porn started to be less about just sex and constantly worked in cheating, watersports, femdom, meanspirited BS that really tanked his work.

However, my question is this.

Why do so many people like his work now?

His art, to me at least, is decent enough and I get that everyone has their fetishes. This site is a good example of that. But I don't get how soooo many people like his stuff now. Especially since he is making almost $10k a month on his patreon now.

Regardless of your views on his work, there are better artists out there that don't make any where near this much.

So again, why do so many people like his stuff?

Edited at 2016/12/05 02:37:49
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 02:10:54 No.1186177
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Cause he nods his head to the freaks out there.
No one else works those kinks into stories that people can relate to.
I chalk it up to the same mentality that keeps Nickelback CDs and concerts sold out. People will deny liking them till the sun comes up. But then sing with their latest if only to themselves...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 02:16:20 No.1186178
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>>1186077
Page one, and even though I'm into the theme here with a male focus, the dialogue turns me off from it. Can someone please rewrite this?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 02:38:55 No.1186179
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>>1186178
Why not you rewrite it? I don't think anyone would mind if you could make this comic better.

Edited at 2016/12/05 02:41:49
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 03:19:01 No.1186184
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>>1186177
Yup, everyone who hates Nickelback secretly loves Nickelback.

Also, the problem that people have is that people CAN'T relate to these stories.

Sure, you don't mind it if you're into the kinks, but it's not something you can overlook if you're not.

I've read stories with kinks that I hate and I still thought they were good but I don't think any of Naylor's fits on that list.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 04:24:00 No.1186327
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Oh god no, please not another one. I don't hate Naylor, I just hate the sheer levels of bullshit people heap upon every single thing he ever makes.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 05:06:38 No.1186330
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>>1186327

People might do that less if his every work now wasn't about "You should be the alpha male who treats woman as the sluts they actually are"...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 05:16:02 No.1186333
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>>1186330

It's made even more amusing by what a beta little bitch he is... he had his comic book characters promote him in a cartoon dating advert on Furaffinity for god's sake... rolling in the pussy, he is not.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 05:19:20 No.1186335
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Some men just enjoy that sort of talk. I mean, I don't knock it. Whatever floats his boat.

I'm one of those vanilla saps who could never really be mean to someone in the bedroom but hey, I can enjoy the art at least.

Edited at 2016/12/05 05:19:37
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 06:34:30 No.1186342
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This doesn't mesh with my insecure world view, so I have to take it as a personal insult!!!!"
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 08:07:19 No.1186388
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Being denied an orgasm by a woman for fun is a very weak form of debasement or inferiority if you have a mindset more evolved than a 15-year old's. She's not telling him he can't go on a trip or denying him access to his own home or something.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 08:19:51 No.1186390
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>>1186184
I didn't say everyone. I personally enjoy their music. it's a matter of shame for others. He's obviously doing something right. He gets bank you can't even dream about for producing smut you drool over, but deny liking.
I like his art doesn't mean I like his words. Is a tired argument and a sad one.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 08:56:07 No.1186399
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>>1186077

Ayn Rand said everything Naylor regurgitates, just better.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 10:12:49 No.1186419
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>>1186170

There is a few factors as to Naylor's popularity

>He's been in the fandom from the 90s, so he has an established name in the community.
>He ran two long running webcomics, again bostlers popularity.
>He's drawn tons and tons and TONS of adult comics, people found him by the sheer amount of smut he produces.
>He holds any potential commissions hostages via Patreon - commissioners know this and willingly pledge. Its not about quality its just about chasing that allusive "name brand" to add to their commission gallery on FA.
>He has attracted alot of fans for his niche fetishes.
>He's consistently went to cons for probably around a decade.
>He's a known lulz-cow and drama-monger with some outlandish views he constantly yammers about. This infamy gets people talking and bolsters popularity.

Naylor is HIGHLY overrated, comparatively to other artists who've been drawing around the same amount or less. His work is subpar but passable enough since he learned to draw dicks,pussy and ass okay (he's still pretty shit at hips,tits,faces and character design.) I imagine a portion of those pledges are fake to leak new stuff - Naylor never chose to weed them out because status is everything to him.

As far as I've heard, he isn't popular with fellow furry-artists and is generally unpleasant to hang around.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 10:44:38 No.1186433
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Naylor's femdom comics are pretty good as long as they don't turn into cuckolding or fucked up levels of degradation and shit
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 10:59:23 No.1186436
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>>1186419
People constantly call his art "sub-par" and "crap," but to my non-professional eye, his art is very good by furry standards. Almost all of his characters are attractive to me, their faces are expressive, and he hits the perfect balance where his art isn't too cartoony to be erotic, but not so detailed that it drifts into the uncanny valley.

I'm not a fan of his writing, the personal philosophy that he clumsily shoehorns into porn comics, but the art is good enough that I consistently enjoy his comics anyway. I just tend to ignore the dialogue after the first time I've read it. It's totally ripe for parody and criticism, so the constant Naylor-bashing makes perfect sense to me.

But his popularity makes perfect sense to me, too. Because even when I'm laughing at his comics, I'm eagerly waiting for the next pages. At the end of the day, I'm here for the art, not the writing, and he's a good artist.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 11:15:39 No.1186445
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>>1186399
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 14:12:47 No.1186504
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>>1186436
>I'm not a fan of his writing, the personal philosophy that he clumsily shoehorns into porn comics, but the art is good enough that I consistently enjoy his comics anyway

So why do you feel the need to post in his defense?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 14:45:10 No.1186512
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>>1186390
This might shock you but there are more people who exist than just the people who deny liking Naylor's work. You know, like people who actually like Naylor's work.

Just because people criticize his work all the time does not mean there aren't people that genuinely enjoy it and pay for it. I am consistently let down by his art (more from a writing standpoint), I criticize it, and I don't pay for it. Most people see the decent illustrations and that's all they care about, there isn't some conspiracy or denial where the people who bitch and moan about his work are secretly buying it still.

I'm sure there are some that do but they're a minority of a minority.

Edited at 2016/12/05 14:51:48
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 17:12:35 No.1186588
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Man, it's never a dull moment when Naylor creates a comic that triggers so many people. Heck, reading the comments arguing about his writing is far more entertaining and from the looks of it, no one will learn complaining about it won't change anything.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 17:37:09 No.1186600
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>>1186588
Fuck, thank you, glad it's not just me that thought so. The amount of un-necessarily drawn out drama that gets posted about in Naylor threads is even more common than the objectionable themes we're used to seeing in his work.
Nothing ever changes, and HE himself certainly won't.
Plus I love that we got all of this from just the first image.
In any case, thanks for saying what I was thinking. Now to resume ignoring these threads and doing better things in my life than posting in them.

...Okay except for this one time.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 17:42:42 No.1186603
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>>1186600

Amen. I usually don't care for Jay Naylor comics, seeing how it's not my cup of tea but I had to say something after seeing how other websites were also embroiled with heated debates all thanks to JUST THE FIRST PAGE of ANY Jay Naylor comic, like e-hentai.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 20:17:26 No.1186642
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"we have such sights to... Oh, wait, it's Naylor. Ok everybody, let's go, back to the box. I don't want to deal with this shit"
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 21:43:53 No.1186660
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>>1186436

You need to look at more furry art then. His art is passable but nothing special, his capacity to improve this past 5 years has been minimal. He has plateaued and has no desire to get better.

Compared to other furry artists, with more colorful,lively,dynamic and erotic works. Naylor tries to imitate this but it always generally feels flat.

In short, he is mediocre at best and that's just my opinion. He can do ok work from time to time, but thats about it.
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Sabel 2016/12/05 22:08:33 No.1186668
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>>1186660
I have to agree and slightly disagree with you on this.

Naylor's art isn't just passable. Considering the vast majority of artists out there are crap, he's still good in comparison. That said, out of the top echelon of artists within the community, yeah, he is mediocre. What further drives down his quality is the effort he takes in his abhorrent writing. Maybe if he concentrated more on his art and less on his philosophy he wouldn't have plateaued.

That said... is there a list of artists within the community stacked up into a Ratings system or something? Who is the best artist, ever? Who is second?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 22:13:15 No.1186675
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>>1186668
Depends on what you're looking for, really.

I think Celeste has a very good coloring/shading style and I think Faint has great line work and drawing style.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 22:27:11 No.1186680
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>>1186642
I like the art, but the posts here of people purposely coming to rage over it really ruins the mood.

I hate it, so I should come and bitch about it.

On topic of image... youtube has been suggesting Hellraiser to me out of the blue for Profit???
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 22:39:32 No.1186685
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>>1186436
>Naylor being a good artist

When he's not being lazy to the point of elongating torsos/exaggerating anatomy because he couldn't bother to go back and refine his block-in, that infamous head tilt he does with his characters, or failing to draw a navel.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 23:23:19 No.1186699
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Merry Christmas bitches!
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MetroSexual Hipster 2016/12/05 23:44:26 No.1186707
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>>1186699
Oh man here comes the posts talking about naylor and his "thing" for making women submissive sex slaves or something

Edited at 2016/12/05 23:44:41
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Furrynomous 2016/12/05 23:46:38 No.1186708
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Naylor has a thing for making women submissive sex slaves or something.
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Grinder 2016/12/06 00:17:07 No.1186714
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>>1186699

Thank you anon, also checked.
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"The Gift" by Jay Naylor Furrynomous 2016/12/06 00:31:38 No.1186717
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Hello Rachel.
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Fur Non 2016/12/06 01:24:03 No.1186737
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>>1186717
Wouldn't doubt it.
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"The Gift" by Jay Naylor Furrynomous 2016/12/06 01:41:11 No.1186739
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>>1186737
Who else would it be? Anyway, cool, since I kinda like Rachel.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 03:17:31 No.1186794
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>>1186699
Aaaaand it just got worse.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 06:01:38 No.1186844
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>>1186717
>>1186737
>>1186739
Oh it's Rachel alright, Naylor confirmed it on his patreon.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 07:13:14 No.1186888
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>>1186739
>>1186794
Worse how? This is proofd Rach just needed a strong manly dog to put her on the place she always belonged, being indulged in hardcore petplay instead of indulging in drugs and crap off her own volition.

Yeah I cant say it with a straight face either. I never imagined she was pink, for some reason, though.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 07:41:18 No.1186926
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>>1186675

Art is kind of like beauty, its subjective. However things I consider - use of composition, clean line work, expressions/body language, use of color theory and ambient lighting, skill of background work, level of eroctism and a certain appeal in style.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 08:14:14 No.1187030
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>>1186660
You people nitpick his art to high degrees yet 90% of the first 2 pages on /c are not even 50% his quality and barely get any crittisizm at all.
Outside of one weab comic the best thing to compare i saw was Kadath, Fucking Kadath. If you people care so much about art take it to threads with noticable bad art. Like the majority of /c and /f. because Naylor rises high above the average quality art that's posted there and that's not even ment as a compliment towards Naylor.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 14:39:29 No.1187181
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>>1186926
beauty isn't really subjective though, there is actually science behind it.

"art" on the other hand is so subjective that it doesn't actually exist.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 16:14:11 No.1187298
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>>1187030
> You people nitpick his art to high degrees yet 90% of the first 2 pages on /c are not even 50% his quality and barely get any crittisizm at all.

That's probably because they don't care about those other comics, they care about Naylor's comics.

If I didn't give a shit about, or dislike something you know what I typically don't do? Tell it how to improve.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 18:04:18 No.1187403
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Im just here for the comments
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 18:33:28 No.1187410
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Wait, how is it Rachel? I thought it was confirmed that she died of a drug overdose or something. Or is this Naylor retconning shit like how he did for Sissy's husband actually being a cheater despite what Fisk said in OL?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 18:45:20 No.1187416
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>>1187410
She's already been in a comic or two since her death - yeah, it was retconned.
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' Anonymous 2016/12/06 19:11:11 No.1187422
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>>1187410
You idiot. Sissy's husband didn't cheat, he suggested an open-marriage just to get her to sleep with him more by making her think he was planning to sleep with someone else.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/06 20:21:15 No.1187437
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>>1186888
Because I was at least hoping for just a male focus, maybe some action with him and the 2 dogs. But no, it has to be the dumb pink bunny that Naylor brought back from the dead like some sort of Frankenstein's monster, instead of something with an original concept with a guy that enjoys both sexes.

Also, the dog characters themselves(then again what hasn't been) are not fun and enjoyable characters, but merely just more babble from the fucked-up mind of the artist.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 09:37:54 No.1187741
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>>1186445
Why is the lower-right panel communist?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 10:14:10 No.1187759
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>>1187741
It's actually Anarchism/Egoism.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 10:36:14 No.1187788
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>>1187759
I see. Same thing, then.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 12:18:10 No.1187826
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>>1187422
I take it you havent read Twice As Hot?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 12:36:19 No.1187832
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>>1187410
>Wait, how is it Rachel? I thought it was confirmed that she died of a drug overdose or something.

Naylor got his panties in a knot because people liked Rachel, despite her being the mouthpiece to show how a woman is not suppose to behave in his ideal society, so he killed her off.

Eventually he brought her back, most suspect, to more heavily rub in how a woman is there for a man, not vice versa.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 13:19:11 No.1187844
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>>1187832

>Naylor got his panties in a knot because people liked Rachel, despite her being the mouthpiece to show how a woman is not suppose to behave in his ideal society, so he killed her off.

I've seen people speculate that Naylor killed her off because people actually thought she was an interesting character, as opposed to the paper-thin fuckdolls he usually writes. In other words, he killed off Rachel because he accidentally made a character too interesting to his audience.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 15:57:14 No.1187891
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>>1187844
>In other words, he killed off Rachel because he accidentally made a character too interesting to his audience

I dunno, I don't know why so many people liked Rachel, maybe because she just unashamedly enjoyed having sex, which given the nature of smut you'd think was a plus.

I do remember Naylor gave curt, one word answers about her on his Live Journal before dimissing her as a one off, will not be seen again character, then drawing her pregnant with the kids of several clearly different fathers, before finally the drug overdose image. She's one of the most transparent examples of how Naylor uses the characters as mouthpieces - he wanted people to hate Rachel, when they didn't, he took out his frustrations on said character.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 17:32:49 No.1187920
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Ha whenever jay naylor put a comic out he get polemic and get even mroe and mroe famous... What jay naylor do best is targeting is comic to specific audience...the way teh page are aranged the little incestpsychological dram thinguy etc is his way to sell, not only it make contreversy but he can really please a aprt of his specific audience...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 17:49:42 No.1187922
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Just post the damn comic already.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 18:21:41 No.1187931
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>>1187922
Yes, let's travel into the future when Naylor has actually finished a page!
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 21:17:00 No.1187989
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>>1187920
>Hah! Jay is a genius, he can make nerds get angry on the internet!

Suuure, it's not like nerds will complain about anything anyway, just this specific comic is doing that... genius. Also let's pretend it takes a lot of effort to post on a forum. Sad times.

Anyway, calling it now before it turns out: dog lady fucks rabbit boy in the ass with a strap-on and dog boy fucks Rachel, with a bit of commanding the bunnies to screw each other. Because that fits Naylor's world view.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 21:25:49 No.1187990
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Seems to be the only solution with Naylor posts.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 23:31:25 No.1188027
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>>1187030

Don't get your panties in a twist. I just said Naylor is a mediocre artist when compared with some other noteable artists. And yes while I concede there is science behind what makes art or something beautiful,tho there is personal taste to it too.

I'm not saying Kadath's art doesn't leave something left to be desired. He is another mediocre artist but I do feel he has a better grip on anatomy and character design. I think his main fault is expressions/faces/heads. That whole chin issue. Otherwise he is far more popular than he probably deserves. His writing is a bit less cringey - but he seems to be a bit of a hipster/feminist slant to alot of his works.(Hilarious since Puzzle is a busty clutzy airhead stereotype that oh so hate.)


Though again, Kadath has been making porn comics for years and appealed to certain kinks. Incest,femdom, swinging - ect. He's actually quite similar to Naylor in that respect.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/07 23:40:45 No.1188029
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Frankl It's yawn because the "characters" are yawn inducing. They are cookie cutter. You literally could replace these dogs with any othe characters, say, the red pandas, and still get the exact same dynamic in the comic without skipping a beat. They are all the same voice, just with different color schemes. But it has sex and its just the scenes of a dick going into something that sales. So koodles to him for finding a formula to make money without even trying to be original.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/08 03:34:52 No.1188128
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>>1187990
Yeah, never read through one.
Walls of text and people debating the politics of porn, furry porn of all porns, FFS. Only reason I saw this was cuz of the image, haha.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/08 16:05:01 No.1188429
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>>1186170

You thought BD was fine, but OL is where you drew the line? REALLY?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 06:36:30 No.1188633
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>>1186170
>Why do so many people like his work now?
>His art, to me at least, is decent enough and I get that everyone has their fetishes.

Y'all just answered your own question there, mate. People are weird. We're furries, for fucks sake. For the vast majority of us, there's pretty much NO line we won't happily dance right over.

>He makes about $10 grand a month.

... And? Are we supposed to curtail our enjoyment of a certain thing because the creator is monetarily successful? We're all supposed to be a bunch of hipsters and stop liking things when they become popular and mainstream and "cool?" Naylor's been a name in the furry community for a long-ass time, and has pretty much ensured his place here with his strangeness, his controversial topics and views, and the overall drama that he seems to constantly dredge up. As a reporter might say, "There's no such thing as bad publicity." Even if you say his name in absolute spite and vitriol, you're STILL spreading his name. All of this is to say nothing of the Brand Loyalty paradigm. Naylor's been around for a long-ass time, most furs were introduced to the fandom by his work. My own personal segue into the fandom involved Better Days. Associations like that aren't easily forgotten.

All in all, I really don't get what the big issue is with most people. If you like his stuff, you like his stuff, and if you don't, you don't. Why everyone has to make such an insane deal out of all this is beyond me.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 06:58:12 No.1188635
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>>1188633
It's a kneejerk response. Fake outrage and anger. Fighting for the sake of fighting or to sate some sort of stupid inside joke. The comments become toxic, stupid and NOT about the art, but about how much derail can happen for someone's tacky idea that: stupid argument=entertainment.

It's shitty channer culture. No one actually has a problem with Naylor. It's just trendy to whine about anything he does or says. You don't have to agree with anything he believes in to like the comics or just fucking fap to them. But someone makes up a narrative about the artist and it devolves into whining about/derailing things into personal politics, a shit laden minefield.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 10:55:55 No.1188666
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>>1188635
>channer
It's called an imageboard, not a ``chan'', ledditor. Go back to your upvote/downvote safespace.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 12:53:10 No.1188682
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>>1188029
Nahnahanahanah, this incorrect statement, like totaly incorrect. It could be just you pulling a massive troll but hey... There is definitvly different characters, they may be teh same story thematic happening with differents charcters, the dude behind all those characters may be teh same for all thsoe charcter and may be confuse in his ideas time to times, but they are definitvly a lot of different charcters.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 15:12:56 No.1188729
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< people who dislike jaynaylor
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Furrynomous 2016/12/09 15:53:08 No.1188743
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>>1188729
You got it wrong. To greentext you use ``>'' rather than ``<''
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Furrynomous 2016/12/10 01:00:41 No.1188998
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>>1188743
It's okay, like most Naylor fans he's just trying to be le edgy hipster.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/10 11:58:33 No.1189150
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People talk shit about Jay Naylor but I know for a fact that most of his comics were the first ones to get posted after this site was rebooted.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/10 15:49:17 No.1189226
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>>1189150
And?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/11 14:33:06 No.1189477
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>>1189226

His comics are like Tila Tequila: She looks nice but I don't want to hear her talk about her crazy beliefs.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/14 11:38:09 No.1190620
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ALL ART IS SUBJECTIVE!
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 05:26:07 No.1191084
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 05:40:10 No.1191086
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>>1191084
I'm interested, was there once a Naylor thread that was civil?
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Ketaxis # MOD # 2016/12/15 09:47:08 No.1191146
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>>1191086
As much as you may not believe me, JN threads have almost always only got near what is actually uncivil. I can agree with some, I may disagree with others on what they have to say. But lets not confuse "uncivil" with "I don't like how people write" and "shit storm" with "people writing stuff I don't like reading".
But I can also assume standards for what "uncivil" is are much more strict here compared to other boards (this is a topic for /d/).

Anyway, keep it civil, thank you!

But will agree on how JN's "story" content is pretty much only there for the records. And it is a real shame for me, because outside some of the faces, I still really enjoy his art style. I only hope this comic is going to be something at least different. But a part of me shouts "Get ready for water sports!" and I can't help but prepare for disappointment. I hope I am wrong, I hope for something nice to fap to from JN, yet I try not to any more.
But this comic will be indeed yet another fetish fest.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 12:12:24 No.1191200
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>>1191146

>there is literally nothing wrong going on in this Naylor thread
>but I'm gonna throw my weight around anyway and tell people to do something that they were already doing

Edited at 2016/12/15 12:17:03
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 16:07:22 No.1191259
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>>1191084
I don't...
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Furrynomous 2016/12/15 22:05:25 No.1191338
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>>1191200
He was addressing someone who specifically said that it was uncivil.

> Person 1: This thread is uncivil and I don't remember a time when JN threads were ever civil

> Person 2: This is actually quite civil and I request people keep it that way.

> Person 3: THE AUDACITY OF #2!!!
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Furrynomous 2016/12/17 23:11:30 No.1192231
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There are two pages of his comic in this thread.

Two.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/18 04:26:13 No.1192393
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>>1192231
Go back to sesame street.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/18 16:34:14 No.1192588
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>>1192231
Well if the guy has only drawn 2 pages so far what are we supposed to do exactly?
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Furrynomous 2016/12/18 18:43:35 No.1192679
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>>1192588
Discuss the two pages and how we feel.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/22 06:26:34 No.1194040
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I come for the porn, I stay for the thread.
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Furrynomous 2016/12/22 19:13:21 No.1194271
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>>1192588
fap?
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Michael Saunders 2016/12/22 19:59:56 No.1194307
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>>1194271

There isn't much to fap to so far.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 08:58:03 No.1199037
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 08:58:05 No.1199038
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>>1199037
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 08:58:06 No.1199039
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>>1199037
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 08:58:08 No.1199041
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>>1199037
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 17:23:17 No.1199255
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Incest is like the one Naylor fetish I've actually gotten into
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Furrynomous 2017/01/02 17:36:08 No.1199263
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>>1199039

Is there anything else with them together or are they new?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 12:14:28 No.1200534
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 12:17:52 No.1200537
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 12:32:28 No.1200541
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>>1200537
Please tell me we weren't waiting a whole month just for TWO pages.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 12:46:33 No.1200543
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>>1200541
nah I just like fucking with the freeloaders
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 16:48:11 No.1200618
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>>1200543
The first sex scene is a herm, great...
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 17:32:51 No.1200633
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>>1200618
Funny thing is, Naylor goes out of his way to say herms don't exist in his universe.
Shemales do though.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 17:33:56 No.1200634
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 17:33:57 No.1200635
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>>1200634
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 17:33:58 No.1200636
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>>1200634
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 17:35:23 No.1200637
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>>1200635
>>1200618

See, shemale. No cunt.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 18:32:31 No.1200654
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You know, this one is starting out rather nice. Will this be the first comic in a while to have a nice story?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 19:12:43 No.1200674
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>>1200654
You know he's going to ruin it with his pseudo-intellectual mumbling.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/05 19:24:37 No.1200677
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>>1200674
You skip the first page or something?
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"The Gift" by Jay Naylor Furrynomous 2017/01/05 23:40:29 No.1200772
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Well, Rachel looks way better than in her last comic. Waaaaaay better.

>>1101117
>>1101118

Edited at 2017/01/05 23:41:30
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 00:40:33 No.1200786
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>>1200677
No, I figured I'd give him a sporting chance.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 03:18:48 No.1200825
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>>1200634
>>1200635
at least I can pretend she's not getting fucked by a herm in these pages
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 11:07:09 No.1200885
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I swear Naylor draws amazing bondage but he never really does anything with it. It's like buried under all sorts of fetishes I just don't understand.
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ModusPonens 2017/01/06 19:53:03 No.1201026
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So are these characters just into really heavy master/slave roleplay, or are they actually masters and slaves?

Why can't we have nice BDSM comics where the dom isn't mindfucking or manipulating the sub into existential oblivion?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 21:35:57 No.1201062
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>>1201026

Because it's less yummy that way.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 22:44:11 No.1201092
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>>1201026

You're wanting something like
>>1138723

And yea, it's a shame there aren't more like that.
I mean, I'm into power play, not malicious sadism.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 23:19:11 No.1201098
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>>1201092

I'd prefer a non-gay comic with BDSM please?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 23:41:21 No.1201104
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>>1201098
????
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Furrynomous 2017/01/06 23:54:45 No.1201107
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>>1201098
That is precisely what I linked.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/07 02:34:16 No.1201161
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>>1201098

You're looking at furry porn, something pretty fucking weird and obscure, and you balk at a chick wearing a plastic dick?

I mean you better turn away from internet porn now, as this shit changes your superficial preferences more than you'd imagine. Dicks are gonna be the least of your worries.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/07 04:26:05 No.1201174
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>>1200825
Shemalr, not a herm.
She has no pussy
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Furrynomous 2017/01/07 09:19:49 No.1201211
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>>1200637
>>1200636
but the one on page 8 could be a dude
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Furrynomous 2017/01/07 12:44:10 No.1201253
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>herm shit
>ever

into the fucking trash it goes.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/09 07:41:59 No.1202007
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OH god a single glimpse of a trans character? PURGE!
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 01:57:19 No.1202779
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>>1201253
Shemale not herm...
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 15:53:22 No.1203503
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>>1202007
Intersex != tranny
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Furrynomous 2017/01/11 21:16:12 No.1203633
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>>1186660
Naylor is the only artist drawing actual smut, though, it's not so much the quality, it's the content. Wolfy-nail got run out of the fandom for doing anything kinky, Naylor is the only quality kink artist left.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/13 18:21:41 No.1204637
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>>1203633

Wolfy-nail got run out of the fandom for doing anything kinky,

Buh? When did that happen? It looks like he still posts to his FA.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/14 03:29:47 No.1204800
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>>1203633

>Jay Naylor
>Quality
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Furrynomous 2017/01/14 11:33:18 No.1205070
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The problem I have with Jay Naylor is that his comics are boring. I with the characters would have a little more meaningful interaction with each other. Every time it's the same story. They just use each other as tools to wallow in their own depravity.
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Sabel!!2SHgbkG83s 2017/01/15 16:44:07 No.1206321
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>>1205070
Not to mention there's always the intrusion (if not outright bludgeoning) of his political values into every story.

Edit: As to Wolfy-Nail, I think it's more to do with him attempting to work on generating a new style to animate with at a faster pace, as well as getting back into playing WoW that's making him post less and less?

Edited at 2017/01/15 16:49:54
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Furrynomous 2017/01/16 06:20:09 No.1206581
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> They just use each other as tools to wallow in their own depravity.

That's because Naylor is literally channeling Ayn Rand in his comics. They're political/ethical statements he uses to justify himself being a dick.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/18 21:36:48 No.1207754
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>>1206581

Or alternatively you disagree with him and will find (or make) political statements in anything he writes. I don't agree with his politics either, but I don't accuse him of pushing a political agenda in a BDSM comic about bunnies and poodles fucking each other.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/27 18:46:38 No.1211590
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>>1207754

Then you clearly don't know Jay Naylor. He ham-fists his political views into, and I mean LITERALLY, anything and EVERYTHING he creates comics about coming only second to Chris Chan.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/27 19:13:09 No.1211597
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>>1211590

>Or alternatively you disagree with him and will find (or make) political statements in anything he writes. I don't agree with his politics either, but I don't accuse him of pushing a political agenda in a BDSM comic about bunnies and poodles fucking each other.

Again.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/28 10:54:29 No.1211915
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So, any more?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/29 06:29:34 No.1212344
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Could someone please explain it to me why every Naylor thread looks like this? You can literally just post one picture he has drawn and you guys go ape shit.....why?
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Furrynomous 2017/01/30 20:15:20 No.1213758
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>>1212344

His political opinions are not the popular ones in furry circles. He's a rare case of a conservative furry artist. He also included a lot of libertarian/randian stuff in his early comics and some people find him preachy. Now some people hate him so much they see things to criticize everywhere. Someone was complaining that he was "shoving" his ideology "down our throats" in a comic about poodles fucking rabbits. That's when I realized that this is all ridiculous. At some point people are being obnoxious and absurd. People are criticizing the way he draws bodies as "non-realistic." So he should draw them like real life half-dog, half-human people? There are plenty of furry artists that don't draw bodies "realistically" and they don't get that flack, only Naylor. I'm not saying you can't criticize his work, but the length some people go to is absurd.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/31 08:04:48 No.1213982
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>>1213758
All I have seen in particular comic was BDSM, Femdom, a shemale and some fucking....And people SERIOUSLY complain about Naylor's fucking POLITICAL VIEWS???
ON PORN????? What the fuck is wrong with you? Just fap alone in your room and be happy with it, or don't fucking click on a thread you know that you're going to hate!

Jesus Christ...
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Asmail Rutherford 2017/01/31 11:20:08 No.1214087
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>>1213982
Everyone has a right to express his opinion, and frankly, this is - sometimes - interesting. Unlike other threads, where are people constantly cursing and super-agressive towards each other. On the other hand, you have a point, this is kind of ridiculous. But don't let yourself get pissed by it, it's not worth spending energy on that. It may not be easy, but if you don't want to enter discussion, it's best for you to just ignore it.

I can separate both activities - when I come to fap, I fap. When I come to think, I read it again, more thoroughly, and then I can discuss it with other people.

To conclude it, there's a reflection of some ideology in everything people create; twice as much in everything artists create. And we are free to discuss, interpret, agree/disagree with it and so on. No matter if it's porn - nothing should be excluded from this process. And that's just fine.
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Furrynomous 2017/01/31 18:47:50 No.1214298
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>>1213982

Maybe you're confused. I was saying that the people being over-critical were being ridiculous. I don't care what his views are, I just came for the porn.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/04 14:58:34 No.1216352
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>>1211590

Then you clearly don't know Jay Naylor. He ham-fists his political views into, and I mean LITERALLY, anything and EVERYTHING he creates comics about coming only second to Chris Chan.

Again, also.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/06 20:02:36 No.1217438
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nothing new?
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 06:43:06 No.1217625
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>>1217438
just be patient. there'll be new stuff to bitch about soon enough.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 11:14:55 No.1217673
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 11:14:56 No.1217674
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>>1217673
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 11:38:05 No.1217681
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 19:02:07 No.1217808
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boomps
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 19:34:47 No.1217823
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wtf give me more you bastard
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Furrynomous 2017/02/07 22:11:23 No.1217871
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>>1217823

ask nicely
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Furrynomous 2017/02/08 01:11:30 No.1217899
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Please
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>>1217971
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>>1217971
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Furrynomous 2017/02/08 06:44:54 No.1217974
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>>1217971
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anon 2017/02/08 09:22:03 No.1217992
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where is Jay naylor posting or selling this comic?
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Patreon Furrynomous 2017/02/09 16:05:03 No.1218613
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>>1217992
only place you can get his comics is to pledge at
https://www.patreon.com/jaynaylor
He releases each month's work on the 5th. He's begun to include .zip files of older work but he only does 6 or so new pages each month. So one comic can take several months to complete.
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peace & quiet Furrynomous 2017/02/13 22:38:17 No.1220842
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I might be jinxing it but I think this thread being moved off the main comic index was the best thing that could have happened.

Usually there's a whole new round of bitchy complaints against Naylor to follow the new pages.

The minuscule bit of effort necessary to find the thread seems to be keeping the troglodytes away.
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Furrynomous 2017/02/14 07:39:25 No.1221010
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>>1220842
Are you implying that those fine arts critiques are easily shot down by the sight of a mighty Penis on a chick?
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peace & quiet Furrynomous 2017/02/14 07:55:58 No.1221018
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>>1221010

I'm saying that many visitors to this site don't go beyond the main comic index.

While I think moving this thread was silly (because it's a comic first & the shemale character is NOT the focus of the story) it's apparently had the effect of weeding out the bitchers & moaners
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Furrynomous 2017/03/05 08:54:35 No.1231090
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updates?
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Furrynomous 2017/03/06 22:24:57 No.1231951
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Furrynomous 2017/03/06 22:24:58 No.1231952
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>>1231951
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Furrynomous 2017/03/06 22:25:00 No.1231953
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>>1231951
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Furrynomous 2017/03/07 19:18:02 No.1232413
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Oh for god's sake Jay, that's it!? A whole freakin' comic just for a touch and squirt? Glad I didn't pay for this.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/08 07:59:09 No.1232668
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Furrynomous 2017/03/09 03:08:51 No.1233026
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>>1200633
> Naylor goes out of his way to say herms don't exist in his universe

I wake up everyday and thank god that it stays that way.

herms are gross and werid

shemales on the other hand...
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Furrynomous 2017/03/10 13:06:20 No.1233555
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>>1233026
for all intents and purposes they effectively the same thing.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/10 17:30:54 No.1233622
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>>1233555
Depending on the situation, when a herm is on the receiving they have more options.. but when given yea.. essentially the same as a shemale
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Furrynomous 2017/03/13 08:11:11 No.1234691
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Furrynomous 2017/03/13 22:38:43 No.1235096
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>>1234691
Once more ,this girl has more character development than anyone else Naylor has ever written.

From school slut to unhappily married to druggie to jail to BDSM dungeon pet, a pure hedonistic princess in her quest to the next fix. Always getting what she wants, and regretting it.

Until now. If Naylor ever wanted to write something about how women are only happy under a dominant dick's heel (like he did with the cottonwine nonsense), over a few years, he finally wrote a trajectory that made sense with a character he never liked.
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Furrynomous 2017/03/18 00:54:06 No.1236993
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more than 'end' it should say 'to be continued' because it's ovbious that the story wil continue... seeing how the first pages was build up, that end was so sudden, i was expecting a bit more to continue the story. just an opinion without shitting on the author like everybody else do (since i know a little about him), not my kind of story, but was expecting a more of a better conclusion, like, what happens with the girl after enduring this?
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Furrynomous 2017/10/16 15:47:26 No.1334534
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>>1186077

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